Why NO ONE Plays: Mewtwo | Super Smash Bros. Ultimate
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- Previously a top tier in Smash 4, Mewtwo's transition to Ultimate and his subsequent placement among the roster has been very ambiguous. Today we're gonna break down Why NO ONE Plays: Mewtwo.
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#SSBU #WhyNoOnePlays #Mewtwo - Hry
"he has a lot of things going for him, but in the context of his kit and character, their ability is hindered in some shape or form."
that's basically most of smash ultimate characters conundrum lol
Mewtwo is definitely one of those character I feel could go up in the tier list, if we saw more players experiement with him.
Same with my main Greninja!
@@asuuki2048 greninja is a lot better imo
@@AaronVillalobos Yes, but the problem is nobody plays him. Even though he is really fast with a good up move and slash.
Coming from a greninja main.
@@l3mxn1 : It’s precisely because no one plays it that Mewtwo isn’t as good. If it was good, then wouldn’t pro players already be flocking to it like Aegis and Cloud?
There’s a reason why Wadi, best SSBU Mewtwo player in the world, relegates Mewtwo as a secondary.
I think the main problems with Mewtwo is that a lot of people don’t like floaties and the tail hitbox can be very aggravating. Also, I think he could be helped a lot if he was still given backwards momentum from Shadow Ball.
Oh yeah that tail is annoying granted it’s a good high risk-high reward concept but there are way too many animations like his double jump, dash, and Aireals they expose the hit box more than it should.
He's not even the only one with a tail attack and I don't even think the others have a hurt box like he does 😭
The tail hit box is really not that bad, you don't need to play around it that much. I agree with the video , mewtwo is a high tier.
@@Littletony525 Delusional
@@Littletony525 I agree, but the annoyance that comes with it is what I think turns people off from him. It doesn’t actually make him bad it just makes him frustrating.
I feel like the more technical side of Mewtwo will be the key to unlocking his full potential. Wavebounce Shadow Ball, Teleport cancels, footstool Disable (especially out of shield), and more combo optimization could absolutely push the character further. Problem is that most of the players who do play Mewtwo are on Team Fundies, which includes Wadi. I could say that about many characters, and Mewtwo is just one of those many examples
I personally don't think Mewtwo is that technical in the first place. He's about as Technical as Samus and Bowser combined.
Like those 3 things are nice and all but I don't think they'll help out Mewtwo too much. Any character with a charge shot can wavebounce (Excluding shit like DK Punch, Flood) and it doesn't really give much people an advantage over the opponent. I know this first hand as I'm NOTORIOUS for wavebouncing a lot for no damn reason as charge shot characters.
Teleport cancels are cool looking but just because something looks cool doesn't mean that it's practical in neutral, advantage, or even disadvantage. I cannot think of much practical uses of Teleport Cancels other than trying to swag on your opponent offstage by crossing them up with one.
Footstool disable is for the most part some twitter shit not gonna lie lmfao.
Footstool disable is a good tool on paper for punishes but yeah there's no way that alone would be enough to push Mewtwo up much. Character is clearly designed as more of a hit and run character but he's just not great at it. He's alright but his playstyle is always going to be pretty unimpressive. Mewtwo fans should just be glad he's no longer garbage and is actually decent now
@@Sh1v3rIZAEBeen playing Mewtwo for years (10+) and Mewtwo is definitely more technical than he seems. I still havent seen a player use him to his full potential yet, SDX was the closest but left smash.
It's not only footstools and teleport cancels, it's also slide back down b's, dtilt> IDJ into uAir>nair dragdowns which are greatly underused.
Infact dtilt IDJ combos are just very underused with mewtwo and gives gim acess to his biggest combos. Also nair has 7 different ways it can sent opponents each with their own confirms and it makes it very hard to consistently control and get the best out of it because of that. All that coupled with his unique physics makes it unusual to control and adds a layer of difficulty
Might not be the MOST technical but definitely far above average, there are reason why we dont see Mewtwo do his craziest stuff in tourny.
That level of technicality is usually not worth all the weaknesses that comes with it and needs dedication to pull off. Fundies just arent enough for this character. He is definitely harder than Samus and Bowser individually OR combined. As Samus player myself, there is nothing that is hard to pull of as Samus. I still struggle with M2 after all these years.
If he was that simple, people would use him as a secondary.
@@chalybee8689 First of all I want to thank you for telling me about Dtilt IDJ combos, those sound like a nice concept.
Mewtwo's nair is actually pretty consistent. Odd numbers send in while even numbers send out. I found this out while messing around in Floatwars (Tail Smash combos)
But even with the things you provided I still don't think that's enough for a character to be considered technical. Having a few character specific things just isn't enough for me to consider the character to be technical. I was comparing him to Samus and Bowser the way he can just shit out damage output at times and how he's a big body, on top of his somewhat straight forward neutral plan at times.
That's just me personally though, but it is because I'm a huge pseudo Melee/P+head.
IMO, mewtwo's biggest irritation, is his drag down N-Air leaving the opponent facing a random direction, if it didn't then drag down N-Air would lead into disable and lead to some crazy set ups
I think the big thing abt tail is that it changes mewtwo from big to huge when its already lighter than a feather. Your margin for error becomes so small that its hard for him to reach any kind of consistency, despite his super high highs
I think Mewtwo’s teleport was something that you didn’t talk about much. It is an ability with under-explored tech which has potential to mixup opponents and steal neutral or even advantage state from people. In a quarter of a second he can go from disadvantage off stage to center stage and there is nothing people can do about it. Factor in edge cancelling and you have a really scary character than can zone and camp like nobody’s business. The thing is he is treated like he should be able to play a more aggressive style but his entire kit revolves around bait and punish tactics. When played in this way Mewtwo shines.
I agree about his teleport. It has similar utility to Palutena's but more range, isn't an attack so can't be countered and since it goes in all directions and recovers pretty fast, you can just teleport out of most non true pressure if you've got the chance. Definitely one of the best up Bs in the game.
When I play Mewtoo I pretend to be his character from the first Pokémon movie. He’s psychic type so I envision being a step ahead of my opponent.
The way I see it is he his a character with a bait and punish style that has the possibility to play more aggressively against more defensive characters and overwhelm them thanks to his better frame data and kill power. That's the situations where his aggressive play shines in my opinion.
He's teleport has stupidly strict spacing which makes canceling really hard to do consistently. Theres a reason non of the pro players really do it in bracket. And the end lag on it means you can't just freely telepirt back to center stage unless your opponent is going off stage to edge guard
Some fun tech with Mewtwo's teleport, is to bait out a reflected shadow ball and use the intangibility to teleport through the reflected shadow ball and punish the end lag on the reflector
As someone who mained Mewtwo in sm4sh, seeing the addition of the tail hit boxes was a gut punch. Still the #1 reason i dont really play with him anymore, it just limits spacing options and makes fighting swordies hell
Why would they do that to Mewtwo? Seems like Smash hates him.
@@DrNotEmpathetic I didn't know a lot of people didn't play him. He's one of my mains.
I actually think Mewtwo is underrated.
I play Mewtwo myself and waited every day for this video. Thank you!
He still isn’t great though
@@AegisEdge he isn't the best. But it is still a really good charakter.
I would say, that Mewtwo is a little worse in Ultimate than it was in Smash4, but the current toptiers are just better.
@@vanikura2302Yh in smash 4 he was quite annoying
I play Mewteo as well. I got stomped by my brother playing falcon, but I trained a bit now I'm better and I usually beat him. F-tilt is a good spacing tool, shadow ball can be spammable but down special is a bit situational. Yeha he's floaty but I don't mind.
Mewtwo in the right hands is a force to be reckoned with
I think Mewtwo has valid strengths for people to pick up, but his losing matchups are so common I don't think it's worth it
Mewtwo had the largest drop out of any character in Smash 4 on the first Ultimate tier list
Mewtwo has been my main for awhile now, I feel like he’s one of the cast that the negatives get looked at too harshly.I never really have a hard time with the idea of the tail box, I just play the game and learn to overcome the disadvantages.I think mewtwo has a lot of options when the user starts getting into movement tech like wave bouncing and slingshots. I think it’s not as flash as some of the cast fight styles which doesn’t drive people to put in the time to see the skill ceiling is pretty high.good video,cheers
This kinda has a similar vibe to Elite Four Karen's quote from Pokemon Gold/Silver/Crystal or Heart Gold/Soul Silver. Players should use the characters they want to use, regardless of what other's opinions are. 😊
I love this comment but what’s wave bouncing?
And what’s slingshots? I wanna do that with Mewtwo. Is that just the grab reverse throw?
@Elliot Morley slingshots are a method of while in momentum being able to defend and create mix up movement options. I would strongly suggest you watch the slingshot video on youtube, it's hard to really explain without seeing it.cheers!
I think Mewtwo is underrated in a sense Ganondorf was in Melee: could take care of a lot of characters but loses to all the top tiers and is a giant target.
I think in a roster with 80+ characters it’s inevitable that some are going to fall through the cracks in usage, and Mewtwo is one of them (also see Lucario, Duck Hunt, Mii Swordfighter to name a few others). He seems to be a victim of circumstance, being a popular Pokemon but not necessarily enough compared to other Pokemon reps, being a veteran from Melee and thus having little novelty value, and not having any unique gimmicks or off the wall tools that inspire curiosity and experimentation. Combine that with his awkward competitive profile as explained in the video and you’ve got a character that just kinda exists in a lot of people’s minds.
I hope you know this is one of my all time favorite series. You are an amazing CZcamsr and I’m very glad I found you
I think M2 being so floaty is what makes the tail hurtbox in Ultimate so noticeable. Even in S4 the floatyness got you hit like a beach ball a lot, but un Ultimate the tail hurtbox exaggerates the problem. I've been so close to committing to maining M2 for a while now, but keep finding myself liking Samus for some of the same traits (charge shot vs shadow ball)
GREAT VIDEO VARS!!! YES!!! A combination of being well thought out, well spoken, and well said. You have a great voice as well. Keep these videos coming, you hammered every nail with this one.
“By all accounts this move is broken… but it’s on mewtwo. “
The entire mewtwo kit
I agree. Also Mewtwo feels like he is playing with one less tool than everyone else. His fspecial and dspecial are very unique but have such specific uses, especially dspecial, that also somewhat overlap each other. I believe if the dspecial was traded for an more useful tool he would fair much better as well. Maybe future sight as a projectile that spawns and moves towards him 3 seconds later could be used to cover space in a defensive way.
Down Special (Disable) is absolutely Broken on Mewtwo. Disable outranges Swordies and gives him I-Frames.
@@Mika-xw1xp Yeah, what I'm hearing is "its very situational" like I said.
Was randomly clicking on your video and then saw 2 of my VODs lol ! Thank you I guess ! Great vid :)
This might just be my dumb "hot take" but I feel that Mewtwo is really hurt by not being able to play a standard Netrual game. He has all of the tools you need to win Netrual but because of his unique nature he can't play "footies" well and the longer Netrual goes, the more likely he loses it. Mewtwo wins fast and transitions to Advantage or loses slowly while taking chip damage that will kill him since he is too light. Again, at first glance on paper, Mewtwo has a OK Netrual and many ways to win it, but in practice, you either find a way to keep Netrual short or you often lose.
Thinking about it after your reasoning, he is similar to Sora in terms of weaknesses. This lends him to being more of a “glass cannon” character.
Hope to see Why No One Plays Lucario next.
While trying out different characters in search of a main, I actually landed on Mewtwo. His move just feel like they hurt and it's great how aggressive he can be. Additionally I actually like floaty jumps for some reason.
It's because you're gay.
His rapid jab feels like it's fucking the opponent UP. Maybe it's the sound design (along with it of course being the most damaging rapid jab in the game, if I'm not mistaken).
I didn’t know a lot of this, but I definitely *feel* like I had more success with Mewtwo in Smash 4 than Ultimate, just couldn’t put my finger on why.
Great video! I really love these. Could you do Isabelle next? I find it fascinating how she was originally viewed as menacing when the game first released and is now widely considered hardly even playable. I may be wrong about her starting off as menacing but it always seemed that way to me.
Again, great job :D
LETS GO! I've been asking for this!
Biggest reason for people choosing other characters is that they offer similar high highs but without the crushing lows of the times your tail gets clipped. Mewtwo at his worst can feel like a punching bag getting hit by long range or disjointed attacks when any other character would be safe, and you constantly have to keep in mind that you're trying to mitigate this huge weakness of his whenever you're playing him whether on offence or defence.
I was legit waiting for this, now I gotta watch :D!
After watching:
I fully believe he is underrated. You said you think he is s potential high tier, and I do too. Probably A-.
I think his faults are so obvious and people overlook his incredible strengths. They see big body tail hitbox low weight and put him in bottom tier.
He is hard to play in that you have to be very much aware of what you can do and your opponent can do, due to being a big body light weight, you want to play safe and explode in advantage without over extending, and then you have to be that much more patient and observant in disadvantage to limit the damage as much as possible.
His tools are so good though. Yeah, the tail hurtbox sucks, but the normals are still really good. His specials are also ridiculous. Shadowball is definitely one of the best projectiles in the game. Confusion is a reflector and a command grab. Disable also isn’t cheese, and is a legit hard read death sentence. It has situations where it is more consistent (covering platform techs) as well as proper setups (shadow ball > footstool > disable). Teleport is also crazy and is a tool out of disadvantage and the crazy stuff you can do cancelling it from ledge and plats is crazy.
Confusion and Disable are crazy good but they are also hard to use. Compare this to DLC who have great abilities that are kinda brain dead.
Loved the video Vars. I would love to here your opinion on DonkeyKong though. I feel like he's in a unique position were a lot of people play him but he's always considered low tier.
I really like Mewtwo and wanted to use him as my secondary for Ness, but I chose Roy for his smaller hurtbox and ease of use instead.
I love your videos keep up the good work
I was wondering why I was having a not so good time trying to pick up Mewtwo. The combination of his kit and moveset as well as his floatiness makes him hard to pick up quickly (for me at least)
Mewtwo is all gas and no brakes, an amazing advantage state and an awful disadvantage state. He literally can't run away because when he turns around and goes into his run animation his tail sticks out and puts his hitbox closer than when he was just facing them.
As a Mewtwo main, I was afraid all this video was gonna be was - "He tall. He big. He light. He tail. HE BAD!" So, thank you for not making it that, lol. I think Mewtwo is very underrated. Part of it, like you said in the video, is that he does have a unique play style that is difficult to get right. But he's got some of the sickest combos and set ups in the entire game. I think a good player who really "gets" Mewtwo's game plan could go really far.
Mewtwo should’ve never been touched from Smash 4. I have no idea why he was touched in transition. The airdodge had to go. That was clear. But nothing else was jank or wrong. It honestly feels like they were like “Oh, this character is only nine spots away from Bayonetta and she’s busted. He must be busted, too.”
what a weird week. i started playing m2, see a bunch of m2 combo comps on my reccomended without me looking anything up about it, now this
been playing mewtwo a lot recently,this is gonna be interesting
That's funny. I just recently started messing with Mewtwo, and his punish game and pressure feel really strong. I was wondering why he wasn't played more. A week and a half later here comes Vars
I main Aegis and Ridley. While in training mode, I decided to mess with Mewtwo, and I found that he's a bloody blast to play! It's a shame that not many others play him
U main Aegis and Ridley ? U must be a very bad human being lol
Mewtwo's advantage state is a dream... if you can get it that is.
Mewtwo has some of the best tools in the game but I didn't know how much his disadvantages hurt him. Can we see Toon Link soon?
Great video! Would you ever do a Why No One Plays on Toon Link?
I used to play MewTwo when I played the game frequently. He just felt good to play for me. Used to play samus a lot but that got stale and MewTwo looked like a Samus but with more oomph and fun to be had.
I was never super good at the game, never did any tourneys, but if I ever played it again I would go straight back to MewTwo.
Thank you for talking about them though. Reminds of me the good times I had, all the clips you've shown of MewTwo doing well were fun to watch while you spoke facts.
I mained Mewtwo in smash 4, and while I still like playing him he's just lost so much in the transition. Not only did his hurtbox get bigger, but it became a bit harder to string together certain moves (both f-air strings and u-tilt into upsmash to name two) and confusion took a huge hit in its usefulness, stunning for shorter while also feeling worse for recovery mixups. I liked his sm4sh airdodge more as well, with the invisibility functioning as an occasional mixup, but I can't call that a strict downgrade.
It didn't help that I moved to a town with a competitively stronger scene, so playing a glass canon was a fair bit more punishing
Damn, you live in a town with a notable and strong competitive scene? I didn't think places outside of cities would have that.
As a Mewtwo main I loved the video, definitely should’ve talked about slingshot, and teleport stuff. I won’t lie his Meta is massively unexplored imo. SB combos are insanely broken with how you can condition with SB and a reflecting command grab. His kit pretty much as everything you could want jn a character minus a few things. But he’s massively underrated and I think with someone actually playing the character he could be mid - high high tier
Awesome video man, Mewtwo is my secondary. He's legit for all the reasons you covered. When in doubt, I choose Mewtwo and he rarely disappoints.
the character is just too fair ( advantages and weaknesses ) in a game dominated by bullshit mechanics and moves that look like they came straight from the mind of a dreaming kind writing his Xmas list
Mewtwo reminds me a lot of Lucario in the same aspects that you brought out. Covers multiple archetypes and has a very versatile toolkit but also has inconsistency issues with how his aura scales. I believe both mewtwo and lucario respectively has a lot of hidden potential but they’re both unique in how they’re designed under this games engine.
So Lucario _did_ effectively replace Mew2 in Brawl...
Awesome vid Vars! Can you do one on Zelda she is my favorite character!
Mewtwo is definitely fitting that design of a glass canon with that exploitable hurt box. His original weakness in Melee was due to his stats not fitting with the pace of the game and its ironic that its basically the same way in this version
The weight, floaty, and hurtbox size has always been a detriment to his unique kit but if all of those were adjusted he be an entirely new character but also practically an unstoppable space animal with a sword
I think a lot of people just think of melee and resent Mewtwo. Current Mewtwo is completely different and is a powerful glass cannon that actuallty has mobility, combos, range all in one.
Tbh, as someone who has played M2 since Sm4sh and Ultimate Day 1, I think this video could have genuinely benefited to some degree to have looked at the matchup spread Mewtwo has rather than basing it off calculated thought or some tournament videos. All the characters listed that he "struggles" against I felt was such an bold statement that I kinda screamed while watching bc the community of M2 players, unlike some other communities of characters who disagree about certain matchups, a Twitter spreadsheet broke down that we are in the top 5 most consistent communities that have opinions on who he can face and have a decent chance in. We
Facing Joker, ROB, Cloud for example I haven't had a conversation with any M2 players who believe they can struggle at it so badly that it's considered losing or they felt immense pressure by facing them (myself included). I'm willing to give you slightly losing if we are to be generous here, but most of the community just agrees that for some of the high tiers and top tiers just even matchups we have to deal with and it's all dependent on the skill level understanding you have of your character.
I wish that Mewtwo's tail could be grabbed, but hits would deal damage without knock back unless they dealt high knock back. Hitting someone's ponytail doesn't send em flying, unless you yank it really hard
Could you do a video on the Link trifecta?
A lot of people say Adult Link is better than Toon Link, but more people play the latter while Young Link is also universally agreed to be the best out of all the three.
I’d love to see your take on these three characters maybe all in one video?
I'm sorry, what is the music used in this video? I could swear it sounds like Glitch City, but I don't see any credits or anything anywhere.
Absolutely a good choice in song either way!
As a mewtwo main, I love that people don't play him, shadow ball camping goes crazy 😂
I miss Brawl when no one played Ike.
Good video vars
Doing the hurtbox stuff with Mewtwo's tail is almost like putting a hurtbox on a semi swordie lol.
Vars the goat! great breakdown. Advantage state is too fun; i'll never drop m2.
I still think Mewtwo is going to eventually find more respect later in Ultimate's competitive lifespan. He is so fluid and sick when played well. Also, people don't make enough use of shooting off multiple quick little aerial or B-reverse Shadow Balls to cover the space between you and the opponent before approaching... he has so much air speed that he can cover that distance very quickly and get good punishes.
Give Mewtwo Yoshi's jump cancelling and you have a monster
Great video 😃 👍
As a Mewtwo main, I agree with this video, it is true that the character has some significant drawbacks, it definitely does not takeaway the fact that his edge-guarding game is beastly. I still love him regardless and will continue to play him
I regularly try to learn mewtwo but I just have trouble thinking around that weird double jump
Not sure if it would’ve been realistic, but I wish landing an attack on Mewtwo’s tail would deal no knockback
mewtwo disable also has some impossible to pull off comboes to garuntee it, and at one point in time had a single tick of nair>footstool>disable>nair>footstool>disable infinite
Ayoo J-job clip moment
I've always wanted to like Mewtwo, but he's just never clicked for me. His moveset is versatile and he's got great tools, but I've never been able to figure out what his playstyle is supposed to be. His kit doesn't really coalesce into a clearly defined archetype. I know he has a niche in counterplaying certain matchups, but it doesn't feel like he has an apparent fundamental approach to his design. His best tools feel sort of cobbled together on a character who's not really built around using them. He's weird and technical, but not in a way that makes me think "That's cool. I wanna learn how to do that."
Do an Incinaroar Video
I main incinaroar but it’s going to like 15 minutes of “L he’s slow as shit.”
I always just called Mewtwo "Smash's version of Street Fighter's Akuma"
Extremely good tools, high damage, stupid pressure, mobility. Purple attacks. Counterbalanced by its health. Or in Smash's case, the weight.
Weight+Size.
You could sum up mewtwos issues with 'hes floaty and has a tail hitbox'
3:08 that was funny ngl
I admittedly was part of the hurtbox fear club....but i love the character so much that I decided to play him in Ultimate when I got it and im having a blast. Him/Sora are so much fun to me cuz of the floatiness I always saw it as a huge benefit if you could play safe and DI well
I love playing with MewTwo casually, but I struggle a lot with him, I think for many of the reasons you said. I agree with you that he's somewhat high-tier amongst the cast, but he is very difficult to use.
Fun fact: Mewtwo's down throw literally never combos if you DI out. It's a fake combo throw.
I play him, always loved his design and gameplay, the only thing i'm not a fan of is the last hit in his neutral melee extension which leaves little room for close range combos, meaning i rarely use his neutral melee extension unless i want to push someone back but if i want to combo i simply stun with the first hit then i use the cancel frame to go for his other attacks, despite his flaws i really like him.
When I played smash ultimate on the daily Mewtwo was my main. So I’m happy to see you make a video for him/them? But anyway, it’s so fun to just get in the opponents face and hit them with hard hitting moves and floating above range. It feels like a majestic dance against the opponent. But you are right on Mewtwo “having many aggressive opinions that cannot be used defensively.” Such a shame too because he could of been a more topheavy version of Paultena. He needs moves to use in disadvantage and areal cancels. It’s like having the coolest looking car but with no car battery. Also I know this might be controversial but I think it’s best to remove his Disable. It’s too gimmicky and does not really help unless the opponent is running at you or if you get a ledge roll predict. Mewtwo has a wide movepool so something like stored power (where it has to be charged like piranha plants poison) but it does a small amount of damage around him and knocks back opponents or something.
4:30
Dude literally forgot about Cloud's Bair.
Overall I think he has a lot of similar problems akin to my main, Ridley.
Big payoff of a very good advantage state, but there will be a lot of games and times where you just cannot do a thing and can't exit disadvantage. And having many games where you just cannot have fun is not an enjoyable experience.
and unlike Ridley (weight is not his problem, that's a scrub take, fight me) Mewtwo is extremely light and can get blown up easily.
Was basically going to say something to this effect. Sure, advantage state feels extremely fluid/satisfying, but disadvantage state quickly sucks the fun out of the character in an overwhelming way. If you care about results, you probably are going to want to prioritize consistency. There's no doubt Mewtwo hasn't been optimized, but I don't see how he really gets there (fox/pikachu matchups felt especially brutal). Followed Wadi's lead and started maining R.O.B. Admittedly not as much fun (gyro camp for dayz), but the consistency difference is like night and day.
I main ridley and second mewtwo, and I completely agree with this take lol. Part of why I found mewtwo fairly easy to pick up
@@agrungedrummer gyro camp for days!! 👌🏕
Being a large character/large hurt boxes and being lighter than what the norm is. That is fundamentally unfair or going into a fight with unnecessary handicaps. This goes for both Mewtwo and Ridley. It also applies to dlc like Sephiroth. But he has enough good things to balance that issue out.
@@redshepherd32 Your mistake is that, unlike the other two, Ridley isn't *light*. Sure he is not a superheavy but he's at 107 units which is more than ROB.
Skyjay just made it to grands. You should do why no one plays incineroar
Hey I think I remember you mentioning how you were going to make a why no one plays on villager. If that’s still the case, I would love to help out in some way if possible
They should give mewtwo an backdash attack when the tail hits the enemy when dashing bwck than it should count as hit as shielding hit like palus back air
I have a feeling banjo will appear eventually, if so I'm pretty hype.
Me and the 4 other banjo mains on earth
Dude literally forgot about K. Rool Up-Throw when talking about M2's throws. lol
Zelda next please! I've been waiting forever :)
He is a risky glasscannon. Thats the reason why I don't play him as much as I want to, but resort to even safer zoners like ROB and Toon Link.
His tail hurt box is my reason. Just too much work not to get hurt with him.
In my opinion, I love playing mewtwo. And oddly I’ve found that most of the characters that WaDi plays are fun and balanced, so I enjoy those as well
Any chance Vars could do a video on Why Nobody Plays Pokken Tournament? Maybe I am wrong, but for a Pokemon-cetric fighting game that looked super cool, it sure never seemed popular. It would make for an interesting topic to explore. I bring it up here cuz Mewtwo happened to be in that game too. Also, I love Mewtwo. So any chance I could get to see more of him on the screen would be godlike!! 👌
As a mewtwo main, I would describe him as a spear. Perfect for damage and as a jack of all trades for attacking, but near no real options for defense or turning around disadvantage. You have to know what your opponents choices at all times or you will be overwhelmed into disadvantage. That's why I use Palu as a second, similar game style but Palu has that defense Mewtwo lacks for certain match ups
He’s in the wrong game: ultimate is a pretty mashy game with tons of great out of shield options, and people don’t hold shield for long enough or consistently enough for mewtwo to be rewarded. And his downsides are pretty bad when you compare his kit to other high tiers that have similar levels of strength without having steep down sides like chrom, terry, wolf, etc. not to mention top tiers who are all stronger with well-rounded kits and no tail hitbox.
I played mewtwo for a couple of months and I have to say, all the disadvantages you pointed out for the character is kinda of why I don’t play the character anymore. Obviously the tail is a problem but when u add in his high risk high reward gameplay and his average disadvantage state and matchup chart, it just isn’t really worth playing the character compared to others in the game
Mewtwo is my worst good character, and yeah, a lot of this is pretty spot on, especially the part about having to awkwardly disengage while in disadvantage, and having a lot of rough blind spots on his "versatile" moves.
I agree the tail hurtbox isn't AS big of a deal as it maybe seems, but it's still painful, especially if I try playing Mewtwo in the same sitting that I play Ridley.
This is probably just a me issue, but I also find Mewtwo is a character that makes me overthink. Instead of just taking good, simple options, I feel compelled to do more weird stuff with Mewtwo and I have no idea why.
I suppose I keep getting this channel recommended cause I like watching Evo tournaments & Smash combo competitions, things like that. But from all the thumbnails I've seen so far (At least 10+) it seems like no one plays ANY characters on smash bros... 🤨
Finally the character I used to play
I used to be good with him but frankly resorting to camp with shadow ball every game got boring to me.
I did a long break from the game and lost all my fundamentals with every character I played semi competently like Mewtwo and Shulk
So I went back to my first main Wolf and him being easier was easier on my hands too.
Mewtwo has an S tier moveset with C tier Body and physics
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I was gonna say k rool up throw which deals around 20% but then i remembered about kazuyas stupid input throw that deals as much as a heavyweight f smash
I had no idea people didnt like him in melee, i always felt that was one of his strongest showings. I mained Marth, but Mewtwo and Samus were always my backups.
Slingshot is really good for MewTwo
yeah it allows him to take advantage of his speed, still working on it though, it's not easy, and I have been slacking on my labbing lately
It also circumvents his turnaround weakness with his tail when trying to retreat which I also like
@@sai6724 exactly, I have noticed it’s kinda hard to hit a fair unless your calling out a dash attack or something… mainly use shadow ball with it… still it’s a really good option
For me, it's mostly because of the tail hurt box. I've always wanted to make mewtwo work but the tail hurt box screwed me over so much, it was frustrating. It's no reason as to why it's there.
Let's talk about the method used to unlock Melee Mewtwo back in the Gamecube days...
I've seen a few Mewtwo players in online spectator fights where they would effectively use his forward air or back air on their opponents then follow up with his charged blast at around 50% health on the opponents. It's hit or miss, but I've seen it enough times to where they can knock some stocks off opponents. Samus players do this same technique.
Def underrated. I think he's at least bottom of high tier or top of mid tier.