Osborne 1 Computer Restoration Part 2

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    This episode is part 2 of a restoration project for an Osborne 1 portable CP/M computer.
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  • @newtair
    @newtair Před 6 lety +2485

    "Hey Margie, that guy across the street is hosin' down his computers again"

    • @cup_and_cone
      @cup_and_cone Před 6 lety +83

      Best comment here by far.

    • @newagederpderp
      @newagederpderp Před 6 lety +10

      lol

    • @Danzing0
      @Danzing0 Před 6 lety +207

      "I went to ask him what he was doing and saw him through the window rubbing condiments on his computer!"

    • @floppydisk9382
      @floppydisk9382 Před 6 lety +6

      Lolololol

    • @EdgyShooter
      @EdgyShooter Před 6 lety +57

      Remember to water your computers at least once a week kids!

  • @RichardPebis
    @RichardPebis Před 6 lety +596

    *Let me demonstrate with this mustard*

    • @icecold1805
      @icecold1805 Před 5 lety +37

      I love how he could have just used a freaking plate for the example but he did it on top of a computer.

    • @nikodoge99
      @nikodoge99 Před 4 lety +2

      @ice cold and it was the same computer he was working on too

  • @snesguy9176
    @snesguy9176 Před 5 lety +253

    haaa I've never used peroxide to brighten plastic, but have worked with it before. When I saw you did the leather and put it in the sun I said "Oh no..."

    • @yaralaterveer
      @yaralaterveer Před 2 lety +9

      I've never worked with it before but I was like: NOOOO DON'T PUT IT ON THE HANDLE

  • @alonsopuente
    @alonsopuente Před 6 lety +450

    "Hey nice suitcase there!"
    *pops open the *suitcase**
    "It's a computer"

  • @pacinpm2
    @pacinpm2 Před 6 lety +144

    Rule of thumb: if it's bad to your skin, it's also bad to leather.
    When I saw you applying peroxide I immediatley thought about leather damage.

    • @incumbentvinyl9291
      @incumbentvinyl9291 Před rokem +4

      *for
      Leather and skin is actually the same product just at different stages. If you skin a person, you're left with unworked leather. I've heard of lampshades made out of human leather. It's not very useful for much else as it's so thin and weak.

    • @vanhetgoor
      @vanhetgoor Před rokem +1

      You could have stopped the video and prevented the 8 Bit Guy making this mistake!

    • @primewastaken
      @primewastaken Před 8 měsíci

      @@incumbentvinyl9291how tf do you know

    • @incumbentvinyl9291
      @incumbentvinyl9291 Před 8 měsíci

      @@primewastaken I'm a hunter.

    • @primewastaken
      @primewastaken Před 8 měsíci

      @@incumbentvinyl9291 yeah but THE HUMAN LEATHER PART?

  • @georg6876
    @georg6876 Před 5 lety +357

    DAVID DON'T RETROBRITE THAT COMPUTER, oh no he has airpods in he can't hear us

    • @redpikdman
      @redpikdman Před 5 lety +11

      A wild week old comment appeared!

    • @32BitLink
      @32BitLink Před 5 lety +7

      Small Round Boi a wild week old comment appeared!

    • @thevioletwild
      @thevioletwild Před 5 lety +6

      @@32BitLink A copied comment appeared!

    • @JoSephGD
      @JoSephGD Před 4 lety +3

      A string of comments spanning over 4 months appeared!

    • @SirPootington
      @SirPootington Před 4 lety +1

      @@JoSephGD words

  • @NicholasDeroche
    @NicholasDeroche Před 6 lety +102

    I like that you acknowledge your mistakes--that's something you don't see often in other tech videos ;)

  • @TheMrRuttazzo
    @TheMrRuttazzo Před 5 lety +38

    3:11
    The capacitor has been incapacitated.

  • @LMacNeill
    @LMacNeill Před 6 lety +120

    Sorry to see the retro-bright process didn't work so well this time around.
    I wonder if those metal covers on the handle can pop off, revealing the rivets underneath them -- then you can drill out the old rivets, remove the handle, and reinstall it with new pop-rivets.
    Speaking of the handle -- I would take it to an upholsterer. Someone who does automobile upholstery. Guarantee you they have the skills to fix it -- especially since you've got a picture of what the handle looked like originally. It'd be like re-wrapping a leather-wrapped steering wheel or gear-shift knob on a high-end car. Guarantee you they can get it done for you, no problem.

    • @AerinRavage
      @AerinRavage Před 6 lety +1

      LMacNeill Assuming they're the same ones, the underside of the panel showed three rivets per end. Not sure if the covers would come loose once the rivets were done...

    • @DogsRNice
      @DogsRNice Před 6 lety +2

      Hopefully he does this. That handle looked nice

    • @kruleworld
      @kruleworld Před 6 lety +8

      I think it'd be cheaper to buy a broken Osborne computer just for the handle.
      .
      If he wanted to, he could drill out the rivets and either re-rivet it back on (easy), or tap it and screw it back together (removable!)

    • @CIubDuck
      @CIubDuck Před 6 lety +3

      He could probably fix it himself as well. ChrisFix (car youtuber) upholstered his whole steering-wheel without any prior knowledge except some research, and it turned out great

  • @alitheretrokid
    @alitheretrokid Před 6 lety +1251

    Make a video of you taking it to Starbucks.

    • @mattwolf7698
      @mattwolf7698 Před 6 lety +50

      Ali the retro kid HIPSTERS!

    • @forthwithtx5852
      @forthwithtx5852 Před 6 lety +52

      That was comedy GOLD! Think about it. "Do you have WiFi?, Wait, this thing never HEARD of WiFi!."

    • @forthwithtx5852
      @forthwithtx5852 Před 6 lety +29

      My Apple Watch has bigger screen!

    • @CharlesP2009
      @CharlesP2009 Před 6 lety +98

      Get a serial modem and ask to use their landline.

    • @j1nz007
      @j1nz007 Před 6 lety +4

      please do this!!

  •  Před 5 lety +38

    When I saw you wrapping that handle in the retrobrighting "package" I felt somehow bad. My premonition wasn't false.
    Still it's good to learn from it.

  • @ProtoMario
    @ProtoMario Před 6 lety +361

    Love your work man, old timers that deal with old computers are awesome, lest we forget our roots.

    • @thatretrogeek8837
      @thatretrogeek8837 Před 6 lety +2

      XD great comment.

    • @ronnie8317
      @ronnie8317 Před 6 lety +7

      When we hit late 70s and still remember how to work on these ancient machines the grands will look at us like...oh yeah hes really lost in time now... hehe Creazy how fast time moves on the development of PCs

    • @John_Sturgeon
      @John_Sturgeon Před 6 lety +3

      Holy cow, a wild Proto appeared! Sorta unrelated, but you're awesome for all of your switch giveaways, and regular content in general. (You should definitely remember my username when you're selecting someone to receive a switch btw)

    • @Satoriga
      @Satoriga Před 6 lety +1

      ProtoMario but proto!

    • @yobeefjerky42
      @yobeefjerky42 Před 5 lety +1

      ProtoMario is apparently omnipresent

  • @mLswanson
    @mLswanson Před 6 lety +18

    I can only imagine the cramp in the neck and the eye strain one would get from staring into that tiny little screen for any length of time....

    • @Sciesdraspsp
      @Sciesdraspsp Před 6 lety +1

      Matthew Swanson youd get glaucoma

    • @SpearM3064
      @SpearM3064 Před 6 lety +5

      Ezra Salayandia You don't really know what glaucoma is, do you? It's when fluid builds up in your eye and puts pressure on your optic nerve, causing nerve damage.
      TL;DR: No, you wouldn't get glaucoma. It doesn't work that way.

    • @Sciesdraspsp
      @Sciesdraspsp Před 6 lety +2

      SpearM3064 i know what it is lol, i'm a nursing student i just thought it was funny. Not trying to be smart about it.

    • @squidgrill
      @squidgrill Před 6 lety +2

      Sub G Im not sure why you would decide to look at your watch for minutes, hours straight, that would really strain your arm.

  • @NoHeroez
    @NoHeroez Před 6 lety +208

    Perhaps you could use a paint roller on flat surfaces to get a more even coating

    • @Theismisacrime
      @Theismisacrime Před 6 lety +38

      I really like this idea. Maybe a video on multiple retro-bright methods?

    • @forthwithtx5852
      @forthwithtx5852 Před 6 lety +18

      Spray bottle.

    • @braydentaylor6516
      @braydentaylor6516 Před 6 lety +2

      That would also be an awesome idea! Retro-bright doesn't need to just happen to computers... I've got a whole bunch of yellowed Lego bricks that I'd love to use Retro-bright on. I think it would be great for him to explain different methods for different things

    • @stumbling
      @stumbling Před 6 lety +12

      Paint rollers deposit in blotches though, not evenly (and spray everywhere).
      Perhaps an ink roller to smooth it out after being applied?
      Or spraying on the peroxide?
      Or this clever idea of vaporizing the peroxide then letting it condense onto the surface creating an even liquid film. www.google.co.uk/patents/US4512951

    • @jep0218
      @jep0218 Před 6 lety +15

      He said he has a video on the way about more methods. I messaged him asking how to fix the streaking problem and he said he's making that video

  • @brainndamage
    @brainndamage Před 6 lety +76

    The 0,1uF X cap isn't there to keep the noise out, it's there to keep the noise *in*. Without it the radiated noise from the switching frequency will increase significantly. It isn't needed for the power supply to work, but technically it is a very good idea to replace it. I'd do the same with those other two 0,01uF X caps while you're at it.

    • @platypusfrenzy
      @platypusfrenzy Před 5 lety +22

      Yes, a cap costs pennies and takes a minute to replace. I'm baffled he just removed it while spending so much time on perfecting the looks.

    • @AureliusR
      @AureliusR Před 4 lety +15

      @@platypusfrenzy says... quite a bit about this channel. I do love this channel and am a subscriber, but I sometimes cringe at the mistakes he makes. The leather handle too... what the hell did he THINK would happen? Why would you even apply the cream to something that didn't need it?!?

    • @jacobfelix9452
      @jacobfelix9452 Před 4 lety +7

      Aurelius R I totally agree. as soon as I saw him walk away from that sunbathing leather, I knew what was going to happen. I’ve seen that happen a few times to the leather of cars that experienced inevitable scorching temperatures. however, this ridiculousness was not inevitable. david could have easily avoided this rookie mistake. I don’t know what he expected...a retrobrited handle? I would have AT LEAST wrapped the leather with some tape to prevent contact with the cream as well as less sun exposure.

  • @alexbuss3377
    @alexbuss3377 Před 5 lety +6

    I’m not a computer enthusiast, but the way you go through these restorations got me hooked.

  • @AndersEngerJensen
    @AndersEngerJensen Před 6 lety +444

    The mustard and ketchup analogy cracked me up! 😃
    Perhaps someone could make you some 3D printed custom basins for you to use for submerging items in hydrogen peroxide?

    • @picolete
      @picolete Před 6 lety +53

      There already exist big, transparent plastic containers

    • @TheBranchan
      @TheBranchan Před 6 lety +10

      Wouldn't it just be better to get some clear totes from a store, fill it up with peroxide, and just leave it out in the sun?

    • @pauliewalnutsgualtieri8779
      @pauliewalnutsgualtieri8779 Před 6 lety +28

      a big plastic tub will work fine its the peroxide thats the problem he would need gallons of the stuff

    • @TheBranchan
      @TheBranchan Před 6 lety +1

      Would it be possible to synthesize it?

    • @AndersEngerJensen
      @AndersEngerJensen Před 6 lety +3

      Well, of course off the shelf is what's cheapest and easiest obviously, but I was thinking something that would help him keep the components in place or shaped to fit better. Just an idea. ;)

  • @PyramidgodMeekman6
    @PyramidgodMeekman6 Před 6 lety +9

    "Let me demonstrate with this mustard"
    Is it wrong that I chuckled for a long time at this? This video is awesome, it was cool to see this come together over two videos. I really do enjoy these restoration projects!

  • @tankgrrl
    @tankgrrl Před 6 lety +133

    I have to assume you have a standing order somewhere for deliveries of baking soda, WD40, Windex and denatured alcohol. :)

  • @InsanePsychoRabbit
    @InsanePsychoRabbit Před 6 lety +32

    Please keep in mind that The 8-Bit Guy is not a professional museum conservator. (I doubt anyone in the comments section is either.) As an enthusiastic amateur, he does what he does for the purposes of his own pleasure and self-edification, and although he does usually seem to know what he's doing, he's bound to make a few mistakes, but mistakes are one way of learning. The fact that he shows and admits his mistakes is actually quite thoughtful of him and should help others to not make the same mistakes in the future. Furthermore, nothing he has ever restored (or damaged, for that matter) has been exceedingly rare or priceless.
    With reference to the leather: there are some applications where it is useful to dampen or soak leather to make it pliable. A quick Google search also reveals that hydrogen peroxide shows up in some leather cleaning solutions, though not at the concentrations found in retrobright. However, soaking leather for any longer than absolutely necessary is a bad idea, especially if it's old or fragile to begin with.

    • @platypusfrenzy
      @platypusfrenzy Před 5 lety +3

      He's not a conservator of any kind. Conservation and restoration are two different things.

    • @thatskydude3005
      @thatskydude3005 Před 5 lety

      H

    • @theanalogkid3763
      @theanalogkid3763 Před 5 lety +1

      platypusfrenzy No he’s both. He restores the computers and preserves them inside his museum of computers.

  • @infinitecanadian
    @infinitecanadian Před 6 lety +19

    My entire life seems to revolve around waiting for the next episode.

  • @hfvhf987
    @hfvhf987 Před 6 lety +64

    I was screaming NOOOO as you were getting it on the leather, it was so obvious that was going to ruin it.

    • @clayperdue1798
      @clayperdue1798 Před 6 lety +9

      Dave D I was sure he was going to give it a pre-wrap to protect it :(

    • @PopeCromwell
      @PopeCromwell Před 6 lety +1

      Dave D He should have cut a slit in the plastic wrap for it.

    • @hfvhf987
      @hfvhf987 Před 6 lety +4

      No, he should have just wrapped the leather 1st to avoid getting the peroxide on it at all, it was obviously going to damage the old fragile leather

    • @SpearM3064
      @SpearM3064 Před 6 lety +7

      Dave D No, it really wasn't obvious. Peroxide can be used to clean leather. (Got a blood stain on leather? That's right... PEROXIDE.) It's also used in the production of leather because it's more environmentally friendly than the old liming process. Either the solution was too strong, or that handle is some sort of synthetic instead of real leather. (Maybe both.)

    • @hfvhf987
      @hfvhf987 Před 6 lety +1

      It was obvious to me or i wouldn't have said it and i was right...

  • @BrandonFreemanAwesome
    @BrandonFreemanAwesome Před 6 lety +51

    I think you may have your example backwards. UV light is the catalyst, and if you have a lot of build up of the peroxide cream, you're probably not getting a whole lot of UV light hitting the plastic.

    • @Tahngarthor
      @Tahngarthor Před 4 lety +1

      Pretty sure its a catalyst with the peroxide, not the plastic. UV light by itself is what caused the yellowing in the first place.

  • @aurisbunni
    @aurisbunni Před 4 lety +9

    **puts mustard on chasis**
    : whoa, that escalated quickly

  • @EpicLPer
    @EpicLPer Před 6 lety +555

    I was waiting the whole week for this already

  • @wcvp
    @wcvp Před 6 lety +67

    I love your shirt

  • @JJsMessyBench
    @JJsMessyBench Před 6 lety +173

    There are 3 film capacitors that need to be replaced in Osborne PSU's. You only replaced the one that popped. It'll be letting the smoke out again very soon.

    • @ScurvyratProductions
      @ScurvyratProductions Před 5 lety +10

      Exactly what was going through my head.

    • @xtemptatixnx8176
      @xtemptatixnx8176 Před 4 lety

      The same thing happened to my Apple IIE platinum. Luckily I had a spare capacitor laying around to replace it.

    • @VioletGiraffe
      @VioletGiraffe Před 4 lety +2

      What's wrong with these capacitors, why do they fail this way? I thought non-electrolytic capacitors are bulletproof and don't age.

    • @MarcovandenHout
      @MarcovandenHout Před 4 lety +1

      @@VioletGiraffe search for RIFA X caps, they're a known source of failure. E.g. minuszerodegrees.net/failure.htm

    • @und4287
      @und4287 Před 4 lety

      Those RIFA line filter capacitors are notorious for popping and emitting smoke.

  • @luckydragonaaaa
    @luckydragonaaaa Před 6 lety +1

    Thank you for doing multi-part videos, it really extends my viewing enjoyment for specific retro units. Single episodes always feel like they are cut short at the end. There is so much lore and nostalgia beyond the restoration that needs to be brought to light.

  • @masonpelzer8052
    @masonpelzer8052 Před 6 lety +319

    I wonder if ozzy osbourne had an osborne computer

    • @TheAwkSquad4490
      @TheAwkSquad4490 Před 6 lety +43

      I wonder if the Addams Family had an Adam computer

    • @KingASE88
      @KingASE88 Před 6 lety +50

      Mason Pelzer I wonder if Michael Dell had a... oh... wait...

    • @ironcito1101
      @ironcito1101 Před 6 lety +15

      Then I guess it's clear what computer Fiona Apple use[d].

    • @mchevre
      @mchevre Před 6 lety +10

      That's not a paradox. It would be a coincidence at best.

    • @flibblesan
      @flibblesan Před 6 lety +10

      I sadly didn't own one :(

  • @billyring9803
    @billyring9803 Před 6 lety +13

    For application of the peroxide, maybe a car window squeegee? or maybe a paint roller?

  • @untrust2033
    @untrust2033 Před 5 lety +4

    7:12 I really like the design of the power cord / fuse cover, its impossible to remove the fuse when a power lead is in and impossible to put a lead in when the fuse cover is open. Cool.

  • @JavascriptJack
    @JavascriptJack Před 5 lety

    these videos are my "go-to" series of videos this month, while coding, I listen to your soothing voice. Plus such a walk down memory lane!

  • @DetroitBORG
    @DetroitBORG Před 6 lety +44

    I need to assimilate that shirt!

  • @timblake5844
    @timblake5844 Před 6 lety +2

    Yep, after part 1 left me in suspense awaiting part 2, when I saw the notification it came out on my iphone, I swear that was the fastest I've ever finished cutting my lawn. Thanks David, as always awesome work!

  • @cgbolton1
    @cgbolton1 Před 6 lety

    Another great video Dave. Seeing the breakdown of the Osborne was excellent and I really enjoy how you handle your restorations.

  • @Tedybear315
    @Tedybear315 Před 5 lety +6

    That Rifa capacitor is extremely well known for blowing itself up. It can be exchanged for a same value capacitor (I've done so several times on vintage test gear).

  • @DavidTheZombie
    @DavidTheZombie Před 6 lety +17

    To polish rusty chrome use steel wool grade #OOOO, it will shine right up and take down pitting slightly.

    • @sgtpepper1138
      @sgtpepper1138 Před 6 lety

      Agreed,.

    • @mymomsaysimcool9650
      @mymomsaysimcool9650 Před 6 lety +1

      David Wrocklage Aluminum foil with just a little water works good too. I've tried both on chrome and liked the shine left by aluminum better.

  • @PatonMacD
    @PatonMacD Před 4 lety +3

    I've been binge watching your videos, LGR, obsolete and a few others. I have to say, I enjoy your videos the best. You have excellent attention to detail without dragging it on for so long it gets irritating. I love your content and how you go about solving the problems you are presented with. Excellent work! KUTGW

  • @McRocket
    @McRocket Před 6 lety

    I have no idea exactly why...but I REALLY enjoy these cleanup videos. I really like the differences from old to re-done and you explain the processes in great - but never too much - detail.
    I like that you show mistakes as well as successes.

  • @achiladrien2295
    @achiladrien2295 Před 6 lety

    Just watching the amount of dedication you put into fixing all of those computers and keyboards really entertains me.
    I can't wait for part 3!

  • @subtledemisefox
    @subtledemisefox Před 6 lety +3

    Can't wait for part 3. I love learning about old computers

  • @visfar101
    @visfar101 Před 4 lety +41

    something in the computer: *seized up*
    lithium grease: *i'm about to end this man's whole career*

  • @DrewPicklesTheDark
    @DrewPicklesTheDark Před 5 lety

    I barely had the patience to assemble the ~15 pre-made parts to "build" my modern computer. Props to you for managing something like this!

  • @cvbabc
    @cvbabc Před 6 lety

    Your videos are so fun. It's so satisfying to watch, whenever you turn around a piece of junk.

  • @ViewtifulSam
    @ViewtifulSam Před 6 lety +26

    6:25 that sticker was probably intended to register the date of purchase. See how it has numbers for months, days and years.

    • @chrisbarke7669
      @chrisbarke7669 Před 6 lety +1

      That's what I thought, too.

    • @Turborider
      @Turborider Před 6 lety +6

      I would rather say it's some sort of maintenance register. Also this computer was produced from 1981 to 1983 but the sticker reaches up to 1989. I've seen these stickers on quit a few other devices too.

    • @kruleworld
      @kruleworld Před 6 lety +11

      I think it was the date of manufacture, not purchase. They use them to track batches for if there's a problem with the assembly process.

  • @ioniniela
    @ioniniela Před 6 lety +41

    What if you try using a spray gun so the layer is consistent?
    Maybe several applications and rinsing would be necessary so the layer can be thinner.

    • @theycallmefilip
      @theycallmefilip Před 6 lety +2

      I was thinking the same. A spray gun would let you apply a thin and more even coating. Also, the peroxide mix looked too strong.

    • @kruleworld
      @kruleworld Před 6 lety +1

      maybe a squirt bottle instead?

    • @theycallmefilip
      @theycallmefilip Před 6 lety +1

      Spray gun just seemed more time effective. Plus, the nozzle on a spray gun gets a more even distribution.

    • @nunyabaznus7851
      @nunyabaznus7851 Před 6 lety

      he needs to stop using peroxide and just use oxyclean in a tub of water. ... even if he used normal pharmacy peroxide instead of the heavy duty laboratory grade hydrogen peroxide it would be better. hes gone WAY overboard with the process.

    • @SpearM3064
      @SpearM3064 Před 6 lety +5

      nunya baznus
      Do you want to know WHY Oxyclean works? Because it's about 40% sodium percarbonate.
      "But what is sodium percarbonate?"
      Look it up if you don't believe me: It's "an anhydrous source OF HYDROGEN PEROXIDE".
      In other words: Same shit, but it's a powder instead of a liquid.

  • @stolz_ar
    @stolz_ar Před 6 lety

    A third part? It's like christmas in July!

  • @goeuldi
    @goeuldi Před 6 lety +1

    I would never be able to put that Osborne back together...Very impressive, great work!

  • @ielboentoro
    @ielboentoro Před 6 lety +73

    128k views “very retro”

    • @subg9165
      @subg9165 Před 6 lety +4

      Eben ismanuel 144k now, hooray for floppy disks! (that _was_ a floppy disk size right)

    • @may311975
      @may311975 Před 6 lety

      Eben ismanuel 446

    • @Zawmbbeh
      @Zawmbbeh Před 5 lety +3

      512k views. now we're in the future of storage.

    • @Enes-wj5xq
      @Enes-wj5xq Před 3 lety +1

      992k now

    • @coolcoidoin4585
      @coolcoidoin4585 Před 3 lety +1

      993 k views

  • @silviustro1
    @silviustro1 Před 6 lety +10

    Some plastics also chemically react to alcohol and hydrogen peroxide. Some plastics also have a clear coat on them, your retro-brighting process might be removing said clear coat. This happened to me once while trying to clean a plastic part, i left some alcohol on it thinking it would evaporate, but instead it left a streaking pattern. No UV light was involved. So please consider the fact that an actual chemical reaction, and not the uneven coats are causing the pattern. This would also explain why some of your past attempts at this technique were quite successful and not met with the same difficulties.

    • @-taz-
      @-taz- Před 6 lety

      The streaking seems related to the thickness at the area. I also think it's not related to UV at all. One possible solution is to apply a constant thickness, and minimal. No fat chunks! And do not apply extra, but simply spray with peroxide mist at intervals to prevent drying. Whenever I've had streaks, it was due to drying. Peroxide solution is best IMO since the hair product contains other chemicals that might interfere.

  • @pv8685
    @pv8685 Před 5 lety

    the repair-man strikes again! awesome work. so nice to see those old things out turning looking like new again.

  • @RAZ3RBLAD3
    @RAZ3RBLAD3 Před 6 lety

    good luck for part 3, CAN'T WAIT, excited :D

  • @bigallan7181
    @bigallan7181 Před 6 lety +23

    Hey! So I know how to answer your leather handle "problem"
    I've done this procedure multiple times on old suitcases I find in my uncle's garage (I like to look for old valuable computers there it's it's all suitcases)
    So there is no way to FIX or REPLACE the leather, what I do is literally take the leather handle off by cutting the leather wrapping around the metal rings. You then cut off the strings (At 10:20) one by one as carefully as possible (as you need a reference to your remake of the handle) and pull the leather into a straight piece and unfold it. Now as for the sponge, as I would recommend, just use a new one (Cause it might crust) and also measure how long and how thick the sponge is. Afther measurements, you then you go to your local fabric shop (Idk where you can buy this in the U.K., U.S., or Austrailia, as I live in Asia) buy a small strip of any type of leather (a.k.a. color and which animal) and any type of foam. And then you have to start drawing and measuring where you stitch and where the leather overlaps.
    I know this sounds confusing and hard, but if you have any questions, ask!
    Good day and good luck restoring!

  • @dreammfyre
    @dreammfyre Před 6 lety +56

    5 screws on the cover should be the maximum allowed in any electronic device.

    • @theoldaccidontuseanymore696
      @theoldaccidontuseanymore696 Před 6 lety

      Don't remind me of the pain of replacing the HDD on a clamshell iBook(basically taking the computer apart)

    • @newagederpderp
      @newagederpderp Před 5 lety +2

      [cough cough] Compaq Portable I keyboard [cough cough]

    • @mrbisshie
      @mrbisshie Před 4 lety

      Nintendo seemed to have a screw fetish when they made the Wii :/

    • @fatboy7569
      @fatboy7569 Před 4 lety

      *laughs in Xbox 360*

    • @euvo_sound
      @euvo_sound Před 3 lety

      @@mrbisshie Haha yes

  • @frickinfrick8488
    @frickinfrick8488 Před 6 lety

    Honestly I really like that not all these videos are a success, it works as a warning and keeps the videos more exciting
    Like
    Watching a middle aged man clean and assemble old computers exciting
    It's the best

  • @bladactania
    @bladactania Před 4 lety

    I'm hooked on these restoration videos! You do a really nice job of showing everything you're doing, why, and the result no matter the outcome. Oh, and btw, I always thought these early computers were MADE in beige plastic! Never realized they were all grey when they were new!

  • @Zellio2011
    @Zellio2011 Před 6 lety +6

    Get a large plastic container from Walmart, lowes or biglots. They usually have a top. I got one recently that fit a chandelier. It'll take a lot of peroxide to submerge it, but I really can't think of another way.
    On the plus side, if you fill up a container full of it you'll be able to quickly retrobrite anything else that's large

    • @ethanpoole3443
      @ethanpoole3443 Před 6 lety

      Zellio2011 Keep in mind that hydrogen peroxide has a relatively short shelf life before it eventually reverts to mere water and oxygen (2xH2O2 to 2xH2O plus O2) and becomes too weak to react much. That really cuts into the economics of maintaining gallons of it in a large vat for future projects, particularly given that the larger the container the more difficult it is to tightly seal, protect from heat, vibration, and UV (just the sunlight exposure it is subject to will accelerate the breakdown into water and oxygen, so likely only a use or two before it becomes too weak).

    • @williamjackson5942
      @williamjackson5942 Před 6 lety +1

      Could you use a sprayer setup with a pump in the bottom of the container and have the surfaces kept wet and the fluid constantly being refreshed. If you could set up a set of nozzles such that every side would be kept wet perhaps that would eliminate streaks and reduce the amount of peroxide you needed to have.

    • @Zellio2011
      @Zellio2011 Před 6 lety +2

      Yeah guys I realize this. Hell, those big plastic containers I mentioned are generally cheaply made and thin and wouldn't hold up to being filled with a watery substance anyway (For long at least, eventually it would wear out, and esp. if you moved it). This is something you'd want done in 2-3 days
      But if you have a lot of things to retrobrite and 2-3 off days, it sounds like a good idea to me

  • @michaelparadigm7836
    @michaelparadigm7836 Před 6 lety +8

    The RIFA capacitor filters actually current going back to the outlet. so it's a good Idea to put a newer KEMET or Panasonic (i like to use Panasonic) capacitor back in that circuit .

  • @blossomtherouter6247
    @blossomtherouter6247 Před 2 lety +1

    "cringe to use" at 13:06
    You used the word perfectly, most people of older generation can't so props to you!

  • @magicpokey4922
    @magicpokey4922 Před 6 lety +1

    Hey, David, Awesome video and I can't wait for the next one! About the streaking when you apply the retrobright cream. Have you considered using a small paint roller? Specifically a mini foam roller with a light amount of pressure. It's what professional painters use when painting with glossy surface paint to get a streak-free finish. That should reduce the streaking you get from the brush, at least on the larger pieces.

  • @CelticAeneis
    @CelticAeneis Před 6 lety +4

    That intro....just..perfect

    • @loganmacgyver2625
      @loganmacgyver2625 Před 6 lety +2

      Nocturnall yep LOAD "$",8 really loads a program definitely not the directory of the disk

    • @thetruthfultalktriplet7989
      @thetruthfultalktriplet7989 Před 5 lety

      Sounds like the starting of one of those weird acted afterschool movies trying to teach kids Morales

  • @spiritemporer9027
    @spiritemporer9027 Před 5 lety +3

    im 13 and i love old style computers and your videos are very informative and interesting to watch keep it up man

    • @The_random_transbian
      @The_random_transbian Před 5 lety

      Sup fellow youthful enthusiast i am also 13 btw love the profile pic W.D.G

  • @jeffmckenzie7282
    @jeffmckenzie7282 Před 6 lety

    I wish I had learned this stuff years ago. Glad to see you preserving the past, hopefully for a better future.

  • @tomkrawec
    @tomkrawec Před 6 lety

    I am honestly excited about the 3rd episode. Thank you!

    • @tomkrawec
      @tomkrawec Před 6 lety

      Also thanks for using Phillip Gross' music, it's great. If anyone is interested (and hates googling) you can find the outro track 'Mainstream Scandal' here: freemusicarchive.org/music/Phillip_Gross/Katerstimmung/Band_PHILLIP_GROSS_-_06_-_Song_Mainstream_Scandal

  • @adamsfusion
    @adamsfusion Před 6 lety +37

    How I do it:
    I don't use retrobright, I just use a plant mister + peroxide. I use a UV lamp in a mylar lined cardboard box. Seriously, that's it. I have never ever had streaking problems or anything of the sort, and all of it is super easy to obtain, cheaply and in good supply. It's easy to use, pretty much set it and forget it.

    • @AlexanderKrivacsSchrder
      @AlexanderKrivacsSchrder Před 6 lety +13

      Oh yeah, that would work for sure, but David has mentioned before that he prefers to use the sun because it takes a few hours instead of days, and he's a busy guy.

    • @tyrgoossens
      @tyrgoossens Před 6 lety +6

      Well if you live in Texas... to some of us the sun is a scarce resource :-D

    • @-taz-
      @-taz- Před 6 lety +4

      I'm in SoCal where it's sunny every weekday when I'm at work and overcast every weekend when I'm off. dafuk!?

    • @TheLegoman332
      @TheLegoman332 Před 6 lety

      what procentage of peroxide do you use?

    • @adamsfusion
      @adamsfusion Před 6 lety +2

      I use 5-8% concentration Storm Peroxide from Home Depot. 3% topical will work too if you don't mind waiting a bit longer and buying up a bit more. I collect it in a bin and refill the feeder every so often and that seems to work great.

  • @bixbabble3935
    @bixbabble3935 Před 6 lety +4

    You could take a big bin for the larger parts fill it just a little bit with hydrogen peroxide side and put a UV light under the bin.

    • @richardbaker974
      @richardbaker974 Před 6 lety

      You now have enough subscribers to warrant you putting in some good research effort and a bit of money into getting plastics restoration right. A lot of people want to be taught how to do it correctly, and you are really well placed to show people how. You have been standing behind the 'amateur' banner for a while now, and you've learned some good valuable lessons, so it would be great to see you experiment with techniques on less valuable plastics and let us all know what the best processes are. Half a Million subscribers, let's see you step up your game. Thanks. Love the videos by the way.

  • @tuki3220
    @tuki3220 Před 6 lety

    Nice save with the streaks! Can't wait for the third episode

  • @vittekantilles4178
    @vittekantilles4178 Před 6 lety

    I could watch a full feature film of you restoring old computers. It's the best!

  • @professorbaxter5171
    @professorbaxter5171 Před 6 lety +3

    YOU HAVE BEEN FEATURED ON LIBUS TECH TIPS. CONGRATULATIONS

    • @gamerlicht
      @gamerlicht Před 6 lety +1

      Bike-Print-Sleep whonis libus?

  • @Samuel-ge7im
    @Samuel-ge7im Před 6 lety +3

    Nice, finally 1080p!

  • @matesanthrax8861
    @matesanthrax8861 Před 2 lety

    I love the keys, they look sick! And the whole pc after your restoration looks nice and shiny again. :)

  • @geoffpool7476
    @geoffpool7476 Před 6 lety

    David.... thank you so much for the detail on using Retrobrite. I've got a Compaq Portable Plus on my project list and I appreciate you sharing your experiences.

  • @nbluejay6762
    @nbluejay6762 Před 6 lety +4

    "It doesn't make me cringe to use it," 😄😂

  • @FancyGeeks
    @FancyGeeks Před 6 lety +55

    It still looks far better than it did.
    Perhaps if you just go through the retro-bright process several times then eventually it will all reach a point where it's as bright as it can get? I mean, it can't keep getting lighter and lighter forever, right?

    • @ericthelv51battlemage7
      @ericthelv51battlemage7 Před 6 lety +13

      You'd be surprised, it would probably just get sunbleached and discoloured. You can make it brighter but you can't make it back darker

    • @financialzero5684
      @financialzero5684 Před 5 lety

      Spongebob... your.. S U N B L E A C H E D !

    • @heffplays5187
      @heffplays5187 Před 5 lety +4

      The more times you retro bright te lighter it gets and it can destroy your plastic

  • @wheresmyclicker
    @wheresmyclicker Před 6 lety

    I could literally watch your restoration videos, both keys and 'puters, for hours and hours.

  • @KBroskii
    @KBroskii Před 3 lety

    your a really great youtuber! you're satisfying my curiosity for how an old device like how an old pc works! and your restoration videos give off an inside look that i really like! great job! you earned yourself a subscriber! :D

  • @TooLateNate
    @TooLateNate Před 5 lety +3

    Hey! You let the magic smoke out!!!

  • @rigobertoalbarran9242
    @rigobertoalbarran9242 Před 6 lety +3

    S&M leather in Wisconsin does wonders. and no that s and m is not that you think it is, it's the owners initials.

  • @TravisDoucette
    @TravisDoucette Před 6 lety

    I love your videos and your knowledge and interest in retro technology!

  • @adrianjim7433
    @adrianjim7433 Před 6 lety

    Man what a great episode. Cant wait for next one.

  • @helldog3105
    @helldog3105 Před 6 lety +6

    What about vaccuforming a mold so that it is slightly larger than the actual cover you are attempting to retrobrite? Then maybe some form of injection system create an even layer of the retrobrite in an attempt to reduce streaking? Just a strange thought.

    • @WolfJustWolf
      @WolfJustWolf Před 6 lety

      it still need the sunlight (or UV light). But it might by taping slanted pieces to the side , and vacuum forming that.
      Another idea i had was vacuum forming the inside into a filler. That way a large enough container (aquarium) can be used to completely immerge the piece , but no peroxide is wasted on the inside of the case.

    • @farben_
      @farben_ Před 6 lety

      An airbrush to spread an even coat and a clear case would work.

    • @-taz-
      @-taz- Před 6 lety +1

      I just use a spray bottle set to stun... I mean mist.

  • @augusli9716
    @augusli9716 Před 6 lety +25

    Missed old intro

  • @donaldklopper
    @donaldklopper Před 6 lety

    Way more entertaining than I anticipated! Tx for sharing your successes and failures.

  • @mukiex4413
    @mukiex4413 Před 6 lety

    Maaaan I was so worried when I saw the leather getting retro-bright'd. I was hoping it was gonna get wrapped.
    Glad you documented it afterwards though, it's a very useful lesson that might help others in the future.

  • @abdulazizahmed5684
    @abdulazizahmed5684 Před 6 lety +69

    can I retro bright my teeth lol

    • @michaelburns8073
      @michaelburns8073 Před 6 lety +21

      Uh, yes, you can. Hydrogen Peroxide gel is what's in those teeth-whitening kits.

    • @AlexanderKrivacsSchrder
      @AlexanderKrivacsSchrder Před 6 lety +8

      Probably shouldn't roll your own solution, though, unless you know what you're doing. :P

    • @zedmanatutube
      @zedmanatutube Před 6 lety +25

      just b careful removing them and id use plastic bags on the driveway method

    • @orirune3079
      @orirune3079 Před 6 lety +8

      Peroxide and UV is exactly what they use to whiten people's teeth, so yes. Just don't do it yourself.

    • @CaptainDangeax
      @CaptainDangeax Před 6 lety +1

      Oh yes you can : brush you teeth after breakfast, after lunch and after dinner. Avoid coca cola. Avoid coffee, avoid tea. Avoid smoking.

  • @lmtx45
    @lmtx45 Před rokem +2

    Here's one for the "Out of context" compilation 11:42

  • @RespatiHanantyo
    @RespatiHanantyo Před 6 lety

    nice episode, I love this kind of episode. I want to show it to my student about old computer. thank you

  • @PMattKatz
    @PMattKatz Před 6 lety

    Hey 8-bit guy, really enjoying your videos!
    A small thing I've been noticing since I've started following you. You definitely improved a lot in the voice recording area, but you may wanna consider getting a couple of acoustic panels for when you're recording in your main room? they're cheap and they will definitely stop your voice from bouncing all over the room, cancelling that weird reverb :) and by the size of your room, I'm pretty sure 4-6 panels near wherever the microphone is will do the job perfectly well.
    Looking forward to part 3! you rock!

  • @EvenTheDogAgrees
    @EvenTheDogAgrees Před 6 lety +4

    6:26 - That sticker just shows the manufacturing date. It seems the top row is the month, the middle row the day, and the bottom row the year. Normally it should have markings in the corresponding month/day/year boxes. Either punched out, or a dot of ink or a cross or something. Although I've seen unmarked ones as well.
    Other than that, no purpose.
    Hard to tell what yours said since you went from "zoomed out too far to see" to "closeup and I'm already ripping it off" in the blink of an eye. ;)

    • @Jarheads4Yeshua
      @Jarheads4Yeshua Před 4 lety

      The sticker shows the last warrantied maintenance annual inspection date from when the machine was last opened and serviced by a dealer/company authorized service technician. If it was never serviced the date indicated on the sticker should reflect its manufacturing date, if it were later serviced for defective hardware or serviced for an upgrade it would have a date indicating when the later maintenance occurred. It's a little like saying, warranty void if seal is broken. Authorized service technicians often place tamper proof stickers on their contracted work, especially after servicing warrantied hardware.

  • @spiceytuber2563
    @spiceytuber2563 Před 4 lety +3

    the name of the computer reminds me of rockstar Ozzy Osbourne.

  • @KevboKev
    @KevboKev Před 6 lety

    I like the way the new intro resolves itself at the end.

  • @Shintenpu
    @Shintenpu Před 6 lety

    It feels so satisfying to see the perfect restoration through total submersion. Please do this to the keys too!

  • @TheBeeshSpweesh
    @TheBeeshSpweesh Před 6 lety +3

    How do you use the software sprite generator for C64? What commands do you put in the computer?

    • @lorinmillsap5372
      @lorinmillsap5372 Před 6 lety +3

      stinkerb06 totally off topic. As for how you do it, you get a hold of a book like we did growing up and start by entering them in. If you aren't doing that you are missing out on a major part of the retro programming scene. I'm not being critical here, I'm telling you this is what we used to do and it's one of the best ways to learn.

    • @dementedpurplechicken
      @dementedpurplechicken Před 6 lety

      mostly pokes to memory addresses.

    • @LiveLM
      @LiveLM Před 6 lety +8

      Pseudo Memes
      Trying to destroy the computer of someone that is interested in the video.This isn't funny at all.

  • @alexreeve
    @alexreeve Před 6 lety +5

    We call these things "Rifa bombs" or in german also "Knallfrosch" which means "Firecracker" ;) :D
    p.s. please dont just remove them, you can replace them for example by WIMA MKP Y2 which are fairly cheap and much more secure...

    • @MrDuncl
      @MrDuncl Před 6 lety

      Yes the infamous Rifa brand mains capacitors. I had one fail in a vacuum cleaner so that really spread the smoke about. I found some new old stock ones in my capacitors drawer and on those the plastic cases were cracking so would let in moisture. I agree that they shouldn't just be removed. The equipment will probably fail FCC regulations without it

  • @stopmotionj2455
    @stopmotionj2455 Před 6 lety

    I'm looking forward to the third part. I really like your restoration videos. :)

  • @marekvrbka
    @marekvrbka Před 6 lety

    This seems pretty well build, for one of the first portable computers, they really did a lot of things right.

  • @Bella-wf7hl
    @Bella-wf7hl Před 6 lety +250

    im a 17 year old girl and i have no idea why im watching this but its so satisfying

    • @XOIIOXOIIO
      @XOIIOXOIIO Před 6 lety +95

      The man exudes pure sexuality, that's why we're all here.

    • @pavy415
      @pavy415 Před 6 lety +12

      Looks like you are over 18 now I would like to talk to you xoxoxo

    • @pavy415
      @pavy415 Před 5 lety +4

      Jesse Bélanger lol I'm sorry you think that, but yes it actually works and no I do not do that honking thing idk where you get that from

    • @srenhaandbk7904
      @srenhaandbk7904 Před 5 lety

      damn! Skipping the comments, i hoped you were a cute retro geek, no offense. ;D

    • @ohnojt
      @ohnojt Před 5 lety +21

      Guys, just remember, there is no such thing as a girl on the internet

  • @henrymach
    @henrymach Před 6 lety +3

    What's the function of this plastic other than darkening the CRT?

    • @_Piers_
      @_Piers_ Před 6 lety +1

      diamened I think it's probably to increase the contrast.

  • @Krspy2
    @Krspy2 Před 6 lety

    Gotta say i keep coming back to watch this video cause i love the intro so much

  • @serverdll
    @serverdll Před 6 lety

    its really satisfing see a good guy works harder for a porpouse, life is not perfect. thanks for the video and we wait for part 3.