Cheaters, Trolls Or Tryhards? | A Complete Introduction To Ballgroups
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- čas přidán 16. 05. 2024
- Why are ballgroups so strong? Why do people play in ballgroups? What do ballgroups have to do with marine biology? These questions and more will be answered in this video!
This was recorded on a rather rowdy national holiday, so apologies if any background noise made its way in.
Music lifted from Perfect Dark, Jazz Jackrabbit, Glover, Ion Fury and Supplice.
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Highly informative video, great work brother. Love from PCNA
It only really sucks when each faction has two balls at a single keep and the server resets
Most case, a normal person get tired of being zergged down by a bunch of ppl that can’t kill them other way, and create a group to shit on zergling’s head.
That part of the Ichthyosaurus made me subscribe.
Glad to see evolutionary marine biology is good for engagement!
the 6 Paleontology channels I subscribed to during the pandemic would agree with you xD
I'm a solo pvper, i am also a nightblade brawler. I would rather not use stealth but the current pvp climate forced me into a stealth loadout because it is literally the only solution to roving killsquads in imp city that spam echoing vigor and backbar restos on their solo loadouts. If you are spotted by one of these ballgroups it is a near instant death. No matter how good you are. The cross healing and slows are simply too much. Scribing has me even more worried. Now these groups will have skill based radial pulls that can also breach, stun, or heal teammates. Meaning they can retire dark convergence and slot even more potent bombing sets. And aren't restrained by the 21 second cooldown of DC either. Or tether heals that can be paired with the life bond. I'm afraid that ballgroups will be so powerful in gold road that keeps will be seiged by no less than 5 or 6 coordinated players stacking these skills. Spamming heals and bomb loadouts, pulling and wiping huge swaths of players with titanic cleave, vicious death and plaguebreak every time their CC immune wears off. The worst part is that only 1 player has to run this loadout for it to kill dozens of people at a time there is no counter except for a counter bomber which won't matter because the ballgroup is so small that bombs don't scale high enough to be lethal, it will literally be the only thing you see. Mark my words.
Also remember zos said lag was from game having to calculate all our buffs and CP? How is scribing going to help I wonder lol
Elfs bane still work very well against groups
Probably the best video I've seen talking about the motivations for having a ballgroup instead of "hurr durr ballgroup bad because"
14:10 scathing
Good content
In that case it was because we were playing an unfun campaign, not a lack of experience 🤓
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playing alone in cyrodiil is boring anyway, i have seen people ping ponging between bleakers and aleswell endlessly and not to mention the fact it takes so much time to travel between keeps and when you die, it feels such a waste of time. you feel more motivated when you have a group of friends riding to a keep with you and you know the fight will last and you know that you dont have to retreat when numbers dont favor your side. i know tower runners exist or you can do small scale pvp at bruma or at that outcrop at nikel but i rather go to battlegrounds or IC.
nooooo we're not a ballgroup we're 8 man warden with a pull!!!!!
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The funny part about ball groups. Is that everyone just throws themselves at the machine Gun fire of the ball groups, rather than actually using strategy to take them down. The fundamental concept of a ball group is coordination and teamwork. And when you can find a way to interfere with their coordination, they can't function as a team as effectively. And it makes it so much easier to focus single targets and kill them
I always tell people spam knockbacks stuns and CCs on them. Especially on their attempted ult dumps. Messes their whole flow up and eventually they slip and you can kill them off
When will ballgroups evolve into crabs?
Ballgroups :pepehands:
Wow - thanks for saying all this! 100% agree... nice editing also; btw I like the the convergent evolution comparison 😀
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ball groups should be banned in pvp
it kills the pvp and the players alone are at a disadvantage
Now we only see ball groups
sometimes I see 5 or 6 at the same time
thank you for your clip
The fact you are not grouped doesn't mean you're alone.
ballgroups are packa of players twho like to compensate their personal and skill issues by ult dumping 4 random with 12
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Or maybe they are doing group pvp like the game intend you play
Cyrodiil, as it stands now, is quite clearly designed for ball groups.
You say bgs take skills, because you had to keep your buffs up? As 1vX'er I have to keep my buffs up myself, keep pressure on my enemies, keep my heals running, watch my sustain and to have a combat awareness on maximum level to not get cornered and zerged down. As long cross-healing is completly broken, ball groups don't require much skills that slightly above average PVP'er doesn't already have.
Guess that's why so many ballgroups eat shit immediately when pressured. It takes skill to get it right.
@@Degonyte Not every group with cross-healing is a ballgroup.
Yes I'm aware of that
Ball group is just cringe at this point .imagine using more than 8 ulti for a single person because they get bomb just a few minutes ago😂.
Have already tryed to play with ball and honestly it s boring .
After it s my opinion.
Sorry but running,echoing vigor +sime other hot , waitng for ulti or pull set like dc or rush or agony for killing some ppl or zerg , it s soo easy .
Even blind(or half) ppl can do it.
so a ballgrp is just a bigger grp - a raid - a warband so to speak yes? took eso players long enough to figure out that when they loose they could just stack bigger grps onto eachother and u know win more vs solo/duos/smaller grps - and lemme tell u this - in every other realm vs realm or pvp game where this mechanic works - it was not in the best interest for all players enjoying pvp content - it funneled more newbs into mass pvp and worse personal skill and everyone who knows how to will def abuse it on way or another
They're mostly trash players who can't do anything in pvp without synced sets and bombs...if zos ever ends HoT stacking in cyro bgs would be nothing
Someone died to a balgroup haha
@@laoch5658 ofc I have that's all I encounter most of the time in gh these days but once 1 of the key players dies they all fall like dominos because most of them can't survive without 6 resto staves shoved up their ahh
I got this in my recommendations. Don't play ESO. Wtf is a "ballgroup"?
I don't control the algorithm, man.
watch the video and find out :D
Imagine grouping in a group pvp zone. If you solo pvp youre against the true spirit of the pvp zone
The eternal battle of optimized group play and the bads that cry about it. You see it in any game where you can do group pvp. Calling a strat meta (in a derogatory way), easy, skill less and more is always, and will always be, an indicator of poor skill and close mindedness. Coordination with multiple other players takes much more skill than pressing buttons alone.
IF BETHESDA ERASE DARK CONVERGENCE ALL BG WILL DISSAPEAR INMEDIATLY. Cuz BG don't fight they just pile damage. When you take out DC, and BG really have a coordinated FIGHT YOU CAN TALK ABOUT OPTIMIZED GROUP AGAIN.
@@BBRocker75 Are they shitting on everyone else ? Yes.
Do they need good coordination and communication ? Yes.
Do they craft their builds and comp to work together in the most effective way available ? Yes.
Then it's optimized group play, doesn't mattter what you think it should be, facts talk more than your subjective opinion. Doesn't matter what they use, if it's OP or you personally dislike it. If that specific spell/combo gets removed they will use something else and you will cry about it too.
As I wrote earlier, people crying about meta are always closeminded or absolutely horrible at the game and sometimes both.
I laught a lot when you said: "They don't care about XP and/or Tickets". It was so good joke. THEY JUST WANT XP AND TICKETS, AND MONEY, cuz they are mercenaries, you can buy a BG to flip or ruin a whole a map. If u have enough gold you can get their services.
Whatever you're smoking is too strong man
the suggestion that there are "ballgroups" and if you're not a ballgroup you're a 'casual' player already gives away your bias. Many of us "casual" players have tried ballgroup playstyle and found it pathetic and lacking. We didn't level our players just to then roleplay as a bot train. The problem with ballgroups is that they rely on essentially performing ddos attacks on the server. All they're doing is overloading the server so that other players cannot access their abilities, even automatic passives like Slippery for example. The only players who think ballgroup is a skilled playstyle are....ballgroup players. We all know that Cyrodiil lags out easily with a large group of players in one place. Ball groups simply exploit this. Furthermore, the outcome of ballgroup play is something we "casual' players have witnessed. They all end up doing the same thing. Running around in circles for long periods of time, desperately ult-dumping solo players. It's boring for everyone involved and all it does is further degrade the Cyrodiil experience.
The term 'casual' here is used to distinguish players who do participate in group play, but do not spend any time optimizing their set-up or skills. It's an imperfect term, but still accurate enough when we try to distinguish those players from not just ballgroups, but smallscales and other organized groups which rely on more advanced teamwork. Not to mention the wording is still less biased than calling people bots.
And if as a casual player you try to mimick ballgroup play without fundamentally altering your approach to the way you play the map, you will indeed find it lacking and pathetic, as I already explain at length in the video.
The principles of ballgroup play are not unique to ballgroups. When I play in a 4-man and we end up killing large amounts of enemy players with just 2 DDs and 2 healers, what is the excuse then? Lag? Or just people using their skill and coordination to overcome a more numerous enemy.