The Porsche 718 Spyder RS is BETTER than the GT4 RS *On the road | 4k
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- čas přidán 9. 06. 2024
- In my opinion, the Porsche 718 Spyder RS is a better road car compared to the razor sharp GT4 RS
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Running Order of this video;
00:00 Intro
03:26 The Bad Bits
09:44 The Good Bits
15:12 Spirited Drive
16:45 Conclusion
19:35 The Complicated roof
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I am a 4RS owner and I don't find it too loud at all but just GORGEOUS! I just completed a 1,300 km rallye over 3.5 days on twisty mountain roads with it and it was just 🥰!
After years of 911’s I have a GTS 4.0 Boxster and absolutely love it, great.engine, right size for U.K. roads and electric roof
Spot on - the 981 and 982 718 NA GTS whether Cayman or Boxster are fantastic. Also owned plenty of 911s inc RS. Not a great fan of the 992 GT3 or GT3 RS. The 991.2 GT3 touring and 991.2 GT3 RS are better looking and more engaging. My personal picks are the 981 GTS, 718 GTS 4.0L, 718 RS Spyder or 4RS, 991.2 GT3 touring and 991.2 GT3 RS. The 992 GT3 is a more anodyne version of the 991.2 GT3 RS and the 992 GT3 RS is over blown although a technical tour de force.
Totally agree, had a 991.2 GT3 previously which was brilliant then a 992 Targa GTS which I wasn’t a fan of, too heavy and long / wide.
THIS!
GTS is a Great choice.
And for me that's the small fast roadster to own, great engine with electric roof. If the RS had the electric roof for me it would be perfect just can't understand how adding a few KGs to give it an electric roof mechanism would have in any way compromised the cars abilities
at full chat, that intake sound is fantastic, absolutely fantastic.
Have one on order, build date is late May, so excited! :)
What are your specs?
@@stephaneasselin3359 Porsche code: PRH749Z0
I’ve had my Spyder for over a year now and I would take it over any 911. Never looked back or missed the boring 992. I’m trying to get a Spyder RS allocation but the regular Spyder is perfect already.
Absolute weapon - amazing production quality as usual Joe! Loving the video so far! 😁
Beautiful car, great review as always and gotta love the matching shoes
Awesome vid as always! Would have been better with good weather! Commenting as would want you in even better rides…as your reviews help the likes of me, when we get our money right to get in these cars in a few years time..keep going..informative and great content as always bud!
I love that in the "sunny segment" of the video you predicted that it was probably going to be the only sunny bit you'd get. It made me laugh! 🤣🤣
Great review, as always. Not a fan of convertibles, but there is something about two-seaters that make them work. Love it!
Liked this video Joe. Nice work buddy 👌
A great balanced review Joe!
Enjoying that roof down experience no matter sun or rain - good on you! 😂
Awesome video, this car launches like crazy!
Big applause for Joe taking the roof off
In CROCS!!
It’s a great start to my Sunday
🙊
Great video as always mate 👍
Great review Joe
Joe I see that your shoes matches the car was that planned or coincidence 😊
Very instructive video. My worries about suspension are off. That gt3 engine with ultimate road suspensions must be amazing
love the trainers. and they are a matching spec with the car!
Thank you, you are the best on suspension and ride feedback.
Love the kicks! Vegas was good to you!!!
Love the matching Spyder RS Nike clown shoes 👌🔥
I see what you did with the sneakers. Matchy matchy...great video😊
Perfect car for the summer 👌
Nice review Joe. No problem hearing you during the video at all. Shame that you had to deal with the rain but as you say “that’s GB”. I have always thought that the Spyders were beautiful cars, but I would never own one because of the roof. I would sacrifice power, looks to a degree, and prestige just to have the standard electric roof. And, that’s what I have.
GTS all the way if you live in UK!
Great review. The Spyder RS roof seems best left in the garage. That said, my idea of a nice drive is running my 2010 S in Rocky Mountain National Park to summit at 12,000ft in Nov while experiencing light precipitation. Given full heat with vents positioned properly, parka, hat and gloves it's far warmer than a motorcycle.
Nice explanation of the top removal.
One of these with an inconel exhaust and proper intake in the Med 👌🏻
Great to see title fixed :) No "Boxster" here :-) [yes yes, we all know it is a Boxster-model... but it's not called Boxster!]
Tnx for the video as always buddy!
First thing I came to think of was the roof and UK weather 😂
Not a car for the UK or nordic countries ...
I think the Boxster GTS 4.0 is the sweetspot. Different intake and exhaust on that and I think we have a winner 😎
Not driven the Spyder RS though....
Great video! For the range, just tick the 90L tank option and sorted out!
Convertible, GT3 Cup engine, pdk and drivetrain from 991.2 gt3rs and lighter than any 991/992 gt3(rs)! To me it is the best Porsche for road trips and occasional track day!
Love the video, fantastic car.
I just wish it wasn't a spider top but a normal sane top on there. The plastic fabric known as Race Tex looks horrible wet or even sweaty and absorbs sweat odors. A horrible fabric that also makes static charge in the winter and attracts dust, makes me shock when I get out of the car.
Then it would add unwanted weight?
That would defeat the purpose of this car
Missing the point much?
I love the top, and the more race-tex the better imo. I don't know if you sweat excessively or just stink like garbage, but I've never had any issues with any of the things you mentioned when it comes to race-tex. One of the big reasons I got Weissach was the race-tex dash.
Car detailing just before Christmas would make all that go away.
Amazing Joe ❤
I have once driven a 2010 Cayman S and love it since that drive. Amazing balance, amazing engine noise, amazing transmission noise, just loved it.
I would probably "need" either a Boxster GTS 4.0 with the upgraded shorter 2nd gear retrofit kit (manual, that is) or if getting the transmission redone is far too complicated then just go for the PDK and get roughly okay 2nd and 3rd ratio.
The induction noise festival and extra oumpfh of the RS must be amazing, but probably I would be blow away by the "pedestrian" GTS 4.0 already :-)
When you test the cars is that up by Cornbury on Oxfordshire ?
Great video as usual but I disagree on your preference of platforms and there's absolutely no excuse for Crocs.
Beautiful car beautiful review
Hi Mr Presidente!I really like your uploads!!!!!!!!!! sometimes when you make videos, you meet; Harry Metcalfe!??? Harry's Garage!?
I noticed that you are making videos on the same road section with Mr evo Magazine!☺️🤘😉
I just compared that corner in the intro to Harry's video's for this reason :-D
In Italy you can spec the 90 litre fuel tank for peanut money. Cheers!
Amazing 🔥
Cost is ludicrous, but that sound!. Great vid as usual Joe.
Seems too cheap to me…
My wife and I regularly exceed 125 mph and it rains like Britain here, so we opted for the coupe.
Additional safety as well.
We have the 718 Spyder, so it's not a hard choice.
Nice sneakers Joe 😎
So impressive that the Spyder RS weighs slightly less than the GT4 RS
What a beauty! We truly do now live in an age of wonders (yet not so much in the USA), all thanks to carbon fiber, titanium pistons, computer aided design and machining, with the century of experience of the wonder workers at Porsche.
What a beauty.
Awesome. But the fact that it costs way more than 991.2 gt3 is insane.
Why? Same engine, more fun to drive, a spyder, smaller and a rs
Super more fan than my 991.2 GT3 or 992 GT3
I'd have a used 911 Turbo S over this but I see the potential for this car if you already have a practical GT.
How so? The oldest worst parts on the car are from the 991.2 GT3 lmao. It's a more special car. Although 991.2 GT3 is great as well.
It’s mildly insane to compare the price of a brand new car to that of a used car that’s at least 5 years old.
decent video Joe as usual....but what about doing some vids on the 30-60k used cars most people can afford?
The video before this one was a £47k S3, last month I reviewed a Formentor. Lots more sub £50k cars coming soon....
@@JoeAchilles147k is still too expensive or I might have to abandon my family and start a new life in different country
@@recursion.you should absolutely go for it!
Don’t agree with the loud noise or rough ride of the 4RS. Idk why every journalist says that… they blow it wayyyy out of proportion. Lovely car the SRS is. Thanks for the vid. Did you redline it?
Cool car, stylish ride.
Those wheels are mega. Some motor!!!!
Having followed Joe for many years, the quality of the filming and narrative on these videos just gets better and better. Great work Joe.
Agreed ❤
Do you get the matching trainers with it ?
The spyder can option 90 L fuel Thank capacity. So no problem. Bravo Porsche 👍👍💪💪
Only in certain markets.
That thing with the roof would make me go nuts with all those manual steps involved
Saw a review of this on the Autobahn and loud AF. I still want one 😢
Shoe game on point
As always. Prolofic review. Im doing a bc fabs exhaust on mine because hearing is overrated😂
Got Ben’s finest on my 4.0 GTS. 😀
Wonderfull Car
Matching kicks 👌
Was that Harry going in the other direction?
How were the cup 2’s in the wet? I’ve heard they’re only really at their best in the dry when warm.
They're not bad in the wet, providing there isn't any standing water and the ambient temp is more than 7-8 degrees C.
I think you just need to use this car without a roof. Seems almost impossible to live with the roof as it is. Enjoyed the video and the one comment; 992 is better platform.
What’s your thoughts against your modified M2? Both on track and the road? Maybe not quite fair due to price comparison. Be interesting to see lap times at you local track. I’m guessing the Porsche will be quicker, but is it worth it bang for buck?
If your after bang for buck you could build a car for half the price that would anhialate his m2 🙄
Having to earn the privilege of being able to buy one is just a pure turn off.
It ensures their value in the future
I still think I could travel that route in my Astra ‘H’ diesel ‘touring’ at a similar pace and in more comfort 😂 would a drive out in something more exotic spoil my love for the Luton Load Lugger 👀
the view from behind at the start of the video, my initial thought was 'christ, he has shaved his head'
Removing the hood is certainly beneficial for your daily steps count, going from side to side of the car. But would still love one just for the sound.
With a 36 person team you could get the roof up/down in F1 pitstop times 1.8-2 sec mark.
This is a Sunday morning blast car in perfect conditions I wouldn’t want to use it for anything else especially a road trip.
Excellent video Joe. Very happy to see you. Excited to drive something.
Those Porsche guys know things.
Im for both of your Subscriber!☺️😉
Fabulous car but that roof situation is a fatal flaw for me.
I have a 50 year old Triumph Stag with the original soft top which takes half the time, and faff, of that Spyder.
Is the corner/hill combo at the start the same one Harry Metcalfe uses in his Harry’s Garage videos? 🤔
Yes, and JayEmm and No27. Getting bored with it myself!
@@neilturner6749 should be on a list, Nurburgring, N500, That Corner 😂
Imagine how nice the ride would be if it was speccd with the magnesium wheels and ceramic brakes. Would take 15 lbs. of unsprung mass off of each corner.
Lovely trainers joe😜 link??
But if its your own money and not a rented one or borrowed one for a few days, then you would go for the electric roof Boxster GTS, like I did. Love it.
The GTS is a great car for the money 🌞
@@JoeAchilles1bought my GTS after your Cayman 4.0 review, Joe. Had some nice cars in my life but this is awesome all-rounder.
If you can try the new C8 Z06 as a open top sports car, that would be a great comparison. Honestly i would pick up the Z06 over the GT3 or Spyder RS. Try it and let me know.
Well you’re comparing a new car with used cars. Personally, I’d doubt anyone who could afford a 992 GT3 (£175k) or Spyder RS (£200k+) is going to consider a Corvette other than as another toy in their collection, but not as an alternative.
The reg plate should read "my other vehicle is a pair of air Jordans in matching colours"
Driving it like it should be with the roof down in the rain 👊🏻 this would be my 5th car if I could afford it 😂
what a roof mechanism 🤦🏻♂️. I think the 997 targa method would work well here too. for me that is still the ultimate roof solution.
Coupe way to go.
Who got it first mate! You or Petrol Ped!! 🤣💙
Don't care about the roof. Just want the car. Full stop!
As an owner of both the 4RS and the 718 Spyder RS, I can say I really like the 718. That said, I wish they would have made the top electric! I know it's more weight...but it makes the usability so much higher. Overall, a great car. Glad you enjoyed it as well! Last of its kind for sure.
You’d lose the spyder humps and likely need some targa / mc20 motorized contraption.
Weight had nothing to do with the inclusion of this top. It’s the easier to explain excuse.
The only reason this car got green lit at all is that it has almost no development cost (over the 4RS).
@@hbullock IDK that I agree with the "weight had nothing to do with the inclusion of this top" comment. They put a sticker on RS models b/c it's weight savings over the actual metal crest. They are obsessed with weigh savings on every single one of their RS models. I'd say it certainly had something to do with it.
Using your rationale here, they could have just taken the top from the 718 Boxster.
There's a lot of changes here between the 4RS and the Spyder RS, so not sure I agree with your explanation.
@@mazer327 I’m not sure you read / comprehended my post. The taller intakes on the gt3 motor preclude the regular spyder top; it won’t fit . If a regular spyder top won’t fit, a regular boxster top definitely won’t. And a regular boxster top would retract where the spyder humps are, anyway, meaning you’d lose the humps…which makes a spyder a spyder. So you can’t fit a “better” top without a major redesign. Sure rs = lightweight, but the lightweightness of this top is a serendipitous fallout of the necessities imposed by the other limiting factors. If you’re not following…never mind. Have a nice day. :)
@@hbullock Nope, makes more sense what you're saying now. Fair points. Still wish it was an electric top! :)
@@mazer327 To your point, even if they COULD have fit a better (but heavier) top, would they have? Who knows. Maybe still anyway (for the weight savings alone). I have one arriving in July, and I’ve just accepted the top is what it is; the price of admission.
Happy Motoring :)
Why Spyder not spider?
Where do I know you from? You look very familiar … ever been to Belgium?
Nice! But I prefer a real roof so I own a Cayman, my second.
I think that the car you need for the summer drive. Unless you are living in the uk or the netherlands 😂
Did Joe really has his Crocs on i the last part???😂
Driving a convertible with top down in the rain..only in the UK 😂put the fricking roof up
In case you hadn't noticed, I was filming a video, roof up would have made it impossible light wise. Plus, I was still clearly enjoying it, as I'm sure you would in a Spyder RS.
To the reviewer: take 5 min to understand a process, if you stopped, in less than 1 minute you have the top bimini installed and you can drive with it in almost all rain condition, more like the rain in this video.
However this is not a daily car, is a weekend toy car, and not for the British weather ( never saw the sun when i was there lol).
Thank you
Why are you driving in the rain with the roof off? Most people take the 90 Liter gastank, you can drive than up to 700- 900 km 500 miles +
Good review, disagree about the 992 GT3.
Joe, I’m sure you’re absolutely killing it in life in general but your videos are superb. Attention to detail, passion and the filming is superb. I know nothing about filming and I always wonder how certain things are shot. I wish you nothing but the best and thank you for engaging with many people and working hard to provide wonderful videos. Needless to say, very jealous you’re able to drive these superb machines! This car looks a real corker. 😏
Thank you buddy, this is a lovely and refreshing comment to read and receive ❤️
@@JoeAchilles1 thank YOU for replying. Didn’t expect that. You’re brilliant, mate 🙂↔️☺️
Keep it in your house Joe?
Surprised at your comments on the suspension and comfort on UK roads. I have a 718 Spyder and it’s awful. Can’t wait to swop out the existing Cup 2s to Michelin pilot sports.
I understand from other reviewers that the Spyder RS is softer than the previous regular Spyder and closer to a GTS setup. Porsche is usually quite good at responding to customer feedback on its models so although I’ve not driven an RS to verify for myself, I think it might well be true…
There is no manual option, and that roof yikes! My manual perfectly speced 718 Spyder is the one for me. Awesome machine nonetheless...!
"sorry about the weather , its that time of year" you mean 80% of the whole year like that weather. :D :D xDDDDDDDDD
Porsche make the best cars
Like Rolex special customers this sales profiling will come back to bite them, Ive been offered two Rolex watches this week and declined them both two years ago I would have taken both, just like I got knocked back for one of these Porsche will struggle for customers in the not too distant future hopefully
I’ve exactly the same issue. Am an existing 2 x Rolex and 2 x newish Porsche owner (all 4 purchased brand new so I have a brand history) but can’t get another Rolex or any Porsche GT model because I still haven’t spent enough, frequently enough, with those brands.
On a equal power and equal suspension the Spyder will faster on the track too. This has been true since Van Overbeek the AMLS driver tested the first Cayman R against the first gen Boxster Spyder on a karting track. The Boxster Spyder was faster on every lap. Removing the weight on the top is a no brainer for a faster lap time.
p.s.
Why do the genius Porsche engineers insist on making the top on this car so needlessly complicated. A simple manual top that can raised and lowered from driver's seat with one hand. The Mazda Miata figured this out in 1989.