IMO, Moorish Idols and Copperband Butterflies have a lot issues with Cyanide being used to catch these fish from the wild. Most of the time they will die even with high fiber diets. Now Elliot mentioned about his moorish being in juveniles stage. maybe they have a different ways of catching them at that stage, but at adult these fish are a huge gamble. they can make it out of QT eating healthy with lots of nori, and then flatline in a month.
I kept a group of 6 green chromis in a 75 gallon for several years with no issues. I wish I could take credit for the success but it was purely accidental and all down my a-hole flame angel. As Elliot alluded to here, the chomis stuck together to avoid being picked on by the angel and the angel wasn't brave enough to take on the group. I've since removed the chromis during a move to a bigger tank and the angel is back to being his top tier a-hole self.
I'm setting up a new 180. New to saltwater. I've binged BRStv. You 2 are my favorite guests Ryan has had. I haven't filled the tank yet. I'm concerned regarding the most basic stuff. How to mix the salt water and what to do if you don't have it right? How picky do I really need to be? I've had many fresh tanks and I learned that stability was way more important than chasing precise numbers. New to marine, though.
46:40 here in Brazil this happens a lot with marine fish but, talking about collected fresh water fish specially tetras, they are collected and sold for cents and treated like they worth nothing at all.
Random question, 24:49 - what are the small white dots on that Copperband Butterfly’s tail? I see very similar dots on my Tang and I don’t believe it’s ich or velvet
Personally i think moorish idols are very easy to get eating initially, almost all healthy ones I bought in the past all ate instantly. The hard part is to get them back up on their feet and get them thriving, mostly larger tanks and constantly feeding help a lot I think, the sponge frozen food in memory is from ocean nutrition, it has some sponge in it but its not cost effective and the amount of sponge is not going to satisfy the idols, so just keep feeding nori, hikari seaweed extreme or sometimes you can add some boiled wongbok or lettuce on a clip as well
I have 2 green chromis in a 40 gallon that I’ve had for over 4 years. I started out with 3 but one refused to eat. They eat pellets and are healthy. I can’t say they are any harder to keep than my clownfish.
I had a hard time with Achilles tang because they were very small 2-3 inches and was so shy and would really eat so I purchased a 4”-6”which completely changed the outlook and 3 years later is 7” and a model citizen but they must must must have algae then you train them on whatever you want to feed them but from time to time it really like when I turn all 5 MP60’s on constant 100%
I've been keeping fish since 1980s as a kid and now in 47 and I have kept almost every single fish u can commonly get that some are not meant for captivity, period! People are willing to risk an animal on someone's ambitions.
Had Zanclus cornutus vor 2 years, sold him healthy due to eating my corals… prefered cyphastrea, acans, symph, but also monti and acro…very unproblematic if fed with algae and mysis mostly, 1000 ltr tank is to small btw. At wholesale they are fed with whole mussels Now i have acanthurus Achilles since 1,5 year, had little problems in the beginning, but now hes thriving🤷♂️ same like all other acanthurus, must have algae, must have space, and if possible no stress.
Awesome video Than and Elliot! Tons of excellent info and some real reality checks in here for the hobbyist. We need so much more of this. I hope it’s clear that Ryan at BRS often portrays a level of reef keeping that most people, including him and the pros he has on staff, are not really ready for or capable of. Also, there are LOTS of exceptions to the rule in the comments! Getting a lucky draw at the LFS and perhaps some above-average husbandry accounts for most of this success. The other 99% of those particular species died in transit, at the wholesaler, in the LFS or in a private aquarium if they made it that far.
How do people feel about taking these fish out of the wild. I'm not too thrilled about it. I recently went snorkeling on the GBR and saw alot of big fat copperbands and it makes me feel awful that people are removing them and putting them in their aquarius (where they will likely die sooner than later). I guess work needs to be done on breeding them. Please choose captive bread over wild caught and leave these wild fish where they belong.
There are formulas you can find with what you would need to sterilize the water for fish pathogens. It is a combination of water flow through the UV, the power of the UV, and the overall size of the system. To sterilize you want to have slower flow through the unit to maximize exposure to UV, but you need a large enough unit that you can get enough tank turnover volume at those lower flow rates.
had a friend who had a moorish idol for a few years, he said the secret was keeping insanely dirty live rock because he said they spend literally all day grazing, and also they do better if you mush mysis and such on the rock for them to peck at
I don't understand. The Harlequin Filefish are incredibly trainable, they'll take to Masstick, clam, frozen food. Why are they considered impossible then?
Silicone in aquariums. Does it really matter if it is pure silicone or silicone with "anti-fungal additives"? Has anyone tested it, and if so, is there a video on the results?
@@PedroGuerreiro-fq3my i think you talk out of expirience😅 I have some videos online, actual ive breed fridmani, clownfish and kauderni… so show me some more than an 1year old CZcams account with no content and i believe you 😉 😘
I love how Than says quick top 10 and then I see "51 minute playtime"
The list is quick. Its all the talking inbetween that took all the time
I've had a Hawaiian Spotted boxfish for 5 years. Super chill fish and biggest personality in our reef!
IMO, Moorish Idols and Copperband Butterflies have a lot issues with Cyanide being used to catch these fish from the wild. Most of the time they will die even with high fiber diets. Now Elliot mentioned about his moorish being in juveniles stage. maybe they have a different ways of catching them at that stage, but at adult these fish are a huge gamble. they can make it out of QT eating healthy with lots of nori, and then flatline in a month.
I kept a group of 6 green chromis in a 75 gallon for several years with no issues. I wish I could take credit for the success but it was purely accidental and all down my a-hole flame angel. As Elliot alluded to here, the chomis stuck together to avoid being picked on by the angel and the angel wasn't brave enough to take on the group. I've since removed the chromis during a move to a bigger tank and the angel is back to being his top tier a-hole self.
Gotta love flame angels, ey
I love these two. Than with great vids and Elliot is incredible. I’ve spoken with him and his team several times, they are amazing.
Hey Than, heres a great video. Lets see whats in Elliots personal collection along with a tour of his shop.
I'm setting up a new 180. New to saltwater. I've binged BRStv. You 2 are my favorite guests Ryan has had.
I haven't filled the tank yet. I'm concerned regarding the most basic stuff. How to mix the salt water and what to do if you don't have it right? How picky do I really need to be?
I've had many fresh tanks and I learned that stability was way more important than chasing precise numbers.
New to marine, though.
What a great thumbnail. May the algorithm be with you
I remember when I was like 12 and I was first looking into saltwater aquariums, people online recommended them as beginner fish!
46:40 here in Brazil this happens a lot with marine fish but, talking about collected fresh water fish specially tetras, they are collected and sold for cents and treated like they worth nothing at all.
Random question, 24:49 - what are the small white dots on that Copperband Butterfly’s tail? I see very similar dots on my Tang and I don’t believe it’s ich or velvet
Personally i think moorish idols are very easy to get eating initially, almost all healthy ones I bought in the past all ate instantly. The hard part is to get them back up on their feet and get them thriving, mostly larger tanks and constantly feeding help a lot I think, the sponge frozen food in memory is from ocean nutrition, it has some sponge in it but its not cost effective and the amount of sponge is not going to satisfy the idols, so just keep feeding nori, hikari seaweed extreme or sometimes you can add some boiled wongbok or lettuce on a clip as well
Moorish idols will eat on Feather Dusters for sure. I have also had my Moorish Idols on a Romain Lettuce for years.
Romaine lettuce is an old hack. People don't understand how good it is for fish. Has a protein content as well. Used it for years!
I have 2 green chromis in a 40 gallon that I’ve had for over 4 years. I started out with 3 but one refused to eat. They eat pellets and are healthy. I can’t say they are any harder to keep than my clownfish.
I love my Copperband that I got from Elliot he's the star of my tank
I had a hard time with Achilles tang because they were very small 2-3 inches and was so shy and would really eat so I purchased a 4”-6”which completely changed the outlook and 3 years later is 7” and a model citizen but they must must must have algae then you train them on whatever you want to feed them but from time to time it really like when I turn all 5 MP60’s on constant 100%
I've been keeping fish since 1980s as a kid and now in 47 and I have kept almost every single fish u can commonly get that some are not meant for captivity, period! People are willing to risk an animal on someone's ambitions.
Had Zanclus cornutus vor 2 years, sold him healthy due to eating my corals… prefered cyphastrea, acans, symph, but also monti and acro…very unproblematic if fed with algae and mysis mostly, 1000 ltr tank is to small btw. At wholesale they are fed with whole mussels
Now i have acanthurus Achilles since 1,5 year, had little problems in the beginning, but now hes thriving🤷♂️ same like all other acanthurus, must have algae, must have space, and if possible no stress.
What about Stethojulis wrasses?
Amazing video Than! Love all the content that has been coming out!
Ive mixed fish with prime and coppersafe/ copperpower many times! Now cupramine is a different form of cppper. Is that what u mean?
This was interesting. Cause i never had much lucky with the Rhomboid Wrasse.
I have a moorish idol 5yrs and going strong
Top three podcast wrt to seating 😜
Awesome video Than and Elliot! Tons of excellent info and some real reality checks in here for the hobbyist. We need so much more
of this. I hope it’s clear that Ryan at BRS often portrays a level of reef keeping that most people, including him and the pros he has on staff, are not really ready for or capable of.
Also, there are LOTS of exceptions to the rule in the comments! Getting a lucky draw at the LFS and perhaps some above-average husbandry accounts for most of this success. The other 99% of those particular species died in transit, at the wholesaler, in the LFS or in a private aquarium if they made it that far.
How do people feel about taking these fish out of the wild. I'm not too thrilled about it. I recently went snorkeling on the GBR and saw alot of big fat copperbands and it makes me feel awful that people are removing them and putting them in their aquarius (where they will likely die sooner than later). I guess work needs to be done on breeding them. Please choose captive bread over wild caught and leave these wild fish where they belong.
Great video.
Would a UV-clarifier help with ich and other fish parasites (looking at the new sicce one) or would I need a UV-sterilizer?
There are formulas you can find with what you would need to sterilize the water for fish pathogens. It is a combination of water flow through the UV, the power of the UV, and the overall size of the system. To sterilize you want to have slower flow through the unit to maximize exposure to UV, but you need a large enough unit that you can get enough tank turnover volume at those lower flow rates.
Yes, and also ozon helps a lot by reducing bakteria and parasites(larvae), better look for deltec or if possible wiegandt!
had a friend who had a moorish idol for a few years, he said the secret was keeping insanely dirty live rock because he said they spend literally all day grazing, and also they do better if you mush mysis and such on the rock for them to peck at
What is your mixture of methylene blue to water? 12:07 time stamp
I don't understand. The Harlequin Filefish are incredibly trainable, they'll take to Masstick, clam, frozen food. Why are they considered impossible then?
Cuz most casual hobbyist don’t know how or don’t want to train fish, and it’s challenging and daunting for newcomers
Silicone in aquariums.
Does it really matter if it is pure silicone or silicone with "anti-fungal additives"?
Has anyone tested it, and if so, is there a video on the results?
You want to go with pure silicone.
Illbruck GS202 is what we use in Germany, was sold as perrenator previous.
Lol, there are entire generations like. What is a CD?
What is crazy is that CD's are starting to degrade and become unreadable because it's been 30+ years for some of them.
Don't be cocky about keeping a fish like a weedy sea dragon when you've only had it a month and half.
This industry and hobby have always been slaughter houses at its core and it isn't getting better.
Simply not true… dejong meanwhile is going strong with tank bred. Noone will sell fish if all die?
@@gocedimoski728 It's unfortunately true. 1 year after captivity, more than 90% of the animals are dead.
@@PedroGuerreiro-fq3my maybe in your Tank?
@@gocedimoski728 I haven't bought any fish in 4 years, my fish are just getting old.
Unlike you, I treat them like pets, not consumables.
@@PedroGuerreiro-fq3my i think you talk out of expirience😅
I have some videos online, actual ive breed fridmani, clownfish and kauderni… so show me some more than an 1year old CZcams account with no content and i believe you 😉 😘
Was it implied that you (elliot) are extra wealthy to be able to go down this rabbit hole? (17:20)
Not reliant on this biz for primary income
21 views in 4 minutes bro fell off :((((
Why do you do things like this?
Not as bad as being a hater on youtube comments. Clown.