Deleuze and Spinoza: Practical Philosophy and Process Ontology

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  • Deleuze can be seen as one of the most important thinkers of the 20th century. His (and Guattarri's) ideas on deterritorialization, multiplicities, the rhizome, speed, and others create new philosophical narratives that pierce the veil of metaphysics. Something deemed half-way obsolete by many in the 20th century. Here we explore his metaphysical relationship with arguably his largest influence. That being Spinoza.
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    Timestamp:
    Intro: 0:00
    Spinoza's Intimacy: 03:55
    The Ethics: 8:10
    Bodies, Consciousness, Beyond Morality: 11:00
    Affecting the World and Process: 13:55
    A Message: 21:50

Komentáře • 165

  • @epochphilosophy
    @epochphilosophy  Před 2 lety +23

    Hi, everyone! Thanks so much for watching! As always, I truly could not make these videos without Patreon and CZcams Members. These videos take a ton of time and resources to create, and direct support from you is exactly how I am able to do it! Consider pledging a few bucks a month to keep this going! Give early access, discord access, editing tutorials, etc. If so kind, pledge here: www.patreon.com/epochphilosophy

    • @TheJayman213
      @TheJayman213 Před 2 lety

      oh no, did you mean to say descartes at 6:58? D:

    • @epochphilosophy
      @epochphilosophy  Před 2 lety +3

      @@TheJayman213 Nope. That's supposed to be Spinoza. Spinoza doesn't reject a distinction between mind and body, just doesn't see them truly separate as Descartes.

  • @medyoscientific
    @medyoscientific Před rokem +66

    Deleuze is like a therapy session where you're on the most potent mushrooms imaginable and you're also your own French shaman

    • @darillus1
      @darillus1 Před 10 měsíci

      Riiiiight

    • @thenowchurch6419
      @thenowchurch6419 Před 3 měsíci

      What does France have to do with it?

    • @RupturedGrid
      @RupturedGrid Před 19 dny

      @@thenowchurch6419 the french were spitting bars in the 20th century. Post structuralism is so french. So being a french shaman def makes sense in that context

    • @thenowchurch6419
      @thenowchurch6419 Před 19 dny

      @@RupturedGrid Yeah, I can see that.
      Post Structuralism as a 20th century French Shamanic quest.

  • @kataliyun226
    @kataliyun226 Před 3 lety +78

    /Gill-Deluzz/

  • @innate83
    @innate83 Před 2 lety +16

    Whether intentional or otherwise, I find it ironic that the common background throughout the video (floating particles over a black background) resemble the glass dust that would ultimately lead to Spinoza’s death.

  • @pradyumansingh7575
    @pradyumansingh7575 Před 2 lety +58

    Everyone and by everyone I mean everyone should read Spinoza . He is the greatest to ever do it . Read the whole book and you will see how he anticipates subsequently majority of modern academia .

    • @danzo1711
      @danzo1711 Před 2 lety

      In which ways does Spinoza anticipate modern academia?

    • @danzo1711
      @danzo1711 Před 2 lety

      @Mustuffa _CIV9_9 There's truth to what you say here. While I wouldn't characterize Spinoza's philosophy as cheap, it's important to understand, as you have pointed out, that Spinoza is a rationalist and mystic, very much like a Neoplatonist. His philosophy has very little in common with contemporary philosophy.

    • @pradyumansingh7575
      @pradyumansingh7575 Před 2 lety +6

      Freud , Einstein , Deleuze , Foucault want more ?

    • @danzo1711
      @danzo1711 Před 2 lety

      @@pradyumansingh7575 In which way does he anticipate any of them?

    • @rajatchandra3209
      @rajatchandra3209 Před 2 lety +7

      @Mustuffa _CIV9_9 Einstein believed in Spinoza's kind of god. Also, Schopenhaur and most of german and european philosophy and poetry originated from Buddhism or Upnishads or other texts.

  • @masteroftheart5548
    @masteroftheart5548 Před 2 lety +22

    I was drawn in because I think of myself as a Spinoza fanboy and am now going through all of your videos. This channel is a fantastic find.

  • @DiamorphineDeath
    @DiamorphineDeath Před 2 lety +18

    This is fantastic; I ordered Deleuze’s text on Spinoza the other day, and have a copy of “theological-political treatise” sitting in my bookshelf....never interacted with him before, so stoked to start digging into it. Thanks again for the video dude

  • @TheTalesHein
    @TheTalesHein Před 2 lety +32

    Many times "phil. youtube" is filled with bad interpretations of many authors ideas and arguments, but certainly this is NOT the case. Awesome video!

    • @epochphilosophy
      @epochphilosophy  Před 2 lety +18

      I've noticed a lot of CZcams regarding philosophy seems to be 'pop-culture' philosophy if that makes sense. If it's not, it tends to be really dull, dry, non-inspiring slideshow videos lol. Which are great, but I'm hoping to bridge the artistic video gap with something that actually delves into core ideas.

    • @crazysheepfilms
      @crazysheepfilms Před 2 lety +1

      @@epochphilosophy Rockin' it

  • @doublenegation7870
    @doublenegation7870 Před 2 lety +150

    Lmao "Jyles Dellooze"

    • @juliozz59
      @juliozz59 Před rokem +6

      Is it relevant how one `mis-`pronounces a name? My name gets `boo`-tchered frequently + as a nonnative speaker I fail to pronounce names/words often without losing meaning (from the participant's and one-self perspective)
      much love

    • @CrazyLinguiniLegs
      @CrazyLinguiniLegs Před rokem +27

      @@juliozz59 relevant? Probably not. Funny? Yes.

    • @TreThesk
      @TreThesk Před rokem +1

      My thoughts exactly lololol

    • @christopherellis2663
      @christopherellis2663 Před 4 měsíci +4

      Žil dəløz, when I went to school 🏫. Yankees not know how to know. Ten minutes research on the Internet is too much trouble.

  • @y.elfakir8192
    @y.elfakir8192 Před 3 lety +26

    Keep it up man, you're making me smarter with each vid

  • @vauchomarx6733
    @vauchomarx6733 Před 2 lety +57

    Plot twist: The two people from the comment section still unsubscribed for you mispronouncing Gilles ("Jill") Deleuze ;)

  • @eleftheriosepikuridis9110

    Thank you for finally covering this fascinating topic

  • @gedde5703
    @gedde5703 Před 2 lety +10

    The way you truly bring forth the essence of what makes these ideas so profound through your visual effects and music is absolutely incredible.
    Thank you for not only bringing philosophy to us in a digestible manner, but also for making it interesting, captivating, and enthralling.

    • @epochphilosophy
      @epochphilosophy  Před 2 lety +4

      Thanks a ton. Such a kind comment. Never thought about it in terms of 'essence' but that makes sense. I try to make it as artistically captivating as possible.

  • @PseudoPseudoDionysius
    @PseudoPseudoDionysius Před 2 lety

    Another brilliant piece of work! Thanks for this.

  • @awakeenlighten2298
    @awakeenlighten2298 Před rokem +2

    I just subbed ... love this channel!

  • @smooa1889
    @smooa1889 Před 2 lety +6

    another incredible one i have a feeling your channel is gonna get big

  • @rdblk9710
    @rdblk9710 Před 2 lety +7

    Loved it. I try to explain this stuff to not-philosophically-educated people and I just end up doing something like the blanket scene from I Heart Huckabee's. Now I can outsource the work to this vid.

  • @JuanPerez-od4pq
    @JuanPerez-od4pq Před 2 lety +1

    Thank for make these types of videos.

  • @heiswatching
    @heiswatching Před 2 lety +7

    The pronunciation of Gilles gave me whiplash. Great vid tho

  • @Musika1321
    @Musika1321 Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you so much for this :) This video is helping me to understand what seems to understand some of Bhaskar's Critical Realism.

  • @mjolninja9358
    @mjolninja9358 Před 3 lety +3

    Yooo thank you for this man

  • @najeraluna
    @najeraluna Před 3 měsíci

    Great video. Clear account. Interesting film footage in the background. It wasn’t distracting, actually.

  • @washedupfreak1781
    @washedupfreak1781 Před 2 lety +3

    I really needed this. ✊

    • @epochphilosophy
      @epochphilosophy  Před 2 lety +4

      The art of trying to understand (and not moralize) really is that, an art. Or it atleast requires it. And/or an art that takes a ton of practice.
      Makes life a lot better though. I think we owe a debt to Deleuze for this.

  • @JoshFairhead
    @JoshFairhead Před rokem

    This is an awesome summary

  • @svperuzer
    @svperuzer Před rokem

    I love your videos dude!

  • @elainemcginnartist
    @elainemcginnartist Před 2 lety

    more than 2 people now ! thanks so much, great video.

  • @josephschel
    @josephschel Před 2 lety +2

    Excellent video, please consider making one on Deleuze and Guattari's Thousand Plateaus, would be very much appreciated and used in class

    • @epochphilosophy
      @epochphilosophy  Před 2 lety +3

      Yup. Absolutely love Pills. Did a video on Anti-Oedipus as well. I may have to leave A Thousand Plateau's to him.
      Atleast for now. Later in the future I want to do explicit D&G stuff.

    • @josephschel
      @josephschel Před 2 lety +1

      @@epochphilosophy Or take What is Philosophy, I think this will connect very well with this video, and draw great interest

  • @mylesjeffers6148
    @mylesjeffers6148 Před 2 lety

    Really wonderful video! It's funny, I'd never delved into Spinoza but have obviously encountered and been influenced by people he's influenced because I found myself thinking, wow that's exactly my view of the world, at lots of points in the video

  • @huntsman8787
    @huntsman8787 Před 2 lety +2

    I was pretty salty that this got selected over Chomsky's Syntactic Structures, but now after watching the video, I think this was good. Thanks. Hopefully we get the syntactic structures video soon!

    • @epochphilosophy
      @epochphilosophy  Před 2 lety +1

      Nope! It actually wasn't. Two different polls luckily for you!

  • @sirako
    @sirako Před 2 lety

    I love Deleuze and Spinoza and this video is pure love

  • @RVGODZILLA
    @RVGODZILLA Před 2 lety +2

    Bangin vid dude! Well done PCE

  • @thelaghingman
    @thelaghingman Před 2 lety

    Is there any way to access the sources you drew on for this video? I'd love to get more into this, but I wasn't sure if I should just dive into the Ethics, or what works of Deleuze are connected to this topic, etc.

    • @epochphilosophy
      @epochphilosophy  Před 2 lety +1

      Really my only two sources for this were Spinoza's Ethics, and Deleuze's Spinoza: Practical Philosophy.

  • @kofi9212
    @kofi9212 Před 2 lety +2

    This is incredible

  • @rustcohle733
    @rustcohle733 Před 3 lety

    Excellent video

  • @memyself4852
    @memyself4852 Před 2 lety +11

    was ontology really considered dead? Cybernetics brings up plenty of new ideas in process philosophy - is Deleuze really the first guy to have explored that? I've been thinking about the implications of cybernetics for ages, I assumed it would be well-worn ground in academia by now.

  • @andreasraab5294
    @andreasraab5294 Před 2 lety +1

    Hat mir sehr gefallen und ist sehr gut gemacht.

  • @socialswine3656
    @socialswine3656 Před 2 lety +3

    Daily watch. In the trinity with plastic pills video on Deleuze/ Nietzsche and the then and now video on the rhizome

  • @parkertrager4849
    @parkertrager4849 Před 2 lety

    Awesome!! Keep it up

  • @mariamoraes2903
    @mariamoraes2903 Před 2 lety

    Thank you very much 👏😊

  • @phatpoint
    @phatpoint Před 2 lety +1

    Outstanding

  • @trickbaby8441
    @trickbaby8441 Před 2 lety

    background music is pretty slick

  • @epsilonzeromusic
    @epsilonzeromusic Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks man! this video makes me want to make a second account and like it once more

  • @drakeallen369
    @drakeallen369 Před 2 lety

    Where's the link to the podcast?

  • @orangejuice1838
    @orangejuice1838 Před 2 lety +2

    Great video! One thing I don't understood about Deleuze was this (maybe someone can help): Deleuze embraced Spinoza's immanence, but starts to differ from Spinoza when he claims God is of the modes. At the end of Difference and Repetition he says to "Turn the modes around." It seems that he is turning against the unity of Spinoza's God in favor of Difference? I'd appreciate if someone could help. (Again great video and the editing was amazing!)

  • @refiner2317
    @refiner2317 Před 2 lety

    good work.

  • @ricktalks7420
    @ricktalks7420 Před rokem

    Good Video .👍🏻

  • @zekedeezy
    @zekedeezy Před 6 měsíci

    Thanks!

  • @vaughanmottley5308
    @vaughanmottley5308 Před 2 lety +1

    I would love a video on whitehead please!!!!

  • @MusicMissionary
    @MusicMissionary Před 2 lety +1

    Reminds me of Daoism and other versions of non-dualism. It's interesting to see how people coming from different directions seem to end up in the same place.

  • @screensaves
    @screensaves Před 2 lety

    amazing video

  • @mytruth1st
    @mytruth1st Před 8 měsíci

    All philosophy is measurable, the essence of basic physics, not in the distraction of metaphysics or quantum physics opinions which sits in the realm of theology, thank you.

    • @mytruth1st
      @mytruth1st Před 8 měsíci

      The magic and sorcery of word casting, spelling unveiled reflects the Natural law, cosmic law, universal law of also plagiarised Hermetic principles all saying the same things when unpacked I feel in the addition of generative force which being the 8th principle. ALL is mind, UNIverse is mental, ALL(substance, infinite and immutable) is all (aptitudes, modes, finite and mutable) but all can never be ALL, DaVinci is the Mona Lisa but the Mona Lisa can never be DaVinci as an analogy . Spirit mind circuit we are all connected. Hegel in affect of his dialectic is observed in the decline of our civilisation by the tyrant and priest projectionist . No freewill exists in the cave with the only freewill being love or fear of which all else is born

  • @averroesaverroesaverroesav2756

    Thanks

  • @LogicGated
    @LogicGated Před 2 lety +1

    Definitely gonna need to watch this one a few times to get everything lol

  • @shrewdagency6588
    @shrewdagency6588 Před 2 lety

    Cracking stuff... have an affect 🤘🕶🤘

  • @citizenschallengeYT
    @citizenschallengeYT Před 2 lety

    1:40. Right from the gitgo, I find it telling that evolution is never brought into a consideration of "What is a Tree?" Why is Evolution so rarely brought into these discussion of "What is real" or the 'consciousness question', etc.? Can anyone help explain that for me?

    • @masteroftheart5548
      @masteroftheart5548 Před 2 lety +2

      I really think if anyone tackled this question of evolution in discussions of what things are it’s Deluze. His theory of identity via repetition and imperfect repetition I think incorporates this struggle. I would recommend the channel Then and Now who did a very good introduction to Deluze that I think addressed this.

    • @shogun9450
      @shogun9450 Před 8 měsíci

      Materialists

  • @CCymposting
    @CCymposting Před 2 lety +14

    Woah does this mean I can threaten to unsubscribe and get an Agamben video :0

  • @jalalodinsalehi5639
    @jalalodinsalehi5639 Před rokem

    God this channel is awesome

  • @MotorcyclePhaedrus
    @MotorcyclePhaedrus Před rokem

    I kept thinking of william blake towards the end, though my knowledge of his works is limited.

  • @Destroianus
    @Destroianus Před 2 lety +3

    JAAILS DELOUZ
    (sorry for rant but Gilles is pronounced as the french J (Je m'appelle..) + the english word 'eel' with the vowel being a bit shorter)
    edit: guess I was being a priest huh

  • @sigriddolan8583
    @sigriddolan8583 Před 3 lety

    thank uuuu

  • @milkman4178
    @milkman4178 Před 8 měsíci

    Those two commenters threatening to unsubscribe have done us a huge favour, shout out to them

  • @joshuaguiness946
    @joshuaguiness946 Před rokem +4

    Jyles Dilooze

  • @KoneKone
    @KoneKone Před 2 lety

    🔥🔥🔥

  • @the_famous_reply_guy
    @the_famous_reply_guy Před 2 lety

    Reading Deleuze is like "Oh God how did I not see this before"

  • @benzur3503
    @benzur3503 Před 2 lety +1

    The hole in spinozas jacket was from being attacked by a man from his early community on the street after getting excommunicated

  • @Fryguystudios
    @Fryguystudios Před 2 lety +6

    "Jeyeles deleuze"
    Stopped the video; closed the browser; turned off the computer; called the philosophy police; got told to "fuck off."

  • @ericlorge3453
    @ericlorge3453 Před 2 měsíci

    Gilles: "Jzeel" - like "feel" beginning with a "jzh".

  • @thenowchurch6419
    @thenowchurch6419 Před 3 měsíci

    Thank you for the explication.
    There is much useful insight in Deleuze but the antinomianism he keeps stressing , as did Nietzsche before him, is a poison in his ointment.

  • @mapleandsteel
    @mapleandsteel Před 2 lety

    This sorta reminds me of Adhishankara's Advaita Vedanta

  • @benedictspinoza1025
    @benedictspinoza1025 Před 2 lety

    Great Video! (besides that butchered pronunciation of Gilles which can only be compared to the pronunciation of Wagner in birth of tragedy)

  • @squeezequeevus3318
    @squeezequeevus3318 Před 2 lety +1

    you sound like nathan fielder

  • @truthterrain3484
    @truthterrain3484 Před 11 měsíci

    There is understanding only if there is law.

  • @rapisode1
    @rapisode1 Před 2 lety +4

    My problem with mainstream faiths is that they put 'god' in some unknowable place. While philosophers such as Spinoza, Adi Shankara, meister Eckhart, and Ibn Arabi (Jewish, Hindu, christian and Muslim) all said Look! God is in everything you see! And you are a part of that! It's beautiful to realize this in ordinary, daily life actually. It gives life so much more meaning.

  • @shfizzle
    @shfizzle Před 2 lety

    Damn dude...

  • @the9263
    @the9263 Před 2 lety

    But how can you find the essence of your consciousness is constantly expanding away from your self?

  • @JoeCorneli
    @JoeCorneli Před 2 lety +1

    Gyles?

  • @tugger
    @tugger Před 2 lety +8

    to pronounce Gilles
    say "fudge"
    hold on to the "dge"
    Then say "Jill" with "dge" in place of "J"
    you're welcome

  • @FreckoJoel
    @FreckoJoel Před 2 lety

    Great video! But I'm pretty sure Deleuze is pononced delöz

  • @jackhamilton1700
    @jackhamilton1700 Před 3 lety +3

    Hi

  • @sanammalik7116
    @sanammalik7116 Před rokem

    Spinoza's ethics is similar to Smakhaya Philosophy.

  • @miat9039
    @miat9039 Před 2 lety +2

    A friend of mine said that spinoza is deleuze waifu

  • @andreimiron2689
    @andreimiron2689 Před 2 lety

    Pls try to put subtitles in romanian. Thx!

  • @faustian_talos
    @faustian_talos Před rokem

    Umm ELI5 for us non-philosophers?

  • @alexandredamasceno3455

    Jials Deleuze

  • @eleftheriosepikuridis9110

    Another comment for the algorithm

  • @eleftheriosepikuridis9110

    and another comment for the algorithm

  • @numan9117
    @numan9117 Před 11 měsíci +1

    giles??

  • @vaiyaktikasolarbeam1906
    @vaiyaktikasolarbeam1906 Před 2 lety +2

    this is like some indian philosophy

  • @juliantaylor5956
    @juliantaylor5956 Před 7 měsíci

    Some of these mills your showing need some realignment LOL. One was wiggling all over the place

  • @DankAudioStash24
    @DankAudioStash24 Před 2 lety +5

    Good video but... you gotta work on your pronunciation of French names.

  • @Uniule
    @Uniule Před 5 měsíci

    It's pronounced "Jill" with soft J and L, not "JYLEZ"

  • @fafo867
    @fafo867 Před 2 lety

    have you read "the fascism of the potatoe"?
    ridiculous shit that went down in last century academia

  • @jNode
    @jNode Před 2 lety

    The substance being consciousness, enter analytic idealism.

  • @mattd8725
    @mattd8725 Před 2 lety

    Do you think the concept of the Nash equilibrium qualifies as a sad passion?

    • @epochphilosophy
      @epochphilosophy  Před 2 lety +1

      Unfamiliar with that, unfortunately.

    • @mattd8725
      @mattd8725 Před 2 lety +1

      @@epochphilosophy People normally talk about it in terms of how in the "prisoners dilemma" it is better to talk to the cops and get a lower sentence because you can't trust your accomplices. Very influential idea.

  • @Kines332
    @Kines332 Před 8 měsíci +2

    How can you be so smart and not even bother to pronounce his name correctly?

  • @amauryjack
    @amauryjack Před 2 lety

    Reasons to learn English

  • @animefurry3508
    @animefurry3508 Před 2 lety

    This reminds me of the Dao!?

    • @rapisode1
      @rapisode1 Před 2 lety

      Same old mysticism, it's all the same across the board.

    • @edoardoCanny
      @edoardoCanny Před 2 lety +2

      dao Is about non-dualism opposed to dualism
      deleuze is about "it doesn even matter to say dualism or monism"
      pluralism=monism as every dualism is not refused but is twisted, composed, created in always creative line of flight

  • @MacSmithVideo
    @MacSmithVideo Před 2 lety

    There are some problems with your explanation of Spinoza's thought and extension here. They most certainly aren't modes, and they can't be reduced to senses.