Why is this optioned 1966 Dodge Charger so overpriced? | The Appraiser
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- čas přidán 25. 08. 2024
- Episode: 26
In this episode of "The Appraiser," Colin has the pleasure of looking over a rust free 1966 Dodge Charger from the Arizona desert with all the right factory options. It has a 383ci V8, Black on black color scheme with chrome finish, factory 4-speed, center console, and bucket seats both front and rear. Will the owner be surprised by the price? Will Colin find any major flaws? Tune in and find out.
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Awesome car. And I'm not even a mopar guy. People get so hung up about originality. The car looks to be 90% original. The kid is enjoying it and that beats a perfect garage queen any day in my book. Good on you young man.
Same!!! Definitely not a Mopar guy, but dang these were cool cars! Chrysler interior up until about 68 were incredible. They just don't build'em like this anymore!
Agree 100%
that car........... WOW !
"People get so hung up about originality" You're right on, and I think this attitude is going to change in the long run. If I'm going to daily drive this, even as a weekender, I'd definitely look to put some upgrades in this for safety, comfort and performance reasons. I'm all for originality - but sometimes it just makes sense to continue to enjoy it.
@@velvetsmack2645 - Over the years many parts and solutions are superior to old OEM. The idea that I should put old crappy rubber hoses and a lead acid battery or suffer with a cassette deck or a ten pound a/c compressor just because it came that way is stupid. I can understand not butchering things or changing the intent of the manufacturer in a major way but to obsess over hose clamps and the right color cadmium (which you can’t even get anymore) bolts is ridiculous.
That's a sweet ride and congrats to Daniel for taking such good care of it. $40K seems like a steal in this day and age...much rather buy this for $40K than some crappy new SUV
Absolutely agree!!!
lol this car would be for sale for 3 years at $40K. 66/67 chargers just sit.
My Grandfather taught me how to drive in his '67 383 Charger, metallic blue with white leather interior and automatic trans. Loved that car!
Lucky you! Nice color combo too.
Did any American car in the 60's actually have leather instead of vinyl?
@@garyg7145wasn't leather. Was vinyl
I learned to drive in my Mom's 1966 Charger. It was a 318 car but the first time I drove it by myself after getting my license I felt like king of the world. The 66 Charger will always be my favorite car of all time. So different and unique with so many special features. Dodge just knocked it out of the park with this one.
I remember seeing one of those cars in silver in the Spring of 1966. I was just a kid and I was absolutely blown away by its futuristic style.
I had a Silver 67, this video is painful to watch. Drool
@@richhauxwell7848 My sister had a silver/black vinyl 67 back in the early 70s. Red interior 440 mag, torgueflite, disc brakes, am/FM, air and p/windows. Very fun to drive. Its still in the family, awaiting a resto.
That guy is a unicorn.
Not many young guys with good taste around anymore.
My husband has more than 40K in our'66. We love it! No regrets.
You failed to mention that those back seats fold flat and are carpeted on the back. The panel separating the interior from the trunk also folds down, making the whole area behind the front seats into a long flat carpeted area.
So it’s almost a hatchback? Somehow, this car just got cooler in my book
Was great for getting a couple hours sleep at a roadside pullout on a long journey😁
Had a 66-318 auto, red with white interior, then a 67 black on black 383 auto, the fold down rest seats and back panel, I could put 3 friends in the trunk to go to the drive in, they got into the car through the panel, no charge (before there were car full night's) the 67 didn't have the full length console tho
@@dlemare bet that's not the only roadside pullout this car has seen
So the story is that several of this era of cars had more cargo room than met the eye. 1st gen fastback Mustangs had back seats that would fold down forward supposedly flat and leave an enormous cargo area, same with the Valiant, which is the precursor to the Barracuda. Then again, inn my 1968 Country Squire you could fit a whole sheet of 4x8 plywood and close the tailgate. In a car. And then haul ass. Modern SUVs can suck it.
Really cool to see a unique, driver-quality car actually being enjoyed, rather than pampered and trailered from auction to auction. Highland Park Hummingbird 8:03
Parallel parking was a chore with these, I usually tried to pull in and out 😳
I’m sad you didn’t show another best interior feature of this car. It’s electroluminescent dash lighting. Still all kidding aside absolutely beautiful car in black. I’m not a Mopar guy either but I think the fist generation Charger is the best of the bunch. Probably because to me this has has a European flair to it
Another interior feature was that you could fold down the bucket seats and camp /sleep in the back.
There's a good chance they were not working. The gauge needles glow until the small wire attached to them breaks off from time and use.
He mentioned the gauges but not the lights. I'm assuming they weren't working but should have mentioned them anyway. Awesome dash.
Colin is not only a professional in his field of appraising, but a professional in dealing with people and their prize possessions. Colin you are outstanding in dealing with all the people that dawn your garage. Really enjoy watching your program. Thank you.
I'll always have a soft spot for these for a sad reason. @ 1980 My Dad had picked up a very nice 66 with either the 318 or 360, white with red interior for very little. He was out of state for a while, I flew to Montana and drove it back to Colorado at @17 years old. The day after getting it home, I made a stupid left/u-turn on a 4-lane road and got t-boned by a 1.5 ton flatbed. When done, I could hold the steering wheel, spread my elbows out and could almost touch both sides of the interior. Very lucky I survived. I know it soured my relationship with my Dad for a long time after. I was so sad to try to part out a very nice car with that tailight bringing the most money.
Sad to hear, glad you weren't seriously injured, the 1st gen came with 318 poly , also called a wide block. 361, 383,426 Hemi and 440. 360 came out in 71
Damn, I can imagine this will never stop stinging when thinking about it.
My little sister got a new bike for her birthday years ago, before she could ride it I took it for a spin around the block when I pulled up to her I slammed on the brakes and it broke In half 🫣
November of 1982 bought a 66 Charger for $800, my intent was to build a short track race car. The seller said it was a big block car, maybe even a hemi. When I bought it the engine was an old wide block 318 and the seller gave me a 426 hemi he had sitting next to his garage. The fender tag showed the original engine was a 361. I built a race car out of it, pulling the 318 and installed a 440 from an ex sheriffs car. The fifth race of the year I was hit by a car that was spinning and knocked into the front stretch wall. The impact ripped the right front suspension and most of the subframe from the car. Plus I flipped over onto the roof and was hit in the driver's door by another car. Hauled the car home and parked it next to a 69 Charger body I had. Spent a week moving everything from one car to the other. The next Saturday night I was back on the track. I sold the hemi to a guy running top alcohol funny cars for $2000.
All the Hagerty shows are just pure class. Love this channel!
With some of the material Colin has looked at and appraised lately, I was shocked at how low this charger was valued at. I could have sworn it would have been double.
I am a big fan. I own a ‘67 Charger (even more rare) I’ve had it for 40 years. Every time I take it out. People stare at it and wonder what it is. I love it. Mines gold on gold with the 383 w/automatic. Love em!!
I have a 66 gold on gold that I still drive.
I had one in 1974, mind was Silver with Black interior, 383ci with Automatic trans....Loved that Car and Miss it. Bob
I always loved those first gen Charger. Remember a white one in my city when i was a teenager. One of the two cars (The other one being a white Trans Am from the begining of the 70's) i remember thinking i would love to own one day. Congrats to the young owner. Keep driving and enjoy.
Awesome. Love this Hagerty series.
Love that interior. I’d have that car over the general lee anyday!
Ship it to the UK & double that valuation mate !!!
I really like what he did with the rear springs or tires or whatever. The weak spot in the Chargers looks was that the rear tires and wheels always looked a little too small for the rest of the car, but this one looks great!
Great car! So cool a young guy like Daniel has such an appreciation for old Mopars!
Great to see this car always one of my favorites. I was a mid teen at the time and my best friends dad bought one new I still remember sitting in it and loving it.
First time I saw this car was on an old 60's movie called " Demension Five." The secret agent drove it around. I think he had a device he wore that made him disappear. Lol. Kinda like this body style. Mopar enthusiasts either really love it or hate it. But, it has its own style of coolness to it, especially the interior. Great looking ride.
I love the stance on this car. This body style looks so much better with beefier tires. Nice car.
"You don't expect a stick shift in a big ole muscle car like this". That's certainly true of Mopars, whose owners were/are mostly the AT type. But, more than a few Ford and GM (mostly Chevy) buyers wanted their muscle coupled with a third pedal and a stick. True to this day.
Mostly the AT type? 🤣
These cars aren't worth what they are asking for them lately. In 20 years it'll be a tough sell to even sell most of them because most of us who grew up with these cars as new daily drivers will all be gone.
The only actual sales are passing from boomer to boomer now. Soon enough their kids will inherit them and sell them for pennies compared to what they are asking now.
@@super-kami-guru I'm 53, obviously grew up with these cars being everywhere, but I also agree with your assessment. The only thing old cars have over new one's is the looks, everything else that makes it a car is substandard in every way, especially in the safety department. My first car was a '67 Nova II, they want stupid money now for a car I bought in 1984 for $250 cash, I'll probably own one again in 20 years for the nostalgia of it all, and I expect to find one for a decent price by then, surely not todays crazy high numbers.
I've seen a few late 70s camaros get up into the lower 100,000 dollar range this week. Absolutely absurd. They're $25k cars all day, at best. But there's always a few guys with more money than brains that "set the market" based on auction prices. Silliness.
@@michaelfried3123 67 Nova's are not too crazy compared to other collectable classics, 20 years is long time to wait for prices to go down. If you can do bit of welding and fabrication you can get a fixer upper. Personally i enjoy most of the restoration process and i know whats under the pant when i do it myself. besides i could never trust someone to work on my pride and joy unless it's upholstery.
@@michaelfried3123 just like the model a hotrod type cars crashed, eventually the muscle cars will crash as well. That's just how it goes with classic cars, except for the ultra rare stuff the prices are mostly driven by nostalgia. I wouldn't mind an old mopar but 40k with no ac and jc whitney engine dress up, no thanks 😂
Brings back great memories. I learned to drive when I was 12 years old (65 now) in my dad’s 1968 Chrysler Newport, 383 Magnum, maroon with black vinyl top. Cruised the King Ranch highway in south Texas many weekends.
My dad bought a 1966 Charger when I was 16. Silver, red interior, 383 4V, Torqueflite, power windows, brakes and steering, but no A/C. Would pass almost anything except a gas station! 16 MPG highway was about the best you could get out of it.
If you nursed it it would get around 17 in town and 22 on highway. I have one now!
All the modifications made make sense, and are reversible. Although anyone who took the disc brakes off is a fool. I love the 66 Dash. This is a nice car, and in some ways, cooler than the 68. 4 Bucket Seats is reminiscent of the Espada, which was not even out yet, and mentioning again, that dash, it is awesome at night.
Maybe the coolest and one-year-only item for these was the lighting of the instrument cluster. Why'd you skip that?
66 & 67
a buddy of mine has this same exact Charger in a light blue, all original, low miles, and has it's own room in the house
Original Chargers like this fine specimen are few and far between. This beauty can only go up in value. I'm glad it's in good hands.
I grew up Chevy, my dad bought a 1970 K5 blazer to his specs when I was about 3 years old and ended up driving it in high school. 1985/1986. But if I saw a cool mustang,Charger,Challenger,Corvette or whatever. I like what I like. Funny thing is I have a couple Fords now and they are great.1993 F150 in good if not great condition and a 1994 Bronco sport in white with NOT OJ plates. I’d still like a Chevy c3 corvette and a 66/67 Chevelle though. A cool RIDE is is cool to you. This black ‘66 is cool!
I will also add I saw a yellow Plymouth Road Runner today, I think it was a Road Runner? It had the big Richard Petty wing on the back….Beautiful!
I was a grade school kid when these were new, and I thought they were really cool looking way back then. And I'm pleased that seeing one again now, it still looks cool!
Man thats one beautiful 66 Dodge Charger brother
My favorite Charger a '66! The '68 is my 2nd favorite.
Beautiful car. I had a 66 for several years in the 70s and have always loved the look of these cars including the interior with the rear bucket seats. They're just really cool muscle cars all the way around.
I’d give him $35k all day long for that car. Great classic, very well kept for the most part.
Had one ...my dad bought new. Loaded 383 auto, Forrest Green with white... Donno, but If it was black, I would have thought more of it. I'd still like a nice one, today!
Great car. I love that he uses it. The information that Collin provides is great. I wish the episodes were longer and gave even more detail.
That charger is awesome, one of my top 20 cars. This is the way I like my cars, not perfect but clean, solid drivers and not rough with a bunch of scabs and Band-Aids. If you spent about a day casually working on that paint and chrome it would take that car to the next level. Just for something easy to do I would get some Production Midnight Special glaze and feed that paint, it looks really dry and hungry
My first car was the 66, silver with red, 383, 4 speed. I washed and waxed that car alot. Took my drivers test in it.
Always wanted a black 66...only with that white interior some Mopars had
Good luck finding a charger that nice for 35K, if that went to Barrett Jackson, I'd bet it would sell for at least 70K.
I think 35,000 is a very reasonable price for that car, it’s desirable and it’s in good working order. On the other hand find another one. Maybe there’s five of them black on black first edition with air conditioning and coming from Arizona really I’m thinking the car is worth closer to $45-$50,000 like I said find another one! I do love the show though!
$40k sounds over the top for anything other than the auction circuit or a BaT listing with two overeager bidders. Nothing against the car itself, but if we're going to be serious about value, we need to be serious about the flaws that aren't receiving the highlight they should in this video. Most notably, the paint job: Yes, we've been told the paint is really thin, but it's clearly an old single-stage job. It's not well sprayed, full of orange peel - especially on the bodysides - and it is so porous that the pores are visible to the eye (look at the opening shot with the 383 badge). Decklid closeup shows that there's already pinhole rust forming under the paint due to this porosity. If it spent just a week in a humid climate, it'd break out in rust all over the place, turning a $40k Charger into a $12k Charger in immediate need of $10k in rust repairs and refinishing.
Also, the driver's side cowl is holding water and rotten. Look at the cowl above the firewall seam (near the master cylinder) at 4:03. Major work needs to happen there; doesn't matter that everything around it looks nice. It'll take a lot of time and dirty work to fix that too.
Plus, steering wheel is cracked, the aluminum sections of the brightwork (grill surround, specifically) has some minor dents in it, and there's probably a host of other things you can't see in this video that betray the fact that while this is a very nice survivor, it's by no means perfect. Not to say this is a "problem," after all, beausage is it's own beauty. Perfection would ruin the fun of a '66 Charger as a daily.
But the fact remains that it _really_ needs that cowl fixed and a full refinish just to make sure it _stays_ nice. That paint job is a ticking time bomb and the appraisal should reflect this. Unfortunately, it's reflecting that the current market remains ignorant and willing to throw too much money at a vehicle as it looks in the moment, with zero consideration of paint as a maintenance item that'll make or break whether that sheet metal remains nice (assuming, of course, that the quarters and other problem areas haven't already been patched, and - of course - the gamble as to whether these patches were executed properly or fixed with excessive filler).
Incidentally, major props to whoever made the decision to put the later FMJ master cylinder on the firewall with the adapter plate. These actually work and hold fluid; the steel rebuilds and even the new steel ones turn to junk in a matter of months. Not even referring to the bare steel outside (you can always spray that), referring to constant leaks out the rear seal and the top of the master. They're simply not worth it if you want a reliable driver, and the FMJ master solves it all. The modern circular cap reservoir means you can easily pressure bleed them too.
same thing i was thinking what it needs a great paint job black is the hardest color to paint
It was very attractive car in its day and it has passed the test of time, I enjoyed driving a automatic back in the day!!
I’m surprised the appraiser didn’t mention the fact that that first Gen Charger body was initially designed to be the Chrysler turbine car, that’s why it has some jet-esk styling features and a super futuristic interior and gauge cluster.
1966 is my favorite year for cars.
Nice to see first-gen Chargers getting some love, but they may still be the least-expensive way to get into a 426 Hemi car.
Absolutely. Gen 1 Chargers were the highest production Hemi car. I saw a Hemi auto sell for $58k last year. Buyer actually pulled the Hemi for another car.
Never been a huge '66-'67 Charger fan, but this video made me want one.
the odd part of these Chargers is, how its put together. the stance, the rumble, wheels, tires, color. they all come together to either hit or miss.
i love mine, but i spent serious time planning her look. the factory wheels and tires definitely took away from the design. i think this is why they didn't sell so well. it looked like a huge frame on spindly supports with vast amounts of empty space in the wheel area.
i filled the wheel wells with 18x12 in rear and 18x10 up front. leveled it out and lifted with tighter springs/torsion twist. added the 64 max wedge scoop to break up the huge hood of empty space. she was born a 318, (now aluminum head 440) and will never be a show winner, but i'll never pull up to a light and see an identical.
just like any car, its all about how it makes you feel.
A classic muscle car that's driven, used and cared for. Not shoved in a temp controlled warehouse with a tarp and only brought out for "auction"
Solid paint correction and exterior detailing plus working AC +$3-4,000 in value
Nice looking car and the 4 speed makes it. I own a 1967 Charger Hemi 4 speed, one of 58 made in 1967. I bought it three years ago and have gone through the car extensively. The 66-67 Chargers are really unique, there are differences between the 66 and 67 that one finds out when trying to find parts. Even the bellhousing on a 66 Hemi 4 speed is different from a 67 Hemi 4 speed . The starter for the 67 Hemi is a one year only, solenoid on the bottom, very hard to find. I like the black on black. MIne is Gold on Gold, I am told by Galen Govier that there were only 3 Gold 4 speed Hemi cars made in 1967 and 2 of those cars had black interior and only one had gold interior. It appears I have the one of one. I'm not sure what it is worth but Colin would know. Enjoy the Hagerty channel, it always brings out the best in cars.
All the things that have been changed add to driveability, and can all be turned back original in a couple weekends.....well I guess the brakes maybe not. But modern wheels and tires make all the difference in driveability for sure.
Good info - but you missed the camping feature - back seats fold forward (as does centre armrest) and rear panel folds into the trunk. All carpeted - sleeps two easy
The shagin wagon. There's an old ad for them with a guy sleeping in the back with a deer he just killed.
@@danpals7678 Not an ad. It was a dealer slide show.
I had a triple white 68 charger back in 71 (no air, automatic) for a couple of years then upgraded to a triple black 73 charger. Again, NO AIR..... Boy what a difference between the 2 if they sat out in the sun all day. To this day, I don’t want a black vehicle. But, it’s kinda different if you have AC....
Here's a guy who looks a car over and doesn't mentioned the rear end?
Force be with the factory Sure Grip posi- that's the kind of stuff us car freaks like to hear.
My all time dream car!
A very nice car! It is rare that it has a 4 speed big block with air conditioning.
My car is rare optioned brown interior but only one that came with black floor mats
Another creator months ago said that Hagerty makes some of the best car videos on YT... Yep 🤠👍Never a dull moment here.
Love the car and the wheels are a great match.
I am always rooting for lower numbers to make cool cars more available to people, BUT this car is really worth quite a bit. I don't know how much of a PITA it will be to get that heating and AC working with a model/year correct installation, but that needs to happen asap. I could see 40K for this car being a not-so-foolish purchase, but this is in the price range where there are a lot of nice options. Didn't the '66 have electroluminescent lighting in locations on the instrument panel? I wonder if that works.
Great car!
Love your videos, keep up the great work
Great car, just as cool in real life, and Danny’s even greater and cooler than his car!!! Watch out world, Danny Fresh is coming to ya in his 66 Charger 😎🤩
I think it is worth every bit of $35 in 2023..i'm sure there are people who would pay more than that if they wanted a 1st year black/black 4 speed Charger, this is a nice one.
Sweet that's just like the one my dad had when he was young only his had red interior and a 360 big block under the hood.....
Nice car!
I had a 1966 charger also. Mint green, 318, 3 speed automatic. Same interior.
Very reliable car. Loved the car and the interior. Color not so much. Fyi
My high school ride, 440, four speed, white interior, black outside
My aunt had one in the 70's. She rear ended a guy. We got out and no damage to her car, but she left her grill implant on the other car!
My second vehicle was an 86 Ram Charger Prospector 4wd. Loved that truck. Only thing I would have changed was wish it had the 360 instead of the 318.
Very informative…nice analysis
The title on this one is a bit misleading. I like the car and would love to have one like that.
I could have bought almost the exact car in 1976 was a 1967 with a 440 magnum 4 speed for $600 dollars black on black..... I begged my mom for the money she wouldn't give it to me, so the guy dropped the price to 400 dollars and I had to tell the guy I didn't have the money.... I was only 15 years old in high school. If only we could turn back the clock!
It isn't overpriced if someone wants it and has the financial resources to pay for it .
It is only overpriced to someone who wants it but can't pay for it.
Unfortunately to the buyers two people with deep pockets will try to outbid each other ,further pushing prices to unnatural heights.
@@9ijnht5rdx The worst are the flippers and dealers.
@9ijnht5rdx How is it unfortunate for buyers?
There are always going to be people with more money to spend than others.
If they have the disposable income to spend whose businesses is it how they spend it?
Should sellers be forced to sell to those with less money just so those buyers can have the vehicle that they want?
These are one of those cars you either love or hate. The shape of that roof is pretty far out there looking a lot like a AMC Marlin. I actually like these very cool love the interior and the way the console goes right through to the back seat. You won't see many of these running around.
The Marlin was underpowered and not as low and long. LOL.
The Baracuda that preceeded these Chargers is the one I've always admired. Same basic car, just a little smaller from what I remember. 383 4bbl. and a 4 sp. with a sure grip rear-end. With some modern appointments it can still be alot of fun. Everyone debates what the first true musclecar was? Chrysler C300 in 1955.
The Valiant/Barracuda had nothing in common with the '66 Charger. I've owned three.
Colin, This is one of my very favorite series on You tube but you have to start filming these in a parking lot or at a park somewhere. The cars in the background are TOO distracting! Not to mention the airplane museum (that place kills me). Keep up the great work!
My favourite car except would like the hemi and in red 🤤 4 bucket seats so cool 😎
Oh boy did not say anything about fold down rear buckets! I freak every body at the lumber yard out when i put 10 full sheets (4ft.x8ft.) of 5/8 plywood in the "trunk" close the lid & drive off! Yes, i have one too. My first car in fact.
I know you know I'm a little biased, but honestly i think this estimate was low. Fair, on the low side though. Mine is a 383-E but automatic. Wasnt his intake factory for that engine? DP4B? I'd rather have a 4spd but 375hp is better than 335 with an automatic. Anyway thank you for the interest in the rare & unique 1st Gen
Just beautiful!
Only problem is you" pass everything but a gas station" Beautiful car
awesome! Love a 1st Gen
great lines.
i also think I would insure it for like 60k.
go find another this nice
Easy you can’t give the 66/67 away.
Nice I have the same car..had two but the other was stolen last year. Amazing platform and getting harder to find
Beautiful car Daniel! I wish I’d kept my ‘66 black with red interior 383 auto.
This is, like, my favourite American muscle car ever. So completely bombastic.
Get you one.
Bombastic, now there's a word you hardly ever hear anymore. One might use grandiloquent, as well !!
@@bentnickel7487 60s words for 60s cars.
@@TerribleUsernameAmirite I was a junior in high school in 66, so bombastic was dead on.
Mid 60's cars are as competent as current cars. However the 383 is a boat anchor unless it has a 4bbl.
It’s beautiful!
It's Awesome...and being Care for, I don't care what it's worth, the Drive is the payback, his explanation for why Mopar I understand completely, I grew with Classic Pontiac, Trans Am and Tempest, when I told my beloved Uncle Chris, I like those, pointing at a late 60s Dart, You? Like those?.. hahaha RIP Uncle Chris..
Daily driver 68 Dart 318 swapped Grandma special.. cheers from Huntington Beach CA
looks like the old Barracuda and Marlin style I had one
All should have a blower and a Gear Vendors, and at least 512ci
Nice ride,I had a chance at buying 66 Charger WITH ORIGINAL 426Hemi/4speed,he wanted 70k IN 2015,,,I went for a 70'Nova SS BBC INSTEAD
Whenever i see these old chargers, I cant help but to think of the Rambler Marlin. They look quite alike .
@@billmcdevitt1298 Why do I get all the Geniuses? Can I have a break? Sheesh!
No. The Charger was longer and lower with much more hefty power plants under the hood!
@@1966-Charger yeah, great.
Great model love the interior in these. You don’t need air it just more rubbish under the bonnet Those wheels are old school which suits these over stupid hubcaps an a bit wider for handling . Where are you going to get another one I’m giving it 💯because you can not buy them any more . Go on find another black with black go on we’re is it no you won’t so this car is💯stuff the stupid air .
One best mopars made great car Daniel
Black is NOT a color, but a shade
It’s a complete void of any light, color. But yeah, shade is much cooler!
The market is so volatile anymore, I swear....
In the time it took to make and publish this episode, the value of this car on the Hagerty Valuation Guide
in #3 condition is now $35,000, up $5k from what Colin says here.
Yes, I'm a lifelong Mopar guy so yes, I love this car. It exudes musclecar genes.
- Ed on the Ridge