The BEST Sony Camera for Wedding Photography in 2023 - A7IV vs A7RV vs A9II vs A1
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Since almost daily I receive questions from you guys - which camera to get for weddings - A7IV vs A7RV, A1 vs A9II or A7IV vs A9II - In this video I'm breaking down top 4 choices from Sony for wedding photography camera in 2023. I shot wedding work with all of them and have pretty good understanding about the differences. For me it comes down to answering 4 simple questions regarding your needs. Let me down in the comments what do you guys think!
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Happy to see your channel grow so much. Started watching your videos when you started 2 years ago as a recommended. I learn so much from you Magic. Keep up the great work!!
Great insight Magic! Thanks for sharing the info. Love my A9ll !🎉
I like the A7RV.. Hands down…you’ll never miss a shot… Just use compressed med raw (nearly lossless) to save file size for the majority of the shots…The 60 megapixels gives you room to crop if needed without losing resolution … I wouldn’t worry about shutter sound .. nobody cares about it .. your a photographers … cameras make sound, that’s just natural… and the shutter is not that loud on Sony cameras..The A7RV also does good video as well while taking advantage of the AI autofocus is a game changer.. The A7RV is a wedding photographers dream in my opinion… The A1 is overkill, for wedding, and almost has same mega pixels as A7RV, It’s way too expensive especially if you needed two camera bodies… Yes the A7RV will gather a lot of detail in portraits, but what modern camera doesn’t? The A1 and A74 both grab more portrait detail than desired… Thats why wedding photographers use post editing and processing no matter the camera… No one shoot and delivers photos right out of the box…lol… Oh and computers are much faster these days.. we gotta upgrade our PCs and storage for this new revolutionary tech… It makes the difference!!!😂
I've seen you lose a lot of highlight information with different raw sizes.
Another thing to consider is post workflow. Used to carry 2x a7riv, and the file size just killed my storage and made everything slow. So great point for bringing it up! :)
Top quality comparison, touching the proper points. Great job!
thanks for sharing this video!! im a canon shooter but i might be opting for a7 iv!
Solid Video and Agree with your points. I'm using the A7R V, while I agree with you that spending nearly double for it than the A7IV, and getting 26 megs, have to say I find the files a little sharper than the A7IV files at 33 megs. Maybe it's just my eye, not sure. But for me, it's like having three cameras in one. A high res camera for landscapes, or shots where I want to crop heavy, a nice general purpose shooter at 26 megs, and the best Sony APS-C camera with 100% focus coverage. So I think it's money well-spent. Also waiting on the A9III. Hopefully Sony addresses all the points you made. The no-blackout viewfinder is wonderful to shoot with too in silent mode.
very helpful. thank you
I'm so on the fence of getting a used a9II for my event photography. How is the low-light focus acquisition on that model? Is it ok for fast moving reception shots?
Very nice video. I sold my A7IV due to the overheating when doing video. It gets hot when shooting photos with a grip, but it's still a great Camera so I am going buy back on this week.
I'm on an A7III. I think the A7IV is too small of an upgrade. I currently have some issues with AF sometimes and I believe my mount or sensor is a little crooked :( I hope the A7V will have a better viewfinder, same new screen as a7rV, AI-AF and supports different RAW sizes.
Brilliant, honest and credentialed review. Thank you Magic!
Thanks! Yeah, I like simplifying things and for me those are main factors when deciding on a camera for weddings!
Great video. Excellent breakdown based on the needs of each shooter. You should know your niche and choose camera bodies and lenses based upon that niche. A wildlife photographer will have far different needs for lenses and bodies than a landscape photographer or a portrait photographer.
Very nice summary, thank you!
Quality of silent shooting with A7IV and A7RV make it look like Canon R6 I and II are better choice at this price level. At least if one can live with lens availability for Canon.
I hope next A7 will have faster sensor.
I already have an A9. If I get a second body, I may as well get a body that's strong where the other is weak so the compliment each other.
Thank you for this Video!I do agree with almost everything you said, but for me the sony A7 IV has that screen the opens up on the side that for photos is sooo annoying.
At the moment I have a9 mark ii and it does bending in silent mode depending on the artificial light when shooting faster than 1/100 shutterspeed.
Plus you forgot to mention that the sony A1 it works in silent mode also with Flash and it had the Anti Flicker in Silent mode..the only reason that makes me think of this upgrade!
As you I hope A9 mark ii will come out soon ☺️
I need to do low light photography (pole dancing competitions) I have been looking at the A7S. Do you know what these others are like at low light?
Great video from practical point of view!
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The key advantage that prompted me to get an a7RV alongside my a7IV for event work, rather than just getting two a7IVs, is the ability to get a second effective focal length from a prime lens by using Crop Mode and still get a 26MP RAW.
As for mRAW, I was excited about this until I realized that Adobe's Denoise and DxO's DeepPRIME noise reduction can't work with these files, so for most of my event work this is a non-starter.
Very good videos, but I would like to ask...
1. Which camera to choose or recommend just for photos?
2. Which camera to choose or recommend just for video?
I understand that the Sony Alpha 1 costs a lot but is it the fusion of both image and video areas?...
As an opinion, I could be wrong, but I think that the "ease" of buying both cameras (Image and Video) from the same brand (Sony, Panasonic, etc.) would help to use the same lenses for both cameras or am I wrong? because that point greatly influences the investment.
Since if I buy a camera for image and another camera of another brand for video, I would have to buy lenses for each one.
I would appreciate your advice and again many thanks in advance.
after 5 years of using an A7R3 I ordered the A7R5 yesterday, im pretty excited
Super helpful Magic, think we’ll need to wait for silent shooting and good videoing features 😅 Darn those church weddings.
I been wanting to get a Canon for the longest time...now considering Sony since Canon closed their 3rd party lens options
You don't use to retouch the skin more with higher megapixels just render out for the client lower megapixel jpegs.
Fajny materiał! Ja zbieram na a7iv żeby w końcu przesiąść się z a6300 😁 I co jak co ale jak ja szanuje za te sety Lego w tle 😍
Lego is life!
8:58 The A9ii doesn't have continuous eye AF in video? I've read elsewhere that it does.
Well done indeed. Great overall summary. I’ve owned them all and currently use A1’s and A7RV but do at times miss the other two. Did really like the A7IV for shooting events and it colors which you didn’t mention. Looks like A7RV is producing same colors so that’s great. Do hope the A9III is 33 Mpixels which will make it hard to ignore since I’m assuming it will have lots of the updates. Sony could hit a home run if the A9III is a 33Mpixel stacked sensor.
+ with 4k uncropped 60fps video it would make it the most useful camera on the market 👍🏼
Thanks for the comment! I do know they're keep updating color science on newer models - specifcally A7IV and A7RV, but personally when shooting RAW and editing I don't see much difference between any of those 4 models I mention. Did you preferred A7IV colours over A1 and A7RV?
@@MagicWeddingPhotographer I did prefer the A7IV colors over the A1 even though I do shoot RAW. For me it’s less work in post. A7RV seems improved as well. I’m also a fan of Cobalt Image’s color profiles and they seem to make all the Sony bodies here look more similar than the defaults.
Hey mate, can you spot a difference in the colour grading or look between the different Sony Cameras? Eg if i shot an event in normal lighting with both A1 and an A7IV besides the pixel count and image size, could you tell tge difference after post processing the photos and giving to client at a normal sizing?
sticking with 24mp or dropping to 20mp while improving the high iso would be preferable imo. High iso > MP
fi you're really low on money, get the A7 III. yes, the IV is better, but the III is still a very capable camera, and for the low price of it (especially 2nd hand in great condition) there is simply NO camera on the market that even remotely can touch it.
Cool vid, mate! Thanks for breaking it down in a very comprehensible, and, I'd say, human way.
Huge difference with those "comparisons" from other guys, where they just unload a pile of figures on you.
Thanks B please :)
Finally which is the best camera wedding photography Sir
I am a beginner and want to start travel, wedding and wildlife photography should I get A7riii/A7iii or save more money to get A9i/A7iv/A9ii. Should I get 70-200gm mk2 + 2x tele, 100-400gm and 200-600g please give me a recommendation?
I have been looking for this information. Thank you! Btw my a7iv can do silent shooting..
Yes, they all shoot silent, but under artificial light you can get banding (dark stripes across the image) on A7IV and A7RV which is very hard to eliminate
@@MagicWeddingPhotographerhanks for the heads up.. Good pointer here.. But I’ve never ever felt I needed to use silent shooting for a wedding anyway… no one cares.. I’m not shooting 15 frames a second during mid ceremony… lol that could get weird… As long as I use single shots seldomly,during ceremony, nobody notices, plus I like to take my time and look for moments.. of course at end of ceremony.. then the games changes and I’ll switch to burst mode to capture celebration… As long as I don’t miss focus on a shot I’m good.. Plus shutters are not all that loud and you were hired as a photographer so it’s expected that the camera will make some noise… As long as we are not over doing it with the shutter bursts of paparazzi… lol .. Heck all Smart phones shoot silent … It’s nothing new!!!
This video came at the perfect time! I have an a9ii and just purchased an a7iv.
Oh that’s nice - how do you like A7IV so far?
Me too 🤣🤣
For portraits I use my Sony A7RIV and Sony A7RIVA which are great because I can also use the crop APSC mode for images that not need to be printed in large sizes. I had the Sony A7RIII which also are a great Camera and you can get that for less than the new A7IV, I never do videos, only still photography.
Yeah, A7RIII was a great camera! I’ve shot weddings with it for 3 years. Didn’t jump RIV as the files were simply too big, but I did miss real time tracking AF on RIII and not having two fast card slots.
@@MagicWeddingPhotographer As I mentioned, I never do video and for many shots the 26 megapixels APS-mode are more than enough, also most of my shots are with manual focusing 🙃 I think the A7IV are too expensive for what you not get !
Agreed… Using APS-C mode, it’s like having 2 cameras in one..!!! I like the A7RIV … never turned my back..!!
Shuttersound changes based on the lens attached.
Hey Magic. Love your work, and you are actually in the process of convincing me to switch to Sony (I need to upgrade my camera anyways).
You probably get this all the time, but do you ever critique other people’s work/marketing? I ask because I’m struggling to pick up work this year and a lot of that is due to starting within the last year but still…kind of scary when we’re halfway through prime booking months (at least here in the US…January/February) and I barely have any bookings yet for 2023.
Now that the a9 III has been announced, what do you think? Only 25 MP (well 24.6 MP), but 120 FPS, global shutter and much more... But also $6,000 which is still less than the Sony a1.
I am waiting for new A7Cii. Hopefully it will come with A7IV sensor and A7RV AI Auto Focus. It should be anyway. 😄
What Sony Camera is the best for concert photography?
Magic - What's your take on the a7iii in comparison?
I am still rocking two bodys on weddings and don't know if those still meet the quality standards in 2023.
Quality wise a7iii is still great. I use a7iii and a7iv in weddings and you cannot tell the difference in image quality when shooting photos.
However, I prefer to use a7iv because it's way more confortable, the buttons are better, and the autofocus is much faster when touching the screen to focus.
Hi Magic! The A7IV shutter sound demonstrated at the beginning of this vid - is that with EFCS on and mechanical second curtain, or is it full mechanical shutter? Thanks.
Great question Adam, it’s EFCS On!
I thought so, thanks for confirming.
Full mechanical on the A7IV sounds like two shots are taken when you press the shutter button once.
It's super loud in full mechanical as the first curtain has to close, then open again, and then the second curtain closes! (Yes, all mirrorless cameras do this as far as I know)
This must be too loud for quiet ceremony moments!
I have two more Q's for you! (Or for other Tubers if they know the answers)
1/ How does full mech sound on the A7RV? Is it quieter than the A7IV?
AND
2/ Shooting with EFCS on (and mech 2nd curtain), do you ever experience banding in ceremony shots due to LED lighting?
Thanks!
What about using the medium raw files on the A7R5 and using the crop mode to push your lens zoom. For instance the Tamron 20 - 40mm gives you 60mm at 31mp.
Ive watched a few reviews were they say the medium raw files are impressive.
In the UK market at the moment the A74 is £1850 and the A7R5 is £3000 on the grey market - so £1150 more, it has wider 4K 60p and you almost get a free lens with extra crop zoom.
Oh - the rear screen as well 😆😆😆😆 thats got to be £500 alone if your working constantly horizontal and vertical
Yes that’s the way too go!!! Cheers!!
Those shutter sounds! Finally! :) OK, maybe I'll reconsider the A7RV (even with 61 Mpx, which I don't need, and with more noise than my A7RIII). But probably only when it becomes necessary. Thank you :)
Kinda A9III with 33Mpx stacked sensor, display like A7RV and reasonable price is a dream camera for weddings (EU price a bit under Z9/EOS R3)
yup, A9III like that would be a killer wedding photography camera. But if you're cool with 24mp then A9II is pretty much there :)
Don’t worry about shutter sounds .. silent shutter is a gimmick … I’ve never been to or shot a Wedding where silent shutter was used … ever!!! No one cares .. Just get what you feel works for you and your work flow and makes you an artists in photography… Heck Smart phones have silent shutter.. What’s the big surprise !!! Lol haha😂
Can please send me one camera that you dont recently use
Another great video. For me at weddings, I love silent shooting with natural light. The subject has no idea when you are taking photos resulting in more natural pictures. This is especially true with people not comfortable in front of the camera. I don't think Sony make the perfect camera for weddings as I would like features from A7iv (the MP) A9 (stacked sensor for silent shooting) and the A7RV ( for focusing and that rear screen) I believe the A9iii will have the best of all three, lets hope we do not have to wait too long.
Haha I feel we all agree how A9III should look like! Thanks for your input - I do agree with you on shooting silent with shy couples - it does help. And each of these 4 cameras is somewhat a compromise.
@@MagicWeddingPhotographer that´s how camera business works! 😀
Does the A1 not solve all issues of all cameras???
@@MrBennyrick77 The A1 is great but for me and many other wedding and event photographers 50mp is too much. If it was a Canon camera like the R5 that would be ok. The problem with Sony is the file sizes, my 24mp A9 produces around the same file size as the 45mp Canon R5. Twice the size means slow editing time and time is money. I shoot a lot of corporate events when they want a quick turn around, which the huge file sizes of the A1 would hamper. Then you have the cost, here in the UK, Sony like others hike up the price. My A9, which I've had for three years is unfortunately really showing its age. If a spend A1 money I would want a camera as rugged as my Canon 1DX, which I had for 5 years and still worked perfectly. If Sony do come up with a A9 that's a cross between the A1 and A7RV with 30ish MP it would be my perfect camera. We will have to wait and see. I just hope my A9 holds up
@@nickwilliams7867 Some great thoughts here Nick. I also shoot a lot of corporate events with an A7IV currently. I need a new body to replace my aging A7III and am disappointed that there isn't a perfect camera for folks like us. I hope the A9III solves a lot of these problems, but I also need it do be *as* capable if not more capable in video department than the A7IV.
Magic... I don't disagree with you statement re: a7rv... but you focused only the 61 mp being overkill. So, there are a few other features to still consider this camera over the a7iv; EVF, Rear Screen (both durability/functional usability & resolution), Next Gen AF, dual CF/SD card slots, Next Gen AWB, Better IBIS, - just to name a few... I plan to use the a7riv and shoot in 26 mp most of the time and change to 61 for detail / landscape shots.
Yup Agreed 100%.. That’s exactly how I use my A7RIV … it’s like 2 cameras in one!!
The problem with mRAW is you can't apply Adobe's Denoise AI or DxO's DeepPRIME noise reduction to those high-ISO files that need it.
The best way way to look at the A7RV is its versatility which completes with the A1. If you need low-light MRaw bam. You need high res bam. You need extreme low light SRAW. The camera let's you focus on what you shooting with out you needing to think about it.
Sorry, I tested the A7RV and the low light is in all RAW siszes horrible. Sony has some extreme problems with it's shadows. Just try to push the shadows a little bit, and it's full of strange pixels, that can't be corrected from Lightroom. In Capture One, it can reduce single pixels but in Lightroom, the files fall completely apart.
I dont think shooting MRaw or SRaw will have any affect on the noise performance.
@@nickwilliams7867 but when you dowsize is normal to ''clean'' th file.
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@@infrarouge75 not sure you understood what I was saying.
@@Benjamin_Jehneow low or in what level of dark scenario is the light test.. What ISO setting did you use? What lens?
Hi Magic. Would you shoot a Sony A9 and Sony A7 IV together for event photography.
Sure I would! I did that couple of times with no issues. It's just my personal preference to have 2 identical cameras when shooting weddings.
Hi Magic, great vid! thanks for spending time on this. At 10.47 I thought your med RAWs were a bit small. So I took two rounds of RAWs with A1 in daytime scene, and got around 100MB uncompressed, 60MB for loss large, 38-33MB for loss med, 30-27MB loss small, 54MB compressed, 44MB APSC uncompressed, 30-28MB APSC loss med, 29-28MB APSC loss small, 23MB APSC compressed. I got higher MP for my medium lossless RAWs of 38-33MB, which is also a sweet spot for me for events. Can you tell us what scene you took to get 21MP for med RAWs. Thanks
Hey! Just to clarify - MP value does not change depending on compression. Medium Raw is always 21 megapixels, meaning pixel dimension of the image is: 5616×3744 pixels. You can check all the files and you’ll see all medium raws are this big. The MB value you’re getting is just the file size, which can depend on many variables of the scene itself - how many black pixels, what colors etc.
@@MagicWeddingPhotographer stupid me rookie error, i was getting the MP and MB mixed up! :( Anyway hope useful to the readers knowing the file sizes :)
@@kitminlee9169 no worries! It’s a great comment to clarify stuff to others and to know how different file sizes in MB can be!
No mention of ISO performance and dynamic range.
Im with Sony A7 IV and happy
What do you think of the a7c as a second camera for wedding photography? Using the a7iv as the main camera.
Technically - a great backup camera as it will produce images as good as A7III and has great AF. Main downsides in my opinion are one card slot and not great ergonomics (missing joystick, c buttons and tiny evf). If these are deal breakers I’d rather have a7iii as backup (even used one). But if you are shooting with one main camera and just need something in the bag “just in case”, and you’re pretty confident about shooting with 1 card slot :) then it’s a great option.
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Thanks for the advice! I will look into the a7iii as well. Right now my main camera is the a7iv. I will go find a local sony store and try out the a7c on display and see if the missing features you mentioned are deal breakers or not.
Otherwise, a7iii on the used market now is a much better deal instead. And also theres rumors the a7cii is coming out in 2023.
Thank you Magic. It has been a joy to me finding out your journal as I am working on building up my own wedding photography business. Your videos of talking with differences between different focal lengths, introducing different cameras about their strengths and differences. All make a huge difference into how I buy my gear, practicing my shots, and help me to decide what lenses and gears I need to bring when I am out doing a shoot right now for free.
I still have a long way to go. Theres a lot of work to be done. But having you along with the journey has helped me a great deal. And make me feel great and the journey much easier as a sony shooter because of your content. Keep up the good work! Thank you!
Like everyone else. A9III is basically the one we're all waiting for.
Which is funny because Canon has already done that with the R6 Mark II. Yeah it's 24mp but it literally ticks all of the other boxes and it's priced well.
Lenses however is a different story.
The Canon R6 series does not have a stacked sensor if I'm not mistaken? So how has "Canon already done that with the R6 Mark II"? Seems like a major point if you ask me. But yeah, the 40 fps is impressive. Though 75 RAW max buffer is the bottleneck here.
Personally I think it'll be interesting what Canon does with the R5 Mark II (though it's not the direct competition to the A9 series). Honestly I'm also hoping for a 33mp sensor and something in the 30-40 fps while surpassing the A1/A7rV autofocus. Also the Viewfinder and screen will be important for me. I feel like the screen is such a let down considering the A1. Also I hope for the right amount of BIT for the video function! It could be a less expensive, more photocentric, less MP version of the A1 (or A1II).
While it's beautiful to have so many options, I also feel a bit overwhelmed sometimes haha :-)
I use my a7riv for the for my couples and group shots after the ceremony. Then i use my A9 during the ceremony because its great for low light and its quiet. Then i use both my a9 and a7iv for the reception. 10fps from the a7iv is plenty. I turn my a9 down cuz I don’t need 20fps during a wedding. But before I bought the A7iv i used the a7riv in apsc mode for the reception. It’s really a two and one camera because you don’t need those large files for everything. I did that a couple times and it was just taking up too much storage. It was unnecessary even though the photos were nice and detailed, so are the a7iv photos are just as well detailed. But I do like the new flip out screen on a7iv and more than likely will get rid of my. A7riv for the new a7rv.
I would be happy if they came out with a A9iii with a stacked a7iv 33mp sensor, 30fps, 4k 120p, a flip out screen like the new A7r5, and dual C-fast type B cards(yes TYPE B CARDS) i would be a happy happy. Hey i can dream. I wanted the A1 but was not happy with no flip out screen and its shitty back screen. Come on for that much money it definitely should’ve came with a higher resolution back screen.
Nice comment Great use scenario and advice!!! Although I wouldn’t have worried about shutter sound at all.. Your not going to be firing off 10 frames a second during mid ceremony.. But if you got ‘‘em use ‘em!!! lol
Do you use the A9 v1? How do you like it on 2023?
@@JohnnyMcPro yes I still use the A9 v1 to this day. I use it mostly in electronic shutter for my weddings and all my racing action shots. It don't miss. It's eye AF still works great and will get the job done. And I own the new a7rv and the a7iv and the A9 will still find focus faster then both of them. The a7rv and a7iv find eye AF from farther distances and might have more bells and whistles. But my A9 will be in my bag until it breaks.
The only thing I don't like about the a9 is it's God awful loud mechanical shutter. Yeah it's loud. But when I attach a speedlight on top of it and they are dancing in very low light at weddings, the a9 finds focus where I can barely see them with my eyes. I don't know how it does it but it does. I am really impressed with the A9. And if they come out with a version 3 I can only imagine how impressive it will be now. I don't always want all those megapixels. But it's a camera that will get the job done even though it is 6 years old 7 years old. It's impressive
@@LMActionsports Amazing! I am new to Sony as a long-time Canon shooter and will probably pickup a used A9 to enter the Sony world. How is the image quality at high ISOs on the A9?
@@JohnnyMcPro I switch from Nikon mirrorless over to SONY. I went to buy the Sony a7riv and they had a used one of it and a used Sony a9. I tested out the a7riv first and it worked nice then I picked up the a9 and noticed how fast it focused immediately. And I was almost tempted on buying it first because it focused so quickly but I bought the R4 for the higher megapixels. But a month later I found a screaming deal off of KEH for an a9 that had 2400 on the shutter count for $1900 almost 2 1/2 years ago. And it will do anything taking picture wise that these newer cameras do without the extra bells and whistles. I after switching to Sony I dumped the rest of my Nikon gear for a nice selection of lenses third-party. I’m curious what camera you were using canon that you are thinking about switching to Sony? And for how does the A9 do at high ISO. I’m probably not the right person to ask that question because I hate all cameras or anything over 700 ISO. I guess you can call me a pixel peeper and if I see the slightest bit of noise I think the picture is terrible. And that’s on me I shouldn’t look at it like that maybe I got a little chemical in balance lol. But if I went and zoom in looking for noise the images are probably just fine all the way up to 5000 ISO. It but I’ll said and done i wont part with my a9 cuz its that good.
Hi Legend!... I have alwqays wondered, say you use an A1, you know it is not strong in low light, would you consider using a A7IV for low light times and then the A1 for other? I always wondered if it would just not work because of the megapixel, look of the two cameras that you cold not consistently process the different camera photos to make it work when processing. But I also wished I could get those low light camera benefits of less noise that the lower megapixel camera's get. Anyone who has a thought would be appreciated here! Thanks all!
Lots of good questions here. Wishing there were replies.
The A1, A7RIV, and A7RV are all fantastic at low light.. Just have to use a faster wider aperture lens… or prime lenses with low F stop to increase light performance… in combination with higher ISO… Sony camera have great high iso performance, to a degree, and if not pushed too high.. Also finding and adding light in creative ways helps…😂
The A7IV is awesome, but it will sometimes front focus with Continuous Eye AF and aperture drive on. I'm wondering if it might be my Sony 85mm f/1.8 that's the issue? A nice, to-the-point vid explaining the relevant camera differences. Thanks!
Does it happen with any other lenses?
If the camera shows the green box on the eye it should be in focus so I'd assume it's the lens (which isn't the newest but also not very old)
The a7iv latest firmware was supposed to fix that issue... Is that still on-going?
@Magic Wedding Photographer I'm switching from the Nikon Z7 (chasing better AF) so the Sony 85 1.8 is my first and only lens and the A7IV is my one and only Sony body.
I've tried everything - the firmware is updated to V1.11, changing aperture drive settings, Mark Galer said to try switching off EFCS and that did nothing.
The camera shows the green box around the eye and tracking is pretty sticky.
My shooting scenario is studio strobe shots under led modelling lamps, f 4.0, tethered to C1. Corporate head shots and group shots. I can see the random front-focus problem on screen as I'm shooting. I end up switching to MF!
I'm hoping it is a lens thing, so I'm going to grab the Sony 35mm 1.4 GM and see if that works better in low light. If not, the A7IV will go back to Sony Australia for repair or replacement.
If I can't trust the camera in a controlled studio environment, how stressful would it be to use it for weddings?!
Thanks for the input everyone, I appreciate it! 👍👍
@@adamwestphoto the 35GM never lets me down!
Can you not shoot medium raw on the A7R5 for weddings, just use the 61mp for crop mode.
Haha.. yup😂
я понял - надо покупать Canon R6m2 или Canon R5! PS: у меня Canon R5 😉
Good Summary. The non stacked sensors like in my RV are outdated. The firmware policy is horrible. The gameboy screen of the A1, too. Completly agree with you. The A1is too expensive for such a bad firmware policy and this awful screen. But I stilll think that the screen from my RV is outdated as well. Think of Sony as a mobile phone producer. They should be delievering much higher quality, never mind the downside of losing battery power.
Nobody’s talking about electronic front curtain messing up bokeh with fast shutter speeds. 🤷♂️
I feel like it’s very important.
I got upgraded my a9 to a1 and not a7rv only because of that.
Interesting thought actually. I did a video on e front curtain shutter but didn’t realize it’s different on A1. Did you do 1:1 comparison on A1 vs A9 on fast shutter speeds?
If don’t know what you want… how about A7c?
I wouldn't say the A7iv is an "all arounder" camera. Landscape and portrait, OK. But not for sports. The best hit rate I got for people running in cloudy conditions is 70%. And that's in flexible spot at 6 FPS. Wide zone eye detect at 8 FPS leaves you 70% misfocused pictures while tracking works perfectly.
Have you tried real time tracking for sports?
@@martinruiz398 What do you mean (what mode)?
@@benoittissier58 make sure you are in AF-C, auto focus mode will be "Spot Tracking" with tracking sensitivity set to 1 (locked on). Also have eye autofocus enabled and as long as you place the spot on what you want to track and half press it will lock on the eye like glue.
@@martinruiz398 These are exactly my settings. The AF box does stick on the face... in the EVF. But pictures are actually misfocused. Duade Paton found a similar behaviour when he tested the A6700.
If you need flash speed....
Actually I think best one is the most expensive one that you can afford :)
Haha I know that applies to musical instrument, so they don’t limit you. But not sure if cameras work the same way 😂 wanna shoot weddings with some medium format 80mp bricks? 😂
@@MagicWeddingPhotographer I guess if you can afford those Hasselblad bricks then you don't need to shoot weddings anymore 🤣
sony a1 doesn't have the 7 year old screen, it should have but don't. I know it because I have the a1 and a7riv too and this should be the same screen (look at the specs) but the a1 screen is so much better... and the Sony logo isn't on the display like the new screens like a7Riv-A with higher resolution, so Im sure the a1 has the higher resolution from a7Riv-A. next thing, the a7iv screen should be bad with this specs but its the same as the r6ii from detail and resolution. but on the specs it should be bad. I don't know what Sony is doing with their screens but they don't give us the screens they say on the paper
So A7iii can shoot 10fps uncompressed and A7IV can only shoot 6fps? wow
What I really don't understand in your presentation is, you absolutly don't talk about high ISO performance and thats something you have to talk about, when you talk about weddings or events in general. An what wonder, non of the new models would be the pick. After all this years the A7III is the camera to go for, when you want the best overall image quality, if the 24mpix is enough for you.
The A7RV is completely out, as it's high ISO performance is even worse than the A7RIV. Also the A1 isn't that great in high ISO performance. If you're someone who shoots most of the time with available light, this camera might not be your camera. Also the tilty-flippy screen slows you down, if you're mainly a photographer.
For me personal, the A7RIII (A) is still the best camera to go for. It's ISO performance is way way way better than the A7RV and also the A1. And I prefer this sensor over the 33mpix sensor of the A7IV. I use the APS-C crop mode so much, it's like two cameras in one and the 33mpix sensor is not enough for that. The A7RV would've been perfect camera, but the high ISO performance is just horrible. Just try to push the shadows at ISO 6400. It's horrible.
I use the electronic shutter almost the whole time and yes, sometimes you have to be careful with LED banding, but it's so far away from beeing unusable, that I really have to scratch my head, what about you're talking. I wanted to buy a new camera in terms of taxes for 2022, but I was shocked, that we're going backwards in ISO performance. Something I would never ever except for event and weddings. The new A7RV screen is genius and the new AF systems are very nice, but you can't replace image quality with a nicer screen or AF. If I had to buy a new camera now, I would definitly go for the A7RIII A, the version with the old 42mpix sensor, but the new 2mio screen. And if you just want a back up body, buy the A7III. Save the money and get some better image quality even comapred to the A7IV.
I think if they the put the 42MP sensor in the Rv body it would sell very well.
@@nickwilliams7867 I would be the first to buy it. Now it’s the best body with the weakest Sensor.
The 60 MP sensor is natively more noisy because the image pixel photo sites have to be smaller… Similar to film grain.. Lower ISO film is smaller film grain.. (higher detail) Larger ISO means larger film grain crystals… (lower detail)This is similar to camera sensors … So the quality of a sensor is relative to the size of the photo sites pixels on the sensor itself … High Megapixers= smaller photosites or pixel size on full frame sensor.. Lower Megapixel= larger photo sites or pixel size… Larger photo sites on a sensor are more sensitive to light and gather more light info thus having better low light performance… Whereas smaller photosites on a full frame sensor gather less light at the cost of high resolution or higher mega pixels… I faster lens in combination with higher iso is needed for a high res camera of 40-60 megapixels in low light conditions… So a 60 MP camera will not perform as well in low light as a 30MP camera… For low light, the A7IV with fast lens is optimal… But when you need higher resolution in brighter scenarios the A7RIV or A7RV comes in handy… For weddings I would take two cameras… One that is good in low light and the other for higher resolution for outdoor or well lit indoor group shots..
@@djrease7354 Ohh come on, no one needs that education lesson. And I don’t follow your argumentation, as this would just be the case for the same generation of sensors without any further development.
Best example is the A7RI with it’s 36mpix sensor compared to the 42mipx sensor of the A7RII/RIII that was as real jump in image quality, as you would expect, when you compare an old sensor to a new developed one. The same for the old 24mpix sensor of the A7I/II compared to the A7III generation.
It’s not just about the size of each photodiode, today it’s about the hardware and the software behind it.
The problem with the 60mpix sensor is, that there was no further developement, they just wanted a 60mpix sensor but the tech wasn’t ready for it in the A7RIV. Now the processors are there, but the software is still not on the level as it would be needed, to get that sensor under control. It’s the opposite, the files look even worse than those of the A7RIV.
Canon was blamed for the baked in noise reduction in the Canon R5, but the files look great at high ISOs. So if you want high mpix, you need a better internal noise reduction, to help the converters to get the noise on a normal level.
To make it short, if you’re not able to provide the same or better noise performance as the last generation, don’t bring the camera.
@@Benjamin_Jehne great argument you make here.. I agree it is about the hardware to process the data from the high MP sensors… But all in all to keep it pain and simple, these high res sensors just need more light to operate.. There is no getting around it..!!! But I digress.. Thanks I love good arguments.. I appreciate the feedback!! Cheers🍺🍺🍺…
Fixed the title for you.
The BEST Fony Camera for Wedding Photography in 2023 - A7IV vs A7RV vs A9II vs A1
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It's not just painful. It's also scandalous.
The best for weddings is still the A7 III.
It’s a great budget option, but I wouldn’t call it the best for weddings. The performance difference is too big between A7III and A7IV
big cap
@@MagicWeddingPhotographer Who wants 33 Mp for weddings?
@@TP-Fotografie I want 😂
@@TP-Fotografie who want's a less reliable AF, worse video, screen, evf, IBIS, sd cards etc if you have the choice? The resolution is a nice spec bump and doesn't really needs a lot of storage (dpreview says the difference for uncompressed RAW is 5mb)
for me sony a1 is just awful for that price.
I have a Sony A7 IV before the genocidal full-scale russian invasion, and you've expressed exactly my feelings regarding all these other Sony cameras. Sometimes it feels like I should have bought Sony A1, but Sony A7 IV gave me an understanding of what I want from a camera, and Canon R3 is the only camera which matches the requirements. Unfortunately, it will be mentally hard to switch when you've invested in native prime lenses. Also, Canon does some dirty stuff regarding 3rd-part lens manufacturers. Also, russian Canon office has organised an illegal trip to Crimea, and this is why I'll never buy Canon.
There’s no more sony A73 space here 🥲
It's not mentioned, but it's still the best bang for the buck. It's always interesting to listen to people what is not possible with a camera but others did it for years and proof them wrong.
@@Benjamin_Jehne im still doing wedding photos with my A7iii and A7ii for back up 😄 obviously i’m preffer to have something more “new” but works great for me.
@@jcastillofotos Even if you want something better, you would get a better AF, but thats it.