Top quality bodge job, posts should be concreted in place, joists too small, no weed suppressant, screw the joists and hangers, use the composite clips to hide the board fixings and that screw wand tool just tops it off! Excellent illustration of how not to install a deck.
I'm afraid this looks like a "handyman-quality" deck job, but maybe there were homeowner budget limitations. Nice video and building instructions though.
Do I really need the posts if my backyard is hard and clay? I am thinking to make a deck the same level as the lown and excavate to set the frame in the clay. My deck will be 12x10’
The framing will rot soon from the ground up and from the top down! No joist tape on top of framing and supporting posts are touching the soil. Not up to code.
So I didn’t see u put any weed barrier down. The grass and elements were all there and the deck pretty much sat on the ground nice job but 🤔😬I’d like to c that same deck in 2 yrs🤷🏾♀️🤷🏾♀️
I.R.C. (International Residential Code) states a ground level (30" above grade or lower) "floating" (not attached to house or other existing structure) deck does not require a permit. People can pretty much slap together what they want.....as is the case in this half-ass job.
A really nice feature of the 2x4 framing is that's as close to the ground as you can get. Less tripping or falling risk than anything besides a slab on grade. That Weardeck is pretty sweet needing support only 24" OC. Bout the biggest change I'd make is get a lighter color as composite decking gets pretty hot in the sun, in my limited experience.
I’ve been looking for a video to follow to build my own ground level deck and this is one of the more DIY-able ones I’ve seen. Question though, in most videos I’ve seen, the posts are usually reinforced with concrete. Any reason why that wasn’t done here? Is it dependent on the soil in a particular area? Thanks
Most times the code only calls for you to post hole to hard ground then add two inches and sledge it down to the joist. However if the soil is too soft we sometimes pour a four inch concrete footer with quick crete and then put the post in.
He is also in Tampa where they don't need to worry about frost. Those 4x4s would get pushed right out of the ground in the first cold winter up North. If you live above the mason dixon line I would recommend looking up your local deck building codes for deck footers. I live in Maryland and we need to put a 18" diameter 36-48" deep concrete footer in so that it is below the frost line and won't be pushed or pulled out of place by frozen ground. In MD our frost line is at 30" hence why the code is 36" deep min but 48" preferred.
This deck will be stick on the ground after couple of rain,it will be not level after rain,absolutely you must be do drainage for rain,you must be put some think for post,if u don’t want to use cement,just buy 10”x10” cement cylinder ready cement post holder,it’s 5,99 at the Lowe’s If u put 12 peace f this ready cement box,doesn’t need a permits for this deck and will be strong,and he made a deck wth 2x4 it’s ok But these joists must be pressured wood and u must be put black tape on the joists,the guy didn’t showed from top to down on the video because all joists will be shown under boards white wood,because he didn’t put any tape,if u r doing ur own deck just make sure you dig the hole press the soil and add gravel(which is a bag $4,99 covers 3 holes) then pressed again then put the ready cement blocks Put black tape on the joists( it may little expensive,just water proof paint or asphalt coat will be cheaper)and don’t do screw on the composite deck boards,there are hidden screws for$111 ,and don’t do like this guy did 20’ boards because over then 16’boards are special order,which mean is more more expensive....
Thanks for your reply Ryan. You don’t live in Florida do you? Do you know what the code is sir? Just curious. You do know it differs in all areas right!
Hi see admiration in some of my work and yet there is still some jealousy that I sense as well. My mother always said if you can’t say something nice, don’t say anything at all.
@@fritzybrothers Why did you use 2x4 instead of 2x6? For the amount of time and effort put into pounding all those posts into the ground it would have been a better use of your time and money to just buy the proper sized lumber for building a frame no? Also where did you come up with 3screws = 5nails? Nails were the right choice, but screws hold a linear load and nails hold a shear load, they are not interchangeable in any meaningful way that ive ever seen. And just as an aside, Florida is about the 40th state ranked for Construction Workers throughout US. Manufacturing rankings for employees correlate almost 1:1 with product quality. So before falling back on 'code' which is about as gerrymandered as the voting districts in florida (just a joke keep your panties on lol) is the same as sayings "Well its good enough".
You should have gone bigger and 1 additional foot further away from the wall. I would prefer 20' x 35', if you have the space available in the backyard, even though it a bit more costly.
Measure 3 feet from the outside of the corner and mark the outside of the board and then Mark 4 feet on the other side of the corner from outside of the corner to the outside of the board and then it should be 5 feet from the 3 foot mark in the 4 foot mark. Move the framing accordingly
It looks nice but those guys at Designer Decks worked twice as hard because they used the wrong wood for that length deck! That’s why they had to use loads of 4x4 to make it stable. They should have made a smaller deck if they were using 2x4’s or used 2x6’s if they wanted a deck that long. They made a crappy foundation and sugar coated it with nice top boards ……. Shame on you!!!! Poor guy thinks he have a deck that’s going to last for years but I guarantee in will have trouble within a couple of years! Again shame on you and your Janky company!!!
He is not amazing its just really easy to make a deck like that but you get into different levels and stairs then I call in a guy like him. Still nice job.
in Canada, they are $16 each, so about $500 vs $30. This is a poorman's deck that will last 5 to 10 years in Florida because the soil is sandy and drains decently. If he coated the bottom of the supports with some waterproofing, he could easily get that to 15 years or more.
Absolutely. Even tantalised wood would rot laid straight on the ground, they could have dug under to clear an inch gap under the joists.. Nothing to stop grass/weeds growing either. The composite might last 25 years but they would lose the subframe within 10 years.
What if they used the mulching paper to fist cover the ground they worked on? Then apply moisture sealant onto the wood, do you Think they could get possibly at least a solid 30 years out of the deck? If so then the project served its purpose and more.
@@meanwright5195 absolutely not, water and humidity will destroy that almost as fast, probably much faster once it started retaining moisture. Don't build stuff right on the ground.
Wannabe lumber soldiers are losing their minds. Gentlemen, it’s 6”s off the ground. Take a chillaxative and sip of whiskey. I know 6”s may be huge for some of you. It’s not. No permit needed.
No weed mat, wtf, enjoy the grass and weeds coming up between the boards. That’s if the smashed up wooden posts don’t end up rotting first. Even a DIY guy wouldn’t do such a amateur job. Shame on you for ripping the homeowner off.
Its not whiney - its just warning other folks that this is NOT the way to build frames for decking of any type - it will rot in a few years. and weeds/grass will grow up between the deck pieces.
Top quality bodge job, posts should be concreted in place, joists too small, no weed suppressant, screw the joists and hangers, use the composite clips to hide the board fixings and that screw wand tool just tops it off! Excellent illustration of how not to install a deck.
Also with composite joists should be a maximum of 16" OC...All this weight is gonna cave those 4x4s asap
This might as well have been a Monty Python skit.
I don't know ish from shinola, but I agree with everything you said! 😂😂
Love seeing practical applications of Pythagorean Theorem.
Love the stand up screw gun, NICE!
Would've been better if concrete blocks, 2x6s, and deck screws were used to build this. Would be prettier too if picture framing was applied.
Good work and simple instructions. I think even I could build it. 😀😀 Thanks Steve!
Awesome job man!!!!
I'm afraid this looks like a "handyman-quality" deck job, but maybe there were homeowner budget limitations. Nice video and building instructions though.
Do I really need the posts if my backyard is hard and clay? I am thinking to make a deck the same level as the lown and excavate to set the frame in the clay. My deck will be 12x10’
i was wondering if you needed cement for the footings but seem like you just pushed them into the ground. I have hard clay it wouldn't work for me.
That's a bad ass drill !
Thank you for the Deck building Video. Why not add Joist Butyl tape on top of the joist to prevent from rot?
The framing will rot soon from the ground up and from the top down! No joist tape on top of framing and supporting posts are touching the soil. Not up to code.
So I didn’t see u put any weed barrier down. The grass and elements were all there and the deck pretty much sat on the ground nice job but 🤔😬I’d like to c that same deck in 2 yrs🤷🏾♀️🤷🏾♀️
Complete bodge job
did you use any concrete ?
Wondering if the local code enforcer does inspections of decks to make sure they were built according to code.
I.R.C. (International Residential Code) states a ground level (30" above grade or lower) "floating" (not attached to house or other existing structure) deck does not require a permit. People can pretty much slap together what they want.....as is the case in this half-ass job.
A really nice feature of the 2x4 framing is that's as close to the ground as you can get.
Less tripping or falling risk than anything besides a slab on grade.
That Weardeck is pretty sweet needing support only 24" OC.
Bout the biggest change I'd make is get a lighter color as composite decking gets pretty hot in the sun, in my limited experience.
Why a 2x4 frame? Seems undersized. Thanks.
No cement , will that last and up to code
Great looking deck.
I’ve been looking for a video to follow to build my own ground level deck and this is one of the more DIY-able ones I’ve seen. Question though, in most videos I’ve seen, the posts are usually reinforced with concrete. Any reason why that wasn’t done here? Is it dependent on the soil in a particular area? Thanks
Most times the code only calls for you to post hole to hard ground then add two inches and sledge it down to the joist. However if the soil is too soft we sometimes pour a four inch concrete footer with quick crete and then put the post in.
He is also in Tampa where they don't need to worry about frost. Those 4x4s would get pushed right out of the ground in the first cold winter up North. If you live above the mason dixon line I would recommend looking up your local deck building codes for deck footers. I live in Maryland and we need to put a 18" diameter 36-48" deep concrete footer in so that it is below the frost line and won't be pushed or pulled out of place by frozen ground. In MD our frost line is at 30" hence why the code is 36" deep min but 48" preferred.
@@leonitasmaximus4004 I was gonna say. I'm up in nj where the frost line is a little deeper than 4 inches. I think it's 8 inches. 😉
@@frankmmiii lol It might be 8+8+8+8+8+8
This deck will be stick on the ground after couple of rain,it will be not level after rain,absolutely you must be do drainage for rain,you must be put some think for post,if u don’t want to use cement,just buy 10”x10” cement cylinder ready cement post holder,it’s 5,99 at the Lowe’s
If u put 12 peace f this ready cement box,doesn’t need a permits for this deck and will be strong,and he made a deck wth 2x4 it’s ok
But these joists must be pressured wood and u must be put black tape on the joists,the guy didn’t showed from top to down on the video because all joists will be shown under boards white wood,because he didn’t put any tape,if u r doing ur own deck just make sure you dig the hole press the soil and add gravel(which is a bag $4,99 covers 3 holes) then pressed again then put the ready cement blocks
Put black tape on the joists( it may little expensive,just water proof paint or asphalt coat will be cheaper)and don’t do screw on the composite deck boards,there are hidden screws for$111 ,and don’t do like this guy did 20’ boards because over then 16’boards are special order,which mean is more more expensive....
How much to charge for a Deck like this? Is by square footage or how do I Charge end how much
Awesome! Nice work.
Overkill
How do I get a hold of Steve?
Dont follow this if your trying to go by code or have your deck last for more than 3 years.
Thanks for your reply Ryan. You don’t live in Florida do you? Do you know what the code is sir? Just curious. You do know it differs in all areas right!
@@fritzybrothers I don't. Its shoddy work regardless of code
@@ryanscott6600 I would love to hear your reasons why, do tell.
Hi see admiration in some of my work and yet there is still some jealousy that I sense as well. My mother always said if you can’t say something nice, don’t say anything at all.
@@fritzybrothers Why did you use 2x4 instead of 2x6? For the amount of time and effort put into pounding all those posts into the ground it would have been a better use of your time and money to just buy the proper sized lumber for building a frame no? Also where did you come up with 3screws = 5nails? Nails were the right choice, but screws hold a linear load and nails hold a shear load, they are not interchangeable in any meaningful way that ive ever seen.
And just as an aside, Florida is about the 40th state ranked for Construction Workers throughout US. Manufacturing rankings for employees correlate almost 1:1 with product quality. So before falling back on 'code' which is about as gerrymandered as the voting districts in florida (just a joke keep your panties on lol) is the same as sayings "Well its good enough".
You know your stuff brother!
I love what I do my friend
You should have gone bigger and 1 additional foot further away from the wall. I would prefer 20' x 35', if you have the space available in the backyard, even though it a bit more costly.
What the price for a 13x20 on 2x6?
how much $ for the woods ??
No cement won’t last
Will the post in the ground pose a problem for the future?
its a terrible job mate
Yes
How can i square my deck is 10x12
Measure 3 feet from the outside of the corner and mark the outside of the board and then Mark 4 feet on the other side of the corner from outside of the corner to the outside of the board and then it should be 5 feet from the 3 foot mark in the 4 foot mark. Move the framing accordingly
Won't the dirt eventually rot the posts
yeah about 25 years it will...
Hm
Less than 10 years.. The whole point of a deck is to have it off the ground
@@Jo-xg6rk i think 10 years is generous jo,ive had some tanalised 8 x4 sleepers in the garden and they are rotten as a pear
@@skimask5049 10 max
Great video. Thanks
Dobra robota★★★★★★
Beautiful? Good job
How much will something like this cost?
Charlie Diaz 16 dollars a square foot if in Tampa and I do it.
It’s $26 in Az if you want it done properly, apparently $16 in Florida if you want it done Half A$$
dry rot will finish the deck .
🚬😎 nice
You have forgotten to lay membrane guys
Good luck with weed
i did this.. using 2x4 a guy told me its not the way..... after 3 years its still like new,,,
I built a deck using 2x4 too. I built them 12 inch between joists. 6 years and still strong. I do need to restain my deck but the foundation is great.
There are a lot of good videos on CZcams regarding how to properly build a deck.
This is *not* one of them.
A lot of work only using 2 x 4s
It looks nice but those guys at Designer Decks worked twice as hard because they used the wrong wood for that length deck! That’s why they had to use loads of 4x4 to make it stable. They should have made a smaller deck if they were using 2x4’s or used 2x6’s if they wanted a deck that long. They made a crappy foundation and sugar coated it with nice top boards ……. Shame on you!!!! Poor guy thinks he have a deck that’s going to last for years but I guarantee in will have trouble within a couple of years! Again shame on you and your Janky company!!!
What a mess
100% complete bodge job
100% complete bodge job
some weed suppresant wouldnt go a miss either
Deck in the ground...no bueno. But u get what you pay for. Depends in what was paid.
He is not amazing its just really easy to make a deck like that but you get into different levels and stairs then I call in a guy like him. Still nice job.
True...that's when you need a professional when real safety is involved.
He does more complicated decks as well 😃
This job needed tuff blocks and some weed fabric. Would have saved you digging all those holes. Lifted rhe lumber off the ground and prevented weeds.
in Canada, they are $16 each, so about $500 vs $30. This is a poorman's deck that will last 5 to 10 years in Florida because the soil is sandy and drains decently. If he coated the bottom of the supports with some waterproofing, he could easily get that to 15 years or more.
Think it need so weed killer no membrane !
Can you make that deck out of pallets
This is definitely how not to build a deck. Those 4x4's are probably rotted out by now.
Absolutely. Even tantalised wood would rot laid straight on the ground, they could have dug under to clear an inch gap under the joists.. Nothing to stop grass/weeds growing either. The composite might last 25 years but they would lose the subframe within 10 years.
What if they used the mulching paper to fist cover the ground they worked on? Then apply moisture sealant onto the wood, do you Think they could get possibly at least a solid 30 years out of the deck? If so then the project served its purpose and more.
@@meanwright5195 absolutely not, water and humidity will destroy that almost as fast, probably much faster once it started retaining moisture. Don't build stuff right on the ground.
do you have a material list for building this?
Please wear eye and ear protection.
It would be a lot better if wood was not so expensive. I am making a deck right now and I am getting good tips. Thanks for video. 👍
No under layment and right on the ground. No thanks
its not 30in above grade and its not attached to the house ... you keep referencing 'code' ... are you sure ?
Yes
Wannabe lumber soldiers are losing their minds. Gentlemen, it’s 6”s off the ground. Take a chillaxative and sip of whiskey. I know 6”s may be huge for some of you. It’s not. No permit needed.
No weed mat, wtf, enjoy the grass and weeds coming up between the boards. That’s if the smashed up wooden posts don’t end up rotting first. Even a DIY guy wouldn’t do such a amateur job. Shame on you for ripping the homeowner off.
OK KAREN...
all the whiney comments about this build. One thing you guys are forgetting. The customer wanted it built this way. Because its HIS, NOT YOURS.
Does not matter what the client wants, we have to warranty our work and has to be up to code. This was a terrible build.
Its not whiney - its just warning other folks that this is NOT the way to build frames for decking of any type - it will rot in a few years. and weeds/grass will grow up between the deck pieces.
The customer only requested that it’s built 2 feet away from the fence, anything additional was all on the builder.
@@titirititiri6360 There is no code for decks under 24 inches high and not attached to main structure.
You should’ve at least used 2x6!!!!! And 6x6 post!!! Ur a rookie.. next time get a real contractor. Not a handyman
Absolute nonsense
literally the worst deck job ever.....this is what you get going with lowest bid......
Doh! This is not good for anything.
Get a clue.Dont do this.