Pilot Aborts Landing Too Late
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*Tokyo 😉
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Bro like this music?
Me too!
Bro likes music 0:30
First one was more touch, touch, touch and go.
Yea. My reaction at the end was "Holy Shit!"
Was that like a bad training flight or something
@@felixx321 Possibly, but could also be windshear, though I don't see any crabbing. Which tbh might be the issue.
@@PiskeyFaeri More like deconstructed crabbing. It's just a bit alarming that they went through all that and then had this delayed reaction of "oh yeah we're way past minimums"
@@felixx321 Minimums was clearly not an issue here, weather seems fine.
Flight 209 now arriving at Gate 8, Gate 9, Gate 10.....Gate 13, Gate 14, Gate 15....Gate 23, 24, 25
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I just want to tell you both good luck. We're all counting on you.
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Just don’t call me Shirley
The decision to go around can be taken at any time up until reverse thrust is applied, in this case it was probably because reverse thrust was never applied. As for the gear down A330 he probably had hot brakes, takeoff can be initiated at any time before the brakes reach 300 degrees C after that takeoff must be delayed for brake cooling, if they had reached say 280 degrees just before takeoff then retracting the gear would cause them to continue hot soaking and may trigger a hot brakes caution in flight, this means lowering the gear to cool. Much easier to leave the wheels down for a few minutes before retraction. I used to do it all the time at Vegas and Cairo.
Why would the brakes get that hot before takeoff? Would it be due to an earlier rejected takeoff or could it just be a long taxi?
@@arska-pelejavlogejajaautoj5030 usually long taxi, downhill taxi, hot climate or a combination of all of these things, the A330 was especially susceptible to hot brakes while the A350 is not, the A320 family are fitted with brake fans as this is a common problem but long haul aircraft are not to save weight.
The landing gears aren’t kept down to cool the brake. After lift off, wheels are braked before the landing gears are retracted to avoid effect of gyroscopic precession. If one of the brake is deactivated, we have to wait for the wheels to stop before retract the landing gears. I fly A320, and I’ve done this procedure many times.
Someone noted that at 0:37 it appeared the thrust reversers WERE briefly deployed.
@@johnmorris7815A330s don’t have quick enough turns for hot brakes to be an issue prior to take off. This was exactly what the other guy said, one of the brakes was deactivated, so the pilots had to wait for the wheel to spin down, before retraction.
0:33 That was dangerously close to a tailstrike!
yeah true
Oh yes, when there would be some more crosswind it would happen
Note that during a regular “aggressive” rotation, the tail comes with 2 feet of the ground. It’s as designed.
@@zrhaircraftzero to do with crosswind.
@@rdspam true
AAL 737 was like don't mind me, just passing through 😄 2:44
Wild ride in the back of the 767😮
first one was just the pilot doing a wheelie challenge
HAH !!!!! (That's a grin)!
767 crew: “What can we do to get 3 minutes of aviation more likes?”
"Change our livery to Aerosucre?" "No time!"
@@icollectstories5702Lol!
*Dear United Pilots,*
*The Boeing 767-300 is not a rodeo machine into which you insert a quarter and you start going "Yeehaw!" in the cockpit.*
Na, you do that with 757s - overpowered rodeo machines!
probably took off from texas
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1:31 i think its normal, i saw a few weeks ago an a321neo doing the same thing. I asked an a321neo pilot (after we landed they let me go to the cockpit), and he said they are doing it for cooling the aircrafts brakes
Brakes aren't hot on takeoff.
@@BigEightiesNewWave if they have to brake hard after landing, sometimes 55 minutes (when the passengers leave the aircraft, then the ground crew refuel it, and the new passengers board) isn't enough time for the brakes to cool down.
Brakes can absolutely be hot on takeoff if they were just marginally below the max temp when starting the takeoff roll.
@@CarpyCarpusthat’s on A321s due to quick turns at the gate. Meaning the brakes don’t have time to cool. An A330 doesn’t have this kind of problem. It takes too long to turn the aircraft at the gate.
This was likely due to a disconnected brake by maintenance. That means that wheel cannot be braked to a stop, before gear retraction. So the pilots have to wait for the wheel to stop spinning.
@@theflyingrealestateagent2828usually not an issue on the A330.
On a nice day Nice is nice for plane watching.
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@@Moarb1d nice!
My very nice niece likes to watch nice planes take off in Nice on a nice day
It's nice to be nice to the nice.
Dreamy landing indeed!
Very interesting footage, thumbs up mate
Looks like pilot forgot to throttle up resulting in no lift when they're trying to pull up. You can see the engines are at idle from touch down and don't see the engine rpm change until around the time the water starts blowing at 0:36. That really could've ended bad.
honestly, I think that United crew forgot to advance the thrust after the go around was called. That would explain the initial rotate after touchdown, realization of low thrust, thrust throwing water off, derotate, rotate.
Exactly. He had to put the nose down to pick up speed before he’s able to get airborne again. Ty sir. Someone understands physics on this channel!!
When you press the TOGA button it takes quite a while for the engines to spool up and gain sufficent thrust to accelerate to rotation speed again
Never is too late for a good go around. Well done awesome pilots!!!
"Awesome pilots" would have been bouncing down the runway like that.
Thank you
Great video!
I really grooved on the "Heads Up" sequence.
Cool! 😉👍
HUD indicates like fighter jet cockpit so cool
That wasn't a late go around! That was a 767 getting it's touch and go's in!
Dang! United must be recruiting pilots from Aerosucre again. Hope the plane's shocks withstood bouncing down the runway like that!!😬😳
Agreed !! That's a lot of abuse on that gear !!!
Damn listen to those PW4000's roar! Unpopular opinion but Id take that any day over the GE90
WOW! Super Video!!!
Aviation is the best ✈️👑
Family is better
Awesome 👌
I just love the humour of some of the comments, ie. Just passing through and rodeo comment. Made my day. Best laugh ever.
What the hell was that first landing?! Never seen anything like that.
Naa that forst clip was mad💀💀 looks like the speed wasn't enough to initiate the go around yet. Can imagine was it was like inside the cabin and the cockpit
It seems that the speed brakes did not deploy on touchdown. Hence, it is difficult to plant the aircraft into ground. This is not uncommon on B767. Hence, the PM must announce asap to PF if the speed brakes fail to deploy on touchdown.
1:02 aah.. narita rwy 34r... good luck landing there, because it feels like ages to get to the terminal, especially if it's t1 😅 also nice catch of toho shrine there 1:09 😁
In the first clip, were they just waiting for the up-de-doo part of this roller-coaster of a runway?
Nice clips
Looks like the pilots made an excellent choice to go around. Well done United Pilots. Go around is always an option until thrust reverses are deployed.
Man that Air France landing so smooth he got like a full 2 seconds after the 5 call out be for touching
Smooth landing maybe but at the expense of runway behind the aircraft on the short runway in Narita, so not necessarily ideal.
Landed at Nice NCE, Macau MFM and the old Kai Tak HKG, all have one end of the runway by the water.
Rio SDU, both ends by the water, mountains nearby
@@kkfoto Wow.. thanks for sharing
That Qatar 🇶🇦 approach was awesome.
The 767 seems to have no ground spoiler extension at touchdown.
Incredibly visual approach.
2:00 beautiful flying like an eagle
Late but not “Too late”!
Definitely will have triggered a plethora of FDM events and a bunch of paperwork though!
‘Incredible Visual Approach’ into nice - All approaches for runway 22L/R terminate with a visual segment (VPT Circle), happens 100’s of times a day, even the A380 does it!
This channel loves hyperbole and borderline clickbaiting. Being only a three minute shortform channel, it is not nearly as annoying as longform channels that fail to deliver the claimed title over a 20 or 30 minutes period.
you must be sooooo fun at parties
and where is that part where the pilot aborts landing too late? i can’t find it anywhere
Dear 3 minutes of aviation, can you please change your titles to be less clickbaity? I love your videos, but no, the united 767's go around was not too late, as it hadn't deployed its thrust reversers. Maybe title it, "767 has late go around" or something like that. Also could you respond to this comment? I don't want to be hater, I just feel like more factual titles are better.
Should say struggling to go around?
It looked like a touch and go
Bro this was insane! No need to change the title. It was actually crazy 😯
I dunno - it was too late for the gear and tyres for sure.
@@mukul713 It was struggling to land, it had no problem going around.🤦♂️
Living right next door to Heathrow airport I often see aircraft flying off into the distance with the landing gear still down.
I understand that the aircraft can go around any time before reverse thrust is applied. But I'm curious why the pilot chose to go around once the nose wheel was down as well as the main gear. Can anyone enlighten me?
running out of runway to stop safely.
Not enough runway to safely stop the aircraft??
Because by the time he was settled on the ground he was way out of the touchdown zone and thus his landing performance calculation was completely compromised and trying to continue the roll out meant he was in no man’s land regarding whether he would have enough runway to stop on or not.
There was enough runway to stop seeing as they spent 10 seconds accelerating to takeoff again
@@TTSpectre clearly you are or a pilot of commercial aeroplanes. Once you’ve gone out of the touch down zone you go-around/ baulked landing go unless you can’t due to a tech fault etc. Your opinion about whether there is enough runway left to stop on is irrelevant.
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"Hey, corporate said you're not current."
"Hang on..."
If a brake is inoperative, the gear needs to remain extended to allow the wheel to spin down. 1:31
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And the video is actually three minutes sharp... well done!!!
Thx for the compliment 😊
what location was that for the Qatar visual approach?
Don't call it 'too late' unless something goes wrong, that is youtubese. This was late, but definitely not too late, as long as the craft climbed out safely.
Why did the first plane flew up again when it has landed ?
May be Euro Sucre daredevil pilot transferred to United 767.
The speedbrakes did not come up on the United 767, and a brake temperature indicator probably was inoperative on the aer lingus...take a takeoff performance penalty and leave gear down for 5 minutes after takeoff.
So no one will be talking about the car in the background 0:40
That was an airport vehicle. I was kinda curious that it did not turn down the runway after the aircraft to make sure nothing was on the runway.
I always thought pilots were mandated to use english only in the cockpit? Or is it just for radio communication etc?
Just been reading the comments of all the experts who were in the cockpit at the time.....................
What's actually incredible is anyone thinking that visual approach was incredible.
Why do a TOGA at all? Looked like a pretty good crosswind landing there…
Several good crosswind landings ; ) By the time all the gear were down and ready for braking, more than one-third of the runway was behind them.
Landing in Toyko japan ?
Windshear for the first one?
That car at 0:40 seems a bit lucky not to have gotten pushed around by the engine exhaust!
Why was that car moving across an active runway?
Pretty sure it's far behind and the zoom makes it look so near. Probably got authorization to cross the runway after the landing aircraft, so no big deal
The kangaroo plane! Wonder how the passengers felt!
The B767 going around looked like the wise thing to do, They touched down too far down the runway and there was not enoigh room to get stopped. The choice was to run off the end of the runway or go around. I think I would go around.
0:00 to 0:40 give FedEx flight 80 vibes
im pretty sure the pilot knew what he was doing in the first one he probably put the nose gear down to gain more speed to takeoff again
1:16 - Hey, no need for name calling.
Are you sure it wasn't a training touch and go ?
i don‘t see any spoilers deploy upon touch down of the united b767?
most likely becasue he never went to reverse thrust. The auto spoiler if armed won't deploy until you pull the reverse levers.
@@jonnie2bad according to my knowledge the spoilers deploy once the aircraft touches down and is not related to reverse thrust?
@@jonnie2badthis is incorrect. The auto spoilers come up on touchdown.
@@mvb7503correct. I believe the 767 uses wheel tilt. I have a feeling that part of this problem was that they didn’t arm the spoilers.
@@jonnie2badI think you have to arm the spoilers for them to deploy once weight is on the wheels if memory serves me right - nothing to do with reverse deployment.
The first one the 10seconds between 26 and 36 seconds hes clearly trying to get her to fly again then realises his lack of road left. Slams the nose back down.
United pilot has 2000 hrs of flying, 2000 take offs and 4000 landings to his name! totally normal
Was the American Airlines 737 MAX coming in too hot? I'm not a pilot but to me that looked like an extremely fast landing attempt.
You cannot tell how fast an aeroplane is landing at from looking at it from outside. Their VREF is variable based on weight and a factor is added to that for the prevailing wind. What it looks like from outside is meaningless.
@@petesmith1924 Cheers.
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Tots and go 😊
Remember it's an attempt to land... Until you come to a stop... Then it's a landing or a crash.
on that first one, everything happened but the crash. Not sure what that was all about.
1:18 The plane insulted him😅😅😅
Touch and Go..
First one was filmed by a friend of mine 😊😊
if you look closely on the first clip at 00:37 you can see reverser deployment before the choose to go around. that could have been an excursion at the end on a different day
There was no reverser deployment. You are looking at runway reflection on the cowling.
Because the air traffic controller didn’t clear to land and told him to go around just before he lands
That pilot havd great intuition its too late too fast to land and breaking
I enjoy these videos, interesting sights to be seen with these big jets. Will be flying next week, to Geneva and onward to Agadir. But, yesterday I saw a hawk attack a sparrow in my garden, just ten feet in front of me, and I was amazed by the mid-air speed and dexterity of both birds. On this occasion the sparrow managed to escape. But it's evidence that God designs of flying creatures are way better than what man has designed in planes.
In the first clip the word extremely used correctly
My guess is that the blood pressure of the pilots in that first plane went through the roof. Title is ok. That was way too long.
That first landing at ZRH was sickening. The camera angle is bad, but the decision Togo around seems to be late and not followed through. Yet another airline to add to the no-fly list.
that was basically a touch and go
No, it wasn’t. It was a baulked landing.
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United again??
The blurred footage before it clears is distracting. It feels as if you’re missing the beginning of video. Why not just start video in focus with information embedded within it.
If you don’t arm the auto spoilers it sucks
As far as I know, they open automatically - and it looks like they did, but hard to see due to the angle of attack, just check out the video right before the car turns up.
Anyway, I can imagine the following: a trainee FO tried to land without luck. The FO pressed the TOGA but the nose was up, so the captain took over the control, pressed the nose down to gain enough speed for the rotation.
TOGA✈️
The Nice approach will be RNAV
that first landing in ZRH was terrible! What was wrong?
Looks like they didn't have the lift to get back off the runway. Probably should have put the nose gear down right away until they got more speed. Luckily they saved it.
@@ScottRossilloI think it was an inexperienced PF who got it all wrong after the initial touchdown and slight bounce. The correct drill for a baulked landing (go around after touchdown) is to apply an armful of thrust, make sure the speedbrake is stowed, and rotate when the PM calls it, which is at the landing VREF, leaving the config alone. Once airborne you press TOGA and turn it into a go around.
Is it just me or the does the 767 kinda look like a big 737-8
First landing appears to be a training flight where was an intention to touch and go. Speedbrakes/Ground Spoilers were not armed and reversed thrust not selected, as per standard procedure. The point at which the thrust levers were stood up can be seen, then the subsequent takeoff thrust occurred shortly before rotate.
Everyone has their first few landings in a large jet and it’s an intimidating moment for most pilots, irrespective of how much simulator training has occurred prior. I wish the candidate all the best in their B767 career
Don't think United will fly a 767 from the US to Zurich to do touch and go's.