Building a Roof Over Two Shipping Containers - SketchUp - Active Military Use - Read Description
Vložit
- čas přidán 28. 08. 2024
- UPDATE This design was for an active military use where they only had 2" x 6" x 16' available. I designed the low pitch roof so the 16 foot 2" x 6"''s would work. This was not for a habitable living space. It was to store materials and have a space to work on vehicles. Please understand that you should never take a design from another project and use it for your own. Always, design or have your project designed for your specific site. Not doing this shows in experience and lack of knowledge. If you want a similar design for your project, contact me at atdrafting.com for a designed customized for your site.
Original description;
This is another project for Chief Don (active duty). They have a project where they take two shipping containers and build a roof over them to create an area to do maintenance n a vehicle while adding additional weatherization for the containers. Since they normally build trusses, which are labor intense, I thought I would show an easier way to get this done. The old fashion way :) These guys rock and continue to provide security for our country. I am grateful for them!
Places you can find me!
www.atdrafting...
Instagram: / artisantony
Patreon: / artisantony
/ artisantonyspage
/ artisantony
The music "The Artisan Way" was written and performed for my channel by my son, Barret. His channel is here / insanedrummer89 Barret writes most of the music for our channel. Thanks son!
This design was for an active military use where they only had 2" x 6" x 16' available. I designed the low pitch roof so the 16 foot 2" x 6"''s would work. This was not for a habitable living space. It was to store materials and have a space to work on vehicles. Please understand that you should never take a design from another project and use it for your own. Always, design or have your project designed for your specific site. Not doing this shows in experience and lack of knowledge. If you want a similar design for your project, contact me at atdrafting.com for a designed customized for your site.
would this work with 2x4 , ??
@@billbryan9258 only if you bought engineered trusses using 2x4 cords.
Are you sharing your SKP file?
@@billbryan9258 I would recommend that due to the low pitched roof. These spans ar a bit much for a 2" x 4" rafter which does not show up on the span tables www.southernpine.com/app/uploads/SPtable17_060113.pdf 2" x 4" are used on trusses but trusses are engineered with webs and cords positioned at certain place to handle loads.
40 by 40 in between the containers would be something id want in PA snow in winters so i thing id need more of a roof pitch can we achieve this?
This is the best roof span guide I've ever come across on CZcams. We have a customer who is buying a pair of 20' high cubes to build this project who sent me here to check it out.I tip my hat to you Tony. This is an excellent design.
Thanks much! :) It was for Chief Don at an active base so we only had 2" x 6" x 16' rafters but you can make the pitch a little steeper with 18' long rafters.
I'm a Home Theater nut. I've been toying with the same idea , but a much higher ceiling. Well done. cheers.
These spaces can be very versatile :) Thanks
I watched a gentleman build one of these structures, but because he did not extend the trusses all the way to the outside edge of the containers, his structures was a higher pitched roof, and the ends of the trusses were attached to the INSIDE edge of the containers, still pretty cool.
Probably not a good idea since the roof of the shipping container s not designed to take a roof load.
Perfect idea then you can have a patio, 😁👍. I'd have the 1, 2 bedrooms, the other, living, dining room, + kitchen
A covered patio sounds nice :)
This is a very cool and well thought design. The constant motion however in explaining it damn near had me sea sick.
Yep one more spin and I puke!
The beauty of trusses is you can work alone, even with a high pitched roof. So worth the extra cost of pre-fab trusses.
True, it might not be smart sometimes :) but true. I have seen trusses get away from people before though :)
Fist bumps 👊👊👊👊👊, high fives/pats on the back ✋✋✋✋✋, extra thumbs up 👍👍👍👍👍 Pets ❤❤❤❤❤, treats and tummy rubs.
this is a dope video. I like how he walks you through it.
Thanks :)
Very well done. As a builder you nailed it 😀
We had this exact set-up at a mine I worked at. It is a great way to create space and have an open shop.
I might add 2-3 ft overhang off of the front by extending the 4x4's to give rain protection for the door openings.
That is a good option. And you can always weld a bracket to support the 4x4 if you wanted a decent overhang
Excellent and so pleased to have come across this priceless video
Thanks :)
i ts agreat job ,simple things to make homes and warehouses out of, and you gave me a nice ,inexpensive idea to build an auto engine repair worshop you re creative ....... i wish you success, thank you
Thank you SO much for this video! You very clearly and succinctly explained EXACTLY what I'm looking to build for my farm. I'll be reaching out through your website shortly about purchasing plans. Thanks again! You do amazing work!
Thanks! I sent you a reply :)
Mis respetos para ud Sr. Si un día hago algo así, copiaremos este modelo y le daremos una donación.🙏🙏🙏🙏😊👍
gracias :)
Very well done! With your fundamental instructions, this is a project I might very well undertake. Thanks!!
Man I wish I had your CAD skills. I need to sit down and learn it one day
I do tutoring if you are ever interested :)
Which CAD program do I need so you can tutor me?@@ArtisanTony
@@lawrenceinks4810 I use SketchUp
So for those people questioning this; (like silly canadians) this was designed specifically for a customer of mine who I mentioned several times during the video so if you have a project it will have to be designed for your own particular site. You should never take a design from the internet and rubber stamp it for your own project. I assume my viewers are smarter than that :)
I agree with you totally … except the part about "silly canadians" :-)
@@PennyZ1000 haha, jk
What design software were you using?
@@DragonSlayer-rd4mn It's in the title - Sketchup.
Spacekriek - ahhh. “Smacks forehead”... Thanks.
This was awesome! Thanks for breaking everything down barney style.
thanks, i guess lol
in snow load areas , adding a 8/12 pitch or what ever works in your area and beefing up your perlins would work ,but i get the basic structure involved.. thanks for the great vid. !
You can design any pitch to work with different loading. I can make a flat roof work with snow loads but I get your point. But just so people know, live and dead loads are one thing and the way you design the shape of the roof is another thing. You just can't change the pitch and make it work. You have to specify the design load then design the framing to match the loading and so the pitch is not necessarily related to the design loads. Thanks!
if extend the bottom higher up. You'll have better air flow and a higher roof. plus it will look more professional with 2 sets of steps. in case of flood you be cover and you can store things under the containers. Plus the dog won't mind.
Make the most of the space with options.
I like that idea
Thanks, it worked well for them.
This is the basic idea I used for my first welding shop with a 12 foot overhang over the doors.
I'd like to see what that looks like, with emphasis on the overhang. That was something missing from this design that I would add myself.
@@_onesimpleidea come off of the doors joined at the roof section extend to length desired put 6x6 post each corner for support.
Add walls
very good and help ful
I sure as heck love it.
Love it! Thanx for sharing 👍🏻
Thanks!
This looks great
Thanks!
Thanks for another great video Tony! I really like your construction videos and how you explain the details of construction and nice also when you walk us through the techniques and features of SketchUp, on the many other videos you have made.
Thank you!
Thanks alot
Thank you!
What software are you using?
your Creativity is amazing, i think it could be used for garage or warehouse, long distance pipeline construction site or special engineering like Trump border wall
good point :) Thanks!
Love it
Thanks!
Ese es uno de mis projector en un futuro.
I’d like to do something similar but with the two containers right next to each other and rotated so they are both in the back of what would be a garage/carport . The gabled 8/12 roof would be perpendicular to the containers providing a car port 20ft wide in from of the 20ft side of the containers. Would this all work the same, but turning the roof the other way?
Great info I don’t know a lot about What I’m gonna get myself into but I just subscribed
This is awesome thank you
Awesome video!
This is good. I want to build a pergola but zoning requirements are a pain. Some structures are allowed but only a certain size. I think I can use this style. I was thinking along the same lines as this. It has giving me a better idea on not having to use supports. There's load restrictions on lengths but I see a loop hole. I don't mind getting a permit but I don't want to pay for drawings. It's just a stupid shade.
some of us make a living by drawing so I am glad some people do not mind paying for them :) with me, you get consulting also on how to build it. I am not just a draftsman.
What about garaging of taller vehicles, like a tall camper? Make at least 6 or 8/12 and cut it off at the inside. Then bolt/add the top of rafters to continue the expanse to roof tip, after first one, copy and pre build so that the lower joists are not needed. I mean, build a vaulted roof for taller equipment.
Dog, this is awesome. Are the trusses 2x4?
They were 2x6x16 because that is all they had at the military base.
Awesome thanks
This week I just put half the roof on a single 40' container. I used 16' 2x8s coming from the center of the roof out 12' (using 4' for above the container). This creates a 11' overhang (1' eve) on both sides of the container. I used about 1' drop in 10' for slope. The one thing that stuck out to me on your design was the 4x4 bolted to the roof. My container did not have 3.5" before the ribbed roof got in the way. I welded 3" angle iron sticking up 6" to bolt the rafters to. I needed to grind 60% of the to allow for the upward dents in the roof. Did you need to adjust for that? Thanks, great video.
You really need to increase the audio volume
Even having mine cranked full i can barely hear you
Have a question, I'm thinking 4 containers connected in a square with open Court yard in middle. Then add 2 container on top of them. So then I put roof over top of that. And have second level and my court yard or living room could have a 12 ft Christmas tree. With a Barnadium style roof. Does that make sense. I haven't seen anyone do it that way. They stack them all differently. But not with a court yard living room and built second level with Bedrooms
I've seen a lot of designs that are not helpful either because of the design itself or the way it's poorly explained. In this case, you've done a nice job with both. Thanks.
My only question at this point is whether you think that roof is sufficiently anchored to the containers to keep it from flipping over during high winds, hurricane, etc?
Could this design be done with 2x8x24 , in order to have more spacing between containers under roof.
Yes, we used 2x6x16 because that is all chief Don at this base. Probably a couple more feet in width maybe a little more.
This is so awesome and simple and can evolve into so much more even after it has already been built! Are you able to share files on this at all??
This version was for an active military use where they only had 16 foot 2"x 6"'s on hand. I modify each of the designs for each project based on occupancy type. There is a small fee for that and you can see other work I do at atdrafting.com. Thanks!
hi
thanks for that viedeo
have you got something for a flat roof with 10 meter distance from container to container , wit one post in the middle?
No but i can do one for a small fee. You can contact me at atdrafting.com
I don't see why you would need the outer ceiling joists at all. Surely you would only need the centre ones and the rafters could still attach to the 4 x 4 or whatever it is bolted to the container outer?
I designed this for the US military active duty use and they liked and approved it. It was good for them. You can build your own however you like.
if it's for vehicle maintenance, than having a front and back wall should be mandatory, that way they can shield themselves from the wind for spray painting or adding insulation so they can work cool in the summer and warm in the winter. I do my own car work and learning how to paint so having all the walls would be important to me, also to deter thieves, I mean seriously having all your tools open for people to take makes no sense
“my wife is the one making all that noise” 😂
haha, she doesn't realize how important my work is :)
Laura Owen... I thought that was hilarious too 😆😆😆
Great video. Thanks. Is it possible to get a list of the lumber used? I am trying to calculate the number of 2x6 I would need for the job.
thank you sir 🤗🤗
No, thank you :)
Love it .... I may have to do it to get more square feet for my shop. Can it be built with a flat roof so that my neighbours won't complain
climate Vancouver Canada. I have 2 40' containers and my existing shop is 40' and I have about an extra 25' of space before I hit my hedge at the back of my property.
well done，
Thanks!
Kool idea wow iam building me one but in the middle section iam putting a lift
Excellent
Thanks!
Thanks!
Just run ur bottom plate and run all the trusses or boards across and hanger them saves alot of time cutting
Does not work on a container. The steel roofing sticks up and you have to use the 4x4 to raise it up.
That's what the bottom plate is for
Bottom plate it a 2/6 doubled or whatever then trusses sit on
@@roofking2314 I guess you didn't watch the video. That is basically what I did.
Basically yes just telling u a faster way to do it is all
@@roofking2314 The flat spot on top of the containers is just wide enough to put a 4x4. A 2" x 6" will not lay flat because of the ribs in the top of the container. They are all pretty much made the same way. You could stand 2-2x6 up and I did that on the last design. But there is only like 3 1/4" flat spot there.
Would it be possible to have a similarly built building but with a garage slab, rear wall and an over head door?
I want to do it two stacked. The top middle will be open area with glass on each end . Thick curtains. Screen deck on each end outside the glass. Parking on bottom floor. 4 stacked 2 high on each side. Yes lots of air conditioning. Electric heaters. Outdoor wood heater.
I'm in São Paulo, Brazil, your project may be a less costly solution for me. I need to build a house / shed in a small rural area. How much would you spend if you did exactly the same thing?
how thick are those two foot by two foot concrete salbs?
They are min 8 inches but they sit on bored footings as deep as needed for the location and soil type. There are details on the printed drawings that go with the models i produce. Thanks
Do you recommend enclosing the roof over top fully or leaving it open to breath? I worry about snakes or critters moving in on top if the containers but its alot more cost as well.
Some people close them in for the reasons you mentioned but this one was on a military base in Africa so it was left open. All they had there was the 2" x 6"s and the metal roofing that came in the containers.
Good video you have got in here.
Thanks!
Nice job,sir. Subbed.
Thank you much!
One additional question please. You have said in the comments repeatedly that your design is not suitable for habitation. What specifically about this roof design makes it unsuitable?
I'm having a hard time seeing why trusses arent easier. This looks doable and simple enough, but easier?
Trusses are generally easier because you just set them and nail then in place. They also clear span greater distances than typical dimension lumber. For a homeowner they don't have to worry about figuring rafter lengths. Th truss company does all of the hard stuff You just shove them up them and set them :) I wasn't sure if you were questioning trusses or rafters
The original question involved the difference in time and labor between
Building trusses yourself and stick building this way.
If one was simply buying factory made trusses it would certainly be faster to just set the trusses.
In most cases it always boils down to time or money.
Then what can be done in remote areas far from a truss factory
Becomes part of the equation.
Nice video. Thanks
Any problem getting something like this passed zoning laws?
Hi, I live in Canada, how will this roof fare with snow loads? Can two walls be framed in easily?
I think it would have to be beefed up for Canada. This was designed for an active military base in Africa where there was no snow :) I am assuming your snow load is probably 60 lbs per sf? You can contact me at atdrafting.com
Great video clip. Curious how the roof resists wind uplift?
I would put joist ties attached to the 4x4s. Although on the 4x4s i would put another piece if angle on the inside and ise through bolt's and not lag bolts. It would be extra time and money but imo it would secure the roof better. Whats your thoughts?
@@dustinearley5769 agree, thru bolts for the 4×4's then hurricane straps or similar at every roof truss joint. Plus anchor bolts /foundation rebar into the ground to keep the containers from moving - if the location is in a high wind prone area (tornados or hurricanes).
Have you designed any A-Frame homes?
Yes :) and built one in the 80's
A inbed of steel goes into the concrete pad and then the container gets welded to the inbed
I have 2-40 ft shipping containers on my property and have been toying around with a similar idea. A roofing quote almost gave me a panic attack, what would a ball park estimate be for a DIYer?
It depends on how far you went with finishes. Just to frame it and roof it probably $6,500 with 26ga 5b tin roof
@@ArtisanTony Thanks for the reply, it would be low budget. I use them mostly for storage, in FL the heat can be brutal - some shade would be nice.
I want to do something similar to this but with only 1 container.. Do you have a video on something like that??
would it be effective to put ridged foam insulation on the container roofs under the new roof
Then can a third container be put in the middle creating a bigger home? Just asking
No, put the third on the back side, with a gap space, as a working garage.
Awesome video Tony. What is the max distance you could go between the containers?
Thanks! This was for a military use where they only had 16' - 2" x 6"'s so for 16' material, 14' between the containers. But if you want to use manufactured trusses there would be only the limit of the trusses. I guess practically speaking, I would limit it to no more than 20' between them. Again, it depends on a few factors. If you make this huge roof, you are going to have to make sure the containers are secured to the ground and the trusses are secured to the containers or a decent wind will take it away for you :)
10feet between containers?
16'
I am completely new to all of this but I’m trying to build a similar design roof but want it taller so that I can have a walking deck between the containers to shoot my bow from with friends and family. Do you have any suggestions?
Stack two containers on each other so you will need 4 containers total
Just what I was looking for. Do you have contact info/materials list, etc?
I replied to your email but you can get me at tony@artisantony.com
Very good video.
Question. I live in central Florida. Can you modify your design. I would like to poor a 20x20 foot slab with a hole dug for the 3 footings on each side. Then 3 footing 8 feet away.
Place the shipping containers in place. Bolt on a wood top plate on the inside. Attach joist hangers to the top plate. Then screw in joists between the containers. Then cover with corrugated steel. Then build a simple stud back wall. On the front add a roll up garage door and an exterior door.
I can then add insulation and cover with 1/2 plywood.
Would this work for a work shop? Would a flat roof work? I feel in a heavy rain. The excess water would run off. Then the rest would evaporate.
What are your thoughts? A lot of people live in areas where it never snows. Please modify your drawing for this.
Thank you in advance.
I modify these for different people for a fee. It is what I do for a living. If you want this done, contact me at atdrafting.com to discuss the fee.Thanks
Hey Tony, roughly how much snow and wind would this style roof withstand? I appreciate you posting this video and explaining it in detail.
That is a good point and I should have mentioned that this was specifically designed for desert conditions where there is no snow loading and the building is also temporary. It also is designed around using only one type of material and length they can get in the area. I'll pin this comment so others will know. Thanks!
By the way, Chief told me that wind was not that much of a factor. I would probably not recommend this design for human habitation either. We use 4/12 pitches and more bracing and fastening on their billet buildings.
What design software are you using?
What kind of pads you put under there?
8" x 24" x 24" concrete spot footings that extend about 4" above grade.
@@ArtisanTony
A email was sent to you
@@wilandjackiecasher2822 Oh, I got it and replied. Let me know if you do not get it. Thanks
IF YOU DO NOT ALREADY OWN THE CONTAINERS... for goodness sake, investigate alternative building methods (like a pole-barn)... When you weigh the total cost of construction. Incorporating shipping containers cost more than stick building the same square footage. Not to mention the loss of usable space.
PLEASE realize that inside an 8 foot by 20 or 40 foot container... in order to get something in/out of the back you must have a walkway, so you instantly lose 2-3 feet of the 8 foot container... you just lost 1/4 to 1/3 of the "usable" area...
THE ONLY time using a shipping container makes any sense for a storage shed is if you DO NOT need to "ADD ON" to it... If you only need a 8x20 or 8x40 shed, that is the way to go...
If you calculate the cost of of the same square foot pole barn (where the entire inside is open and usable) you will find the pole barn costs LESS...
I have two 20' containers and have priced the materials in using both in one building(similar to this) and other layouts, as well as making two buildings with one container each... NONE of them pencil out compared to what I ended up building from scratch as a pole barn...
I have ended up still using the containers as they are... that is the only way they made sense financially...
Do the math... you will be surprised...
I made a video on this topic already. It is called "Shipping Containers Make No Sense" If you read the description you will see this project was a special request for an active duty friend (master chief) where they only had containers and 2" x 6" for rafters.
@David Hamilton they work for storage not living in. I have proven this in my series of videos
Volume extremely low can't hear you sir
The mic I normally use isn't working so I have to use the mic on my laptop until I can get another one but I will make it a priority :) Thanks!
Steel and concrete would last longer, but thanks, nonetheless, for your video!
gold is better than dirt and being able to read is even better which you apparently have not the ability to see that this was a request form the Seabees fighting in Africa for freedom which you have no clue of what it takes to accomplish but they needed a quick and dirty design to fight terrorists to save you but that does not matter because now you feel better telling me some shite you dreamed up. Now say you are sorry and thank master chief Don who I did this for for keeping your sorry arse free. Maybe this comment is over your head.
What programme are you using for the design ?
sketch up
Great Idea does it meet code for Canada or only idea concept
it only met code in an east African nation where US forces were kicking arse :)
This building as shown here would not meet Canadian building codes. However similar structures have been built in Canada (Alberta specifically, probably other places too) that do comply. The shipping containers need to be on a foundation extending to below frost line (concrete footings or screw piles, for example.) Roof structure needs to meet all the usual requirements for fastening, bracing, wind/snow loads, seismic, ventilation, etc. Pre-Engineered roof trusses would be a much better alternative here than stick framing. Some jurisdictions may require an Engineer's involvement since it involves some steel (welding connections for the roof anchoring.)
@@PennyZ1000 I don't thing you understand the video. It is for a specific customer I mentioned several times in the video. It is not for Canadians who think they are special :) So for non-human habitation such as for storage where the frost line is around 6" like here in SE US it works fine. Take your canadian blinders off :)
@@PennyZ1000 also, it was good enough for the special forces in Africa so I am sorry if it is not good enough for cananda :)
@@ArtisanTony No offence was intended. I understood the video perfectly. The question/comment asked was whether it would meet Canadian codes and I provided an objective, factual answer to that specific question. I have quite a bit experience in the industry here and overseas (although not in Africa so I can't speak to that specifically), I've worked with several clients on similar projects that complied with our local building conditions and requirements. I was not passing judgement on the video and definitely was not judging the worthiness of special forces in Africa.
Volume is so low it cannot be heard......
Are the rafters a 2x6 or 2x8?
Are the rafters and the ceiling joists both 2x6s?
Yes, but this was a military project and they only had 2" x 6" available. Use trusses like in the other design that I did. Thanks
Aren't these just gable trusses?
The point is, Chief Don was in an active zone in Africa and had a shipping container full of 2x6's and that is all he had so I helped him work out a truss for the storage he needed. They are more like attic trusses than gable trusses. Gable trusses are made to sit on the gable end wall and have vertical framing members that act like studs for the sheathing and siding. These are more like attic trusses.
@@ArtisanTony Thanks, I wasn't sure what they were called. It looks like they're just trusses that are built in place instead of the 'normal' bureaucratic method. Makes a LOT more sense this way. Simple is often more.
2x6 is too light for 14 foot span. Code is 2 x 8 at10 foot. I owed a house built in the 70's poor even for 2 x 8 at 14. It was 23 foot wide and lapped in the middle on a center beams and piers. It was a hard one re-square to get the doors through out the building to close. The floor rolled as well. Lots of re-work 40 years latter!
Maybe you didn’t watch the video or read the description
This was for active military base who only had 16 foot 2x6 and it worked fine. What do you do for a living? Also, the spans you quote are wrong. Give a link for what "code" or span table you are quoting? 2" x 6" at 16" o/c will span 13'5 with 20/10 loading. Please do not quote facts unless you are going to quote your source. You do realize there are different spans for different loading and wood species types right? I'll give you a few days to respond then I'll delete your comment because you obviously do not understand the project or the span tables.
I'm needing this, but the containers are 20 foot apart.
read the top comment, modify it yourself
The space between the containers was 14ft and a 16ft board across the space. 5:53 The inner space would be 14ft wide, 20ft long, 9ft high. But take note, some shipping container's height are not 9ft.
I think I just found my pole building! Can anyone have an idea what the roofing cost to be if a contractor would do the work?
This is exactly what I need! But would like a bit of overhang in front about 8 ft. I'd also like to have an estimate; anyone?
what application do you use for your desing? thanks
You cant read its in the description under the video
I am looking for about your product place lace me a message. When I post this , I am looking for more information on this . I am looking for more information on how to do this on your computer I'm trying to figure out how I can do is shipping container like that for where I can put underground with a tiny house on top of it and use the inside for some plant I need to figure out how you did that on your computer can you get back to me soon as possible and let me know where how she fixes broken up on your computer or tablet
You can contact me at atdrafting.com/request-for-service
Can you give me a sketchup container drawing? Thanks you very much. Im Vietnamese.
ดีมากไม่รู้ว่าจะดีเท่าเวอร์ชั่นเกาหลีหรือเปล่า