I tire. ‘When a woman sleeps with more than one man within her ovulation period’.. Ogbeni, the woman is unfaithful, the woman is cheating, the woman is promiscuous
This is exactly what you would expect in a matriarchal society like the USA but this is shocking to see this kind of evil being accepted and normalized in Africa. Is Nigeria not truly a patriarchal society after all?
When men argue that women are not supposed to cheat because of paternity questions, women will start saying that if men can cheat, the can cheat also. Women forget that when a rat and a lizard jumps into the river, there skin won't dry at the same time. When a man has sex with multiple women and he is the only man who has sex with those women, there will never be a confusion about the father of the children. When a woman slept with multiple men, the paternity of her child will always be in question. I don't care if I have ten children, but the day I find out that one of them is not mine, that will be the end of the marriage. I always tell men to do a dna test on each of your child immediately the child is born. Never have unprotected sex with your after she gave birth without making sure that the child she born is yours. You can do the dna test secretly without your wife knowing. This doesn't mean you don't your wife. It simply means you are making sure that the trust you have in her is a misplaced. President Reagan once said "Trust but verify." Verify the paternity of each of your children or regret it later.
Great conversation. I do not think we can have a one size fit all prescription. I would suggest that for conversations like this one should have a poll sample base (interview the populace). This would create a wider base for your perspectives. You would be surprised at how much insights and even experiences that would be shared. Great job. I do not think i have the strength for this kind of drama.
Smart man but don’t tell your wife. If she is an Angel and she finds out that you don’t trust her your marriage is dead. She will revenge or cheat or not forgive you in a long time. Be smart about the approach. I always tell a woman that I will do DNA tests on ever child I ever father. Not because I don’t trust that woman but because it’s mandatory for me. You also learn health benefits and stuffs to avoid plus possible early warning signs to give a child a better life from birth to their old age by doing a dna test. I did one for myself too.
@@julianaekeh1311 This is not about trust, it is about not being stupid in this day and age. A baby can be swapped in an hospital by accident or by a very mischievous person. An early DNA test before leaving the hospital guarantees that you went home with a direct descendant of your ancestor. Where I am from, that is as important as the universe or religion itself. Also on the plus side you learn about your child early and can help them to reach their full potential as a better informed parent.
I found it appalling that the host/hosts and the guests are talking over each other and we the audience can't really know who is saying what. They are discussing the products of infidelity, immorality and lost of values. But what are the root causes and forces that gripped those involved in this type of reproduction to desperation? What happened to IDENTY? The children born as consequences of this immorality have rights to know their TRUE IDENT. Today's women and men are loose. But men's nature is different from women's nature. Men will always go out to other ladies so as to assure himself of his male ego. Assuming that one of the partners i.e. the husband and wife cannot reproduce for one reason or the other and as long as there is love in their relationship, they should try adoption. There are many kids suffering and in children's homes. The children could be adopted and given a new opportunity to experience a family life than growing up in an institution.
Firstly I don't think the case of Mary and Joseph in the scripture can be compare to the different examples you have talked about. There was no infidelity in the case of Mary and that was why Joseph accepted to shield and protect her base on the counsel of the holy spirit. Then secondly in my own opinion if something like this should happen I think the wife should summon the courage to inform her husband or her potential husband. The onions is on the man to decide if he still want to go ahead knowing all the variables involve but at least he know what he's dealing with. Because if the woman decides to keep it a secret sooner or later the truth will come out and the inevitable shame will befall her. I think sin thrives in secrecy, I understand it is a difficult and tough call to make but informing the man earlier makes him take responsibility if he wants to father the baby or not. That for me will reduce this whole paternity fraud that we're hearing today.
It is better everyone knows. The pain is highly reduced when someone knows the situation, they are making a decision based on reality, truth not lies. If the decision is based on lies, it means one sees someone is foolish. So, tell the truth.
Scatterung everything is better. The right pieces will be put together and life starts for everyone. Truth is necessary to be told, good for everyone, children can handle every issue. If they can handle fughts and arguements in the home, everything can be resolved by facts. Deceipt is tge worst possible thing of any human being
First and foremost we need to promote safe sex. That’s problem number 1. I can only imagine how bad our stats for STDs and STIs are. Second, ppl need to understand that the due date the Dr gives is not always inaccurate. If you have had a different partner within a 2 month window just have a test.
Let’s also know that children have right to live, love and appreciate! Sex is a very big word and meaning! The consequences should be more enlightened…it takes two to react!! Knowing and forgiveness is alive!!!🤔🙏🏾
There's absolutely no harm in knowing the truth.... Most are going to turn out exactly like they would w/o the test... But 1 in 3 however have an opportunity to get to male gst decision. Why should anyone even have to make such a decision? You can still decide to stay and raise the baby....but by not being coerced or manipulated into doing it fraudulently. 22:26
Reuben, you are missing the point. Have you travelled to a place with the intention to go back with limited resources at hand, suddenly the flight is cancelled? It worse than being in Sudan. Government should be made to responsible.
How does a woman sleep with two men within her ovulation period and wish the pregnancy is for a preferred man?. Why sleep with two men in the first instance!. Eba mi
It seems you forget that the favorite sin of Nigerians is hypocrisy. More so, whenever it's a matter of injustice against men, the world generally believes it's not that bad. Take care of yourself as a man oh, NOBODY except your mother (if she's a good one) will do it for you unconditionally.
First, the question is where is there father. Why should you spend your entire life raising another man's child without having the option to say no or yes to it because your wife is wicked enough to hide it from you right from start. Women know who fathered their child and never believe anyone who say otherwise. If another man fathered her child because she cheated, she should tell you so that you can decide whether you want your wife's infidelity and dishonesty and take care of a child whose father is probably impregnating other married and non married women as we speak or to count your losses and cut your wife loose and move on. If you want become a foster dad or become the American Red Cross Society, at least let it be your choice or be given the option to say yes or no. Your cheating wife has no right to make that decision for you. Why would any man chose to be angry and miserable for the rest of his life. The day you finds out what your wife did, you will never forgive her or forget about even if you pretend. Deep down inside you, you know you're a dying man. If you leave your wife, with time, you will get over it because it will feel just like another bad break. Stay with her and perish. Women cheat with emotions, men don't. Before a woman sleeps with a man, she must have or developed some sort of feelings for him and if a wife developed a feeling for another man other than her husband, it means she is no longer your wife. You need to let her go. A man can sleep with a woman he don't even like. A man can feel nothing for a woman and still sleep with her just to ease off. A fertile man can impregnate a woman at any age. If she cheats and she is stupid enough to leave evidence that she cheating by having a baby for the man she cheated with, whether she knew or not, let her go. Divorce her!!! Men should stop tolerating this nonsense. No, you are neither doing the world a favor or doing those kids a favor by accepting your wife's dishonesty. It will be better for those kids if you leave because it will force them to look for their real biological father or for them to force their mom to find their true father sooner than later. If you tag along and accept the children, they will find and will forget about you whenever they do because from the moment they find out onward, they will start searching for their real father with utmost convictions that you will become nonexistent to them. You want to raise children that are not yours because your wife forced them upon you and after you're done raising them, immediately they find out you're not their biological father, they will spend the rest of their lives angry and looking for their true father. That's why men should do paternity test on each of their child immediately the child is born so that the child is not his, he can count his losses early on, divorce the woman and move on.
@@joem551 So children that you have known for over 20 years, you think it is that easy to wake and just forget about them? You have developed a form of emotional attachment to them. Remember the children did nothing wrong and they should not suffer for the sins of their mother? The children will see you as Their real father and not the man who abandoned them all these years. I think the minimum any man should do is to continue to take care of the children,
Your data presenting Nigeria with high paternity fraud incidence is not meta analysed. The majority of data on paternity fraud is sourced from intending migrants,, visa lottery which not sample size enough to assert this submission. Other countries do/may not migrate as much as Nigerians do
You people are discussing paternity fraud on national TV without minding that the victims who may be watching arise tv, can realize that they are the ones who are the subject of this conversation on arise tv.
Paternity tests should be made compulsory by law immediately after birth .
A discussion of siblings who mistakenly married because they didn't knew that they are siblings would be a good discourse.
Some consider sexual infidelity as 'modern' and the Bible as outdated, but hear the Master, Jesus Christ, "wisdom is proved right by her children."
Topics like this 😢 gives a simple but profound reminder that : the Bible is true
How?
See how people normalizes fraud by saying it depends
Because it's the women this time. Society finds criticism of women quite unsavory. So sad for the good men out there who are affected by this.
I tire. ‘When a woman sleeps with more than one man within her ovulation period’.. Ogbeni, the woman is unfaithful, the woman is cheating, the woman is promiscuous
This is exactly what you would expect in a matriarchal society like the USA but this is shocking to see this kind of evil being accepted and normalized in Africa. Is Nigeria not truly a patriarchal society after all?
When men argue that women are not supposed to cheat because of paternity questions, women will start saying that if men can cheat, the can cheat also. Women forget that when a rat and a lizard jumps into the river, there skin won't dry at the same time. When a man has sex with multiple women and he is the only man who has sex with those women, there will never be a confusion about the father of the children. When a woman slept with multiple men, the paternity of her child will always be in question. I don't care if I have ten children, but the day I find out that one of them is not mine, that will be the end of the marriage. I always tell men to do a dna test on each of your child immediately the child is born. Never have unprotected sex with your after she gave birth without making sure that the child she born is yours. You can do the dna test secretly without your wife knowing. This doesn't mean you don't your wife. It simply means you are making sure that the trust you have in her is a misplaced. President Reagan once said "Trust but verify." Verify the paternity of each of your children or regret it later.
Great conversation. I do not think we can have a one size fit all prescription. I would suggest that for conversations like this one should have a poll sample base (interview the populace). This would create a wider base for your perspectives. You would be surprised at how much insights and even experiences that would be shared. Great job. I do not think i have the strength for this kind of drama.
Kudos 👍 to arise tv presenter
This is absolutely beautiful thank you all for this 🎉❤
Best topic ever discussed on arise tv. I'm taking my kids for DNA testing tomorrow oooo. Women can do on do 😂😂
Smart man but don’t tell your wife. If she is an Angel and she finds out that you don’t trust her your marriage is dead. She will revenge or cheat or not forgive you in a long time. Be smart about the approach. I always tell a woman that I will do DNA tests on ever child I ever father. Not because I don’t trust that woman but because it’s mandatory for me. You also learn health benefits and stuffs to avoid plus possible early warning signs to give a child a better life from birth to their old age by doing a dna test. I did one for myself too.
You don't trust your wife?
@@julianaekeh1311 I trust my wife to death. I was just kidding
@@julianaekeh1311 u need to verify
@@julianaekeh1311 This is not about trust, it is about not being stupid in this day and age. A baby can be swapped in an hospital by accident or by a very mischievous person. An early DNA test before leaving the hospital guarantees that you went home with a direct descendant of your ancestor. Where I am from, that is as important as the universe or religion itself. Also on the plus side you learn about your child early and can help them to reach their full potential as a better informed parent.
I found it appalling that the host/hosts and the guests are talking over each other and we the audience can't really know who is saying what. They are discussing the products of infidelity, immorality and lost of values. But what are the root causes and forces that gripped those involved in this type of reproduction to desperation? What happened to IDENTY? The children born as consequences of this immorality have rights to know their TRUE IDENT. Today's women and men are loose. But men's nature is different from women's nature. Men will always go out to other ladies so as to assure himself of his male ego. Assuming that one of the partners i.e. the husband and wife cannot reproduce for one reason or the other and as long as there is love in their relationship, they should try adoption. There are many kids suffering and in children's homes. The children could be adopted and given a new opportunity to experience a family life than growing up in an institution.
Firstly I don't think the case of Mary and Joseph in the scripture can be compare to the different examples you have talked about. There was no infidelity in the case of Mary and that was why Joseph accepted to shield and protect her base on the counsel of the holy spirit.
Then secondly in my own opinion if something like this should happen I think the wife should summon the courage to inform her husband or her potential husband. The onions is on the man to decide if he still want to go ahead knowing all the variables involve but at least he know what he's dealing with. Because if the woman decides to keep it a secret sooner or later the truth will come out and the inevitable shame will befall her. I think sin thrives in secrecy, I understand it is a difficult and tough call to make but informing the man earlier makes him take responsibility if he wants to father the baby or not. That for me will reduce this whole paternity fraud that we're hearing today.
It is better everyone knows. The pain is highly reduced when someone knows the situation, they are making a decision based on reality, truth not lies. If the decision is based on lies, it means one sees someone is foolish. So, tell the truth.
What a long name for such a beauty
I did the health and ancestry ones. The health one is very useful for children.
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Scatterung everything is better. The right pieces will be put together and life starts for everyone. Truth is necessary to be told, good for everyone, children can handle every issue. If they can handle fughts and arguements in the home, everything can be resolved by facts. Deceipt is tge worst possible thing of any human being
First and foremost we need to promote safe sex. That’s problem number 1. I can only imagine how bad our stats for STDs and STIs are. Second, ppl need to understand that the due date the Dr gives is not always inaccurate. If you have had a different partner within a 2 month window just have a test.
The story about the same thing happening in the olden days was more common in Yoruba land.
Does the Child not have the right to know ?
The woman in the cerise abi hot pink jacket keeps interrupting her co host
The host in the red talk too much
Paternity fraud: ref; Ned wazobia 2020
Let’s also know that children have right to live, love and appreciate! Sex is a very big word and meaning! The consequences should be more enlightened…it takes two to react!! Knowing and forgiveness is alive!!!🤔🙏🏾
Accidentally?
There's absolutely no harm in knowing the truth.... Most are going to turn out exactly like they would w/o the test... But 1 in 3 however have an opportunity to get to male gst decision. Why should anyone even have to make such a decision? You can still decide to stay and raise the baby....but by not being coerced or manipulated into doing it fraudulently. 22:26
You people have been watching a lot of Nollywood movies. 🤣!
Reuben, you are missing the point. Have you travelled to a place with the intention to go back with limited resources at hand, suddenly the flight is cancelled? It worse than being in Sudan. Government should be made to responsible.
I can never understand men who can't tell their own children from looks and character. Shame!
What are u waffling
Mam shut up😂😂😂
How does a woman sleep with two men within her ovulation period and wish the pregnancy is for a preferred man?. Why sleep with two men in the first instance!. Eba mi
The male rep on this platform is not realistic. Which man will know such thing and live with it. Perhaps he's a victim
omg could you just calm down and listen to each other instead of talking over each other. shameful behaviour.
What the hell are you guys talking about? The problem is that we reward bad behavior.
Please stop and get educated
It seems you forget that the favorite sin of Nigerians is hypocrisy. More so, whenever it's a matter of injustice against men, the world generally believes it's not that bad.
Take care of yourself as a man oh, NOBODY except your mother (if she's a good one) will do it for you unconditionally.
@@Antialoof242 Get educated on what?
@yy zulufee de most please Sir or Madam can you tell us where education is needed in this issue
@@chumamakasi6682 💯💯💯
This world is kaput.
He should not remove the children from the will, Being a father id not just about donating sperm, he is the only father thry have ever known
You're out of your mind. You shouldn't reward bad behavior.
First, the question is where is there father. Why should you spend your entire life raising another man's child without having the option to say no or yes to it because your wife is wicked enough to hide it from you right from start. Women know who fathered their child and never believe anyone who say otherwise. If another man fathered her child because she cheated, she should tell you so that you can decide whether you want your wife's infidelity and dishonesty and take care of a child whose father is probably impregnating other married and non married women as we speak or to count your losses and cut your wife loose and move on. If you want become a foster dad or become the American Red Cross Society, at least let it be your choice or be given the option to say yes or no. Your cheating wife has no right to make that decision for you. Why would any man chose to be angry and miserable for the rest of his life. The day you finds out what your wife did, you will never forgive her or forget about even if you pretend. Deep down inside you, you know you're a dying man. If you leave your wife, with time, you will get over it because it will feel just like another bad break. Stay with her and perish. Women cheat with emotions, men don't. Before a woman sleeps with a man, she must have or developed some sort of feelings for him and if a wife developed a feeling for another man other than her husband, it means she is no longer your wife. You need to let her go. A man can sleep with a woman he don't even like. A man can feel nothing for a woman and still sleep with her just to ease off. A fertile man can impregnate a woman at any age. If she cheats and she is stupid enough to leave evidence that she cheating by having a baby for the man she cheated with, whether she knew or not, let her go. Divorce her!!! Men should stop tolerating this nonsense. No, you are neither doing the world a favor or doing those kids a favor by accepting your wife's dishonesty. It will be better for those kids if you leave because it will force them to look for their real biological father or for them to force their mom to find their true father sooner than later. If you tag along and accept the children, they will find and will forget about you whenever they do because from the moment they find out onward, they will start searching for their real father with utmost convictions that you will become nonexistent to them. You want to raise children that are not yours because your wife forced them upon you and after you're done raising them, immediately they find out you're not their biological father, they will spend the rest of their lives angry and looking for their true father. That's why men should do paternity test on each of their child immediately the child is born so that the child is not his, he can count his losses early on, divorce the woman and move on.
@@joem551 So children that you have known for over 20 years, you think it is that easy to wake and just forget about them? You have developed a form of emotional attachment to them. Remember the children did nothing wrong and they should not suffer for the sins of their mother?
The children will see you as Their real father and not the man who abandoned them all these years.
I think the minimum any man should do is to continue to take care of the children,
@@femi2873u be bastard😂😂
@@femi2873stop rewarding bad behaviour
Your data presenting Nigeria with high paternity fraud incidence is not meta analysed.
The majority of data on paternity fraud is sourced from intending migrants,, visa lottery which not sample size enough to assert this submission. Other countries do/may not migrate as much as Nigerians do
You people are discussing paternity fraud on national TV without minding that the victims who may be watching arise tv, can realize that they are the ones who are the subject of this conversation on arise tv.
Pronounce the last of your doubled barrelled name properly - Oniru! What are you ashamed of?