Science of Survival with Neil deGrasse Tyson & Dr. Teimojin Tan - Cosmic Queries
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- Can science help you survive in the Arctic? Neil deGrasse Tyson and co-hosts Chuck Nice and Gary O’Reilly learn about what happens to the body during starvation and harsh conditions from someone who’s been there with survival doctor, veteran, and contestant on Season 9 of Alone, Dr. Teimojin Tan.
We discover Arctic warfare and what it takes to survive in the wild. What will kill you first in a survival scenario? We rank the things you need to survive and explore the importance of companionship. Teimojin tells us about his experience living alone in the Arctic for 63 days and what methods he used to avoid drop shock. What is the hardest mental aspect of surviving alone?
Learn the stages of what the body goes through during starvation. What is it like to be a doctor and knowing exactly what's happening inside your body as it's happening? We discuss ketosis, the body’s metabolic rate in the Arctic, and what happens when your fat stores deplete. How do you prevent sickness in the wild? How would we deal with isolation and intense environments in space travel?
What are best practices for designing a shelter for extreme cold? We discuss fluid dynamics and how best to retain heat. Can humans survive on drinking their own urine? Learn why that’s not such a good idea in a survival situation. We explore the law of the end of the world, the realities of self-amputation, primitive methods for staving off infection, and even more…
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00:00 - Intro to Survival
7:00 - Death Sequence Ranked: Our Needs to Survive
10:30 - Experience on Alone
14:43 - Coping with Confinement
20:40 - Hallucination, Mentality, & Genghis Khan
24:32 - Stages of Starvation & Ketosis
30:35 - Preventing Sickness in the Wild
34:09 - Applying Survival to Space Travel
41:15 - Best Practices for Designing Shelter
43:51 - Is Drinking Urine Ever a Good Idea?
45:33 - Hallucinations at Altitude
48:48 - Apocalypse Preparation
50:35 - Staving Off Infection & Survival Medicine
54:28 - Can You Cut Off Your Own Limb? - Věda a technologie
How long do you think you could survive alone in the wilderness?
depends on what I had brought with me
Scout Motto: Be Prepared!
I've done a week... but prepared for it!
Until the day I die… But on a serious note - as long as I’m not stricken by serious illness / injury - and I’m in an environment capable of sustaining my basic needs - I could do it indefinitely…
How hard are you willing to try? What is the finish line? What awaits you on the other end? These answers will help determine how long someone will survive in any situation.
Real wilderniss?
I suppose a while.
I am fat and know how to destil water.
In a desert? 2 days tops.
A rainforest?
3 months tops.
That is if the disease and predators don't get me first.
And you
This was sort-of amusing but really frustrating in that I would have liked to hear more from Teimojin - y'all are too busy jumping lines and being funny to let him finish a thought.
Great episode!! But, just to be clear..NEIL AND CHUCK PLEASE!!!!! don't keep interrupting the host!!!!
many adults do this I dont believe they mean to be rude, and it often happens more than you think for the hosts and sometimes garry.
Working at a Max security prison for 13 years, watched as we released Max prisoners that spent years in solitary confinement, with no more than a small amount of money , a bus ticket and some new clothes, and folks wondered why they were back in less than a month. It had to be terrifying to leave your home for years getting meals, some minor counseling, and then sent out to fend for yourself.
Yea right
@@KirkTVOfficial you clearly have never been incarcerated or have had anyone who's been through the situation.
Some people are prisoners to sugar. Alcohol or nicotine. Social media etc
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Some people get scared of change!
I only watch episodes if chuck is there. Neil and chuck the best combo fr
Me too. Chuck is the MvP.
I just skip all other episodes without Chuck.
"Inexorably tethered to the corporeal" And this is why Chuck is known as Lord Nice... He just expanded my vocabulary :)
Please get this guy on again. I grew up watching Survivor Man, and have always been enamored by the way a single person is able to survive any kind of natural element thrown their way. Fantastic episode!
It is really amazing isn't it! In a way. It's using the elements to stop the elements right? Boats stop floods. Caves and strong shelters stop rains, but... I have yet to hear of some cooling event from nature during hot days.. water maybe but then ghosts like me would get lobstered 🦞 lol
I would love to join again, we have only scratched the surface! - Teimojin
9:42 I love to be alone. I don't need a dog or a pet, i'm emotionally content. From my experience, people who like other people are parasitic. And that's the reason they need to be around others (whether it's emotionally or financially). But i believe if you are a leader and self efficient in every way, then you end up not liking people at all. Of course, there are way more followers than leaders, so that explains the favoring statistics on why the masses of people need others.
Buddah says, "If you emerge from the cocoon of selfishness to realize the beauty of being a butterfly of responsibility, remaining caterpillars will tend to shun your enthusiasm."
Also, "This is why the path of spirituality is a lonely path. Once awakened, those friends still sleeping tend to disappear."
This was such a good episode
glad you liked it!
-Teimojin
About that loneliness part. I LOVED that about pandemic that I didn't have to meet other people. My parents and brothers cancelled easter because of pandemic so I didn't have to visit anybody and could stay at home (I live alone, never been in a relationship, never even dated) it was awesome! I wish they'd make a holiday commemorating the pandemic like one day full lockdown. But that won't happen because most people die when they don't have anyone to talk to.
Some people are comfortable being loners. People are never truly alone ..because as humans -we have the brain capacity to remember , analyze , store precise memories and perspective ... and most importantly- question and behold our existence. We're all living cinemas and viewers - with an endless amount of reels and high tech recording equipment.
I remember being far from my family for a little over a year. I would be so fine to be alone starting on a Friday night and going back to work on a Monday morning. My jaw would hurt when I had to talk my first words.
Same!!!
Also pondering on what could be; possibilities. I like problem solving, so having something to occupy my brain helps stave off loneliness. And pondering beyond one’s weight: trying to understand gravity, space-time, quantum etc. I won’t get there, but I’ll have fun trying.
In the throes of the pandemic I didn’t talk to as anyone for approx 3 wks. When I first talked my voice was hoarse, I had a hard time speaking. Seems that singing, grunting or talking to one’s self is not a bad idea.
Chuck is such a great question asker. Perfect together with Neil. Not only for comedic relief.
Neil is a wonderful orator.
Too bad he wasn't as a good a scientist as he is being an orator and celebrity.
Orator.
This was an engaging discussion. 🕺 Practicing gratitude and asking for what you need makes for a great daily practice.
It’s a difference in choosing to be alone rather than forced to be alone . I can choose all day to stay to self but if something catastrophic happens and I see I’m a lone survivor that may mess with me a bit .
more of this guys please!!! fascinating!!!
I just moved to the east coast! next one, i'll come to the studio! - Teimojin
It was interesting and scary at the same time. Mad respect to Dr.Tan for what he's done.
Thank you! much appreciated!
absolutely one of my favorite episodes so far!
This topic always makes me think of homeless people. Living in the street must be hard already but little is known regarding the mental consequences of homelessness and survivalism in the streets
I can't help but think that this has to do with the celebrations of the solstice and how people will travel such great distances just to gather together in huge numbers to celebrate something they agree on.
Grew up near Ft. Drum where tenth mountain division trains.
Moved to the Sonoran desert for 30 years, now I live next to the Central American rain forest .
70 years old, still here and on a motorcycle.
Your show is both entertaining and informative and funny!!
You got a trifecta baby!!
Lol..
Seriously, you guys are great!! I really like that Chuck is on most of these because he's frickin hilarious!! Very sharp, too, & well informed!!,
Trifectas all around!!
✌❤🔥
I sometimes get social battery for "using big words", aka speaking with linguistic precision. I love it that Neil called out Chuck for essentially the same thing. Because when I was younger, when being smart was a competition, precision of language was admired.
7:50 Stop the Bleeding is the second step in lifesaving. The first is Clear the Airway.
Depends what algorithm and context youre in. The Tactical Combat Casualty Care (TCCC) guidelines and the upcoming changes to the American Academy of Surgery's Advanced Trauma Life Support courses both recommend stopping obvious exsanguination first. Oftentimes, this evaluation and rapid treatment is going on simultaneously in your small team. -Teimojin
Neil... amazed at Chuck's profundity. 😮
Lord Nice....."It's spiritual in nature, but it's also so inevitably tethered to what is corporeal...!!!" Dude, f'ing words of wisdom that immediately make total sense, but I hadn't yet been able to connect. Thank you, Thanks to Neil, Gary, and Dr. Tam. This is VERY helpful conversation and conserdation as I am in the middle of both physical and existential struggles and survival. Chuck, my friend, you rock dude!
Dr Tan’s advice to wash wounds is spot on. I recently had a fight with a power tool and the treating doctor spent significant time irrigating the wound. Unfortunately it still became infected and I required antibiotics.
you tried your best though!
I feel gratitude from his experience. Thank you startalk🙏
glad you liked it!
@9:20 Speaking of "The Twilight Zone", I recently started rewatching the series and the 1st episode of the 1st season was exploring how traveling alone in space could possibly affect the mind of a traveler who was in stasis, at least how they imagined it would be at that time.
This was a great episode! Very informative.
Settlers, Pioneers, Trail Blazers, Frontier Men...
glad you like it!
17:40 , I occasionally starve 3 days a week with only water . truly a beautiful feeling how common senses work at optimum.
Neil and Chuck for 2024
@9:50 "The Twilight Zone" episode with Burgess Meridith as the sole survivor of some planet wide holocaust but was happy to be alone because he had access to all the books in the library but tragically broke his eyeglasses and was no longer able to read.
Loved this episode! So many different influences in this discussion. Thank you Dr Tan.
I am ADHD AF, however when I was in Iraq, it felt like in a way, my ADHD was mitigated. I am someone who relied on meds before the army, didn't take them while I was in, and I am them now again.
What that being said, I agree with Dr T, that after a while one becomes in tune with one's environment: the sounds of the environment (and when certain sounds are absent) , the pitches of a particular kind of weapon when it is fired, how far, etc.
When I told my psychiatrist this he told me and I think it's funny:
"The fear of death has a way of keeping one focused. "
There's a hypothesis that ADHD is a survival adaption. Distractability in our world is an ability to pick up threats in your surroundings in a hostile setting.
That's a very astute observation to keep in mind. I was raised in a mountain cabin, no running water, etc and even though we weren't alone, we understood very well that lapses in attention to the basics could have severe consequences including death. I get it
You should get Dr Tan on again with another fellow Canadian, survivalist Les Stroud, the original "Survivor Man". Peace, Calvin.
Les is a big hero of mine, would love to join that chat! - Teimojin
I totally understand what is being talked about in the video. I experienced this level of survival instinct in a city where I so supposedly filled with family and friends.
Love this video, I think I'll be coming back to rewatch it a few more times
You're all just So Much FUN!
😂😂😂 Chuck slipped a few more IQ points than Neil was expecting
lmao very true but did he sing tho?
Awesome episode! What a great conversation
That was way better then I coulda ever expected. Wow. right on.
Amazing episode as always! Lord Nice our Cosmic Comedian got DEEP in this one.
That was a fun episode. Thanks!
Excellent episode guys. Have to do episode 2
sign me up! -Teimojin
Loved this one!!
This was a great episode
First! Neil, thanks for being our personal astrophysicist
I found this episode of StarTalk to be the most intetesting ever! And that says a lot!!
Excellent show!! ❤❤
Human beings by nature are social beings as well as many living beings, but this experience makes us find out that human creativity can create a virtual society in order to domesticate it … This society may be a tree, a rock or an animal … as soon as the names give it here it’s the first stem to forming society and this makes us conclude that the names are one of the most Important element to start a society
Love this show!
That triple negative was crazy LOL But always a great time watching the show!
My favorite panel.🎉
So many bangers lately!
I'm Puertorican "Boricua"
I'm grateful for your report.
But I have to tell you it's missing the last 20 years.
Of social, infrastructure and economic challenges implemented by one direction interest.
Please keep the good work and finish the story 🙏🏻
It would be easier to follow this wonderful doctor's viewpoint and heartfelt experience without the constant interruptions of Mr. Nice.
I was on bowel rest for 3 months one time, no food.. I was never malnourished at the time, but always hungry and unable to eat. I can confirm that starvation has some pretty incredible psychological effects over a period. Starvation like I had never experienced before.
As far as the "being alone" goes, i just could not stop thinking no matter how introverted..or simply enjoy time alone of a person you are, you just would go crazy without companionship. It might not be bad for the first couple days or even week(s) but after fighting the harsh elements by yourself, something might happen inside that makes you either want help, love, or to show off your prowess of what you could do on your own.
However. I did just say this while listening to fastinating people on my mobile divice comfy in my home.... ao idk
This conversation was so interesting 😮
Thanks!
I worked on resolution island off of iquluit (frobisher bay) the polar beers would smell, us out and head towards our work camp from 8 miles away you could,d see their tracks from the air amazing
I knew a guy who went up to a small town in Alaska and had some extra time. He went for a walk. The people in the village were appalled because polar bears would come into town and take people.
Former survivalist lol. Thank you guys for the always fascinating, educational and funny content ❤
Earth needs to develop the means to preserve Neil deGrasse Tyson for the end of world rule.
We're a social species. You think you want to be alone until you're REALLY alone.
No kidding!
I agree most people are. People like me are not. Idiots, “Karen’s”, bad drivers, people with kids who don’t know how to parent, people who think they are better than everyone are just a short list of reasons why I would rather be alone. Parties, social gatherings, restaurants, inviting people over, “hanging out” with “friends” are completely overrated concepts. We do not need other people in our lives but we are trained from a young age to do so and therefore in school and adult life we are pressured to do this and look like that and make this amount of money, have these things, and blah blah blah. Once you tune it out and only rely on yourself, your whole perspective changes.
I'm fine being alone. That is my default setting
@@therealmikejones4619 thanks for the laughs, everything about your comment is just priceless. God bless ya lol.
@@chaosking911 I was thinking about the same thing, While there are detriments to living in society and sometimes I hate it to the point of thinking about ending it or running away, finding the balance between having a loving community and learning from their unique thoughts and life experiences, sharing those thoughts and moments could be considered the highlights of human experience.
Although living a life of hermitage with minimal intervention and a community of similar minded individuals with different artistic, philosophical, scientific ambitions would be heaven on earth
Oh! It's fun to learn about Dr. Tan being named after Genghis Khan! But all I have to say to Dr Tyson is: why can't both be true at the same time, isn't it what Quantum Physic teaches us?
Will this talk include disappearances in the woods and the preventive actions to escape them? David Paulides' subscriber here! Hugs
Welcome to Chuck's show.
Gratuitous comment to help your channel survive in the cold harsh environment of social media algorithms.
Thoughtful of you...
The skills needed to survive in the wilderness and the skills needed to survive on the streets as a homeless person are transferable and I know this from experience.
Chuck nailed that !
Teimojin is a beautiful name and hats off for surviving everything! Such an interesting topic, I could listen to it for hours. Also its absolutely awesome that you kept your hair healthy while doing so! 😂 🫧
good episode
This was very interesting
LOVE THIS THANKS FOR THE GREAT TOPICS
Well this has confirmed that a survival situation wouldn't offer much of a "life" except the slow and futile fight to stay alive. It might make me a little more grateful however for the insane luxuries of modern medicine and technology that keep us alive today.
It's 3:00am in India, you uploaded it😅,,
I recently watched Quantumania
I too was watching it..
@@shivamrockstar17 I liked the movie , but why many people don't liked it. Great concept story used.
@@nikhil777x the CGI was great, story was cool, maybe people don't like where phase 4 of MCU is heading towards.
I know this doesn’t have much to with the episode but Mars!
After we set up an outpost on mars, and a little while later we decide to set up a small scientific colony, we have ship. A massive ship that travels to mars. Would we be able to make a ship that has a gravitational pull that forces an orbit? Could we send pods of materials that follow around the ship without technology with a gravitational pull?
Chiming in on the Ketosis part. I was diagnosed with Type2 Diabetes a few years ago. But on Keto I am diabetes free.
I'm 39 now. Too much suger, overweight, self-imposed.
I shifted to a strict Keto-diet a year ago, ignoring my doctors advice for a proper diabetes diet. I cut carbs and went all in with fat and protein (pork rinds are a godsend). I no longer have Diabetes (I do, but blood-sugars are normal and safe). It works for me and my doctor conceded when they got the first blood-test results a half year later.
Of course, I will recommend talking to your doctor.
Please look up the energy balance podcast to learn why keto is NOT the answer to diabetes long term. More of a band aid than a cure. There is a dark side to keto over time. I wish you the best of health.
Teimojin said that the brain prefers sugars in the blood. The body gets rid of sugar first, to prevent damage, so that it can use ketones.
Think about Mark Watney on Mars in "The Martian", or cosmonauts carrying firearms because they could land in the Siberian tundra and have to protect themselves from wolves and bears until help arrives.
My favorite part of, "The Martian," is when he lit the fire. Something I would have done. Hey, here's my eyebrow! ;-P
Or Mann in Interstellar
More please!
Starvation is something humans evolved to deal with. It is why we pile on fat so easily. But since it happened so often, we needed to be able to still function even though we were devouring our own fat stores and eventually muscle to persist until food happened again. It is something we can get somewhat used to.
We can even voluntarily not eat right up to the point of dying, either through sheer willpower or through emotional disorder. Hunger strikers and anorexics do this.
OMG! Soooo good..stayin’ Aliiiiiive”!
As far as the "being alone" goes, i just could not stop thinking no matter how introverted..or simply enjoy time alone of a person you are, you just would go crazy without companionship. It might not be bad for the first couple days or even week(s) but after fighting the harsh elements by yourself, something might happen inside that makes you either want help, love, or to show off your prowess of what you could do on your own .
The movie "passengers" ...
One right person is more than enough.
truth chuck is still going strong so
Love this
1:15 Survival is about two things:
1. Your will to continue; and,
2. How creative you can be, given your environment and whatever is available.
So yes, Gary, scientific knowledge is extremely beneficial.
Shout out to Neil knowing the movie Quite Earth! Staring Bruno Lawrence musician and actor.
I am your fan! Kisses from Brasil, with S!
39:00 Don't forget Cast Away staring Wilson the volley ball
As part of Survival Training out on the Tundra with the British Army 🇬🇧💂🏻, you are taught “Cleanliness is next to Godliness” as Infection Control could make the difference between Life and Death ☠️.
Sphagnum Moss is a natural occurring astringent, and can be used like a sponge to clean a wound, or can be used as a Field Dressing to protect an open wound.
I’ve had to put my Training to good use following a near-fatal Hiking Accident on the east face of Lochnagar, a mountain in Aberdeenshire, where we had to use pads of Sphagnum Moss to dress a deep open wound, before binding it tight with Crepe Bandages prior to escorting the casualty off the mountain to hospital.
Bog Myrtle has similar astringent properties as well when boiled in water and left to cool.
I'm from the Port Elgin area, it's just outside of Owen Sound.
I survived too Chuck! Thanks for recognizing the struggle. Stay woke (the black and true definition).
18:00 This was, genuinely, the peak of human intelligence for over 200,000 years. Any hunter-gatherer would absolutely be a very very talented expert at how to hunt for food. This is not to say that was better or worse than how we value intelligence now. Instead, it is to say: pre-agricultural humans were just as smart as us, but used their intelligence on different skills.
Is anyone else bothered by the fact that at 6:46 they asked him a question "What is your *can't leave home without it* item?" and then as he was about to answer, immediately interrupted him and never came back to that question?
I for one really would have liked to hear Dr. Tan's answer.
If you were bothered enough to make a comment not even a tenth of the way through the episode, maybe this show isn't for you.
@@scy1038 What? I watched the entire episode and then made my comment. That's why I know that question was never answered.
The wim hof method is a huge benefit for any situation. Just saying
I the question about socializing comes down to programming from a young age. Most of us have been programmed to be social and rely on a community to survive. I wonder if a human is programmed at an young age that life is mostly solitude would they experience the issue of loneliness?
A really good movie that kinda gave the real feeling of the show Alone, and really gave a mental aspect of changes and survival and what you're willing to do to survive, was the 1983 movie Never Cry Wolf.
Dr. Tyson, I have a question. Static electricity can overcome gravity via the pull of the charges.
Can an apparatus be invented to lock onto charged particles of an object and be used as an alternative form of travel while in space?
It's different when you choose to be alone and can just push a button and you're back with society than when you are lost and don't expect that you will ever come back.
Get this guy back on
37:08 I think Neil just had a proud dad moment