How 'images of schoolgirls' on TikTok are turning boys into misogynists | Julia Gillard

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  • čas přidán 10. 07. 2024
  • "We haven't put a sort of positive image of masculinity in front of young men, some very evil people are filling that in the online space."
    Social media has given rise to a new wave of misogyny, former Australian Prime Minister Julia Gillard tells Kate McCann on #timesradio
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Komentáře • 45

  • @manatee2500
    @manatee2500 Před 4 měsíci +12

    The problem is that we have been bombarded with these kinds of discussions for several years. The nagging and the lecturing just gets old and there’s rarely an actual conversation with men. Guess what? Most of us just tune this out.
    Much less is actually a lot more. Something to consider, perhaps.

  • @jeanlucdom5398
    @jeanlucdom5398 Před 4 měsíci +18

    How about 50% women in military confrontations and truck driving🤣🤣🤣

    • @yuriimarshalofficial
      @yuriimarshalofficial Před 4 měsíci

      Yeah, they all live in illusionary ideal world where contraption is definitely the role for men because women are righteous in the fighting for law and social rights. Instead young women just go rotten the more and more year by year. Pathetic.

  • @golagiswatchingyou2966
    @golagiswatchingyou2966 Před 4 měsíci +8

    UK is such a clown country, sad

  • @friedrichhoffmann4248
    @friedrichhoffmann4248 Před 4 měsíci +4

    Stop toxic feminism! Equal military conscription for women!

  • @larrygerry985
    @larrygerry985 Před 4 měsíci +7

    You mean hormones? I remember the 1990s as a teenager with any visual I could get my hands on, pardon the pun

  • @karlstone6011
    @karlstone6011 Před 4 měsíci +8

    Complex issue, but to make some general points, feminism was a protest, or rather, successive waves of protest, not a plan. Feminism undermined traditional value systems without really understanding their sociological purpose. Now men like Andrew Tate are spoilt for choice, and treat women badly because women - liberated from traditional monogamous marriage by feminism, chase men who can in theory, provide them with lavish lifestyles. (Whether they are likely to do so in practice is another matter entirely.) As a consequence of women all chasing the same few men, other men become incels - and it's here the contempt Tate exhibits for the familiar, becomes misogynistic.
    Listening to this discussion, it's strikingly obvious to me there is no self-criticism on the part of these feminist activists, very little attempt to understand men, and no ability to sympathise with men's needs, hopes or desires. Where it's touched upon, men are criminalised, or they are 'good men' - a hugely simplistic characterisation that places all the blame and burden on men. Repeated references to rapists, wife beaters and child abusers are offensive, and should be outside the scope of this discussion.

    • @Xanaduum
      @Xanaduum Před 4 měsíci +1

      There's no auto-critique anymore, any auto-critique is viewed with suspicion by other feminists, or out-and-out called internalised misogyny if its coming from a woman - unless it's a guy doing the critiquing and then they are sexist, even if in actual truth they occupy the middle ground, or even feminists themselves but are pointing out inconsistencies, grey areas, or uncomfortable issues. It's an issue in both the Left and the Right in politics also, no auto-critique anymore, people don't seem to be able to handle it in many spheres.

    • @karlstone6011
      @karlstone6011 Před 4 měsíci

      @@Xanaduum I watched a few of your videos. They're weird and unsettling in a melancholy sort of way. I liked them a lot!
      Left wing identity politics creates the opposition it needs by its right-on intolerance. Legal equality for individuals - regardless of race, sex, sexuality has been enshrined in law for decades, but it's not enough; because identity politics is a protest movement - it's got to keep moving.
      I'm reminded of J.K. Rowling, who made an innocuous comment about PC jargon: '...the cervixed.' She said: 'Didn't we used to call them women?' - and went from darling of the left to the devil incarnate in a split second, with no-way back.
      It's heresy against doctrine, but without the option to recant and seek forgiveness. The more Rowling tried to explain, the worse it got. There's only capitulation or transgression - a binary absolute with no room for nuance, debate or auto-criticism. It creates its own opposition.
      It's not just feminism, it's every area of politically correct activism. And it's not just that it's easier to browbeat people with social exclusion, twitter mobs, doxing and threats, than it is to think. More so, it's the multitude of sins that can be swept under the carpet when people are not free to think, less yet speak their minds. The unfair advantages that can be claimed, careless of those not blessed by oppression, by men! White men. Straight white men! Formerly, the bourgeoisie!
      The left should be representing ordinary working people - relative to capital, regardless of race, sex, sexuality etc. We should have legal equality, free speech and robust debate - defended on its merits, not opinions forced on people with a totalitarian intolerance that's the very antithesis of diversity, equity and inclusion. It's polarising by design.

  • @GRD211
    @GRD211 Před 4 měsíci +28

    I'm looking forward to the all male panel discussing what's wrong with women.

    • @Analiffey16
      @Analiffey16 Před 4 měsíci +3

      As a woman, me too!!🤦‍♀️

    • @braxxian
      @braxxian Před 4 měsíci +2

      Never happen. Everything is men’s fault. By the way this woman became ( briefly ) the Australian PM by stabbing the sitting PM in the back a year into his term. Very endearing.

    • @Xanaduum
      @Xanaduum Před 4 měsíci

      Those channels and groups exist, but everything an all male group says can easily be dismissed as toxic/sexist.

  • @yorkshirepudd7532
    @yorkshirepudd7532 Před 4 měsíci +4

    Remember one thing men dont need a full time relationship anymore and are far better off. no ear ache .spend our hard earned money on ourselves

    • @major__kong
      @major__kong Před 4 měsíci

      If it flies, floats, or f'ks, it's cheaper to rent than to buy.

  • @DJFAmenHeavy
    @DJFAmenHeavy Před 4 měsíci +7

    lol 😂

  • @notarealname6237
    @notarealname6237 Před 4 měsíci +19

    As a man I would not recommend taking life advice from women. Leads to negative outcomes for society.

    • @Krannski
      @Krannski Před 4 měsíci

      Hey everyone, I personally would recommend not taking advice from random dipshits in CZcams comment sections, lol.
      Christ Almighty, whistle and the dogs will holler...

    • @suemowat222
      @suemowat222 Před 4 měsíci

      How about some examples of those negative outcomes please.

    • @notarealname6237
      @notarealname6237 Před 4 měsíci

      @@suemowat222 look at all the weak men in society , you can’t see the negative results. More single mother’s sons end up in prison ? Hard to ignore evidence

    • @jimohara
      @jimohara Před 4 měsíci

      @@suemowat222I’m sure there’s stats somewhere about the outcomes of children raised in single parent households compared to children raised in two parent households.

  • @TheBlackManMythLegend
    @TheBlackManMythLegend Před 4 měsíci +2

    Now lets have a laugh :
    The state of men regarding women => Tyrese Gibson , “what more do you want from me” meme

  • @mises9954
    @mises9954 Před 4 měsíci

    Mothers and fathers need to reign in their sons and daughters peroid.

  • @amichaelthomas83
    @amichaelthomas83 Před 4 měsíci +8

    i agree with most of what is said but to moan about the fact that there are 3 women discussing an issue and there are no men in the studio is a baseless argument.. I am sure you could have invited some men to discuss the issue.

    • @reaverman
      @reaverman Před 4 měsíci

      That's what 'Equalit...I mean Equity means these days!'

    • @YorickReturns
      @YorickReturns Před 4 měsíci +2

      @@reaverman Indeed. That's why "equality" was replaced by "equity". "Equity" means "Equality when it suits us, and inequality when that suits us".

    • @braxxian
      @braxxian Před 4 měsíci

      That would require balance and fairness. This is your usual feminist lynchmob.

    • @Xanaduum
      @Xanaduum Před 4 měsíci

      People don't like their straw men to talk back.

  • @guff9567
    @guff9567 Před 4 měsíci +5

    Everybody is a misogenist, ESPECIALLY ♀️

    • @geoms6263
      @geoms6263 Před 4 měsíci +1

      we need to respect other peoples opinion

  • @claire-christmas-august73
    @claire-christmas-august73 Před 4 měsíci +2

    our former pm gillard.
    🇦🇺
    her outstanding speech in parliament rocked our nation.!
    👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
    true goosebump material.!
    ☺️😊😃😆
    ~claire~
    ✌🏻🇦🇺🌏🤘🏻

    • @braxxian
      @braxxian Před 4 měsíci

      Actually it didn’t. And didn’t she become PM by stabbing Rudd in the back less than a year into his term?. Very endearing.