The Elder Predator: 1718
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- čas přidán 26. 07. 2022
- With the new movie Prey coming out, it may be time to explore further Yautja history. The Elder Predator from Predator 2, also known as Greyback, The Ancient One, and The Golden Angel, gifted Lt. Harrigan a pistol with the name Rafael Adolini. What is the origin behind this trophy?
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Some years later Harrigan eventually brought the pistol to the Pawn Shop out in Vegas where Rick coldly offered him only 2K for it, citing there was no providence whatsoever to backup the whole Predator story.
Lmao
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Not before calling a buddy of his for expertise.
2k? Nah, Rick would only offer $500 bucks
😅😅😅
Predator 2 was Amazing and so good when the Elder Predator said "Take It" the gun in the end.. what a Film
I like it better than Part 1 YOU!???
@@GarysMoVieCrypT the Original for me blew my mind just so good, does not get any better than that, and everything else that followed the Predator Franchise was INCREDIBLE
@@simonjandrell5897 PREDATOR is a virtual lethal weapon ...imagine an Army of those on a battlefield!???
@O888O888O like what... ? Don't go on meanderin' and don't fill us in on the meat... out wif it bruv.....
The question is how did the predator get the gun while naru own the gun in the movie(prey) did they kill her after the movie? Lol
With just a little practice I believe this narrator could be a audiobook narrator. He has a warm, inviting voice.
Yeah, I agree. The only way to improve this reading would be to do a special voice or a voice effect when reading the predators dialogue
Danny Glover did a hell of a job and Predator 2. He is a very talented actor.
Maybe i will get lucky and fall!
Predator 2 is amazing!!!
Agreed, although I’m not a fan of alien 2
Danny Glover totally rocked in Predator 2.
@@ruthmarcano631 He was badass for sure!
Damn.... that was an amazing story. I was literally captivated.
- bro was way better than any amazon audio book
The comic book to this story was amazing
the movies are cool and all but nothing hits that itch like the huge backstory told in great detail. im addicted
Same here, the narration was awesome and just learning the backstory of that pistol was amazing. I really enjoyed this
Me to
That predator maintained the flintlock so well, it looks almost as good as when he received it nearly 3 centuries ago.
Maybe they have some sort of storage technology that keeps items in pristine condition?
@@jbonkerz maybe it's a stupid plot
You don't need to maintain them much. Keep it dry and clean, give it a buff once a year and it'll stay pristine.
When you see muskets and pistols in poor condition it's because they've been lying in the ground. Museums have plenty of firearms from the 18th century that look like they just came from the gunsmith.
@@VikingTeddy
That's because they often spend time and money restoring / cleaning exhibits.
Time dilation?
Very interesting how they mixed in older history of The Predator. I'd like to see the home planet an rituals that transpired to determine who was Chosen as a Warrior!
the sontaran
It blows my mind how this short narration is better then the last predator movies I have watch
The fan made Predator: Dark Ages is a good one and worth watching. It pays more homage and respect to the lore than the 2018 'canon' film.
Count me in
@@cowabunga2455 czcams.com/video/YRD8jAk274I/video.html
where can I watch it?
@@HarmonicaGaming I've posted it ?
It's been on CZcams for some time now for anyone interested. Batman vs predator vs alien is also a good one that I dont even know how old it is now.
If only they adapted "Predator 1718" into a movie, I would pay top dollar to see that!😄
I doubt it. They actually have to pay Dark Horse for the rights of the scripts. And realize that you have to extend the show for Hollywood's sake
well not quite top dollar, as I am sure hollywood would F it up in some shape or form. The days of good filming making are gone, seems only fan fiction can give us a good film. hollywood is to focused on pushing their agenda and every film bowing to it. SO they are the last ones you want to make anything. Time for hollywood to go to dust.
Now that would be a wonderful movie 🎥 Preditor 1715!!!! Pirates 🏴☠️
I would have rather see them using the setting of 18th century Italy. Imagine Leonardo DaVinci gadgets, the rich Genova or Venice historical setting, the castles and the catacombs, the huge canons, the flintlocks, the crossbows, the fine steel armor sets, and a deep religious overtone. Everything would provide a much richer setting than some forest with natives. While i do greatly admire the native american culture and history, i think it doesn´t coalesce as good for a sci-fi horror flick.
They won't. It's a masculine story and it has respect for Christianity, which are two carnal sins in Hollyweird.
I can't believe the cut "okay...who's next?" Out of the novelization. Best line in the movie lol
Loved that part as well.
He was indeed a human Lethal Weapon
I'd love the fact that the predators have dreadlocks this is dope and awesome
The artwork and colouring is so good in this comic too.
This was a perfect narration for my morning routine. I am still thinking myself odd for feeling emotional when the captain was shot down. Your ability to bring these comics to life is nothing short of astounding! Please keep up the good work my friend
Your readings are always great fun to listen to. Well done. Another great video!
I love how the predator basically learned how to use some human speech from him and immediately understood what its meaning would translate to
A long time ago I had a Elder Predator action figure. I had a few of them. I forget the company, but this Elder Predator was called Cracked Tusk. When I was young like 98 or 1999
Kenner? I think it was. I had all the action figures back in the day. Did it come with a rolled up mini comic book story?
Where did these toy manufacturers get that name from considering all the things he's actually referred to as
@@jessebudelman yes! Kenner was the company. I had Scavage, Spiked tail, Cracked Tusk, Renegade, and Stalker predator action figures
Kenner, I still have those 90's predator and alien toys, plus the neca ones
I had one given to me by my uncle as a kid and never knew what it was until I was about 11. I had always thought that it was some kind of 'creepy man'
You are such an incredible narrator. I wish comics said as many words to me as they do to you. I know a picture is worth a thousand words, but my brain doesn't pick up on that many :/
It's not only the positive his narration, pacing and consistency that make for great storytelling. It's the negative realization just how bad great story telling can become when you spend multiple millions of dollars to have it made for the big screen. The left do politics like movies that if their better idea just had more money it would fix everything
Same here. 😪
EXECELLENT VIDEO! I like how you broke down the back story and intergrated it with Predator 2 movie ending and narrated the comic story. I never knew about the comic stories. Real incite full explanations regarding it. Thanks for the video presentation.
After the last films, I will wait to see how this one turns out. I will say that the concept of a historical hunt sounds a lot better.
I seriously hope the story of the flintlock isn’t retcon, that comic explained a good reason why Greyback awarded Harrigan after defeating City Hunter.
You will be disappointed then...
@@mrrictus “sighs for a long time” 🫣
Mr H said Dan Trachtenberg made clear it is "this Predators" first hunt on earth. Not sure what interview he got that from.
@@chriscarrete5303 well we can clearly see that Feral & Greyback aren’t the same Hunter.
Prey will not be cannon to me.
This is how the Predator lore should be introduced. So many predator films have made a mockery of the lore. What a brilliant connection to the old “Grey back” or “Golden Angel” of Predator 2. I hope the new Prey film brings this franchise back on its feet?!?!
I only think of one film that makes a mockery of Predator lore... and I think we all know the answer to which one it is.
@@Jormyyy Predator killer suit…
@@Akabinxstar exactly.
@@Jormyyy dumbest shit I’ve seen predator wise.
😆My thoughts exactly!!
Man that 1718 rendition, legitimately has anticipating anything predator rn!! Fuk that was good!
This is why the first and second predator movies are awesome. They should’ve did a prequel YEARS ago and never done the other crap. Definitely look forward to PREY.
Have you read *Predator: If it Bleeds* Many of the short stories in it are historical, and the rest would likewise make great video material.
Culloden!
That’s a great set of stories I listened to the audiobook on here over a few afternoons. The civil war story really stuck but they were all great..
@@pilgrimgrey4191 S.D Perry’s “Skeld’s Keep” ended up being my favorite of the bunch, followed by “Three Sparks” by Larry Correia. Vikings and Samurai fighting Predators make a great plot.
Skelds keep ,the viking story would be an amazing rated R adaption on film ,but thats why I love books my imagination makes stories so much better .
@@williamlydon2554 Outlander 2008 movie.
This is really different from the main line predator films and it shows the potential of placing Alien and Predator in past times.
Alien stories should stay in the future.
I love how the predator in prey is using primal weapons for the predators
Just finished watching Predator 2, really has grown on me these last couple of years, almost getting on par or even better than the first one, can't wait to see Prey and hope to see more historical pieces involving Predator!!
just watched the first predator and predator 2 yesterday. i got both on dvd. would love to see more historical stories .
Watched it last saturday
@@banderas2000watch " Predators " next, it tells the story of super predators ☑️
the art style... this is heavy metal euro comics stuff.. i wish all predator comics drawn like this
I don't think they should retcon the comic and events of predator 1718, it's a great story that fits in well with the universe. To change that would be to ruin it. Also great video I like the detailed explanation
Keep eating the garbage they do and it will continue. Pretty simple
Unfortunately, that's what Prey does.
Dude's a fur trapper who gives Naru the flintlock because she's so awesome.
@@JDoe-gf5oz I hate that they retconned the 1718 story.
@@RakaiThwei did they actually do it?
I love the code the predators have. They could make so much cool lore if they wanted. Predators and humans vs zombies, predators vs humans in different time periods(which could be its own series)
aliens vs predator was a letdown
@@bikeman1x11 the movie was, but you gotta check out the original comics. Those are what you want, full on AVP.
@@djpwally i was hoping to see that in movies
Now that you gave that back story, it would be great if the movie brings that exact story to life.
I hope its just another pistol as the andolini story is brilliant and would one day like to see a real film about it!
I had not idea this story existed .... Some fan I am 😂. Thank you Alien Theory for this video it has aided and fueled my excitement for the release of Prey next week.
You should look up the dark house omnibus it has all the predator storys and alien vs predator
@@Chevalier_knight is it like an audio series?
@@Chevalier_knight do you have a link to it? I can't find a "Dark House Omnibus."
Great content Alien Theory! I'm stoked for the new movie. I hope they keep the 1718 comic cannon. I love that story personally and don't want them messing with it.
This was fantastically done. Thank you!!
You just keep on giving us such good content. I absolutely love your work! Pretty niche thing to have such knowledge about❤️
Well done on the storytelling and in-depth explanation of the Predator.
What a great little story! Thanks for highlighting this.
Your narration is excellent. Love these videos you make.
I want a comic/book or miniseries where a predator crashes to earth for a hunt but he’s super early so he wins over a farming town and just helps them out.(plowing fields with his tech, harvesting crops, playing with farm cats) Then a gang or rival aliens come and he fends them off
A mini series would be good they did chucky so why not aliens
This is beautifully written…
This just makes the Predator an awesome villain/antihero. This story is worth telling on the big screen.
I was hooked from the vey first minute. Never heard of this novelization before. Great job as always.
I absolutely loved this. Thank you.
As someone who considers himself a xenomorph and Yautja expert (obsessed fan lol) and a lifelong fan of the whole AvP universe, I have got to say-
Alien Theory is, hands down, without a doubt, the absolute BEST example of fan media available for the AvP mythos. Dude, you're the best! I love absolutely everything you post. You're always objective when reviewing things, and always post the best, most detailed & informed content. Alien Theory is second to none when it comes to AvP content discussion and appreciation.
You are very kind, thank you!
I have a question for you sir cause you're the expert,
Did the last 10 minutes of Prey make any sense to you ?
I decided to leave this Predator fandom cause i totally expected the Ending to be the death of the predator, which is absolute nonsense especially when i start remembering that he killed over 20 men a grizzly and a wolf and still had enough power and energy, and finally gets killed by a girl who was literally about to die not just once but 3 fuckin 3 times 💀 cause of the lion and the grizzly and those men ofc who trapped her like bro where's the sense in this movie i don't get it at alllll i fuckin hated the ending bro i really wanted to see the predator Winning for once
@@lyes0 ahh thats Hollywood for you with that female empowerment pc bullshit *long sigh*
Thank you much for your Extremely well-narrated thoughts, looking forward to your insight on Prey. Stay frosty!
Awesome review/catch up, great job bud…great job!!!!
A movie on this would be GREAT. Pirates ⚔️
When I first saw the movie, I thought wow that could be a killer side story!
What an amazing story! Derek you could totally be an audiobook reader/narrator.
Such a great video - Thanks for this!
Thank you for this! I have always wondered about this exact thing. We need more Predator movies as it is. Just so happens this subject would make for a fantastic film!
The Critical Drinker has the best theory. The Predators came back and wiped out the tribe and took it as a trophy from her since she was the one who killed him. Makes the most sense to me.
There is a history of predators that came up from the caverns a d tunnels and hunted men. The bloodlines made a contract with their leader to only do it certain times if the year and at certain times and areas, thar way any bloodline family member would be safe. Those are the reptilian, Many movies depict actual history.
Nah
Well except the fact that it doesnt really suit their MO as honorable species and the pistol would not have as strong as a sentimental value as the original story had, Prey just retconned the whole thing and how the Elder from P2 respected the protagonist there.
I would suspect Naru would give it back after the others came for the other weapons/body. A sign of respect.
What a story that would be to see on film. 👏🏽. Always wanted to know where they pistol came from. And just knew there had to be a story to it
Predator 2 was always my favourite.. now I gotta watch Prey.
Woouw - one of my lifelong questions has been answered !!!! Ever since I first watched Predator 2 back in the '90 on my parents black - white analog TV set I was wondering about that flintlock pistol gifted to Harrigan by the Elder Predator......Thanx a lot.
I hope they do a "prey" 2, set in western times. That would be amazing if done well. Like an armed robbery gang who hold up stagecoaches , getting picked off by the predator. Prey shocked me, how good it was. I hope Dan Trachtenberg directs again.
Dutch has a plan
Cowboys Vs Aliens?
Have you even seen the first Prey? They set it up for a sequel 100%.
@@AcidAroma yh I have watched it. Someone said if u watch the end credits there's a hint at what's next, but I never watched the credits. What do u think the sequel gonna b ??
@@cobrakaicyberdon well possible spoilers!
But right when the movie ends they start showing the movie again in like that simple Native American drawings.. if you watch that til end when Naru brings back the head of the Predator to her tribe and it shows the movie title PREY aafter that it shows her tribe people look up to the sky and point to the thunderstorm when 3 more Predator ships appear…
The Godfather Vito Corleone's real name was Vito Andolini. I like to think Rafael was his ancestor somehow and love to imagine a war between the Corleone family VS the Predator in my weird mind.
Weird indeed. But now you've mentioned it... me too😅
What a narration ... what a narration ... Absolutely stunning , gripping , capturing and i am spelbound.. Take a bow.. 🙏
My first video I’ve viewed of yours after being recommended from a comment on another channel, about to dive in a deep dive! You definitely deserve more subscribers the narration,imagination, descriptions is unmatched
Makes no sense hiw or why a French guy would have the pistol in prey
I've been toying the idea of reworking Beowulf into an Alien vs Predator story. A bit tricky to make it coherent and honorable but I feel it would be something great. One problem thou, I need to actually get started on it.
Do it!
Thank you very much great video and back story, peace and God bless you and your family
Dude! Being a Predator fan, I f'n loved this video/backstory. Thanks man! Can't wait to see Pray.
Predator 2 had a great story line with Danny Glover. He should won an Academy Award. The artwork is incredible. 👍
I watch your videos for the info but I gotta say the editing is the most unique and aesthetic I've seen
10/10
Great video as always!
dude the narration was awesome, I thought PREY was awesome, too. me and my brother have always wanted to see movies explore different ages and environments, thanks for the video 🙏🏽
I never was into the comic books so I really appreciate this back story of Rafael adalini
Would be an interesting lore tie-in if it were Andolini's pistol in "Prey."
Then they couldn't say it was the first hunt. 👀
Actual it is. And it is the 1st hunt. The gun says Adolphus adolini 1715. He acquired the gun in 1715..and ws still using it in 1719...which makes sense
@@robertreynolds2350 Not according to official lore it isn't. They fucked up the story to cater to the strong woman narrative. They literally killed the patriarchy in that film. They gave Raphael a very dishonorable death compared to the original way he went out according to the lore. This movie sucks and it was forced to be made by Hollywood bastards.
@@robertreynolds2350 It's not the first hunt on Earth. Explain the pyramids in Antarctica in AvP. They're way fucking older than the 1700's, they've been here hunting way before then.
@@robertreynolds2350 I wish people wouldn't put up with this shit and accept it so easily. It's bullshit.
Great video sir and your my favorite CZcams channel when it comes to anything ALIENS or Predator cool information. Keep up the videos and good work as always and Thank You.
I thoroughly enjoyed this. Thank you.
Love it.
They should have more stories like Prey. It was way better than the last 2. I would be happy with more like this.
The prey story are better than the last two of the predator franchise but it would have been smoking good if it was created & featured in the 80's like the first predator movie.
@BMARK I agree.
They wrote themselves into a corner saying this is the first time Predators came to earth in Prey. That's bullshit, I want to see Vikings, Samurais, Pirates, Cowboys, etc.
Edit: They retconned it and said it was THIS Predators first time on Earth, not the Yautja's first time as a species.
@@streetrat48 Yeah weren't they on Earth thousands of years ago at the beginning of Ancient Egypt's rise?
@@johndesalvo7157 yes they were that were when they first started to develop around the ancient egypt era, you see its all what the writer & company wants to put but they could've went further in history with the movie.
Prey is an absolute awesome addition !!!!
Brilliant narration,it was like watching a short film 👏👏
I've always loved the predator b'cuz of its "honorable" code....so I hope they do tie in the story of the pistol.
What Honor Code? It's not enough that he's bigger, has the best weapons but he has to go invisible to defeat the opposition.
@@MegaBruce247 as long as you dont have a weapon or are not an active combatant....he'll leave you alone.
@@lacygood5873 .. But we're talking about one on one. That young Comanche was whipping the Predator azz until he went invisible.
“OK…Who’s next?” -Lt Mike Harrigan
you nailed it, hung onto every word in your story
Yo I ain't been read a bedtime story ever.. I appreciate you. Great work
Sadly, for it to be a retcon, Disney would first have to acknowledge it as Canon, and that's something Disney has a problem with when it comes to comics and novels.
Star Wars legends was never canon to begin with sooooo
@@Jormyyy The EU absolutely was...WITH the Blessing of Lucas and Lucasfilm...until George decided to make the Prequel Trilogy.
Even then, the only thing retconned was anything prior to Episode IV.
@@digitalis2977 the only reason it was ever "blessed" by Lucas was because it was making him money lmao last time I checked the only EU/ Legends material he genuinely enjoyed or considered canon to the universe was Old Republic era.
@@Jormyyy Not entirely true, as his ultimate decision to do a Prequel Trilogy instead of a Sequel Trilogy (when his original Trilogy Actors we're still fairly young and fairly willing) was based largely off his respect for Zahn's "Heir to the Empire" Trilogy and the minimal damage the Prequels would cause to the EU versus Sequels.
There was also next to no Old Republic material for him to like prior to the release of the Prequels...only some Sith Empire material from extreme ancient history.
Regardless, his reasons or enjoyment have no bearing on the fact that the EU *WAS* Canon until the sale of LucasFilm to Disney.
@@digitalis2977 facts
Has there been any talk about time travel with the predators? I would assume maybe they have discovered it and can go back and forth in time since each movie doesn’t show older vs newer weapons that the predators have.
i always wondered about that pistol never knew they had a back story to it, this was great
Prey was excellent. The overall look and feel was so different yet the overall themes and structure flow with what made the first film so good. It's an excellent film in its own right and the second best if not the best film of the franchise.
I agree .. the Comanche and French Hunters were awesome, plenty of action and intrigue.
One day (hopefully) someone will do a Predator movie that will be almost as great as the very first Predator movie and puts in all the Predator clans and makes it good. No main actors and no CG......one day 👍
Every predator movie has had CGI, that would be strange to make one with only practical effects
This was a great movie, seen it a few days ago, at the beginning the acting seemed bad but as it went on it got better and answered questions we were waiting too see
Thanks for another great upload 💙
That was awesome. Love your stories and lore. I love how the in movie he is surrounded my predators and he just calmly says who’s next?? But that’s not how their code works. There is no revenge just honor.
"Prey" was great. Totally entertaining. A post down below mentioned a old west version might be cool. I agree. Cowboys and Aliens was a different kind of movie but still fun to watch. Mixing old west and future tech is hard. A quick draw artist would do how well against a predator? The Ballad of Buster Scruggs was super funny and worth watching for sure. Maybe a mix of that movie with a predator mix in?
Playing the elder predator in this movie was Whoopi Goldberg's favorite role, no makeup required!!!
Haha savage 🤣
Great story keep the history on the Predators coming
Great video man, enjoyed this
What I find the most interessting: The Artist did his job excellent, but th Author failed miserabely...as always. Not one moment the author dealt with the concept of the predators. The most prominent proof: The Predator throws his weapon into the grave. Predators were always incredible careful to not let any underdeveloped species get a hold on their weapons and technology. That's the reason why everyone of them has a nuclear self destruction device in the first place. The Alien & Predator IPs were created for intellectual nerds and now it's sold off cheap to children and idiots.
the grave could have been buried and then had a boulder placed over it. no one back then would be able to lift it. let alone today. some undiscovered species like sasquatch bury their dead.
As much as I hold out hope the new predator movie will be decent, I am so used to being disappointed I'd sooner they didn't start changing any established Canon from what, for the most part, are well written, decent quality extended universe books/comics. Then again nothing is sacred now is it? What hope does predator lore have when they change every horror franchise to suite the ridiculous ideas they attempt to pass of as transformative or "modern take" these days.
At the end of the day you always have the original films and can pick and choose which lore and explanations you believe are best.
The comic was never actually canon though, surely? It’s a spin-off by Dark Horse. It was never canonised by Fox, unless I’m missing a minute detail somewhere.
@@jonpotter9510 Screw Fox, especially when they let abominations like the AvP
Films and Prometheus and Covenant be made.
Oh the new show will suck trust me
Glad I'm not the only one who didn't like Prometheus and covenant
Awesome job ! I now have to go watch part II again. One of the greatest lines from the 1st is in PREY. If it breeds we can kill it.
Nice. Love the story telling
I've always wondered what Predators among Samurai would've been like. Honour vs Honour could be interesting.
Then please watch Zatoichi vs Predator.
Damn I wish they would’ve made this into a movie, hopefully they can in the future
As always, so good man. And Prey is GREAT!
I’m actually glad I watched/listened to this.
It was great.