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"He has 10 Lynns." That would be a great episode. Lincoln is asked who his favorite sibling is, sent into a bunch of alternate realities where all of the siblings have the personality of one, and the moral is that you shouldn't pick favorite.
10 Loris: All 10 sisters are a bunch of phoneaholics who can't stop talking about their partners. "OMG, Bobby, texting, literally." 10 Lenis: All 10 sisters are a bunch of Valley Girl airheads who say "like" to Shaggy levels. "I got a new outfit for half-off, which is weird because half of it wasn't off." 10 Lunas: All 10 sisters are a bunch of rockers who already formed a metal band. 10 Luans: All 10 sisters are a bunch of pranksters who can't stop one-upping each other with bad puns. 10 Lynns: All 10 sisters are a bunch of sports-loving fanatics who constantly fight over sport teams. 10 Lucys: All 10 sisters are a bunch of goths. 10 Lolas: All 10 sisters are a bunch of pageant stars. 10 Lanas: All 10 sisters are a bunch of mud-loving maniacs. 10 Lisas: All 10 sisters are a bunch of insufferable geniuses. 10 Lilys: All 10 sisters are a bunch of whiny crybabies.
It would have been cool if Lincoln's brothers were EXACTLY the same as their female counterparts. This would show Lincoln that it doesn't matter if his siblings are male or female, he would still have to deal with them and their differing personalities the same as he had before. Also, I absolutely love the idea about how male Lola would get along with the same personality as female Lola. An episode dedicated to that would have been awesome as a follow-up to the "brothers" universe (or whatever we can all it).
@@jacindaellison3363 This episode could have worked if it started with Lincoln going to dimension with the Loud Brothers that way the writers can use the eleven minutes to work on their personalities.
Actually, what bothered me with that episode is that the theme song specifically says "One boy, ten girls: wouldn't trade it for the world" and then... he trades it. ... okay.
One of the worst parts of that episode is that the Loud Brothers treat Lincoln like Garbage, but when he wakes up as a girl they treat him with decency. That's like saying "you can mistreat little kids as long as they are boys because they are okay with rough housing".
Is even worse. It follows what Mr.Enter (paraphrasing) pointed out about the episode being lazy.If there had been consistency, there would have treated the female lincoln equally. HECK if they had put effort female lincoln would have probably had more guts and bravery considering she would have had to put up with 10 brothers and not the kind of some at least would treat you nicely, some wouldn't" but the kind of all being bullies
I'll be honest, I think this premise might have gotten more mileage if Lincoln had also been gender-swapped in the other reality. Maybe see the other siblings, who he at first thought were more masculine and boyish from seeing into the world before he goes, but then they turn out to be as protective and coddling as his/her sisters, which would teach him this isn't something his sisters do because they're girls, it's just how siblings are, especially to the one who they (think they) don't know as well due to the gender difference.
It's like that scene from Sonic Boom. "You know Amy, every time someone calls attention to the breaking of gender norms it undermines the message of equality by implying that this is the exception and not the status quo."
Maybe this episode would have been better if Lincoln was faced with the different problems he would have with his sisters normally, but wrongly associated these problems with the fact that they were sisters. Then in the "alternate universe" dream, he realizes that those conflicts aren't gender conflicts, but personality conflicts. And when things are a bit different because of how being a boy might affect a certain character, he would notice that the conflict didn't go away even with those changes, since the core personality stayed the same.
Reminds me of the episode from Malcolm in the Middle titled "If Boys Were Girls", which is an example of this premise done right. It has basically what you said, where when the mom imagines her sons as daughters, they at first seem like pleasant, better people, when in reality their problems are just displayed in different ways, and she comes to the realization that she likes her children the way they are. A great watch.
can we just all agree to hate episodes where the moral is basically "yeah your life is shit but look how much more shit it could be if it was like this!"
Remember the episode of MALCOLM IN THE MIDDLE where the mother imagined having daughters instead of sons. She imagined that her life would be worse as the girls wouldn't respect her and tend to use her.
It would've been a really good moral had the Loud brothers kept their original personalities because it would've shown that Lincoln couldn't escape that general feeling of overbearing just because they're boys.
I agree, It would have been funny if it was all his thinking that them being boys would make a difference. After all changing gender doesn't change their characters. As kids we tend to think "Ew girls" and "Boys are from Jupiter to get more stupider". So if Lincoln felt like having brothers would be better because you know the way we think as children, it would be both relatable and touching when He finds out from the dream.. oh yeah changing gender doesn't make much difference.
that... probably would have worked better. They could have given them very slight changes that he initially picks up on because of how well he knows his original sisters, and that makes him think things will be different, but it soon becomes apparent that they're still really the same people and thus the problems he was having with them haven't gone away.
The concept of genderbent Louds would've been cool if they weren't boy stereotypes. Also Rob Paulsen as Lane manages to sound like Coconut Fred and Donatello at the same time, despite hating voicing the former.
Lane is lana's counterpart? the rocker' (i know the show, but i haven't watched it that much) Woudn't the male counterpart (at least in a kinda lazy kinda putting effort) would be one of the kindest brothers and be the one with a more "effeminate" style (something like Prince of Michael Jackson style) while also liking rock.?
Rob Paulsen actually started off as Raphael in the 1987 Ninja Turtles series. Then he voiced Donatello in the 2012 series. So when you look at it he voiced not one but two different Turtles during the course of his voice acting career. Pretty cool right?!🐢
Lincoln Loud: Girl Guru proves that not all girls are the same, so the same should go for boys, though this episode completely ignores that and it just seems cruel. The only thing I liked about this episode is that Lincoln's four older brothers have the TMNT 2012 voice actors.
"this girl can do it just like the boys!" You know, any time someone calls attention to the breaking of gender roles, it ultimately undermines the concept of gender equality by implying that this is an exception and not the status quo. ...I feel like Sonic Boom gets too much crap for how surprisingly clever it can be.
This episode 5% offended me cause its saying that this is what men act like. farting all the time, rude and only like sport and mud. not all dudes act this way
With the Loud House, I don't see Lincoln as "the boy," I see him as "the geek." He does more than just "like comic books," he cosplays, goes to conventions, makes fanfics as part of a contest, etc. and doesn't get ribbed for it "because it's boyish" but because "it's geeky."
Loki: Leonardo's voice (after it changed) Loni: Raphael's voice Luke: Michelangelo's voice Lane: Donatello's voice How the hell did I discovered that the four oldest boys of the boy version of the Loud House sound just like the Ninja Turtles
As a dude this episode is so bland because it takes one stereotype to the extreme. I get grossed out easily and hate roughing with my bros (but I do love sports). I bet a female counterpart of me would be the same way. This episode should've had character development and been a 22 min special.
It’s kinda like with me in a way. When I was a kid I loved boy things especially video games, card games and action figures. A lot of girls used to tease me cause I should care about dolls and tea parties. That’s another bland stereo type.
8:45 But don't half of his sisters love Dairyland? Continuity issue right there, like Lola being able/unable to read or the kiddy table only existing in 'Homespun' and 'A tale of two tables'
Do you think theyd do an episode where the girls, fed up with Lincoln being the boy in the house (maybe different rules for him, he doesnt have to share a room, etc), they wish he was born a girl- at first they love having a eleventh sister, but then they start to miss Lincoln around, like the girl Lincoln is just that- another sister and just a female Lincoln- they begin to realize they actually like having a brother as opposed to a house full of girls?
I remember going on a huge rant about this episode over at the Alpha Jay Show when he asked whether One of the Boys or Sibling Tsunami from My Life as a Teenage Robot was better. I think it applies well here so I'll copy/paste. *WARNING: INCOMING WALL* As someone who is a huge fan of The Loud House, One of the Boys is just...bad, especially for the amount of possibilities it had and the roads it could have gone down. Making male versions of the sisters could have been a great way to put a spin on already established characters, but barring Lynn, they all just fall flat and outright go against how they acted as sisters, and not in the ways that men are different than women. We're talking huge breaks in character that don't make any sense. In fact, I'll just list all the gripes I have with this episode to truly hit home as to why I hate it. First off, the male versions of all the sisters. They range from tolerable to completely out of character, barring Lynn, who is really more of a joke (literally the exact same, even the same voice actress). The least offending versions other than Lynn are probably Leif (Lana), Leon (Lily), and to an extent Loki (Lori), only because they act the most similar to their normal versions (Leif is still a rough and dirty little kid, Leon is still just a baby, and Loki is still stuck-up, bossy, and generally comes across as mean but wise), but they still have the same glaring problems in that they are overtly mean-spirited and cruel, as well as unnecessarily disgusting (even for a male version of Lana). Lane (Luan), Lars (Lucy), Lexx (Lola), and Levi (Lisa) are in a sort of middle ground where while they are still for the most part in-character, the actions they take don't really seem fitting for said character. Lucy, as a goth, is usually a loner, and someone who people generally don't notice. I just don't see a male version going along with all the rough-housing, the piling, and the gross stuff. He'd more likely just sit on the side and watch at most or more likely just go away. The same could be said about Levi. Being a prodigy, Lisa’s character is very mentally mature, and devotes her time almost entirely to science. While she does sometimes break this, it’s pretty much standard that she doesn’t like partaking in such uncouth ways (unless it’s for science), and I don’t see that being different in Levi. Also, can I ask why Levi plays keep-away with the dimension-crossing watch? Wouldn’t he notice that it at least wasn’t a regular watch? That it’s something that would probably be almost exactly like his own work? While I can definitely see Lexx getting physical with the rest of the brothers, I refuse to believe that a male version of freakin’ LOLA would go along with all the farting, nose-picking, and other disgusting things the brothers do in this episode. I GUESS I can see Lane doing all those things, save for the cruelty part (though that applies to all the sisters) and the inverse wedgie, but I don’t know it just seems…wrong and unfitting. And then there’s Loni (Leni) and Luke (Luna). The ONLY thing the male versions of Leni and Luna share with their normal selves are their standard traits, dumb blonde and rocker. That’s it. They are completely different in every other way. Leni is portrayed as dumb but with a huge heart, and is by far the nicest person in the family. So why would the male version of her be a thoughtless jerk who laughs at Lincoln getting a swirly instead of trying to help him? Or stop the other brothers from dogpiling Lincoln or their father? Or not try to comfort Lincoln when he’s hurt? This is the male version of the girl who ignored her fear of spiders to save one’s life for her brother, and the girl who wanted to take care of her siblings with the flu instead of avoiding them at all costs. It just doesn’t make any lick of sense. I get that guys generally aren’t as sensitive as girls, but kindness is one of Leni’s defining traits. Why would the male version be any different? And then there’s Luke, who is by far the biggest offender. Luna is also one of the kindest siblings in the house, second only to Leni. She’s the one who rarely gets angry, the one who always go to her siblings’ first concerts to try and make them good experiences (despite ruining them), and the one who’s arguably closest to Lincoln. So naturally, that means Luke would give Lincoln swirlies and flush his favorite stuffed animal down the toilet. Are you serious? Is this a joke? Why out of all the siblings that did this, why did they choose Luna of all people? If it was Lynn you could have at least said it was somewhat in-character, but Luna? That directly contradicts who she is as a person! It’s a huge break in character, and while Loni wasn’t exactly the nicest person to Lincoln in this episode, he at least didn’t go out of his way to actively hurt Lincoln! The problem with the Loud Brothers is just what Alpha said in the video: the writers played it too safe. Instead of giving the brothers some depth and parallels to their female selves, they chose the easiest and safest way out. They kept them to their barebones traits and threw in unneeded and superfluous amounts of toilet humor. It’s like they took all the sisters, threw them into the Rule 63 machine, cloned Lynn, killed that clone, got 9 big scoops of brain, and put it into the skulls of the other 9. It’s like they all have a male Lynn filter on them. I like Lynn, don’t get me wrong, but one is more than enough. The toilet humor is too frequent, immature, and cringe-inducing. The cruelty is out of character for all of them, even Lynn. One quick thing to note is that in one scene the sisters act very oddly compared to what we know about them. One of the examples Lincoln gives to Clyde about it being tough having all those sisters is his proposing of going to the Dairy Land Amusement Park getting immediately shot down by all the sisters, which is strange because the tenth episode of the series (One of the Boys is #45, mind you) revolved around half the sisters (Luna, Luan, Lynn, Lana, and Lisa) trying to CONVINCE Lincoln to go to Dairy Land! Why would these same characters immediately shoot down Lincoln’s request when it’s proven that all five of them like going to the place, or at least prefer it to the beach? Perhaps this episode’s biggest flaw is the complete waste of potential. So much could have been done here, and yet the route they went with was, well, horrible. I have two ideas in my head that would have made this episode so much more enjoyable. First, they could have gone the same route, but better. Scrap the whole “boys are disgusting and are assholes and that’s it” angle and have Lincoln go through a sort of fish out of water story. The brothers can still roughhouse and be a bit dirty (guys do both, after all. I should know, I am one), but don’t put it on so much. The message could have been that, because Lincoln grew up surrounded by ten sisters, he would have been much more accustomed to that life. Because he doesn’t know what it’s like to even have one brother, let alone ten, he could have decided that it just wasn’t for him and leave. Heck, maybe in the end he could run into Linka who did the exact same thing he did and felt the same about having 10 sisters after growing up with 10 brothers. Alternatively, Lincoln could see that barely anything would have truly changed, and realized that dealing with siblings comes with problems, no matter their gender. Maybe in this version he’d figure it out quickly but the watch Lisa made would get destroyed, thus he would go to Levi and request help, and the rest of the episode would revolve around the two of them making sure a new watch gets made within the 24-hour time limit. Both scenarios would also preferably be double episodes, simply because a situation like this would require more time to develop correctly, but it would be a much better end product compared to what we got. Now with that being said, this episode did do a few things I like. Getting the TMNT cast to voice the oldest brothers was a really cool easter egg, and I felt that they were very fitting (especially for Luke and Lane). It’s just a shame that they had to play complete jerks. I also really liked that the parents swapped the colors of their clothes, with the dad in pink and the mom in green. It was a nice, subtle touch. Again, I really like a male Lynn being a complete joke. All in all though, it isn’t enough to save this episode. Okay, rant over.
The TMNT VA's was a neat Easter egg, but I feel they had some bad miscasting. If I recall, they made Raphael's Actor play Leni's stand in, instead of maybe the Luna or Lynn expy, and he's not really suited to playing a ditzy/dim-but-kind (relatively speaking for the brothers) character like Mikey's actor Greg Cripes. Rob Paulsen as Luane's stand in works, but I partially attribute that to Paulsen have so many roles under his belt in general, including, ironically/fittingly enough, being a previous TMNT Raphael Voice before returning as Donnie for 2012. It just feels like an Easter Egg that, while neat, wasn't thought through enough to make it work, because when then I start to hear Raph through a character that is decidedly not Raph (or at least much less than other characters he could be playing). I guess it's not as pronounced since none of the guys have deep enough characters for this to persist, but it's something that I couldn't shake once I picked the voices out.
They could've done the episode except make the all guy version exactly the same and then Lincoln realizes "It's not the fact that I have 10 sisters it's the fact that we just have different opinions." or something like that. The episode would've been good.
For some people it's disgusting, for others it's no big deal. It's not a problem about, if this is objectively disgusting (which it can't be since disgust is a subjective perception), it's a problem about how considerate you are of someone's feelings. Maybe you don't find it disgusting, if you're eating PB with your fingers, but you family members really don't like it. In this case, it's not very considerate to just not give a fuck about what everyone else who has to live with you and your decisions thinks. You have to compromise for your own good when living together with other people. A family with different people with different personal preferences and comfort zones only works, if you're able to compromise.
I've always thought this episode would've been leagues better if Lincoln's brothers had all been near identical to their female counterparts - as in the only difference at all being their gender. It could've been both an interesting character study as you said, as well as a nice subversion of the more "boys vs. girls" vibe I get from the episode as is. Not changing their personalities almost at all could have been an interesting message about how gender doesn't necessarily have any connection to how people act and with no difference other than having to learn different names, Lincoln would think "why even bother traversing dimensions? I'll just go back to my sisters".
One of the best gender swaps is Adventure Time's Fiona and Cake episodes because their personalities aren't really changed all that much. Differences are usually small and make sense to the individual and the world they exist in. They also managed this in very short episodes. This LH episode could have done something more interesting with the main character realizing that whether he had ten sisters or ten brothers things wouldn't change all that much for him because the characters would've largely still acted the same. It would have provided a much better learning experience for him in the end as well.
See with the main characters your right but I didn’t like how they did pb gumball was portrayed as a wimpy weird guy while pb is shown as super smart super badass and super capable, pg was shown as not capable loses chess to a candy, and weird shows to like being sat on?? Also they guys were all trying to get with Fiona while the girl version just wanted to be friends
Honestly, I always interpreted it as Lincoln's exaggeration of the idea of having Brother's, or at the very least, what he thought Brother's should/would be like. Since it was a dream, and mostly seen as a nightmare, I looked at it as Lincoln taking all the traits he was scolded for in the episode being "the boy he is", and wrapping it into all 10 of his sisters as guys, obviously making them very.. Cookie cutter and no longer individual. In reality, even though the likelihood of a swap episode is small, I would hope the "brothers" would keep the same character traits as the sisters do.
Also keep in mind it isn't feasible to develop 10 characters who share pretty much the same screen time. Making the Loud brothers stereotypes was the most reasonable option they have. Could they they try to make some of them a little more distinctive, yes but they wouldn't be that great of characters regardless. The writers was in a loose loose situation the more I think about this episode.
"Also keep in mind it isn't feasible to develop 10 characters who share pretty much the same screen time." Except that they literally did exactly that in the first episode of the fucking show...
Savannah Neider maybe and in real life or as non fiction that's a fine excuse, but this is media made specifically to entertain, and because of that it should know better. It doesn't get a realism excuse when it is intentionally created and can be scanned and corrected if it has bad implications
I almost feel spoiled by the amount of uploads we've been getting recently. Makes me smile every time I get the notification for a review. Keep up the great work Mr. Enter!
Honestly I'm surprised at the upload rate, he seemed pretty messed up in his channel update. I'm glad for him, of course, just really surprised at how quickly he seems to have recovered.
I have two older brothers and non of them act like the Loud brother either they're very nice and I'm a boy (The Loud brothers only seen to be nice to Linka because she's a girl)
My main problem with this episode is that it's exhaustingly stereotypical. I'm male, and I am NOTHING like Lincoln's genderbend sisters. This episode definitely gets a skip for me, and thanks for reviewing this, finally someone has sense and finds this episode offensive, yet exhaustingly awful in every way, shape, and form.
Generally, toilet humor is the one thing I hate the most about TLH as a whole. It's just not necessary and not funny for anyone above the age of six. Unless you're Canadian that is (Total Drama Island Season 1 was simply impossible for me to finish watching because of it).
Frankly, I'm pretty sure I have more in common with Lincoln's sisters (whether the Tomboys or the more feminine ones) than the Brothers (or the one brother cloned). Contrary to what most would think, a lot of guys don't enjoy gross out for gross out's sake past the age of 8 when it's more about getting attention, because the basic human instinct of being disgusted and repulsed by it starts to seep in. The other interesting thing about the Loud Sisters for me is that they have differing facets within their "trope" that makes it possible to relate to each in part without squarely falling into one match, something the brothers' don't permit when there's no varation in their already shallow characters.
Reagan DeFriece So, you're saying Seth Green(Chris Griffin), Greg Cipes (Beast Boy), Rob Paulsen (Yakko Warner), Sean Astin (Sam from Lord of the Rings), were all in this episode? what wasted potential.
If only it had been about Lincoln learning that both worlds had their own problems as well as perks, and that his life really wouldn't have been any different. Minor tweaks at best. There are problems in every family and he should just be grateful for what he ended up with. It honestly would've been a better way to learn his sisters butting in is their way of caring than them forcing the awful idea into his head that being beat up is a sign the opposite gender likes you. It's also better than implying that all males are hell to live with. Growing up, my brother was my best friend. Surprise surprise, I'm a girl. My grandma also grew up in a family of exactly 13, and would consider this episode bologna. She herself smashed a BB gun over one of her brothers' heads because he left it in her way one too many times, and would easily agree girls don't default to angels just as much as boys don't default to hellions.
Mortal Anonymous.. Why wasn't an episode made where one of the sisters got a slight injury and the other sisters began overreacting and started applying heavy medical procedures like what they did to Lincoln in Heavy Meddle?
The worst part of this episode is how they literally did the same thing to Lincoln. At the end of the episode, Lincoln wakes up to find that he still has his brothers, but has changed into a girl. And we see that his entire ROOM has changed into the stereotypical little girl room. It's so out of place along with the rest of the episode. They could have at least added Lincoln's comic books into the mix just so we see that he's still the same- but no, when he did get changed into a girl, from his room in general. They changed him into a mix between Leni and Lola, even if it was only for 30 seconds, it still said so much about how terrible the episode was.
I knew it was horrible when I saw it (no such luck) , and was surprised that enter said he didn’t mind in in this video. I guess enter was too optimistic of the series or distracted by other bad episodes before realizing the awe fullness and cruelty of no such luck
Great Analysis by way I have the big brother and he is ten times more mature then gender-swap Loud's sisters Steven Universe, Dipper Pines and Finn the Human have very mature in the pass seasons This episode reminders me MLP season 2: *Dragon Quest* When Spike joins Great Dragon Migration to lean how to be man I mean dragon .
Amolina44 Come to think of it, this episode does have a lot of the same problems as Dragon Quest. In a show with female main characters who aren’t defined by their gender, we have to endure male characters entirely defined by their gender, giving negative implications about males.
Kind of reminds me of the Role Swap episode of The Amazing World of Gumball. Where all of a sudden Nicole wasn't promoted because she was a woman, and Gumball suddenly was unable to act feminine in any capacity or cry... when Nicole has a temper problem and bad luck, and Gumball once dressed and acted like a Valley Cheerleader. It bend the show backwards JUST for their "message".
Nionivek Not really. That episode of Gumball tries to satire gender stereotypes but it's not subtle, it's really not a "gender-swap" episode. It reminds me more of a bad Family Guy episode if anything. Gumball and Darwin not being allowed to cry and Nicole not being promoted is the point, even if it fails. I don't think those two episodes are comparable. The Worst fail for different reasons.
N-A-S-T-Y. This is one of the worst things that can happen when you don't care about consistency. It's like Are You Happy Now taking away a piece of the entire show's style or characters. Maybe The Worst should also be an atrocity video. Just its title is very indicative of that. July 5, 2018, 5:06pm
Aren't all ten of the Loud sisters already stereotypes? There's the science nerd who talks with a lisp, the creepy goth girl, the sports-loving jock with bad hygiene, etc.
But they aren't all GIRL stereotypes or worse the same one stereotype. Everyone that seen the episode, love it or hate it, all agree that the Loud Brothers all act like Lynn.
They aren't "the chick" stereotype. Some of them have interests associated with girls, but they have characteristics other than "lacks Y chromosome". Plus, they were all made to be distinct characters. Compare that to their Rule 63 counterparts, who are all just "Lulz, boyz be rude n crude". The only things that set them apart from one-another are their ages, clothes, and hair.
OMFG YES, THE LOUD FAMILY IS A BUNCH OF TWO-DIMENSIONAL CHARACTERS, ESPECIALLY LINCOLN'S SISTERS!!!!!!! THEY *ARE* GENDER STEREOTYPES!!!!!! YEAH, I SAID IT!!!!!!!
Also, the Loud Sisters are heavily base don stereotypes, but besides the mentioned difference of just being general tropes instead of the girl-gender idea, they also get more characterization within (or besides depending on the episode) that trope. Obviously they've had the whole series to work with, but the Loud Brothers are 10 instances of one stereotype and not even token distinctions.
g ruch Coming to you never: Heathers: The Musical _Alternate Loud House Edition!!_ Including: Beautiful - Lincoln Loud Candy Store - Loki Loud, Luke Loud, Loni Loud Kindergarten Boyfriend - Bebe Santiago _And many more!_ -(I actually spent time on this)-
g ruch He lost a bet in Sodom, didn't take it to well. He once had water splashed on Him by a few gay guys back in the day, He flooded the earth. Lost a bet in Haiti twice, gave it an earthquake and hurricane, and finally America is treating Him like a bitch, America ain't gonna be around much longer, I think He's setting the Yellowstone Volcano off soon, that's His damage, as for me, I'm heading for Petra, peace out, bros
What's up with saying "hey not just boys can do this, girls can do this too!" Saying that pretty much underminds your statement by default cause you are saying that this situation is the only exception and that THAT isnt how it was suppoused to be in the first place.
That's why I appreciate Kim Possible and (I know this is controversial) Steven Universe. The females in general are just strong smart characters. They don't have to prove it or try to be more like the guys.
The only time I've seen the gender swap trope work was on Malcolm in the Middle, where Lois fantasized about having daughters instead of sons. Granted, it was the subplot of the episode, but it still managed to give the female counterparts their own personality, and when Lois realizes that having only daughters also has drawbacks, it lead to a hilarious epiphany. TL;DR: Malcolm in the Middle had an episode like this, but handled it way better.
this episode would have worked if done well. imagine that we would have gotten a boy, who's into fashion and shopping, and another boy, who loves princesses and wearing dresses, like their female-counterparts.
I am surprised MrEnter didn't mind 'No Such Luck' Yeah I know Lincoln was the one who said he was bad luck but still locking him out of the house and making him were a squirrel suit, that's way too harsh, is there something to that episode me and the other people who hated that episode are missing?
Maybe others are discounting it as the entire premise of the show is taking the mundane and blowing it out of proportion. If it is a dud, it's the least egregious kind of dud because it didn't really defy anything the show had already established and only really failed in delivery. Lynn is really into sports and does the whole sports ritual things for good luck, Lincoln shows up and she loses horribly, let's take this to its logical extreme and have her superstitions bleed onto every other member of the household. This, as a plot, doesn't break continuity or go out of its way to not be a Loud House episode. If we're going to liken this to pizza delivery, No Such Luck baked a passable pizza that the delivery boy dropped as he was walking to your door. One of the Boys fucked up the order and delivered a supreme when you ordered pepperoni, and the worst of the worst didn't use actual ingredients, undercooked it, and the delivery boy spit on it when he gave it to you.
Yeah that is true the continuity in this episode is so bad, none of the characters are like themselves it almost doesn't seem like a Loud House episode.
Yeah I mean I've gotten over that episode especially after 'Yes-Man' but I do find it weird that MrEnter wouldn't have a problem with the issue's in that episode.
12:52 As a girl, I can confirm this. Seriously this year I'd go into the locker room and half of the girls would be wearing each other's pants and someone's locker would be stuffed with their friend's clothes LIKE THAT'S KIND OF GROSS TO ME I DONT KNOW ABOUT YOU GUYS
"Written by: Kevin Sullivan" Ah, no wonder this episode sucks. Kevin Sullivan is one of my most hated writers in the animation industry. The worst episodes of Danny Phantom's third and final season were written by this hack.
To be fair, he only wrote four of the episodes in Season 3: Girl's Night Out, Frightmare, Boxed-Up Fury, and Claw of the Wild, although they were all bad in some way.The other episodes I personally hated from Season 3: Infinite Realms, Torrent of Terror, Livin' Large, Urban Jungle, and Phantom Planet, were either written by Butch Hartman, Mark Drop, or, in one case surprisingly, Sib Ventress (Who wrote my FAVORITE episode, My Brother's Keeper. Torrent of Terror was his episode in question, by the way).
Calling out a specific writer though is something you'll never see mr.enter do again, but I don't blame him. When people are still going on about mistakes made years ago like as if you are still currently making them, it kind of puts the brakes on doing anything similar ever again.
I'm aware, and he's absolutely in the right for choosing not to. I bring up Sullivan, however, because it appears that, 10 years later, he's learned NOTHING.
Jazzypants2007 Heh, don't worry, I'm in no rush to defend Sullivan either. A lot of his writing does come out as lazy, I'm almost disappointed mr.enter can't point out anything like that anymore, even quietly.
I don’t really mind stereotypes that much; it’s the double-standard I have a problem with. It’s how people only find a problem with female characters if there are nothing but a gender stereotype but don’t seem to mind when male characters suffer the same fate. I hate the word “social expectations". Yes, gender roles exist but they don’t really force both males and females into them. I am a male and dislike football and I don’t feel like I beat some sort of patriarchal power that wants me to like “boy stuff”.
I think in many people's experiences, social expectations are less about forcing someone to like something because their gender and more shaming them for the things they do like because their gender. Like I'm female and never truly felt pressured by the people around me into wearing makeup or trendy clothes but always felt more pressure from people when it came to my interest in video games, D&D and certain shows aimed at boys.
There's a big difference between a dude that doesn't like football and a dude that's gay, wears dresses, does makeup, etc. There ARE social expectations but they are nuanced and there's different levels to it and it can get very complicated, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
In truth, the only social expectations that I have actually really noticed or seen around me are 1: Don't be a dick for no reason. 2: Don't kill things out of barbaric savagery. 3: don't fuck things without consent. 4: Don't steal, leads into rule 1. There ya go, there's your social expectations right there, and none of 'em gots to do with being manly, unless you define manly as expressing basic self control over one's own actions
Not liking stuff associated with your gender is not on the same level as liking or doing something that's seen as contrary to your gender. I'm sure you'd be met with a lot of cruelty if you liked wearing makeup for example. I hate wearing makeup and don't receive flack for it. But I can imagine the freak out if I shaved my head: people would think I lost it.
Here's my version of The Loud Brothers Loki Loud - A chill dude who likes to look after his bros. Loni Loud - A guy with autism who is also a chill dude. Luke Loud - A successful guitarist who works at the best guitar store in Royal Woods as he gets to play in a band. Lane Loud - Became the best comedian in Royal Woods. Lynn Loud Jr. - Still the same as his female counterpart, but more brutal. Lars Loud - A successful fortune teller at his school. Leif Loud - A germaphobic clean boy instead of a dirty boy. Lexx Loud - A Prince who wants to find a girl like in a fairytale. Levi Loud - Instead of being smart, he would be the family's Leni for comedic reasons. Leon Loud - The same as his female counterpart, but having either teething issues or ADHD.
When you said that this episode could have had something potential it got me thinking. Male!Lola could have been genuinely into being a pagent queen and deal with the fact that he's doing something that's "traditionally girly" and possible gender identity issues. Alternatively, (and possibly more simply) they could play up Lola's perfectionism and have Male!Lola be a neatfreak and a control freak. Male!Lori could have been written specifically as an older, better Male!Lynn (a sports jock, in comparison to Lori's highschool girl) and Male!Lynn could have issues about this (which is a real sibling issue). And Male!Lisa could be shown to have a Dexter-esque Lab in his room and Lincoln could think this is because he's a boy, only to return to reality and find out that Lisa did in fact have a huge lab hidden in her room, with her dryly commenting that he never asked (and giving the implication that he didn't get to know his sisters enough).
Yeah, how the hell did they screw this up this badly? Especially since the big thing is that Lincoln’s personality is completely different from the brothers’; how did they not realize that not all boys are the same? In fact, as some people said below, this episode feels horribly rushed into production; both because they don’t have the time to fully develop the plot, and how flat the brothers’ personalities are.
It would've been interesting if all the brothers remained the exact same as their female counterparts, leaving Lincoln to realize that no matter if he has brothers or sisters, it'll always be the same. And it could've worked. There are guys in the real world who would be just like the sisters, but guys. It's not a far off concept of a guy dating another guy, a guy being a pageant star, a guy being into fashion and extremely generous, a guy that is nice, a guy that is goth, into science, likes bugs and frogs, plays sports, plays music, etc..
I really liked one part of this episode. The part when Lincoln Loud burps in Luan Loud's face and she acknowledges how disgusting he is for doing that.
"Some of the characters lives would be exactly the same if they were born boys, like the aforementioned Lynn or Lana." I don't know. Tomboys are girls with an interest in typically boy things, and I would think the boy version of that is being effeminate. Like the male Lana would be a neat freak and the male Lynn would be a ballerina. This gets more into the how this episode needed to be 22 minutes and more thought out.
I don't think so! Their tomboy-ish behavior isn't really influenced by their gender, but more by their personality itself! That would mean, their male versions would be the only ones that actually behave more stereotypical male, than their female versions
No? That makes no sense whatsoever. Just because your gender is the opposite doesn't mean the rest of your personality is as well, ya doofus. The character, at their core, is gonna have roughly the same interests and personality regardless of their gender. The biggest change is usually in how they express these things, changes in behaviour from social dynamics, and differences in interactions/relationships with other people through the lens of that new perspective.
The thing is that those examples aren't the same character anymore. It's not a genderswapped version of character X, but rather a counterpart for X in the opposite gender. It's a subtle difference, but it's there.
It’s a shame that a lot of cartoons and shows depict guys as “I’m a douchebag that assaults and harrasses other people because I dunno, I’m a guy.” Just a shame. That’s it. So... Yeah.
We don't get it good either. If you're a girl on a cartoon/show (with exceptions) you get to be: 1. The Perfect Model Girl 2. Lé Screeching Nag. 3. The Myth, the Legend, The White Girl Arm Candy (if you're a minority).
I like the loud house because it not only follows the only boy among many girls, but that boy happens to be the middle child. It's a point of view we don't get to see often. TV shows, especially shows for kids, usually follow the oldest or youngest child.
TBH, this episode handles like a nightmare quite well. Nightmares often feel very real and happen so fast and you just kind of take it in. Weird, but true.
you know what the episode should have been lincoln wakes up in a world where he has 10 brothers after wishing that, but he finds out his siblings act the exact same as them as boys
Imagine if like, they did the reality swap and then lincoln found that literally nothing is different except for the biological gender. not sure how the story would finish but yea lol
AKA that time Lincoln was brothers with the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles XD (though that's the only good thing I can say about it) They should bring back the Loud Bros if they ever give "Linka" her own episode ;)
I'll be honest.. I kinda thought the one episode where Lincoln thought he was causing bad luck for everyone was the worst out of all. Like how quick they believed that he was bad luck even though he was, and that in actually it turns out that, "y'know what? He IS bad luck after all." So the episode shows how much the family doesn't want him around to the point of him sleeping outside his own home.. ....I get that he lies about how much bad luck he causes early on, but it's when they say.. "Oh things have been better without you around." ........I died a little inside, drove himself out of the house to live in the backyard. Then the episode just ends with a weak twist that he can only be good luck if he's in some baseball mascot costume. All I can say is... That's not funny.
Shahrooz Smith you know?you are the only one that hates the episode without acting as if it ruins the entire show or hating all the characters for one episode,I mean,as much as I hate the episode I feel like people don't want to let it go,and its been almost a year!and wants it to be banned,what would be the accomplishments of banning it anyways?people looks at the episode as if the show is defined by this one episode and as if they wanted to show something deep about abuse,but it was just done for comedy,terribe comedy,simply thats it
Well yeah, every series has like one bad episode that nobody enjoys, like the Lars episodes from Steven Universe, or that one episode from Last Airbender where they have to go through a canyon with two different tribes that hate each other. It's like hitting the reset button after each episode (Unless it's a continuous story-arc.)
This episode seems to send the wrong message about having brothers. Being the oldest of 4 (3 boys and a girl), i respect my younger siblings and help out if they need me. Not all boys are gross, edgy and assholic. Its just depends on how they were brought up.
The only thing I liked about this episode is that the male versions of Lori, Leni, Luna, and Luan are voiced by the 2012 Ninja Turtles (which is still my favorite incarnation of the franchise) Lori (male version): Seth Green (Leonardo) Leni (male version): Sean Astin (Raphael) Luna (male version): Greg Cipes (Michaelangelo) Luan (male version): Rob Paulsen (Donatello)
Do an animated atrocity on another good show. Sym-Bioic Titan had 1 bad episode, Shadows of Youth. The bullying in that is 10X worse than in this episode.
I hope that some day we will get a show that does gender swap correctly, i don't see how it can be that hard honestly, someone's gender doesn't define their personality past an extent. Lola is the center of attention and loves everything feminine so why shouldn't her male counterpart be the same? I can't see her conforming to social standards to fit in, for example. I like the approach you took on this, you're very good at covering gender swap episodes (the futurama one too), I think you'd be able to write a very good gender swap episode because you seem to understand how they work
These are the kinds of Animated Atrocities videos that I like to see. When Enter is this calm and rational and not bitter, spiteful and/or biased; I feel like that's when he's at his best. It doesn't feel like someone ranting on the internet with nasty, destructive criticism just because he's butthurt over nothing; it feels like genuine, constructive criticism about an issue that can be addressed without losing our shit and come up with a solution. Sure, it makes the title more of a hyperbole/exaggeration than a legitimate atrocity against animation; but it also helps me take his commentary seriously. Because I'm not watching these just to reaffirm or change my thoughts just because some guy is yelling at me with conviction in his words; I watch these because, wether we agree or disagree, I want to know what the person behind the screen has to say... and be proven that their perspective has a solid reasoning. It might be just me, but I think that Enter is improving.
I think he's better with duds than just bad shows, especially when there is only one or a few duds, since you want to respect the show, but still point out it's flaws.
I finally gain the will to sleep and suddenly my phone rings and I see a new upload by enter , agasint my better judgment I must watch because it is my duty .
I hate that every time a black person shows up its the fault of SJWs than just its a black character. If Riri was a white man would that be better? When would it be okay to have a comic set in the future with a skin tone/ gender successor? I think anti-SJW only look at skin tone instead of character because I like Riri's character.
I love how you don't just sit there bashing bad episodes. You actually tell us what's bad about it, instead of just saying it sucks and couldn't be done better.
Someone should rewrite this episode and make each experience for lincoln the exact same, since the characters should still have the same personality, reguardless of their gender
On this episodes defense, this was Lincoln's depiction of how his life would be if he had brothers. He never knew what brothers acted like. His imagination made them act like Lynn because she acts more boy-ish then most characters, besides Lana. So if they do exist in their own universe I argue they would have similar personalities to the sisters. Just a thought.
@6:40 "Lincoln isn't the 'I'm a boy' stereotype. Yeah he likes video games and comics but... He just hasn't been written like that." *Doesn't elaborate on point further* I'm not saying he's wrong in saying that, he just didn't make a point. He said something and just kinda bailed and never gave evidence of Lincoln just being 'boy' in a group.
Wow. You hit the nail on the head with the main problem of this episode. I am SO glad someone pointed out the problem with these stereotypes. I’m a woman but I get really irritated seeing men and boys stereotyped in this way. Even if you don’t care about gender stereotypes, these kind of portrayals are just lazy and dated at the very LEAST.
"He has 10 Lynns." That would be a great episode. Lincoln is asked who his favorite sibling is, sent into a bunch of alternate realities where all of the siblings have the personality of one, and the moral is that you shouldn't pick favorite.
Considering she’s the best character, I would PAY to watch that. That is an awesome idea.
10 Loris: All 10 sisters are a bunch of phoneaholics who can't stop talking about their partners. "OMG, Bobby, texting, literally."
10 Lenis: All 10 sisters are a bunch of Valley Girl airheads who say "like" to Shaggy levels. "I got a new outfit for half-off, which is weird because half of it wasn't off."
10 Lunas: All 10 sisters are a bunch of rockers who already formed a metal band.
10 Luans: All 10 sisters are a bunch of pranksters who can't stop one-upping each other with bad puns.
10 Lynns: All 10 sisters are a bunch of sports-loving fanatics who constantly fight over sport teams.
10 Lucys: All 10 sisters are a bunch of goths.
10 Lolas: All 10 sisters are a bunch of pageant stars.
10 Lanas: All 10 sisters are a bunch of mud-loving maniacs.
10 Lisas: All 10 sisters are a bunch of insufferable geniuses.
10 Lilys: All 10 sisters are a bunch of whiny crybabies.
Jason Zheng wahhhhhhh
Lynn jr is not the best character or sister in the show.
What about Lanas for being gross
It would have been cool if Lincoln's brothers were EXACTLY the same as their female counterparts. This would show Lincoln that it doesn't matter if his siblings are male or female, he would still have to deal with them and their differing personalities the same as he had before. Also, I absolutely love the idea about how male Lola would get along with the same personality as female Lola. An episode dedicated to that would have been awesome as a follow-up to the "brothers" universe (or whatever we can all it).
uh the genderswap universe?
thank you to give me another fix fic!
That's a great idea!
@@jacindaellison3363 This episode could have worked if it started with Lincoln going to dimension with the Loud Brothers that way the writers can use the eleven minutes to work on their personalities.
Well, everything about the boys is true, but your version could make sense ...
Actually, what bothered me with that episode is that the theme song specifically says "One boy, ten girls: wouldn't trade it for the world" and then... he trades it.
... okay.
Out of context, that line sounds really fucking bad XD
max larsen When ya think about it.
For a world
@@WerehogFan18 More like betrayal.
Shame on you, Lincoln. Shame!
@@OttoVonGarfield Don't look too deep into it.
One of the worst parts of that episode is that the Loud Brothers treat Lincoln like Garbage, but when he wakes up as a girl they treat him with decency. That's like saying "you can mistreat little kids as long as they are boys because they are okay with rough housing".
Is even worse.
It follows what Mr.Enter (paraphrasing) pointed out about the episode being lazy.If there had been consistency, there would have treated the female lincoln equally.
HECK if they had put effort female lincoln would have probably had more guts and bravery considering she would have had to put up with 10 brothers and not the kind of some at least would treat you nicely, some wouldn't" but the kind of all being bullies
STEROTYPES
I'll be honest, I think this premise might have gotten more mileage if Lincoln had also been gender-swapped in the other reality. Maybe see the other siblings, who he at first thought were more masculine and boyish from seeing into the world before he goes, but then they turn out to be as protective and coddling as his/her sisters, which would teach him this isn't something his sisters do because they're girls, it's just how siblings are, especially to the one who they (think they) don't know as well due to the gender difference.
*sigh*...yeah i picked up on that
@kristian rikardsen What are talking about?
It's like that scene from Sonic Boom.
"You know Amy, every time someone calls attention to the breaking of gender norms it undermines the message of equality by implying that this is the exception and not the status quo."
What the fuck?
Wait they actually said that in the show?
In Sonic Boom, yeah.
U. Reverie In the context of a sonic cartoon that quote is really clever and hilarious at the same time.
Slendyproject made funnier by the fact that Knuckles said it.
Maybe this episode would have been better if Lincoln was faced with the different problems he would have with his sisters normally, but wrongly associated these problems with the fact that they were sisters. Then in the "alternate universe" dream, he realizes that those conflicts aren't gender conflicts, but personality conflicts. And when things are a bit different because of how being a boy might affect a certain character, he would notice that the conflict didn't go away even with those changes, since the core personality stayed the same.
A really good replacement for this episode.
And yes, I am replying to this comment a year late.
Year late or not, what you wrote is what this episode should have been.
Reminds me of the episode from Malcolm in the Middle titled "If Boys Were Girls", which is an example of this premise done right. It has basically what you said, where when the mom imagines her sons as daughters, they at first seem like pleasant, better people, when in reality their problems are just displayed in different ways, and she comes to the realization that she likes her children the way they are. A great watch.
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can we just all agree to hate episodes where the moral is basically "yeah your life is shit but look how much more shit it could be if it was like this!"
agreed [and, uh, liked!]
Seriously its a lazy message
As I get older and older, yeah.
I hate these so much.
idk “the algae’s always greener” is one of my fav episodes of spongebob. Maybe it works bc Plankton is a villain character
@@tiablue9106 And how Mr. Krabs is also pretty immoral tbh
Remember the episode of MALCOLM IN THE MIDDLE where the mother imagined having daughters instead of sons. She imagined that her life would be worse as the girls wouldn't respect her and tend to use her.
0deadx21 She got the same result. Or was it worse, can’t remember. Either way she didn’t like it. She thought ‘girls are supposed to be easy’
@@siloPIRATE I mean if they weren't stereotypes it would be more fine
she should have known better since she grew up with a sister
Yeah I remember Hal was fat in her fantasy.
It would've been a really good moral had the Loud brothers kept their original personalities because it would've shown that Lincoln couldn't escape that general feeling of overbearing just because they're boys.
MHS0501 agreed,I honestly thought that was the episode is going for before I watched it
I agree, It would have been funny if it was all his thinking that them being boys would make a difference. After all changing gender doesn't change their characters. As kids we tend to think "Ew girls" and "Boys are from Jupiter to get more stupider". So if Lincoln felt like having brothers would be better because you know the way we think as children, it would be both relatable and touching when He finds out from the dream.. oh yeah changing gender doesn't make much difference.
That completely fixes the episode and teaches kids that just because you think things will be different if some things change, doesn't mean it will.
that... probably would have worked better. They could have given them very slight changes that he initially picks up on because of how well he knows his original sisters, and that makes him think things will be different, but it soon becomes apparent that they're still really the same people and thus the problems he was having with them haven't gone away.
🅱️oi
The concept of genderbent Louds would've been cool if they weren't boy stereotypes. Also Rob Paulsen as Lane manages to sound like Coconut Fred and Donatello at the same time, despite hating voicing the former.
Lane is lana's counterpart? the rocker' (i know the show, but i haven't watched it that much)
Woudn't the male counterpart (at least in a kinda lazy kinda putting effort) would be one of the kindest brothers and be the one with a more "effeminate" style (something like Prince of Michael Jackson style) while also liking rock.?
Lane was Luans counterpart. (The joker).
genderbent characters will always be stereotypes in my opinion
Rob Paulsen actually started off as Raphael in the 1987 Ninja Turtles series. Then he voiced Donatello in the 2012 series. So when you look at it he voiced not one but two different Turtles during the course of his voice acting career. Pretty cool right?!🐢
Lincoln Loud: Girl Guru proves that not all girls are the same, so the same should go for boys, though this episode completely ignores that and it just seems cruel. The only thing I liked about this episode is that Lincoln's four older brothers have the TMNT 2012 voice actors.
Contrary the Contrarian I suppose so, I just wish this episode took 22 minutes as well, so we can see more of Lincoln's brothers.
Karl Julien I agree. Speaking of which TMNT2012 is an awesome show
Carl Bloke Personally, I think it's the best TMNT incarnation.
Karl Julien I thought Girl Guru would be the Animated Atrocity.
Eren Yeager Yep, and Sean Astin voiced Loni.
"this girl can do it just like the boys!"
You know, any time someone calls attention to the breaking of gender roles, it ultimately undermines the concept of gender equality by implying that this is an exception and not the status quo.
...I feel like Sonic Boom gets too much crap for how surprisingly clever it can be.
Sonic Boom was a dang good cartoon.
Didn’t watch much Sonic Boom but I think it was dragged down by the game
This episode 5% offended me cause its saying that this is what men act like. farting all the time, rude and only like sport and mud. not all dudes act this way
Sonic Boom was an example of how good writing can save an otherwise terrible concept.
Based Sonic Boom! Haha
With the Loud House, I don't see Lincoln as "the boy," I see him as "the geek." He does more than just "like comic books," he cosplays, goes to conventions, makes fanfics as part of a contest, etc. and doesn't get ribbed for it "because it's boyish" but because "it's geeky."
catholiccontriversy Tru dat
The typical weeb that knows not to make it weird.
Yes
catholiccontriversy i want to give him some steroids, dude needs to get ripped
Charlie Clark
Umm...
Okay???
Loki: Leonardo's voice (after it changed)
Loni: Raphael's voice
Luke: Michelangelo's voice
Lane: Donatello's voice
How the hell did I discovered that the four oldest boys of the boy version of the Loud House sound just like the Ninja Turtles
The 2012 animated TV reboot. 👍
@@mr.decencykeepinitreal6348
The 2017 animated reboot 👎
@@jooree7696 Mm-hmm, damn right.
@@mr.decencykeepinitreal6348 2012 and 1987 also had two turtles with the same voice. His name is Robert Paulsen.
@@dannythomas417 One of my most favorite voice acting legends.
As a dude this episode is so bland because it takes one stereotype to the extreme. I get grossed out easily and hate roughing with my bros (but I do love sports). I bet a female counterpart of me would be the same way. This episode should've had character development and been a 22 min special.
Like your profile picture.
It’s kinda like with me in a way. When I was a kid I loved boy things especially video games, card games and action figures. A lot of girls used to tease me cause I should care about dolls and tea parties. That’s another bland stereo type.
@@carolinebergin4633 Sorry to hear that.
I feel this episode was made because Nick required them to make an episode like this.
Zlmbo That would explain why they rerun this episode frequently.
Which is ironic, considering how they treat boys and/or men in their other programs, and occasionally here as well.
The Loud House writers are trash
Gumball Watterson Can you elaborate why? Just wanna hear your reasons
I doubt it
8:45 But don't half of his sisters love Dairyland? Continuity issue right there, like Lola being able/unable to read or the kiddy table only existing in 'Homespun' and 'A tale of two tables'
Ditto 73 Maybe they just didn’t feel like it. 🤔
The show seems to be static, meaning that real time for some reason doesn't apply. But, I don't really know though, so there's that.
@@redornament3248 Well, except for Season 5. They're gonna get aged a year. Lori's gonna go to college, so we might get a shift.
Well, for the Lola part, she never said she was *unable* to read in "Read Aloud", just that she found it hard.
@@meowpoint1403 That makes sense. Reading a few words is very different to reading a whole book.
Do you think theyd do an episode where the girls, fed up with Lincoln being the boy in the house (maybe different rules for him, he doesnt have to share a room, etc), they wish he was born a girl- at first they love having a eleventh sister, but then they start to miss Lincoln around, like the girl Lincoln is just that- another sister and just a female Lincoln- they begin to realize they actually like having a brother as opposed to a house full of girls?
I remember going on a huge rant about this episode over at the Alpha Jay Show when he asked whether One of the Boys or Sibling Tsunami from My Life as a Teenage Robot was better. I think it applies well here so I'll copy/paste.
*WARNING: INCOMING WALL*
As someone who is a huge fan of The Loud House, One of the Boys is just...bad, especially for the amount of possibilities it had and the roads it could have gone down. Making male versions of the sisters could have been a great way to put a spin on already established characters, but barring Lynn, they all just fall flat and outright go against how they acted as sisters, and not in the ways that men are different than women. We're talking huge breaks in character that don't make any sense. In fact, I'll just list all the gripes I have with this episode to truly hit home as to why I hate it.
First off, the male versions of all the sisters. They range from tolerable to completely out of character, barring Lynn, who is really more of a joke (literally the exact same, even the same voice actress). The least offending versions other than Lynn are probably Leif (Lana), Leon (Lily), and to an extent Loki (Lori), only because they act the most similar to their normal versions (Leif is still a rough and dirty little kid, Leon is still just a baby, and Loki is still stuck-up, bossy, and generally comes across as mean but wise), but they still have the same glaring problems in that they are overtly mean-spirited and cruel, as well as unnecessarily disgusting (even for a male version of Lana).
Lane (Luan), Lars (Lucy), Lexx (Lola), and Levi (Lisa) are in a sort of middle ground where while they are still for the most part in-character, the actions they take don't really seem fitting for said character. Lucy, as a goth, is usually a loner, and someone who people generally don't notice. I just don't see a male version going along with all the rough-housing, the piling, and the gross stuff. He'd more likely just sit on the side and watch at most or more likely just go away. The same could be said about Levi. Being a prodigy, Lisa’s character is very mentally mature, and devotes her time almost entirely to science. While she does sometimes break this, it’s pretty much standard that she doesn’t like partaking in such uncouth ways (unless it’s for science), and I don’t see that being different in Levi. Also, can I ask why Levi plays keep-away with the dimension-crossing watch? Wouldn’t he notice that it at least wasn’t a regular watch? That it’s something that would probably be almost exactly like his own work? While I can definitely see Lexx getting physical with the rest of the brothers, I refuse to believe that a male version of freakin’ LOLA would go along with all the farting, nose-picking, and other disgusting things the brothers do in this episode. I GUESS I can see Lane doing all those things, save for the cruelty part (though that applies to all the sisters) and the inverse wedgie, but I don’t know it just seems…wrong and unfitting.
And then there’s Loni (Leni) and Luke (Luna). The ONLY thing the male versions of Leni and Luna share with their normal selves are their standard traits, dumb blonde and rocker. That’s it. They are completely different in every other way. Leni is portrayed as dumb but with a huge heart, and is by far the nicest person in the family. So why would the male version of her be a thoughtless jerk who laughs at Lincoln getting a swirly instead of trying to help him? Or stop the other brothers from dogpiling Lincoln or their father? Or not try to comfort Lincoln when he’s hurt? This is the male version of the girl who ignored her fear of spiders to save one’s life for her brother, and the girl who wanted to take care of her siblings with the flu instead of avoiding them at all costs. It just doesn’t make any lick of sense. I get that guys generally aren’t as sensitive as girls, but kindness is one of Leni’s defining traits. Why would the male version be any different?
And then there’s Luke, who is by far the biggest offender. Luna is also one of the kindest siblings in the house, second only to Leni. She’s the one who rarely gets angry, the one who always go to her siblings’ first concerts to try and make them good experiences (despite ruining them), and the one who’s arguably closest to Lincoln. So naturally, that means Luke would give Lincoln swirlies and flush his favorite stuffed animal down the toilet. Are you serious? Is this a joke? Why out of all the siblings that did this, why did they choose Luna of all people? If it was Lynn you could have at least said it was somewhat in-character, but Luna? That directly contradicts who she is as a person! It’s a huge break in character, and while Loni wasn’t exactly the nicest person to Lincoln in this episode, he at least didn’t go out of his way to actively hurt Lincoln!
The problem with the Loud Brothers is just what Alpha said in the video: the writers played it too safe. Instead of giving the brothers some depth and parallels to their female selves, they chose the easiest and safest way out. They kept them to their barebones traits and threw in unneeded and superfluous amounts of toilet humor. It’s like they took all the sisters, threw them into the Rule 63 machine, cloned Lynn, killed that clone, got 9 big scoops of brain, and put it into the skulls of the other 9. It’s like they all have a male Lynn filter on them. I like Lynn, don’t get me wrong, but one is more than enough. The toilet humor is too frequent, immature, and cringe-inducing. The cruelty is out of character for all of them, even Lynn.
One quick thing to note is that in one scene the sisters act very oddly compared to what we know about them. One of the examples Lincoln gives to Clyde about it being tough having all those sisters is his proposing of going to the Dairy Land Amusement Park getting immediately shot down by all the sisters, which is strange because the tenth episode of the series (One of the Boys is #45, mind you) revolved around half the sisters (Luna, Luan, Lynn, Lana, and Lisa) trying to CONVINCE Lincoln to go to Dairy Land! Why would these same characters immediately shoot down Lincoln’s request when it’s proven that all five of them like going to the place, or at least prefer it to the beach?
Perhaps this episode’s biggest flaw is the complete waste of potential. So much could have been done here, and yet the route they went with was, well, horrible. I have two ideas in my head that would have made this episode so much more enjoyable. First, they could have gone the same route, but better. Scrap the whole “boys are disgusting and are assholes and that’s it” angle and have Lincoln go through a sort of fish out of water story. The brothers can still roughhouse and be a bit dirty (guys do both, after all. I should know, I am one), but don’t put it on so much. The message could have been that, because Lincoln grew up surrounded by ten sisters, he would have been much more accustomed to that life. Because he doesn’t know what it’s like to even have one brother, let alone ten, he could have decided that it just wasn’t for him and leave. Heck, maybe in the end he could run into Linka who did the exact same thing he did and felt the same about having 10 sisters after growing up with 10 brothers. Alternatively, Lincoln could see that barely anything would have truly changed, and realized that dealing with siblings comes with problems, no matter their gender. Maybe in this version he’d figure it out quickly but the watch Lisa made would get destroyed, thus he would go to Levi and request help, and the rest of the episode would revolve around the two of them making sure a new watch gets made within the 24-hour time limit. Both scenarios would also preferably be double episodes, simply because a situation like this would require more time to develop correctly, but it would be a much better end product compared to what we got.
Now with that being said, this episode did do a few things I like. Getting the TMNT cast to voice the oldest brothers was a really cool easter egg, and I felt that they were very fitting (especially for Luke and Lane). It’s just a shame that they had to play complete jerks. I also really liked that the parents swapped the colors of their clothes, with the dad in pink and the mom in green. It was a nice, subtle touch. Again, I really like a male Lynn being a complete joke. All in all though, it isn’t enough to save this episode.
Okay, rant over.
I died
I warned you.
These are exactly my thoughts on this episode. Not bad as No Such Luck but still bad
Walumancer the Wahfather and what did you expect from kevin sullivan, the same asshole who ruined the fairy oddparents?
The TMNT VA's was a neat Easter egg, but I feel they had some bad miscasting. If I recall, they made Raphael's Actor play Leni's stand in, instead of maybe the Luna or Lynn expy, and he's not really suited to playing a ditzy/dim-but-kind (relatively speaking for the brothers) character like Mikey's actor Greg Cripes. Rob Paulsen as Luane's stand in works, but I partially attribute that to Paulsen have so many roles under his belt in general, including, ironically/fittingly enough, being a previous TMNT Raphael Voice before returning as Donnie for 2012.
It just feels like an Easter Egg that, while neat, wasn't thought through enough to make it work, because when then I start to hear Raph through a character that is decidedly not Raph (or at least much less than other characters he could be playing). I guess it's not as pronounced since none of the guys have deep enough characters for this to persist, but it's something that I couldn't shake once I picked the voices out.
They could've done the episode except make the all guy version exactly the same and then Lincoln realizes "It's not the fact that I have 10 sisters it's the fact that we just have different opinions." or something like that. The episode would've been good.
Can we at least agree that Lincon eating peanut butter with his fingers is disgusting.
I mean he puts his fingers in there and later someone will eat from that jar
Luan: "That's all for sports, and now the weather."
[Lincoln burps into Luan's face.]
Luan: "It's cloudy with a chance of... You're disgusting."
For some people it's disgusting, for others it's no big deal. It's not a problem about, if this is objectively disgusting (which it can't be since disgust is a subjective perception), it's a problem about how considerate you are of someone's feelings. Maybe you don't find it disgusting, if you're eating PB with your fingers, but you family members really don't like it. In this case, it's not very considerate to just not give a fuck about what everyone else who has to live with you and your decisions thinks. You have to compromise for your own good when living together with other people. A family with different people with different personal preferences and comfort zones only works, if you're able to compromise.
Considering that there's 13 people in that house, I wouldnt want to have what any of them touched in my mouth when I make a sandwich
Morphstar changeling I haven't seen the show & I think it's disgusting.
And this one plays ALL THE DAMN TIME!
Hell Inspector I'll be that's because it has the main cast of their best show, teenage mutant ninja turtles
Hell Inspector I haven't seen the episode once. I need to find the right time and see how bad the episode is for myself.
Right, sometimes when i'm bored enough I'll watch it until the next episode comes on but I'm never happy about it.
Flashy Starwinger ALL THE DAMN TIME
It's wasted potential
I've always thought this episode would've been leagues better if Lincoln's brothers had all been near identical to their female counterparts - as in the only difference at all being their gender. It could've been both an interesting character study as you said, as well as a nice subversion of the more "boys vs. girls" vibe I get from the episode as is. Not changing their personalities almost at all could have been an interesting message about how gender doesn't necessarily have any connection to how people act and with no difference other than having to learn different names, Lincoln would think "why even bother traversing dimensions? I'll just go back to my sisters".
One of the best gender swaps is Adventure Time's Fiona and Cake episodes because their personalities aren't really changed all that much. Differences are usually small and make sense to the individual and the world they exist in. They also managed this in very short episodes. This LH episode could have done something more interesting with the main character realizing that whether he had ten sisters or ten brothers things wouldn't change all that much for him because the characters would've largely still acted the same. It would have provided a much better learning experience for him in the end as well.
powerstar 2028 naw
See with the main characters your right but I didn’t like how they did pb gumball was portrayed as a wimpy weird guy while pb is shown as super smart super badass and super capable, pg was shown as not capable loses chess to a candy, and weird shows to like being sat on?? Also they guys were all trying to get with Fiona while the girl version just wanted to be friends
powerstar 2028 you must be dumb
Honestly, I always interpreted it as Lincoln's exaggeration of the idea of having Brother's, or at the very least, what he thought Brother's should/would be like. Since it was a dream, and mostly seen as a nightmare, I looked at it as Lincoln taking all the traits he was scolded for in the episode being "the boy he is", and wrapping it into all 10 of his sisters as guys, obviously making them very.. Cookie cutter and no longer individual. In reality, even though the likelihood of a swap episode is small, I would hope the "brothers" would keep the same character traits as the sisters do.
I know right I feel like a lot of people only dislike this episode because it "sterotypes boys" but it was just a figment of Lincoln's imagination
Also keep in mind it isn't feasible to develop 10 characters who share pretty much the same screen time. Making the Loud brothers stereotypes was the most reasonable option they have. Could they they try to make some of them a little more distinctive, yes but they wouldn't be that great of characters regardless. The writers was in a loose loose situation the more I think about this episode.
"Also keep in mind it isn't feasible to develop 10 characters who share pretty much the same screen time."
Except that they literally did exactly that in the first episode of the fucking show...
Laura Dubois
Yeah but it only takes one thing to ruin entire episode. Especially when that problem is rampant throughout the entire episode
Savannah Neider maybe and in real life or as non fiction that's a fine excuse, but this is media made specifically to entertain, and because of that it should know better. It doesn't get a realism excuse when it is intentionally created and can be scanned and corrected if it has bad implications
I almost feel spoiled by the amount of uploads we've been getting recently. Makes me smile every time I get the notification for a review. Keep up the great work Mr. Enter!
GravewalkerGaming same
Internet Troll: this, is a Shitshow in the making.
Me: DEAR GOD.
Internet Troll: there's more.
Me: NO.
TF2 reference?
Honestly I'm surprised at the upload rate, he seemed pretty messed up in his channel update. I'm glad for him, of course, just really surprised at how quickly he seems to have recovered.
Feature Length What happened to him in his update?
What's funny is that I have brothers and non of them act like the Loud brothers.
Shnobbs Man I do
I have two older brothers and non of them act like the Loud brother either they're very nice and I'm a boy (The Loud brothers only seen to be nice to Linka because she's a girl)
That’s probably because your brothers are people who have character instead of being walking stereotypes as the loud brothers are.
Bobby Ferg stereotypes exist because they're facts
The Juicy Jedi jester Ha ha sure they are
Seriously this episode felt super rushed.
I really agree. And without a doubt, one of the worst episodes of the show.
Ikr
@@kademarsee9496 While I do agree that No Such Luck *is* the worst episode ever, but there's another episode I hate even more: Brawl In The Family.
So it's like 'Fionna and Cake', but done with stereotypes.
I agree.
SuperFloxes but fionna and cake is a better episode
Actually it is more of a generic gender swap episode, but sure
And Is An Ice King fanfic
The boys are so unlikeable. This episode is terrible and is like a bad fan fic
That's... actually a really good description. It's like something a ten year old girl on Wattpad would make.
Mario And Love Ya PlushMasters I know what you mean. I've heard about *THAT* fanfic.
*THAT* fanfic? If you go on Wattpad, I'm sure there will be way more incest than just *THAT*.w
JSD I think this episode is BASED off of a fan fic!
This episode is based off of fanart.
My main problem with this episode is that it's exhaustingly stereotypical. I'm male, and I am NOTHING like Lincoln's genderbend sisters. This episode definitely gets a skip for me, and thanks for reviewing this, finally someone has sense and finds this episode offensive, yet exhaustingly awful in every way, shape, and form.
Asap Toastyy's Dubs The one thing that gets me the most is this episode's obsession with guys being gross af.
+yarpen26 me too. That's the main thing I hated about this episode xP we're not all gross jerks who enjoy fart jokes and stuff like that xP
Generally, toilet humor is the one thing I hate the most about TLH as a whole. It's just not necessary and not funny for anyone above the age of six. Unless you're Canadian that is (Total Drama Island Season 1 was simply impossible for me to finish watching because of it).
+yarpen26 Completely agree..it's one of my least favourite things about TLH, and kids television in general xP
Frankly, I'm pretty sure I have more in common with Lincoln's sisters (whether the Tomboys or the more feminine ones) than the Brothers (or the one brother cloned). Contrary to what most would think, a lot of guys don't enjoy gross out for gross out's sake past the age of 8 when it's more about getting attention, because the basic human instinct of being disgusted and repulsed by it starts to seep in.
The other interesting thing about the Loud Sisters for me is that they have differing facets within their "trope" that makes it possible to relate to each in part without squarely falling into one match, something the brothers' don't permit when there's no varation in their already shallow characters.
It's hard to believe Chris Griffin, Samwise Gamgee, Beast Boy and Yakko Warner were Lincoln's older brothers.
Reagan DeFriece So, you're saying Seth Green(Chris Griffin), Greg Cipes (Beast Boy), Rob Paulsen (Yakko Warner), Sean Astin (Sam from Lord of the Rings), were all in this episode? what wasted potential.
@@shawnfields2757 Family Guy and Teen Titans Go are the worst shows ever. It's not Seth and Greg's fault. They just don't have a very good taste.
that's because all of them share their voices with the 2012 Ninja Turtles
If only it had been about Lincoln learning that both worlds had their own problems as well as perks, and that his life really wouldn't have been any different. Minor tweaks at best. There are problems in every family and he should just be grateful for what he ended up with. It honestly would've been a better way to learn his sisters butting in is their way of caring than them forcing the awful idea into his head that being beat up is a sign the opposite gender likes you. It's also better than implying that all males are hell to live with.
Growing up, my brother was my best friend. Surprise surprise, I'm a girl. My grandma also grew up in a family of exactly 13, and would consider this episode bologna. She herself smashed a BB gun over one of her brothers' heads because he left it in her way one too many times, and would easily agree girls don't default to angels just as much as boys don't default to hellions.
Mortal Anonymous..
Why wasn't an episode made where one of the sisters got a slight injury and the other sisters began overreacting and started applying heavy medical procedures like what they did to Lincoln in Heavy Meddle?
How ironic that we get a Loud House review just a couple of weeks before the creator got fired.
Benjamin Abramowitz I can't believe Mr. Enter fired him.
Benjamin Abramowitz really???
@@nataliahuerta1588 Yup.
@Benjamin Abramowitz It’s Enter’s Curse
How
The worst part of this episode is how they literally did the same thing to Lincoln. At the end of the episode, Lincoln wakes up to find that he still has his brothers, but has changed into a girl. And we see that his entire ROOM has changed into the stereotypical little girl room. It's so out of place along with the rest of the episode. They could have at least added Lincoln's comic books into the mix just so we see that he's still the same- but no, when he did get changed into a girl, from his room in general. They changed him into a mix between Leni and Lola, even if it was only for 30 seconds, it still said so much about how terrible the episode was.
I am glad to see Mr. Enter has recovered from Big Mouth.
das faq we all are
Ugh, I keep seeing advertisements for the show. As someone who wants to avoid it like the plague, it gets really annoying.
So basically this episode is a rule 63 episode like Cake and Fiona, but done terribly wrong lol
What's Rule 63?
I bet you don't want me to find out.
the movie guru rule 63 is gender swaps lol
@@audsrose Oh, I see it now. Thanks.
I wonder if Rule 63 is either a good or bad impact on movies, books, TV, or comics, though.
the movie guru
Depends on how it’s written.
"Girls steal clothes too"
*Slowly raises hand*
Erin bo1 *also lifts slowly hand*
Mirai Zuraaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!! *quickly snatched clothes*
Erin bo1 My paternal aunt used to steal toys from my dad and uncle when they were all kids.
Mr. Enter in 2017: "I actually didn't mind No Such Luck."
Mr. Enter in 2022: "This episode is awful. FUCKING awful."
I knew it was horrible when I saw it (no such luck) , and was surprised that enter said he didn’t mind in in this video. I guess enter was too optimistic of the series or distracted by other bad episodes before realizing the awe fullness and cruelty of no such luck
Great Analysis by way
I have the big brother and he is ten times more mature then gender-swap Loud's sisters
Steven Universe, Dipper Pines and Finn the Human have very mature in the pass seasons
This episode reminders me MLP season 2: *Dragon Quest* When Spike joins Great Dragon Migration to lean how to be man I mean dragon .
Amolina44 Come to think of it, this episode does have a lot of the same problems as Dragon Quest. In a show with female main characters who aren’t defined by their gender, we have to endure male characters entirely defined by their gender, giving negative implications about males.
I don’t like dipper, but I agree he is more mature than the 10 brothers
Stephen Brown
Exactly! That stuff pisses me off
You mean a mean dragon ;) ;)
At least with MLP, future episodes show it to be an all encompassing dragon problem and not just a male dragon problem.
When you wake up before enter uploads.
I woke up at 2:00 am and i'm still wide awake.
Cyber Kirby I see you and I have the same tastes. :P
When you don't sleep at all
Kind of reminds me of the Role Swap episode of The Amazing World of Gumball. Where all of a sudden Nicole wasn't promoted because she was a woman, and Gumball suddenly was unable to act feminine in any capacity or cry... when Nicole has a temper problem and bad luck, and Gumball once dressed and acted like a Valley Cheerleader. It bend the show backwards JUST for their "message".
Nionivek Not really. That episode of Gumball tries to satire gender stereotypes but it's not subtle, it's really not a "gender-swap" episode. It reminds me more of a bad Family Guy episode if anything. Gumball and Darwin not being allowed to cry and Nicole not being promoted is the point, even if it fails.
I don't think those two episodes are comparable. The Worst fail for different reasons.
N-A-S-T-Y. This is one of the worst things that can happen when you don't care about consistency. It's like Are You Happy Now taking away a piece of the entire show's style or characters. Maybe The Worst should also be an atrocity video. Just its title is very indicative of that. July 5, 2018, 5:06pm
Aren't all ten of the Loud sisters already stereotypes? There's the science nerd who talks with a lisp, the creepy goth girl, the sports-loving jock with bad hygiene, etc.
But they aren't all GIRL stereotypes or worse the same one stereotype. Everyone that seen the episode, love it or hate it, all agree that the Loud Brothers all act like Lynn.
They aren't "the chick" stereotype. Some of them have interests associated with girls, but they have characteristics other than "lacks Y chromosome". Plus, they were all made to be distinct characters. Compare that to their Rule 63 counterparts, who are all just "Lulz, boyz be rude n crude". The only things that set them apart from one-another are their ages, clothes, and hair.
OMFG YES, THE LOUD FAMILY IS A BUNCH OF TWO-DIMENSIONAL CHARACTERS, ESPECIALLY LINCOLN'S SISTERS!!!!!!! THEY *ARE* GENDER STEREOTYPES!!!!!! YEAH, I SAID IT!!!!!!!
That's not what he meant, he meant that all the Loud brothers were stereotypes to their gender not to their personalities
Also, the Loud Sisters are heavily base don stereotypes, but besides the mentioned difference of just being general tropes instead of the girl-gender idea, they also get more characterization within (or besides depending on the episode) that trope. Obviously they've had the whole series to work with, but the Loud Brothers are 10 instances of one stereotype and not even token distinctions.
"God, what's your damage, bro?"
throwing heathers references into this doesn't help, episode
g ruch
Coming to you never:
Heathers: The Musical
_Alternate Loud House Edition!!_
Including:
Beautiful - Lincoln Loud
Candy Store - Loki Loud, Luke Loud, Loni Loud
Kindergarten Boyfriend - Bebe Santiago
_And many more!_
-(I actually spent time on this)-
g ruch He lost a bet in Sodom, didn't take it to well. He once had water splashed on Him by a few gay guys back in the day, He flooded the earth. Lost a bet in Haiti twice, gave it an earthquake and hurricane, and finally America is treating Him like a bitch, America ain't gonna be around much longer, I think He's setting the Yellowstone Volcano off soon, that's His damage, as for me, I'm heading for Petra, peace out, bros
What's up with saying "hey not just boys can do this, girls can do this too!" Saying that pretty much underminds your statement by default cause you are saying that this situation is the only exception and that THAT isnt how it was suppoused to be in the first place.
Oh hi there Knuckles.
TheMrDanieloco ya damn right, Knuckles.
Binch you stole that from Knuckles from Sonic Boom, and you know it.
TheMrDanieloco “What, just because I’m a meathead doesn’t mean I’m not a feminist.”
That's why I appreciate Kim Possible and (I know this is controversial) Steven Universe. The females in general are just strong smart characters. They don't have to prove it or try to be more like the guys.
The only time I've seen the gender swap trope work was on Malcolm in the Middle, where Lois fantasized about having daughters instead of sons. Granted, it was the subplot of the episode, but it still managed to give the female counterparts their own personality, and when Lois realizes that having only daughters also has drawbacks, it lead to a hilarious epiphany.
TL;DR: Malcolm in the Middle had an episode like this, but handled it way better.
As Always, don’t forget about Female Francis! 😂👍
@@ariadaynes2528 oh don't worry I didn't 😂👍
And Codename Kids Next Door on the animation side.
this episode would have worked if done well. imagine that we would have gotten a boy, who's into fashion and shopping, and another boy, who loves princesses and wearing dresses, like their female-counterparts.
A male and female should have a similar personality, if they are the same person.
Have to agree, Luna is my favorite character of the show as well.
Logandactyl Mine are Luan and Lisa
Mine is Luna as well
Spongebob Squarepants Lincoln is a close second for me
Logandactyl luna and Luanne
Logandactyl Leni and Luna are my favorites!
I am surprised MrEnter didn't mind 'No Such Luck' Yeah I know Lincoln was the one who said he was bad luck but still locking him out of the house and making him were a squirrel suit, that's way too harsh, is there something to that episode me and the other people who hated that episode are missing?
Maybe others are discounting it as the entire premise of the show is taking the mundane and blowing it out of proportion. If it is a dud, it's the least egregious kind of dud because it didn't really defy anything the show had already established and only really failed in delivery. Lynn is really into sports and does the whole sports ritual things for good luck, Lincoln shows up and she loses horribly, let's take this to its logical extreme and have her superstitions bleed onto every other member of the household. This, as a plot, doesn't break continuity or go out of its way to not be a Loud House episode.
If we're going to liken this to pizza delivery, No Such Luck baked a passable pizza that the delivery boy dropped as he was walking to your door. One of the Boys fucked up the order and delivered a supreme when you ordered pepperoni, and the worst of the worst didn't use actual ingredients, undercooked it, and the delivery boy spit on it when he gave it to you.
Yeah that is true the continuity in this episode is so bad, none of the characters are like themselves it almost doesn't seem like a Loud House episode.
Bryan Werntz
I honestly can respect this guy's opinion but I did not like No Such Luck.
Yeah I mean I've gotten over that episode especially after 'Yes-Man' but I do find it weird that MrEnter wouldn't have a problem with the issue's in that episode.
This was probably the worst concept in Loud House. It is unrelatable and made everyone an idiot.
12:52 As a girl, I can confirm this.
Seriously this year I'd go into the locker room and half of the girls would be wearing each other's pants and someone's locker would be stuffed with their friend's clothes
LIKE THAT'S KIND OF GROSS TO ME I DONT KNOW ABOUT YOU GUYS
Pray that someone doesn't invade you're locker too..
Pray that someone doesn't invade your locker too..
"Written by: Kevin Sullivan" Ah, no wonder this episode sucks. Kevin Sullivan is one of my most hated writers in the animation industry. The worst episodes of Danny Phantom's third and final season were written by this hack.
Jazzypants2007 NO wonder I lost interest after a while
To be fair, he only wrote four of the episodes in Season 3: Girl's Night Out, Frightmare, Boxed-Up Fury, and Claw of the Wild, although they were all bad in some way.The other episodes I personally hated from Season 3: Infinite Realms, Torrent of Terror, Livin' Large, Urban Jungle, and Phantom Planet, were either written by Butch Hartman, Mark Drop, or, in one case surprisingly, Sib Ventress (Who wrote my FAVORITE episode, My Brother's Keeper. Torrent of Terror was his episode in question, by the way).
Calling out a specific writer though is something you'll never see mr.enter do again, but I don't blame him. When people are still going on about mistakes made years ago like as if you are still currently making them, it kind of puts the brakes on doing anything similar ever again.
I'm aware, and he's absolutely in the right for choosing not to. I bring up Sullivan, however, because it appears that, 10 years later, he's learned NOTHING.
Jazzypants2007 Heh, don't worry, I'm in no rush to defend Sullivan either. A lot of his writing does come out as lazy, I'm almost disappointed mr.enter can't point out anything like that anymore, even quietly.
I don’t really mind stereotypes that much; it’s the double-standard I have a problem with. It’s how people only find a problem with female characters if there are nothing but a gender stereotype but don’t seem to mind when male characters suffer the same fate.
I hate the word “social expectations". Yes, gender roles exist but they don’t really force both males and females into them. I am a male and dislike football and I don’t feel like I beat some sort of patriarchal power that wants me to like “boy stuff”.
I think in many people's experiences, social expectations are less about forcing someone to like something because their gender and more shaming them for the things they do like because their gender. Like I'm female and never truly felt pressured by the people around me into wearing makeup or trendy clothes but always felt more pressure from people when it came to my interest in video games, D&D and certain shows aimed at boys.
PikaTheProsperous T h a t ‘ s B e c a u s e B o y S t e r e o t y p e s A r e R e a l L i f e
There's a big difference between a dude that doesn't like football and a dude that's gay, wears dresses, does makeup, etc. There ARE social expectations but they are nuanced and there's different levels to it and it can get very complicated, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
In truth, the only social expectations that I have actually really noticed or seen around me are 1: Don't be a dick for no reason. 2: Don't kill things out of barbaric savagery. 3: don't fuck things without consent. 4: Don't steal, leads into rule 1.
There ya go, there's your social expectations right there, and none of 'em gots to do with being manly, unless you define manly as expressing basic self control over one's own actions
Not liking stuff associated with your gender is not on the same level as liking or doing something that's seen as contrary to your gender. I'm sure you'd be met with a lot of cruelty if you liked wearing makeup for example. I hate wearing makeup and don't receive flack for it. But I can imagine the freak out if I shaved my head: people would think I lost it.
Here's my version of The Loud Brothers
Loki Loud - A chill dude who likes to look after his bros.
Loni Loud - A guy with autism who is also a chill dude.
Luke Loud - A successful guitarist who works at the best guitar store in Royal Woods as he gets to play in a band.
Lane Loud - Became the best comedian in Royal Woods.
Lynn Loud Jr. - Still the same as his female counterpart, but more brutal.
Lars Loud - A successful fortune teller at his school.
Leif Loud - A germaphobic clean boy instead of a dirty boy.
Lexx Loud - A Prince who wants to find a girl like in a fairytale.
Levi Loud - Instead of being smart, he would be the family's Leni for comedic reasons.
Leon Loud - The same as his female counterpart, but having either teething issues or ADHD.
When you said that this episode could have had something potential it got me thinking.
Male!Lola could have been genuinely into being a pagent queen and deal with the fact that he's doing something that's "traditionally girly" and possible gender identity issues. Alternatively, (and possibly more simply) they could play up Lola's perfectionism and have Male!Lola be a neatfreak and a control freak.
Male!Lori could have been written specifically as an older, better Male!Lynn (a sports jock, in comparison to Lori's highschool girl) and Male!Lynn could have issues about this (which is a real sibling issue).
And Male!Lisa could be shown to have a Dexter-esque Lab in his room and Lincoln could think this is because he's a boy, only to return to reality and find out that Lisa did in fact have a huge lab hidden in her room, with her dryly commenting that he never asked (and giving the implication that he didn't get to know his sisters enough).
Damn it Mr Enter at this point you're spoiling us.
Considering how much his channel is growing, what did you think was going to happen?
Guns and explosions: I sleep
TheMysteriousMrEnter uploads: REAL SHIT
Yeah, how the hell did they screw this up this badly? Especially since the big thing is that Lincoln’s personality is completely different from the brothers’; how did they not realize that not all boys are the same? In fact, as some people said below, this episode feels horribly rushed into production; both because they don’t have the time to fully develop the plot, and how flat the brothers’ personalities are.
It would've been interesting if all the brothers remained the exact same as their female counterparts, leaving Lincoln to realize that no matter if he has brothers or sisters, it'll always be the same. And it could've worked. There are guys in the real world who would be just like the sisters, but guys. It's not a far off concept of a guy dating another guy, a guy being a pageant star, a guy being into fashion and extremely generous, a guy that is nice, a guy that is goth, into science, likes bugs and frogs, plays sports, plays music, etc..
I really liked one part of this episode. The part when Lincoln Loud burps in Luan Loud's face and she acknowledges how disgusting he is for doing that.
I burped during the creation of this comment. Am I gross?
Did you burp directly in someone else's face?
Yes, I actually have burped in my mother's face before. Even she said it was disgusting.
I was asking Mario and Love Ya Plushmasters.
Cole McCarthy No.
"Some of the characters lives would be exactly the same if they were born boys, like the aforementioned Lynn or Lana."
I don't know. Tomboys are girls with an interest in typically boy things, and I would think the boy version of that is being effeminate. Like the male Lana would be a neat freak and the male Lynn would be a ballerina. This gets more into the how this episode needed to be 22 minutes and more thought out.
I don't think so! Their tomboy-ish behavior isn't really influenced by their gender, but more by their personality itself! That would mean, their male versions would be the only ones that actually behave more stereotypical male, than their female versions
No? That makes no sense whatsoever. Just because your gender is the opposite doesn't mean the rest of your personality is as well, ya doofus. The character, at their core, is gonna have roughly the same interests and personality regardless of their gender. The biggest change is usually in how they express these things, changes in behaviour from social dynamics, and differences in interactions/relationships with other people through the lens of that new perspective.
The thing is that those examples aren't the same character anymore. It's not a genderswapped version of character X, but rather a counterpart for X in the opposite gender. It's a subtle difference, but it's there.
This is trope swapping, not just gender swapping.
Ballet is manly, what are you talking about?!
It’s a shame that a lot of cartoons and shows depict guys as “I’m a douchebag that assaults and harrasses other people because I dunno, I’m a guy.”
Just a shame.
That’s it.
So...
Yeah.
We don't get it good either.
If you're a girl on a cartoon/show (with exceptions) you get to be:
1. The Perfect Model Girl
2. Lé Screeching Nag.
3. The Myth, the Legend, The White Girl Arm Candy (if you're a minority).
I like the loud house because it not only follows the only boy among many girls, but that boy happens to be the middle child. It's a point of view we don't get to see often. TV shows, especially shows for kids, usually follow the oldest or youngest child.
Who wants a video at 3 in the morning?
Mr enter: OH BOY 3 AM! *Posts AA*
Basically.
He did the same thing before... I mean, I didn't want to sleep anyways 😂
Why isn't this comment pinned XD
Theres this thin called a timeline
Labradorite Semicolons
Care to explain Mr. no capitalization or punctuation?
TBH, this episode handles like a nightmare quite well. Nightmares often feel very real and happen so fast and you just kind of take it in. Weird, but true.
it does, but it does so that at the cost of being a good episode.
JSD
I once had a dream which i just simply pet a dog. Met a youtuber i hated. And got executed for telling the youtuber to fuck off
you know what the episode should have been lincoln wakes up in a world where he has 10 brothers after wishing that, but he finds out his siblings act the exact same as them as boys
Imagine if like, they did the reality swap and then lincoln found that literally nothing is different except for the biological gender. not sure how the story would finish but yea lol
It could have taught a really good moral on equality, I wish it did.
Dear God Mr. Enter
Its 2:09 Am here
Amolina44 4:22 AM here.
edit: Eastern time.
4:31
4:00 am here. 👌
1:47 am
10:48 AM here.
This can't be sexist
Since they're insulting guys
Uh...
Don't worry, I'm saying it ironically
Don't worry, I figured you were being satirical.
Still, expect to eventually get a bunch of angry comments from people who can't read. :^)
OnEiNsAnEmOtHeRfUcKa Either the misandrists or idiots, which will come first
*insert angry comment here*
AKA that time Lincoln was brothers with the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles XD
(though that's the only good thing I can say about it)
They should bring back the Loud Bros if they ever give "Linka" her own episode ;)
I'll admit I do enjoy the concept of gender bending despite the way this episode was done.
3:11 It's like that "Luigi wins by doing absolutely nothing" meme
I propose the "Clyde wins by doing absolutely nothing" meme
BrickNinja99 Formerly LegoLover58 I blame Weegee for that meme
BrickNinja99 Formerly LegoLover58 Thing is,Clyde works like Weegee lol
I'll be honest.. I kinda thought the one episode where Lincoln thought he was causing bad luck for everyone was the worst out of all. Like how quick they believed that he was bad luck even though he was, and that in actually it turns out that, "y'know what? He IS bad luck after all." So the episode shows how much the family doesn't want him around to the point of him sleeping outside his own home.. ....I get that he lies about how much bad luck he causes early on, but it's when they say.. "Oh things have been better without you around." ........I died a little inside, drove himself out of the house to live in the backyard. Then the episode just ends with a weak twist that he can only be good luck if he's in some baseball mascot costume. All I can say is... That's not funny.
Shahrooz Smith you know?you are the only one that hates the episode without acting as if it ruins the entire show or hating all the characters for one episode,I mean,as much as I hate the episode I feel like people don't want to let it go,and its been almost a year!and wants it to be banned,what would be the accomplishments of banning it anyways?people looks at the episode as if the show is defined by this one episode and as if they wanted to show something deep about abuse,but it was just done for comedy,terribe comedy,simply thats it
Well yeah, every series has like one bad episode that nobody enjoys, like the Lars episodes from Steven Universe, or that one episode from Last Airbender where they have to go through a canyon with two different tribes that hate each other. It's like hitting the reset button after each episode (Unless it's a continuous story-arc.)
This episode seems to send the wrong message about having brothers. Being the oldest of 4 (3 boys and a girl), i respect my younger siblings and help out if they need me. Not all boys are gross, edgy and assholic. Its just depends on how they were brought up.
The only thing I liked about this episode is that the male versions of Lori, Leni, Luna, and Luan are voiced by the 2012 Ninja Turtles (which is still my favorite incarnation of the franchise)
Lori (male version): Seth Green (Leonardo)
Leni (male version): Sean Astin (Raphael)
Luna (male version): Greg Cipes (Michaelangelo)
Luan (male version): Rob Paulsen (Donatello)
Do an animated atrocity on another good show. Sym-Bioic Titan had 1 bad episode, Shadows of Youth. The bullying in that is 10X worse than in this episode.
I hope that some day we will get a show that does gender swap correctly, i don't see how it can be that hard honestly, someone's gender doesn't define their personality past an extent. Lola is the center of attention and loves everything feminine so why shouldn't her male counterpart be the same? I can't see her conforming to social standards to fit in, for example. I like the approach you took on this, you're very good at covering gender swap episodes (the futurama one too), I think you'd be able to write a very good gender swap episode because you seem to understand how they work
We already have a show that does gender-swap correctly, it's called "Adventure Time".
These are the kinds of Animated Atrocities videos that I like to see. When Enter is this calm and rational and not bitter, spiteful and/or biased; I feel like that's when he's at his best. It doesn't feel like someone ranting on the internet with nasty, destructive criticism just because he's butthurt over nothing; it feels like genuine, constructive criticism about an issue that can be addressed without losing our shit and come up with a solution.
Sure, it makes the title more of a hyperbole/exaggeration than a legitimate atrocity against animation; but it also helps me take his commentary seriously. Because I'm not watching these just to reaffirm or change my thoughts just because some guy is yelling at me with conviction in his words; I watch these because, wether we agree or disagree, I want to know what the person behind the screen has to say... and be proven that their perspective has a solid reasoning.
It might be just me, but I think that Enter is improving.
Diego Degollada Agreed. I came back to his atrocities after forever and was pleasantly surprised.
It's possible to make genuine criticisms about something while also being so angered by it that you can't hold it back.
I think he's better with duds than just bad shows, especially when there is only one or a few duds, since you want to respect the show, but still point out it's flaws.
I agree, this episode was not very good; especially the ending
i never watched the show but i can imagine the ending is the best part because at least non of that bullshit is real
True...but having the entire show be nothing but a dream, as Family Guy once put it, is like a HUUGE middle finger to the viewers
Oh god don't remind me of the ending... eww
I watched the episode
It's in my top 10 worst cartoon episodes
An episode with a weakness of stereotypes...like fairly odd parents.
Did you see the Love Struck atrocity video? July 5, 2018, 5:04pm
You know, I think a top 10 bad episodes from cartoons you like would be an interesting list to make
Seth Howell He should do the opposite too. PhantomStrider did both is you're interested
I kind of liked how 4 of the brothers were the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
cam312 lol, what?
tyrantking9000 oh, if you aren’t aware, the 4 older brothers are voiced by the 2012 tmnt voice actors.
This is a bad episode of a good cartoon. That sentence aged like a rotten apple...
I finally gain the will to sleep and suddenly my phone rings and I see a new upload by enter , agasint my better judgment I must watch because it is my duty .
cgmaster2 Notifications are the worst, sometimes.
cgmaster2 I try ignore them but it's hard to
I salute you, good sir!
What MrEnter says about stereotypes I think can apply to many of the SJW Marvel comics and TV token characters.
Fat lesbian black transwoman with feminine penis agrees
i was thinking the same thing to bad he doesn't review comics I would love to hear him roast Marvel comics
Frank Gandara A youtuber that does a good job is I Love Comics if you're interested.
I hate that every time a black person shows up its the fault of SJWs than just its a black character. If Riri was a white man would that be better? When would it be okay to have a comic set in the future with a skin tone/ gender successor?
I think anti-SJW only look at skin tone instead of character because I like Riri's character.
+Hunter Harris yeah I watch his videos as well as diversity & comics but thanks though
Mr Enter 2017: I will do an admirable animations on A Tattlers Tale.
Mr Enter 2021: Ends admirable animations before that happens.
So that was a lie?
I love that fact that Mr Enter on a break is still far more productive than a lot of over youtubers full time. Keep up the good work sir!
Your reviews have certainly gotten better from your older reviews of shows that aren't just a lot of screaming.
Keep it up, Mr Enter!
I liked the older reviews though, the fuck?
I actually enjoy his rage. Sometimes raging is the most pleasant thing you'll need at the moment.
Skeleton The BlackTopHat he's super long-winded though
Skeleton The BlackTopHat I liked those though
I love how you don't just sit there bashing bad episodes. You actually tell us what's bad about it, instead of just saying it sucks and couldn't be done better.
Someone should rewrite this episode and make each experience for lincoln the exact same, since the characters should still have the same personality, reguardless of their gender
Finally someone talks about this shitty episode
On this episodes defense, this was Lincoln's depiction of how his life would be if he had brothers. He never knew what brothers acted like. His imagination made them act like Lynn because she acts more boy-ish then most characters, besides Lana. So if they do exist in their own universe I argue they would have similar personalities to the sisters.
Just a thought.
Noooooo this is one of the only good nickeloden shows left
“One of” more like the only
Mr enter then: I don't really mind no such luck
Mr enter now: I WON'T TOUCH THIS WITH A TEN FOOT POLE!!!!!!
@6:40 "Lincoln isn't the 'I'm a boy' stereotype. Yeah he likes video games and comics but... He just hasn't been written like that." *Doesn't elaborate on point further*
I'm not saying he's wrong in saying that, he just didn't make a point. He said something and just kinda bailed and never gave evidence of Lincoln just being 'boy' in a group.
Why does Luna's boy version sound familiar
i think it's beast Boy/Michelangelo's vocie actor
All four of the older brothers are voiced by the Ninja Turtles.
I think genderswaps are literally the laziest AU/plot you can use.
Magic Ma'am in my opinion that’s actually a really interesting plot.
It can be an interesting look into the characters.
undertale AU's are better! [no offense, also, nice name and profile pic :) ]
IT SUCKS WHEN SOMEONE RIPS ONE IN THE CAR!
Wow. You hit the nail on the head with the main problem of this episode.
I am SO glad someone pointed out the problem with these stereotypes. I’m a woman but I get really irritated seeing men and boys stereotyped in this way.
Even if you don’t care about gender stereotypes, these kind of portrayals are just lazy and dated at the very LEAST.
Why does this episode have this problem? They have managed to avoid it in the pilot, what caused this?
Ur back! Everything cool bro?
Tristan Bigornia He must be since amount of uploads are slightly higher than usual.
I guess that vent video gave him the boost he needed to make more videosm
What was that for?
booooooo you stink. Ahhh... My leg...
His videos are actually further between than this most of the time.