You Need a Magic Mentor

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  • čas přidán 19. 06. 2024
  • To really advance in magic, you need a mentor, and in this episode of Erudite Magic, I'm going to share why you need one, the benefits, and some potential candidates for you.
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    ⏰ Timestamps:
    0:00 - Magic can be lonely
    0:35 - Learning magic used to be different
    1:39 - Having a mentor isn't just reading a magic book
    2:20 - Benefits of learning from a mentor
    3:05 - Benefit #2
    3:58 - Benefit #3
    4:46 - Don's Magic & Books
    5:30 - Card Magic Mentors
    6:51 - Other Magic Mentors
    7:46 - There are mentors for everyone

Komentáře • 47

  • @raykwon7
    @raykwon7 Před 8 měsíci +10

    RIP DARWIN ORTIZ - a mentor to so many.❤😢

    • @MexieMex
      @MexieMex Před 8 měsíci +3

      Indeed, such a loss for the community

    • @RDGTEX
      @RDGTEX Před 8 měsíci +2

      I will be referencing his body of work until the day I die. RIP Darwin.

    • @Jim_S.
      @Jim_S. Před 8 měsíci +2

      He would be my #1.

  • @kalvheps5973
    @kalvheps5973 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Yes,RIP Darwin Ortiz.

  • @andrewgmerek1514
    @andrewgmerek1514 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Just discovered Don's Magic and Books. What an amazing shop for magicians who love books.

  • @kalvheps5973
    @kalvheps5973 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Best mentor on the planet: A book 📕!

    • @EruditeMagic
      @EruditeMagic  Před 8 měsíci +1

      Real life mentors are great, too, but not feasible for everyone

  • @magictomi8433
    @magictomi8433 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Great content
    Rip Darwin Ortiz 😢

  • @davidcupps991
    @davidcupps991 Před 8 měsíci +4

    Excellent. These videos are always helpful and relevant. I appreciate you creating these.

    • @EruditeMagic
      @EruditeMagic  Před 8 měsíci

      Thank you for watching and taking time to comment, David! 🙏

    • @jethro1963
      @jethro1963 Před 8 měsíci +1

      I have a suggestion for a video but I'm not sure if you have done something similar yet. You may have and I missed it. I would love to see a video about books that are not devoted to a single trick, but one trick in it is worth the price of the book or well beyond that. My examples would be Gene Anderson's Newspaper Magic (The Torn and Restored Newspaper) and Martin Lewis' Making Magic (Cardiographic). I think those two are almost in a "breakthrough" type territory whereas I think few card effects might be in that territory. Ok, I admit it, I'm not keen on card tricks :)

    • @EruditeMagic
      @EruditeMagic  Před 8 měsíci

      Great idea! Thanks for sharing 👍

  • @georgeyounts9391
    @georgeyounts9391 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Another great post! And books are wonderful. I love books. But if good routines that you are a GOD over? Entertain Folks with? Create Art With? You Are Known for? Is your goal? Then commit to an effect. Road test it for a year. Then you'll find out if you've reached your goal. But books could suck up one's time from that goal.... because one is in a perpetual state of always getting ready..... to do something ;)

    • @EruditeMagic
      @EruditeMagic  Před 8 měsíci +1

      Great point! I read a lot of books every year (surprise!), but I rarely adopt a new trick - I have my set that I've curated over the years, and it's rare to find something that fits me and what I want to share with my audiences. So while books *can* be distracting, they don't have to be.

  • @bryanfarley6588
    @bryanfarley6588 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I spotted Mr. Edmund!

    • @EruditeMagic
      @EruditeMagic  Před 8 měsíci

      The dangers of being a close friend 😉

  • @MexieMex
    @MexieMex Před 8 měsíci +2

    The point about learning how to read magic books is so important, it's a skill you get better at the more you do it. Far too many new magicians try one book (often too advanced and written in archaic language) and decide magic books aren't for them which is a huge shame.

    • @EruditeMagic
      @EruditeMagic  Před 8 měsíci +1

      Like all skills - even performing!

    • @MexieMex
      @MexieMex Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@EruditeMagic Indeed, but far too many people don't realise that reading magic books is a skill, they think because they once read Harry Potter or something they are equipped to read the books this channel covers with no extra effort, and after trying Erdnase as their first magic book, they just stop and stick to crappy video downloads.

    • @EruditeMagic
      @EruditeMagic  Před 8 měsíci +1

      Yes, sometimes you have to work a bit to get there

    • @markusdeminger6258
      @markusdeminger6258 Před 8 měsíci +2

      ​@@MexieMex I totally agree with you Mexie - my first book was Erdnase because I became curious about it after watching the Richard Turner Doku. I felt totally disappointed when I had the "bible" of card magic in my hands at first because the historic language and also the descriptions were not suited for a complete beginner. The next book was Royal Road to Card Magic which was so much more beginner friendly and suited for my beginner level. I guess sometimes people are disappointed when they go for the advanced stuff before they even have the basics down. However the good side is if you buy a magic book and discover it is not appropriate for your current level you can simply put it on the shelf and return to it later.

    • @EruditeMagic
      @EruditeMagic  Před 8 měsíci

      You have to walk before you can run 🏃

  • @jethro1963
    @jethro1963 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Just thinking about it for a few seconds, I would have to say Lewis Ganson was my mentor. Not just because he was a guy who wrote some books or someone whose books I have unconsciously collected not really noticing, but as a teacher. You could say the same about Tarbell but in my case my analogy would be I graduated my one year of kindergarten and my teacher was Tarbell. Later I had a choice and kept picking Ganson as my elementary school teacher from Grades 1 to 6. Terrible analogy but kinda true in my case.

    • @EruditeMagic
      @EruditeMagic  Před 8 měsíci

      Love the analogy and the pick!

    • @donunicycle
      @donunicycle Před 8 měsíci +2

      Lewis Ganson wrote so many good magic items. It's kind of sad that when I asked a group of 30-something magicians about Ganson, none of them knew who I was talking about. :(

    • @EruditeMagic
      @EruditeMagic  Před 8 měsíci

      @donunicycle hey, I'm 30-something...🤔

    • @jethro1963
      @jethro1963 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@donunicycle I am going to admit my modern knowledge is very limited but over the course of several books and really teaching more than exposing, I can't think of many better than Ganson. He was one of those authors where everything was crystal clear, including the photos, which IMO often may not have revealed everything clearly in other books. Back in the day, where I had questions and probably wished I had a video, you didn't need it with him.

  • @Fredrickconjurer
    @Fredrickconjurer Před 8 měsíci +1

    Studying the works of a performer in chronological order is a great way to see how their approach and thinking evolved and changed (or didn’t).

  • @ScottRSmith1964
    @ScottRSmith1964 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Thanks for the show! I always look forward to Sunday’s at 11 am Central time. Have a fantastic day! I adore so many magic books.

  • @RobertBallMagician
    @RobertBallMagician Před 8 měsíci +1

    This is a great upload 👍😊👍👍

  • @nancyanderson5320
    @nancyanderson5320 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Jeff wonderful advice, books are the most wonderful way to have many mentors, It is not about reading- but studying, learning and revisiting ideas, a chance to learn different magician’s philosophy about magic. Giobbi was my first mentor and it was such a treat to meet him in person at the Sessions. Thank you for your videos.

  • @AI6K
    @AI6K Před 8 měsíci +1

    You've mentioned taking notes multiple times. Have you done a video on how to actually do that, or can you recommend a book that would help someone learn.

    • @EruditeMagic
      @EruditeMagic  Před 8 měsíci +1

      Check out this video for my process: czcams.com/video/e9DKjzGOm9Q/video.html

  • @RDGTEX
    @RDGTEX Před 8 měsíci +1

    Excellent advice on learning from books. Serendipitously, I have recently been gravitating toward this approach and have been acquiring collective works by mentors whose magic aligns with my exploration of the art.

    • @EruditeMagic
      @EruditeMagic  Před 8 měsíci +1

      That's cool - who are you studying?

    • @RDGTEX
      @RDGTEX Před 8 měsíci +1

      I have added both the Pit Harling and Jack Parker books to my collection. Most of my books are one-offs, specific to an area I am researching. However, this is the first time I have taken this approach. Mind you, it was not planned; it just turns out that the subject content for this video serendipitously provided me with a brand new paradigm.

    • @EruditeMagic
      @EruditeMagic  Před 8 měsíci +1

      Ha, I love it!

  • @twatmunro
    @twatmunro Před 8 měsíci +1

    It's not often I disagree with you, but I disagree with this one. I just don't think books count as mentoring. Of course, it's great to be systematic about how you read and learn, but you can't interrogate a book in the same way you can a real person. You can't ask a book to clarify or expand upon something. I think this is a really interesting way to approach the way you read and learn, but I'm just not sure that mentoring is the appropriate name for it.