Sebastian Bach "Red-Faced & Teary-Eyed," Why He Was FIRED From Pre-Skid Row Band Madam X w/ Godzilla
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- This is a full in bloom interview with Madam X's Chris "Godzilla" Doliber. The bassist talks about Sebastian Bach's time fronting the band, the truth about why he got fired, how Madam X led directly to Skid Row, Mark McConnell, Maxine and Roxy Petrucci, Bret Kaiser, Bon Jovi, Zakk Wylde, Kevin Dubrow and more.
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Sebastian Bach in Madam X Interview - 1987
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SEBASTIAN BACH invites GODZILLA (Madam X) on stage (Youth Gone Wild)
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SEBASTIAN BACH thanks Chris Doliber (Madam X)
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MADAM X - Sebastian Bach comes to say hi, Monsters Of Rock Cruise 2016 (Atrium stage)
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Madam X - High In High School w/ Sebastian Bach
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Madam X - "Good With Figures" (Live Performance) w/ Sebastian Bach
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Intro & Outro by FOOL OF FATE
#sebastianbach #skidrow #bonjovi - Hudba
I saw Madam X with Sebastian in a small club. It was either late-86 or early-87. I brought just a point and shoot camera, but wound up with some good photos. The band invited me backstage, offered me stuff off the deli tray, and we’re all-around nice people. Sebastian even had me take band photos with his disk camera.
It was the early days of drag queen story time 😊
@@Chadsolderbrotherbrad1111 lol.
The Petrucci sisters are, FAR, underappreciated in the history of: music, the '80s, metal.
EXCELLENT players & writers!
I agree!!!
Indeed they are! Vixen Rocks
This was choc full of cool info I never knew. Respect to Sébastien. He was obnoxious, sometime shameless, extroverted, and a crazy wild man!
Dude pulled it off!
He became that metal icon that was bigger than life for a time. Voice, Image, band, fame and fortune!
Now... boy is he pathetic
Part of the magic of this channel is seeming to always have the perfect dance partner. Great interview and subject!
MADAM X - great release.
Even the concert footage “ High in High School “. Great glimpse !
God. We were kids. The further down the road I go, I see more of my past.
It was the trip of a lifetime brother
Yeah. That’s because boomers have turned the internet into cable tv with more censorship. Just by their sheer participation. It’s their final gift to us. More control and mediocre unnecessary regulation it’s what they do best.
You can take getting fired as an opportunity or a failure.
This dude is extremely smart. It had to he hard, especially in those days, to not be partying constantly. He even said 'its the music business, not the music party. Great comment. Bach is a raging immature ass hat even now...could you imagine at 18? They needed a 55 gal drum of Ritalin for the guy.
I honestly think it goes beyond being an ass hat and into some kind of clinical psychosis. Psycho's often make great music just put him back in the box when they're finished performing.
@@ponzo1967exactly. Dudes weird and cringe asf. Insufferable
He's a frontman, all the best ones are raging egos on legs, DLR, Axel Rose etc.
“All the best ones”. Haha. Okay. Joey Ramone, lemmy kilmister would wreck dlr and axel any day of the week. Shame they ain’t around to bury those dooshers
@@googleedwardbernays6455 I partly agree, although Lemmy did go on a 2 day bender before their biggest ever headline gig and passed out mid set, much to the intense annoyance of Fast Eddie and Phil Taylor, who believed that ruined their chance at stepping up to the big league.
I like Baz immensely but he's a grown man child.
Seb has a great voice. Saw him in 'JC Superstar' on tour 20 years ago.
There used to be videos of Skid Row's original singer performing songs off the debut album. All of the melodies and lyrics were exactly the same as what Bach recorded. Of course Bach added higher notes and vocal divebombing but that's it. It was clear he had no part of Skid Row's songwriting and musical arrangements and just sang the script that was handed to him.
There are still a few videos of Matt Fallon singing. Def a different voice and range. Matt also sang for early Anthrax.
1st record was almost 95% written when he came into the band.
I heard them, and the melodies are not the same. Bach really added to those songs.
He is a toxic person, but you have to give him credit for his contributions.
And what about Slave? That album blows their first out of the water and that's him all over it.
If SR had any other singer instead of Sebastian, I'm convinced they wouldn't have had the success they did no matter who they got, kinda like they are now without him. Yeah the songs were good, but it's the way Sebastian delivered them that made them great.
Cool interview....Full In Bloom
The Real Deal.....Keep going man !!! 😎😁🤘
Madam X was a popular act in the Detroit area. While folks think Bach is a better singer I have to disagree. The bands best works were with the bands original singer Kaiser imo. Seem's Bach started off Immature and has kept the immaturity train rolling to this day. I was fortunate too catch both Madam X and Seduce in their hey day's in 1984 and 85 both were highly legit bands that should had gotten bigger but didnt.
I saw Madam X a few times in the 80's at a place called The Weigh (Way?) Station in Oxford Michigan. The only reason we went to that bar was they had "Drink and Drown" night on Wednesdays and you paid 5 or 10 bucks to get in and drank as much as you could between 8pm and midnight. That being said, when I saw Madam X they had a guy playing drums (not the Vixon chick) and the girl guitar player was okay from a playing standpoint but she was kind of rough to look at. She ran around flicking her tongue like she was Gene Simmons. Although the band was pretty tight musically they were total posers (Poison with a girl guitar player) with extremely generic sounding originals. They all had poofy hair, and obviously they were more concerned with image than they were with writing or playing good music.
EXACTLY!!! I always got that impression of Madam X. Even after Roxy started playing drums with them it just seemed like a gimmick group.
It makes sense why he lost patience, but damn he killed his golden goose. It looks like he never really went anywhere.
Sebastian is his own worst enemy. After hearing about the message he left on Snakes phone during holiday dinner with his family its no wonder he got booted. If he'll froze over I don't think the og Skid Row lineup will ever reform
I loved metal so much back then I knew this band. One of the many great bands that you won’t find records for anymore.
I was fired from bands and replaced and not once did I take it personally.
Great interview..
Great Rock History.. ✌️
Biggest mistake this guy ever made was getting rid of Sebastian. No one knows who his band is except for a few die-hard fans.
That's what critics said about Pete Best!
I grew up in Michigan near Detroit and have never heard of them. There were better bands in The D at the time.
Sebastian alone wouldn't have saved them. Skid Row had two strong hits out the gate, written by Bolan/Sabo, as most of their songs are. Sebastian did have the perfect voice for it, but those songs could've worked with other vocalists. And to this day, they've never wanted him back. Some people make things unendurable, regardless how good they are at what they do.
Madame X were sub par as writers.
@@joepensanti9468I'd never even heard of them until this video.
I’m from Gainesville, Florida, which was Mark McConnell’s hometown in the early ‘80s. He was pretty well-known around town, both as a performer and a drumming teacher - my kid brother took lessons for him for awhile.
He’s still well-remembered by folks who were around here and crossed paths with him, he was a pleasant, humble guy by all accounts. (I think I said hello or was introduced to him one or twice.) Darn shame that he passed away so young.
what a killer interview!
RIP MARK BAM BAM MCONNELL
Madam X was outstanding. That album, i think its self titled?? Choc full of bangers
Madam X, never heard of her.
Hilarious 🫤
Sounds like some cookie cutter tan ten ten band
I would love to have Bas and Maxine in a room together listening to this. Probably alot of "that's not how i remember it" but I'd like to think neither would flat out deny any of it.
MX was a good band,Kaiser could sing his ass off.Sebastian Although a great singer and frontman Bach is pretty much a disease to a lot of people.Think about it,a lot of money has been offered for skid row to reunite with Bach and they are like nope we would rather be happy....That speaks volumes
I cant believe i totally forgot Roxy was in Madam X before Vixen. 🤘🤘
Yeah that's the way it goes
Great stuff! Godzilla is badass!
I always liked the Madam X album they should have been much bigger
Thank u
I went to a concert last week at Pine Knob. They recently changed the name back from Dte to Pine Knob. I know it isn’t a big deal unless you lived in Michigan before the name was initially DTE. I don’t think anyone in Michigan ever called it that. 😂
I saw Madame X at Cardi’s in Houston, Texas
Old madam x is great stuff.
14:05 looks like an old pantera pic :P
😂
23:24 Slappin' da bass.
I have no dohbt that Sebastian is hard to deal with. But this guy sounds like he's one of those guys who will just get rid of members right and left to the point of counterproduction. But chemistry is everything and now where is he? Whats his net worth how well is his music known etc. Sebastian got the last laugh.
But he hasn't had any bangers in 30 years.
Wouldn't OG skid row get the same royalties?
Madam X great band and Chris Doliber is the People's Champ 🏆
Well, he did the right thing at that moment. Sebastian wasn’t doing what needed to be done to make it.
Miss the hairdos and Stiff Stuff hairspray ❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Not me. That part was super lame. Leave the silliness of appearance trends to the nontalent pop music
Sebastian ended up playing with Bam bam McConnell in later years post skid row - there was a live dvd or cd out I’m sure.
If you find a guy that is a really good front man you just need to put up with a little silliness
Hes got that late 80s early 90s ego
"It's A Critical Addiction"....
This is awesome. FIB RULES
Ha! I grew up in Port Huron, MI. Too funny
Don't ever forget about band chemistry. Yeah you can replace that guy but suddenly special becomes ordinary and you can't get it back.
Too bad Sebastian hasn’t really grown up and that’s sort of overshadowing his talent.
Fuck yeah 🤘
🤘
Bam Bam!!!
Sebastian should be thankful they let him go be otherwise he never would've been in Skid row.
Who?
Difficult to follow this guy's story....
Why?
He's trying way too hard to justify his terrible "business" decision... back in the day, now he's only relevant because Bas was briefly I abandoned with him.
@@thedude4672 All this stuff that supposedly happened backstage in Baltimore or wherever... it was a confusing, stream-of-consciousness diatribe.
@@user-ev4td1dq5g Think you're being necessarily harsh. Madam X wouldn't have gone anywhere even had they kept Sebastian. Their music is mediocre at best. The only band that made it that had that kind of look was Poison. Even then, they watered it down as they became more successful. Skid Row fired Sebastian for the same reasons, and worse things. LOL
I think the sound is harsh. And the video is too long. JMO
Maybe the reason the band is relatively unknown is because of the choices you made getting rid of someone for a reason like that you shows why never made it big
What’s “make it big” even mean 🥴
I remember madam x adverts. And thats it. Sounds like la bida loca!!!
Pine Knob is Pine Knob once again
Never knew about Bas past before Skid Row, this is so cool, (except the spitting, that sh** is gross)
That may be the biggest hair I've ever seen on a man.
I grew up in the 80s, so that's saying something!
Who
I actually prefer Madam X to Skid Row.
Seeing my 1st rock show, Alice Cooper in '81 at 10 yro, am proud to say if look up my yearbook photos, one of which picture day was day after Crue Theater tour, in which all of us metalheads who went are wearing the t-shirt, i never got into stupid trend of poofing up hair & looking like a girl. Might as well call me grunge.😅 Hair all one length wearing a t-shirt. Maybe blue jean jacket in a couple, as where most all my metal buddies had mullets, wore parachute pants, & even break-danced as "metalheads".😅 Nothing wrong with that if was your thang. Cheers to the Good Time Memories!
🤘😎
But once prototype for abomination to come, Sam Halen, hit at stroke of midnight '84 with toy piano "Jump" bs & turned bands like Crue & Priest pink & purple i was on to Kreator, Destruction, Voi-Vod, Celtic Frost, Slayer, etc. Also made Metallica & Nirvana look like baby shit to me when went Pop & became new fad that came along & put "Metal" & hair bands out of their misery. So, yeah, Sabastian Bach was always a clown to me. Even before i ever heard a word come out of his gd mouth.
What happened in the '80's...
SMGDMFH!😅
Rock On!
🤘🌎❤️
That guy wrote and sang I remember you.
12:40 This 🤡actually tries to defend spitting on someone and even tries to say he did it for his own good...
15:54 then he was going to sue because someone said something hurty about him?
Canadians are awesome people. Most of them are tough and honest to a fault. He was immature and has/had some issues --- that's normal when you become a rock star and you look like the child of robert plant and david lee roth ....... and the voice ---- he should have taken care of himself better but it's not surprising ---- i'm here for the music --- in that moment he/they were great --- they cut through the din --- it's all just history now
Can someone please tell me who this interviewer is? His voice is amazing and he seems to know a ton about the business. Who is it?
This is mister full in bloom ..the absolute very best interviewer on the internet.. trust me. .subscribe to him you won't be disappointed
@@mostlycrazyallthetime ok, but what is his real name? What's his story?
From what I heard back in the eighties is that Madame X invested a lot of money onto Sebastian with vocal training dance lesson so he could get some moves on stage. As soon as he developed and got comfortable with the stage he bailed on them. That's what I were told?
You were apparently told wrong, since the guy in this video is pretty much the leader of Madame X and said that he fired him.
I were there at the time in L.A. besides there were so many better bands than Madame X at that time in L.A I believe Bas make his move and left. Shout out to the Throbs!
Boy people try to paint their picture. In totality, you let this dude pass, you lost with your choice. Live with it you were wrong.
They still may have not gone anywhere with him. Skid Row wrote great songs and are all talented before Bach.
This is an interview with a never was, Sebastian moved on to the right band and left the garbage behind. Madam X?? way down the list of any memorable band. Sorry, I tell it like it is.
And you are who ? Exactly! A nobody !!!!
Don't be sorry, you nailed it
He’s so amazing skid row won’t have a thing to do with him now, but there was that one time 🙄
@@michaelwills1926 They made their money with Bach but if they had no money left, we would see how serious they are
I remember Sebastian Bach being on a reality show with Ted Nugent & 3 other rocker's making a band. He's wasn't a very likeable guy. Maybe he's changed & grown up a little as we all should. But yeah, he was kind of a dick.
Lemme guess. He was being a drunk obnoxious asshole all the time. What did I win?
Bach lately from shows I have seen online very recently is worse than Vince Neil on his worse night. I hope he gets his shit together as well as Vince.
His new album says different, the album sounds like he hadn't lost anything
@@timmiller745yeah, new album sounds great. But you can do 27,300 takes in the studio and stitch together a great verse or chorus easily.
Honestly I've seen shows where he's a bit blown up, but nowhere near "Keeestah Mah Ha." Nothing THAT bad.
America should thank me that I pushed him to the limit, he says.
Who is that clown?
The guy who Sebastian learned from and who fired him, which led to Bach's Skid Row tenure.
So yeah, Skid Row fans should thank him
@@thedude4672 Wow, I hope you thank your boss when he fires you
Exactly-he's is a clown and his memory of everything is quite amusing if you were there.
@@thedude4672 maybe, but that's not something you proclaim or demand, it reeks of sour grapes or ego, either one nobody respects, just makes you look petty and undermines your position
He taught him everything by spitting snot he hocked up in his face when he was 18. A true scholar of Buddha.
And this guy is still playing in the same band for 40 years now and they still havent gone anywhere and never will
Exactly. So for this guy, he made Bach great and we should thank him but he wasn't able to make himself great LOL
This conversation take me back to middle school
the best thing that could have happand to him is to get out of skid row they are nothing with out him, he is still a big star and skid row gose threw singers like tommy lee gose threw women. they are a small bar,small club band or state fair in omaha band. they well never be what they were in the early 90s and there is no star power in that band.
No offense i think it was a blessing they fired him and he moved on. I mean while talented i don't really like any of madam x music
Looks like a girl band.
And, NO ONE knows this clown...
If you grew up during that time and involved in anything. You would know him and who madam x were .
@@buffdaddy2032 If you were his neighbor, you would know who he is....
He’s a beta
You guys look ridiculous.
I cant stand Sebastian, or Skid Row
he is such a victim of the covid narrativ - It must be really stupid to open your mouth like that and then in the end everything turns out to be a lie. Just as those he insulted said from the beginning.
Da fuck. I guess all those people dying miserably while gasping for air in the ICU (including a friend of mine) were "a lie"....
Open his mouth... well, unless he's got the ol' ball gag in it... 🤣
@@MrMatthiasSchneideryes it was. Your "friend" had other medical issues that any illness like that would've affected
stupidest thing this band did was get rid of Sebastian Bach. Don't care what they say.
This guy made Bach great but couldn't make himself great. He should have kept his tactics for himself LOL
Reliving your "almost" glory-days... pathetic 😏
Those pics are like the quasi trans movement of the 80s!!!😮😅😂😂😂
Who cares....
Millions of middle aged women.
@@negativeindustrial Probably some young women too
Have you seen Sebastian's current wife?
@@thedude4672
Probably, but, no. I haven’t.
@@negativeindustrial Bach has a big gut!
@@negativeindustrial Ummm no! I'm 54 and Bach is definitely not hot anymore, hasn't been for awhile now. He looks like a 65-70 year old Grandma now. Sorry, but no thanks. Jmo
Bach is and has always been a tool
And a Tool with a golden ✨️ voice!❤😅
You didn't need a passport to cross back and forth between the US and Canada back then.
Nope. That changed after 911. We used to do to the States all the time. At the border, they'd asked a few questions and you were allowed to enter and vice versa.
@@shaneyoung3407
I lived in St. Clair Shores and Mt. Clemens as a kid. I can't begin to count how many times I've been over the bridge. When passports became mandatory to travel back and forth it absolutely shocked me to the core. It still does.
True. On the Maine/NB border it was: Where you folks headed today? (Brought) anything back with you? Have a nice day.
Same in NNY where I grew up, went to Kingston alot, only needed a driver's license.
Having said that going into Canada was never a problem, coming back you could get in but the US border patrol was more likely to grill you and search you if you looked ir acted suspicious. Mainly they were trying to catch you sneaking hash/weed or Canadian beer back in.
He said they asked Sebastian for his ID and not a passport.
Being close to that scene a lot of his stories are off timeline and his self importance of launching Seb were revisionist history.
im in the video i gave baz a hug
He didn't get fired, he quit the band to go into skid row
Quit drinking Sebastian and things would work out.