Hazbin Hotel's "Poison" BREAKS ME
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as an sa victim i love how they portrayed angels fear of val in episode 4. the room literally on fucking fire and yet angel is just focused on val... the biggest threat in the room.
yeah... that's pretty messed up
i agree.
"Would you rather be alone in the woods with a bear or a man?"
Bear. 100%. At least the bear could be reasoned with. At least the bear would make it quick. At least the bear wouldn't lock me in its basement for 20 years.
as an sa victim i 100% agree, episode 4 was amazingly written
@@Yourgirlhannah33bears stalk and torture its prey. And it will do that for days or weeks if it wants to.
In no world will a bear make it quick.
Fun Fact: It isn’t Husk’s VA first time being a black cat. He shares a VA with the cat from Coraline
Danny made that joke a while ago
Wait deadass that’s amazing
And not his first time voicing a gambler who deals in sould
Husk's in community the bad part but still in community
He is also the bad guy in the princess and the frog.
Apparently, in the Italian dub, instead of Angel saying "Do you know how much I'm worth?" he says "Do you know how much I cost?" and that just breaks me inside a little.
Ya, I’m gonna start crying now
in angel's native language too
@@Sweezo1 wait is it the characters canon or the va?
@@pinklizard1589the character is Italian American
Heartbreaking
I'm an abuse survivor. The line in Poison that goes "I got so good at bein' untrue; I got so good at tellin' you what you wanna hear; I disassociate, disappear" hit me SO HARD.
Me fucking toooo😭
This line is literally part of what I'll be talking to my therapist about tomorrow 😢 I swear Angel has enough lines that hit hard that my therapist will be hearing about it for months
😢 Same
It’s actually so real 😢
Exactly love it. I’ve never been a victim of a human before I don’t think…. But I’m not telling just anyone what did happen. God told me to help that I’m not the only one and I’m ok. Humans want to linger in there pain but people are in hell as we speak. Human trafficking he said is bigger than ever so I’m trying hard to get over what happened to me. I only scream at night now. I’m thinking I need a camera to ya. I need to see myself at night. See this guy he walked into lol ok it sounds funny. A black shadow with a hat no eyes. He’d stand there and still stops by sometimes. and I think it’s why I scream at people and there lol shadows. But I meant I love how real this show is. I think also the devil only comes by when I talk to god and I assume like his said this happens to many. I’m happy I overreacted. I can make it leave. Oh also the internet doesn’t count as me telling actual people around me lol. it wove to odd. only god can help and he sits with me. I feel so loved when I can feel him in my home. But I’ve done wrong by getting depressed again. and he doesn’t baby us so
I mean after banana fish and black butler traumatizing the hell out of Danny I'm glad people have actually warned him this time 😭
Yeah at least no one told him it was “silly and gay” or whatever it was that someone told him about Black butler 😅
@@Vlint_Vorgetson to be fair to that person, when black butler isn't dealing with csa it is pretty silly and gay (or at least s4 will be 🤣🤣)
I'm still waiting on book of Atlantic I really hope he watches it before season 4
I wish I had had a warning before I watched it
Danny didn’t even show his reaction to episode 13-24 to banana fish 😭😭😭
Here’s the thing with Charlie that Husk nailed:
She’s got a guilt complex mixed with a need of validation. She wants to help people, but she’s from a sheltered home life. Think if Marie Antoinette actually DID want to help the poor in France but had none of the social awareness early on
Yeah that’s her to a T
But Antoinette did want to help the poor. She did a lot of charitable works, like personally handing out food and money to poor families, opening hospitals, and founding charities to help unwed mothers. It was her husband who didn’t have a spine to and up to the other greedy aristocrats who kept convincing him to change his mind on doing anything to actually help the country. She cared a lot about the French people, it was the French court who didn’t like her because she wasn’t French so she couldn’t do anything.
@@GreebleClownthat’s what the original comment was saying. Charlie wants to help but isn’t really in touch with her people just like Marie Antoinette was
@@Jinju___ Nah that comment "if Marie Antoinette actually DID want to help..." insinuates that she absolutely did not want to do anything. Marie A. is an absolutely misunderstood character of history because all most people know about her is the "let them eat cake" which is also taken out of context. So @GreebleClown was right to say that
@@nataliemooney2408 didnt she also not even say that anyway? but yeah very misunderstood. really tragic.
“Do people ship Angel and Husk, is that why this is happening?” To “Damn it, now I ship them!” is basically a universal experience 😭😭 like I was minding my own business and those two just completely stole my heart
me too!
It's even better when you realize, that HuskerDust is a canon slow burn relationship :3
Not really universal
20:26
Theres this funny fan comic where Stolas, from Helluva Boss (who "loves words" and is "really good with contracts" according to himself) looks over Angel and Val's contract and says
"This isn't legally binding. You both only signed with your first name! And Anthony signed with an illegal character! His name isn't *Heart Sign Anthony*, you know that right?"
We need this in real life altho clearly it is binding because val has the chains but still
@@cauticaluka4261 Maybe it's like real contracts? Like unless someone points out that it isn't legally binding than it is?
oooh i saw it by vanillabrwnsugar!
Husks main point was to show Angel that he’s not as alone as he thinks. That there are other “losers” out there , people he can relate to
This is a point I've seen a ton of people miss. "Why would he compare his gambling addiction to SA" like no the point just zoomed over your head - the point was he made a split-second decision that has forever changed the course of his life and he regrets it, but he can't do anything about it. In *that* regard, he and Angel are the same. He wasn't comparing, he was empathizing.
@@Shippou011Hazbin Hotel fans try to be media literate (Challenge) ((IMPOSSIBLE))
Honestly I'm pretty sure he was joking tho
@@Shippou011yes thank you. a lot of people love to default to "uh, no, actually, you can't relate because x is MORE traumatic!" when the point is from husk's perspective there is a strong relation to his own struggle and he wanted to make that connection with angel. the obsession people have to hierarchize personal suffering so that nobody has it "bad enough" for their standards to "truly relate to them" is exactly why people like this feel lonely. accept some empathy like goddamn he's just trying to offer some needed perspective.
@@Shippou011yup, and in a way, they *are* in the same situation. Their souls are owned by demons who see them as disposable, and treat them as such. We see in episode five that Alastor has no problem with threatening Husk to keep him in line, just as Val is seen doing to Angel. The nature of the abuse may be different, but abuse is abuse.
@@person8064I mean, ppl who haven’t seen his other content probably don’t know the type of person he is when it comes to jokes
It really shows how bad people's media literacy is when they say poison is sexualizing SA when it's almost straight up said in the song that Angel dissociates and romanticizes his life to deal with the intense trauma of it all😢 Hell he literally says it himself during the bar scene afterwards
It's the realistic discussion about coping mechanism and the toxic realities people live with. People want simple and straightforward without the sharp corners of reality
SA survivor and huge fan of Poison here. I was starting to think that people claiming that say Poison romanticizes/sexualizes SA either: a) Never been in this situation (and wish they never will) or b) expected Angel to have the classic victim stereotype (shy and afraid of s3x) instead of having toxic coping mechanisms, such as hypersexualization and drug/alcohol addiction.
@@simo220poison itself is a good representation
But the show as a whole really handles SA badly. It makes a joke of rape. Sir pentious got GANG RAPED and nobody bat an eye. But when the main character who is a porn star gets raped he gets attended to. It's fucking stupid.
They're biased. If they want to handle touchy subjects like this then don't make a joke out of it
@@simo220Truly wonderful!
Oh, not your situation, no, no!
The fact that you are making yourself heard is wonderful.
@@DontObliteratetheCommenter exactly. I see myself in Angel Dust a lot, especially on how he copes with the situation he's in, because I used the same coping mechanisms he used (not 100% as he did, but close, the main one for me was the hypersexualization) but I've managed to get out of the situation 4 years ago and I began my healing prosses 2 years ago. Now I'm well, with a partner that loves and cherises me for myself. I hope that Angel Dust will get his happy ending just like I did
"it's setting [Loser, Baby] up for failure"
*Is literally the highest grossing, objectively most popular song*
The reason why Zestial, the tall spider guy sounds like he's from a Shakespearean play is because he is literally from the era of Shakespeare I wouldn't be surprised if Zestial, literally met Shakespeare when he was alive.
or is shakesspear.
@@BOYVIRGO666 holy fuck imagine that as a plot twist tho
@@TotallyNotHayley IT would be amusing but I doubt it
" you shouldn't give this dude a no thank you you should give him a court summons " bro you are not gonna believe where this show takes place...
I mean, there should be plenty of lawyers and judges
@@alexanderwheeler3943That’s my hope for a future season. Some do gooder attorney who unalived themselves because being a do gooder attorney sucks comes to the hotel and takes a look at the contract.
We do know there will be a court thing going on in season 3 of helluva boss but yeahhhh doubt there’s a court for sinners for cases like these (even if Charlie is princess of hell)
I personally have a little fantasy about Stolas (and his love of paperwork) getting a look at Angel's contract and finding a loophole. Or, alternately, Ozzie adopting Angel and...getting rid of Val. I know, the shows can't really cross over, but....
@@CheshireCatismtechnically they can crossover as they're in the same universe.
Spoilers so don't read until video is over:
So did anyone else find it funny when he went
"Is this just them shipping angel and husk?"
To " omg I ship them now"
Yes I was waiting for someone to point that out 😭
@@Cherry._.blossom._. I laughed. My boss allows me to watch videos as long as I continue to work. So I burst into laughter while making sandwiches at that part.
When he said the first one I immediately bet that he'd change his mind after the song xd
I said the same thing to the person who introduced me to the show lol.
yes! from what i've seen, everyone who didn't already ship Huskerdust definitely ships them by the end of 'Loser, Baby'. i knew that song would change his mind
It’s not Charlie gaslighting her, it’s her own guilt and self esteem issues. She’s cooking her own self.
THANK YOU! I came here to say this... & throughout the series, her growth as a character works to improve how she approaches her relationship with Vaggie. They're an adorable couple & truly do love each other, with chemistry that fills each others' voids. But they are "flawed... who down here isn't!?" & as such, like all relationships, they have to work around their obstacles.
@@DianaLopez-dq8syThough, Vaggie has no focus on herself or HER character. Her whole soul is dedicated to helping Charlie and her dreams, which is awesome, but annoying. She has no self-focus on herself. She’s like Charlie’s girlfriend, and not really Vaggie.
As someone who was SA'd multiple times throughout 2020 - 2023, Poison was so emotionally wrenching that it was scary for me. The lyrics "I got so good at telling you what you wanna hear, I disassociate, disappear" and "I'm filling up my glass but its always hollow/I wish I had something to live for tomorrow" encompasses me so well. And it's frightening; not just how well it fits, but how so many people here can relate and had the same SA experiences, some for a longer time than I have. To anyone who's been SA'd or have some form of a-salt (I'm not gonna say the actual word), I promise you with everything I have that the trauma you have is not shameful. It's not something to bury and shove deep down. It's not something to succumb to, either. It's the product of something you (hopefully) never wanted. And it's a battle scar that needs to be tended to. You can't fix your own broken arm, after all. You go to the hospital because trained professionals help you there. And you cant heal in an instant. It takes time. But when the proper measures are taken and when a good amount of time is spent helping yourself, please know that things get better❤
If you notice, the musical number is angel dissociating from the traumatizing work day. What’s happening in the screens in the background is what’s ACTUALLY happening
Also the "ahhhhh" parts in the song match with when he would be screaming
@@megannnB that causes yet another painful twist in my stomach
@goingghost8297 Same! Saw someone talking about it on TikTok and just went "Oh 🙂 Okay."
Additionally when Val shows up on the stage the screens switch to Angel dancing in his leather outfit.
saw someone say this on tiktok and it made me so sad
Charlie is around 6 foot according to her VA who said "Lucifer is 5'2 and Charlie is around a foot taller than him" in an interview
Damn, she tall
@@DaemonCraze123that means alastor is around 8 feet!
@@ProjAthenaSpecBio
People in hell are tall people, lol.
@@ProjAthenaSpecBio I'm sorry 8 FEET????
Edit: yall are replying talking about val but only ONE of you mentioned zeztiel. Both are insane😭
Lucifer is 5'2!?!?! I'm sitting here thinking he's around 4 feet...I guess Hell is for the tall.
One of the saddest thing is that in the italian version Angel doesn't say:
"Do you know how much I am worth"
He says
"Do you know how much I COST"
Which is a lot sadder in my opinion, especially considering Angel is canonically italian
...
Fun fact! : in the pilot when angel was playing with the window in the limo it’s because he died before car windows were invented!
The "every time they introduce a new character, they immediately introduce their rival" theory bit is so freaking funny when put in context of episode 5
Lucifer vs Mimzy? Let's go! :D
no stop I didnt even think of that😭😭
I like the idea that Charlie and Katie Killjoy are rivals.
Also Husk was giving Angel his whole life story because Angel thinks no one understands the loss of identity he had gone through. Husk is basically saying, “I literally lost all of the stuff I accumulated to a psychopath. Trust me when I say there are people in a similarly shitty place.”
Husk is literally a husk of his former self - Alastor took his *name.*
They are both addicts. They both made bad deals. They both are under the heel of psychopaths. Making a connection and letting Angel feel understood is the big step to Angel getting less defensive about it, putting down his fake walls with the right people, and working to just accept the whole package.
In "Loser, baby" AD's little harmonizing "ooh's" we're such a small yet necessary touch to make that song more wholesome and I'm 100% living for it❤
The line from episode 1 ”this body was made to be exploited” hits so hard after having watched episode 4
You know Val has told him that so many times until he believes it. It's heartbreaking and after a rewatch it made me cry.
During loser baby, Husk never grabs Angel. He always reaches out his hand and its Angels decision to take it.
Their relationship is based off of consent and authenticity. It’s one major reason I ship them as well as just love Husk and this song the most.
Loser baby. For so many reasons. Is my favorite song.
Husk knows how to properly treat someone, and angel has never known that in his life, he’s always been just grabbed or taken, but for once, he has a chance to make his own choice to join in, if he doesn’t want to, he doesn’t have to
I just started sobbing. I never even registered that. I had my own Val and I had my own Husky. it's so sweet they showed this
Omg you're right! If only the show had had more time so they could have made it a slow burn, it'd be one of my top ships of all times.
@@Anonymous__S it actually is gonna be a slow burn ship from what I’ve heard, since it is getting more seasons after all
AFAIK they are a canon couple
Danny going from "Is this just them shipping Angel and Husk," to "I kinda ship them," R THE REALEST SENTENCES EVER OMG?? That's literally how I exactly felt 😭😭
He is so real for that 👊😔
FR 😂
Tbh I was already shipping it before the official show came out cause a fan comic convinced me 😅 (it's called Rescues and Revelations by jigokuhana if anyone is interested, there's a really good 3 part comic dub of it by paranoid dj) and then the more comics/fanart I saw of it the more I shipped it lol
I SWEAR I HAD THE SAME EXACT FUCKING THOUGHT WATCHING THIS EPISODE😭🙏🏽
Right like I used to find huskerdust such a weird ship and then I watched this episode and suddenly my ao3 history was full of huskerdust oneshots😂
Danny believing Charlie is manipulating Vaggie is both funny and mildly infuriating
My headcannon is that the "yeah yeah yeah" in Poison is because angel is trying to reassure himself that eventually valentino wont want him anymore and he'll finally be free
You have to remember, Viv originally had 22 episodes ready to be released on CZcams, then they got the deal with Amazon and had to shove ALL of that in 8 episodes, so yes, this series is very fast, but it works
that's amazing! Where did you get the info for the 22 episodes?
@Avianwriter I watch Cartoon Universe here on CZcams mostly and a lot of other channels that are in connections with Viv's Twitter account/patreon where she will release information on the show itself as well as a deep dive into the characters she's created. She's gone on an interview recently about how the change from 22 episodes to 8 was a big project to take on. Originally, Hazbin Hotel was supposed to release here on CZcams last Summer, they were also already working with Bento Box and A24 production team. However between that time Viv got the green light from Amazon Prime to launch there but in a smaller pilot series soft launch
@@AimeeFrizzyAnimeI wish I can see the rest of the episodes or she can make comics
this makes so much sense, i felt the show was really rushed(still amazing just felt rushed) and it’s good to see an explanation as to why that is. wish they could have gotten more episodes to span everything out more but still happy with what we got
I’m gonna disagree on it working - it REALLY could’ve done with those extra episodes.
But I DO hope that maybe next season Amazon will let them slow burn stuff a bit more.
The person who voices Vaggie actually also voices Mirabelle in Encanto, and Rosa Diaz in Brooklyn Nine-Nine! She's the best.
And Sonya in Modern Family and Carla in In the Heights
Fr, she's so good I stg
“I've only had Arlo for a day and a half, but if anything happened to him, I would kill everyone in this room and then myself.”
Best quotable line of her in B99
No offence to the va but her voice felt way too forcibly low to me. I'd be way happier if vaggie did actually sound like Mirabel.
God I love Stephanie Beatriz
27:36 yeah, come to the shiper side...
He just like me fr
We have a new recruit
Yes muhahaha
27:07 He said before be HEARD "Loser, baby"
Had to take it back real fast 😂
It's astounding to me that this is Blake Roman's first real role. After they announced the cast I did some research, and Blake didn't even have an IMDB page. He was a complete nobody, and he stole the show for me. He also voiced the egg bois, so W.
He had his Broadway debut and first TV role so close together and in both he's been talked about as a standout, it's really impressive. I can't wait for more of him!
yeah no this isnt. he was a broadway actor and this is his first voice actor role however.
@@dropletq3477 right, he was in one broadway gig. I say real role because that didn't bring him any real fame. No imdb page, no interviews i could find. From what I've heard, he sent in an audition while most of the other cast was asked directly for an audition
@@infinty_yt tbf most actors on broadway don't include their stage roles on imdb, thats more for film and tv
@@laurelleaves yeah, that's actually fair. Charlie's VA and others have it listed, so I just assumed they include broadway roles in it. My bad.
Heard a theory that Val licking Charlie's arm was his attempt to mind control her. It's based on the fact that certain breeds of moths secrete chemicals as a defense against predators, but they changed it a bit to fit more with his controlling nature. Apparently it also explains how he got Angel to sell his soul in the first place because growing up in the mob would have prepared Angel against making deals that seem too good to be true.
but angel was getting away from the mob life and doing what he wanted, he legit thought val cared for him and then val manipulated him into a contract and showed his true color like in lyrics "spewing all your red hot lies"
Angel being from the mod life might have been why he only sold half of "time" not really realizing it was his soul and him able to safe guard at least the other half
You have to consume it somehow (i.e. the love potions, made by Velvette from the help of Val’s saliva)
@@x._.rexy.poo_ Maybe it can be absorbed through the skin? Some stuff is like that
i checked the wiki and mind control isn't one of valentino's powers, but he's supposed to be charismatic as hell when he wants to be..part of the song poison contains a line "red hot eyes, and red hot lies" i'm thinking val seduced angel, convinced him it was in his best interest to sign a contract for his soul for protection,love etc etc.... abusers like valentino have a sixth sense for who is vulnerable and how to get them to do what they want..and once the contract is signed the people val convinces have no choice but to obey or he can shatter their very souls
What Danny is clearly missing here is Husk is opening himself up to Angel, showing his vulnerable side, not showing himself proud over anything.
“i’m sure i can handle whatever this show has to throw at me” 2 seconds later “i dont think im ready for this*
“There’s no chance it’s any better then Poison right?”
Famous last words LOSER BABY IS ON TOP
I love both I can't pick one over the other 😂
Loser baby is one of the top but to me hell is forever reprise
I prefer poison because angel’s voice is jussttttt
hey, I'll hand it to you Loser, Baby is a really great song.
BUT NOT AS GREAT AS POISON AND I WILL DIE ON THAT HILL!!
lol
Same, they are not similar at all@@pie1o1morris46
Fun fact: at the premiere shows there was a cocktail named “huskerdust” sooooo yes the creator ships them. In a healthy relationship. Husk waits to only touch Angel if he himself takes Husks hand. It’s very cute.
I read somewhere that Vivziepop asked her sister what angles boyfriend should be, and she drew husk.
Not true if this is just a myth but it seems that they will go in that direction and I am here for it! 😊
I can see it and I want it to be true and I hope they don’t rush it.
@coreymason7017 it is a slow burn relationship i heard somewhere that it is a canon ship that will be built up over time
I find that ship creepy, Husk is much older than Angel and even referred to him as “kid”. If Husk was younger I’d ship it, not a fan of huge age gaps even if both are adults. They suit better as platonic friends imo
@@Winskl9010 Husk died in 1970 at age 60-70, angel dust died in 1937 at mid 30s. Dunno how time passes in hell, but the age gap isn't that old if we look at birth years.
Besides brain stops developing in mid-to-late 20s so even in real life it's fairly acceptable to have bigger age gaps after that point
"Now I kinda ship them."
*My Huskerdust heart is completed*
Theres a theory that when angel is dancing thats him dissociating and whats appearing on the screen is whats actually happening to him plus theres a lyric that says "i disassociate, disappear"
As someone who has faced SA episode four is my favorite and I love Husk’s interactions with Angel because it’s not that he wanted to vent about his own problems, it’s that he wanted to show Angel that he’s not alone in hell and there’s always other “losers”
As someone who also faced SA and is a therapist friend I completely agree❤ Hope you're doing Better now
Sorry you had to deal with that
Same ❤
I feel the exact same way. Angel is my comfort character and its exactly because of that
Exactly the same for me
if angel didn't stop charlie, val would've ended up crisper than burnt fries
friendly reminder she could totally beat alastor up, she just doesn't want and chooses not to.
"But that's so meannnnnn"
yeah i feel like the fact that Angel stopped her really speaks to the fact that a lot of abuse victims end up being manipulated into thinking their abuser is much stronger than they actually are. Charlie's the princess of Hell, and despite the fact that she doesn't like getting violent, she totally could've ended Val right then and there if she hadn't been stopped
@@broblerone413 exactly
@@broblerone413 It's not really that. Manipulating to create a sense of strength isn't as much of a factor compared to an abuser manipulating their victim into pushing away those who could help them. That's like manipulation step 1. He made angel do the attacking so he looked like the bad guy who hurt her feelings, which would typically push someone away if Charlie wasn't such a forgiving and friendly person.
I mean based on the fact that Alastor faired much better than Charlie against Adam (who was stated to be the same power level as Lilith) I think Alastor would actually stand a chance. But yeah Val would be dead
i know im late to the party but, the fact that the "love potions" that Valentino sells (on his billboards) are just cheap roofies is a GREAT touch and the fact that the demon of lust refuses to sell love potions .. just chef's kiss
To add onto what you said @ 19:54, I think Angel also anticipated that because if you look closely @ 19:35 he almost subconsciously reaches to close his robe before Val closes the gap between them
I never noticed that that’s so cool
Fun fact: You wondered why they would drop a music video like poison in the middle of a scene like that? It's because, like the lyrics said, that's when Angel started to disassociate from what was going on and just retreat inside his head. Thanks to his contract, he physically isn't capable of refusing Valentino's orders so Angel needed to escape the only way he could. It's also why the song its progressively better the longer it goes on. The scenes we see throughout the video represent the day Angel is having and throughout that time he is periodically having moments where he CAN'T shut out what is happening to him, leading to the more emotion bits in the middle of the song. We finally get to see and hear the mask come down at the end when the shoot is finally over and Angel no longer needs to shut out what is happening and comes back to himself. Unfortunately, by that point all he is left with is shame and self loathing.
"How many antagonists are we going to have in this show?"
They're in hell
Vibe
So?💀 still way too much introduced in the first season
@@mollyfowles7863 It is Hell! People are there for a reason. Abuse, stealing, murder cannibalism, drugs, may i go on? There's going to be a lot of villains because THEY ARE IN HELL.
10:41 "...like a beautiful jumpscare" is not what I expected to hear, but it's so true that I couldn't have picked a better way to describe it, lmao XD
I think its really sweet so many of your fans went to warn you about episode 4 and how you used that as a segue to warn your viewers.
My favorite thing about episode 4 is that Husk consistently says he HATES fakeness and people not being real throughout the episode, which is why he butted heads with Angel. And when Angel lashes out in their fight, he tells him something about himself and opens up to him. Angel was real with him so Husk will be real with Angel. It also means a lot because Husk hasn’t participated in any sharing during Charlie’s exercises and keeps to himself. We don’t really know much about Husk prior to this moment.
I’ve seen people criticize Husk for calling Angel a loser, but they’re missing the point. Husk hates fakeness so he doesn’t sugar coat Angels situation because he knows that wouldn’t help Angel feel better. What would make Angel feel better is having someone who is going through the same thing that can relate.
Husk is in almost the EXACT same situation as Angel that’s why he wanted to tell Angel about himself
the irony of a gambler hating people putting up a front
Exactly! What also always stood out to me is that Husk doesn’t try to “fix” Angel, which I think is how Charlie unintentionally comes across sometimes. He needed the space to be heard without someone trying to fix his problem or “redeem” him. Because while his hyper-sexuality is a front and a coping mechanism, it’s also a part of him people demonize(lol) and use to make him feel ashamed. Just having someone say: “Yeah that’s fucked up. Your life is a mess dude. But so is mine and I’m your friend” is what he really needed in that moment.
When Valentino (moth guy) rants you can hear moth squeaking in his voicd. And when Vox (tv) needs to get his attention, he turns his screen brightness up.
That's amazing Attention too Detail that I love
Lol not the screen brightnes 💀
I love the little detail during the song Looser how Husk only hold’s and leads the dance with Angel’s hands rather than touching his body.
19:50 this was the oly reaction that ive seen someone pick up on that and the way you analysed that was so on point
To me, husk dumping his lore wasn’t being insensitive and wanting to talk ab himself. He’s relating his feeling trapped and guilt over it being “his decision” (even though he was backed into a corner, and likely angel was too) to Angel’s similar feelings. This episode is so important for both of their characters, and I love it
Yeah fr
He was also relating his situation, having sold his soul to a demon, to angels, having sold his soul to a demon.
I understand how people could see it as him wanting to talk about himself until you recognise how little husk actually talks about himself and that this isn’t what he’s like
Yup. Angel refused to open up to Husk, and that's why Husk decided to share his story. He told Angel about his struggles and vulnerabilities, hoping that would make Angel feel more comfortable sharing his own.
Exactly!
"No chance it's better then posion"
**2 seconds later**
"Never mind I love it"
It's Keith David singing... it's gonna be insanely good. lol.
i thought that was angles knee until you pointed it out 15:46
It breaks my heart that angel's 'dancing' his pain into the catacombs of his mind, WHILE its happening
There's also a lot more connections with Ke$ha than you realize. One of Vivienne's first animated videos was an animation to Die Young and Ke$ha even voice acted in Helluva Boss as Beezlebub.
not to mention that Bee's song 'Cotton Candy' was intentionally written to sound like a Ke$ha song i'm pretty sure
@@broblerone413Yes, but because of legal shenanigans, they had to have a soundalike to actually do the musical part.
@@broblerone413 I’m pretty sure Ke$sha wrote Cotton Candy but couldn’t sing it cause of her producers
@@bakingkitty1034that's what I've heard too.
I think the video screens during the music video are trying to show how Angel is disassociating. Every time he looks at or touches Val the illusion breaks
That is such an interesting take on the video in the background!!!
12:51
Why did I think he was going to pull out the middle finger- 😭
The major thing about Poison that has me is that the screens in the back are showing you what Angel is going through in real time but him dancing and singing his him disassociating throughout it, which would be why the "yeah yeah yeah" line is in the song because of what he'd have to be vocalising during the shoot.
It's fucking brutal.
I love that Angel's voice changes when he gets super serious. Usually you her him putting on the flirty/feminine higher pitch but when he gets upset its a bit lower and slightly masculine. Its a neat little detail
You also hear the accent shift a bit, I feel like. His voice changes from New York and deliberately peppy to a bit flatter with more of the Italian coming out. Very nice touch on Blake Roman’s part
I was really iffy on the VA switch from the pilot (Michael Kovach, a legend in my eyes), but Blake is absolutely crushing it.
22:49 when he talked about the lyrics of poison sounding really terrible out of context, something clicked for me. It’s all porn dialogue. The “yeah yeah yeah” and “oooh” in the song sound amazing in context because it doubles as a song-writing and a storytelling technique. Even in Angel’s self expression and processing of his traumas, he still feels the need to embellish them and make them consumable.
Poison is 100% the best scene in the entire show.
Wow what ?! I didn't even notice that, that's actually so interesting and clever, I was wondering too about the purpose of the yeah yeah yeah because at first, they seemed out of place but now I finally understand and that's so smart but sad for Angel :(
I saw the cowriter of the songs for this show and he was talking about how the line “I’m that hashtag bíțch” has a double meaning. 1. The more obvious calling herself a “bíțch” as a compliment. 2. She’s “that hashtag bíțch” the one in control of all the hashtags, in control of the dialogue, in control of what is being talked about on all social media. Which I thought was super interesting!
11:11 I still can't listen to this one without crying. She literally put all of Hell on the line to save her daughters, and I'm still shook about it.
Danny sees Carmilla: 😮
Danny hears Carmilla sing: 🫨
Yeah that was all of us 😂
So true! She has some kind of special resonance that Alex Brightman and Borle have too, where it just hits the right gravely power and vibrates my brain just right
"A lot of her line delivery is like very stiff and awkward" This just made me realize that Vaggie is literally the straight man of this entire show. That's fucking amazing!
EXACTLY! I didn't think anyone else understood!
23:05 bro a what to a what?
Poison is the best scene in the show. The music is amazing, the choreography is perfect & brutal, the editing is perfection & the acting is incredible.
If I wasn't so jaded by the real world & more brutal fiction, I'd find it really hard to watch.
Everyone involved did a brilliant job.
Pay attention to Angel’s voice going forward. Once he drops his mask with Husk, he actually starts sounding more natural, instead of forced. It’s a very subtle change, but you hear it as he starts sounding more like Anthony and less like Angel Dust. These songs and this episode is one of my favorites for sure. Partly because I think they treated the darker subjects with respect.
"Bdsm? More like beat me, yes ma'am" OMFGGGHHHH I NEED THAT ON A TSHIRT OR A MUG OR SOMETHING
Your pfp
I could probably make that
During the bit where hes dancing, which is somewhere after he talks about disassociating he genuinely is. He's dissasociating, the "oh"s are his yells dueing the shoots.
16:19 unfortunately, we are in an era of media production that doesn’t allow for filler episodes like that. Which is a shame, because I would really like to see a Nifty episode too.
husk wasn’t “dying to talk about himself” in fact I think he would have preferred NOT talking about himself but he knows that angel needs someone that he feels like understands him and considering they both signed their souls over to someone in hell I’d say they have very similar plights which is why they work.
Yeah, personally, when someone is struggling with something, I try to show them that I understand their problems and can relate to them. Makes them more willing to listen.
I genuinely find this to be the hardest part of trying to relate to people. I'm on the spectrum, so comparison things are usually my go-to for trying to sympathize. Usually though people just assume I'm trying to make it about me when in reality all I am trying to do is let them know I may not fully understand, but I can empathize with the plight at hand.
Part of it seemed like Husk was trying to rebuild some rapport with Angel. Everything leading up to that point came off as Husk being judgmental and not safe to open up to, so that very personal disclosure of "we're in the same shit" was needed.
If you notice the last line of Poison is “I wish I had something to live for tomorrow” and then he finds out Husk knows that it’s like to be on a leash and Angel finds someone to live for.
24:38 the drinks are free he lose money
Alastor supplies the drinks doesn't he?
16:05 thats a real knee slapper haha
Oh my God, if Danny is in love with carmilla singing wait until he hears 'Out for Love' 🤣
thats what i was thinking 💀
Angel Dust deserves so much better than this. The way Valentino treats him and what Angel said about trying to get broken enough that Val will let him go, it's really painful to watch. I'm glad he and Husk have found common ground and can support eachother. And I love the message in "Loser, Baby." It's not your usual, "cheer up, things will get better" song. It's more realistic. Yeah, Angel's life is screwed up, but he's not alone. He now has someone who understands that he can look to for support. That's as good a start as any.
its a 2d character, chill, care about the real rape and sexual abuse happening irl
@@duknfr like it’s just a drawing bro calm down
@@dukn Maybe you could chill bro. It's a show, and they're just talking about how good the representation is. Nothing wrong with liking a show from being good, real of not.
@@thethoughtsofanobody6769 🤓👆 (i have no argument against that)
Iirc correctly, Vivz based it off her life experiences. @@dukn Also, if you can't surmount a disagreement, you're probably not the correct one.
The fact you said it reminds you of Ke$ha's older music, she actually appears on the creators other show Helluva boss as beelzebub and sings and that will really take you back to her old music!
Being a Christian and saying "hey my favorite episode is when lucifer comes in" really hits me deep 😂
Fans are theorising that the scenes on the screen behind Angel are what's actually happening while Angel dancing is them disassociating. And when Val grabs him, the illusion breaks and they're back in reality
i would say this isn't a theory its media literacy
Wait until he learns Kesha is part of the Hazbin Hotel universe
thought the same thing, lol. like, this whole thing started as an AMV to a Kesha song
yeah ppl need to start realising how angel dust is one of the best representations of an abuse victim
25:34 that shark is about to pull an emperors new groove and turn Angel into a llama💀
“Oh wait maybe I do ship them”
That’s exactly how it was for me. I didn’t see it until Loser, Baby and I had a new otp
“What is this?? A DeviantArt boardroom?”
I literally had to stop the video because I couldn’t hear the rest over my laughter. Comedy. GOLD.
Honestly, refreshing to hear him say what I also thought when I had first seen all those characters
13:15 WHY IS NO ONE TALKING ABOUT THIS PART?
15:15 “I was not ready to comedically handle that situation”
Me who has been triggered by this episode and watched multiple reactions: 👀 yeah…. If that was concerning for you then your audience was right to give you the warning…
Also YES YES YES 👏 the MUSIC VIDEO WAS WHAT TRIGGERED ME AS A PERSON WHO DELT WITH SA I *LOVE* the song but I *CAN NOT* watch the music video or risk being triggered! It’s simply a fact the music video just SPELLS IT OUT SO WELL!!!
"Is this really where we want to put a musical number" to "this is the best song on the show."
23:31 I could write essays about how insanely well written Angel is. His whole performance through "poison", the whole sharade he puts on to pretend like he's into it and is in control, is just chef's kiss. It's as if he performs in his head while the panels behind him portray what's actually happening to him, for example the "ooh-oooooooh" part, he belts it out on stage, and then the next shot is him screaming that same note, it's just brilliant storytelling.
Write it please, I want to send it to my English teacher and get an A
Real
I love how at the beginning he was like “Uhg another villan (to Camila)” and then when she actually showed up he fell in love with her character
10:55 His FACE 😂
26:50 there's a therapist that when through angel trama and she said that husk sharing his trama is actually good there she said it helps angel know he knows how he feels
Yeah, Georgia Dowe, love that video
Fun fact: the song poison is angel dust dissociating from what's happening to him, but everything you see is really occurring to him. Also the end of the song is Anthony basically crying out for help. Because Anthony has to put on an act as angel dust to keep himself safe.
Also second fun fact: the reason he has one black eye is because Val only owns half of him, his soul, only when he's in the studio does he have power over him. Husk has two black eyes because Alastor owns his entire soul.
Not sure if that’s canon but cool observation!
I just realized that the studio is why Val was pissed off that Angel moved into the hotel. He only has control of Angel in the studio, so when Angel moved out he lost a massive amount of control without breaking the contract.
Neither of these facts are particularly "fun" ngl
@@yvainestelmack7196 it's a show.
@@yvainestelmack7196 as someone with sa trauma I still find them to be "fun" facts. :)
I’m glad someone sees the beauty in the animation and the tone of the music, despite how violent it is, it’s SO well done, it’s properly brutal like it would be,
Poison on its own is a bop, but in context with the rest of the episode, it really hits hard in the feels.
I have listened to Whatever it Takes about a billion times now and "who's to say who'd survive the fray, I might lose the ones that I was killing for" still gives me chills every. damn. time.
Daphne Rubin-Vega is amazing. She was the original Mimi for the Broadway production of RENT, so she's been nailing power ballads for years.
Few things i wanted to point out on Poison
The poses you mentioned where angel is dancing in the second chorus, the poses that flash up on the screen behind him. That's angel dissasociating which is why the poses are in the bdsm gear. So, those are the things actually happening to him while he's mentally checked out
Also, a main thing you learn about angel is the hypersexuality is a way to maintain some semblance of control. If they're doing this to you, you being into it is a defense mechanism. My favorite example of this is during the first chorus when angel is dancing with val. He gets pulled to the ground and we see the distress and pain on his face for just a moment before he smiles and pretends like he loves it before playfully getting back up.
It's an incredible song and a great demonstration of how some SA victims respond to the trauma they've survived
12:44 That was genuinely one of the best patreon plugs you’ve ever done no joke
him:" we need more moths!" after finds out about valentino:" kill all the moths!"