Portuguese Overview AoE2

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  • Analysis of the bonuses, unique unit, and tech tree of the Portuguese civilization from Age of Empires 2.
    0:47 Team bonus: Free cartography
    1:28 All units cost -15% gold
    1:35 Ships +10% HP
    3:43 Feitoria (video in more depth: • The Feitoria (2016 num... )
    5:00 Organ Gun analysis (video in more depth: • Organ Guns )
    6:40 Caravel analysis
    8:20 Carrack tech (+1/+1 armour)
    8:46 Arquebus (ballistics for gunpowder), and its effect on bombard tower, organ gun, hand cannoneer, bombard cannon, and cannon galleon.
    -TECH TREE-
    11:03 Archers: A-
    11:27 Infantry: B+
    11:50 Cavalry: C+
    12:10 Siege: B+
    12:36 Navy: B+ (early), A (late)
    13:12 Monks: B+
    13:40 Defences: A
    14:07 Economy: B+
    14:40 Concluding thoughts
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Komentáře • 543

  • @etherraichu
    @etherraichu Před 7 lety +1409

    its really silly when a civilization has gold shaft mining but not stone shaft mining. "Yeah, we have mastered removing gold from the depths of the earth. But rocks? The fevered dreams of a mad man!"

    • @rovsea-3761
      @rovsea-3761 Před 7 lety +165

      Explain the logic to me of Incas having fully upgraded galleons, then. :P

    • @khorps4756
      @khorps4756 Před 7 lety +61

      +Rovsea because inca were super advanced but the whities came and ruined/stole their stuff and framed them as savages

    • @khorps4756
      @khorps4756 Před 7 lety +86

      the inca had printing presses, carracks and hot air balloons and white man stole them

    • @miskakopperoinen8408
      @miskakopperoinen8408 Před 7 lety +96

      In case you forgot /sarcasm, all good.
      If not, I'd just like to remind that printing press was invented in Europe in 1440, carracks first appeared in Europe in 1300s and there's no historical source about man-carrying hot air balloons until 1783 in France
      Pizarro, the guy responsible for the demise of the Incas, arrived in Peru in 1531. Naturally anything before that can't possibly be stolen from Incas, and it seems unlikely that anybody would remember an obscure idea somebody had 350 years ago on another continent under conditions that wouldn't really support the preservation of information.

    • @khorps4756
      @khorps4756 Před 7 lety +108

      +Miska Kopperoinen yeah, it was sarcasm. although I can understand correcting me as there are REALLY stupid people in this world who would probably agree with what I said. I also don't like saying /s anymore because it gives the game away and sometimes I like to play the game longer

  • @caIigula
    @caIigula Před 5 lety +130

    I still think that the Feitoria nerf was to heavy
    Either reduce stone income OR make it cost stone.
    It's just that one nerf influences the other so hard, since the 250 gold are back in 9 minutes, but the stone take almost 20 min...

    • @Volcano4981
      @Volcano4981 Před 4 lety +13

      I'd definitely get the original 250 w 250 g cost at the current stone production rate as it would make them worth it but not OP

  • @MinecraftPlanetChan
    @MinecraftPlanetChan Před 7 lety +437

    portuguese team bonus is good if you wanna know whether or not you'll win the game
    nothing like checking on your team mate and seeing he has 20 villagers on berries with no mill

    • @carbon1255
      @carbon1255 Před 7 lety +56

      There's always a chance the other team has TWO berry pickers too.

    • @nofoxgiven6561
      @nofoxgiven6561 Před 6 lety +1

      On a serious note Portuguese with mongols are great for expansion

    • @ninjacom3
      @ninjacom3 Před 4 lety +12

      That's why I play diplo instead of team games. The inevitable betrayal of the berry picker is still always a surprise to him.

    • @SlayerRiley
      @SlayerRiley Před 3 lety +2

      @@ninjacom3 bro this comment had me chuckling, woe to the oblivious berry picker! :D

    • @user-cs9yu1qx3w
      @user-cs9yu1qx3w Před rokem

      aaa! MY PAIN!

  • @godshades
    @godshades Před 7 lety +66

    Few things I could point out that weren't mentioned in the video.
    1. Cartography is very good for free in nomad games
    2. I've noticed a lot that when going feudal agression, you don't build a market, only an archery range/stable and a blacksmith when enough wood. In these cases, specially when coordenating with others, it's a pretty good tech to have.
    3. It's also very good for fast castle knight rushes because, even if you're going fast castle, you're doing a stables instead of a market. Doing a knight rush in a pocket position with cartography allows you to quickly know where to send them if an ally needs help.

    • @rovsea-3761
      @rovsea-3761 Před 7 lety

      If you're going fast castle into knights you shouldn't have a market anyways, it's a lot of wood to basically throw down the drain.

    • @carbon1255
      @carbon1255 Před 7 lety +5

      That is what he said Rovsea.

  • @drearyplane8259
    @drearyplane8259 Před 7 lety +441

    Remember when the Vikings were so special as they were the only civilisation with two unique units?

    • @Tocaraca
      @Tocaraca Před 7 lety +20

      ;-;

    • @ayandas124
      @ayandas124 Před 6 lety +40

      How good are Koreans?

    • @Volcano4981
      @Volcano4981 Před 6 lety +106

      Remember when Goths were so special as they were the only civilisation with two Unique Technologies? :p

    • @jcpkill1175
      @jcpkill1175 Před 5 lety +8

      @@ayandas124 I think Koreans were an expansion

    • @Volcano4981
      @Volcano4981 Před 4 lety +12

      You both are - as a matter of fact, the Koreans were added in the Conquerors expansion.
      In AoK Unique Technologies did not exist at all in fact by the way. They have been in the game from AoC onwards.

  • @MrHarun-dv6ee
    @MrHarun-dv6ee Před 7 lety +224

    One of the greatest things about this channel and your subscribers is that we're all very active. you sometimes see channels with 3M subscribers pull only 70k+ views. but your videos pull 70k views while having 90k subscribers. we're just a very tight knit community; love it!

    • @victorkhan5960
      @victorkhan5960 Před 7 lety +27

      Mr. Harun we all live in nostalgia dammit xD
      Playing a 18 years old game ;)

    • @maarten452
      @maarten452 Před 7 lety

      he has 82k subs now :(

    • @UndercoverRacer1
      @UndercoverRacer1 Před 7 lety

      Probably some are getting automatically unsubscribed without their awareness

    • @1Korlash
      @1Korlash Před 6 lety +2

      up to 94K as of August 16, 2017

    • @Justin-dl7hb
      @Justin-dl7hb Před 6 lety +3

      Victor Khan I have never had nostalgia for aoe2 lol, I guess that's what happens when u play it activity for 12 years xd

  • @spooli7278
    @spooli7278 Před 7 lety +112

    The feitoria nerf feels so bad as someone that primarily plays Portuguese

    • @TheManofthecross
      @TheManofthecross Před 4 lety +7

      lets not forget the feitoria is suseptable to monk conversions aka monk raids so they can be converted.

    • @brotatochimp
      @brotatochimp Před 4 lety +8

      It's unfortunate they have these disadvantages because I like the look of the feitoria. I like the aesthetic and look of the Spanish and Portuguese civ.

  • @vegannegan9652
    @vegannegan9652 Před 7 lety +90

    I feel sorry for that water buffalo 13:01

    • @mathieuvernimmen7363
      @mathieuvernimmen7363 Před 7 lety +5

      Haha, that's hilarious.

    • @BW-CZ
      @BW-CZ Před 6 lety +3

      Excuse me, that is very sad!

    • @oORoOFLOo
      @oORoOFLOo Před 5 lety +1

      he was just passing :(

    • @pugno1145
      @pugno1145 Před 3 lety +1

      If you think you had a shitty day, look at that water buffalo

  • @Gwaeddwynn
    @Gwaeddwynn Před 7 lety +3

    very lovely to see more spirit of the law videos :)
    i played aoe2 (and 1) long ago and still very much like to watch videos about it... good work as always!

  • @americantemplar2860
    @americantemplar2860 Před 7 lety +1

    Great Civilization overview as always! Can't wait to see the next one!

  • @khankhomrad8855
    @khankhomrad8855 Před 7 lety +21

    A Civ overview in the day of my birthday. Feels Good man

  • @blastedbiggs3390
    @blastedbiggs3390 Před 7 lety +2

    I've been waiting for this! Awesome video!

  • @domeniconegro
    @domeniconegro Před 7 lety +13

    >Studying for the exam
    >Spirit uploads a video
    >Will view it tomorrow
    >Reads ''overview''
    Fuck it, the exam can wait

  • @derik4126
    @derik4126 Před 7 lety

    Great Job again! I really love your civ overviews and I can not wait for the next one!

  • @frikativos
    @frikativos Před 7 lety +15

    Free cartography at the beginning of a nomad map is really helpful.

  • @YukiColburn
    @YukiColburn Před 6 lety +9

    I don't have the HD Edition of AoE2, but you overlooked a detail. Feitorias could be overpowered in Naval battles. Your island's resources may dry out, and raiding the enemy land for resources is not viable, so those Feitorias will actually be saving your butt in those situations.

  • @EngPheniks
    @EngPheniks Před 3 lety +3

    I'm glad they designed a new architecture the Mediterranean type and applied it to the Portuguese, Spanish, Italians and Byzantines. previously the Spanish civilization was designed in the Northern European type and the Byzantines had the middle eastern type. all those were changed when the Definitive edition came up.

  • @ageofnumbersyt8557
    @ageofnumbersyt8557 Před 7 lety +2

    great work as always! keep it up!

  • @thomasmarbacher6539
    @thomasmarbacher6539 Před rokem +6

    This overview needs an update. mainly because of the new team bonus.

  • @JosephReference
    @JosephReference Před 7 lety

    wow you have improved on your videos, sounds a lot brighter. i like it.

  • @antoniomele4830
    @antoniomele4830 Před 7 lety +1

    Finally! So much time without a civ overview:):)

  • @hortoncat8240
    @hortoncat8240 Před 7 lety +6

    You forgot when explaining why the gold cost bonus is superior to the gold mining bonus, that the gold mining bonus only effects gold being mined, whereas the gold cost bonus will effect all gold, which includes gold from trade carts and relics. Which is especially nice with the Feitoria. ;)

  • @Axowobo
    @Axowobo Před 7 lety +168

    why do the portuguese get a c+ for their cavalry while the japanese have a b in the expansions? :D
    their cavalry costs less gold and has one more armor upgrade.
    still loving your videos :)

    • @SpiritOfTheLaw
      @SpiritOfTheLaw  Před 7 lety +93

      The big difference to me is the Japanese have a really good early game bonus. I figure Portuguese save maybe 1 gold miner worth of gold by 20 minutes if they go knights, and their scout rush has no help at all from any bonuses. Japanese save easily 200 wood in dark age, which means better scout rush and fast castle into knights than Portuguese. Maybe if you keep pumping out knights for 5 minutes the Portuguese bonus catches up, and in the long run they save more gold, but Japanese in the expansions are a solid cavalry civ until imperial age.

    • @tigerd7528
      @tigerd7528 Před 7 lety +18

      That is a great point. The last armor upgrade is huge. If your cavaliers only get 4 pierce armor, they die extremely quickly to arrows. But with 6 pierce armor, they take 1 damage from skirms rather than 3, and are much better at raiding.

    • @tigerd7528
      @tigerd7528 Před 7 lety +30

      But the Japanese lack the crucial plus 4 upgrade. The plus 4 cavalier early imperial age power spike can be outright game deciding, at all skill levels. Having 6 pierce armor means your knights are immune to castle age 7 attack xbows, as well as TC fire. having only 4 pierce armor means you take three times the damage from enemy arrows.
      Personally I would've given the Portuguese a higher score just for the plus 4 armor, but their knights also cost less gold. I think it's hard to justify not giving Portuguese a higher score in cavalry than the Japanese.
      Sure, Japanese have a better scout rush, but knights in my opinion are a much more impactful unit than scouts.

    • @genericpersonx333
      @genericpersonx333 Před 7 lety +6

      I suspect it is mostly because the Japanese have fully-upgradeable horse archers. Also, unlike with the Portuguese who have superior bombard cannons to counter siege in the Imperial Age, the Japanese really have to rely on cavaliers to keep those pesky onagers under control because they don't have siege onagers or bombard cannons themselves. In other words, the inferior Japanese cavalry are more useful to the Japanese than the inferior Portuguese cavalry is to the Portuguese in the late game.

    • @tigerd7528
      @tigerd7528 Před 7 lety +6

      Eustace Stritchers Usefulness to a particular civ doesn't add strength to a unit type. Cavalry archer also counts towards archery range.

  • @federicoboge
    @federicoboge Před 7 lety +5

    2:27 Full blown out battle? Boar doesn't give a fuck. Boar just wants to eat his grass.

  • @wyrn_slater
    @wyrn_slater Před 7 lety +1

    Spirit upload= Instant happiness 😄

  • @milksmemoirs
    @milksmemoirs Před 7 lety +1

    More gameplay videos please! You're amazing!

  • @platomaker
    @platomaker Před 7 lety +12

    14:16 "not having stone shaft mining"
    displays stone shaft mining without an red X.

  • @lolguy00
    @lolguy00 Před 7 lety +1

    i was doing research, after i saw this from my gmail, i dropped everything to watch this!

  • @nekoblue77
    @nekoblue77 Před 6 lety +7

    0:06 Wow.. Probably my favorite civ theme, closely followed by Magyars.

  • @rohnan9260
    @rohnan9260 Před 7 lety +1

    The background music is so chill.

  • @TheGrammargestapo1
    @TheGrammargestapo1 Před 7 lety

    I have never played an age of empires game in my life but I love your channel

  • @zipar3132
    @zipar3132 Před 7 lety

    Oh hell yes a SotL video for the day. Thank you

  • @xxiao5156
    @xxiao5156 Před 7 lety +1

    The Caravel up top at 8:12 is the flagship of Francisco de Almeida, whom you pointed out at 5:13 in your Portuguese campaign video.

  • @rogeriocardoso8258
    @rogeriocardoso8258 Před 7 lety

    I was waiting for this overview for so long. Thanks, man. The only thing I don't agree is the rate you gave to the portuguese cavalry (C+); I would give them a B- at least since it sounded pretty standard to me (below Franks and above Vikings, for example).

  • @TheHadesShade
    @TheHadesShade Před 7 lety

    The free cartography team bonus can be really useful on Nomad map.
    Helps you track your mates, helps preventing you to set up shop to far away from them and helps scouting out the enemy sooner.

  • @tomilehto8573
    @tomilehto8573 Před 7 lety +9

    +Spirit Of The Law can you make a chart where you can see overview about all civs grades? it would be great

  • @TomsLife9
    @TomsLife9 Před 4 lety +2

    I think a cool additional bonus would be added line of sight on all units and buildings as homage to the Portugese being some of the best explorers! But I suppose Cartography accomplishes this somewhat

  • @samuelnlimon
    @samuelnlimon Před 7 lety +3

    I've found the organ gun to be really effective against ships from the shore. Because of the spray damage.

  • @roachtheable
    @roachtheable Před 6 lety

    great overview! thanks! could you do a video covering how the market is influenced with other people buying/selling. overall market strat

  • @AntonioZL
    @AntonioZL Před 7 lety +68

    As a brazilian, I like the portuguese because they're sort of like Brazil in AoE 2 (but not).

    • @ThrE3-GeS
      @ThrE3-GeS Před 4 lety +6

      Antônio Gabriel Zeni Landim that's why i support brazil in the world cup. Because your like Portugal but not ;)

    • @parjai97
      @parjai97 Před 4 lety +3

      @@ThrE3-GeS that's why i support Portugal because it's like Galicia, but not

    • @allaincumming6313
      @allaincumming6313 Před 4 lety +4

      Mexicans have Mayas and Aztecs, which are actually mexicans, and also have Spanish since mexicans are sort of like hispanics, but not xD.

  • @koishikomeiji400
    @koishikomeiji400 Před 7 lety +79

    t. Alberto Barbosa

  • @brandonciciotti4944
    @brandonciciotti4944 Před 7 lety +10

    "Carry on lads, I'll just watch from here." LOL

  • @farloux
    @farloux Před 7 lety +6

    0:39 "Goth game plan" hilarious.

  • @eccentrichorse11
    @eccentrichorse11 Před 5 lety +1

    You should have mentioned that the team bonus is useful for early scouting since it is like having extra scout in the dark age which means you can quickly find oppenents since if any one else on your team finds them then you find them too. You can also co-ordinate and each player can scout different parts of the map to avoid overlap. You can also completely neglect scouting and have your scout lure deer while your allies do the scouting for you. But of course if everyone does that it could lead to a problem.
    P.S Loved the 1:04 joke.

  • @qtunicorn2123
    @qtunicorn2123 Před 7 lety

    You're back!!

  • @matheusrios4223
    @matheusrios4223 Před 4 lety +3

    the portuguese (and spanish before their addition, in the og AoK and AoC) is the closest I can get in AoE2 of my civ to play, since I'm brazilian. so you can say I'm happy with this overview and I wish DE made organ guns spread shots do more damage and arquebus also giving gunpowder units faster attack rates/shots (like the cannon galleon of the spanish qwq). and Feitoria being more op too because 20 pop is too much lol

  • @TomHenksYT
    @TomHenksYT Před 7 lety

    Hi Spirit, I'm a big fan of your videos. Could you do a civ overview of the Burmese next? I'm really liking this civ and I'd love to know what you think of them.

  • @jefffinkbonner9551
    @jefffinkbonner9551 Před 2 lety +1

    Just happened to be checking back in here a few years later...
    2:14 "Of course the Turks get the last laugh since they were changed to +20% in the expansions."
    (Laughs in Portuguese also getting their bonus buffed to 20% gold cost reduction)
    And 30% faster techs.
    Turks did get +1 pierce armor on scout line too tho :D

  • @joesmith9974
    @joesmith9974 Před 7 lety +3

    I think you underplayed how useful free carto is. obviously it is completely useless in 1v1s, but in team games, especially 2v2s or in other game modes where feudal aggression is prevalent and resources have to be prioritized in favor of military, the 175 wood for a market is a waste unless your eco is unbalanced and you have to build one to sell resources anyways. for 5 more wood you could get 3 farms and advance to castle faster, or for the same price you could build another archery range etc. It is also useful for coordinating attacks since x'ing the map like a madman only works so well. it encourages better teamwork such as one person bringing over archers to help kill spears so his ally can use his scouts to raid the enemy. you can also use your scouts more efficiently since you wont both scout the same areas twice unnecessarily. I would even argue this is one of the strongest team bonuses in team games.

  • @ewanplatt8081
    @ewanplatt8081 Před 7 lety

    Finnaly! Nice, can ye do all the new civs?

  • @MijnAfspeellijst1234
    @MijnAfspeellijst1234 Před 7 lety +4

    He spirit you ever tried Europa Universalis 4?
    It is really in depth game and I would love to see your analyse on that game.
    It's a really different game from Age of Empire I know, so you probably never going to cover it.
    But I still want your opinion on it ^^.
    Keep up the great videos :)

  • @L4Vo5
    @L4Vo5 Před 7 lety +1

    cant watch rn but gonna like already

  • @harooooo1
    @harooooo1 Před 7 lety +1

    Imho the gather rate increase is a much better bonus than the discount in early stages of the game, where you can put 1-3 less villagers on gold which can work on other places, while for lategame i agree that the discount is better since it lets u put more gold units to the field.

    • @rovsea-3761
      @rovsea-3761 Před 7 lety +2

      I was somewhat disappointed that Spirit didn't point out that the gather bonus is useless when you're relying on trade, while the cost discount just becomes even more important then.

  • @virgileusa
    @virgileusa Před 5 lety +7

    Japanese has the same unit available but without last armor upgrade and they got a B while portuguese with +2 armor and a gold cost reduction for knights get a C+ ?
    Edit : I made a test, one cavalier vs 12 split skirmishers, the japanese one killed 2, the portuguese one killed ...10

  • @SentimentalNegativity
    @SentimentalNegativity Před 7 lety +6

    wish we had Chariots/Scythe Chariots in AoE2 like we did in AoE1 :(
    only reason I built markets in Aoe1 anyway lel. Gotta have that wheel research!

    • @TheGloriousLobsterEmperor
      @TheGloriousLobsterEmperor Před 7 lety +2

      Ohhh man, necroing comment threads. But anyway;
      Chariots really wouldn't make sense in AoE2. By even the first century, chariots had lost most of their military power. They were less maneuverable and it was better to just put a dude on a horse instead of a chariot. By the time AoE 2 takes place, chariots were barely ever used at all.
      Still, they were cool in AoE 1. I always will have fond memories of them.

  • @Sotyx1
    @Sotyx1 Před 6 lety

    Carry on lads, I'll just watch from here

  • @tiveqcriarcontanova
    @tiveqcriarcontanova Před 5 lety +27

    I think the dev didn't do the portuguese civ any justice. They nerfed them completely.
    Feitoria is not at good anymore
    Organ gun not as good anymore
    Arquebus not as good anymore

  • @kvatchyobiv8540
    @kvatchyobiv8540 Před 3 lety

    true saracen and other specific naval unit may have a bonus on a certain type of war ship in this case galley but the portuguese naval econ bonus also aplies to ships that counters war galeys etc...
    just depends on the strategy in mind

  • @AlexLee-hj2ey
    @AlexLee-hj2ey Před 7 lety

    we love u spirit!

  • @Nicholas-xz7ol
    @Nicholas-xz7ol Před 7 lety

    Hey Spirit, are you by chance doing a video similar to your video on scorpions, but instead with bombard cannons? I think it'd be interesting to compare/contrast some of the bonuses towards them and see which civ's bombard cannons are the best at what (notice how I post this comment on a civ with a cool bombard cannon tech) Let me know! Thanks for all the great content :)

  • @Regunes
    @Regunes Před 5 lety

    Their wonder looks nice

  • @tiveqcriarcontanova
    @tiveqcriarcontanova Před 4 lety +13

    Every time I come back to this video I'm astounded at how massively they nerfed this civ.
    Organ guns - 1 damage for all projectiles but the main one.
    Feitoria - was already not that great and they made it awful!
    Arquebus - why reduce the speed of cannons? What's the argument here? By the same logic remove the insane speed from spanish cannon galleons!!
    That coupled with terrible team bonus, caravels being very situational, and you've got probably the most underwhelming civ in the game. They went from OP to UP. These devs didn't manage to find a balance and ended up fucking it up. It really does piss me off.

  • @Chucho123450
    @Chucho123450 Před 7 lety

    omgsh my day is made

  • @noemhemeenfag8455
    @noemhemeenfag8455 Před 7 lety +1

    I love you man

  • @derrick8891
    @derrick8891 Před 7 lety

    Another beautiful and brilliant video. Just sayin

  • @wayrof
    @wayrof Před 7 lety

    That joke on the baloon cracked me up (and it's so true!) XD

  • @danraies
    @danraies Před 7 lety +2

    Suppose I shoot a generic cannon galleon at max range while a wonder timer is counting down. Does the balloon stay in the air for an entire year?

  • @Chenla
    @Chenla Před 7 lety +30

    3:30 - Irrelevant, Vikings dont have Fire Galleys, so they are screwed, unless you are TOP micro player.
    5:08 - After Portuguese Unique Tech nerf, Organ Guns became much weaker, maybe +2 pierce armor or increased movement speed could help, as I suggested.
    8:10 - Problem is, you never go full Caravel, they are really useless against Fire Ships, you only mix few in if you have the resources for it. Or just go pure Caravel + Fire Ship and never build a single Galeon (you still need its upgrade for Fire though).
    10:38 - Indian Hand Cannoneers beat Portuguese, that +1 range is really a difference.
    10:50 - I remember I sent you, that Cannon Galeon is not affected and you confirmed it that time, glad they fixed it :-).
    Thanks for the Overview, waited for it for a long time ;-).

    • @bullholder
      @bullholder Před 7 lety +9

      I agree on everything except Indian Hand Cannoneers. The extra range is a big negative actually - they get more inaccurate the further away they are from the unit they attack. Whereas portuguese hc get ballistics so are much more accurate at all ranges.

    • @Chenla
      @Chenla Před 7 lety +4

      Yeah, but not this time.
      HC are so slow that even their bad accuracy will hit some of them, clumped especially.
      So by the time Portuguese will reach the range to fire, their dmg is already reduced.
      Turks HC are the only one, who beat the Indian ones.
      (At least Indians have something, for compensate their useless 'unique' castle unit).

    • @misteral9045
      @misteral9045 Před 7 lety +5

      I think it depends on the use of micro and the size of the battle. In small groups with micro (~10-20 units) Portuguese will always win since the opponents micro is nullified (HC vs HC). Very similar to getting ballistics for crossbows in castle age. In large battles with multiple kinds of units where micro is not practical, I think we can consider arquebus to indirectly make Portuguese HCs more effective, since they will hit more of their shots. However, here is where there is no objective argument as to what is better. Turks hp? Indian range? Spanish fire rate? Personally, I would go with Indians range, since it makes the HC more flexible, but there are strong arguments for each side.

    • @zhewaxen3047
      @zhewaxen3047 Před 7 lety +4

      The vikings can go fast castle to get longboats and outproduce most civilizations, so lack of fire galleys doesn't matter a lot.

    • @samrodrigues3199
      @samrodrigues3199 Před 7 lety

      Yeah, Organ Guns are awful imo. When they serve for me as a Hand Cannoneer which costs more resources, I can't garrison or heal and only real advantage is when I'd face off against archer units (Which I'd counter with skirms or Bombard Cannons) I don't see how they fit in.
      Man, I wish I had been able to play them pre-Arquebus nerf. They looked absolutely amazing.

  • @JRhodesZA
    @JRhodesZA Před 7 lety

    Dude I've never played AoE but i fucking LOVE these videos for some reason lmao.

  • @kumo4956
    @kumo4956 Před 7 lety

    thank you

  • @MrAllmightyCornholioz
    @MrAllmightyCornholioz Před 7 lety +21

    Os portugueses são impressionantes.

  • @KaiserFranzGaming
    @KaiserFranzGaming Před 7 lety

    :O new video

  • @GamingCoreVideos
    @GamingCoreVideos Před 7 lety

    I swear i was watching your channel just now

  • @michaelpothoven1041
    @michaelpothoven1041 Před 7 lety +1

    So, what I learned here is that Portuguese were OP in their initial release (AoAK), but have been nerfed so badly that they're practically useless except in an Imperial Age gunpowder fight.

  • @dombck5278
    @dombck5278 Před 3 měsíci +4

    Might it be time for a new Portuguese overview, or is this still fully accurate?

  • @vultoneo
    @vultoneo Před 7 lety +1

    I got a nice question for your next FAQ or maybe even a video if it leads to interesting results: "How to team bonuses work in a ffa diplomacy game?"

  • @7ishke
    @7ishke Před 7 lety

    .finally!! I've been waiting for this since the African Kingdom release

  • @gravity8120
    @gravity8120 Před 2 lety +1

    9:31 Don't you hate it when cannonballs fall through the surface of the Earth yet still hit you?
    10:56 *Turtle Ship:* "Here I think you dropped this." _Spits out cannonball_

  • @Zayralover
    @Zayralover Před 7 lety

    Hey Spirit. Could you do a video doing your review of the African Civs? So far, you've only done the Portuguese. Specifically, I'm interested in the Ethipoeans (their siege might be extremely good with their unique tech)

  • @ThrE3-GeS
    @ThrE3-GeS Před 4 lety +1

    Portuguese ships have more hp because the only ships that ever returned, from the "spanish" armada that filippe send out to england, where in fact portuguese, like the flaggship São Martinho. And since then everybody knew, portuguese build the best ships. And where the first to shoot bronze canons that where loaded from the back. Maybe that's where they got the idea for the unique canory unit.

  • @khashayarhashemi9233
    @khashayarhashemi9233 Před 7 lety +1

    You are such an underrated CZcamsr. Man how much effort you put in your videos is unbelievable with that much of details, for example the mathematical logic of AOE. I can't even describe this feeling which I have every time you upload a new video. Stay so as you already are, you technically revived AOE and it's community. That's all Real Talk. Greetings from Germany, from a Persian AOE gamer. ✌🏽

  • @andrewcooper7256
    @andrewcooper7256 Před 7 lety +2

    Hey Spirit!, do you think one feitoria on a 300 pop, 2 on 400, and 4 on 500 would be a good investment on a standard map with trade and the rest being villagers for a steady income of stone to potentially beef up defenses and ramp up organ gun production?

    • @WiscoDrinks
      @WiscoDrinks Před 6 lety +1

      i recently played a 400pop cap game with the map completely deforested (and all stone mined) in late game.. the feitoria was clutch.

  • @lukasg4807
    @lukasg4807 Před 7 lety +54

    What is it that causes cannonballs to bounce?

    • @SpiritOfTheLaw
      @SpiritOfTheLaw  Před 7 lety +26

      Not sure. I artificially increased those towers' range, so it's probably related to that.

    • @clonator5097
      @clonator5097 Před 7 lety +11

      Spirit Of The Law that happens even with normal range. Also, sometimes when the units get too far the balls explode mid-air.

    • @kemosonicfan123lbp
      @kemosonicfan123lbp Před 7 lety +1

      Miguel Alberola Cano 50% more range doesnt affect 0 range, although it would be a big buff to ranged units

    • @subotaur5019
      @subotaur5019 Před 7 lety +23

      Because they are actually balloons.

    • @Wtf_is_this_handle_thing_YT
      @Wtf_is_this_handle_thing_YT Před 7 lety +1

      Miguel Alberola Cano why are we not funding this.jpeg

  • @kshitijmohan7498
    @kshitijmohan7498 Před 7 lety

    god bless spirit for doing these.
    on a side note, can we have ethopians next?

  • @RimaNari
    @RimaNari Před 7 lety +2

    I hate you Spirit. Now I want to buy the steam version of the game :-/
    jk Amazingly intelligent and well-presented overview, as always.

  • @PhoenixAlaris93
    @PhoenixAlaris93 Před 7 lety +4

    Called it. Although considering all the recent uploads i think most people called it

  • @hbarudi
    @hbarudi Před 7 lety +1

    Once they complete bugfixes (check the comments on steam), I do wish for each civilization to get a unique economic building (except Portuguese they have feitoria as their unique economic building) and also a unique military building. The unique ecomomic building there are many ideas including a civilization to get a camp that drops off all 4 resources and unique military building such as the fire tower. The villager buildings and military buildings button has 1 spot available for economic buildings and portuguese get the feitoria there after the wonder, and also the military buildings have an empty spot after the siege workshop. Then an idea to make fishing ship become "villager of the sea" the way it was in the very early stages of the game in age of kings 1998. The fishing ship needs to be able to build fish trap, dock, sea wall, sea tower, and be able to repair anything it can reach. Currently fish traps are not repairable in any way, but are healable by monks I tried that and it worked.

    • @sedivh0
      @sedivh0 Před 7 lety +1

      hbarudi since we're at it, why not give ships wheels so they can be used on land and allow you to garrison archers on ships for additional attack? Yeah, let's make civilizations not unique anymore and make them all the same so when you get bored of playing one, you'll get bored of all of them.

  • @rupurrtpurrcy7502
    @rupurrtpurrcy7502 Před 5 lety +2

    Other Civilisations: the resources on the whole map have been run out, we r fucked.
    Portuguese: what did u said just now?

  • @Sith90lord
    @Sith90lord Před 7 lety

    Man... it would be so awesome if you'd do AOM videos too ^_^

  • @Lukas_6_ayat_12
    @Lukas_6_ayat_12 Před 7 lety +4

    Hai Spirit Of The Law, I'm from Indonesia, I love your video on AOE2 analysis, if I may make an analysis of the rise of the new Civ rajasthank you

  • @rogeriocardoso8258
    @rogeriocardoso8258 Před 6 lety +9

    The only thing I didn't like in the Portuguese was the lack of an eco early age bonus. It seems we're always behind the opponents in early feudal age. Despite this, they have a strong and variable army and I, nevertheless, feel glad to play as my Portuguese ancestors.

    • @Agent1W
      @Agent1W Před rokem +1

      They like to take sestas before the serious action?

  • @TheKingWerwer
    @TheKingWerwer Před 7 lety

    Could you make a video about hotkeys? Which ones to use, what setup you recommend and use yourself? I think using hotkeys would really speed up the game for me.

  • @ImInLoveWithBulla
    @ImInLoveWithBulla Před 5 lety

    That deer at 6:41 just doesn’t give a flying fart.

  • @heldervale8885
    @heldervale8885 Před 7 lety

    Finnally!!

  • @nimda3349
    @nimda3349 Před 6 lety

    The cannonball being a balloon always gets me

  • @socom9000
    @socom9000 Před 6 lety

    Hey, been watching a lot of your vids for a long time now and love most of them if not all. I think I should comment more to get more talking going but I'm gonna try on this one lol. What do you think of the building if being raided or rushed and lose a lot of vils. In a team game it's more relevant in the case of starting a new town with little to no bills can get the buildings up fast and get resources in till you get bills and destroy them. Abit of a sacrifice but from experience it helped me not die and get back helping our team to a win. Although when I ran away I just massed resources and sent all to teammates but a good topic for more out of the box gameplay I guess.

    • @socom9000
      @socom9000 Před 6 lety

      Don't mind my spelling or grammar please or my spellcheck falls lol

  • @Ardith_Prime
    @Ardith_Prime Před 7 lety +2

    i think the Feit is best for players who don't want to micromanage their economy.
    Also you only mention stone, but on island maps ot desert types, it's also useful for wood too. If you're being denied the abiltiy to go outside your base to gather resources, it seems like a solid investment

    • @shadowsniper3461
      @shadowsniper3461 Před 7 lety +1

      Ardith Prime It's also great for private games with you friends. If you can convince your friends to put on a treaty on any map with a 500 pop cap you can boom very quickly in imperial without the need of multiple town centres. After that you can mass walls and organ guns and you become pretty god like to anyone who tries to attack, no matter how good their army composition. Doesn't really work online as people put a lower pop cap and will harass you early

  • @wertpert
    @wertpert Před 7 lety +2

    I feel that galley comparisons are kind of out of date, especially in the feudal age. Does anyone really prefer the galley to the fire gallay in feudal?

  • @dartaz2351
    @dartaz2351 Před 5 lety +1

    Im portuguese and aoe rlly represented portugal well. A navy country. For who is curious, check portugal's history. We fought off the spanish. We dominated enemys. And we were probably the begginers of the exploration by sea, and made one of the best historical books ever. And thats that. I am proud to be portuguese!

  • @ruelerboy
    @ruelerboy Před 7 lety

    Would love to see the Ethiopians next with their 15% percent faster firing and many people underestimating their eco boost plus the shotel warrior with its big ass attack