Personal story: I was at a taping of TJW at CBS. Now usually it takes 3 hours to do three shows. On this one taping, the taping of ONE EPISODE started at 7pm and we were released at 11pm. And they had not finished the episode. Reason: the computer that controlled the wheels kept freezing. Taking a peek it was a Commodore (God bless'em) Amiga. Any want of me owning that POC was dashed that day.
How about _Snoop Dogg Presents The Joker's Wild_ wherein the bonus round winning $10,000 on the big wheel gout it bumped up to $25,000 in the 1st season and $50,000 in the 2nd and 3rd season. In the 1st season, Jeannie Mai was a co-host in a similar fashion to Vanna White on _Wheel of Fortune_ but was not in the 2nd or 3rd season, also the 1st and 2nd seasons were on TBS, and the 3rd season moved to TNT. I think the reason that game show was canceled, was that unlike the original and even the 1990s revival of it, Snoop Dogg's version only appealed to a certain demographic with the way he worded the questions, and even in the bonus round where you would face the devil, the amounts ranged from $300 up to $2,000, including an amount of $420, Getting three Jokers in the bonus round meant an automatic win, although it never happened on Snoop Dogg's version. Compared to the original and 1990's revival version that appealed more to everyone or in the sense that it was more family-friendly, also Snoop Dogg's version was more themed after a casino with his version of the big board resembling a giant jackpot slot machine.
Another reason that may have caused the Joker's Wild (and other new syndicated shows) to be cancelled that year is that many stations interrupted programming for coverage of the 1991 Gulf War (which started around mid-January).
Glad to see someone call out the fact that you could win more in the front game than on the match-three bonus game. I think if they had kept the category format with two players racing to $1,000 then playing the bonus, that would have been a great program.
Basically, here's how I could see TJW working: Round 1 starts w/ a $100 toss-up for 1st spin, after which categories are announced. Spin values are $50/100/200 (or possibly double to stay w/ the times. One question per spin, just like the classic show; right answer pays out and keeps control, miss and your rivals can jump in and steal. Top 2 scores when someone hits $1,000 advance to round 2. Jokers can be used off the board, just like the classic show, and a right answer on 3 Jokers automatically wins the round. Round 2 plays more like the classic format: taking even turns racing to $2,500. Winner of Round 1 chooses turn order. Spin values double ($100/200/400). If P1 reaches $2500 first, P2 gets one more spin to tie or beat them. Along the way, 1st Natural Triple of the day in either round wins a bonus prize. Bonus round: First, 60 sec. of straight trivia. Each right answer is worth $500 & 1 spin at the slots (you get 1 spin for free). Prizes on the slots range from $3k-15k, including $5k-15k cash. Once a prize is matched (w/ or w/out Jokers), the player may choose to refuse it and take any spins they still have (fixing a broken flaw). If they do that, whatever they wind up with (even if it's the same prize, or even nothing), they're stuck with it. Spin 3 Jokers and you win the Jackpot of $20k plus $1k each game it's not won.
Pat Finn just wasn't there. Did a little better on Shop Til You Drop though. They should've used an established announcer, putting an LA DJ like Ed McKay in there gave the rest of the nation an impression that it was just a "thrown together" game show like it was already earmarked for 13 week cancellation. Get Bob Hilton if you cant get Charlie O'donnel to come back..
Noteworthy as well is that Jim Peck hosted the '70s/'80s version of the show to fill in for Jack Barry on an episode or two which I've seen on CZcams. He does a decent job as well as a fill in.
Jim was an excellent guest host. He actually was going to take over around ‘84 so Jack could retire, but May of that year Jack Barry would tragically died due to a heart attack. Dan “F’ckin” Enright would forgo Jack’s wishes and gave it to Bill Cullen for the last 2 seasons of TJW
When I came upon this video, I was a little bit concerned about your opinion; now I understand perfectly. Pat Finn has really come a long way as a host. However, IMO: 1. the "game of definitions" format was still pretty much inferior despite its good intentions, 2. the endgame could have really used the Devil, and 3. the theme was annoying and really had me clamoring for a remixed version of "The Savers".
Actually, I do prefer this end game...it's more Vegas like, plus the slot machine used there was more realistic to the ones in Vegas (with the handle on the machine itself). I say the game is more Vegas-like, because you gotta match 3 to win.
I hope someone posts the pilot to this version bc i read it was slightly different. I think the first scoring format was used but the last slot had time limits n a joker instead of dollar amounts n a joker. Plus the bonus round had bigger prizes
I feel like a combination of classic Joker's Wild and the faster-paced format in the pilot for this version that Wink Martindale released could make for an interesting way to update the game without going too far afield as this version ended up doing. The biggest issue in my opinion is the definition format, if you did something with the traditional category-and-trivia-based material instead (as this version's second format came close to doing but stuck to definitions) it might work.
To be honest, the short lived 1990 revival of “The Joker’s Wild” looks decent than “Tic-Tac Dough ‘90”. The company that distributed this show was Orbis Communications, the same company that brought you the “Spiral Zone”. The show used to be on NBC during the overnight block of game shows song with “Tic-Tac Dough” which was at 2:30AM, but this came on at 2AM back in 1991 since no one watches this show while they were sleeping, or setting the timer on a VCR before going to bed so that it will automatically record this episode without missing a single show.
In Los Angeles, TTD '90 and TJW '90 was on KCOP...they very station where the previous versions were taped several years earlier!!! For me, they were on WKRG (Mobile, Ala.), Anchorage and Fairbanks, AK would have to wait for the USA Network reruns years later; but here in Atlanta: WAGA had Joker's at 9:00 am (opposite The Challengers on WXIA) followed by Trump Card, while Tic Tac ended up on WSB...at 2:00 in the morning!!!
WNBC-TV (channel 4) in NYC carried this show at 2AM and “Tic-Tac Dough ‘90” at 2:30AM which were during the overnight block and it was bad. WCBS-TV (channel 2) did that with “Wipeout” at 2:30AM back in 1988 when it was during the overnights.
Honestly I’m partial to the original version of TJW. Thankfully Snoop’s version hearkens closer to the original version... and the less said about Pat Finn, the better IMHO. I still can’t watch Shop Till You Drop, and I just began rewatching Supermarket Sweep, which was it’s sister show on Pax... which I just thought STYD was purely time filler for the REAL game of the two: Supermarket Sweep.
It didn't help that WCBS in New York had TJW on Saturday nights around 2AM. Aside from a few shows that did make it in a daytime slot (Rafferty's Card Sharks), New York was rather fickle in finding decent time slots for syndicated games in the late 80s -- for example, WCBS put Peter Tomarken's Wipeout on around 3AM (or later), Headline Chasers was on WABC around 1:30AM, even TTD'90 got relegated to a later slot on WNBC.
Having a weatherman become a game show host was kind of en vogue ever since Pat Sajak made the transition a few years prior. Kevin O'Connell was doing weather for KNBC before he got the nod on "Go". Pat was doing weather in Arizona and San Francisco (as well as some light chat shows) prior to getting the nod to host "Joker".
Another reason why Jim Peck may not have been selected was because he was busy working on "Divorce Court" at the time. As for regular game show work, he didn't do too much after "Three's a Crowd", although in the early 80s he did host an unsold pilot called "The Buck Stops Here". I believe I came across it on CZcams once, but the audio on it was kind of low.
I like Pat; He has a very down to earth personality and genuinely cares about his contestants and wants them to do well. His youthful presence is also welcome here and on Shop til you Drop.
For some people, by the time they saw the revival of the show, it was likely when they had it in reruns on the USA network. That's where I first remember seeing it. When I saw it, I had no idea what it was (I was still a little kid at the time, so I didn't know better), but it still looked good to me. It will be interesting to see what your "Tic Tac Dough" review will be like. For that will you be comparing all three incarnations (including the 50s version)? Just wondering.
@@brycelandon6387 I love the joker's wild, snoop is very funny, it does a very stylish hip hop rap feel it, cool, this and hip hop squares made game shows cool.
Snoop Dogg's TJW revival is a Snoop Dogg infomerical disguised as a game show. I watched one episode, and I swear I will never watch another again. It's all about how much you know about Snoop's life and career and weed.
I read somewhere "TJW" was revived by TBS and hosted by Snoop Doggy Dog, but I simply am not interested in watching a classic game show hosted by a rapper. Not missing a thing.
The format of the 1972-1986 TJW was much simpler to follow than the convoluted format of TJW-90. I only saw one episode of this on USA as a 7-year-old with chickenpox and never thought about it again until many years later. In my opinion, TJW-90 was way worse than Tic-Tac-Dough 1990. Yeah, I said it. I'd take TTD-90 over TJW-90 any day. The only good thing about TJW-90 was Pat Finn and his style of hosting; he could host a bad show like TJW-90 and make it look better than it actually was.
No, the Snoop Dogg version is bad. The TBS version is basically an infomercial for Snoop Dogg and the things he's into disguised as a game show. To be fair, the TBS version streamlines the game play and prevents games from rolling over into the next episode like they did in the 70s and 80s, but Snoop Dogg's hosting, as well as the subject matter for the questions (which is essentially, how much do you know about Snoop Dogg?) is a big turn-off for me. Both the Pat Finn and Snoop Dogg versions of TJW suck. By contrast, Tic-Tac-Dough 1990 was a way better show than people give it credit for.
Never saw the Snoop Dogg one. I remember the promo, but I never saw the show. The show is on TBS right now, but you can see the episodes on CZcams. The Snoop Dogg's version is kinda decent, and it isn't as bad as the previous versions of the "Joker's Wild".
Holy pop off, Batman! That's a rare moment with him. Yeah the thing with Pat is when he's hosting, he has a tempo to keep the show moving. Aside from that clip, he is actually a really nice fellow.
Pretty sure it was just an act. Dee Bradley Baker is a showman, and Pat likely knew that, so that was just part of the bit. Then again, I could be wrong since he does shout pretty loud at him. Still found it funny all things considered... lol.
TJW 90 is awesome. If the set didn't look like some Chuck E Cheese bullshit, they didn't stress the fact it was supposed to be a reboot & called it something else....well...it probably would've still got cancelled....but at least we would remember it more like The Challengers (a great game that didn't get a fair shake).
I usually agree with your thoughts, but not this one. I hated this show. The set looked like Chuck E. Cheese. The music sounded like a bad kids show theme. The definition format was hard to follow. The gameplay was slow. Pat Finn is one of the most overrated game show hosts out there. Just because he hosted a cheap cable game show for many years and a local lottery show doesn't make you a great game show host. Sorry. He's too stiff, fake and robotic. The prize budget was cheap. About the only thing I liked was the joker jackpot, which was worth a good amount of money and tough to win. ABC has done a fantastic job of rebooting old game shows for modern times with solid results and this one could succeed if they kept the original rules with a higher prize budget.
The reason they got the 90s bonus game right, IMO (and I have said this time and time again), is because it's more Vegas-like (even the machine itself was more Vegas-like, with the handle on the *side*): Match 3 in a row, that prize is yours. Most machines in Vegas go by this rule anyway.
You also forgot to mention that in earlier shows, in the front game: 3 jokers were an automatic win, and a triple was worth $150. Plus, in the bonus game: First was the prize wheels, and you had 2 spins: You spun and got 3 prizes, if you liked them, you could take them, or if not, spin a second time, but you had to take the second set of prizes. Then later, we had Jokers and Devils--3 jokers won a prize, a Devil lost it all. Plus, in the category format of the 90's game--for jokers, you could not go off the board...you had to use categories on the Wheels. Plus...in the end game, the individual jokers could NOT be frozen...so to get the jackpot, you had to get the jokers all in one spin.
There were two pilots hosted by Allen Ludden in 1968 and 1969. The first pilot had categories represented by celebrities who would read the questions (which I felt was kinda awkward, and it seemed like an amateur idea that I would come up with; probably because I am use to the format of the Jack Barry/Bill Cullen version) while the second didn't. In both versions, you can choose to pass the question if you didn't think you knew the answer. Also, questions were worth points instead of dollars, with each question being worth 1 point for a single, 2 for double, and 3 for triple. Jokers were of course wild as always. In addition, instead of answering one question on a single, triple. or double; you could answer more than one question on a spin (for instance, say I spun like this: Sports-Sports-Cooking. Each question would be worth two points in this case. I could choose to answer two questions for sports to try to score 4 points. I could also choose to answer Cooking in addition to that, which means I could score 6 points in all). You could also alternatively win by getting 3 jokers and getting the corresponding question correct. Winning the main game gets you $250. There was also a sort of bonus round with prize wheels where you can spin up to 3 times to try to get prizes. In all honesty, as much as Allen Ludden is a legend, I personally prefer the Jack Barry/Bill Cullen version with scoring money instead of points. Scoring points fit more of Allen Ludden's style since he's hosted game shows that rely on scoring points more than cash (i.e. Password).
Personal story: I was at a taping of TJW at CBS. Now usually it takes 3 hours to do three shows. On this one taping, the taping of ONE EPISODE started at 7pm and we were released at 11pm. And they had not finished the episode. Reason: the computer that controlled the wheels kept freezing. Taking a peek it was a Commodore (God bless'em) Amiga. Any want of me owning that POC was dashed that day.
Oh wow.
How about _Snoop Dogg Presents The Joker's Wild_ wherein the bonus round winning $10,000 on the big wheel gout it bumped up to $25,000 in the 1st season and $50,000 in the 2nd and 3rd season. In the 1st season, Jeannie Mai was a co-host in a similar fashion to Vanna White on _Wheel of Fortune_ but was not in the 2nd or 3rd season, also the 1st and 2nd seasons were on TBS, and the 3rd season moved to TNT. I think the reason that game show was canceled, was that unlike the original and even the 1990s revival of it, Snoop Dogg's version only appealed to a certain demographic with the way he worded the questions, and even in the bonus round where you would face the devil, the amounts ranged from $300 up to $2,000, including an amount of $420, Getting three Jokers in the bonus round meant an automatic win, although it never happened on Snoop Dogg's version. Compared to the original and 1990's revival version that appealed more to everyone or in the sense that it was more family-friendly, also Snoop Dogg's version was more themed after a casino with his version of the big board resembling a giant jackpot slot machine.
The Snoop’s Joker’s Wild was really good, even though it had a more adult-theme show
Another reason that may have caused the Joker's Wild (and other new syndicated shows) to be cancelled that year is that many stations interrupted programming for coverage of the 1991 Gulf War (which started around mid-January).
Here in Nashville, it was only run on weekend afternoons
"And the war got good ratings! Well, we like war! We like war because _we're good at it!_ " - George Carlin
I actually liked this version's theme song.
Watched it on USA cable. Didn’t know about or watch the 70’s 80’s version until Game Show Network in 1994-95
Snoop Dogg Presents: The Joker's Wild > The Joker's Wild 90
The 2017 version is the best version since the Jack Barry/Bill Cullen eras.
Glad to see someone call out the fact that you could win more in the front game than on the match-three bonus game. I think if they had kept the category format with two players racing to $1,000 then playing the bonus, that would have been a great program.
11:03 I regularly watched that run of Shop when it was new but don't remember him snapping like that.
Basically, here's how I could see TJW working:
Round 1 starts w/ a $100 toss-up for 1st spin, after which categories are announced. Spin values are $50/100/200 (or possibly double to stay w/ the times. One question per spin, just like the classic show; right answer pays out and keeps control, miss and your rivals can jump in and steal. Top 2 scores when someone hits $1,000 advance to round 2. Jokers can be used off the board, just like the classic show, and a right answer on 3 Jokers automatically wins the round.
Round 2 plays more like the classic format: taking even turns racing to $2,500. Winner of Round 1 chooses turn order. Spin values double ($100/200/400). If P1 reaches $2500 first, P2 gets one more spin to tie or beat them.
Along the way, 1st Natural Triple of the day in either round wins a bonus prize.
Bonus round: First, 60 sec. of straight trivia. Each right answer is worth $500 & 1 spin at the slots (you get 1 spin for free). Prizes on the slots range from $3k-15k, including $5k-15k cash. Once a prize is matched (w/ or w/out Jokers), the player may choose to refuse it and take any spins they still have (fixing a broken flaw). If they do that, whatever they wind up with (even if it's the same prize, or even nothing), they're stuck with it. Spin 3 Jokers and you win the Jackpot of $20k plus $1k each game it's not won.
In the second base game format - should have been single $50 - double $100 - triple $150.
Pat Finn just wasn't there. Did a little better on Shop Til You Drop though. They should've used an established announcer, putting an LA DJ like Ed McKay in there gave the rest of the nation an impression that it was just a "thrown together" game show like it was already earmarked for 13 week cancellation. Get Bob Hilton if you cant get Charlie O'donnel to come back..
I actually like pat finn as host.
Or even Johnny Gilbert.
What's next? Jaleel White hosting a revival of Tic Tac Dough? (Actually, that _would_ be awesome!)
Yeah and it'd end up on TBS also or on the competitor channel Comedy Central.
@@cutemimi25 and if Jaleel White fouled up on asking a question, he can say “Did I do that?”
Noteworthy as well is that Jim Peck hosted the '70s/'80s version of the show to fill in for Jack Barry on an episode or two which I've seen on CZcams. He does a decent job as well as a fill in.
Jim was an excellent guest host. He actually was going to take over around ‘84 so Jack could retire, but May of that year Jack Barry would tragically died due to a heart attack. Dan “F’ckin” Enright would forgo Jack’s wishes and gave it to Bill Cullen for the last 2 seasons of TJW
Snoop Dogg's version has made this one watchable again.
There's one good thing I enjoyed about it. Even though it's hard to see, there is a plaque on the slot machine honoring Jack Barry
When I came upon this video, I was a little bit concerned about your opinion; now I understand perfectly. Pat Finn has really come a long way as a host. However, IMO:
1. the "game of definitions" format was still pretty much inferior despite its good intentions,
2. the endgame could have really used the Devil, and
3. the theme was annoying and really had me clamoring for a remixed version of "The Savers".
Actually, I do prefer this end game...it's more Vegas like, plus the slot machine used there was more realistic to the ones in Vegas (with the handle on the machine itself). I say the game is more Vegas-like, because you gotta match 3 to win.
I hope someone posts the pilot to this version bc i read it was slightly different. I think the first scoring format was used but the last slot had time limits n a joker instead of dollar amounts n a joker. Plus the bonus round had bigger prizes
I feel like a combination of classic Joker's Wild and the faster-paced format in the pilot for this version that Wink Martindale released could make for an interesting way to update the game without going too far afield as this version ended up doing. The biggest issue in my opinion is the definition format, if you did something with the traditional category-and-trivia-based material instead (as this version's second format came close to doing but stuck to definitions) it might work.
It's a good remake IMO, too.
To be honest, the short lived 1990 revival of “The Joker’s Wild” looks decent than “Tic-Tac Dough ‘90”. The company that distributed this show was Orbis Communications, the same company that brought you the “Spiral Zone”. The show used to be on NBC during the overnight block of game shows song with “Tic-Tac Dough” which was at 2:30AM, but this came on at 2AM back in 1991 since no one watches this show while they were sleeping, or setting the timer on a VCR before going to bed so that it will automatically record this episode without missing a single show.
In Los Angeles, TTD '90 and TJW '90 was on KCOP...they very station where the previous versions were taped several years earlier!!!
For me, they were on WKRG (Mobile, Ala.), Anchorage and Fairbanks, AK would have to wait for the USA Network reruns years later; but here in Atlanta: WAGA had Joker's at 9:00 am (opposite The Challengers on WXIA) followed by Trump Card, while Tic Tac ended up on WSB...at 2:00 in the morning!!!
WNBC-TV (channel 4) in NYC carried this show at 2AM and “Tic-Tac Dough ‘90” at 2:30AM which were during the overnight block and it was bad. WCBS-TV (channel 2) did that with “Wipeout” at 2:30AM back in 1988 when it was during the overnights.
Can you get a copy that aired 2/19/1985 and 2/11/1986 and 3/3/1987
Honestly I’m partial to the original version of TJW. Thankfully Snoop’s version hearkens closer to the original version... and the less said about Pat Finn, the better IMHO. I still can’t watch Shop Till You Drop, and I just began rewatching Supermarket Sweep, which was it’s sister show on Pax... which I just thought STYD was purely time filler for the REAL game of the two: Supermarket Sweep.
I disagree with you, although I gave it thumbs down, I liked pat finn as host of the show.
It didn't help that WCBS in New York had TJW on Saturday nights around 2AM. Aside from a few shows that did make it in a daytime slot (Rafferty's Card Sharks), New York was rather fickle in finding decent time slots for syndicated games in the late 80s -- for example, WCBS put Peter Tomarken's Wipeout on around 3AM (or later), Headline Chasers was on WABC around 1:30AM, even TTD'90 got relegated to a later slot on WNBC.
When I was in New York City in 1989, I saw "Triple Threat" on a Sunday afternoon one time.
I'm rather curious as to why Pat Finn was chosen as the host instead of Jim Peck.
Having a weatherman become a game show host was kind of en vogue ever since Pat Sajak made the transition a few years prior. Kevin O'Connell was doing weather for KNBC before he got the nod on "Go". Pat was doing weather in Arizona and San Francisco (as well as some light chat shows) prior to getting the nod to host "Joker".
Another reason why Jim Peck may not have been selected was because he was busy working on "Divorce Court" at the time. As for regular game show work, he didn't do too much after "Three's a Crowd", although in the early 80s he did host an unsold pilot called "The Buck Stops Here". I believe I came across it on CZcams once, but the audio on it was kind of low.
I like Pat; He has a very down to earth personality and genuinely cares about his contestants and wants them to do well. His youthful presence is also welcome here and on Shop til you Drop.
This version is good. Pat Finn is far better than pat bullard.
Mrf Just about anyone is better than Pat BULLard. He’s a wooden plank.
For some people, by the time they saw the revival of the show, it was likely when they had it in reruns on the USA network. That's where I first remember seeing it. When I saw it, I had no idea what it was (I was still a little kid at the time, so I didn't know better), but it still looked good to me. It will be interesting to see what your "Tic Tac Dough" review will be like. For that will you be comparing all three incarnations (including the 50s version)? Just wondering.
Just the Wink Martindale/Jim Caldwell version.
isnt this show rumored to be coming back with -gag- snoop dogg as host?
Yup, in late October. Looks to be pretty good.
Unfortunately, you've got to know a lot about Snoop, weed, and gangsta culture in order to win.
Pretty much. The TBS version of TJW is a Snoop Dogg infomercial disguised as a game show.
@@brycelandon6387 I love the joker's wild, snoop is very funny, it does a very stylish hip hop rap feel it, cool, this and hip hop squares made game shows cool.
I thought the show was alright. It could have been better, but it could have been a whole lot worse.
I agree. It's neither all that great nor all that bad - it's pretty much an average, middle-of-the-road 90s game show.
@@illustriousrocket4476 it's a hell of a lot better than that horrendous tic tac dough 90 nor card sharks 2001.
What are your thoughts on the current Joker's Wild with Snoop Dogg?
Absolutely loved it!
Looks like we agree, I think it's a good throwback to the original Joker's Wild with some twists.
Snoop Dogg's TJW revival is a Snoop Dogg infomerical disguised as a game show. I watched one episode, and I swear I will never watch another again. It's all about how much you know about Snoop's life and career and weed.
What's next? Andrew dice clay hosting love connection?
Snoop's version of the TJW is the bugout!!
I read somewhere "TJW" was revived by TBS and hosted by Snoop Doggy Dog, but I simply am not interested in watching a classic
game show hosted by a rapper. Not missing a thing.
Armory Brunot,Jr. But to hear him say “$420 - My favorite number” is timeless.
Not as cool as original host Jack Barry saying, "Baseball...Scientists..and a joker!" Or, "$100.. $75...devil!"
I saw the 90's vision on the USA network when I was a kid and it's cool.😀👍
The format of the 1972-1986 TJW was much simpler to follow than the convoluted format of TJW-90. I only saw one episode of this on USA as a 7-year-old with chickenpox and never thought about it again until many years later. In my opinion, TJW-90 was way worse than Tic-Tac-Dough 1990. Yeah, I said it. I'd take TTD-90 over TJW-90 any day.
The only good thing about TJW-90 was Pat Finn and his style of hosting; he could host a bad show like TJW-90 and make it look better than it actually was.
The TBS /Snoop Dogg version is way better than this
No, the Snoop Dogg version is bad. The TBS version is basically an infomercial for Snoop Dogg and the things he's into disguised as a game show. To be fair, the TBS version streamlines the game play and prevents games from rolling over into the next episode like they did in the 70s and 80s, but Snoop Dogg's hosting, as well as the subject matter for the questions (which is essentially, how much do you know about Snoop Dogg?) is a big turn-off for me.
Both the Pat Finn and Snoop Dogg versions of TJW suck. By contrast, Tic-Tac-Dough 1990 was a way better show than people give it credit for.
Never saw the Snoop Dogg one. I remember the promo, but I never saw the show. The show is on TBS right now, but you can see the episodes on CZcams. The Snoop Dogg's version is kinda decent, and it isn't as bad as the previous versions of the "Joker's Wild".
It just simply didn't do justice to the original!
Damn Pat was Pissed!! Goes to show ya that Granny Dee is an annoying character.
He makes up with him as Olmec!
Holy pop off, Batman! That's a rare moment with him. Yeah the thing with Pat is when he's hosting, he has a tempo to keep the show moving. Aside from that clip, he is actually a really nice fellow.
Pretty sure it was just an act. Dee Bradley Baker is a showman, and Pat likely knew that, so that was just part of the bit.
Then again, I could be wrong since he does shout pretty loud at him. Still found it funny all things considered... lol.
I wonder if he would have had that same tone if he was talking to the Gravemind?
TJW 90 is awesome. If the set didn't look like some Chuck E Cheese bullshit, they didn't stress the fact it was supposed to be a reboot & called it something else....well...it probably would've still got cancelled....but at least we would remember it more like The Challengers (a great game that didn't get a fair shake).
I usually agree with your thoughts, but not this one. I hated this show. The set looked like Chuck E. Cheese. The music sounded like a bad kids show theme. The definition format was hard to follow. The gameplay was slow. Pat Finn is one of the most overrated game show hosts out there. Just because he hosted a cheap cable game show for many years and a local lottery show doesn't make you a great game show host. Sorry. He's too stiff, fake and robotic. The prize budget was cheap. About the only thing I liked was the joker jackpot, which was worth a good amount of money and tough to win. ABC has done a fantastic job of rebooting old game shows for modern times with solid results and this one could succeed if they kept the original rules with a higher prize budget.
I disagree with you
The reason they got the 90s bonus game right, IMO (and I have said this time and time again), is because it's more Vegas-like (even the machine itself was more Vegas-like, with the handle on the *side*): Match 3 in a row, that prize is yours. Most machines in Vegas go by this rule anyway.
You also forgot to mention that in earlier shows, in the front game: 3 jokers were an automatic win, and a triple was worth $150.
Plus, in the bonus game: First was the prize wheels, and you had 2 spins: You spun and got 3 prizes, if you liked them, you could take them, or if not, spin a second time, but you had to take the second set of prizes.
Then later, we had Jokers and Devils--3 jokers won a prize, a Devil lost it all.
Plus, in the category format of the 90's game--for jokers, you could not go off the board...you had to use categories on the Wheels. Plus...in the end game, the individual jokers could NOT be frozen...so to get the jackpot, you had to get the jokers all in one spin.
That's why I said that the end game had a lot of variants, but the last one is what most people remember.
There were two pilots hosted by Allen Ludden in 1968 and 1969. The first pilot had categories represented by celebrities who would read the questions (which I felt was kinda awkward, and it seemed like an amateur idea that I would come up with; probably because I am use to the format of the Jack Barry/Bill Cullen version) while the second didn't. In both versions, you can choose to pass the question if you didn't think you knew the answer. Also, questions were worth points instead of dollars, with each question being worth 1 point for a single, 2 for double, and 3 for triple. Jokers were of course wild as always. In addition, instead of answering one question on a single, triple. or double; you could answer more than one question on a spin (for instance, say I spun like this: Sports-Sports-Cooking. Each question would be worth two points in this case. I could choose to answer two questions for sports to try to score 4 points. I could also choose to answer Cooking in addition to that, which means I could score 6 points in all). You could also alternatively win by getting 3 jokers and getting the corresponding question correct. Winning the main game gets you $250. There was also a sort of bonus round with prize wheels where you can spin up to 3 times to try to get prizes.
In all honesty, as much as Allen Ludden is a legend, I personally prefer the Jack Barry/Bill Cullen version with scoring money instead of points. Scoring points fit more of Allen Ludden's style since he's hosted game shows that rely on scoring points more than cash (i.e. Password).