Why I'm No Longer with TKOR
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- čas přidán 30. 12. 2021
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Hi Nate, I'd just like to say that I really enjoyed TKOR until around 3 months into covid and I just sort of started feeling that the channel wasn't staying true to what Grant wanted and I feel that thats not in anyway yours or the teams fault. I think that youtube becoming more corporate was the downfall of the channel and that did upset me and I left a comment saying this on one of the videos but I'd just like to let you know that I don't blame you or the team for that. Hope your well!!!
Hey Nate, not really video suggestion ideas, but colab ideas, first which is a no-brainer working with Calli again (and hopefully Mark as well) other colab ideas are Evan and Katlyn, Bobby Duke Arts, Jazza, The slow mo guys (use to see that 1 get suggested a lot in tkor vids) 5 minute crafts (im joking on that 1 by the way had to have a laugh), if i think of more I'll add them in :) but for sure Calli/Mark and Evan and Katlyn with Bobby duke would be at the top of my list i'd love to see
Alec Steele is a really great blacksmithing youtuber based in the UK. I would check him out if you want more blacksmithing or bladesmithing content he is the man.
Let's make some knives
Not sure if you and calli know, but there is a fun game called timberborn yall may find enjoyable for gaming. Thanks for explaining what happened. I hope tkor does a video since yall were the face for so long.
This is the story of how TKOR went from enthusiast builds and genuine questions and experiments to a content farm and slowly heading to 5-minutes craft level and we are all here to witness it's transformation
It sucks how the channel went backwards :(
I remember how I was addicted to Grant's content in 2013. Sucks how bland the channel is now. The start of the channel-2019 were the times where they made good content.
@@StudyingIsFun yeah that seems accurate. There are still a couple of videos from after then that are still okay, but it's sad how far the channel has fallen. The last video I liked was the picnic table one.
Yeah it's wild that with 12 mil subs they aren't pulling more than 100k per video. So it what's obvious they made a stupid choice by letting Nate and callie go. Oh well I unsubbed along time ago just a bit before grant left the channel, I was just curious to see what had happened to the channel pretty sad. It was close to backyard scientist and if I recall they once did a collaboration long ago
no its no way near as bad as that. their content is all fake.
The fact that this video has more views than the last 9 TKOR videos combined... Should say something.
It’s a dead channel at this point. Almost 13 million subscribers and videos barely break 60k views. It’s so sad. TKOR used to be one of my favorite science channels on CZcams along with HouseHoldHacker
The fact that nate has hosted many videos on tkor that individually have more views than his entire channel combined should also say something.
@Ari Parker my point is proven
The issue is that social media and CZcams specifically has changed from very heavily science based to more diy and short form videos that give you enjoyment instantly and you can just switch from one to another sadly nowadays there are very few of us that would sit through videos like the old TKOR that are arguably the best on the platform
holy fuck Aware
The fact Grant chose you and Calli to run the channel, and management let you go. Absolutely crazy. Thanks for sharing some behind the scenes stuff. Wish you the best of luck my man.
This wasn't what Grant wanted, if he was alive today, the channel would be thriving still, now some random lady runs it, making a fraction of the views you and Calli made, you both continued the channel, and now as far as I'm concerned, tkor is a dead channel, a empty husk of its former glory.
@MOE Productions! This video is over a year old and it randomly popped up into my feed. As you have only just commented I feel I will reply.
I completely agree with you. I was a subscriber to TKOR for years from when it was just Grant. He was one of a kind, his videos were great. After he brought in Nate I didn't see much difference in the top quality content. I also loved it when Cali was brought in.
For me I found the content took a huge nosedive when they brought in the other presenters and started to pump out way too many videos. To me it seemed the videos lacked the professional standards from before as they seemed more aimed at children rather than everyone, as well as the videos obviously looking like they are poorly, cheaply rushed out attempts at "experiments".
I unsubscribed from TKOR a long time ago because of that. I wish Nate and Cali the best and will certainly be following his channel.
Does Cali have any channel do you know?
It is just like what is happened with Project veritas and james.okeefe. that was his company..
Nate and Calli were odd to see at first, but the content they made was always up to standard to what Grant made. But ever since? Now its Grace running it, TKOR channel is no longer "Making Science a Lifestyle" it's honestly anything but now. I was around 11? Maybe 9? When I started watching TKOR, and ever since I've wanted to be a scientist of some kind. Now I am 16.
I hated Grace. One of the last things that I did before I stopped watching TKOR is to comment bring back Calli and remove Grace. She doesn't give the right vibes for me and I think I'm right considering the current state of the channel.
I'm gonna be honest nate. When you first were brought onto TKOR I was hesitant. I had already been watching grants videos over and over for years and wasn't ready for change. However after a week or so you showed the same passion as Grant and I loved that. Without you and Grant, TKOR has really taken a fall. Glad you're still doing what you're doing.
Couldn't have said it any better man
Same, I don't handle host changes on CZcams channels well so I was very very hesitant about the change. But I really grew to love the new team. They really kept the channel the way Grant wanted it to be.
Yeah I hated him at first, but then he won me over
You and Calli were Grant's legacy, TKOR will never be the same without you...
It isn’t the king of random anymore. It’s just garbage. It used to but the past few years it’s gone downhill. I think they’re destroying that channel by posting so many horrible videos to it now
@@13_cmi fr tho I feel bad for Grant since it's like his legacy but nah man I'm done supporting them as they slowly turn it into a kid science channel
@@JDMOON55555 yeah. It used to be more of a kid’s science channel than it is now. Used to be more fun explosions and fire and super cold junk. Every kid loves that. And just a small little mistake ruined everything. One little oops killed him. And hundreds of oops killed this channel
He hand picked those two to be the faces of the channel. Their dismissal is the final nail in the coffin of straying away from the views of Grant… with them both on the team, they were in fact starting to go back to doing old school TKOR content then they were both let go. The last thread of Grant’s soul gone.
the King of Random died with Grant. it was NEVER the king of random once he was gone. it was just wannabes trying to ride Grants coatails of success.
I'm in shock-- I actually thought Nate and Callie were at the face of the company. We love you Nate, this is wild.
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@@EnergeticSpark63 hey
@@Speedwars hey
@@EnergeticSpark63 hey
@James, zack Nehring no, these 2 were great
But yeah, Grant was the greatest
It’s amazing how the management team didn’t ever think to ask their own audience on what they wanted
Of course they wouldn't ask. I've found that management teams rarely give a flying fuck about the audience and the little people. They're looking for big catches; people who are easily entertained with "cheap tricks." A good looking/pretty host + [supposedly] simplistic ideas = easy views from younger generations. I'm not bashing on anyone in anyway shape or form. I personally liked when they added Grace and the others but I should have known better. It's similar to a TV series. When an actor/actress is retiring soon or being fired, they bring in replacements. The management team didn't take the audiences opinion into consideration because they know/hope that they can gain a bigger audience using less expensive eye candy. It might take awhile but I feel like TKOR's audience will increase again but it'll most definitely be a different type of audience who enjoy their content. I'm more curious to see how many more people will be chewed up and spit out because of the people who are running things beyond the scenes. 💀😭
if you think about it, all managments care about is a giant scheme they just wanna squeeze as much money out of something and till it dies, infinite growth is a lie
Unfortunately, when subscribers stop watching their videos, YT will stop recommending their videos
They have like 12 mil subs, but get like around 20-50k views on a video. While Nate could easily pull a mil views on some videos.
@@rm.9771tkor gets less than 100k views on the newer vids, while Nate on his personal channel can get over 1 million easily.
You and Cali carried the channel well in my opinion, you had the same enthusiasm and energy that Grant had
Yeah I honestly stopped watching when grace became the main host on tkor, her energy has just never matched the channel imo
@@Alizoomzoom she did at first in my opinion but lost it, I've not watched a TKOR video in ages (I'm still subscribed though just out of respect for Grant, Nate and Cali)
@@thunderchild1083 one of the most recent videos on TKOR pretty much explains why. She got super depressed because she wasn’t being received well, all she wanted to do was share her love of science and people ripped her apart.
@@Ms.NoNo2 that sucks I did really like her when she first joined
Yea
It hurts, I used to watch The King of Random when it was just Grant for years. It is so painful seeing the channel rot and become hollow. Watching the channel go from science and interesting projects to its current dross. I hope you will be able to take the torch and make content equal to its former glory. So much of the soul from CZcams has faded...
It went from fun science videos to
“Lets mix random crap together and see what happens”
Idea burnout
That's a bit harsh, it's definitely not in it's former glory but the purpose of the channel was never to make the channel runner appeal to the viewers, but the actual projects and experiments in the videos.
I stopped watching ages ago because it stopped being "weird science and how far can I push this experiment" to "hey look at all this candy!" And clickbaity titles and thumbnails that seem to be chasing the algorithm.
I hadn't seen anything from the channel since everything kicked off and i literally do not even recognize the style of content now.
for real bro, its so sad i used to watch back when grant was just doing it as a passion project to learn things. His death hurt so badly
I realized that I was watching tkor for almost entirely Nate and Callie. The topics were interesting but the hosts were the entertainment. Good luck Nate.
Absolutely, I stopped watching mythbusters after Jamie, Adam, Grant, Carrie, and Tori left and was replaced with a bunch of albeit smart as hell kids, they had no charisma and I haven’t watched since. I more than likely won’t be watching any tkor videos in the future. I wish them all the best and hope they do well but thats how shows die.
I watched the search but was hoping for Chris Hackett, however I'm glad Faye and Tory are doing motor mythbusters
@@gregkrueger331 Sane here. The new Mythbusters had no charisma and the same is true of the kids at TKOR. When they first started popping in I was like oh no! Then I noticed them more and more and finally I couldn't watch anymore. This was one of my fave channels for a very long time. Don't fix what isn't broken!
I haven't watched anything since Nate left. Never realized I watched it just because of Nate and Callie.
Man that reminds me of Top Gear.
It went from fun science videos to
“Lets mix random crap together and see what happens”
Yeah, like, Grant literally could teach you how to make a small triple expansion steam engine by yourself, but now it's like, just making the most basic boring videos-
Honestly, I don't care why you're not on TKOR a anymore. I'm just glad I found you again. That's all I came here to say. I look forward to more of your content.
It's too bad, you really contributed some great projects. The recent foam machine video was top tier. I think if tkor gets someone on that has a better feel for making eye catching thumbnails they could shoot right back to the top. In the meantime add me to the list of those who would be happy to collaborate.
This is a collaboration I'd like to see. Since Grant's passing, Nate has been the face of TKOR and Calli was also a good addition. The new faces are okay and I respect them, but they're not Nate or Calli.
I hope to see you and Nate and maybe Calli collaborating in 2022.
Happy New Year, Bud!
Yep
I would love to see this collab.
I love your channel.you actually got me into pyrotechnics and fireworks from your original videos :) I still love your channel as it now!
Thanks for supporting him bro! We all gotta stick together!
I'm no expert, but yourself and Callie were the personality and character of the channel. I think ultimately you outgrew the channel, much of the content comes from the presenters and therefore there's a disconnect from the business side of things. It's sad that the future of the channel does not include you or Callie but agree with with you said about the content still being great - don't stop watching just to spite the creators and presenters. TKOR is probably a victim of the CZcams algorithm, which favours clickbait, and sensational thumbnails which don't reflect content (not mentioning any channels in particular but there are some specific content farms out there). Whatever you do, I'm sure many fans like myself will continue supporting you in your ventures. Will you and Callie reunite to do the challenges with Jazza? They were amongst some of my favourite things (you guys were my dream team).
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Like you said, disconnect between the ppl running the show and the business side that thinks they’re running it. Is very common in a lot of workplaces.
Sucks because I love Nate and Callie, but didn’t like how the content started to become low quality garbage last couple years. In hindsight they should have let the new ppl make the low quality stuff and let Nate and Callie build higher quality vids. But businesses need money so I get it.
I've watched the channel since before Nate even joined the team and when it transitioned to Nate and then Callie as well I was skeptical but the content just kept getting better. Again I was skeptical when Grace joined the team and while content she is in or leads is decent I still think the best videos had Nate and Callie in them and when they let Callie go I was disappointed and am now even more disappointed to see you go, I wish Grace and the remaining team the best of luck and I'll still check things out every now and then though I do think this is a major blow to the channel. Can't wait to see what Nate comes up with in the future though
Dream team indeed, I’d love to see a Jazza knife making challenge
Well said.
Personally I think Nate and Callie hit the sweet spot between pure instructional video and entertainment
My kids always watched Nate and Callie. We stopped watching when Callie got let go. Loyalty means more than $$ in my book. You both put in the work, you deserved more. Period.
I really appreciate you taking the time to explain so much of the backstory. I think I knew it in fragmentary form, but found it interesting to hear you tell it as a whole joined-up story. Wishing you the best for your future endeavours!
This is exactly what i was thinking
Ah mr shrimp! Nice to see you here
Hows Babatunde?
Giv me SSN plz. Is for Barrister John Warosa.
Yeah. Hearing more details helps us understand more. I am very curious to know what caused the downturn in views and subscribers.
When Grant died it was tough for me to watch the channel for a while. He was my favorite guy on CZcams and for days in a row after I found him, I binged his videos until I’d watched every one that was on the channel. I built his steel bucket furnace and melted down a bunch of aluminum cans in the bottom half of a propane torch tank. I had the time of my life trying out his builds. I was excited every time a new video of his came out. I was a bit put out to know he was phasing himself out from in front of the camera, but I ended up really enjoying watching your stuff too. When he passed away though, I had so much trouble getting into the channel. Not because the content quality went down. More so because I just had trouble with watching knowing the king himself was gone. Other kids had hero’s from their favorite shows, musicians, athletes, but Grant was that larger than life person who didn’t have a clue I existed and yet I felt like I could connect with him really well.
Anyway. I’m sorry to hear that you were let go. You did a fantastic job, and even though I had trouble with it personally, I’m glad you kept the channel alive in his memory. I think he would have preferred they kept you. There wouldn’t be a TKOR without either him or you. Best of luck to you.
This entirely ^
I still remember EARLY days of TKoR when Grant was finding his footing, and I watched Nate and Callie a lot as well, but Grants death did put me off from the channel for a few months because of that whole "my hero died" mentality.
It's gonna feel a lot of the same way now I think
I only liked this cus I couldn’t imagine how long that took you to type that.
Somehow I missed that Grant passed. Wow. I kinda watched a lot less because the new style was not what I enjoy. Not why I was here to begin with. Maybe how I missed it. I still watched but just not every video. Wow. What happened to him?
I slowly stopped watching after grant died to but it was when I really stopped watching is when they melted down the 10 mil play button just knowing that it was something bigger than what they turned it into.
@@countryracer69 czcams.com/video/fKIvrZ-gA1w/video.html
Now TKOR is averaging 30-80k views for a 13m subscriber channel
After Grant, nate became the king of random. It simply doesn't exist without him. That new lady didn't step up.
Exactly Nate was the perfect person.
Soooo.... More like the prince of random? 👀👀
@@vlalelrlila "The Prince of RnG" instead of The King of Random" XD
Not everyone can admit they "Were not easy to work with". Your honesty and apparent transparency has made me sub to you:)
Me too!!!
Agreed. Humble pie is hard to eat and humility is hard to find.
I mean, it seems more of like he was great to work WITH, since most of his co host and behind the scenes works only have high praises for him, it’s more of that he was passionate about what the original vision of the channel was, and disagreed with the higher ups often more than the people he actually worked with
Thank you for making this video. You did great work at TKOR Looking forward to see where you take your channel.
I came here and got so excited to see you in the comments. I love your channel as well. I too can’t wait to see what Nate has in store for the future
It's nice seeing you here, Steve.
thanks for all you do also sir
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I haven't watched TKOR in a while, and I'm shocked to learn you and Calli left. Honestly, I loved Grant to death, and it always felt like he passed the torch to you two, especially you Nate, who was already around when he retired. But in reality, I think TKOR's days were numbered from the beggining. It was extremely cool watching Grant build rope machines, or making liquid nitrogen, or setting things on fire for the first time. But being a channel that produces 3, 4, 5 videos every week, how long can you keep all the videos interesting? How many years can you push out of this? There's only so much content you can produce that's actually interesting, and that's why the hosts matter so much, because at one point, THEY are the ones trully making it interesting
Sad to hear how everything is going about and how you left the channel, but I wish both you and TKOR's team the best of luck
They didn't leave. They got let go
They could have just started posting once a week, or once a month! There's a market for that. Nilered, or The backyard scientist, for example. They rarely post but when they do they get 10's of millions of views
There are 2 problems that caused TKOR channel to go down hill in a way
1 - CZcams algorithm changes (This can do a lot of damage if people don't learn the changes)
2 - The average lifespan of a CZcamsr is 3-5 years and some channels might make it to 10 years.
Grant didn't retire, he died.
@@julianrivas1224 He had already retired before he died
I unsubscribed from TKOR after you left. You were the closest host to Grant and I feel like you embodied the king of random spirit. I look forward to watching your channel and hope you are doing well.
I remember when Grant first introduced you to the channel, I was like who tf is this guy, but you really grew on me and I'm happy I found this channel. You're amazing, keep your head up.
Bro SAME💯
this is pretty exact
Same.
Lol same here. Kinda sad that Nate is gonna be the one to carry on Grant's legacy.
Same.
Its really sad to see all the OG TKOR members get fired. Honestly I thought that Nate owned the channel and he was unable to be fired and stuff. I really find it really hard to hear because when I first started watching your channel I was watching mainly grants videos but you at that point probably had around 10-15 videos with you in it. You guys were the reason that I bought lots of the stuff I bought and the stuff i bought shaped me to who I am today. There was a point when youtube just stopped recommending your videos to me and I find that strange because I would always watch your videos the day they came out. But after I saw one of your videos I realized that there were some new people in your videos. I watched some but the new hosts were not the same as the OG. The reason I actually stopped watching the channel completely is because it got way too sciencey and lost some of its fun entertaining touch. I think the biggest reason of that is because of the new hosts. I still love your old videos and you were the first person to be hired as a host on the team and I feel like the call to fire the people who ran the channel for grant and knew him was a terrible call. This goes to Nate, Calli, and also Mark. Your videos and legacy will go down in not only TKOR history but youtube history.
Somewhat similar situation for me, YT recommended the video's all the time while Grant was hosting. At some point YT stopped, at which point it started again but only with Nate as the only host. Few video's in I later found out what happened but YT has since stopped recommending. Since I haven't seen one in awhile, I never knew Nate left.
Just seems weird the owner, probably Grant's Wife gave power to some producer who did the opposite of Grant's idea of Random. Too bad, another channel ruined for pure greed.
After Grant passed, it was clear that the channel needs a new direction. On YT people look for honest content, creators using their own voice, to tell their own ideas and perspective. As I see it, it was just matter of time Nate and Calli starts their own project.
Tkor is prolly owned by Grant's wife
@@ashtoncastle7623 It is
TL:DR
I’m sorry that “management” decided to let you to go from tkor.
Seems it became more about money and views than content quality.
I support you and what you do.
I shan’t unsubscribe from tkor, but I have not been into or watching their videos for a few years now.
Same, I haven't watched the videos for a long while, but I'm still subscribed almost in honour of what the channel used to be
From a business standpoint money and views is really all that matters, if a big company expensive video although incredibly done makes the same revenue and gets the same views as a lower effort video there is no logical reason to proceed to “waste” time and effort towards those bigger videos
Ironically they get literally 100x less views.
@@exitsignman5348 those big videos got millions of views, the newer videos are barely pushing 50k lmao. people don't want bland bullshit, they want content with passion
@@SpawnIsSleepy exactly. I honestly hadn’t watch a TKOR video in 4 years and I just saw the absolute crap they’re making now and I literally started laughing. It has gone from great cool projects to what catchy title we can put on a video now and make the cheapest way possible.
I'm incredibly late to the party but...
I actually built a lot of Grant's original builds, and I remember his transition and remember watching his burnout in almost real time. I also remember you transitioning into the host and I knew exactly what was going on, and working with Calli. And I thought it was a very fitting transition because both of you had the awkwardness on camera that Grant had when he just filmed his hands doing things lol. I only lost track of the channel during the pandemic (that we're still in) because I became a health worker finally (tiring enough) and then. Pandemic lol. I lost track of you and Calli and the channel and it felt like I blinked and the entire channel was COMPLETELY reformed.
I just found out about your channel randomly the other day, I can't remember what from (it was probably a knife making related thing) but I'm so glad to see you still doing things, I'm definitely gonna check out Calli's twitch and see what she's up to, y'all are both great people and I look forward to your future content.
Edit:
As someone that has a family (unfortunately my own) had a Bipolar Mother and a lot of mental health issues. It is hard to deal with that if you don't understand (I am not defending the other person) my Mother used to just not talk with me for weeks and get me to school or work and blast music when she was angry and then send me so many gifts when she was happy and still just not talk. I am not at all defending this person, they are in the wrong, but I have also dealt with this bipolarity with my own Mother.
The codependency is clear, they do bring it up in the first video? I think I saw BPD but they're clearly not handling it well.
@@IMGrasstopher hello, I understand this may be a weird reply but I don’t quite realize who you’re talking about in your reply to your own comment, did you mean to reply to someone else that deleted their comment or am I missing something?
Nate, Calli, and Mark should get together and create a new channel together because they made TKOR fun and it's honestly their energy that I miss
I would love that
Leave Calli out of it please. All my friends unsubed after a while of her. We are all circles. I don't care about anyones personal life. Her personality makes alot of people run away. many people love her. but you got 2 85% positive people and a 45% leave the low number out.
Oh yes please
@@BensMiniToons nah
That would be awesome!
Some real honesty there. “I was tough to work with.” Hard to say out loud. Harder to post on CZcams. Good luck Nate.
Na I'm an asshole I know it I guess if you are delusional and let's be honest if you know what you are doing it is hard to work with stupid people
@@james10739 you sound like an absolute delight
@@hitthegoat I am just probably more honest than you
@@james10739 honestly =/= asshole-ness
@@hitthegoat what’d he say?
I'm a year late to this video, but I wanted to thank you for everything you and Cali did on TKOR. I like Grants videos, but I binged every video with you and Cali. You were a great team.
I started watching when you and Calli were the hosts. I never really saw Grant's videos much. Seeing Calli go made me cry. Seeing you gone now too after catching up on TKOR has me in tears again.
I think you and Calli should make a channel together or something like that. Both of your energy together were great. You bounced of each other so well and it was great to watch. Any way I hope whatever you do works out well and can’t wait to see what you and Calli both do.
I always felt calli was holding him back i felt she was a bit of cringe and didn't want to be in some of the videos
@DannyDevitoIs77 pretty sure they would get sued into oblivion if they did that
@@nickanderson8305 Unless theres a non-compete clause, wouldnt hold any weight.
Let’s be honest we ALL thought Nate and Cali would get together
1000% agreed
I'm so sorry this has happened. To me, the identity of TKOR was Grant, Calli, and you. I was so saddened to hear of Grant's passing and I felt that you and Calli brought all the life you could to the channel in his wake. I will definitely be following you and her both from here on out.
Does Cali have a channel as well?
@@crappieking757 Her channel is called calbits
Cali leaving was the start of TKOR's degradation, and Nate leaving was the final nail in the coffin.
True
I agree, grace isnt that great in my opinion as a host. Nate and Calli were an awesome duo though
I saw one of your shorts like 30 minutes ago and i got a hit of nostalgia from you and your work. Thank you for being such a great creator
Honestly, I was one of those people that felt like the channel lost some of its magic after grants passing. I had been watching the king of random about 2 or 3 years before it happened, so I was incredibly sad, but I kept watching the channel long past that. Although it wasn’t the same without him, it was clear that the same videos I still loved watching were being made, just with a different host (you). It was only a year or 2 ago when I stopped watching the channel almost entirely, and I really can’t explain why. things just didn’t feel the same. It was always clear that some of the videos grant did were primarily for money, but it also felt like a lot of the build projects he did were out of personal passion as well. It just started to seem like the channel was more of a content farm instead of something for personal enjoyment instead recently. This video really makes me feel justified in those thoughts. It’s honestly just sad that the people who really built this channel with passion and personal involvement were just cut out because they weren’t making them money. For me personally, the channel will never be the same now that you’re gone. I would love to see you make videos on your own time as a passion project if you have your own inspiration to do that. Sadly, the type of content I enjoy the most are like those old school slow build projects that the channel use to post a lot about. I understand that it doesn’t really bring in a lot of money even if they do go viral just because of how long they take.
I couldn't agree more. "Management" has gotten greedy and has dive-bombed the TKOR channel into the ground. Without creative freedom, and true love from Calli and Nate for the projects being done, the channel is just a video sweat-shop. I am truly saddened to see how greed has ruined what used to be a great, inspiring, educational, and entertaining CZcams channel. R.I.P. TKOR CZcams channel and may the true King and Queen of random (Calli & Nate) continue to inspire many more young viewers in the way that they have already inspired so many, myself included.
Yes, that sums up my view on TKOR as well. Over the last year I've gone from always watching videos to being an occasional watcher depending on the content of the videos. Best wishes for your next chapters.
Exactly the same for me, I stopped watching after a while and tried to come back but something just fell off. Hope to see a lot of Nate's new stuff tho!
I agree with the channel becoming a content farm. I don't like that. The personal passion that Grant brought was a hard act to follow. Also his voice and just whole personality was mostly why I liked The King Of Random. If a channel grows so big that it has to support a management staff that isn't part of the scenes, then it loses all that. Good luck to you and I will check out some of your content. But honestly there are a million knife making channels out there and I think people are getting burnt out on so much.
I feel exactly the same way
Nate, I applaud you for not going on a rant about “how they did me wrong”, it shows your great character! I wish you success and look forward to seeing what path life leads you down. Best of luck!
I noticed that too. Very much appreciated.
Not if they did him wrong that's just truth if it is I haven't watched yet. If he did get wronged and did it say anything its a LACK of character
*didint
@@Omerta2times very debatable. He doesn't want to be known as "that guy" and it's always for complicated than you'd think. (Even referring to the company in the singular is a hidden unfounded assumption, there are probably a lot of good people there, it may have been a situation where conflict with just a few people were involved, is than the noble thing to do to trash a company full of people you appreciate and want the best for because you wanted to spite a few)
@@Omerta2times Your name is "Omerta", but you think it's lack of character is someone keeps his moulth shut. haha
I highly doubt this comment will be seen, however i wish to say that when you were brought on by Grant to do TKOR I was pretty skeptical about the change and worried things would change for the worst. All these years later i can confidently say i couldn't have been more wrong. You were a fantastic addition to the team and I'm glad i got to enjoy videos coming out with you as the host, the same goes for Calli as well. When Grant passed away I felt destroyed since his videos helped me through a tough spot, but i knew the future of the channel was in amazing hands and I 100% support anything you might want to do. May the Jack of All Trades never die 😊.
Please keep this sincerity! My biggest thing that made me fall off TKOR was that it became a content farm and it just slowly felt less personal and sincere. We just wanna watch you have fun and make things!
100% agree!!
TKOR won’t be the same without you Nate! Looking forward to watching your work on your new channel!
I discovered TKOR just a few months before Grants passing. TKOR to me, has always been you and Calli. I watched for you two. I will continue to watch anything that you two do, especially if you guys did something together again.
You absolutely must see the stuff Grant did, it's an entirely different feel. I recommend the hydrogen generator
@@Sillimant_ I miss grant I wished he was still alive, always loved his videos
@@Velascojhon so do I. I remember always wanting to make the hydrogen generator or the ‘r candy’, good times
@@Sillimant_ my favorite was the match rocket
It was same for me
It kinda hurts knowing I watch TKOR even before you joined, remember watching your relationship with the team grow. And now. Its all different.
R.I.P Grant.
Watching you and Cali made that channel fun to watch and I'm so happy to see you have your channel now so I can still watch your content!
I never knew Callie was let go, I assumed she voluntarily left. After Grant left this world, I still loved the channel because I joined in the era of you and Callie. I loved you guys. When Callie left, I was sad but I'd hoped she was doing something she loved. Now with you gone too, it won't be the same. I like Grace, so I'll probably still watch them. But I'm sad. You, Grant, and Callie were the heart and soul of TKOR. I only just discovered your channel by mistake, but I subscribed 😁
@@RDNGAMING22 bruh 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
It was basically public knowledge that she was let go because of her sexuality since Janae is a strict Mormon. Sad how religion is more important to her than basic human respect.
@@gikiryu are u fr
@@gikiryu wait what wtf?
@@gikiryu Which is wrong, because IIRC Grant was an ally to LGBT people. This is just wrong on so many levels how people can still justify religion as a point of bigotry…
it’s not that i’m unsubbing from TKOR to spite them, it’s that you were the only reason I still supported them. You were the last thing that we left that kept the spirit of old school TKOR alive and that’s why I loved it in the first place. Good luck nate. you tried to help them the best you could, they just didn’t take it✌️
This is my exact reason as well
Love you Nate, you stepped up when we needed you, and I am excited to see what you do next
I did not realize how much of an impact TKOR had on me till now and how happy I am to hear about your future projects. I think styropyro would be a great person to bring on for just about any kind of video. Massive respect for you being so positive in this video and good luck in the future!
Just fired and actively promoting them, this really shows that you are in love with the channel and not the business that it has been converted into. Best of luck in your future endeavors man.
since grant passed, nate and calli are the only reason i watched tkor, when they added more people and cali left i'm no longer watch tkor anymore. i'm looking forward to what you do to this channel and hope you collab with calli someday
yeah i agree 😔
Same
Same. I watched for them. If they’re not there then I won’t be watching anymore.
why she leave
Same
Literally no words smh so sorry, thanks for explaining so much to us. Loved having you there been watching TKOR for as long as I can remember.
Having someone choose the team they want to continue their legacy and then letting the team go after they passed… just awful.
While we all missed Grant, we knew that he was passing the torch off, but the way you stepped up after his untimely passing was, imo, pretty epic. Nate, you have grown as a creator and as a person, and I as menial as just being one subscriber is as a whole, I will be watching you grow into your next chapter! Have a great new year!!!
I am so thankful youtube recommended this because I had no idea any of this was happening. I remember finding TKOR about a year and a half ago and loving it. I binged the videos for months because I loved the concepts and being an Engineer. When I found out what happened to Grant, I was shocked, but I was grateful to still enjoy the videos. You and Cali were perfect for me to watch because it reminded me of me and some of my friends and how we bounce off each other. Hearing you and Cali were let go, breaks my heart. Even though I am not a big fan of TKOR now, I can understand what happens when youtube algorithms change. Wishing you and Cali the best in whatever life grants you.
this comment just read my entire mind, the second i got the notification for this video being recommended to me, i clicked so fast and im just kind of in shock in hearing all of this!!
Honestly, this was thrown into my CZcams recommended today. I never knew Nate even left TKOR, but I knew that Calli and Nate were just gone and Grace and (I think his name is Hunter, I don't remember ;w;) were taking over, I completely lost interest in TKOR. This comment sums up my mentality of this video perfectly. I wish Nate and Calli the best (saw her Twitch and IMMEDIATELY followed it lol cuz I love Calli) and I hope they both go on to do great things.
@@kyara_rose I honestly hated when they brought new people in. I knew at that point when I saw the new people more often that this channel was dying. Now that Nate and Calli are gone. I'm sure the life that TKOR once had is gone with them. RIP.
@@Qtipz123 Sadly, I agree. I'll go back and watch my favorite videos with Nate and Callie, but that's the only views they get from me anymore. I still wish Nate and Callie the best and I hope TKOR can someday return to how it used to be
@@kyara_rose personally, i think it’ll be very hard for TKOR to go back to its original roots without Grant, or even Nate and Callie. Unless someone who’s got a brain like them can somehow take over and execute this idea, it’ll be very very difficult
Honestly its not that Grace is bad but it went from a serious science channel for adults / science enthusiasts to more of a crafts /kids channel. Grace just kind of cemented that for a lot of people because she has a very "children's show " host kind of vibe. ( side note grace looks drastically different what the heck happened ? I just saw a recent video after skipping them since 2020)
She became a lesbian. That change usually happens when a girl becomes a lesbian.
Good luck Nate. I'll be watching. Thanks for the TKOR history.
I would love to see you and Adam Savage make some stuff. You both have this "I'm just gonna sit in my shop and tinker on things" kind of vibe. Plus, he is a wealth of knowledge.
it would be amazing to see. however a lot of Adam's time has been taken up recently with his own projects, sponsor channels, and more. perhaps a sciencey colab would be nice tho, it would be amazing to see that side of him interacting with fans. I love Savage for that very reason, he is in it for the passion, not about making a huge name for himself everywhere he goes. His latest hidden ventures at a cosplay event helped prove that to me even more.
I can imagine the conversations between those two would be very... wild and interesting haha!
In all honesty, my interest and viewership of TKOR declined substantially when the divergence was made from the bigger cooler builds but declined further with what I felt to be an over commercialization of the channel. I am sure many thought the abundant merch and project kits were fun and all but it seemed to be too prominent and frequently plugged. Whatever participation these viewers here have done has definitely tickled the algorithm as this video showed up at the top of my list so great job to all of you for helping 👍 As for me, I am now subscribed to the channel and I clicked the bell icon as well to ensure that I am notified of all future posts. I am excited for you Nate and wish you the very best in whatever you decide to do. Just going to throw this out there but, since you enjoy making knives, have you thought about larger knife/sword projects? Also, maybe something in line with restoration projects could be of interest? Something in the realm of taking some really poorly maintained/destroyed knives axes and other sharp things and either bringing them back to life or maybe even transforming them into something unusual or fantastic.
i would love that thought, restorations and rebuilds of old and worn out blades. Being enthusiastic to start my own ventures into knife making, this would absolutely be a favourite topic of mine.
"my interest and viewership of TKOR declined substantially when the divergence was made from the bigger cooler builds but declined further with what I felt to be an over commercialization of the channel" this is how I feel exactly
I feel like the decline started very subtlety a while ago but it went very bad when they did a video where they took some liquid and tried to scate on it but every chance they could they would show off the sponsor which was some laptop
I feel the same way, I literally can’t watch TKOR anymore bc it just feels like something completely different compared to why I subscribed 10 years ago, I couldn’t sit down and watch one of these newer vids with the same excitement that I used to have
That restoration idea sounds like something I would watch!
Might even turn me into a knife geek
I love that you have your own channel now! Loved what you did on TKOR too! I’m here for it and I’m proud of you!!
Nate after Grant passed away you were the reason I kept watching TKOR. I hope you stay on CZcams and show what you are best at. I want to see you get your own unique channel running.. Your presentation styke is perfect. To be honest I always saw you as the heir to Grant's Legacy. Please keep making videos to keep his spirit alive.
I started watching less and less over time as Grant left and it became a completely different channel. I believe Grant inspired many people. Now we have Nate and The backyard scientist.
I can tell you honestly why I stopped watching about a year ago: it felt like it turned into a kid's show. I'm in my 30s and I didn't feel like the target audience. Obviously as an educational channel that would be an obvious audience to some extent, but it became overtly targeted towards kids from a production and presentation perspective
I call that allowing yourself to be consumed by the algorithm.
@@Beemer212 I think Sean D was saying that TKOR allowed itself to be consumed by the algorithm. The original comment here reminded me a bit of why I stopped watching and unsubscribed too. The new videos and hosts seemed to turn it into a kids show.
yeah, I remember back in the Grant days, the good old projects like the home made welder, or the furnaces, or the scariac, this were like dangerous but like actually useful and really cool and interesting projects. Compare that to the new videos where they melt candy or put random stuff in a vacuum. Not that I didnt keep watching for a while but, I think building a transparent vacuum chamber is 20 times more cool and interesting than putting a shirt in it to see if it will dry. I mean you guys remember the flame thrower, was badass.
After Grant, they never had anyone who knew about engineering. They didn't even know how to use most tools. Very amateur. Including this fella.
Yeah, hearing this resonates with me too.
after Grant's passing you really did take up the mantle and embody the spirit of the channel. after Calli was let go it was a huge hit for me as I grew to love you both equally, even when the content wasn't quite what I enjoyed I loved the banter and silliness you guys provided. Now that you're gone from there I'm not sure I will go back to watching TKOR, but You've gained both a subscriber and a patron!
Wait what? I havent watched in a long time (their content didnt...well sit well with me for what i liked about grants stuff...but meh) didnt know she was gone
@@atomicrc5189 Grant was a man. With a penis. He died a few years ago.
@@rustyshakleford5230 he was talking about Calli leaving dude.
?????? He was talking about cali
Grant Imahara will be missed
Thank you Nate you and grant raised me to be a curious person and I really appreciate it
Beautiful video Nate, love the recap of the timeline, I kinda had no idea of what was going on overall.
Appreciate the recap, subscribed :)
After Grant first introduced you way back in the day, I was uneasy. But quickly learned that you were the only person capable taking up the monumental task Grant left behind. Along with Callie, you and her became the soul of the channel, unique and amazing on par with Grant's work as the host. Still to this day, I believe that, I just really wish Grant was still here in all this.
What ever happened to him I never really found out
@@conspiracycarrot3423 died hang gliding.
@@JF.90 damn rip
TKOR was my childhood. tkor, householdhacker, and a variety of others. With Grant, Nate, and Calli gone, it doesn't feel the same because I liked them and I knew Grant chose them. I liked Mark as well as the camera man because there were personal moments like the boomerang video. If I don't keep watching that much on tkor, it was great while it lasted.
bro it's sad to see that grants dream of the channel has died. grant literally left the channel to nate. it's sad man
@@Demonutzz fr
Both channels had a significant person unfortunately pass away.
Householdhacker passed away unfortunately, i used to watch TKOR and householdhacker since 2014
Watching Grant thompson "the king of random",Household hacker,crazy russian hacker, cody's lab,sonicdad, bakyard scientist in 2013 was my peak childhood
Honestly I haven't been able to watch tkor since grant's passing, I am glad that I finally found somewhere I can watch you though without having the constant reminder of what is missing over there, even though things hadn't changed it still felt like something was missing since
Same here. I watched grant since I was in middle school. He was like the friend I never had. After Nate came on I watched a video every now and then but I never watched them within a day of release like I used to watch grants. I have not watched a video from them in over 3 years. I can’t bring myself to it. Something definitely changed. Grant used to improve on designed such as the foundry and his copper gears but the new videos just did crafts anyone could do. It’s not the same…
As someone who's been watching since the beginning I love you guys and your upbeat attitude so excited to see what you guys do next.
Good luck on everything, Nate. I look forward to seeing what you come up with for your channel!
Wait the hornet king is here too.
@@brayannexon4613 yea what??? Everyone is here now?
Woah hornet king is here???
For some reason, CZcams had stopped recommending TKOR videos to me, so I had honestly forgotten about the channel. I didn't realize that both you and Calli are now no longer with the channel. For a while, I watched the videos, and it was mostly because I enjoyed the dynamic between you and her. If CZcams doesn't recommend their videos to me any longer, I probably won't watch them any more. But I'm not averse to watching them. I wish you the best in the future. Thank you for sharing your story. I only have a tiny cooking channel here, but if we can ever help you in any way, just give us the word.
Lol same here even though I'm subscribed
Part of why I kept watching was you and Calli. I'll definitely be sticking around for your guys' channels, keep on keepin' on!
So happy I've found you again, and making great content as always. I know another channel I'll be watching regularly now.
I'm glad this was recommended to me. I'd been wondering what was going on with TKOR for a while now. I really enjoyed watching Grant, Nate, and calli. But with the new hosts and rapid, more kid friendly videos, it started to feel like they are trying to appeal to everyone but their main audience. I gave it a shot but it just left me wishing there was something more to it. I don't hate the new people on TKOR by any means, but I feel like management just inadvertently fired their audience. I'm sorry, Nate, but I can't continue to watch TKOR. But I'm glad you're still going to continue to make videos. I'll be here for it:)
Cheers to this
Spot on to what I was going to say.
Same by me. I bear no hate, and I wish them the best in this new direction they're taking. But I feel their target audience is clearly different now, and people from the old-school side of the audience are getting left out. So I feel like I am left out. And Nate was honestly the last reason I had to keep watching.
Sameeee
Same here. I stopped watching when they had a bunch of videos that were clearly aimed for kids. I don't mean to say it's bad that they made it more for kids, just that it no longer appealed to me.
Personally, I find that TKOR started to have a kid's science show vibe to it, something you would show to young teens. Also, the kinds of experiments and the format was getting repetitive, and maybe a little boring. Nothing felt "refreshing" except the more involved videos. As for the # of videos, most channels seem to put out +- 1 video a week, and I think that is the perfect amount if you want to work with a small close-knit team on projects you are all passionate about. You can't go wrong when you enjoy the process.
The first half of your comment describes exactly why I haven't been watching many of their videos lately.
I agree, Why force six videos of commonly known school science experiments that have been filmed a few thousand times? I much prefer videos where someone took their time and had to create something new.
Even 2 or 3 videos a week with the size of team would work.... it would be a lot of work, but 6, is just bad. 6 or 7 or 8 videos is too much.
@@PBMS123 For what it's worth, from an outsider's perspective, 1 to 2 videos per week is pretty much my ideal for channels I like. More than that and I burn out on them pretty quick. Less than that and I don't check what's going on particularly regularly.
Tbf tho I was watching it as a young teen back in the day. Jeez how time flies
00:14 🎥 Nate talks about leaving "The King of Random" and thanks fans for their support.
03:29 🔬 Nate discusses how he got hired and transitioned to being in front of the camera.
05:59 💥 Legal issues involving explosives led to changes in video production but didn't halt the channel.
09:15 🎥 Nate talks about co-host Calli and the channel's success.
19:01 📺 Nate explains how the channel continued after Grant's passing, maintaining the same content and direction.
20:39 📉 Views started dropping significantly on the TKOR channel, prompting changes.
21:07 🎥 Plans to increase video production by bringing in additional hosts were implemented in 2020.
23:58 🔄 Attempt to revamp the channel's direction with fewer, higher-quality videos in early 2021.
25:59 👋 Staff reduction, including letting go of a team member, due to cost concerns and low views.
29:13 📅 The narrator is no longer with TKOR as of December 27, 2021, and plans to continue creating content on their own channel.
You're a top tier chad.
Good job AI generasting this lmfao
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@@TheRealPlix Dont
@@TheRealPlixyeah the times are off
It sure is good seeing you Nate.🙂👍keep up the good work.
God bless you
"Summer of 2019" : everyone instantly tears up. RIP Grant.
Subbed and looking forward to seeing what you do with your channel, Nate.
Wow! I was impressed with you when I met you at a wedding. And I'm impressed with your ability to share this story so clearly and with such detail. Perhaps story telling is in your future? I especially like the accountability and grace with which you expressed your well wishes for those involved with TKOR going forward at the end. I'd be happy to work with you if you have a mind to do any automotive or adventure content. As you know, I'm in Utah as well.
Telling a story about a project as the voiceover would be fantastic! Ex. The history of this type of knife
If that adventure content involves DnD or other ttrpgs (and you don't already have a GM), I have a friend who's an excellent storyteller and lives in UT as well
Omg, another Mr Ballen level master storyteller for sure!
you guys where the entire personality and soul of the channel. It’s completely dead and unrecognizable without you guys.
Thank you for the entertainment and laughs, it was well worth watching you. I'm reminded of the old saying, "The moving hand, having writ, moves on."
Without you and Calli there the channel just doesn’t feel like TKOR anymore over there, you both helped keep the spirit of Grants vision for the channel alive. Even when content started changing things still felt the same. To me and of course this is speculation but it almost seems like whoever is the management team wanted to get rid of whatever was left from Grants era and only wanted the name of the channel. I can’t wait to see what you have to post. I think if you do whatever makes you happy we will like. I do think maybe just doing small builds would be great.
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I felt the exact same way when Grant stepped away and let Nate and Cali take charge. Took me a long while to get back into TKOR, but when I did I was happy with what Nate and Cali had done.
I agree. When Grace came on, things really started to change. I really liked it when it was Nate and Calli. It has changed in the last year or so, and I haven't liked it as well.
I feel so sad that you were let go when Grant was the one who brought you on and tried to help you take over the channel. You should of had a lot more say in what needed to happen because you always seemed to try and go with what Grant loved. I hope the higher ups don't try to run TKOR into the ground for the memory of Grant and for the others who truly love the actual spirit of the channel. As for teaming up, I would love to see you try to team up with Even and Katlin. They do a lot of DIY stuff and knowing your background, it would be really cool seeing your science ideas meeting their DIY stuff. Even if it may just be gaming with them too as they have a channel about gaming as well.
I would love to see an Evan and Kate collab!
I too commented on a collab with E and K! Alot of great energy there!
I find it really frustrating that "management" of these larger channels just see "Trends" "Views" and "$$$" when, yes I guess those thing are important, but only focusing on just those things will get you stale videos. The audience will get bored and stop watching. I stopped watching TKOR regularly a few years ago. I think they stopped seeing us as smart people. I mean, I know when people are creating content just to make money and to check boxes. Yes a lot of viewers are children, but there are still a lot of smart millennials watching too. I liked the cool builds that grant did. I also liked some of the crazy science experiments that you guys did, but at some point, it just felt super forced. The amount of videos coming out was annoying to me. I'm used to my favorite youtubers doing like 1 video a week or if it's a streamer, every few days. I don't really check into channels that upload every day. CZcams is being run by these "managers" and it makes it less open to creativity and smaller creators. It makes it all about "views and money" and I'm sad about that. I want to be part of a community, not just a "viewer" that'll make you serious "cash."
"What a blessing it is to have a life with chapters". A phrase that caught my attention and I will be grateful that crossed my path, thanks to you!
OMG! I haven't tuned into TKOR in a few months, missed out on some big changes! Looking forward to seeing some cool projects here on your new channel! Best of Luck Nate!
You and Callie were the reason my kids watched your show! We met you in a Home Depot parking lot a couple years back and you were nice to them, making them fans for life.
Lucky kids 😉
I have been a TKOR fan from way back, I remember disliking you at one point making campfire pizza. It took a little time to except the change, but I’m here now! Just a thought, a lot of us grew up watching Grant and his projects to what is going on now. We grew, but the shows projected audience did not. A show for the people that don’t care about you burning up cotton candy machines would be nice. A show with projects that are more age appropriate for those that out grew TKOR would be awesome. Possible a show where Nate and Calli do sketchy stuff with good intentions?
Same i grew up watching since WAY WAY back and i hate to admit it but at first i didn't like him either but grew to except the change and ended up liking nate and callie both and i agree with you about the age appropriate videos idea
Same tho I remember when grant made clay i also didn't like Nate at first but then he grew on me
Now that I think about it, a lot of CZcamsrs who explored other type of videos like MrBeast made secondary channels. I believe what should have happened before the transition to "experimental" vs "builds" was to make a separate channel just for the experiments / fun food related videos. What TKOR alt to do is make separate channels tailored to certain audiences because their seems to be a division among the audience in terms of who likes what...
I also hated him when he started. But he grew on me as well as callie. Then Grant passed away and i took a better liking to him. Now the channel is gonna die.
the same thing happened when ray william johnson stepped down from =3. his replacement robby motz he was awkward and robotic and at first people were like "ehhhh..." but over the year he had signed his contract the community came to absolutely love him, and his choice to not renew his contract for the show was kind of a blow for everyone, because the next host, she just didn't have the charisma.
I would also point out Will Stettler from Alec Steele's channel, when Alec moved to the US people weren't Will's biggest fans, but after time finding out he was leaving the channel to do his own thing, sucked hard.
I miss the old tkor days when there was crafts and experiments stuff like that, and even later you were a big part of the process, I’m late at finding your channel but I’m glad you’re still on CZcams
Self-reflection is a valuable learning tool. Helps us to not make the same mistakes over and over.
Thanks for honestly living it out for us on your Video.
Wish you all the very best for the future.
The "down slope" point for me was when the experiments got too big a part of the channel. I watched *for* the builds, and some experiments are OK- but there should be a connection from them to builds. Like the time grant mixed aluminium and brass in his foundry, i wasn't a project but it was very related.
Experiments go good with younger fortniters maybe, but i got sick of "lets dip this into this and see what happens" really quickly and i dropped my 3-4 years subscription at that time.
NATE I wish you nothing but the best, and will follow for more knife making videos and shits & giggles
Same here. TKOR used to have whacky experiments and projects, a good balance between them. They explained the science behind why things worked how they did, and what that meant for wider use in the world. It's moved so much more to fast bits of curiosity, with a lot less explanations as to what is behind it. Just "Lets see what happens," not "this is what happens, it's really cool, and we're going to replicate it to show you how it works and explain it better."
The target audience also shifted. The content used to be quite a bit more technical and now its just tons of super silly stuff (Which is fine, just not my cup of tea). Like using way too much detergent in a washing machine. They still put out some solid videos but alot of it seems targets at a much younger audience (This is by design because lets face it, younger audiences tend to have alot more spare time to watch silly videos like that.) I full understand why they made that call. Its a buisness that needs to make money, I get it. But It sucks regardless. I miss the older content that was more grounded in actual things instead of silly one of fast bits of gratification
Same, I watching at the HHO Generator when I was eleven, but when it was getting into covering things in silicone and vacuum chamber experiments I was getting uninterested, but I still watched until it was primarily Nate and Calli. Which isn't anything wrong with them, they're both really talented and experienced, it just happened that the algorithm now prefers multiple videos a week and these experiments are much easier to produce multiple a week.
Once they starting adding even more people I actually unsubscribed and stopped watching entirely.
Yah, same. I totally understand that the experiments were what were getting the views. But, I bet that the build projects that were mixed in played a big part on what kept people coming back.
On top of that, when they started taking audience suggestions of, "What else do you want us to with with X thing?" It just started getting really old fast. (Well some did, like how does X thing change when you put it in a freeze dryer? That got boring after the 2nd video and they kept going with it. But some stuff like microwaving various things never gets old because of the sparks and explosions.)
This is a thing I see a lot of times: commenters say they don't like a certain type if video, when CZcamsrs can see in their statistics that what the majority of the audience wants is, in fact, exactly that type of video.
I don't blame you for saying you didn't like the experiments or unsubscribing, but I can also see why someone with a channel chooses to prioritize the statistics, especially if multiple people depend on them for a paycheck.
I just think we should try to keep in mind that our watch experience is probably not that of the general CZcams user, so assuming that what you want is secretly what everyone else wants is probably not the best.
It's insane that one of the first ever people hired to TKOR can just be so easily let-go.
Just goes to show everyone is expendable and replaceable
@@jorkusmalorkus You haven't found a good boss yet.
@@rustyshakleford5230 he sounds like a filthy commie. Just give him your coffee order in so the rest of us can.
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It is not always that simple. If the budget started to dry up, is it due to a lack of loyalty that employees do not stay as volunteers? It can go both ways. There are reasons why family-run businesses usually fail; they value the employees to the point of self-destructing the company, which does not help anyone.
sorry to hear, You are a great guy keep that in mind.
Love your content
I didn't know what had happened before the algorithm placed your video into my recommended list today! Good luck! Subscribed!
Typically when people say something is going "downhill" from a viewer/consumer perspective, they're talking about something in the quality of the product; not necessarily about the performance and well-being of the channel. In this case, at least in my opinion, it wasn't a single point at which the videos changed, but rather a gradual fitting into "the formula," where it seemed less random and more like a rotation between a few trends: liquid nitrogen, shredder, vacuum chamber, etc. It makes sense in the context that the channel started to drop in its reception. The response is to continue to produce the content that's getting the most views. As another commenter mentioned, I feel like you outgrew the direction of the channel. Thanks, Nate, for sharing this with us.
For me, I began loosing interest around the time the commercialization ramped up. Merch and project kits are nice but I felt they were plugged too frequently however you bring up some interesting points that I had yet to consider. I guess if you try and feed the algorithm everything it seems to want, the audience is only left with the things they liked before with nothing to recapture their attention.
That’s about how I feel. I enjoyed them, but they did those so many times that it felt less like experiments and more like “what can we throw in the cotton candy machine today?” It turned into a content farm. I understand the business logic, but as a viewer eventually I started skipping videos and then stopped watching altogether (to be entirely fair I pretty much just quit CZcams for a while). It sucks because what drew a lot of us to the channel in the first place just wasn’t as profitable, and what was making money got boring after so many iterations.
After Grant, um, left us, his content also left us. RIP
@@hmr313_ How so? In the video, Nate clearly states they used what Grant taught them to continue making content for the channel.
@@nickv.8618 yes, but I was following his channel since 2015, and I could see the difference in the content. He used to make great projects and how-to videos, while the new content was more of fun-oriented experiments rather than science based cool items. Remember the lego candy? or the laser blow gun? or the mini metal foundry? his life hacks? all that was great stuff.
You, calli, and grant were my childhood and now all of the king of random that I grew up with is gone and now im sad, thank you for everything that all of you have done on tkor
I knew I recognized you when I watched a short you put out. I didn't really know from where it was I'd seen you until I watched this video. It sucks that you had been let go from TKOR, but it opens up opportunities for you to do your own thing and do what you want. I wish nothing but the best for you and everyone else that is working or has worked for the TKOR channel. And judging by your subscriber count, you seem to be doing well by yourself.
Randomly stumbled on this video and was surprised that's it's been an eternity since I've seen a TKOR video, I had no idea you had left. I stopped watching because I think I had outgrown the content, but always enjoyed your personality. It was cool hearing the entire timeline of what happened and that I have an entire backlog of new Nate videos to watch.
The reason I watched TKOR is because there’s always so much humor coming from you and Calli. The way the contents are presented and being genuine.
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So sorry to hear you're no longer with TKOR, Nate. I've been enjoying watching your content for years. I had met Grant a couple of times at local meetups but haven't had the chance to meet you yet. If you ever want to collab just hit me up. You're a standup guy and I'm wishing the best for you and TKOR as well.
same :(
Yeah. but he gets to live longer so. its great!
Wasnt Grant doing some scammy sounding conferences, selling tickets for very high prices for what was essentially just selling his own business plans back to people.
@@ac.creations He did partner up with Kris Krohn to put on a conference and my wife and I attended. We could have done without all of the Kris Krohn part of things (he's just not our cup of tea) but Grant's part was incredibly useful. He shared all of the specifics of how he built his business and how it runs. I have patterned a lot of my business goals off of how he set his business up and it's really smart. It's what allowed his channel to do as well as it did for years after he stepped largely away from it and even after his passing. Not a lot of channels are able survive without their founder like his did.
@@LRN2DIY I didnt mean to sound that agressive about it. At the time it seemed more "get rich quick" scheme.
You did a really great job on keeping us all intertain.We love you and support you.😃😃😃😃😃😃🥰🥰🥰