My Unpopular Opinion On The Beatles Documentary!

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  • čas přidán 15. 12. 2021
  • I was told to watch "Get Back" the new Beatles documentary, by a few people, so I did. Here are my thoughts, unpopular opinions and maybe popular opinions on it. Do you agree or disagree with me? I WANT TO KNOW. So please, do tell.
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  • @JustinHawkinsRidesAgain
    @JustinHawkinsRidesAgain  Před 2 lety +117

    My friend, Pat Carty, is the music journalist I reference in the video and who is an excellent writer and critic. Here is his article on The Beatles Documentary, you should give it a read if you can: www.hotpress.com/music/youre-seeing-whats-behind-the-curtain-for-the-first-time-ever-breaking-down-peter-jacksons-the-beatles-get-back-22885131

    • @daisysabashed9661
      @daisysabashed9661 Před 2 lety +2

      Seeing you cover something ty segall. As in the KEXP (ty segall and the muggers) performance would be quite nice.

    • @HeinzizBaKeD
      @HeinzizBaKeD Před 2 lety

      Hey Justin! Your Patreon tier list is kinda confusing to me...at which tier do you offer guitar lessons one-on-one?

    • @marshallheadkt66
      @marshallheadkt66 Před 2 lety +1

      I read that name as Cat Party, then realised I’d misread it - with a real sense of disappointment.

    • @stevemorse108
      @stevemorse108 Před 2 lety +2

      The only conclusions this doc sustain in my opinion is that they had musical genius as we all knew, that they enjoyed goofing around and that to a large extent the anti yoko proponents might reconsider their positions at least partially and that of course heather mills should be horse whipped in public.

    • @DrTomoculus
      @DrTomoculus Před 2 lety +1

      They left out the part right before it where George talks about ISNT IT A PITY being rejected in 1966. And how upset he was the song was passed over.

  • @spankywzl
    @spankywzl Před 2 lety +713

    I liked the part where Ringo starts playing a song he wrote*, and George immediately grabs a guitar so he can help his friend flesh it out. That was who George was, and I miss him most. *Ringo had only written one song (Don't Pass Me By) for the band at this point and was, by most metrics, a novice at the practice of songwriting. Hearing George say, "I see, you've learned the A minor!" is such a sweet scene. George knew it was like pulling teeth to get a song past John and Paul, so he encourages Ringo immediately and adds to the tune for the bridge. To me it was just 2 friends working some musical stuff out, and meant more to me than the drama between the 2 head songwriters. The song was Octopus' Garden

    • @n0166
      @n0166 Před 2 lety +40

      Hey everybody ringos wrote a song! OK let's stick it on the fridge with magnets and never look at it again

    • @gc5907
      @gc5907 Před 2 lety +2

      Yeah,good song

    • @an1m
      @an1m Před 2 lety +2

      @@n0166 I love that part as well

    • @hkpr-ro6ui
      @hkpr-ro6ui Před 2 lety +17

      Well, when you're competing with A Day in the Life, Let It Be, Help!, Come Together, Sgt Pepper, etc., you need to bring something worthwhile to the table. It wasn't a communist collective, it was the greatest band of all time.

    • @gringochucha
      @gringochucha Před 2 lety +33

      @@hkpr-ro6ui I think you're missing the point. Regardless of whether a song made final cut, showing support in that kind of situation is just a nice thing to do. George was a nice dude. Paul and John, I have my doubts.
      And yeah, maybe if they had been nicer and less competitive, the music wouldn't have been as great. That's definitely a possibility. So I don't really care if I think Paul is a bit of a wanker. I still love his music with the Beatles.
      But I respect George and Ringo, because they've always come across as nicer people.

  • @ROLEPLAYA64
    @ROLEPLAYA64 Před 2 lety +484

    My hot take is like many peoples:
    Yoko didn't split up The Beatles.
    They genuinely loved each other
    Feck me, Paul McCartney is a talented bloke
    Billy Preston IS a Beatle
    They ate a LOT of toast... Did they have shares in Hovis or something?
    They were a hell of a live band.
    I think I love them now even more than I did.

    • @christianhaynes1954
      @christianhaynes1954 Před 2 lety +8

      Yoko had a lot to do with breaking them up . If we had film from John's house we would see and hear quite a bit of strife sewing on her part ( it's called pacive agressive behavior )

    • @hanktheblesseddeejay
      @hanktheblesseddeejay Před 2 lety +15

      @@christianhaynes1954 nothing is called ‘pacive agressive behavior’.

    • @mojopin2000
      @mojopin2000 Před 2 lety +8

      I think Someone started cutting onions in my house when Billy Preston first started playing along.
      There was something leaking from my eyes.

    • @gizmogeeks
      @gizmogeeks Před 2 lety +4

      @@mojopin2000 it was a magic moment - if you are a musician and have auditioned people to fill a gap in your band you would relate to the feeling that the band got when Billy stated playing what a relief -
      the smiles said it all :)

    • @thepagecollective
      @thepagecollective Před 2 lety

      @Billybob Ireland Sorry, maybe not a twat, but people saying this proves how much more talented he was than we thought is rubbish. Get Back, the song, people are amazed he banged out the basic riff in one sitting, but the lyrics are as stupid as it gets. He dickers in the rest of the documentary about the name in the song, which is about nothing. This was McCartney without Lennon for certain. No one says a word about Lennon bringing in Across the Universe, a breathtaking, iconic song. Or "Two of Us" if you want real McCartney brilliance.

  • @thomask1uk
    @thomask1uk Před 2 lety +261

    My hot take that nobody cares about:-
    Paul loved the Beatles
    John loved Yoko
    George loved Eric Clapton (who loved George’s wife)
    Ringo loved everyone, and drumming
    Nobody loved George enough
    They all loved toast! And Billy Preston!

    • @EzaneeGires
      @EzaneeGires Před 2 lety +15

      Seriously, their love for Bill Preston was so so heartwarming

    • @zachinabox2951
      @zachinabox2951 Před 2 lety +30

      Ringo especially loved George, who was quite fond of Ringo’s wife

    • @waynej2608
      @waynej2608 Před 2 lety +5

      @@zachinabox2951 Thus, both Ringo and his wife, 'loved' George.
      But, I thought that his wife married some Scotsmen from Hull.

    • @fuzzlewit9
      @fuzzlewit9 Před 2 lety

      That seems quite accurate to me.

    • @brendonzimmatore8955
      @brendonzimmatore8955 Před 2 lety

      And Nicky Hopkins.

  • @BorbMcGorb
    @BorbMcGorb Před 2 lety +378

    I’ve never hated Yoko… but I’ll always find that one clip her wailing like a banshee during a live performance and making Chuck Berry’s eyes bug out of his head to be funniest shit.

    • @chasleask8533
      @chasleask8533 Před 2 lety +24

      Something I noticed about my bands , is that any extra person at a rehearsal , turns the rehearsal into a performance . Sometimes good , sometimes bad. If It happened I would mentally write the session off immediately .

    • @factorylad5071
      @factorylad5071 Před 2 lety +1

      Yes because it was his turn to make a fool of himself.

    • @randyzeitman1354
      @randyzeitman1354 Před 2 lety +23

      You never hated Yoko? Perhaps you should learn about her.

    • @matthewcortez4706
      @matthewcortez4706 Před 2 lety +4

      She did break up the Beatles She tried to sing on a track it's documented Paul McCartney came out said it on Howard Stern she tried to see on the track the band told John some stuff about it and he wanted to break up the band after that that's just the way it is nobody really cares I haven't even watched that let it be documentary because I thought Let It Be sucked

    • @Ottophil
      @Ottophil Před 2 lety +11

      One clip? There are many. I don’t think shes evil. I don’t think she broke the band up. I’m pretty sure she just sucks at singing

  • @mojopin2000
    @mojopin2000 Před 2 lety +194

    What I learned watching “Get Back” was this:
    “The Beatles” broke up The Beatles. Being a Beatle was clearly exhausting and you can watch firsthand what that pressure looks like on all four of them.

    • @drdre4397
      @drdre4397 Před 2 lety +6

      Yes it seemed like years of small things all adding up.

    • @phillipemery572
      @phillipemery572 Před 2 lety +13

      When Hogg is chewing them out for not getting anything done, the apathy is palpable. They've been through so much, you almost feel as if they'd like to fail expectations for once just to feel some catharsis and be released from all that pressure.

    • @lpquagmire3621
      @lpquagmire3621 Před 2 lety +4

      My unpopular take...
      Should GET BACK really reshape history? The Fabs have long-maintained this was NOT a good time for the group, so while there may have been moments of frivolity we've hitherto been denied seeing, it was still a very tumultuous period for the band both personally and professionally; there were reasons none of them could bear to look at the footage. As a strictly commercial enterprise, (and let's be honest, why else get in bed with Disney?), putting a smiley face on a new narrative makes a lot of sense (and more accurately, dollars 😏), but is it truth or an opportunity to generate huge financial consequences? Say what you will about LET IT BE, but the graininess of the film footage and lapses in skilled editing was appropriate for a film starring people who simply couldn't stand being together anymore. Cleaned and scrubbed to modern day digital perfection, GET BACK is like an alternate universe rendition with cake and party hats for all...

    • @mojopin2000
      @mojopin2000 Před 2 lety +6

      @@lpquagmire3621 it’s a pragmatic take for sure. But we see something that history left out all these years, in fact it’s something I’d venture to guess that even The Beatles forgot about: they still loved making music together. Yes we’ve all been well versed in the acrimony at the end of their run, and the cracks that eventually created chasms are very evident in this film. Those cracks grew much larger because of the loss of Brian Epstein and the invitation offered to Alan Klein to take over managing them. Those things are briefly covered also in the film, but just as in real life in 1969, the cameras aren’t there for those business discussions.
      We’re also forgetting that without the passion of Peter Jackson, this film would still be rotting away in a vault. Did Ringo and Paul need cash? I think it’s more likely that Jackson really did convince them to give him access. If the surviving members didn’t like the finished product, I’m sure they would have shut it down. But they more realistically understood that they no longer need to be the vigilant gate keepers that they once may have been, and there’s a sense that they were just as excited to see that final chapter shared publicly at long last. I’m quite certain that “Get Back” had several small revelations for Paul and Ringo that they forgot over the half century since they broke up.
      But yes, our collective joy at experiencing this film may possibly cloud our judgment.
      But damn it feels good watching our young heroes make magic one final time in the studio and on that rooftop!

    • @phillipemery572
      @phillipemery572 Před 2 lety +6

      @@lpquagmire3621 I don't know if it re-writes history. It clarifies some things, though. It's pretty clear throughout that they aren't very happy and they want to be done as the Beatles. What's compelling about it is that there's very much a family feeling to it -- they want to get something done, for each other. They roll up their sleeves and make the best of it, even though they all know it's close to the end, and they don't have many more squeezes of the orange.

  • @Aaron628318
    @Aaron628318 Před 2 lety +93

    The thing that I always come back to is that you can argue about who was the dominant force or whatever, but I don't think it can be denied that there was a chemistry within the band that brought out more than the sum of the parts. They may have had successful solo careers, but it was the Beatles as a band - including George Martin - that combined to produce their groundbreaking work and huge impact.

    • @mattmorris2867
      @mattmorris2867 Před 2 lety

      Said millions of people already.

    • @noneofyourbeeswax01
      @noneofyourbeeswax01 Před 2 lety +2

      @@mattmorris2867 That's why it has resonance and truth. How meaningful would it be if only one person every said/thought that? This is what the Beatles evoke. Don't be mean.

    • @mattmorris2867
      @mattmorris2867 Před 2 lety +1

      @@noneofyourbeeswax01 it’s not mean. It’s just annoying how people will just keep repeating the same old opinions.

    • @k1ttyF158er
      @k1ttyF158er Před rokem +1

      @@noneofyourbeeswax01 To be fair, it's less a "resonance" than an accepted truth at this point, as profound a statement as; "people breath air" or "water is H2O". They're not really statements that "could be argued" (as stated) without being silly or ignorant of basic facts.

    • @k1ttyF158er
      @k1ttyF158er Před rokem

      In what reality has ANYONE EVER denied that the Beatles (along with George Martin) had a special "chemistry" or that it "combined to produce groundbreaking work" ??? People certainly knew this 56yrs ago when Sgt Pepper came out (1967) and have mourned it's loss since the last album, Let It Be in 1970. (Thousands of books & millions of magazine articles have stated this for 3 generations) - It's as profound a statement as "humans breath air".

  • @captainrisky6561
    @captainrisky6561 Před 2 lety +103

    A lot of people don't know that John & Yoko were right in the middle of their heroin period during let it be. Paul comes across as the driving force of let it be, mainly because John was probably a little withdrawn due to that. I understand why they don't mention it in the documentary but it was a pretty significant thing to leave out. I really wish there was a similar documentary for every album but we're really lucky we got this one.

    • @davidw9736
      @davidw9736 Před 2 lety +37

      It's clearly alluded to at one point, i think in the second part, where John says something about how he's been abusing his body and Paul asks him if he really wants to be talking about it with the cameras on.
      I'd definitely love a documentary like this for every album

    • @proudfootz
      @proudfootz Před 2 lety +23

      Yoko suffered a miscarriage just 40 days before the filming began. Not surprising John & Yoko wanted to be together.

    • @MrPlooky
      @MrPlooky Před 2 lety +4

      Disney

    • @noneofyourbeeswax01
      @noneofyourbeeswax01 Před 2 lety +5

      I was quite surprised by Paul's admission in the eavesdropped conversation between he and John that John has always been the boss and Paul the 2nd in command. It didn't seem to align with the dynamic we see play out in the studio so it's a very important insight into the relationships. What cones through in the documentary with crystal clarity is the special bond that Lennon and McCartney shared, sometimes to the exclusion of the other Beatles. As John remarked at one point (when they were singing "Two of Us", aptly) "It's like we're lovers".

    • @juliangiulio3147
      @juliangiulio3147 Před 2 lety +3

      John was not withdrawn at all. He was very involved, sharp, presently very aware! The last day, when they are drinking and recording the song Let it BE, did he seem a bit 'wasted'...
      But he was so full of life, joy, playfulness, more than EVER I'D SEEN! This is what was SO EVIDENT from the trailer...
      He also talks about getting really 'stoned' the night before... If you are on Smack, believe me, a pot adventure one night would not touch you! Nor would you bother to say anything about it!
      This is the facts, the evidence that we can see; what you have been told is clearly just a Rumour -and not that true!

  • @candelise
    @candelise Před 2 lety +102

    I love the idea that this documentary seems to be shattering a lot of people's pre-conceptions. Paul McCartney is actually really talented!! GASP!!!! Who on God's earth suddenly found this out? Whippersnappers most likely and anybody older should be doubly ashamed!!

    • @dannydorko7075
      @dannydorko7075 Před 2 lety +13

      I've seen so many comments saying George was the best songwriter in The Beatles. Idiots!

    • @Slydeil
      @Slydeil Před 2 lety +3

      @@dannydorko7075 Yeah, it's another populist bandwagon being jumped on without any foundation.
      Of course he developed into a great writer with "Something" (his greatest song IMHO), and had a good couple of years in 1968 to 1970, but his post ATMP output was patchy.
      Compare and contrast with the hundreds of classic songs from Lennon and McCartney.

    • @Rex-dk1rx
      @Rex-dk1rx Před 2 lety

      It isn't Paul McCartney it is his look a like who is the talented one .Paul McCartney died in a car crash in 1966. 😂😂

    • @Slydeil
      @Slydeil Před 2 lety +1

      @@Rex-dk1rx I think you need to get a life you troll.

    • @candelise
      @candelise Před 2 lety

      @@Rex-dk1rx Tee Hee!!

  • @dahliafiend
    @dahliafiend Před 2 lety +114

    The footage of Paul writing Get Back was a privilege to see. They were just a normal band for hours on end and then suddenly like a light switch turning on they became “The Beatles”. The way they flourished with an audience was something to behold. They really were a great live band as well as the obvious studio geniuses.

    • @queenhenry3314
      @queenhenry3314 Před 2 lety +8

      Not just a studio band. They were incredible live. Listen to the Star Club bootleg from ‘62. It’s absolutely incredible (side note: I lucky enough to have been gifted it on vinyl courtesy of ex). They’re playing at a lightning fast BPM (courtesy of amphetamines) and there’s not a flubbed note.
      It’s easy to dismiss them as a live act because Beatlemania hysteria drowns them out, but they were soooo good they played without being able to hear themselves, which I don’t know if you’re a musician or not, but not being able to hear yourself on stage is terrifying and disorienting. They did that in front of 30,000 shrieking fans, regularly.
      Anyways. I know you weren’t knocking them, I just don’t think they get enough credit as a live band from Beatles fans.

    • @jethrox827
      @jethrox827 Před 2 lety

      @Forensic Files: Paul McCartney Missing Since 1966 I play guitar and bass and am a huge Beatles fan and I can see there are a lot of anomalies in their ability and what Brian and Martin did for them, however people don't want to deal with the thought of anything being fake or the Billy thing. People want to believe in the Beatles and there is no stopping that.

    • @pifko87
      @pifko87 Před 2 lety +9

      @Forensic Files: Paul McCartney Missing Since 1966 Gonna take a wild punt on you being anti-vax 😆

    • @jethrox827
      @jethrox827 Před 2 lety

      @Forensic Files: Paul McCartney Missing Since 1966 i did already know that stuff but nice post anyway. I'm more interested in this, czcams.com/video/Wv8DDpteHUc/video.html
      Notice in the lead breaks and when there is any more difficult guitar picking in the songs, the camera is behind them, close up of the audience or close up to Ringo. I'm thinking they're purposely not showing George cause he can't play the lead breaks and they have someone over dubbing the harder guitar parts. I'd like to know which musicians are involved.

    • @sirlawrence9161
      @sirlawrence9161 Před 2 lety +1

      @Forensic Files: Paul McCartney Missing Since 1966 No. It's not.

  • @SteveDorrans
    @SteveDorrans Před rokem +12

    What I learned after years of half truths and misinformation was that Ringo was the total pro. He was always on time, always got involved in the process, seemed to be the most ego-free and didn't get involved in any of the drama.

  • @davidhollyfield5148
    @davidhollyfield5148 Před 2 lety +34

    They invented the flanger, reverse tape, using a harpsichord in a rock band, Using a symphonic orchestra in a rock song. They broke into America, which was very rare for UK bands. They just instigated so much. Yet another example; the drone through TNK and George introducing the sitar and tabla drums into western rock. And they were extremely versatile having grown in the post war years and being influenced by what passed for pop music back then until they were exposed to R&R. And it shows through in a lot of their songs along with Goon Show influences!

    • @7karlheinz
      @7karlheinz Před 2 lety +5

      ...and running other instruments thru the Leslie speaker in 1966 on the sessions for Tomorrow Only Knows. Check out Lewisohn's The Beatles Recording Sessions for a detailed studio diary/log of that historic event. One of my favorite things in Get Back is Lennon helping carry a Leslie into the studio.

    • @davidhollyfield5148
      @davidhollyfield5148 Před 2 lety +2

      @@7karlheinz Yep. The list is endless. They introduced us to so many sound FX, and they did them all manually in an analog studio! and I didn't see any synthesisers in any of these clips.
      Nowadays we all rely on our trusty pedals, but they were all developed to emulate studio sounds. Thanks to the boys from Liverpool. (and Eric, Jimi, Jimmy Page etc...)

    • @7karlheinz
      @7karlheinz Před 2 lety +3

      @@davidhollyfield5148 Didn't Get Back feature a B & W still photo of George and Ringo standing in front of George's Moog Series III modular synthesizer when it was in residence at EMI? It was used in 69' on Abbey Road. But that wasn't a historic first use (in pop music) of a synthesizer. Even the Monkee's (Star Collector) beat them by a couple of years! But of course, since it was the Beatles it was (at that time) a very tasteful use of the Moog, whereas, most early users of synths in the 1960s were enamored by the voltage control filter sweeps that produced silly sounding hyper-wah-wah effects.

    • @BigHenFor
      @BigHenFor Před 2 lety +2

      The Beatles weren't a rock band. They were a pop band. And there's nothing wrong with that.

    • @morbidmanmusic
      @morbidmanmusic Před 2 lety +3

      No, they didn't invent it. Lol.

  • @Bajannez
    @Bajannez Před 2 lety +77

    The thing stood out to me the most when watching Get Back was how empathetic and sensitive to others John also was. I already knew he was charismatic, passionate, confident, and full of absurdist humor. But I therefore also kind of assumed that he was more ego-driven and perhaps a bit cold. In the beginning of the second episode in the wake of George's exit, I was somewhat surprised to hear John speak of George's feelings with a high level of emotional intelligence. He continued displaying this empathy to everyone around him throughout the episodes. Needles to say, it was a side to Lennon that definitely did not make me love the guy any less!

    • @meadish
      @meadish Před 2 lety +12

      John took the piss out of everything, including himself and his own songs.

    • @waynej2608
      @waynej2608 Před 2 lety +7

      @@buckminsterowski That's nonsense. Why tf would George play on John's solo album, Imagine, if that were the case. Or invite him to play at the Bangladesh concert, etc.

    • @neilpemberton5523
      @neilpemberton5523 Před 2 lety +8

      @@buckminsterowski That's crap. George hated the way Yoko distracted John from the group, but it was Paul who really annoyed him. Paul's ego drove him to double-down on his second-rate songs like Ob la de obl la da and ignore the great songs George was starting to write.

    • @brigwood7658
      @brigwood7658 Před 2 lety +4

      yeah, me too. he seemed really happy, fun loving and .. well nice! and him an paul often looked at each other with so much warmth. i always saw him as more sarcastic, kind of 'defensive, demeaning of others, and annoyingly opinionated. quite an eye opener

    • @flewawayandaway4763
      @flewawayandaway4763 Před 2 lety +2

      @@neilpemberton5523 don't forget Maxwell's silver hammer...Just think that Paul recorded things as awful as "Why don't we do it in the road" and "Honey pie" and Lennon did a pointless 9 minute "Revolution 9" (which nobody ever listens)on the white album but both of them didn't pay enough attention to a great masterpiece like "While my guitar gently weeps" ...that's why George had to bring Eric Clapton in

  • @davedavem
    @davedavem Před 2 lety +88

    Paul McCartney answers the Yoko Ono question in the doc: "a band doesn't split up because some guy's bird sits on an amp".

    • @danielaf1487
      @danielaf1487 Před 2 lety +2

      Excellent!

    • @mojorisen7812
      @mojorisen7812 Před 2 lety +1

      It helps though

    • @martinheath5947
      @martinheath5947 Před 2 lety +1

      Depends if she leaks or not

    • @Axess-sv8nq
      @Axess-sv8nq Před 2 lety +4

      Well, it would be if that bird was a Cockatoo! Those things can be nasty at the drop of a hat. And they bite HARD!

    • @MarcusMIDI
      @MarcusMIDI Před 2 lety

      Such a great quote 😀👌👍💪

  • @mindhead2005
    @mindhead2005 Před 2 lety +14

    I didn’t know about the miscarriage at that time.
    Every word you said, I agree with.
    “If John Lennon loved her, why don’t you love her?”
    Fantastic

  • @Chriswatney
    @Chriswatney Před 2 lety +64

    People’s seeming surprise at McCartneys genius is the most extraordinary thing isn’t it!? It’s like what rock has everyone been living under?! What do people actually do behind closed doors?? Because they sure as hell haven’t been listening to the Beatles if they’ve just worked this out…! 🤦‍♂️

    • @stuartcarden1371
      @stuartcarden1371 Před 2 lety +13

      Agreed! They just get caught up in the anti mccartney nonsense that the cool kids always spout. The man is a genuine genius!

    • @TheAlibabatree
      @TheAlibabatree Před 2 lety +8

      I figured it has always been well understood that the main genius of the Beatles was the competitive love between Lennon and Mccartney.

    • @BrendanJohnDoherty
      @BrendanJohnDoherty Před 2 lety +2

      Chris, it's not that people have been living under a rock. It's that this documentary has bought to the fold just how talented and hard working McCartney was. Peter Jackson has masterfully educated all of us and also shown how actually close they all were.

    • @davidburke2132
      @davidburke2132 Před 2 lety +6

      Paul McCartney made the career/reputational mistake of not dying.
      I don’t mean to flippant or disrespectful to the tragedy of Lennon’s murder, but it’s a serious point. Artists who survive into middle and old age invariably make creative “mistakes”, lose some edge as they get older, especially if they’ve had a lot of commercial success, etc. If Lennon had still been with us now I’m sure he would have had similar reputational effects as has Sir Paul… same with the likes of Hendrix (vs Clapton for example), Tupac, Cobain, Buddy Holly, etc.

    • @hw343434
      @hw343434 Před 2 lety +2

      @@davidburke2132 nah man, Paul McCartney just had a solo career that can be described in one word: CHEESE. That’s just reality, of course he had a couple great solo albums and some good songs scattered but most of his solo albums come with a generous side of cheese. It’s just not up to the quality of a legend. Lennon didn’t go that low

  • @lindseyd1208
    @lindseyd1208 Před 2 lety +16

    You’re always considerate and thoughtful with your takes on music and life. You are a sweetheart Justin ❤️ and one hell of a musician 🤘

  • @TheDinnermoney
    @TheDinnermoney Před 2 lety +6

    The scene where Peter Sellers pops in for an awkward few minutes is interesting. I would swear the three Beatles are tripping on acid. Paul has regressed to childhood smirking and giggling, Ringo has 'gone inside' and pretends to be asleep whilst John has become the messiah of the moment and free-associates directly into the camera, all while Peter Sellers smiles awkawardly before a quick 'righty-ho chaps I'd best be orf' and heads off in the wrong direction. Pure gold nuggets!

  • @crazyandcraftysatyam935
    @crazyandcraftysatyam935 Před 2 lety +36

    Love your commentary. Would love to hear your thoughts on Moon Walker and Inhaler. Loved the Idles video

  • @millywinter
    @millywinter Před 2 lety +18

    I put off watching this in the fear that we would disagree and that you were going to say it was too long and boring. But PHEW - I totally agree with everything you said. I found the pissing about inspiring too. I particularly loved seeing all the other characters from the Bealtes story, like Malc Evans and Billy Preston come to life. The references to 'Mr Epstein' made it clear to me that it was his death that signalled the wind down of the Beatles.

  • @carl1812ify
    @carl1812ify Před 2 lety +9

    Well said Justin. you have explained and said what i could not express to so many people over the years of just how much the Beatles were a massive influence to the world, in not only there music but also the dress sense culture they inspired too. They were quite simply a breath of fresh air to the music world

  • @thebouncinghearts
    @thebouncinghearts Před 2 lety +61

    My perception of John Lennon was also changed dramatically after watching the documentary...I found the whole thing fascinating, inspiring, and heart-warming. Nice to hear your take on it Justin.

    • @CodyAlushin
      @CodyAlushin Před 2 lety +11

      He and Yoko were both on heroine during this time as well… which I found VERY interesting while watching.

    • @thebouncinghearts
      @thebouncinghearts Před 2 lety +8

      @@CodyAlushin Yes, I think this was quite apparent during the first early recordings at Twickenham, though his (and everybody's) demeanor seemed much lighter following the move to Savile Row...Hope the Get Back documentary comes out on DVD, being a Beatle nut I could watch it again and again.

    • @vincevirtua
      @vincevirtua Před 2 lety +5

      Yeah, John was loose af, didn't bring a lot of tunes to the session, and was kind of the one dossing in takes the most. Clearly medicated for some of it.

    • @somethingbl
      @somethingbl Před 2 lety +13

      @@vincevirtua That's really not true. He brought Dig a Pony, Across the Universe, One After 909, Don't Let Me Down, The Ballad Of John and Yoko, I Want You all to the session. Paul brought Two Of Us, Let It Be, Teddy Boy, Oh! Darling, and The Long and Winding Road (Get Back was written in studio). Pretty much even.

    • @somethingbl
      @somethingbl Před 2 lety +2

      @@vincevirtua That's really not true. He brought Dig a Pony, Across the Universe, One After 909, I Want You, Don't Let Me Down, and The Ballad Of John and Yoko. Paul brought Two Of Us, Let It Be, The Long and Winding Road, Teddy Boy, Oh! Darling. Others were co-written or written in studio. Pretty much even.

  • @ROOKTABULA
    @ROOKTABULA Před 2 lety +12

    I thought it was great to be hanging out with such creative folks in a recording studio and seeing well known tracks being constructed. It's inspired me, after waaay too many years of self doubt, to allow me to return to recording (which I did without a thought whilst releasing albums in the 90s).

  • @appetitefordeconstruction
    @appetitefordeconstruction Před 2 lety +22

    Loved the doco and 100% respect the Beatles as artists. Totally agree on the Yoko thing, people need to get over it. Bands break up all the time. I'm not a Lennon fan in terms of his treatment of women in general but you can't deny talent. The Beatles were a force.

    • @christiancarruthers635
      @christiancarruthers635 Před 2 lety +2

      His so called treatment of women issue is a little unfair. It's part of a "woke" revision of his life based on his unflinching honesty of his own mistakes . What you have to take into consideration is he strived to get away from those traditions of male behaviour and while he did so he talked about it in the open . Everyone else during that era didn't mention it.

    • @appetitefordeconstruction
      @appetitefordeconstruction Před 2 lety +3

      @@christiancarruthers635 I don't think I'm being unfair when I say I'm not a fan of hitting women, regardless of whether somebody owns up to it or not. Or violence towards anybody's partner for that matter. Not that I should have to defend my stance on that at all. You're entitled to your opinion 100%, but I'll keep my own 🙂

  • @DamianKeyes
    @DamianKeyes Před 2 lety +6

    The apple edits are hilarious! Love this video and loving the channel Justin!

  • @edringo9442
    @edringo9442 Před 2 lety +6

    This is so thoughtful Justin. Thank you. You have, particularly done a great service to Yoko's legacy.

  • @anitafayes8967
    @anitafayes8967 Před 2 lety +2

    Lovely and wise thoughts about a legendary band, thanks for this :) ...I also enjoyed the layers with the apple, the shininess of your zip and referring us to that Pat Carty article. He is a great writer!

  • @GaryStockton
    @GaryStockton Před 2 lety +4

    I've been thinking about it a lot since watching, had several dreams about the Beatles, and "I got a feeling" constantly on my brain. If you haven't heard Marc Maron's WTF podcast interview with Peter Jackson, I highly recommend it, he offers a lot of additional details about how the film was made, why they made the decisions they did in the edit. I think Peter Jackson has given every Beatles fan out there an amazing gift. As he puts it, he wanted "Get Back" to be like traveling in a time machine to January 1969 with The Beatles in the studio. How they came up with songs, the interplay and creative competition between them, and that undeniable bond. They were amazing, there will never be another group like The Beatles. Thank you for sharing your perspective, I had expected something else when I clicked on your video, but I concur with many of your points, particularly the one about Yoko.

  • @thealeons3179
    @thealeons3179 Před 2 lety +3

    You are so well-spoken and well- thought. Where did you learn to speak and think like this? I feel like you look out all of the windows before you try to explain to us what's going on in the neighborhood. All too often, people try to tell us what's going on after only looking out one tiny little window. I think you're a super awesome human and I look forward to your future videos. Thank you.

  • @liamshevill3705
    @liamshevill3705 Před 2 lety +7

    Absolutely agree with everything youve said there, i feel like it was so lovely especially to see that they hadnt become the weird stereotypes that theyre portrayed as now and were definitely still 4 proper lads from liverpool, and that clearly even through the professional disagreements about the band they still had a very brotherhood type of bond, ive loved it but also yeah like people have said, wow Paul McCartney - what a machine, but George was definitely the one i want to have been friends with the most what a guy

  • @paulgill2042
    @paulgill2042 Před 2 lety +2

    It's very inspiring. I haven't played in a band for a number of years and it made me nostalgic for pissing about, writing songs with your mates. I loved it!

  • @StevenTwoTwo
    @StevenTwoTwo Před 2 lety +31

    McCartney is such a legend. One of my biggest bass inspirations (some of his basslines are brilliant), a great songwriter, a great singer on his day and a really good pianist too. There are not many better all round musicians than him throughout the course of history tbh.
    So glad you're a Beatles fan Justin 👍

  • @victoria.galvin
    @victoria.galvin Před 2 lety +3

    I love so many things about the documentary. The details, the clothes, the yellow daffodils, the coffee cups, the people circulating in and out. My favorite was the day that Heather (Linda’s daughter) came and seeing all the Beatles interact with her. Just wonderful to see as a lifelong fan.

  • @SpindlyScoudrel
    @SpindlyScoudrel Před 2 lety +21

    Imagine we had a similar film from their earlier days - say around Hard days night - to compare and contrast how their dynamic changed over time!

    • @Chris-rp9df
      @Chris-rp9df Před 2 lety +2

      Or the entirety of the 12 hour session to record the 1st album?

  • @ENigma-um8zw
    @ENigma-um8zw Před 2 lety +4

    As a Beatles fan since I could remember, was about 3-4 years old I grew up with loved Listening to the Beatles and it delights me to no end as a lifelong fan that the band is yet again seeing a resurgence in popularity and reappraisal for their incredible and indelible effect on popular music and culture to this day

  • @seemourbutts6679
    @seemourbutts6679 Před 2 lety +3

    You’re a legend mate. Love the channel and I’ve got right back into your music again. Keep it real!!!

  • @salmonesque
    @salmonesque Před 2 lety +20

    Loved Get Back for the simple reason of seeing the magic happening in front of my eyes. Four of the greatest lovers of songs and songwriting getting down to the task at hand (which involved a lot of pissing about), working at their craft and perfecting their choons.
    I agree that they all knew it was coming to an end but their respect for each other's songs and the writing and getting the best band performance to tape was incredible to watch. And the love that was there too. And Billy Preston arriving and glueing it all together.
    I'm so glad and satisfied that Peter Jackson made this movie. Fcuking outstanding entertainment for Beatles fans and music fans in general. It's an incredible historical document of a very special event brought to life
    McCartney pulling Get Back out of the air ... Jealous Guy as 'Road to Marrakesh' (?) ... "Wur oan oor way hame" ... Ritchie's brilliant drumming and patience ... Tank Tops ...

  • @redadamearth
    @redadamearth Před 2 lety +30

    As Kurt Cobain once said, and I'm paraphrasing a bit, here, "There was the Beatles - and every other group after that has basically been a Beatles cover band."

    • @71hammyman
      @71hammyman Před 2 lety +7

      @ghost mall no they weren't

    • @71hammyman
      @71hammyman Před 2 lety

      @ghost mall yes sure, I gave myself two thumbs up, didn't even give myself one you freak 🤣

    • @71hammyman
      @71hammyman Před 2 lety +2

      @ghost mall around that time, in the 90s it was most definitely radiohead, music for everyone, Nirvana were great but they were pretty one dimensional, even Oasis were more of the beatles of its generation, Nirvana no.

    • @71hammyman
      @71hammyman Před 2 lety +1

      @ghost mall radiohead certainly ticks all of those boxes, I only mentioned Oasis because if they were as big in the states then yes they probably would have been it, let's just agree to disagree, Nirvana were massive, so were radiohead, I just think personally as someone who grew up in the UK around that time, radiohead were more creative and appealed to a much wider audience than Nirvana did.

    • @KratosM4000
      @KratosM4000 Před 2 lety +1

      @@71hammyman honestly Radiohead is better than nirvana but nirvana was way more impactful. If you look at the 2000s Radio rock scene everyone was trying to be grunge like nirvana. Plus Radiohead on a massive general public scale was the song creep and not much else

  • @lavenderchants6014
    @lavenderchants6014 Před 2 lety +4

    I agree with everything you said.
    As a kid, I was a fan of Wings before I even realized that Paul was a Beatle, which I considered my mother's music. It was not until I was a teenager in the late 70's that I discovered the full catalog of Beatles music, which I adore. Each member brings something important to the band, but clearly Paul was the musical genius that understood advanced songwriting.
    As a self-taught guitarist/singer/songwriter myself, I struggled to learn (over many years) the level of music theory that makes it possible to even understand the things that Paul did with song structure. In the meantime, I wrote songs much like everyone else (with no real clue), and not at all like Paul. So, now that I finally understand the music theory, I can appreciate the struggle that Paul is clearly going through with trying to collaborate with the other guys, who (though they are the other Beatles) are not on his level.
    John is more comfortable it seems, likely because of the many years that he had been Paul's main writing partner.
    I can also appreciate George's frustration because he is trying to create his own parts to the others' songs and submit his own songs for consideration, but he is struggling with not being on Paul's level, and it is to his credit that he came back and stuck it out, and that many of his songs are still among the best Beatles songs.
    As for Yoko, I remember being confused by the hate that went around back in the day, as I was too young to notice the band break up, but I loved all of the John Lennon solo stuff a lot, which she was obviously a part of.
    Paul makes it clear in the film that she was not the reason they were breaking up, and besides that, Linda was present as much as Yoko, but nobody ever accused her of breaking up the band. In fact, she went on to become an important part of Wings.
    Again, my experience as the main songwriter for a band is all I have to compare with, but I remember our practices and even many songwriting sessions being almost like a party thanks to all the people that were interested in what we were doing. And we never wanted to drive everyone off because we had a guaranteed crowd ready to fill any bar or coffee shop.
    So, I just got used to being creative in a sea of chaos. I just thought of myself as like the eye of the storm, and the only people I needed to worry about were the other musicians. I would have loved to have someone like George in my band. Of course, I wasn't trying to write Paul McCartney level songs either. It's truly a gift to be able to watch all this footage of these young guys writing some of the best songs ever written!
    Keep up the good work. I truly love your videos!

    • @hw343434
      @hw343434 Před 2 lety

      For advanced songwriting I would defer to John over Paul- “ strawberry fields Forever”, “ I am the walrus”, “ happiness is a warm gun”, “ across the universe”, “Julia”, “#9 Dream”, etc… That’s advanced songwriting with unique original chord progressions, time signature changes, modulations & key changes, deceptive cadences, profound lyrics, revolutionary arrangements and production, the whole LOT. Paul wrote beautiful timeless melodies and some great chord progressions and arrangement ideas but was much more conventional & predictable in his songwriting than John

    • @ewest14
      @ewest14 Před 2 lety

      @@hw343434 you’re so boring with all the Paul hate. Do you ever do anything else but talk shit about Paul on CZcams?

  • @loveluvmusic
    @loveluvmusic Před 2 lety +3

    I loved it.. I will forever love the Beatles, And each of their solo careers. ESPECIALLY a huge Lennon and
    Mc Cartney Fan. Loved your take on this 💯 Justin 🖤

  • @grelch
    @grelch Před 2 lety +5

    I amazed by just how many songs from other artists they knew, and knew really well, when they were pissing about. They had access to so much music in their brains that they could pull from, probably unconsciously. I was really humbled by watching this group of people work.

    • @BaxterThewall
      @BaxterThewall Před 2 lety +1

      Like most bands, they began doing covers... especially in the Hamburg days when they played four-five hours a night.

  • @Axess-sv8nq
    @Axess-sv8nq Před 2 lety +20

    I loved watching it because it reminded me of being in bands and being at practice - and in the studio. All the camaraderie, fooling around, ego battles, differences of ideas, the rest - it seemed VERY VERY familiar. On the Yoko thing, I used to think it was her that caused the tension. But, the tension was there well before she got there. It was also a different time back then. People were a bit freer with their sense of community and especially when they got together in groups. All-in-all it was a very enjoyable watch.

  • @stevebendelack3935
    @stevebendelack3935 Před rokem

    Love hearing this from you Justin.You really encapsulate how i and millions of other human beings feel about the Beatles,their music and their impact on so many levels.I found these three films completely compelling.Like you i love all four…but Paul has always been my fave[even though it is close].Best thing about the films really was the ‘pissing about”,it was endless,brilliant,and productive.In Three Weeks!Amazing,wonderful!!Thanks Justin,love your view.As ever.

  • @garyarnold3141
    @garyarnold3141 Před 2 lety

    I love your channel. I'm old enough to remember the beatles break up and the old Get Back film. It was a huge relief to see a more complete picture. The controversy about Yoko will never go away. John was the 'best' beatle :)

  • @graniteman62
    @graniteman62 Před 2 lety +9

    George Harrison had been taken more serious as a writer by Paul, John and George Martin and they had supported maybe Beatles lasted longer. Just my opinion

  • @DavidJGreenwood
    @DavidJGreenwood Před 2 lety +8

    As a lifelong Beatles nut, I found the doc eye opening. Not only was it totally binge worthy, it put lot of long held mistruths to bed (John punching George in the studio. Yoko as a disruptive energy. George’s walk out etc…). . Almost enjoyed it as much as this video, Justin. Your apple fondling is mesmerising. You have a new sub here.

  • @rog86
    @rog86 Před 2 lety +1

    Theyve split up?! Cheers for the spolier!
    Loved this vid. Always felt the same for Yoko, and you put it perfectly....if John loved her, why dont you. Would we have had any of the incredible lennon solo songs without yoko? I doubt of wed have had any

  • @samsmith4216
    @samsmith4216 Před 2 lety

    Actually a really well thought out and empathetic take on a group I've loved since seeing them on Ed Sullivan back in '64. Thank you... and Paul was always my favorite as a kid... John as I got older.

  • @drhust1955
    @drhust1955 Před 2 lety +10

    I know John created some good songs in the late sixties. However, I think after Rubber Soul, he was ready to leave the band.There we’re all kind of rumors about the Beatles breaking up and then I heard a new song on the radio 📻 Penny Lane.’

  • @joeparish4989
    @joeparish4989 Před 2 lety +6

    My favorite was always John. He was the heart and soul of the Beatles. He started the group and unfortunately, he ended it. As a songwriter, between the three main ones, I always felt John's songs were more intimate and honest and creative. I thought he was the best vocalist in the group but then again, the blending of John and Paul's vocals was one of the intangibles that made the Beatles so special. When the three of them sang harmony, they were incredible.
    A plus in Paul's favor was that he was always the workaholic. He got them to produce some incredible things but it was obvious that Lennon, the nominal leader of the band and Harrison, who probably resented his controlling tendencies, were not going to accept his dominance.
    I think this really shows in their solo years in the 70's, when all four were alive. Paul never stopped. He was used to being number one with the Beatles and he would continue to try to be number one without them. A huge body of work and I have a huge respect for Sir Paul. John went on a different path and tried to come to terms with the demons that made him such a compelling figure in the band and in pop culture as a whole. He was, ironically, a victim of his fame.
    I think they probably would have gotten back together but it most likely would have been a mistake because they would of become a sad reflection of their 60's selves, much like the Stones became after about 1980.
    Anyway...just the ramblings of a fans since the late 60's....I remember when Hey Jude was released and was number one. I was quite young though....I barely remember :) Cheers. I enjoyed your thoughts.

  • @bradbennett9970
    @bradbennett9970 Před 2 lety

    Spot on! Wont disagree with a single thing said here man! And may i add how much of a gent you yourself are. I was part of mainstage security at Ynot fest 2013 when you done the walk through the crowd on our shoulders in the sickening mud, you guys were fantastic. And you left me your surplus rider items on leaving which helped my weekend immensely. Haha. Big love ✌

  • @MurfsYT13
    @MurfsYT13 Před 2 lety +1

    I’m glad he finally took a bite of the apple. Very satisfying. The documentary was great also

  • @Downhuman74
    @Downhuman74 Před 2 lety +5

    I used to bag on Ringo like everyone else. Then I became an actual drummer and realized just how brilliant he is. A Day in the Life? Come on! That groove he lays down on Come Together -- brilliant. One of the most vitally important drummers of all time.
    Speaking of drummers -- was it awkward when your drummer saw that you have a tattoo of his dad on your knuckles?

    • @JustinHawkinsRidesAgain
      @JustinHawkinsRidesAgain  Před 2 lety +5

      Yeah it’s ok but maybe it freaked him out. He needs to get my dad on his otherwise it isn’t fair

    • @Downhuman74
      @Downhuman74 Před 2 lety

      @@JustinHawkinsRidesAgain 😂

  • @Musical_Man_Guitar
    @Musical_Man_Guitar Před 2 lety +4

    My take was, it was just nice to see them again in their primes and enjoying themselves. Oh and gratitude for the music but that goes without saying!

  • @sam-lt9dq
    @sam-lt9dq Před 2 lety

    I watched a few reviews of the documentary but your review is way different and genuine I like your style. Thanks

  • @Rickenbackerglory
    @Rickenbackerglory Před 2 lety

    A Beatles fanatic since 1963. Saw them live 10 times, and I am half way through my 3rd viewing of “Get Back”. I have read so many crappy views and reviews of it but I absolutely agree with every word you say. So many amazing moments.

  • @mikedonovan4768
    @mikedonovan4768 Před 2 lety +3

    Agreed, Live and Let Die is class A quality, and I'm not even a McCartney fan. While we are on the subject one of my favourite Christmas tunes is Pipes of Peace.

  • @markhammer643
    @markhammer643 Před 2 lety +3

    I have not watched it, because we don't get that service, but the snippets I've seen on CZcams remind me of the most fun I'd had at band practice, so many years ago. Gigs are great, but there is something special about a really good band practice when things come together (no pun intended).
    One of the more interesting theories is that Yoko sat in on the sessions to make sure John was there, implying maybe he didn't want to be. If true, that would mean Yoko is partly responsible for *providing* "Get Back", rather than preventing it or breaking anything up.

  • @rainbowlove1967
    @rainbowlove1967 Před 2 lety

    Excellent reviews by Justin and Pat.
    Sensitive and Insightful.
    I hope this beautiful gift to Beatles fans has shone the light of truth on misconceptions. Especially regarding the women who inspired and nurtured them 🙏🕊❤️

  • @batesblues
    @batesblues Před 2 lety +1

    You're unpopular opinion is spot on in my book. I agree with everything you said. I gotta admit I wasn't familiar with you're career or Darkness ( I listen to old music, lol) but you have a new fan.
    Great job.

  • @canadianstudmuffin
    @canadianstudmuffin Před 2 lety +6

    Best review of the documentary! Yoko was great and I love alot of her music.

  • @banjoist123
    @banjoist123 Před 2 lety +3

    Those were 3 or 4 extremely creative, driven, perhaps arrogant but brilliant people in one band. That they lasted as long as they did is amazing.

    • @mikeshinoda703
      @mikeshinoda703 Před 2 lety

      Im not sure that they were arrogant. When you hear from other musicians they always say they were very easy to get on with but there was an aura around them.

  • @MB-en3do
    @MB-en3do Před 2 lety

    Well that was a great perspective. I'm a life long Beatles fan who has read countless books and articles and has a considerable Beatles vinyl collection. Having said all of that, I really appreciated your perspective on John inviting Yoko into the sessions. I should thank you... I do thank you

  • @goldenox7896
    @goldenox7896 Před 2 lety +2

    Totally agree with everything, although the Yoko thing really played out later on at the recording of Abbey Road. She had had an accident so John had a double bed set up in the actual studio where she lay about all day and had visitors and minions drop by each day, much to the increasing ire of the other band members and crew. It was at this point that Yoko became a factor of any quantity, both Paul and George referred to this moment as such in later interviews.
    In my opinion they broke themselves up, over the space of less than a year they had written and recorded the White Album, Let it Be and Abbey Road. I can only imagine how intense and exhausting it was. Mind blowing!

  • @johnbarry1965
    @johnbarry1965 Před 2 lety +14

    Yoko came out of this doc really well. She was pretty much unobtrusive and was totally not the overbearing monster of yore.

    • @loosilu
      @loosilu Před 2 lety +1

      This is a year after the White Album sessions, where her presence created huge problems. Paul says he had to work very hard to cope with it. This documentary is very misleading in that rregard. To be clear, I do not blame Yoko at all. She was being herself. John made the choice to bring her in, and I personally think he did it deliberately.

    • @shapes2000
      @shapes2000 Před 2 lety +2

      It has been heavily edited, a lot of the more controversial and anti Yoko stuff that was in the original film and available on tapes is not included in the film.

    • @mariaconcilio5910
      @mariaconcilio5910 Před 2 lety

      not really. She is still not a good person a bad influence on Lennon and was horrible to Julian Lennon she did not need to be.

    • @TotalSinging
      @TotalSinging Před 2 lety

      She became more obtrusive during Abbey Road when a Lennon brought a bed into the studio and gave her a microphone so she could contribute to group discussions.

    • @TotalSinging
      @TotalSinging Před 2 lety

      Yoko wasn't overbearing in the studio and George Martin would not have stood for it. Her overbearing influence was at home

  • @hkpr-ro6ui
    @hkpr-ro6ui Před 2 lety +3

    I thought you were going to ruin my love of this film with "unpopular opinions" yet I agree with everything you say. Great show at Victoria Hall BTW.

  • @wokeupandsmellthecoffee214

    Actually as a Liverpudlian and self confessed Beatles nut I found this mega documentary absolutely fucking awesome ! Subbed you Justin man, peace and love ❤️

  • @1satisfiedmind
    @1satisfiedmind Před 2 lety

    Justin, i never heard about the miscarriage before, and your angle about the devastation is true, and right, and speculating on why John may have had her near makes sence. Paul was my favorite Beatle in a post Beatles world, but as a band, I didnt have a favorite, per-se, i loved what each brought to the table...the sum of the parts, and loved each song as a Beatles song. I have the Beatles discography and all of Paul's records from the 70's , but only George, John, and Ringo's "Greatest Hits". Man, i smiled the whole way through that film. It gave us all the privilege of being a fly on the wall in an important period of music history.

  • @brianp4438
    @brianp4438 Před 2 lety +6

    The only slightly negative feelings I came away from the series with was regarding how dismissive they were of some of George's contributions. But then again, he got to go ahead and do them the way he wanted to on All Things Must Pass, which is one of the greatest records of all time.

    • @SimonJohnOwen
      @SimonJohnOwen Před 2 lety +1

      Also George wrote the best Beatles song ever, Here Comes the Sun

  • @waynesmith4589
    @waynesmith4589 Před 2 lety +12

    Great Video Justin , I think the elephant in the room is Paul McCartney was the overwhelming driving force behind the Beatles , I also think George Harrison’s contribution is grossly underestimated , in a Paul McCartney interview he said George was not a good songwriter initially but learnt quickly culminating in gems like Something ( Frank Sinatra’s favourite ) , Taxman , While my guitar gently weeps .

    • @69birdboy
      @69birdboy Před 2 lety +9

      Only in the latter half. Lennon was going through withdrawal on get back.
      Without Lennon , the Beatles would not have been half as interesting . Strawberry Fields forever. Says it all

  • @foofy14
    @foofy14 Před 2 lety

    Hi, Justin (and anybody who may be able to assist me). Bit of a random one, but your recent videos have inspired me to re-visit music theory and songwriting with more purpose. I've been a musician for around 10 years, went to college and uni for it, however I haven't retained much info on theory and compositional techniques etc. Do you have any good book recommendations at all? Love from the wall of corn in the south

  • @mattc2320
    @mattc2320 Před 2 lety +1

    Been a massive fan since Permission to Land, this channel is a blessing

  • @craigtyler7335
    @craigtyler7335 Před 2 lety +65

    It shattered my preconceptions about Paul. I always heard that the other Beatles had got tired of him being the ‘self appointed boss’ of the group. This gave me images of him being overbearing and ‘bossy’. However, watching ‘Get Back’ made me realise he was a driving force. It looked like he was the only one who could be arsed to get the songs done really. George came across a little bitter in all honesty, and John came across as bit distant and disillusioned. From accounts that I have heard or seen John was the ‘boss’ during the Beatles early days, but I think the dynamic changed a bit during the mid to late Beatles when Paul was into the avant-garde stuff and helped the Beatles become more experimental. The rest as they say is history. Paul deserved his place at the top in my opinion, even if it did lead to the recording of some ‘fruity’ songs.

    • @keithwilson1554
      @keithwilson1554 Před 2 lety +3

      Ringo said that the reason they did so many songs was because of Paul McCartneys work ethic. He was living closest to the Studio and would soak up the Swinging London scene bringing in the latest sounds. But i did see a stage Q & A of Billy Preston who said John was the Boss.

    • @Tsuka-bn8hq
      @Tsuka-bn8hq Před 2 lety +18

      George seemed bitter? Really? He just came across as incredibly frustrated. Listen to all the great tunes on All Things Must Pass… to think he had all that swirling in his head and around his fingers and had to settle for 1/2 songs per album? How else could he feel. The conversation he had with John about wanting to do his solo thing and come back ‘home’ was him being honest and searching for contentment. It’s our opinions at the end of the day though 😊

    • @thekitowl
      @thekitowl Před 2 lety +13

      @@Tsuka-bn8hq don’t think it was a great time for George. His marriage was in big trouble & when he walked out he went to Liverpool to see
      his mum who had cancer.

    • @Fred.pSonic
      @Fred.pSonic Před 2 lety +2

      You make a lot of great points Craig but during that cafeteria scene Paul admitted that John was still "boss", the brotherhood never changed but it did with some of the public. You're also right that without Paul pushing the band we would have lost out on so much historic music, maybe ending as early as Rubber Soul. But unfortunately I really think it was Paul being too bossy that broke up the band. Consider that Abbey Road was never intended as a final album. They discussed a followup where each member would get their own songs: four songs from John Paul and George each with Ringo maybe getting two. Still recording as The Beatles but no Lennon/McCartney compositions. Paul was dismissive of George's writing abilities, George took an affront and you can guess where it went from there. In later years George would continue to disparage Paul and they looked a little uncomfortable together during Anthology. Fascinating story: ultimateclassicrock.com/beatles-abbey-road-follow-up/

    • @majinblood6133
      @majinblood6133 Před 2 lety +1

      Yea cause the real paul died.

  • @michaelespinosa9168
    @michaelespinosa9168 Před 2 lety +4

    All you need is love ❤️ and give peace a chance. Pretty much the meaning of life. Rest In Peace ✌️ John and George

  • @chrisball3248
    @chrisball3248 Před 2 lety +1

    I agree with every word of this. I thought it was lovely how the band were with one of the band's daughters and how she was aping Yoko when she got on the mike. It was so adorable. I thought Ringo and John came out of particularly well too.

  • @TJjjjjjjjjjj
    @TJjjjjjjjjjj Před 2 lety

    Justin my friend you need your own radio or talk back show. I always find your take rather interesting whether I agree with it or not. We need more people like you in every conversation

  • @C_H_1972
    @C_H_1972 Před 2 lety +3

    Justin your take is spot on. The popular opinion that John was the better Beatle bc he wrote edgier songs is BS. While watching the Doc, I thought to myself that people would finally realize Paul’s equal value to the Beatles equation. Thank you for recognizing Paul’s excellent solo work. I love both John and Paul and George and Ringo were crucial as well. Yoko doesn’t fit into my Beatles equation. She’s just there. I don’t care that she was. If that’s what John needed, then so be it. It’s not like they had a normal 9-5 job anyway. Conforming was not a priority. Was it weird? Yup! However, John was weird and it somehow fit for him. The conventional British wife and kid didn’t work unfortunately for Cynthia and Julian. My criticism of the documentary is the ending is anticlimactic. The multi camera presentation of the rooftop concert ruined the ending for me. I wanted that concert to be a kick ass experience. A 4K uninterrupted tour de force. The multi point of view presentation ruined the awesome concert that it was. At the very least, put out a 4th episode with a cleaned up single point of view presentation of the concert for us to enjoy!

  • @alisonanthony1228
    @alisonanthony1228 Před 2 lety +42

    On the Yoko question, my feeling has always been that she made John happy and that's good enough for me. He loved her and that's all any of us need to know. All the rest is just gossip and bullsh*t and, quite frankly, none of our business.

    • @niclasjohansson5992
      @niclasjohansson5992 Před 2 lety +3

      Accept for the John Lennon - Chuck Berry Co-op where Yoko screeched right in to a microphone while Chuck and her husband are playing a berry classic

    • @mojorisen7812
      @mojorisen7812 Před 2 lety +9

      Amy decent woman would not cling to man like that while he's trying to work. All the other women respected what was happening but not yoko. Testament of her character. She also made Julian buy his own dad's stuff back. Not a good woman.

    • @PrivateSi
      @PrivateSi Před 2 lety +1

      I know there are billions of sheeple out there, but I cannot understand these so called fans that think their false idols should always be the way they idolise them to be, as an Atheist!

    • @niclasjohansson5992
      @niclasjohansson5992 Před 2 lety +1

      @@PrivateSi only lame atheists preface things 'as an atheist'

    • @lamper2
      @lamper2 Před 2 lety +1

      Of COURSE it's my business if i'm evaluating the worthiness of a band and someone is making them less wonderful

  • @dankourny
    @dankourny Před 2 lety

    This was fucking awesome. I've watched 4 of your Justin Hawkins Rides Again vids today and I think you just shot up to #1 on my musical personality to follow list. Love it.

  • @phinsxiii
    @phinsxiii Před 2 lety

    Spot on. Not knowing any better than all the stories spread, I was pleasantly surprised that the stories of Yoko were wrong. It was very interesting to see how they wrote some of their biggest songs off the cuff like that. Very cool doc.

  • @simonhodgetts6530
    @simonhodgetts6530 Před 2 lety +12

    I’ve been really excited to see the various clips of Let It Be - the interactions between John and Paul, and Paul and Ringo especially are a joy to see - they still obviously had that ‘band of brother’s’ mentality. What was really surprising is how removed from it all George gets at times - you can sense his frustration with it all. There’s complete acceptance of Yoko - the old scapegoat that she spilt up the band is urban myth in my opinion. Paul had Linda and her daughter Heather there after all. The moments with Billy Preston are joyous. And the real unsung star of the piece is Mal Evans. The real shame with the end of The Beatles is that he never really recovered from their split - after all he lost his job………..

    • @joeparish4989
      @joeparish4989 Před 2 lety

      And tragically, in 1976, Mal Evans was killed by the LAPD. He was involved in a domestic dispute that ended with him pointing a gun at an officer and poor Mal was killed. :(

    • @olihhayes
      @olihhayes Před 2 lety

      There wasn't complete acceptance of Yoko tho, it's edited that way. Everyone acknowledges the change of John (she introduces him to heroin, she acknowledged it later) and her presence at the songwriting sessions, studio and business meetings (!) annoys the other 3. Here's the complete unedited conversation czcams.com/video/IaZuMdfCjjY/video.html

  • @Gardosunron
    @Gardosunron Před 2 lety +5

    Seems pretty accurate to me. I've never met anyone who thinks John Lennon's musical ability was akin to" three blind mice" and I hope I never do.

  • @captsubtle
    @captsubtle Před 2 lety +1

    Binged it when it was released, and loved every single moment of it. I think what was the most salient point was that they all still really loved working together, even if they were pissed or upset over something. Sure, Yoko screaming was annoying AF, but you can see she was painted as the boogeywoman who broke them up when she clearly didn't. But the joy in their faces when getting something right, performing on the rooftop, just hanging around each other... that's what made it so fascinating and engrossing to watch.

  • @thomasebeling152
    @thomasebeling152 Před 2 lety

    Hi Justin, could I suggest you have a look at both Royal Blood & Nothing But Thieves at some point? Both fairly recent bands which seem to be bridging the gap between rock and more mainstream ‘radio-friendly’ music. Also would love to hear your thoughts on one of my favourite bands (apart from The Darkness that is!), Muse. Keep the videos coming, greatly insightful and wonderfully entertaining. Also congrats on the latest album and tour, came to see you guys at Rock City earlier in the week and it was tremendous fun, long live The Darkness! 🤟🏻

  • @ericsandberg6137
    @ericsandberg6137 Před 2 lety +9

    George comes off as the most sensible and pragmatic Beatle.

    • @danielaf1487
      @danielaf1487 Před 2 lety +4

      He's my favourite.

    • @71hammyman
      @71hammyman Před 2 lety +5

      No that was John, surprisingly, I love George, but I feel like he came across as quite petty in this, almost like he had a chip on his shoulder, and rightly so tbh, but idk I might need to watch it again

    • @kbusby4824
      @kbusby4824 Před 2 lety

      George was always my favorite.

  • @DeathFromAbove1981
    @DeathFromAbove1981 Před 2 lety +4

    I loved being a fly on the wall to the conversations with the people around the Beatles. Couldn't help but love Mal Evans with his little hammer. Crazy how he was shot to death by the LAPD.

  • @murphdog8980
    @murphdog8980 Před 2 lety +1

    Pretty much agree with all of that - one of my main takeaways was how disorganised the whole “project” was… that’s probably a result of them managing their own affairs at the time… essentially something they never really resolved and one of the main catalysts for their break up. The deadline they were working towards was crazy. Still not sure how they knocked out Abbey Road after this.

  • @Cfolger
    @Cfolger Před 2 lety +1

    That's a really great insight justin, I wouldn't leave my love at home just going through something like that

  • @MeaganEarls
    @MeaganEarls Před 2 lety +14

    I am so happy that you talked extensively about Yoko Ono, and her NOT being the reason for the breakup of the Beatles. People just cannot accept the fact that people in bands are human beings too; human beings who disagree, make mistakes, and go through conflicts together, both as bandmates/work colleagues, and in their private lives; band dynamics can be difficult sometimes, and usually cannot be "controlled" by just one member of the group or one outside force; creative people can often be quite dramatic, and when you have four incredibly creative people in one group, you are likely to have your fair share of drama, some of which may include significant others or spouses, but most of which probably does not. I think people just want someone to blame, in any "bad" situation, and when it comes to the breakup of the Beatles, Yoko was the easy target. 1. because she "was there" and not a Beatle, and no one wanted to blame the Beatles themselves 2. because she was a woman and 3. because she was unconventional, artistic, and controversial. I feel like it was mostly #2. There is a long history of toxic behavior towards women in the entertainment industry, news/entertainment media, and rock music, so I don't think it is too much of a stretch to say that it contributed to the hate she received (and still receives) that was/is unwarranted and ridiculous. The amount of times I have heard her called "b*tch," "sl*t," "c*nt," "devil," etc. and the amount of times I have been told (as a woman who makes music myself and has dated a lot of other musicians) NOT to be "a Yoko" is uncountable basically, and I think that really says something about the situation and the way that "society" views women in the public eye. Not just the entertainers/celebrities who happen to be women themselves, but also the women who are the friends, the significant others, the sisters and mothers, and the children of entertainers/celebrities. It's kind of sick.

    • @MsAppassionata
      @MsAppassionata Před 2 lety

      And, let’s face it, some racist people don’t like the fact that she is Japanese.

    • @blackmore4
      @blackmore4 Před 2 lety +2

      Most of the anger towards Yoko Ono has definitely been fuelled by the usual toxic sexist/misogynistic idiocy. On the other hand, while I'm neither sexist nor misogynistic and have often enjoyed Ono's work (loved her late 60s / early 70s style too), I always had her down as a significant factor in The Beatles splitting. If four people (male, female, whatever) have a very special creative work dynamic and one of them suddenly brings someone the others barely know into that space, someone who does and says nothing except sitting next to and occasionally whispering to the member who brought them in, it can only affect that special creative and personal situation badly.
      I never knew about her (pre-Let It Be filming) miscarriage until I heard Justin Hawkins mention it here and, for the first time, I understand why Lennon brought her along. Even so, believing his doing so wouldn't have negative consequences is unreasonable. If he'd cared about a future for The Beatles, he could have demanded a suitable delay to the start of the project and when eventually starting it, returning to that space without Yoko. The thing is, at this point, he didn't care. When in that frame of mind, Lennon was frequently antagonistic and bloody minded. I think the group had reached a natural winding down stage but for those who _have to_ attribute blame, it seems much more appropriate aiming it at Lennon rather than Ono.

    • @cockoffgewgle4993
      @cockoffgewgle4993 Před rokem

      @@blackmore4 All the stock woke defences are being doled out here lmao.
      You can't possibly have a correct opinion that she was a wretched, destructive influence on the greatest band to ever live, nor that she was a wretched "musician" and artist. It must simply be wayyycism and mysoggyknees at play.

  • @StockportJambo
    @StockportJambo Před 2 lety +4

    I'm still processing most of it tbh, and I need to watch it again, but it was really interesting to hear your take on it. The one thing that did strike me was how utterly innocuous Yoko was, throughout. She was almost there like John's emotional support animal. Barely said a word, and just let the guys do their thing in their own way like she's not there. Also - yes - clearly a lot to be said for just pissing around!

  • @chrislox1
    @chrislox1 Před 2 lety

    Very good. I like this appraisal of the Get Back documentary. Justin talks so much sense and I love the conversational style of this review.

  • @joshwmusic6838
    @joshwmusic6838 Před 2 lety

    8:47 is quite literally me and my mates in school😂! Amazing video Justin

  • @whitebread940
    @whitebread940 Před 2 lety +4

    When I was in a band and we tried to write songs at practice I didn’t like other people being there ( we were no Beatles) People complaining about Yoko, so she can’t be there with her husband but all the other people can? I thought the doc really details how The Beatles functioned.

  • @michaelzzzzzzzzzzzz
    @michaelzzzzzzzzzzzz Před 2 lety +7

    Yeah they were amazing.
    They just had the perfect storm and that's it. They just had the driving force of McCartney who is just a music beast, probably the most talented man in music even though people may not want to admit it because hes not as cool as say prince.
    Lennon was the raw edge they needed, more talented on guitar and piano than I realised l, some of those riffs and rhythms he came out with, just wow.
    Harrison was a great guitarist, maybe he never flaunted himself enough but this also made the band have so many perfect songs as there was no showing off?
    Ringo his timing is beyond an atomic clock, phenomenal.
    Just a monster group, from the early stuff right up to Helter skelter to Let it Be, just amazing songs.
    And all this without today's technology or much previous talent to take lots from.
    First there was the Beatles and then there was god

    • @ursula3438
      @ursula3438 Před 2 lety +1

      There was a whole generation of great songwriters before Lennon/Mccartney: Irving Berlin, George Gershwin, Richard Rodgers, Hoagy Carmichael, Jerome Kern, Cole Porter, Jimmy Van Heusen, Jule Styne, Frederick Loewe and a little later Burt Bacharach, Antonio Carlos Jobim and even Hank Williams, Chuck Berry, Carole King etc.. The Beatles are my favourite band, but songwriting and popular music didn't start with them.

    • @michaelzzzzzzzzzzzz
      @michaelzzzzzzzzzzzz Před 2 lety +1

      @@ursula3438
      No one said the Bestles started music, what my point is modern music had just started.
      So the Beatles had very little to gain knowledge from, compared to say Oasis who had all these amazing artists to learn and take snippets from.
      The Beatles had very few, Oasis had everyone

  • @esporev
    @esporev Před 2 lety

    Thank you so much for saying this… I was a tremendous fan of the Beatles as a teen and have watched them quadruple in the amount of attention their music gets and all the nastiness along with it has followed. You said exactly what needed to be said to the people out there that just follow blindly and repeat what they’ve heard about yolo, I was such a fan of solo Lennon and songs like Oh Yoko that knowing that she helped inspire that song just made it all BS to me. If anyones ever truly been in love that song sums it up.

  • @richardh3159
    @richardh3159 Před 2 lety +1

    From your title I thought you were going to bash Get Back but your hot take was quite refreshing. You've gained a new follower, friend 👍🏼

  • @Elcapitaan5
    @Elcapitaan5 Před 2 lety +12

    I have always thought that Yoko was a part of John so she is valuable to Beatles fans. In any case i love his music after the Beatles and she was a huge part of it. In the case of John Lennon i think the issue is the gear he was on,and the fact that he was becoming weary with the band much like George. He still came up with great songs after these sessions,but as a period in time it is not a strong one for him. I hope another doco shows John at his best at some point to show new generations what he was capable of in the way this one shows Paul.

  • @phush3495
    @phush3495 Před 2 lety +5

    I loved it. I also watched the Rick Ruban 123 documentry with MCCartney, which was equally as good. The basslines he knocked up on the spot are incredible.

  • @RikiNewtonMusicianSongwriter

    An absolutely splendiferous appraisal of The Beatles and the superb new film Get Back. Thanking you kindly Mr Hawkins !! Loved everything you said which made a wholr load of sense. Nice one. Am now subbed to yer chan plus you get a well deserved.'like' too. Yaay !! Cheery bye f'noo. Rx

  • @sirvicemanone
    @sirvicemanone Před rokem

    i fricking love the Martin Backpacker guitar but never bought one. You play many beautiful guitars.
    As usual great video