How Super Mario Bros. Wonder Is ALMOST Perfect- A CRITICAL Review (Spoiler FREE)
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- čas přidán 18. 10. 2023
- Super Mario Bros. Wonder is the newest Super Mario game for the Nintendo Switch and the first 2D Mario game since New Super Mario Bros. U. Many were VERY excited for the game. Myself included. After playing it, the game is VERY CLOSE to perfection. But unfortunately, it has some problems that need to be addressed, and should not have been there in the first place. What exactly are they? But could Super Mario Bros. Wonder still be the BEST Mario game EVER made?
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Daisy being playable was thanks to the director's daughters always fighting over who plays as Peach.
I wish they fought over Wario and Waluigi
@@Demeechlol.
@@kieranstark7213 I used to watch her. I lost interest in Pokémon, but she is great
That was me and my sister when we were kids 😂
Is this true? Where can I find a source to this? I’m assuming an interview somewhere
Remember kids: if you do Wonder Flowers, you'll go to the Underwhere before you Game Over
Genius right here
…Please
The dual reference to the Mario Brothers Super Show and Super Paper Mario though
i love SPM so much
Ha! This dude said underwear
Was I the only one who thought I’d have to fight the master poplin at the end of shining falls as a kind of final test of strength? Proving you’re worthy to protect the royal seed or something? That would’ve been so cool and I was really disappointed when he just handed it to me. Like think how sick that would’ve been. You’re both atop the shining falls under that golden diamond thing and he’s bouncing all over the place, disappearing and throwing ninja stars or something.
They should add this as a game style if they ever make mario maker 3
Wdym "If they ever"? They're saving it for the next console, it would make no sense to release it near the end of the Switch unless it's a dual release
@PigeonNintendo Now that I think about it it makes sense
I love bowser jr. He is one of my favorite Mario characters and he consistently has some of the best boss fights in the entire series but him being the only boss in the game (besides the final boss) is beyond lame. I am so sick of the koopalings and I was so happy to see that they weren’t in wonder and I was excited to see what original bosses the developers were going to cook up but all the bosses just being Jr is so lame and what makes it even worse is that there isn’t even a Bossfight in every world. I’m still really excited for this game but I would be lying if I said my hope hasn’t been dampened a little bit. With the whole wonder effect thing there are so many types of fun and cool bosses they could have come up with. What makes this even sadder is that the developers were talking about how they made it a priority to try and make the bosses more dynamic💀
Facts!
I don’t really get what the koopalings have to do with boss quality, they’re certainly better than fighting the same boss over and over again as they are at least different from each other in character and theme
Great, thanks for spoiling that all the bosses are Bowser jr.
@@davidpacifico1019 The thing is though, their just that, fighting the same thing over and over again. Bowser jr. in Wonder is pretty much what the Koopalings are in the 2D Mario, the same boss with a different coat of paint, that can be easily cheesable with enough players or just waiting for him to get done with his attack. except in this case he somewhat has more time to do his attack.
@@Mymy_64they are different from each other though, they all have different gimmicks Jr is literally the same everytime
I genuinely can’t wait to play the game tomorrow. I haven’t been this excited for a game release in years. The bosses apparently sucking is a shame, I’m just glad it’s not the Koopalings again.
Tbh I'd rather have the Koopalings under Wonder Effects
@@Demeech a opinion i agree with
@@Demeech actually now that I think of it there is a lot of potential with that.
Also I think I should say that maybe this isn’t overall the most excited I’ve been for a game in years, as I was also really hyped for Pikmin 4 and TOTK this same year. 2023 has been the gift that keeps on giving for gaming.
Me too I love the koopalings
Tonight @ 11:59 et
I absolutely cannot wait to get my hands on Super Mario Wonder and Sonic Superstars when I’m finally back home cause we’re gonna have a multiplayer fiasco
I still need to get Super Stars
@@DemeechDon’t get it on Steam Deck if you have one. You can’t get past the Epic Games launcher.
@@Demeech it's great! a bit unpolished in some areas tho but it's def one of the best classic sonic games
I love how music was a key part of the actual gameplay, no spoilers but it made for some amazing moments
Plant parade was a big surprise to me and i loved it
I didn't let jump jump jump beat me 😅
I honestly can't wait to finally have the game in my hands tomorrow. This is the first time I'm legitimately excited to play a 2D Mario game. 2023 is the year that keeps on giving, first Tears of the Kingdom, then Pikmin 4, and now Super Mario Bros. Wonder. I don't want this year to end. Such a Wonderful review from my amazing gator buddy! Loved the bit where you went nuts on the Wonder Flower, your style of humor always gets me to chuckle! ;)
Remember to stay away from the Wonder Mushroom now, because, you know, if you take the latter, you'd go to hell before you die.
I was on the same boat as you when it came to not wanting another 2D Mario. But Nintendo absolutely deliverered!
I've been playing Mario Wonder by myself and, as of writing this comment, just reached the game's ending and am very close to 100% completing it.
What you said in this video basically matches my viewpoint, thus I agree... However, for the case of Yoshi and Nabbit being *journalist mode* characters, I would've suggested giving them limited hp, and make power-ups restore lost hp while still not transforming them.
Overall, amazing Mario game, and undoubtedly among the best of Nintendo Switch's game library.
Are you on drugs? Mario wonder is a terrible game. Biggest waste of money and one for the worst games you can buy on Nintendo. Game was an extreme disappointment. Nothing about it was good.
I've been waiting for these types of reviews
What did you think?
Great review, glad to see that you enjoyed it. The point about the bosses is kinda unfortunate, but everything else is exactly what im looking for. Can't wait to play tomorrow!
Thank you! I'll always remember that you made the Petey Twitter account
@@DemeechI'm just gonna be meeeee, I'm just gonna be PETEYYYY
Those tinier levels feel like those levels that were in New Super Mario Bros U when you selected the other mode not the main story mode. Like the ones where you had the glide with the acorn leaf and if you touch the ground it instantly made you a game over.
Definitely the best 2D Mario we've gotten in awhile.
Is It one of the best up there with super Mario Bros 3 and super Mario world tho?
@@Xf3rnaPlaysimo yes
It's also the only 2D Mario we've gotten in a while. Seriously, NSMBU was 2012
Hot take: I am very sad they removed collision for multiplayer. Being able to jump on each other to reach high places and carry each other...or ground pound them and throw them into pits? They're all part of the co-op experience. Without that, you may as well be playing by yourself, since you can't really help each other, outside of saving ghosts and defeating bosses.
Same
Yeah but for a lot of people, bouncing into other people and messing them up for those who actually want to play the game seriously. Sure it is fun if you don’t care about seriously completing the game but for some, collision is quite annoying
I will say, I really enjoyed the separate life counters as well, since you could poke fun of whoever was doing the worst. XD
Regardless, I'm absolutely looking forward to playing this with my dad and sister!
Exactly! They took the "operative" out of "cooperative!"
That's not at all a hot take. The game is garbage and frankly it's going to be a while before people realize that.
"Nintendo really should release Toad audio books". Haha good stuff, 😅(his voice is so funny)!
Its insane how Nintendo dropped two of their best titles in ONE year. Reminds me of 2017... (Tears of the Kingdom is the other game this year im referring towards)
Nah tears is not even close of being of of their best titles its prety much the worst imo , and mario wonder just released judge it after you have played it please.
@@monkeygameplay5455 lmao wtf are you on 💀 name some other games nintendo has released that compares to totk.. Pikmin? Pokémon dlc 😂 come on bruh
@@Jbswe majoras mask , ocarina of time , mario odyssey ,mario64 , the first zelda (way less full of emptiness) , mmm yeah pretty much all nintendo titles (doshin the giant compares to totk of how bad it is).
@@monkeygameplay5455they meant this year i think
@@Boykee1 then all other games except totk that nintendo released lol
I thought the bosses were underwhelming and some anticlimactic but the final boss was great having to go along with the beat. This game was Mario Bros the musical.
To those that didn't want the koopalings to be in this Mario game congrats you got what you wished for.
And so the Kong Paw curls…
But was it worth it though. 🤔
but what they really asked for was interesting boss fights 😂
@WilliamWatrous Now, people are complaining that they don't want a majority of Bowser Jr. fights, man, people just can't seem to make up their minds.
I want good fights, The koopalings are definitely capable of that if Nintendo wants to, since they have magic and personality (although usually limited to the RPGs)
Great review. So glad you did it. I'll be picking up a copy this weekend
Man,$60 for this amount of content compared to odyssey. Wonder should be a $30-$40 game.
Thanks for the great review, well done :)
Thanks for watching!
With the music stages standing out, I’m suprised they didn’t do a paper Mario gooper blooper reference in there somewhere, the whole wonder effect thing would cover it perfectly for a water world. Heck, do a deep cut with lava piranha or throw in a shroob or something. At least then it would once again match the idea of never knowing what comes will happen in future castles.
"Nintendo has seen a Demeech video confirmed!"
That gave me a good chuckle, anyway AMAZING review. Good Job on explaining it really good!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Will there be additional returning power ups? (i.e. Tanooki Suit, Ice Flower, etc.)
I played it and last weekend when I got my copy and I loved it, I tried to play as little as I possibly could since I was busy with sonic superstars but it was amazing
Finishing worlds 3 and 5 with no boss fight has to be one of the worst feelings I’ve ever had with a Mario game. It just feels so wrong.
"eww, changings"
Its been a while that I didn't had this much fun playing a videogame, SMBW surpassed my expectations
WHERE IN THE ACTUAL F- IS THE ROLL, THE SUPER PEELOUT, THE RACCOON SUIT AND THE DIVE?!?!?!
I know that most people won't really make that big of a stink over this, but I will. The lack of character variety for this game's boss fights pisses me off royally! Why is it that Nintendo never gives a s### about trying to make bosses in their modern 2D Mario games as engaging as their platforming and level design?! Oh, they'll put effort into the Bowser fights, but the Koopalings? Make it so every time they do their stupid shell attack upon getting jumped on, they can immediately get jumped on as soon as they pop out before being able to do anything else!
And just when they finally learned their lesson by having Bowser Jr get mercy invincibility after his shell attacks, they decide to only use him for every f###-ing fight besides the final boss! For a game that they promoted for it's creativity, to not give us any character variety for this game's boss fights is just infuriating! How hard would it really have been for Nintendo to give us some other boss characters to fight? Even if it was the Koopalings again, I would have been happier, what with the Wonder Flower Effects changing things up and actually giving them mercy invincibility, but no! Let's just reuse the same stupid character over and over again! They didn't even care enough to have EVERY world end with a boss fight in this game! That's right, some of the worlds in this game don't even get to end things off with a proper climax! Why does it have to be so much to ask for a 2D Mario game to have a decent line-up of varied bosses that aren't so easily cheesed?!
Oh, I went on about it in this review. Such a disappointment.
@@Demeech I know you talked about it, but I still felt like ranting about it, thank you. Of course, my rant wasn't only about bosses in this game but pretty much every other mainline 2D Mario. It just vexes me how Nintendo can't seem to ever make a 2D mainliner that prioritizes engaging and varied boss line-ups as much as platforming and level design. Have you seen how people cheese the Koopalings in their playthoughs of such games? They just keep exploiting their faulty shell attack patterns and lack of mercy invincibility to the point where they can't even attack with their wands.
My gamestop is hosting an 11pm release ton. I absolutely can't wait
While I do consider this the best 2D Mario game ever made (for far too many reasons to mention), I'm still a bit irked about Yoshi being an easy mode character (even if there *ARE* levels that are not made any less challenging by playing as him, and I'll always choose him for those levels since, being Yoshi, he fully deserves it) and the fact that Junior is the boss of *EVERY* single castle outside of the final one (but then again, that too has something redeeming it, namely the fact that all of the boss battles are unique in their own way, not to mention Junior's Wonder form looks sick as hell ngl).
Overall, I can safely say that Super Mario Bros. Wonder is indeed the Odyssey that 2D Mario was so desperately in need of. I wish Bowser had been given all-new henchmen for the game to serve as bosses (like how Odyssey did with the Broodals), and have Wonder Junior just be the semi-final boss.
Bowser Jrs wonder form is badass
@@barelyhere7200 frfr, if only the CZcamsr SML was still allowed to use Nintendo plushies, then we would've 100% been getting a video based on junior's wonder form around this time
Game is really easy without playing in easy mode. Just play Yoshi and enjoy. Awesome game but it is very easy.
New Super Mario Bros Wii: am i a joke to you?
I liked the Broodals. Your points are spot on btw!
Idk if I said it to you or someone else with a similar issue previously, so sorry if I’m treading old ground. But I feel like you repeat the same notes when speaking… if that makes sense. Like I can recognize a few very specific unnatural patterns in every sentence, and you consistently end a lot of sentences on the exact same note. Still a solid video, but it was a little jarring.
The two main gripes I’ve seen in reviews for this game are the difficulty and length. Two words solve both of those issues. SPECIAL WORLD
Agree on the controls, they're soo buttery smooth
Great seeing Domooch here
I cannot wait to get this game for my birthday
WONDERFUL review of a WONDERFUL game!
Wonderful comment from a WONDERFUL guy!
@@Demeech I feel so flattered. Thanks!
I would have loved it if you could place Yoshi and he would play similarly to Yoshi's Island where eating enemies gives you eggs and you can throw them.
They could make it so that nabbing a power up gives You full egg stock
How long isthe game?
I still can't believe this game is real. While 2 stinkers are noticeable like Yoshi & Nabbit being Game Journalist Modes, as well as every boss being almost the same, the rest of the game is genuinely exceptional. And while wishing for a returning villain or a new villain that's not Bowser is a personal nitpick, that won't deter my enjoyment when I finally play this game.
That being said, I would kill for the next 2D Mario to be on par with this one. And maybe the next 3D Mario will also be in a new location.
What would be a really cool addition or dlc, is if there was a Wario Land themed dlc where in the end, you fight Captain Syrup. It would be cool if Wario and Waluigi were added with their own movesets too, like they have the dash from the Wario Land series, at the cost of worse acceleration to top speed, and slightly worse jump height
Or just make a dlc with better bosses as I’m sure that’s gonna be the number 1 complaint. 🤷♂️😅
Waluigi has always been exclusive to sports/party games, him ever being playable in a mainline Mario game is extremely unlikely
@@darkblue133 wonder is weeiirdd though
I am happy that the easy mode characters can bump off of enemys instead of walking through them. That way it keeps some challenge because if you aren’t careful, you can fall in a pit.
Actually thats just yoshi nabbit can walk through them(despite him screaming a little) which is why i use nabbit a little more than yoshi despite his flutter jump being very usefull
How did you play it early?
4:08 for a minute I thought he said fuckin berry and I started dying 😂
LMAO
How is the difficulty compared to Tropical Freeze? Which is my favourite platformer- also, is this better overall?
the game is incredibly easy with the exception of a few levels, and even the harder levels aren't that hard
@@WilliamWatrous*Final courses be like*
8:13 I also spent hours on this game stomping on… KOOPAS
22:28 Small correction.
Daisy was recast (voiced by Giselle Fernandez instead of Deanna Mustard), but Yoshi was not. Nabbit however, was recast (voiced by Dawn M. Bennett instead of Natsuko Yokoyama).
14:48 where can I get this sound effect and the wonder mushroom png 🤔
Fuzzy sound effect: Yoshi's Island
@@Demeech thanks demeech 😀
I honestly think that the bosses section deserved a demeech’s fury section
My review this time gonna be a bit different instead of covering the entire game or the handicaps I want to cover more my personal main issue with wonder nor I gonna give it a tier rank yet
Neat
I caught that Chris Pratt "stomping on KOOPAS" reference
Having completed the game 100%, it really is quite good, but it feels like something is missing. There was something about SMWorld that made the levels feel like actual locations. SMWonder’s levels are kind of like 3DWorld’s. They’re more like ideas than places.
What was the one boss you thought was awesome?
The final boss
how did you get the game early? Did Nintendo give you a review copy?
In other countries outside of the US, vendors sometimes break Street Date
19:33 OOOHHH thats where that danm missing coin was
regarding the hidden block levels, these are supposed to be played with multiple people, online or local; finding the solution is easier with more hands. i really enjoyed playing them online and leaving standees as hints for other players, though i admit that requiring nso or multiple players and controllers is iffy
Though I think the Music and Wonder Jr’s desigh holds up the boss fights for me. Though I can’t deny the fights should go on one phase longer and then they should have had a few other bosses besides Jr have some mid world bosses too.
Thought this at the time but even now we're half way thru 2024, 2023 was easily top 2 years for Switch, Pikmin 4 TOTK and Wonder in the same year is crazy
Thank you
This is a Blue Toad 🐸Neighborhood. Yellow Toads Keep Moving.
How are you able to play this game already? It doesn’t come out until tomorrow.
Got a physical copy that broke street date
@@Demeech ah
Awesome
14:25 you played the fuzzy sound effect from Yoshi's Island which would actually make sense given what the wonder flower does, yet you put the Weird Mushroom?
Huh, he knows about Yoshi's Island but keeps forgetting that Yoshi was invincible in that game without that damn baby.
it's weird to me that the reception to this game has been so much more positive than recent mario sidecrollers. Do gamers _really_ value little visuals flourishes _that_ much? Because Wonder is really that much different as a _game_ than the previous few entries.
It's actually _worse_ in some ways. Wonder Flowers are neat, but it becomes apparent pretty quickly that gameplay also takes a turn toward being more shallow and linear than the game's base gameplay once they become active. And they also gutted Mario's kit of actions so they could tie them to Badges, which often just give you one of the lost abilities in a truncated way.
Sure, it's nice to see the games having a bit more personality, but it hardly does enough for the game to elevate to the extent that it justifies how much better the reception has been.
Don't say this anywhere online! You'll get absolutely crucified for having this completely valid opinion. Anyone saying this game is *perfect* or anywhere near it is absolutely insane to me and are people I know not to seeing video game reviews from
I have it preordered. Gamestop said I can come in and pick it up at midnight along with Spiderman 2 but I'm drinking tonight so tomorrow is the better option lol.
Looks awesome but I just feel weird spending nearly $100cnd for a 2D sidescroller but that's the way it goes..
Welp, as I promised I gonna drop my review about my main issue with wonder and that is the boss line up is failing in so many levels that I gonna split up to sections:
The first is in veraity, not the biggest issue generally speaking but this boss line not offer quality in fights beside the final boss nor quantity either, bowser jr isn't your SA2 shadow or DMC3 vergil and defenitley not feel too justified to appear over and over other than being in your way.
The second issue is how the boss line up don't excuse to be bare bone say what you will on the koopaling overuse at least they change it enough so it is acceptable. This isn't in some the standards of the og SMB I would say is in the 3 worst boss line ups in mario and even high on my top 10 worst boss line ups.
And last in my opinion the most important thing in a boss line up it failing at being a pivot point for the game to rise in difficulty, a good boss should preapare all of you skills you learned and see how you execute your mastery, yet wonder don't provide it really like for example the gimmick of the final boss literraly came a bit before it did have some tutorial but I do wish said gimmick would have been on it's world specifically.
And yeah what I want to point out I do think the boss line up really ruin wonder for me to some degree like as a game I say is better than odyssey which I like but it hasn't aged the best if you ask me but wonder became more a pick your poison case I do really hope we gonna have DLC so at least we have a proper boss line up
The 4-star levels are war crimes, especially the rainbow one.
Apparently the reason why Daisy is a playable character is because one of the directors has 2 daughters so he didn’t want them to fight over who will play as the princess so he put 2 in
25 hours on average for 100% might be a bit high of an estimate, I got there in a bit under 13 hours, and How Long To Beat says about 17 hours on average. Though you could easily spend that amount in the game if you also do multiplayer.
@Deemech have you ever played Yoshi's Island? Its really a game that deserves more love. Its my personal favorite 2d platformer ever.
Yes! Love it!
Bro during the outro I thought I heard my phone dialling because I have it as my ringtone
That's happened a lot
Happy wonder flower tripping everyone
In short: It's a Game that makes you never Sleep...
Is the digital version out now?
No
Yes
I'm gonna be honest with you, Demeech. Though, I only played the demo, it definitely surpassed my expectations. I honestly think Super Mario Bros. Wonder is a legit contender for GOTY (not that the Game Awards matter but, I digress)
I do wish we had more power ups, such as returning ones like the Cape Feather or the Blue Shell, but the ones we got are pretty lit. I still can't believe Nintendo made one of your ideas canon! 11:05
Also, I get the weird feeling that the Drill Mushroom is gonna be an item for the next Mario Kart game (assuming Nintendo even makes it)
Regarding Mario's new VA, he seems fine. I know this isn't really mentioned in the video but I don't get why he got a lot of flak for being a "no-name" VA. Charles had a background in advertising and prior to his role in Mario Teaches Typing 2, no one knew who he was either. Plus Kevin has been doing the voices for the Nintendo Directs so I don't really get the hate. He sounds fine.
Good review as always, Demeech!
Excellent comment! The demo gave you a decent taste of what to expect, but the full game really went above and beyond. Thank you for the insightful comment!
@@Demeech You're welcome! You're definitely the goat when it comes to Nintendo content! Glad my insight is helpful to you! :)
I saw a loading screen saying Daisy is the princess of sarasaland. NINTENDO REFERENCED SUPER MARIO LAND IN A LOADING SCREEN.
this guy gets it
Somehow from my point of view: This game almost has a bunch of similarities from Super Mario world and Super Mario Land 2
It's definitely more of it's own thing. But still has the creativity of those games
And Super Mario 3.
@@Demeech Exactly!
7:46 you know what they say the more sonic the merrier
even though this is mostly spoiler free, i did just get spoiled on a new double jump badge at 5:06 and the spring jump badge at 10:28
This game still feels like a fever dream, but the good kind, the only thing that disappointed me about this game was Yoshi being invincible and uh
*THE "WRITERS" BARELY DISGUISED FETISH*
3 hours!!!!!!!!! Until release
I love bubble yellow toad because it reminds me of wario, i freaking love wario. Fire yellow toad looks like he’s repling McDonald’s drip tho 🔥
I wasn't aware that the Yoshis were invincible/easy mode. That's such a stupid design decision, honestly.
Wario and Waluigi teaming up with Mario and Luigi in a mainline game is everyone's dream, and it would make for so many unique and hilarious moments. It's just too bad that Nintendo is so strictly, vehemently opposed to the idea of Wario and Waluigi showing up in a mainline game - they're so opposed to it that even the prospect of enormous success and profit doesn't move them at all. It's truly one of the mysteries of the gaming industry.
2D Mario got proper voice acting before Pokémon. Why am I not surprised?
And yet, if a mainline Pokémon game gets voice acting, it will be the worst game, either because the voice acting will be the only thing they will focus upon, or be so horrendous that everything else, as “polished” as it would be, would be nothing compared to that millstone.
Because the developers of Wonder actually care about putting out a quality game
You can make your own rules and restart the level if you take a certain amount of hits.
setting your own rules is never as fun as the game being innately challenging
I would buy a dlc just to play at least Green Yoshi with all the power ups ❤
I would like this game but there is a bunch of other games I need to get I might get it in 3 years unless I win the lottery
15:00 😪 The dumm elephant power should have been a water device like sunshine.
Ala Gold
Buckenberry
Purely Pink
Reddy Raspy
Floral Foe
YES
Totk which is a bio recycled game with the game itself being a flaw(like healing in the pause menu) perfect
Mario wonder fresh game with a unique element in each stage Nearly perfect🤔
25:34 is so damn cheesy that it's hilarious!
I'm not cheesy! I'm just corny!
18:05 NSMBDS and that episode aired on the same day.
Honestly if they wanted an easy mode they should’ve just made an easy mode not restricting cool characters to them.
Yeah Nintendo needs to add wario and waluigi
Man, Donkey Kong is my favourite gaming series, and I prefer DK Country Returns on 3DS to DK Tropical Freeze!
it's funny that the worst aspects of both Mario Wonder and Sonic Superstars are the bosses
Wheres normal toad?
bowser playable next game