How to Burn Down Your Model Railway | Train Motor Meltdowns

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  • Ever had a motor failure on your model railway? I have!
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  • @pacificcy3182
    @pacificcy3182 Před 3 lety +8

    Me: Anything can be a smoke machine if you operate it wrong enough.
    Sam with that motor: *S t o n k s*

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 3 lety

      haha I agree with that whole heartedly! ;D
      Thanks for watching, Sam :)

  • @robmasterman
    @robmasterman Před 4 lety +27

    That was very interesting Sam, and clearly shows that despite the wonderful detail achieved in today's models, without powerful and reliable motors, then it all a waste of money...Bob

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety +4

      Yeah you're right Bob - I've never been a fan of these daft little motors ;)
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @wolfzillaproductions4563
    @wolfzillaproductions4563 Před 2 lety +2

    The 14XX was just trying to go thermonuclear like Godzilla 😂
    This was both fun to watch and interesting, keep that railway safe my friend ^^

  • @reliantrailways
    @reliantrailways Před 4 lety +67

    How to burn down your model railway:
    'they had is in the first half, not gonna lie'
    Good video Sam!

  • @godzillahomer
    @godzillahomer Před 4 lety +32

    5:57 smoke from the cab windows, you say
    you sure it broke down? driver and fireman might just be on a overly long smoke break, it'd explain the smell ;)

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety +3

      haha darn it - that must be what happened! :O
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

    • @gamingwithlukeJToH
      @gamingwithlukeJToH Před 22 dny

      either that, or SUPER realistic firebox detail!

  • @alexandergonyea4642
    @alexandergonyea4642 Před 2 lety +6

    As somebody who's been inspired to potentially start my own model railway collection some day, your channel definitely is useful for things like what models to avoid and maintaining the ones I do get, given they require a lot more maintenance than I would have initially thought. Excellent work!

  • @cubox1696
    @cubox1696 Před 4 lety +74

    No one:
    Not a single soul:
    Sam:
    *HOW TO BURN DOWN YOUR MODEL RAILWAY*

  • @lewispeake6691
    @lewispeake6691 Před 4 lety +3

    I thought I was going blind because I couldn't see any smoke. But then I realised my brightness was low so I turned it up. Very interesting and handy video Sam thanks

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety +2

      haha yeah - it was tricky to see on camera!
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @qautles5259
    @qautles5259 Před 3 lety +6

    Sam is the only one that can keep me entertained while he fixes a train

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 3 lety +3

      Awhh that's lovely to hear!! :D
      Merry Christmas - Sam :)

  • @RailsAndContrails
    @RailsAndContrails Před 2 lety +7

    One of my Bachmann 2-8-0s was running and it stopped on a curve and I saw smoke coming from underneath the drivers and turned it off right away luckily I was able to replace the motor and get it working again but then a week later the side rods got messed up while it was running and I’m not sure how to fix it so I was thinking about sending it over to see if you could fix it. Great video by the way. Thanks, Rails Of The East Coast

  • @TheGWRailfan
    @TheGWRailfan Před 4 lety +18

    Me at the end there: this seems really stupid and dumb
    Sam: "let's leave the rag there and see it it sets 🔥"
    Me: oh wow Sam has gone mental

  • @thewrays491
    @thewrays491 Před 4 lety +6

    When Sam says meltdown you know it’s good to pay attention to him

  • @jonswinfield9336
    @jonswinfield9336 Před 3 lety +5

    Great video Sam 👍
    I like the investigation into why it happened
    And of course the fact you’re not frightened to have ago
    Or try things out
    Keep it up👍😊

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 3 lety +1

      Thanks a lot Jon - glad you enjoyed the sciency bit, haha! ;D
      Thanks for watching, Sam :)

  • @trainwild
    @trainwild Před rokem

    Great video Sam! I just found your channel and subscribed. Very nice instructional video. Love your train collection, it's awesome! 👍

  • @comradeopthomasthehedgehog

    Me: *looks at the thumbnail*
    Also me: NOOO! OLIVERRRR!

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      haha it's okay - I fixed him! :D
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @psycokermin3712
    @psycokermin3712 Před 3 lety +1

    I'm 35,000 miles away and eight months in the future and yet I can still smell the motor burning... Oh wait that's just my dremel

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 3 lety +1

      haha!! My dremel stinks sometimes too - think it's the stuff I'm cutting, lol! ;D
      Thanks for watching, Sam :)

  • @olliesbranchline
    @olliesbranchline Před 4 lety +13

    Loved the video, thanks for uploading I’ll be careful in future
    - Ollie

  • @journeythroughtherails5294

    Thanks Sam! I was dying for a tutorial how to burn down my railway. This helped!
    Lol 😂

  • @davidstrains4910
    @davidstrains4910 Před 4 lety +16

    Great video Sam I have had a couple of motors break on me

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety +1

      Thanks David, sorry to hear that :(

    • @fawnathefox9600
      @fawnathefox9600 Před 4 lety

      I've had an 0-8-0 that sparked and pored out smoke like it had a smoke machine in it. I was fine and it was fixed

    • @wolfzillaproductions4563
      @wolfzillaproductions4563 Před 2 lety

      @@fawnathefox9600 *T h e r m o n u c l e a r*

  • @RichardKuivila1947
    @RichardKuivila1947 Před rokem +2

    SAM - Great experiment ! interesting results. You should do a video on how to add a mini fan and heat dissipation fins !
    Keep up the great videos, you do more for us than just review the new products !

  • @60025falcon
    @60025falcon Před rokem +1

    my hornby triang mallard started smoking today! It was terrifying but luckily I could turn everything off before stuff got serious.

  • @leilacentral1883
    @leilacentral1883 Před 4 lety +1

    The closest I had was decoder burnout due to poor wiring and soldering from Hornby. Was surprised that your experience has seen bachmann with more motor issues. Very interesting to watch and most enjoyable. Most of all hobby safe Sam. Clint

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      Oh yeah I've had that once or twice before - decoders blowing up - but yes, many Bachmann failures in my experience!
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @Steamerthesteamtrain
    @Steamerthesteamtrain Před 4 lety +2

    Yeah even my Bachmann FT once smoked then 3 years later the gears cracked.
    I decided to junk it, I kept the chassis for a future metal casting project.

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      Blimey that doesn't sound good - definitely worth keeping it for parts though! :D
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @Running-with-skizers
    @Running-with-skizers Před 4 lety +1

    Thanks for the video sam didnt know too much about the open motors learned a lot

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety +2

      Thanks mate, glad you found it interesting! :D
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @georgetimperley8906
    @georgetimperley8906 Před 4 lety +2

    Liked that, nice to learn why these are always failing. Great video Sam 👍

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety +1

      Thanks George, glad you found it interesting mate! :D
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @rydermike33
    @rydermike33 Před 4 lety

    Spectacular stuff Sam, could almost smell that 'cooking' from here! Great video, many thanks.

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety +1

      haha thanks Mike, apologies for the smell ;)
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @trapdriver7006
    @trapdriver7006 Před 4 lety +1

    Excellent video Sam,my Hornby Q1 caught fire because the link rod below the smokebox detached itself from the motion and caused a short circuit.This was spectacular as there were flames and smoke in seconds which melted the locomotive body on that side. I removed the locomotive and put the fire out,luckily the mechanism and sound chip were ok.This was a brand new locomotive so this should not have happened, I fitted a new body to the locomotive and did not refit the link rod as the earlier models did not have it.

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      Crikey Tony, that sounds really dramatic - I've often had loose crankpins on models from Hornby!!
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @ifukill7538
    @ifukill7538 Před 4 lety +1

    Sam you are so helpful. My dad has died now but my earliest memory is sitting up in the attic with my dad as he cleaned and ran his huge 00 gauge. My mother making and painting buildings. I love all sorts of railways real and model. Love your videos and have subscribed.....Jayne😊🚂🚂🚂🚂🚂🚂🚂🚂

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      Sorry to hear about your dad, but great that you have so many memories - thanks a lot for subscribing! :D
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @KLa35
    @KLa35 Před 3 lety +1

    Me: Just casually taking my Class 350 for a spin and sees this video.
    Me: Class 43, you're gonna have to become the man of the rails.

  • @jaydenholloway6710
    @jaydenholloway6710 Před 4 lety +1

    I once over-sped a pannier and it blew up. Thing is it was a really old and unclean Mainline engine.
    Luckily I could salvage the engine and now it’s a motorless shell on a display shelf.

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      Ooh yeah those mainline ones are famously unreliable! ;D
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @newwesterngrove
    @newwesterngrove Před 4 lety +1

    As of your question of if there was any smoke when the motor failed, there wasn't but there was sparks! (Locos was Tri-ang Jinty from garage sale before being oiled)

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      Ahh dear - yes I've seen it happen many a time :(
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @castlejunction1707
    @castlejunction1707 Před 4 lety +6

    Very enjoyable.....I had a similar experience with my first train set.....dad was not pleased...haha

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      haha what happened mate?!
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

    • @derekheeps8012
      @derekheeps8012 Před 3 lety

      My wrenn coronation class just caught fire

    • @lewisgabbitas2849
      @lewisgabbitas2849 Před 2 lety

      @@SamsTrains oh god, I have an similar engine

  • @the4tierbridge
    @the4tierbridge Před 4 lety

    My Bachman Thomas has a similar open frame motor, and when I went to service it, it had this green gunk in it! Even stranger, the loco had been running fine with it there for who’s knew how long, and after I removed most of the goo, it still ran perfectly!

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      Yeah they do have a similar motor - that was probably some lubricant - it should run better now that's not inside the motor ;)
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @Machodave2020
    @Machodave2020 Před 4 lety

    I've always wanted a motor that would fail with passion. Now I'll actually have fun seeing the motor fail.

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      haha excellent - hope you have an enjoyable time!
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @duncanbhaltaireanraigwilso9627

    My nephew managed to set fire to my Hornby First Great Western barbie HST when he was 2. The powercar roof melted, then immediately burst into flames.

  • @matthewbannister5951
    @matthewbannister5951 Před 4 lety

    As I've just bought a second hand class 58 I found that VERY interesting! Thanks Sam top job.

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety +1

      haha yeah - just don't overload it! ;D
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @louisbuscarino7330
    @louisbuscarino7330 Před 4 lety +2

    Sam great video as usual I have only one problems with your videos they are to short I wish they were longer a lot longer . They are so entertaining and I learn a lot about my favorite hobby it is nice to see others so interested in this hobby. Keep up the great videos.

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety +1

      Thanks Louis - the next one should be longer! :D
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @JWitchard
    @JWitchard Před 4 lety

    Oddly enough, the exact same thing happened to my 14xx earlier on this afternoon, probably for the same reason. Not totally burnt out though, it still runs but intermittently. I've sent off for a replacement motor and I will check out the old one to see if it's repairable. Nice video. 🙂👍

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      Blimey sorry to hear that mate - the motors are good and cheap aren't they? Though that's probably the issue ;)
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

    • @JWitchard
      @JWitchard Před 4 lety

      Yes a very good price. £4 plus just under £2 p&p. I hope that doesn't reflect a sign of the quality. 🤔

  • @Kris-qy7hh
    @Kris-qy7hh Před 4 lety

    Me: **reads the title**
    Also me: What kind of dangerous yet creative antics is our Sam up to now? 😂
    Nice vid Sam, time for me to binge watch all of your crazy experiment videos 🤣

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      haha awesome mate - hope you enjoy this one! ;D
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @matic713
    @matic713 Před 4 lety +1

    I didn't have any motor fails on my railway and I had it for 7 years.🚂
    Nice video.

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      Great to hear that mate - lucky you! ;D
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @TheJmnewton
    @TheJmnewton Před 3 lety +2

    Sam. Great video. Don’t know how I missed it before. Anyway, very interesting. Can’t believe half an amp could do that.
    Keep up these great videos. Even if a few/most don’t cause sparks.

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 3 lety

      Thanks John - yes you're right - you can generate a lot of heat though a small amount of current!
      Thanks for watching, Sam :)

  • @johnpeters1441
    @johnpeters1441 Před 4 lety

    I'm not there yet. however i did " visit" a loco hobby shop. i learn a lot watching your video. your very easy to listen to. i connect to your style of explanation.. it works for me anyway.... 👍

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      Sounds good John - better plan one or two more 'visits' - really glad you like these anyway! :D
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @popeyebob9007
    @popeyebob9007 Před 7 měsíci

    AHHH it seems my problem with my Hornby B12 is solved. This same motor was factory fitted to my B12 when I purchased it well over 10 years ago. It ran well for nearly a year then due to life getting in the way it was packed away in the original box in a plastic storage tub with the rest of my loco's. A while back I decided to build a layout for my Grandson and, lo and behold when the B12 was placed on the track and power applied it would not run and instead it sat there and emitted an acrid smell and smoke. So not being that confident to strip the loco and motor down and, only this week after watching and getting inspired by your videos I pulled the loco down and dismantled the motor. I thoroughly cleaned everything and what did I find the brushes gone as with your motor but not as bad. In fact I could find no evidence that there ever were any brushes. The only contact with the commutator were the brass fingers that would have held the brushes. All I can deduce from this is that the materials used to make the brushes was so sub standard as to be absolutely useless for the purpose or a very poor quality control issue allowed this model to slip through. I had previously purchased a new motor ( Poweline P1232A ( mk3) from E Bay which was not cheap and will now fit that. I did manage to get the original motor to run again but without the brushes it is totally useless as a spare. What I can't figure out is why did Hornby put these pathetic substandard motors into the B12 and not something more robust such as an XO3 or similar??? At least I can buy XO3's in bulk quite cheaply. So unless I can find a mount to take an XO3 or similar I will be stuck with paying $18.95 or 9.47 English pounds each so quite an expensive exercise. This will now ensure this loco does not get much running time as it will end up being to expensive to maintain. I will contact Hornby to see what they can do but am not hopeful of any sort of positive outcome other than a note saying they received my E Mail.

  • @chrisclark6192
    @chrisclark6192 Před 4 lety

    Hi Sam. Good video as always. I've had a lot of problems over the years with hornby motors hence now all my locomotives are bachmann. I do however have a good tip. When oiling the motors I use a sewing needle to dip in the oil when lubricating the end bearing. That way its almost impossible to over lubricate and no risk to the commutator. My oldest locomotives are sixteen years old and still on original motors including the brushes. Keep up the good work. Chris.

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      Thanks a lot Chris, sorry to hear that - yes that's a good tip - I do only use a tiny amount of oil!
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @SgtThurston6738
    @SgtThurston6738 Před 4 lety

    Weirdly enough I actually my Triang class 37 had the same issue with what look liked blimmin thermite. I had sent you an email about it but this answers my question very nicely!

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      haha really?! I've never known that happen with a tri-ang! :O
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @RockyRailroadProductions_B0SS

    I bought the Airfix version of the 14xx recently, exclusively for a replica "Titfield Thunderbolt" train, and because it didn't cost too much - The motor seems alright, though the mechanism squeals quite badly in reverse. The motor failure on your more modern one is, er, definitely something spectacular.

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      Ahh yeah - have you tried giving it a bit of a service? The motors on the older models did seem to be better!
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

    • @RockyRailroadProductions_B0SS
      @RockyRailroadProductions_B0SS Před 4 lety

      @@SamsTrains I've had the loco as far apart as I could get it, seems a lot of the Airfix stuff have totally sealed drive units, though it does run well enough forward for what was roughly £20. Could potentially be something to do with the brushes, not completely sure.

  • @johnshepherd7958
    @johnshepherd7958 Před 2 lety

    I have an old 70's 00 gauge Kays kit in white metal for the Bayer Garret with the rotary coal bunker. What is the best motor for it and where from please ? Also the drive wheels are plastic.
    I need some metal replacement ones but where from ?

  • @jacobwilson5468
    @jacobwilson5468 Před 4 lety

    Another great video, Sam. Thank you.

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      Thanks a lot Jacob, appreciate it mate! :D
      Cheers,
      Sam :)

  • @MrBnsftrain
    @MrBnsftrain Před 4 lety +1

    I have five locomotives that had motor burnouts. Two happened during normal operation, one happened when the plastic drive shafts jammed, and two were from just trying to get the engine to move again (like you did, but these locos haven't burned out previously). All of them were used models except for one Bachmann diesel I got new back in 2011
    Most of my motor burnouts happened with "pancake" motors from various manufacturers and various ages.

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      That's quite a lot mate - and yes I've seen one or two pancake failures :/
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @jaytendo2020
    @jaytendo2020 Před 2 lety

    does anyone know if you can DCC fit that kind of hornby 14xx?

  • @bethanythedford9226
    @bethanythedford9226 Před 9 měsíci

    Hi sam, i recently got some motors from amazon, they’re made by acompany called utax, they’re small enough to fit inside a locomotive, they run at 24000 RPMs, will they work for my projects? They only came with a plastic mounting bracket, how do i put them in a locomotive? Do i have to do any soddering to make it work?,i’m trying to avoid using a sodering gun because i can’t see, so the risk of being burned is very hi for me, is there a way to make the motors run without using heat?

  • @samuraifool912
    @samuraifool912 Před 2 lety

    I love the X03 X04 motors. They are so Easy to maintain.
    Even I know how to Fix that motor..!! Dad taught me..!
    Good video. Oldie but a Goodie..!😎

  • @a.r.productions
    @a.r.productions Před 4 lety +1

    Goodness gracious me. I've actually got several loco's with that motor luckily I've never experienced such events. Very interesting and informative :D

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      Glad to hear that - I should say I have many that haven't failed too - it's not like they all blow up! ;D
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @AberystwythStation
    @AberystwythStation Před 4 lety

    Hi Sam. Great video once again! What soldering iron do you use? - 9.50 min.
    GWR

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety +1

      Thanks a lot mate - I'm not sure about that, I'll have to check!
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @kristineal1147
    @kristineal1147 Před 4 lety

    Nice video Sam, I would never want that to happen to my model railway, hey I have a question, I have a model railway that is only hornby locos it’s supposed to be my British railway layout, but I’m thinking of making a new layout that is only Bachman locos and that is gonna be only locos from America, mainly diesels, but I was just wondering if ur able to put a Bachman loco on a hornby track and be able to run it with a normal controller cause if so then I’m using hornby tracks for mine.

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      haha me neither really! Yes OO or HO Bachmann locos will work fine on Hornby track! :D
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

    • @kristineal1147
      @kristineal1147 Před 4 lety

      Sam'sTrains ok thanks that’s really good to know cause the Bachman track isn’t really that good but the hornby is way more realistic so imma use that instead:D

  • @Emma-tv9nm
    @Emma-tv9nm Před 4 lety

    Hi Sam I am relieved to see you didn't hurt yourself. You are very brave!

    • @Emma-tv9nm
      @Emma-tv9nm Před 4 lety

      Are you mad with me Sam? Why are you not replying? :(

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      haha not at all - I've just been getting a lot more comments recently! :O
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @Louisianacentral8
    @Louisianacentral8 Před 4 lety +14

    Should have titled this “how to tell Hornby to use good motors “ lol :) love your vids
    Good video

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety +2

      haha, that would have been better, lol! ;D
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

    • @Louisianacentral8
      @Louisianacentral8 Před 4 lety

      Lolbee-SFM thank you very much I appreciate it;)

  • @Ryan871
    @Ryan871 Před 4 lety

    Interesting video! I once had a dcc blanking plate melt on my Hornby K1 had to send it back for repairs smelt awful lots of smoke!

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      Thanks Ryan - blimey I've never heard of that before, scary stuff! :O
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @mrdreaded8865
    @mrdreaded8865 Před 4 lety

    Very interesting Sam, Thanks.

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      Thanks a lot mate, glad you liked it! :D
      Cheers,
      Sam :)

  • @gwyneddboom2579
    @gwyneddboom2579 Před 4 lety +1

    I like your new intro! It must have been a hell of a job animating that!

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      Thanks a lot mate - it's a template, so I don't have to reanimate it every time! ;D
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @That1Redhead28
    @That1Redhead28 Před 4 měsíci

    Where do you get them from?

  • @lukeslocomotives
    @lukeslocomotives Před 3 lety +1

    So I watched this video at about 3pm and guess what happened at about half 7? The type m motor in my pug went. Cant find any of them anywhere... where did you get the spare ones? Thanks :)

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 3 lety +1

      Wow, that's really bad luck! I got mine on Ebay - do a search for Hornby Type 7 - good luck mate!!
      Happy New Year - Sam :)

  • @railfilm
    @railfilm Před 2 lety

    Hi Sam
    One of the reason can be your pulse power supply. Those motors were not designed for the power what you supply can deliver ( PWM or just a thyristor chopped 50 Hz). Most of the pulse power packs always deliver in pulse with modulation (PWM) the maximum power to the motor. This method overheats the commutator and the coils ( the commutator has to interrupt and turn on always the maximum voltage from the power supply. ). This method is even more dangerous for coreless motors because of lower heat dissipation capacity.)
    In old fashion filtered DC power packs the maximum voltage is present only at maximum power ( when you run your trains at maximum speed - how often is this the case? ).. One of the possible solutions is to reduce the voltage what goes into your power packs. ( in DCC for eg to 10-12 V). In your GM power pack it is more complex issue.
    Just an example. The commutator on a 6000 RPM 3 pole motor interrupts the power 200 times per second (200 Hz) only on highest speed. Every interruption creates a spark and heat. When you use a pulse power supply from GM it adds another 50 or 100 interruption independently from the motor speed, on top of that always with the highest possible voltage ( power). This overheats the commutator and the coils, and finally kills those simple motors.

  • @crsrdash-840b5
    @crsrdash-840b5 Před 3 lety

    I like to know how many tank steam engines compared to tender engines do you have?

  • @strike9716
    @strike9716 Před 4 lety

    so how does this motor perform compared to a basic can motor of similiar voltage?

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      That'll be the next question - I could try a comparison! :D
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @marknelson2073
    @marknelson2073 Před 4 lety

    Are the brushes fragmenting and shorting out the armature?
    I'm in North America, and I've seen that style of open frame motor in a lot of slot cars, but not model locomotives. (20 years working at a toy and hobby store.)

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      I wondered that - possibly! I didn't realise they were using the same thing in slot cars - strange, since they don't seem to like getting thrashed! ;D
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @kevinrussell2718
    @kevinrussell2718 Před 4 lety

    I recently bought a 30 year-old Hornby Black 5 from Ebay. When I was first trying it out, the loco started to smoke quite heavily. However, after a few minutes, and the smoke had disipated, I tried it again, and found that it actually ran BETTER - much more responsive to my controller, and much faster.

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety +1

      Uh oh - was that the old ringfield one? Maybe there was some corrosion on the commutator that took some burning off!
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

    • @kevinrussell2718
      @kevinrussell2718 Před 4 lety

      @@SamsTrains Yes. A Ringfield Type 5. However, I was assured by the seller that the locomotive had had a good service before being placed up for sale. So it may well have been oil being burned off.

  • @paulhorn2665
    @paulhorn2665 Před 4 lety

    In fact, my grand-uncle, my uncle and me Burnt down locomotives over decades, all from Märklin. Now I have no model railway today, but remember burnt times on the carpet :-)
    One time in my childhood a friend asked:" Does have your diesel a smoke generator?". My answer:" No its not digital!". The little diesel cooled down and was running again soon.

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      haha sounds like you had some fun Paul - haha a bonus to realism too then?! :D
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @SproutyPottedPlant
    @SproutyPottedPlant Před 4 lety +1

    It’s amazing that is all it took to cook that motor, a short stall. Will that kill bigger ones that are not open frame? Maybe even brushless types of motor?

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      I know - not very durable was it? I haven't tried this on other motors, though maybe I should! :D
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @GaryNumeroUno
    @GaryNumeroUno Před 4 lety +1

    You know what they say Sam... once you let the smoke out it never works the same again! Interesting video though. Good job.

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      haha you're right - very true!! ;D
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @robingray1302
    @robingray1302 Před 4 lety

    Takes me back to "tuning" slot car motors back in the 60's, many similar problems albeit subjected to much heavier abuse !!!

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      Ahh yes - I've certainly had a few slotcar burnouts in my time too ;)
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @malcolmwebber610
    @malcolmwebber610 Před 4 lety +1

    Also had trouble with Bachmann motors. You mention replacing them - where can you buy replacement (higher quality) motors?

    • @vincebagusauskas278
      @vincebagusauskas278 Před 4 lety

      Good question. Also for Hornby

    • @SuperDvsmith
      @SuperDvsmith Před 4 lety

      In truth you can’t upgrade them just have to keep replacing them as and when they fail

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      I've never found any better Bachmann ones - they seem to be proprietary (not accidental!) I'm doing a video on the Hornby ones soon! :D
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @walkertang
    @walkertang Před 4 lety

    I don't own a single model train but i watch your videos and I love it

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      Glad to hear you like the videos - hope you can get into the hobby one day! :D
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @oregonwesternrailroadprodu5239

    My boss always calls the motor smoke “the magical puff of smoke”

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      haha yeah - it's certainly pretty magical! ;D
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @thequietestengine
    @thequietestengine Před 4 lety

    1:06 I spy a classic which was the one that got me to buy MY Triang 3F and subscribe to your channel ;) Really glad to see that the fail didn't originate from one of those, I know they get a bit of a rep for 'looking' dangerous with the Back-to-the-future arcing on the wheels when running sometimes. Great video, Sam!

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      haha fantastic - glad you like that, and thanks for subscribing! :D
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @HammBurber
    @HammBurber Před 4 lety

    Wow, all these fires on your railway make the Island of Sodor look like a safe accident free place!

  • @Jimyjames73
    @Jimyjames73 Před 4 lety

    Hey Sam - I thought your suppose to see smoke come from that kind of Loco - after all - it is a Steam Engine!!! ;) lol

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      haha, if only!! ;D
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @PhilPage227
    @PhilPage227 Před 4 lety

    My Hornby Terrier ( Chinese but 20 odd years old) says on the box "Designed for shunting and not for long running." Are those Hornby motors Sam or can you get cheaper versions?

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      Yeah they're Hornby ones - though cheaper ones are probably available! Does it really say that on the old Hornby box? That's ludicrous!! :O
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @caboosech
    @caboosech Před 4 lety

    i have a old bachman gp40 in ho scale every time i run it it smokes like realy bad for a few mins than stops

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      Uh oh - that doesn't sound good!! :O
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @highlandrab19
    @highlandrab19 Před rokem

    Actually kind of helpful really didn’t expect them to be overloaded so easily

  • @harvurd111
    @harvurd111 Před 2 lety

    Do the hornby pacers have similar motors?

  • @brianmicky7596
    @brianmicky7596 Před 4 lety

    Hi Sam, Nice review , Thanks for the demo , Will keep it in mind not to overload things , Would it happen on DCC ????, All the Best Brian 🤗

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety +1

      Cheers Brian! On DCC, the decoders would blow up rather than the motors ;)
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @ianstransporthistorystuff8175

    Your videos are brilliant and you should see and smell what happens to a full size diesel- electric loco after a traction motor or the resistor failer it goes Bang in a Big way ! Lol I was in a class 73 electro- diesels engine room when we had this happen once , keep up the good work .

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety +1

      Thanks so much Ian - I bet that must be quite a frightening event - does it happen often?! :O
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

    • @ianstransporthistorystuff8175
      @ianstransporthistorystuff8175 Před 4 lety

      @@SamsTrains not that often Thank goodness lol

  • @runningpenguin9176
    @runningpenguin9176 Před 4 lety

    I like that these motors have to be maintain it gives more "realism" since the real things did need actual maintenance. I hope the kids watching had payed attention and had learned a thing or two

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      haha that's true - though I don't think smoke and flames is a good lesson to anyone ;)
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @o.m.b.demolitionenterprise5398

    6:03 “Yes there is smoke coming out of the cab windows!” Sounds like the driver and fireman are smoking on the job...

  • @therealvbw
    @therealvbw Před 4 lety +1

    I have two DCC 0-6-0 locos with type M motors, and they haven't been running very well all of a sudden. One has started smelling bad and running slowly... should I be concerned/do something before the DCC circuitry etc gets fried?

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety +1

      Ahh that could be a sign of a failure - it's probably worth just ordering a replacement motor for them - they're cheap enough on Ebay!
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

    • @SuperDvsmith
      @SuperDvsmith Před 4 lety

      Watch out buying motors off eBay there’s a few fake ones out there ... I know I’ve had the miss fortune of buying one and and after 4 months having not just smoke but flames coming from the motor which melted a hole in the body of the school class ... I sent it off too Hornby with a letter explaining what happened after I sent a email Hornby called me and said thanks for bringing this to our attention and we regret to inform you that the motor was a fake and they have got in touch with trading standards on my behalf

    • @therealvbw
      @therealvbw Před 4 lety

      @@SuperDvsmith Eek, rather one than the other! I'll be careful, thanks for letting me know :)

  • @olikirrage
    @olikirrage Před 4 lety +1

    Good news is, my only loco I now have with one of these is my pacer and that only has its second coach to pull :)

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      That is good news - the Pacers do tend to work really reliably! :D
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

    • @olikirrage
      @olikirrage Před 4 lety

      Just like in real life ;)

  • @AlongPreservedLines
    @AlongPreservedLines Před 4 lety

    I can’t wait for the next How to Burn Down Your Model railway episode! I wonder what’s next, perhaps it will be by having a very faulty engine’s engine explode?

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      haha I don't know that yet - depends what fails next ;)
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @kitchenjail3546
    @kitchenjail3546 Před 4 lety

    I was fixing a Mehano USRA pacific recently and found that the engine was... for the lack of better words, superheating some parts of the driveline to the point where they were glowing. I don't know why it did that, and I have no idea how to fix it. Send help

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      Oh blimey really?! That's unbelievable - I don't know what to suggest!! :O
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @numptypootis8012
    @numptypootis8012 Před rokem

    This was only recently but I was running in a spare Hornby Thomas chassis, it made it round the curve for the 10th time and as soon as it hit the points it just snap crackle popped and spat smoke everywhere in a comedic fashion! Doesn't seem to run but tries to, I think a fault was one of the brushes was bent wrong

  • @Maurice_Moss
    @Maurice_Moss Před 4 lety +2

    It's a shame the smoke wasn't coming out of the chimney 😅

  • @Noodlewerfer
    @Noodlewerfer Před 3 lety

    I remember the first time a loco's motor burned out on me. It was an HO engine, not sure exactly what type but it was American and was mostly black with yellow on both ends. I remember saying "Wow, I didn't think this one smoked!"
    Problem was... it was a diesel.

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 3 lety +1

      Ahh so sorry to hear that - it's so sad isn't it?! :(
      Thanks for watching, Sam :)

  • @haydenbritt1237
    @haydenbritt1237 Před 4 lety

    Just got a used Broadway Limited Imports Pennsylvania GG1 last week, it stopped running a few days after I got it. I opened it up today and found out the pick up wires on one side of the engine have fried. Working on replacing them now, hoping it works out.

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety +1

      Ahh that's not good mate - sorry to hear about that :(
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

    • @haydenbritt1237
      @haydenbritt1237 Před 4 lety

      Sam'sTrains It’s all good, I actually brought it back to life last night. Thanks for the support.

  • @briancooper562
    @briancooper562 Před 8 měsíci

    There is a component of the drive force which pushes the worm away from the drive gear which can deflect the motor axle which also will heat the bearings.

  • @jolenesaunders9030
    @jolenesaunders9030 Před 4 lety

    Hi Sam love your videos

  • @kebinshields
    @kebinshields Před 4 lety

    I have the exact same 14xx and the same thing happened to mine. It was fairly new as well.

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety +1

      Ahh sorry to hear that - it's terrible isn't it??
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @JohnHill-qo3hb
    @JohnHill-qo3hb Před 4 lety

    When motors over heat, the insulation on the wires that make up the windings in the motor softens or melts an electrical short usually develops, sometimes with an exciting show.

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      That's absolutely true - I should have measured the windings on the failed motor, that would have been interesting!
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

    • @johnbullpit9481
      @johnbullpit9481 Před 3 lety

      The wire 'windings' looked fine in the video. The commutator was the problem. I always think to run them in a bit at first. It would be an interesting experiment to monitor the current when adding one carage at a time.

  • @brycehill6678
    @brycehill6678 Před 4 lety +1

    It'd be interesting to see a video on the few of us that get burned out on model railroading. I packed my locos and layout up awhile back and I just haven't had the drive to restart. It seems to be a common problem anymore, or it is here stateside.

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety +1

      haha that's a very different take - I wouldn't know anything about that, I still love model railways! :D
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @garydykes1857
    @garydykes1857 Před 4 lety

    Yours must be the only model railway channel that needs Smelly Telly to fully appreciate it. Loved it when you said "it's tatered" (not sure how you spell that). Not heard anyone say that since was a kid!

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 4 lety

      haha not sure you'd want to smell that to be honest! haha yeah - don't know where I pulled that word from, lol! ;D
      Thanks for watching - Sam :)

  • @EpicModelTrainz08
    @EpicModelTrainz08 Před 2 lety

    The first train you showed the grey one I have that and it has problems too :(