I know its scary for the guests but honestly must have been terrifying for the crew too, that is what they call home for sometimes up to a year at a time. All their belongings and everything. They are humans too and often guests forget this
I think guests realize that BUT the crew is responsible for the safety of the guests lives, so when the crew is not properly trained I think they deserve a pretty good dose of hostility. Honestly, wouldn't you be mad if you pulled a life preserver out of a closet and discovered they were only for decoration? How is that any different from a crew member jumping overboard and leaving passengers to fend for themselves? I'm not suggesting that happened here. I'm just saying there is a responsibility that goes along with the job.
@@petetube99 NO. They are NOT just employees. They are crew of a ship and that that gives them a great deal of responsibility. Sure, LEGAL responsibility lies with the owner and operators. But the crew has an obligation to know emergency procedures and carry them out.
@@Nash1a no unless they are maritime crew they are only trained in minimum stcw required, and have no idea about what it means to work at sea. Complaining about non maritime crew is silly, what do you expect they get paid peanuts, are musicians chefs etc not mariners. If you want to change it write to the cruise companies and stop complaining about people who make due with what they have.
@@ermining1 Then I'm silly. It wouldn't be the first time I've been accused of that. When a "non maritime crewmember" starts handing out instructions like "Go back to your cabin" THEY BECOME LEGALLY CULPABLE WHETHER THEY ARE TRAINED OR NOT. Its not optional. THEY ARE TAKING PEOPLE'S LIVES IN THEIR HANDS. So don't give me your bullshit. THEY BECOME LEGALLY CULPABLE!!! Its just like a hotel manager telling you, "Go back to your room and well have this fire out in a jiffy." If you die in your room, the hotel and the manager are both culpable.
Shouldn't every cruise ship have a few old sailor types to yell at the passengers when this happens. "Aye, she's an old ship but she's still tough as the men who crew her. Stay in ye seat lest ye end up in Davey Jones' locker!"
This was a good example of a "swiss cheese" situation. The weather was bad, but not beyond what the ship could cope with. The engine oils tanks were low, but still within limits. The waves though caused the oil to slosh around in the tanks, and as it did it trigged a low oil alarm that shut down the engines. A ship in a storm with no engines (or a sailing ship that looses it's sails) is a very dangerous place to be. Luckily none of the holes lined up that day. It shows how risks can add up though, and too many "it's just within limits" can lead to serious incidents.
ah yeah lets get a thousand old people up and moving with the ship rocking and rolling. The crew was right to tell them to stay seated till they figured out themselves
@@goodkrypollo1706 im a what? Have you been on a viking cruise before? Or a cruise for over 50+ ?? The crews job in this situation is to keep the passengers calm and orderly. That way if they need to evacuate they can do it in an orderly fashion. If you have never been in a cruise or in this situation please do not comment
@@goodkrypollo1706 If too many people go to one side of a ship, it WILL capsize, they are not invincible, and it will cause more harm if you all go scrambling for the lifeboats, not to mention the fact that old/elderly people have more brittle bones, and can easily be trampled if 3000 people go running.
The stewards told them to stay seated because they knew that it was important for the passengers to be paying attention to the subsequent incoming instructions after the alarm had gained everyones attention. In this case that message was going to muster stations A or B. Imagine if the the captain had decided muster station A was unsafe and the passengers ignored the stewards and started moving the second they heard the alarm? You'd have a good chunk of passengers running off towards muster station A (the one they'd been told to go to in the drill), meaning they'd possibly be running into danger and at the very least in the wrong direction... Then you have to compound that most of them will be suffering from target fixation ("get to the point they'd been told is safe during the drill, muster point A") while being distracted by the human traffic, the rolling ship, keeping their families together, oh and now that annoying man on the PA system is saying something about muster stations B and C or whatever ("which obviously isn't important to us, because our muster point is station A"). Yes they could just repeat the message over and over but everyone will get to where they need to be far faster if they just stopped and listened in the first place instead of reacting without consideration. That's why the stewards told them to stay seated when they heard the alarm, it's not maliciousness, it's not incompetence, it's because it makes sure people are going in the right directions from the start, instead of going where ever they'd been drilled to go, which might be wrong (afterall it's not called an emergency because everything going as planned :P). Humans are really, stupid, especially when they're panicking and telling them to stay seated helps said humans get the information which kept them safe. Now in a lot of cases yes a delay in reaction can make emergencies worse (if you hear the bing bong on a plane, you put your seatbelt on that instant) and it is entirely possible that the drill was correct and everyone should go to where they were drilled to go. But by taking a few extra seconds to make sure you're going in the right direction, you can save yourself a lot of potential danger and travel time in getting to safety.
@@Logarithm906 as a former able sailor coming from ERRV ships id not listen to the "crew" if they asked me to stay seated. 7 shorts and 1 long, should be more than enought. the captain can inform passengers and the crew after the alarm has been given.
@@uggggggghhhhh yup! unless it's more dangerous to do this, they'll bring people to their muster stations (basically where people go to be evacuated) and get them onto lifeboats.
@@Winterx69 Is that a standardized thing or does that vary from one cruise company to another? It would be worth memorizing that if I was universal all over the world. But if on Carnival Crusies it simple means the Marshmallow Bar is now open on the Lido Deck, its not worth my time. Well... maybe...
@@Winterx69 Good to know. Thanks. But ahhh, do you know what code means the marsh-mellow bar is open on the Lido Deck? I mean... let's keep our priorities straight! LOL.
Oh,your god intervened? What is its name ´? I will instantly convert to it/him/her, because my god never does anything, it is silent, does not even find my car-keys for me. So,what ' s the name of your god: I will convert willingly and at once. Thank you for all relevant information.
Hun don't let fear get to you . Sure bad things happen s . It's called mother nature we can't beat that . You might as well stop flying and driving . I been on cruise ship five times . I prayed before I go . Because by the end of the day it was worth it . The best time of my life . But I feel sorry who have to clean up that mess .
@@CruiseTT Navy people know, when the seas get rough you don't walk around. cruise lines should inform passengers to stay in their cabins. BTW the life jackets are kept in the guest cabins.
@@chrislewis7238 They didn't want to have passengers in cabin, they want to have them in places where they can see them. In addition they was planing to do an airlift mission, due to the weather was so bad that life raft couldn't be used safely
I know the crew has fear these old folks will break their Bones, but this signal means Proceed to your Mustarstation at once. No, I would definitely not stay seated like they asked me to do.
What the hell is he talking about "please remain seated"!? That's the signal to go to the muster station! They won't leave us the hell alone the first day we get on board that we have to go there when the horn sounds!
You do understand that the crew is not telepathically linked to the bridge? They haven't got any clue what's going on, the ship is rolling badly so they order the passengers to stay where they are in order to not get hurt by flying furniture, tripping, or getting crushed in a panic. If you'd pay attention, the emergency signal first gives orders to the crew - "For all crew, get into your emergency positions". They did exactly what you want them to do, calm the situation, tend to the safety of the passengers, and wait for orders.
Do you understand that the emergency alarm was sounded, and all of those passengers were trained to go to their muster stations at the sound of that alarm (remember that pain in the ass muster drill EVERYONE must attend) and yet while it is going off the crew is telling them to stay put. Do you know that in the Concordia debacle that one of the key points of confusion was the staff giving conflicting directions to the passengers. The crew gets enormous power to direct and control the life or death of passengers during an emergency. Get with the program or get off the ship.
@@kokopfarm The alarm sounded literally after the crew gave orders the the passengers. Again, unless the Bridge crew can telepathically communicate with everyone onboard they only got the emergency signal at the end of this video
@@kokopfarm The stewards told them to stay seated because they knew that it was important for the passengers to be paying attention to the subsequent incoming instructions after the alarm had gained everyones attention. In this case that message was going to muster stations A or B. Imagine if the the captain had decided muster station A was unsafe and the passengers ignored the stewards and started moving the second they heard the alarm? You'd have a good chunk of passengers running off towards muster station A (the one they'd been told to go to in the drill), meaning they'd possibly be running into danger and at the very least in the wrong direction... Then you have to compound that most of them will be suffering from target fixation ("get to the point they'd been told is safe during the drill, muster point A") while being distracted by the human traffic, the rolling ship, keeping their families together, oh and that annoying man on the PA system saying something about muster stations B and C or whatever ("which obviously can't be important to us, because our muster point is station A"). Yes they could just repeat the message over and over but everyone will get to where they need to be far faster if they just stopped and listened in the first place instead of reacting without consideration. That's why the stewards told them to stay seated when they heard the alarm, it's not maliciousness, it's not incompetence, it's because it makes sure people are going in the right directions instead of just where ever they'd been drilled to go. Humans are really, stupid, especially when they're panicking and telling them to stay seated helps said humans get the information which kept them safe. Now in a lot of cases yes a delay in reaction can make emergencies worse (if you hear the bing bong on a plane, you put your seatbelt on that instant) but with ships you have minutes to contemplate a plan of action and taking a few extra seconds to think instead of just reacting actually saves far more lives than it costs.
@@Logarithm906 The drill that all passengers must go through does not train the passengers to stay put and pay attention. The drill teaches passengers and crew that when the distress signal is sounded, to proceed to the muster station. If the emergency was such that there was so much extra time to sit and pay attention, they would be making announcements, not sounding the one mechanism that unequivocally directs people to a muster station. It's like deploying an emergency chute on an airplane and telling everyone to stay in their seats with the seatbelt fastened. Or pull a fire alarm in a building and expect people to sit still until the fire department gets there. If y'all want people to sit around, perhaps the maritime profession should come up with a signal for that....especially given the documented chaos in previous maritime incidents where crew instructions were wrong and resulted in casualties
I am a seasoned cruiser, including Viking Ocean, and am very disturbed by the crew telling the passengers to stay seated! The procedure is to go directly to your muster station when the emergency alarm is sounded….that is what is taught at every muster drill. Period. Viking needs to see this video and immediately institute more training to the crew. Not Good.
EXACTLY and people in the comments are saying it was possibly a false alarm, but the captain literally made an announcement saying for the passengers to go to their muster stations.
@@aar.15d This Emergency happend outside Norway, in a storm. There was issued a storm warning. and most ships, went into dock or avoided operating in open sea. The announcement was automatic. The reason they wanted passenger to remain seated, was due to the weather was bad enough that they couldn't operate lifeboats safely. So the Norwegian air force Rescue helicopters and the Norwegian oil industry Rescue helicopters was airlifting passengers off the ship. They had 6 helicopters airlifting 460 of 915 passengers evacuated within 8-10 hour (each helicopter take 15 passengers and have to fly a bit of a distance, and it was only space for 1 helicopter to lift, on rotation). Due to many combinations, but mostly due to low lubrication oil level, all engine automatically stopped. The lub. oil level was within limit, but the ship was in 15 meter waves and due to this, the lub. oil in the oil tank, started to move back and fort, and occasionally exposed the drain pipe. ( Engines can only run without lubricant for a few minutes before being damaged) In the morning the weather was calm enough, that one of the huge anchor handling offshore vessel, could attach a tow line + Viking sky managed to start one of it's engines. note: - The anchor of Viking Sky was donated to a local museum for a symbolic sum. - the concentration of rescue helicopters on this rescue 4 of 12 rescue helicopters (air force) in addition of those 2 helicopters from oil industry. Norway had to repositioned rescue helicopters more North to still be able to cover rest of Norway including oil-rigs in the North Sea (or they had to shut down), - Gave Denmark and Sweden responsibility over the entire Skagerak (area between Norway, Sweden, Denmark) - - A Danish rescue helicopter was repositioned to Kristiansand in South Norway. - Great Britain was ready to supply assistance if needed.
Definition of a Cruise: Spend a lot of money to enjoy yourself but instead its the worst experience of you life. Basically they are being told to get to the life boats.
Nah, you'll be fine. Even if the ship sinks, there is plenty of room on the lifeboats. Well actually, lifeboats are packed like sardine cans when filled to capacity, but I mean you'll get off the ship safely. I think you have a better chance of getting struck by lightning than going down with a ship.
@@ambers2659 Wow, thanx for the update. I just checked Yahoo news, they are apparently towing it to a port, I think Molde. Apparently the airlift has been halted unless the captain decides it needs to be started again. Hopefully, it will reach port without much more trouble.
Clint Walker my mom was on one of the last helicopters. She and her friend are now safe in a hotel. Finally about 4am PST time. Maybe 11 am Norway time.
@@ambers2659 Thanx again for the update. Getting pulled up into a helicopter in those rough conditions must have been a pretty harrowing experience. I'm glad she's OK, and hopefully with no injuries.
It was probably the most terrifying thing I've ever had to do. I'm fairly certain I was among some of the first passengers to get airlifted. It went throughout the night. 19 hours. At breakfast on Sunday morning there were still passengers arriving at out hotel in Kristiansand.
This is MS Viking sky, they was in a Storm on the Norwegian coast, where the waves can be quite ruff (that day they had waves up to 15 meters). They had a full engine blackout, due to there was low lubrication oil level in the lubrication tank (within limit) and when the ship rocket back and forth the pipes in the tank got exposed, and limited the circulation from the lubrication oil tank, to the engine. The engine can only run a couple of minutts without lubrication before it get severely damaged or destroyed. Due to this the engine computer automatically shut down all engines. Luckily the anchor they dropped managed to get a hold, and that is what you see in this video.
If by "conflicting" you mean sequential instructions... The stewards told them to stay seated because they knew that it was important for the passengers to be paying attention to the subsequent incoming instructions after the alarm had gained everyones attention. In this case that message was going to muster stations A or B. Imagine if they decided muster station A was unsafe and they started moving the second they heard the alarm? You'd have a bunch of dozy passengers running off towards muster station A, possibly into danger and at the very least in the wrong direction... Then you have to compound that a bunch of them will be suffering from target fixation ("get to the point they'd been told is safe during the drill, point at A") while being distracted by the human traffic, the rolling ship, keeping their families together, oh and that annoying man on the PA system saying something about muster stations B and C ("which obviously can't be important to us, because our muster point is station A"). Humans are really, stupid, especially when they're panicking and telling them to stay seated helps said humans get the information which keeps them safe.
it's a muster alarm yes. but they crew with the approval of the captain, changed the plans. This is from "MS Viking Sky" that decide to ignore storm warnings and went to sea on Norways west coast. and had a full engine blackout due to low lubrication level (it was within limits... so long it was fairly calm sea.... But they experienced up to 15 meters waves in the North sea) at a muster alarm you are supposed to get to muster station for subsequently enter your life raft, but the weather was so bad that using lift rafts was dangerous and have to be last resort.
Not this time. They was in extreme bad weather, with no engine power and anchor out. but they declare emergency to get all passengers attention and have them listen to the crew. The crew wanted them to be seated because it would be dangerous to walk around. (try to imagen an 80 year old lady trying to stay on here feet, while the ship is rocking around)
I like how the lady puts her bag on.... she’s ready now 🤣
Major senior power move.
That would have been me😂
*puts on handbag and takes off earrings* "Bring it on." 🤣🤣
@@005cherrypie Same. As soon as my bag goes on...shit's going down!
👍😁😂😂😂😂😂😂
The alarm went off just to let the passengers know the popcorn is done.
To let them know they’re all going to drown
Nah, the ship was just backing up.
Also, don't forget 420 too
I know its scary for the guests but honestly must have been terrifying for the crew too, that is what they call home for sometimes up to a year at a time. All their belongings and everything. They are humans too and often guests forget this
I think guests realize that BUT the crew is responsible for the safety of the guests lives, so when the crew is not properly trained I think they deserve a pretty good dose of hostility. Honestly, wouldn't you be mad if you pulled a life preserver out of a closet and discovered they were only for decoration? How is that any different from a crew member jumping overboard and leaving passengers to fend for themselves? I'm not suggesting that happened here. I'm just saying there is a responsibility that goes along with the job.
@@Nash1a they are just employees, blame the operator of the ship not the people that work on it.
@@petetube99 NO. They are NOT just employees. They are crew of a ship and that that gives them a great deal of responsibility. Sure, LEGAL responsibility lies with the owner and operators. But the crew has an obligation to know emergency procedures and carry them out.
@@Nash1a no unless they are maritime crew they are only trained in minimum stcw required, and have no idea about what it means to work at sea. Complaining about non maritime crew is silly, what do you expect they get paid peanuts, are musicians chefs etc not mariners. If you want to change it write to the cruise companies and stop complaining about people who make due with what they have.
@@ermining1
Then I'm silly. It wouldn't be the first time I've been accused of that. When a "non maritime crewmember" starts handing out instructions like "Go back to your cabin" THEY BECOME LEGALLY CULPABLE WHETHER THEY ARE TRAINED OR NOT. Its not optional. THEY ARE TAKING PEOPLE'S LIVES IN THEIR HANDS. So don't give me your bullshit. THEY BECOME LEGALLY CULPABLE!!! Its just like a hotel manager telling you, "Go back to your room and well have this fire out in a jiffy." If you die in your room, the hotel and the manager are both culpable.
Shouldn't every cruise ship have a few old sailor types to yell at the passengers when this happens. "Aye, she's an old ship but she's still tough as the men who crew her. Stay in ye seat lest ye end up in Davey Jones' locker!"
This was a good example of a "swiss cheese" situation. The weather was bad, but not beyond what the ship could cope with. The engine oils tanks were low, but still within limits. The waves though caused the oil to slosh around in the tanks, and as it did it trigged a low oil alarm that shut down the engines. A ship in a storm with no engines (or a sailing ship that looses it's sails) is a very dangerous place to be. Luckily none of the holes lined up that day. It shows how risks can add up though, and too many "it's just within limits" can lead to serious incidents.
Go on a cruise they said, it will be fun they said. LMAO
It was but that's mother nature for ya .
It looks fun to me.
same thing happened to me on a cruise when the buffet ran out of mashed potatoes
Scott from Coventry 🤔
@@louisbrooker432 Not me.
We’re sinking keep seat
ah yeah lets get a thousand old people up and moving with the ship rocking and rolling. The crew was right to tell them to stay seated till they figured out themselves
@@alanjenko555 Ur a boot licker. Stick around on a sinking ship if you want.
@@goodkrypollo1706 im a what? Have you been on a viking cruise before? Or a cruise for over 50+ ?? The crews job in this situation is to keep the passengers calm and orderly. That way if they need to evacuate they can do it in an orderly fashion. If you have never been in a cruise or in this situation please do not comment
@@goodkrypollo1706 If too many people go to one side of a ship, it WILL capsize, they are not invincible, and it will cause more harm if you all go scrambling for the lifeboats, not to mention the fact that old/elderly people have more brittle bones, and can easily be trampled if 3000 people go running.
*keeps seat*
What a terrifying message to hear when at sea..
Crew: Everyone stay seated!!
Guests: Aight imma head out
😂😂 how many on set hearts started to skip a beat when that sounded on-board 😂
"Remain seated" That ain't the damn procedure! The captain sounds that alarm when he feels the passengers need to go to muster!
They will make a announcement after the crew probably wasn’t ready so they waited because of safety it could have also been a false alarm
The stewards told them to stay seated because they knew that it was important for the passengers to be paying attention to the subsequent incoming instructions after the alarm had gained everyones attention. In this case that message was going to muster stations A or B.
Imagine if the the captain had decided muster station A was unsafe and the passengers ignored the stewards and started moving the second they heard the alarm? You'd have a good chunk of passengers running off towards muster station A (the one they'd been told to go to in the drill), meaning they'd possibly be running into danger and at the very least in the wrong direction... Then you have to compound that most of them will be suffering from target fixation ("get to the point they'd been told is safe during the drill, muster point A") while being distracted by the human traffic, the rolling ship, keeping their families together, oh and now that annoying man on the PA system is saying something about muster stations B and C or whatever ("which obviously isn't important to us, because our muster point is station A"). Yes they could just repeat the message over and over but everyone will get to where they need to be far faster if they just stopped and listened in the first place instead of reacting without consideration.
That's why the stewards told them to stay seated when they heard the alarm, it's not maliciousness, it's not incompetence, it's because it makes sure people are going in the right directions from the start, instead of going where ever they'd been drilled to go, which might be wrong (afterall it's not called an emergency because everything going as planned :P).
Humans are really, stupid, especially when they're panicking and telling them to stay seated helps said humans get the information which kept them safe. Now in a lot of cases yes a delay in reaction can make emergencies worse (if you hear the bing bong on a plane, you put your seatbelt on that instant) and it is entirely possible that the drill was correct and everyone should go to where they were drilled to go. But by taking a few extra seconds to make sure you're going in the right direction, you can save yourself a lot of potential danger and travel time in getting to safety.
Exactly- such a poor direction! Fire them all!
@@Logarithm906 as a former able sailor coming from ERRV ships id not listen to the "crew" if they asked me to stay seated. 7 shorts and 1 long, should be more than enought. the captain can inform passengers and the crew after the alarm has been given.
"please remain seated, you'll float off the ship once she's gone down even if you bother standing up so..."
Must be a depressing feeling to know that the alarm is real and that you might have to be evacuated. Luckily it went well there.
evacuated where? the ocean?
@@uggggggghhhhh yup! unless it's more dangerous to do this, they'll bring people to their muster stations (basically where people go to be evacuated) and get them onto lifeboats.
@@aar.15d damn
@@uggggggghhhhh they actually do an emergency drill but you only go to the muster stations, and you don't get on the lifeboats
@@uggggggghhhhh just thinking the same thing.
All those colostomy bags filled instantly.
LOL A1 comment man
I hope you never have a burst bowel
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Just what you want to hear on a Cruise.....
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And this is why you should pay attention at the muster drill! I would be going for a life jacket though!
First part looked like a scene from Star Trek with Captain Piccard at the helm and an officer behind him "bracing for impact".
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Well if it was a PC giving off those beeps, I'd check my ram. But when a cruise ship gives off the same beeps, I've no idea what to do.
7 short beeps followed by a single, long beep = General Alarm (as in go to Muster Stations and prepare to Abandon Ship)
@@Winterx69 Is that a standardized thing or does that vary from one cruise company to another? It would be worth memorizing that if I was universal all over the world. But if on Carnival Crusies it simple means the Marshmallow Bar is now open on the Lido Deck, its not worth my time. Well... maybe...
@@Nash1a Hiya. Yes, that is an international safety standard.
@@Winterx69 Good to know. Thanks. But ahhh, do you know what code means the marsh-mellow bar is open on the Lido Deck? I mean... let's keep our priorities straight! LOL.
@@Winterx69 Passengers should know that...the station bill is in every cabin. as in: READ THE FUCKING MANUAL !
Please remain seated&get to emergency muster stations A or B, 😅🙈
This happens on cruise ships now every time somebody sneezes....
0:38 Ooh its time for Jeopardy!
music from titanic starts playing...
Thanks God for the 2nd life😥
Oh,your god intervened? What is its name ´? I will instantly convert to it/him/her, because my god never does anything, it is silent, does not even find my car-keys for me. So,what ' s the name of your god: I will convert willingly and at once. Thank you for all relevant information.
This is 2021 not the 1600s. No such thing as god.
The pizza rolls are done
This is why I stay in a comfortable 4* or 5* resort 🤣🏖️
Tsunami: *hey*
“STAY SEATED! WOMEN AND CHILDREN ONLY AT THIS TIME!”
Hun don't let fear get to you . Sure bad things happen s . It's called mother nature we can't beat that . You might as well stop flying and driving . I been on cruise ship five times . I prayed before I go . Because by the end of the day it was worth it . The best time of my life . But I feel sorry who have to clean up that mess .
I worked on this ship 2017-2018(Caribbean island's),it was a nice time!
Entertainment was light that day until the Captain had an idea 💡
Smart passengers are back in their cabins. They don't wait to be instructed to do so, like these folks right here.
That alarm was a call to muster, so anyone in their cabins had to leave them.
@@CruiseTT Navy people know, when the seas get rough you don't walk around. cruise lines should inform passengers to stay in their cabins. BTW the life jackets are kept in the guest cabins.
@@chrislewis7238 But there are spares located near all muster stations. SOLAS requirement.
@@chrislewis7238 They didn't want to have passengers in cabin, they want to have them in places where they can see them. In addition they was planing to do an airlift mission, due to the weather was so bad that life raft couldn't be used safely
I know the crew has fear these old folks will break their Bones, but this signal means Proceed to your Mustarstation at once. No, I would definitely not stay seated like they asked me to do.
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What the hell is he talking about "please remain seated"!? That's the signal to go to the muster station!
They won't leave us the hell alone the first day we get on board that we have to go there when the horn sounds!
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I particularly like how the crew was telling the passengers something different than the bridge.....like they knew what was going on.
You do understand that the crew is not telepathically linked to the bridge? They haven't got any clue what's going on, the ship is rolling badly so they order the passengers to stay where they are in order to not get hurt by flying furniture, tripping, or getting crushed in a panic. If you'd pay attention, the emergency signal first gives orders to the crew - "For all crew, get into your emergency positions". They did exactly what you want them to do, calm the situation, tend to the safety of the passengers, and wait for orders.
Do you understand that the emergency alarm was sounded, and all of those passengers were trained to go to their muster stations at the sound of that alarm (remember that pain in the ass muster drill EVERYONE must attend) and yet while it is going off the crew is telling them to stay put.
Do you know that in the Concordia debacle that one of the key points of confusion was the staff giving conflicting directions to the passengers.
The crew gets enormous power to direct and control the life or death of passengers during an emergency. Get with the program or get off the ship.
@@kokopfarm The alarm sounded literally after the crew gave orders the the passengers. Again, unless the Bridge crew can telepathically communicate with everyone onboard they only got the emergency signal at the end of this video
@@kokopfarm The stewards told them to stay seated because they knew that it was important for the passengers to be paying attention to the subsequent incoming instructions after the alarm had gained everyones attention. In this case that message was going to muster stations A or B.
Imagine if the the captain had decided muster station A was unsafe and the passengers ignored the stewards and started moving the second they heard the alarm? You'd have a good chunk of passengers running off towards muster station A (the one they'd been told to go to in the drill), meaning they'd possibly be running into danger and at the very least in the wrong direction... Then you have to compound that most of them will be suffering from target fixation ("get to the point they'd been told is safe during the drill, muster point A") while being distracted by the human traffic, the rolling ship, keeping their families together, oh and that annoying man on the PA system saying something about muster stations B and C or whatever ("which obviously can't be important to us, because our muster point is station A"). Yes they could just repeat the message over and over but everyone will get to where they need to be far faster if they just stopped and listened in the first place instead of reacting without consideration.
That's why the stewards told them to stay seated when they heard the alarm, it's not maliciousness, it's not incompetence, it's because it makes sure people are going in the right directions instead of just where ever they'd been drilled to go.
Humans are really, stupid, especially when they're panicking and telling them to stay seated helps said humans get the information which kept them safe. Now in a lot of cases yes a delay in reaction can make emergencies worse (if you hear the bing bong on a plane, you put your seatbelt on that instant) but with ships you have minutes to contemplate a plan of action and taking a few extra seconds to think instead of just reacting actually saves far more lives than it costs.
@@Logarithm906 The drill that all passengers must go through does not train the passengers to stay put and pay attention. The drill teaches passengers and crew that when the distress signal is sounded, to proceed to the muster station. If the emergency was such that there was so much extra time to sit and pay attention, they would be making announcements, not sounding the one mechanism that unequivocally directs people to a muster station.
It's like deploying an emergency chute on an airplane and telling everyone to stay in their seats with the seatbelt fastened. Or pull a fire alarm in a building and expect people to sit still until the fire department gets there.
If y'all want people to sit around, perhaps the maritime profession should come up with a signal for that....especially given the documented chaos in previous maritime incidents where crew instructions were wrong and resulted in casualties
Maday Maday the ship sinks😂
Its great walking down the flats on a 35-45 degree angle hahahahaha
Was this the one in Norway
Ethan Carberry-Holt yes it was.
My exact idea of a vacation, 2 weeks off a year to do this NOT
papa bits a vacation you’ll never forget
This happens so rarely.
Stay seated? IM ALREADY HOLDING ON TO THE BARS AT THE BACK OF THE SHIP
Was that real or at port?
Amazing and very interesting video🎥.. Good footage and also very frightening.
Do keep posting
Warm regards and best wishes
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I am a seasoned cruiser, including Viking Ocean, and am very disturbed by the crew telling the passengers to stay seated! The procedure is to go directly to your muster station when the emergency alarm is sounded….that is what is taught at every muster drill. Period. Viking needs to see this video and immediately institute more training to the crew. Not Good.
7 short tones and 1 long is abandon ship
No way I'd walk to the muster station being thrown left and right
Never trust cruise ship crew! That's the lifeboat alarm and they are telling to remain seated!!
EXACTLY and people in the comments are saying it was possibly a false alarm, but the captain literally made an announcement saying for the passengers to go to their muster stations.
@@aar.15d
This Emergency happend outside Norway, in a storm. There was issued a storm warning. and most ships, went into dock or avoided operating in open sea.
The announcement was automatic.
The reason they wanted passenger to remain seated, was due to the weather was bad enough that they couldn't operate lifeboats safely. So the Norwegian air force Rescue helicopters and the Norwegian oil industry Rescue helicopters was airlifting passengers off the ship. They had 6 helicopters airlifting 460 of 915 passengers evacuated within 8-10 hour (each helicopter take 15 passengers and have to fly a bit of a distance, and it was only space for 1 helicopter to lift, on rotation).
Due to many combinations, but mostly due to low lubrication oil level, all engine automatically stopped. The lub. oil level was within limit, but the ship was in 15 meter waves and due to this, the lub. oil in the oil tank, started to move back and fort, and occasionally exposed the drain pipe. ( Engines can only run without lubricant for a few minutes before being damaged)
In the morning the weather was calm enough, that one of the huge anchor handling offshore vessel, could attach a tow line + Viking sky managed to start one of it's engines.
note:
- The anchor of Viking Sky was donated to a local museum for a symbolic sum.
- the concentration of rescue helicopters on this rescue 4 of 12 rescue helicopters (air force) in addition of those 2 helicopters from oil industry. Norway had to repositioned rescue helicopters more North to still be able to cover rest of Norway including oil-rigs in the North Sea (or they had to shut down),
- Gave Denmark and Sweden responsibility over the entire Skagerak (area between Norway, Sweden, Denmark) - - A Danish rescue helicopter was repositioned to Kristiansand in South Norway.
- Great Britain was ready to supply assistance if needed.
Always trust ship crew. If you don't, then *you* are a big security risk and might put yourself or others in danger.
You're giving advice that will kill people
Definition of a Cruise: Spend a lot of money to enjoy yourself but instead its the worst experience of you life. Basically they are being told to get to the life boats.
"everything is ok! please remain seated!!!"
*general emergency signal going off*
Oh ya???? Why don't i believe you????
What was the nature of the emergency?
My fear of boats increases
Nah, you'll be fine. Even if the ship sinks, there is plenty of room on the lifeboats. Well actually, lifeboats are packed like sardine cans when filled to capacity, but I mean you'll get off the ship safely. I think you have a better chance of getting struck by lightning than going down with a ship.
I hope your mom is OK.
Thank you. Still on board. 12 hours now!
@@ambers2659 Wow, thanx for the update. I just checked Yahoo news, they are apparently towing it to a port, I think Molde. Apparently the airlift has been halted unless the captain decides it needs to be started again. Hopefully, it will reach port without much more trouble.
Clint Walker my mom was on one of the last helicopters. She and her friend are now safe in a hotel. Finally about 4am PST time. Maybe 11 am Norway time.
@@ambers2659 Thanx again for the update. Getting pulled up into a helicopter in those rough conditions must have been a pretty harrowing experience. I'm glad she's OK, and hopefully with no injuries.
It was probably the most terrifying thing I've ever had to do. I'm fairly certain I was among some of the first passengers to get airlifted. It went throughout the night. 19 hours. At breakfast on Sunday morning there were still passengers arriving at out hotel in Kristiansand.
Well I can scratch another off the to do list.
At least it wasn’t COVID
Both bad situs, the engine went during a storm, Luckily there was a lull &being near land& sage harbouring so tugs towed them in
That's one loud microwave...
I would have had a panic attack! I feel
Bad for everyone involved.
No need to tell me twice!!
Why isn't stuff bolted down in place?
Emergency signal and the crew says please remain sitted 😂😂😂😂 ... where did you train bruh
In this situation, it was totally correct to do
I would be throwing up all over the place
FYI! Dont watch this clip. Nothing happens for one minute straight. Just old folks and an alarm.
Sounding the alarm for hitting some heavy waves? It sounds more like there’s a hole in the ship lol
This is MS Viking sky, they was in a Storm on the Norwegian coast, where the waves can be quite ruff (that day they had waves up to 15 meters). They had a full engine blackout, due to there was low lubrication oil level in the lubrication tank (within limit) and when the ship rocket back and forth the pipes in the tank got exposed, and limited the circulation from the lubrication oil tank, to the engine. The engine can only run a couple of minutts without lubrication before it get severely damaged or destroyed. Due to this the engine computer automatically shut down all engines.
Luckily the anchor they dropped managed to get a hold, and that is what you see in this video.
Why were you filming in the first place?
Why videos so short?
Would like to know how this ended..
Was the ship ok did it sink
Aren’t these the same alarms used on Holland America Line ships?
It's the same alarms also in some Royal Caribbean cruises
They are the same on every ship. The alarms are mentioned in SOLAS.
Isn't that the same sun in China?
It's the same alarm used on every ship worldwide. Sort of like how airlines use "Mayday, mayday, mayday"
Did this ship go down?
Why so short?
I would already have ran into my room to get my stuff, idc if they say to stay seated.
Couldn't think of a worse holiday, trapped on a vessel.
Conflicting information. Stay seated but go to your muster-station. WTF ?
If by "conflicting" you mean sequential instructions... The stewards told them to stay seated because they knew that it was important for the passengers to be paying attention to the subsequent incoming instructions after the alarm had gained everyones attention. In this case that message was going to muster stations A or B.
Imagine if they decided muster station A was unsafe and they started moving the second they heard the alarm? You'd have a bunch of dozy passengers running off towards muster station A, possibly into danger and at the very least in the wrong direction... Then you have to compound that a bunch of them will be suffering from target fixation ("get to the point they'd been told is safe during the drill, point at A") while being distracted by the human traffic, the rolling ship, keeping their families together, oh and that annoying man on the PA system saying something about muster stations B and C ("which obviously can't be important to us, because our muster point is station A").
Humans are really, stupid, especially when they're panicking and telling them to stay seated helps said humans get the information which keeps them safe.
That's a muster alarm though
it's a muster alarm yes. but they crew with the approval of the captain, changed the plans. This is from "MS Viking Sky" that decide to ignore storm warnings and went to sea on Norways west coast. and had a full engine blackout due to low lubrication level (it was within limits... so long it was fairly calm sea.... But they experienced up to 15 meters waves in the North sea)
at a muster alarm you are supposed to get to muster station for subsequently enter your life raft, but the weather was so bad that using lift rafts was dangerous and have to be last resort.
I'd ask for a brandy.
Are you dressed in your best and prepared to go down like a gentleman?
@@mohsinuddin7049 Always when I board a ship . ;)
.... bottle.
Stay seated, e're sinking...!
Drink drink drink
Context please?
Stay seated my eye... im going outside by the life boats ... ✌🏾🏃🏾♀️
Seat and wait to die. Is all under control.
First class passengers only
How could you remain seated. You need the vest as soon as possible! Its a fucking emergency!
Not this time. They was in extreme bad weather, with no engine power and anchor out. but they declare emergency to get all passengers attention and have them listen to the crew. The crew wanted them to be seated because it would be dangerous to walk around. (try to imagen an 80 year old lady trying to stay on here feet, while the ship is rocking around)
What is happening
Twist one up for me
those doorknobs saying stay seated are helpful.
Time to purge😉
POV: there's a karen 😎👍🏻
Little bit scary that the crew had no idea what the alarm meant.
If this happened in 2050 the Captain would be sued for saying “Ladies and Gentleman” and the “nonbinary” person stayed behind 😂
JUST BLAME BIDEN!!!! LETS GO BRANDON😂👍😁🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
He was stretching his calfs.
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If this happened in 2050 the Captain would get sued for saying “Ladies and Gentleman” instead of “ALL NORMAL PEOPLE OR LGBTTQ2QIAAP+”
Ladies and gentlemen we're idiots and don't know what we're doing
Lots of shabbily dressed people.