The $250,000 Unlimited Flight Pass: A Terrible Mistake
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Written by Adam Chase
Steven Rothstein: Im hungry
American airlines: *nervous sweating*
LOL
Probably they would save money opening the same sandwich store close to his home.
This is the funniest thing I've read on this app 😂
3,999 to 4k’th like
Why like no replies
- how will you be paying, sir?
- no
- ok, this way sir
Arthur 😂
666 likes
Trip to Tahiti?
*I've got a plan Arthur*
No no. This time it's a good one
@@petertang3355 no
- leads to the plane exit and throws you down the plane -
no u*
The biggest disadvantage with purchasing it is that you'd still be flying with American Airlines.
That's why only 28 people took it instead of way more. They would still have to fly with American airlines and nobody wants to deal with that
In other words, they wouldn’t be flying for very long, or living lol
Why do we bash every single airline company lmao
@@fall3166 hey, we dont bash others AS MUCH as american airlines
@@fall3166 it’s funny
I'm going to add this to a list of things I should buy if I ever time travel back in time.
Did that tomorrow
I'll be right behind you buying thousands of bitcoins.
You're going back in time as an Indian to try and boonk some flights? Good luck with them Brits and Pakistanis lmfao
Pull a Marty McFly. Buy a sports almanac. Travel back in time. Head to Vegas. Take over the world
@@ammarkhan6883 yes. pak was formed somewhere is 1947
"Honey, we're out of bread again! Can you run to the store?"
"Sure thing babe. Do you want Al Fresco's from San Francisco or Mario's from Italy?"
I would take a bologna sandwich from 39 miles away
Whoosh If gay ironically, a Rhode Islander would never travel that far for a sandwich
@Whoosh If gay
R/Whoosh
I want bread from Luigi!
@@ariscool7028 You'll settle for a flour torilla from Waluigi's Taco Stand and you'll LIKE IT
It’s actually cheaper than owning your own jet.
really? how u get 37 thumbs up is beyond me.
@@gaydilla wtf? no shit man. thats why I said how can the comment have so many up thumbs. I thought it sorta goes without saying...
Gas, pilots, maintenance, hanger airport fees. Soo nahh
thtspreegud that’s so bde calling out sde so quick. 👏
Exactly, you dont even have to have your own landing or preparation...you can literally enter the airport anytime and fly anywhere 😂 man i am interested in this pass, so bad they dont sell it again :(
let's appreciate that rothstein was being a bro and gifting free first class flights to help people out. unfortunate that it ended up costing him though
Maybe not, AA would only settle out of court if they knew they had a decent chance of losing, so the settlement they reached was probably pretty sweet.
@@johnr797 If I were them I'd have just given him his airpass back but the companion one would be downgraded to a 50% discount for 1 companion so that he couldn't "abuse" it anymore.
@@GamePlague it was costing them too much money so at that point they were looking for a reason to take it off of him.
No good dead goes unpunished...
Man your pfp is nostalgic
American Airlines: After much trials and tribulation, we have found out that planes need fuel
Interesting
Ha! No one else even noticed how worthless that sentence was...XD
You don't say?
was it half as Interesting?
@@techgamar6012 understood the reference
Rothstein: flies 16,000,000 miles:
Random guy flying once: *crashes and dies*
Nick.s1010 underrated comment
Isn't that ironic, don't you think.
Me: sees meme
hol up
Me: sees icon
*HOL'UP*
10m miles
*Perfectly balanced, as all things should be*
You would never be homeless, you could just fly around everywhere. Borrow money from the bank and they’d never catch up for the money!
Where would you bathe?
Rand Barrett a lot of airports have showers and facilities for business people
I think If you are dropping millions of $ (in today’s money) you probably will never be homeless 😂
Rand Barrett you bath when your flight gets canceled and they put you in free a hotel room! Joking or course!
you wouldn’t be homeless anyway if you had that much money
Okay that’s actually super surprising and really nice that the pass holders would give people free first class upgrades or help others get home. You never hear about rich people doing random acts of kindness, so that was surprisingly wholesome.
"I paid for the whole plane ticket, so I'm going to use the whole plane ticket."
Underrated lmao
"Jet engines dont work without fuel"
Every 60s a minute passes in africa.
Alexrider901111 woah that’s deep
But those 60s feel so relaxing compared to a minute in America.. I definitely take 60s at home in Tanzania relaxing over 1 minute stressing in USA..
Been a while since I watched Tyrone
I bless the time down in Africa!
People die when they are killed
Rothstein: I forgot my pen at home
Also Rothstein: *flies back home to grab his pen*
@@angrybird7324 you are just envious he is a "fuck-you-rich" investment banker.
Angry Bird lol someone’s butt-hurt. It’s alright man don’t be mad
@@angrybird7324 ? it'd be so much fun, you can go anywhere you want whenever you want, and if you have the companion pass you can go with a friend or a spouse or whatever
Flies*
@@angrybird7324 with that type of money, he doesn't need friends or a family, he can just buy them and then return them when he's tired.
“Booffet”
_"boofay"_
This should be every comment! I can believe I had to scroll this far to find it.
Warren Boofet
Boo fay
I have yet to meet one that can outsmart boofet
It’s so exhausting going on flights like how could you want a sandwich so bad to fly for 4 hours even if it’s free 🥵
Because it's a first class flight
You obviously have never flown first class
i flew first class my first time in 2019 for free using miles. and i can and will never fly anything less (for long distance) first class is truly an experience man IDK what it is. fuck its luxurious lol.
@@Mica_T Also because they could just rock up to the plane back in the day. Today with our increased security processes its probably much harder work to be able to fly every day???
@@valvalerio2642 and you’ve obviously never went to school😭
They literally sold him a private jet with unlimited food,serving and pilot for 250,000 bucks
And no maintenance costs on his end. A private airline experience for 400K. That's a lot of money, yes, but to the ultra rich in our society, that is a deal you simply can't pass up,
@@EdwardBrown77 and the super rich, millionares
@steam driver they were bought by businessmen, not some random travellers. businessmen usually all go to the same places, and in the rare cases they'd need to go somewhere that isn't served by AA, they're able to buy a ticket for another flight from another airline that goes where they need to go, or they could charter a private flight.
Exactly, if you could afford it you would have been mad not to take them up on it.
Most “literal” private jets don’t carry one- or two- or three-hundred other passengers, or require the owner to fly on a schedule that’s been determined by far-off managers whom the owner will never meet, or issue orders to.
You would be crazy not to use that pass for literally everything.
I know I would
xirsamoht x No. cause it’s not a private jet. They would be flying with other passengers.
@xirsamoht x Are you stupid ? These planes will fly whether you're on it or not.
I disagree. Having to drive to the airport, park, go through security, etc is a huge hassle
@xirsamoht x you sir, are fucking stupid
I'm reminded of Pepsi offering a fighter jet for a competition prize, then being pikachu-faced when some bloke actually won the competition and tried to claim his award.
That wasn’t exactly it. Pepsi had a campaign called Pepsi Points. You could get Pepsi points from buying marked Pepsi products. You could also just buy Pepsi points for 10 cents each.
They had an TV commercial where it shows off stuff you can buy with Pepsi points, and how many points it costs. They showed a kid wearing a T-shirt for 75 Pepsi points, and sunglasses for 175 . In the end, the kid flies a AV-8 Harrier Fighter Jet to school. At the end, it says the Harrier is worth 7 million Pepsi points. That equates to $700,000, and the Jet was valued at $24 million.
The guy saw this, and wrote a $700,000 check to Pepsi asking to buy the points and the Jet.
@@squeaksquawk4255 if i understood the netflix documentary, the marketing said that was meant to be 700,000,000 pepsi points to get the jet, what is worth 70mi dollars
@@Airton2 The change to the number of points happened after the legal battle that followed the guy asking them for the jet, which eventually was settled in Pepsi's favor because they argued that the showing of the jet was made in hyperbole and wasn't to be taken seriously. To prevent anyone else from trying the same stunt, they made it into 700,000,000 points instead.
And fun fact, as was brought up in the legal case, in order for it to be sold to a civilian it would have to be demilitarized, which would mean (obviously) to remove all of it's weapon capabilities, but also it's ability to fly; the main reason you'd own a jet in the first place.
LIQUID DEATH IS DOING IT AGAIN!
And they swear you'll get the jet this time.
I get the argument that they gave him “to the moon and back” distance in travel but he was booking a free SINGLE seat on flights that were already going to fly anyway with or without him that were booked with other paid passengers. “Loss” here is hard to quantify because he flew because he could. He most definitely wouldn’t have flown at all if the wasn’t a pass holder.
The majority of the money that airlines make is from the first class tickets, not the economy. Since there’s a limited amount of first class tickets, they may be losing money by having thousands of flights go without a first class seat. Think of it basically like every time someone uses this pass, the number of first class seats on the plane is subtracted by 1. This can make a big dent in a company already struggling to make money.
It's called the opportunity cost. The airline lost out on selling that seat to another passenger. Planes are often full, so that's a real cost.
@@pancakeman5247 that's assuming they fill up business class seats all the time which they probably don't.
@@RedwaterPublishing depends on the time and destination. International flights are often very full, especially in the morning and at night. But say, domestic flights right around noon are not always full.
@@sirkikesteinshekelberg9091 Yes, but the point is there is a real cost the airlines can easily calculate. I'm challenging the flawed logic that he didn't cost the airlines extra money. LOL. That's ridiculous. BTW, when flying via JFK or LAX, even at noon on a weekday, those flights can be full or near full. Smaller airports, maybe not.
With that type of card you don’t even need a home they can just sleep on the 8 hour flight and wake up in the morning in London then at night travel back. After all, it’s first class
I think you would have all your meals covered, but would have no shower ☹️
@@matthew8505 yea that’s the bad part
@@Fatima-hl2qg in the USA NY truck stops have showers for a few dallors
Many* not ny
There is showers in first class lounge
I feel like the people with these lifetime passes all own private jets by now
Exactly! Mark Cuban had his own plane. Why will he need a pass
@@dparag14 Right... And i mean like even in 1981, if you had the $250,000 to throw at the pass, you already were pretttyyyy well off, maybe not private jet level but in a good place. By now though, odd are that they are all veryyyy rich and have jets... So these passes are just sitting on a shelf somewhere... I'd like to see how many people used them in 2019
Sankofa NYC they probably just use it as a status symbol or trophy at this point like buying shitty art for millions that nobody really cares about
@@nintendu64 I mean if an art piece sells for millions then clearly someone cares about them . Lol
Depends what kind of jet. Commercial airline flights are generally safer than private planes.
“Going across continents just to get lunch” is beyond logic
Yeah, but... good food.
It's a flex. Flexing is inherently illogical.
@@slllloraxxx to be honest not really, the more he uses the planes the better value he gets of the card. So him flying over seas to buy a sandwich is saving him money lmao
If you divide the cost of the pass by how much he flew, it really wasn’t more extreme than driving to get lunch locally. It took more time, but hey, why not? If I had the pass, I’d probably do the same.
My question - What did the airlines expect if I'm buying the all time life pass I'm going to Mexican to get some nachos, italy for pasta and france for croissant
They hoped that the people, who have bought this pass, have a fear of flying
@@pingpong_ then why would the people buy it in the first place?
Hurry up w my damn croissants - K.west
I don’t think they even eat much nachos in Mexico lol.. that’s more of an American thing
@@dannytv12 yeah
I sat next to baby on a ten hour flight. I didn’t think it was possible for someone to cry for ten hours straight.
Even the baby was impressed I pulled it off.
I rate that joke 7/10. Predictable twist, but still managed to make me smile a bit.
You had me in the first half not gonna lie.
I rate it 4/20
Good one.
Congrats, you made me exhale slightly faster through my nose 👏👏
"Just like any red blooded American would, they all sued" 😂😂
What are those paintings he talked about though.
@@dparag14 I think it's supposed to represent all the overpriced paintings but I don't know which one specifically.
HumorousAirWay bruh what do u watch
@@dparag14 first one is Pollack's No. 5, 1948 and the second one is de Kooning's Woman as Painting
Satyam Gupta Amen, sue all you can and some day you’ll be rich.
Their mistake was not that they sold those passes but that they calculated it wrong. They assumed the price based on how people travel on average. However, the mistake is, not considering the fact that average people won't be buying such a pass, only those who travel a lot would so they set the price way too low.
And another note, travelling too much by plane isn't good for your health because of increased radiation levels higher in the atmosphere.
And unless you've got good earplugs, shouldn't your hearing get worse over time as well?
You think the average flyer spends more than a million dollars on flights in their life?
@@fr3ak1shh No, American Airlines did, and it cost them.
@@giantclaw138 don’t you think someone traveling like that everyday would get an industrial noise canceling headset? Like the ones plane parking staff uses, or the guys in construction and heavy machinery.
He wasn't traveling for need, he was traveling because he wanted to abuse the privilege.
Am I the only one wondering how damn good that bologna sandwich must have been to bother booking a flight just to go get one?
Who cares, it's free
Buy the lifetime ticket
@@TransistorBased it is, but thats still a lof of time to spend in the plane/at the airport and on the way to/from it
They're lucky they didn't sell too many of those passes.
That would've evened the things out.
@@Amilakasun1 Not if every person used them as much as these people.
electronicsNmore there lucky they didn’t make it passable imagine if you could give it to your kids
sowavy24 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@sowavy24 That is fairytale dreams, no business unless they are about to bankrupt would ever do that. At least try to be realistic, this idea just plain make no sense and is no no right from the start.
So they “soon discovered they made a terrible mistake”, but kept on offering the pass from 1982 thru 1994.. So how’s that “soon”?
"soon™"
That's not a long time for a business like that
Max Scott well it’s not soon either
Rob van den Nieuwelaar and they re-offered it in 2004 i think
They eventually discovered
Man this is the one thing that is worth going into debt for. 👀
No
Fly away from the debtors 😂
@@googane7755 finally someone gets it.
The guy who managed to do 10,000 flights got first-class travel for $25 a trip, anywhere in the world. Math is cool! ($250,000 pass/10,000 flights)
ah yes, a $25 first class air ticket.
amazing
Ah math, it’s so satisfying when you can divide by just taking the zeros away
Glad to see I have something in common with a $250,000 Unlimited Flight Pass
Waiting to r/woooooooosh someone
@@slifer0081 This isn't reddit
F...
ɆӾłⱠɆ 44 no one that doesnt get the joke so far!
......................,........ Ok.
Imagine taking a flight just to pick up some shopping in a different continent because your local shop doesn’t have your favourite milk
your* your*
@@HangingDGrunt tbh I am milk
ArmyTrashhh ok
Lots of people travel to milan just to shop and then come back
Jotaro KujoTM fixed are you happy
This Rothstein guy must have had all the time he needed , that's a lot of time traveling and waiting in airports
With a first class ticket, waiting wouldn’t have been too much of a problem
@@emiliasanchez3637 still, flying in a plane without any reason is just dumb. I am pilot and had mostly free flight but I won't want to waste my time.
@@my2cents366 idk, I'd do it
A banker, what do you expect.
The most interesting part of this video was his pronunciation of buffet
"It costs $400,000..."
Hmm, do I get unlimited flights with a friend, or fire this minigun for 12 seconds?
P O O T I S
Minigun, of course.
If AA owns an A-10, no need to decide
WHO TOUCH MY GUN
eliminate the scout who annoyed and dominated you for 12 minutes straight
Wasn't a terrible mistake for the people who bought the pass.
Yes it was still a contract
Terrible for the Airline
Terrible mistake as in for the company
2:15 "all you can eat boo-fay"
excuse me what did you just say
Had a boss with this, best part of all is that he still accrued frequent flyer miles too, so he could then drag others with him on top of the companion pass. He really did do the fly to Tokyo for lunch a few times.
"Used fake names no one would ever use"
Hello Mr. BinLaden, enjoy your flight
Usa presidents never gifted camel to regular citizens.Dude he had his very own golden airflight and he literally gifted airplane to all of his close folks.
Mr. Icewallow Come
ay thanks for the 500 bits nick gur!
One flight to London for Mike Rotch please!
Underatted
"Food so good you'll eat your fingers off!"
Not gonna lie, I'm curious at least.
Someone said in the You-tube comment section that they could swear Chinese KFCs fry gods own chickens over there. Apparently they actually fry cockatrices.
3:12 segenment is very misleading. Its worded in a way that implies AAirlines book flights for his needs. It doesnt cost them $1000 if he got hungry because they needed to get a plane ready, they already had that flight scheduled. If just cost them the oppurtunity of 1-2 first class sales. Which on an average continental US flight arent booked.
This video's wording is quite pro-AA. Them not taking the time to explain they the fliers had a notable opportunity cost and what that meant is just raw bootlicking
I've never heard buffet pronounced like "boofay" before.
I'm surprised AA didnt get them all on one flight together in a "celebration" and then MH370 the plane
Plot twist MH370 was what u said and they just gave that pass to some one they know who never flies to not get suspicious
I like how you've used MH370 as a verb
@@kokoaphool anything is a verb if you use it right
Betel Geuse what’s that?
@The high ground I saw you could get a 737-200 for about 2 mil.
“Your Friend”
“Your Spouse”
“Your Friend’s Spouse”
*Holup*
I would "love" to fly with my friends spouse while he is at work
Do you not stay in contact with your friends significant others? I do as long as they’re together, went out for dinner with my friends ex once, wasn’t a date just a birthday thing.
@@shadowninja958 you can only take one other person so taking your friends spouse is a big no no
@@OliverOcelot29 That's stupid
To let him meet his family across the world without the ability to BOOM *finger guns* save cha 😊😂
$250k for what's essentially your own semi-private jet that you can take anywhere in the world, with all the benefits of a top-class flight, AND being able to share those same benefits with people you take on the flight with you - on top of it being available for your entire lifetime - is such a good long-term deal that it's almost criminal. I'd buy that in a heartbeat if I could - use it to travel to all the different places I've wanted to go to for years.
Back in the day, my mom worked under Steve Rothstein in Chicago. He even booked my mom under several names when she wanted to travel.
I would fly just to eat some of thát : "BOOOO FEY".. Sounds interesting
That* english dpes not have accent letters
Iqbal Mala it’s not dpes it is dpëš
That's how it is pronounced though. Dumb yanks 😂
what if it actually is a 'POOOO Fey'...?
James T Oh yes I go to the gym to get BOOF
Okay but it’s actually so nice that they try to use their additional pass to help out strangers
Let's be honest, people like this don't "help out", they use "quid pro quo".
@@DrZaius3141 You clearly haven't actually met people who are well off. They're some of the most helpful people you could hope to meet, for the most part.
@@AUniqueHandleName444 like Trump
@@dickbutt7854 What does that have to do with Trump? I hate Trump, but he is irrelevant in this discussion. If he said that every rich guy is nice, then it would make sense.
@@TheRagingSun that's basically what he said...
It only costs them if 2 things happen. 1. the person uses the pass for trips they otherwise would have paid for it. 2. they fill a seat that could otherwise be sold.
Yup and 1. Can't be proven either way it's like how much money the music industry thinks they'd make without piracy
2. They could solve that by simply putting a clause in that normal procedure ticket holders take priority over them. So they can only fly on planes with empty first class seats
So this makes sense why the Dallas Mavericks play in American Airlines Center.
How many unlimited Toyota Corolla rides though?
Wait nvm wrong channel
only one ride...the final one
Lol
Carl S 1994 celica or death
PhCuber05 what do you mean?
90's Corolla have unlimited ride when you buy it.
Damn resilient cars
Air Koryo is the best and most trustworthy airline
Kim Jong-un totally agree
indeed it is
Air India: Hold my ticket.
I hear Air Koryo is #1 in North Korea! Is this true Dear Leader?
Yes
That pass is probably part of Mark Cuban's success. It's much easier to do business if you know that you and a companion can fly first class at no cost. First class is nice. I've never been seated there, but just walking through it, it looks amazing.
Can someone help me understand how they calculated the “costs” to the airline in the video? I would think that it would be way lower than the video implied, considering the flights would have happened either way, and the only cost would be lost revenue if the passenger takes a seat from someone that was going to book but now couldn’t because the plane was filled. But how likely is that? I’d say only about 20% of flights I’ve personally been on (pre covid) have had a full first class.
Lost revenue
@@paladin5105 yeahhh and theres no way lost revenue would be to the extent that the video was claiming
Yes I feel this is overexaggerated, the flight is going to london anyway with or without you, he just make it sound like it's a private plane flying you personally.
Business travelers represent most of the revenue in a plane. Over 50% usually. So for every business class seat that is taken, they are losing thousands of dollars that they could have gotten from business travelers. Also your experience is not representative of the majority of flights. It depends a lot of the time of the year. If you’re traveling in common vacation periods, you might see less business people filling up first class, as they are not traveling as often. There definitely are a bunch of videos about this. If you read financial statements of some big airline you can also learn more about it.
Yep this overexaggerated. Those flights rarely have all first class seats booked so they lost nothing there. Only food cost.
1:59 caption reveals cut away adverts.
Sneaky HAI.
It's a problem with a lot of CZcams videos that their captions always reveal cut-out text. The worst is when they cut out a lot of text, so the captions just speed up and keep changing really quickly until they get back in sync with the actual final script. I literally don't know how CZcamsrs don't catch these.
@@chrisyfrisky This is minor honestly. I don't blame them honestly ahahaha.
Nice to see that they are human too.
Chris Yin I have no idea what you’re even talking about. Then again since his videos are all just stock footage there is almost no reason for me to watch. Much less see captions. I just play the video while phone is on my desk and listen
@@chrisyfrisky HAI made the captions
@@codycast The caption says: "or 32,875 years of CuriosityStream" which indicates that CuriosityStream was probably meant to be the sponsor of the video, but he must have changed it last minute to be Audible and just forgot to change the captions since it was so minor. I don't get why you have to be so mean about it though. If you don't wanna watch his videos, just... don't watch them?
Why is “Eat your fingers off” a great slogan tho
It's memorable! Genius marketing.
Mmmm cannabalism
I wouldn't even notice it was a mistranslation
When you take reality into consideration, this airline didn't lose any more money than the loss caused by the extra consumption of fuel caused by the added weight of these travelers bodies and luggage as well as any meal costs...
1. these planes were ALREADY going that way.
2. It's not like these people would have traveled just as much if they didn't have this Infinite ability.
....corporations get SO wrapped up in these hypothetical numbers and then fixate on them as if they're ACTUALLY real (it's ridiculous)..... petulant children 🙄
Just left a reply to a similar comment. It's the opportunity cost. First class seats are extremely expensive. When the plane has sold out of first class seats, there's an actual expense that's very real. They lose revenue on the seat they couldn't sell to the next person. I fly often for work, and planes are often full.
@@RedwaterPublishing does the airline actually able to sold out all First class tickets tho? I get what youre saying if its lower class tickets.
@@KissKing143 having them give it away devalues the product
Dude you are kidding right? They lose the money from that overpriced first class seat because lifers are flying for free and the person who would’ve paid first class is flying economy or they chose a different airline all together to fly first class.
@@JayD73 my family's been in aeronautics for decades... I come with insider knowledge here
...and do you REALLY believe that there were a ton of instances where these free flyers took the very LAST 1st class seat and forces a paying customer to downgrade or switch airlines entirely? REALLY?... you ACTUALLY think that?! 😆😆😆
The person owning that Airpass (1:06) is called Hal F. asintere-sting
Very noice
Why do people give him stick about making aviation videos? It's like going to McDonalds and saying "hamburgers again?" 🙄
no one is giving him stick about it.
People aren’t “complaining”, they’re for the most part joking about his love for aviation and are happy (or don’t mind) the aviation videos. Go to any decently sized channel and you’ll probably see people making all sorts of jokes about the content...
It's a joke and apparently 200+ people think it's funny to make the same joke every video again and again and again and again and again and again
@@hkr667 Never gets old, I tell ya!
@@syrialak101 it sooooo does
People don't realise that these people are like investors who saved them from bankruptcy. So they get free flights. This is how it works. They give you money to grow, scale or save you from bankruptcy. You promise different returns.
absolutely spot on...everything comes down to risk/reward. There was a high chance that AA would file for bankruptcy rendering the $250,000 unlimited pass completely useless. Hence, the deal had to be sweet enough for the customers (aka savvy investors) to buy in, despite the possibility of losing it all.
They would have made FAR more money than the flights were worth had they just plainly invested 250k-400k at that time. It's pretty shitty of AA to attack these people. They GAINED money by trading what should have been stocks for free flights instead.
@@andrewpanin3435 AA didn't attack hes people, the creator of this video did. AA did revoke two passes for blatant misuse/fraud because two users were reserving seats using fraudulent names and then offering those seats to random people.
The people who flew extremely often did not lose their passes because they didn't commit fraud.
Ikr. I don't really understand what's there to regret about. And the cost? With or without these Airpass passengers, the planes would still fly. I don't think Airpass passengers are the main contributor to the cost.
These airpass buyers literally saved them from bankruptcy... Regardless of whether or not 250k was enough to compensate for these buyers' flying
Babes & Board Games The ticket has to be booked in advance in the companion’s name. They just booked a companion ticket every time in a fake name and then found someone in the airport who needed to get to the same destination.
Steven Rothstein: I want some bread from Germany...
A'A: Heavy sweating
If time travel ever becomes a thing, I’m going back and getting one of these things
If time traveling would be available AA would also go back to make those tickets undone 😀
"Benedict Cumberbatch, names that no real human being would have"
Actually it was Cumerbatch in the video
Mats that’s even worse
Technically they’re not wrong. I don’t think anyone is named Cumerbatch.
omar garaali I know of him way before Doctor Strange - will always be Sherlock to me. I was pointing out they they misspelled his name. It’s CumBerbatch, the video said Cumerbatch.
I lol’d hard at that part
What's a Boo Fay?
I think it's a Canadian thing. Like poutine.
It is spelt Buffet
@@grozaphy Yes we know, he's pronouncing it wrong lmao
You dress as a ghost and eats whatever you wants
It’s a fairy trying to spook you
In the middle east "finger licking good" literally translates into "eat your fingers along with it" in arabic and everyone is ok with it. It's been like that forever 😂
I laughed more than i should've
Lol i live in the middle east and i didn't know that
Steven Rothstien: *gets hungry*
American Airlines: Oh no
That one guy who owned one of these cards:
I flew about 10 000 000 mi!
*Greta Thunberg has left the chat*
Greta: “How dare you!”
Or, as I keep saying she sounded like a Shakespearean actor/character, or Master Thespian from SNL: “whatfore dareth thee! I should thinkest thou display evil intent!”
Stinger Grail BRILLIANT!
Why do people hate her? In my opinion she said the truth you denied for years because your children *WILL* die because of "HIPPO".
@@kakahass8845 because everyone is sick of getting lectured by kids everyone knows are just puppets.
@@ChucksSEADnDEAD
1.Elaborate.
2.Are you saying that we shouldn't care about the future generations?
3.Puppets?
At 28 x 400,000 = 11.2mil which would have been enough to save American Airlines from bankruptcy, ultimately being the reason why they are still running today. If only 2 or 3 people exploited the system as severely as the ones mentioned in the video then thats not bad considering how much money they made upfront which kept them in buisness.
Yeah... These people don't cost AA anything. Since every cent they make today is because of these people. It's like if a company sold half of its shares to investors. And then after a few years when the company is worth 10 times more... complain that they sold the shares too cheap.
I agree that they are not a bad deal for AA at all. First class is seldom completely sold out and the plane will fly regardless if they are on board or not. AA only loses revenue if the unlimited ticket holder bumps out another paying customer and a lot of the flights spoken about seemed to be last minute whims so loss of another customer is unlikely. Whats the problem?
What's even worse, you can read up on these guys. American airline agents suggested the things that got their passes revoked, like the placeholder companion pass bookings and went along with it for years. And then corporate screwed them on it. To revoke 3 passes, which made no difference to a company that size. Pretty scummy.
watsis buttndo : Except AA still have to pay airport fees for them. Not a very lot, but there are some sums if they fly a lot. I also think first class gets free food and drinks. It can also be a lot.
@@watsisbuttndo829 AA has to pay taxes on the price of the tickets the passes are redeemed for
I remember listening to an interview with one of those guys, don't remember his name though, but he said that if he decides to go on a trip and shows up last minute at the airport American Airlines are obliged to take passengers out of first class to accomodate him and his companion if the flight is already fully booked.
The subtle humor in this is so good 😂
"American Airlines made a mistake."
Me: American Airlines is a mistake.
No that’s United
2much Steve Rosenberg...
Last time I was in an American Airlines flight the wings looked like they where about to just snap off 😂
@@-Name-here- airplane wings are supposed to be bendy, it makes them easier to dent but less likely to actually break from the energy of the plane and allows you to go up/down easier
Fly Delta
-I've flight 16 Million Km in my life
-You must've been very busy people
-Nah, i just enjoying my lunch and sandwich
Lol
If u become homeless just take the longest trips and eat sleep repeat and visit the world while u have nowhere to stay
#homeplane
Bruh that'd be epic
Then fall ill because of all the cosimic radiation you are exposed to, and die
I would like to know how they calculated the cost. If they used the actual price of each first class ticket then sure, it would look like they lost tons of money. But considering first class is rarely fully booked, the additional cost for each first class customer is just some food and drinks which is not too bad.
That picture of the four seats circling a table, please tell me that was never a thing. I can’t imagine spending a whole flight staring someone in the face.
@aresef Not too long ago (the 1990’s) SouthWest Airlines had seats that faced each other. On Friday night flights from L.A. to Vegas it was always a blast to sit in those seats since everyone was in a party mood and you made new friends with those who you were facing.
Lol
Those are lounge seats. Once the plane is up in the air you can get a drink and sit at the lounge. In the 1970s, 747s used to have full upper deck lounges.
Not so long ago you could smoke on the flight.
And lot of at least local airlines were fine with guns on board.
Don't forget those were the times with smoking permit and free booze.
I imagine them more like a lounge you would go to, to meet people, have a cigar and get slightly wasted.
Not a regular seat you book and spend the entire flight in.
Come on man, that's not how you say buffet. Quit trolling already
Boofet
Phoebe Buffet
The Boofet residence, the lady of the house speaking...
Everyone knows it's pronounced "boofette"
Or guac
Honestly the sandwiches at Geoff’s are good enough to fly there for them. I went to a summer program at Brown in high school and just going there a few times makes me wish I went to Brown for college
American Airlines: "welcome sir"
The guy: "I'm literally here every single day bruh"
The second attempt at the unlimited pass failed because it's $5 Mil for unlimited travel... in American AIrlines.
TheBoringAddress exactly. If they have that kind of money and could fly first class on any airline, why would they choose American? 😂
they set it for profit... but who fool will paid that? they had to take shitty american airline...
It would’ve been more profitable for Emirates or delta
American was a really good airline in the early 2000s. Their downfall started from 2008, and they never recovered until they were acquired
@@pilerks1 THEY are still shit.
“aircraft would not function without fuel”
*_You don’t say?_*
*cough* glider *cough* sailplane *cough*
You don't get sarcasm do you
EvErY 60 SeCoNdS a MiNuTe pAsSes in AfRiCa
Given how amazing this deal was, it's shocking that so few people actually bought the unlimited ticket.
Benedict Cumberbatch, no human would have
Benedict Cumberbatch: HOLD MY BEER
Anyone else still laughing at “KFC: _Eat Your Fingers Off”_
_you again._
It’s me again
@@EMOTIONOGRAPHY It's them again.
@@MrV902 sure is
Me
Please don’t say “buffet" ever again.
BOOFAY
that's how it's pronounced
One of those weirdos that pronounces the 'h' in 'herb' too eh?
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I’ve seen this story a few times and I always think would 28 people really put a strain on the company out of the 1000s of people on these flights? They say they costed them millions but I don’t think most flights are fully booked and if u take into consideration lost ticket sales from these 28 people they may have taken flights with other companies. Plus if u need a loan in hard times for ur business to stay afloat it’s gonna cost u
Gd points they didn't loss that much money .... If they had vacant seats most of the time they had already incurred expenses and they already got 250 k in advance or 400k. And it was only 28 people 😊
The incel first class vs the Chad sleeping all the way with headphones in
What
@@MrInternFTL the incel paying to make the flight enjoyable vs the Chad cutting off all of your senses and sleeping the entire journey so you don't even know what's happening
What
What
Rohstein: boy, i could probably go for a croissant right now
American airlines: Oh no, no no no
Rothstein: flies way too often, costing American Airlines millions
AA: does nothing
Rothstein: cleverly gives free upgrades to first class just to be nice for people already on the plane, technically costing AA nothing
AA: wait, that’s illegal
...breach of contract. Fake name. Sounds like fraud to me.
@@watchfalcon122 except it couldn't be proven and no part of contract was actually breeched it was against the spirit of the contract which is irrelevant as no written clause of the contract could be adequately proven to have been breached .... hence AA paying a decent sum out of court. If it had gone to court and AA had lost( and they would have) pay out would have been likely the average value of flights based on the historical average value + inflation yearly for the rest of his life + compensation (character defamation- alleged fraud against a investment Banker = not good. mental anguish due to inability to travel etc keep in mind it's of no legal relevance why he was traveling, it's neither here nor their on the baloney sandwich story, could've been business lunches family meetings etc he wouldn't really have to prove much either immediate legal fees on top of that ...... would have been very expensive for AA. it's simply a case of a large corporate entity offering out of desperation at it's early stages,an investment opportunity be it extremely risky one with a possibly lucrative return yeild. And then not wanting to pay out fully on the return ,which the value of in the overall scheme of things to AA is pocket change.... no-one invests only to get back what they put in. this was purely spiteful corporate greed. If AA had wanted to limit the return value, they should have had the foresight to include an annual fair use clause, which would have made the offer much less attractive. I personally feel AA,s actions were purely dishonest and shame on them
They WANTED to revoke his pass because he made them lose a lot of money. They were looking for a mistake on his part.
Not sure I understand how putting a fake name on the companion pass enabled him to help multiple people anyway. If the pass was for a specific, named individual then how could he use it for random people who were presumably required to show IDs? If it wasn't tied to use by the person named on the card, then surely it wouldn't matter what name was on it; indeed, if it was valid for anyone the owner should choose, why would it need to have a name on it at all? Am I missing something here?
@@davidf6326 I would assume in many cases you need to book in advance, so he would book 2 seats one under his name and another under a false name even when traveling alone. Then he would offer the seat to people who would presumably have an existing coach ticket or a missed flight or whatever.
Ironically, this channel’s videos are twice as interesting as Wendover.
The worst thing about this story, is that American Airlines themselves were the ones that suggested he book tickets for "bag rothstein" when they sold him the companion pass add-on.
I've heard American say it was a bad idea but I don't understand why, even if these people take a flight every day those flights were gonna happen regardless. The only times they'd lose money is when first class was full.
that's a good point. They only lose real money on completely full first class flights. Though the complimentary food costs a bit.
But even then first class is gonna be full most likely at departure whether it be from paying customers, complimentary upgrades, or people cashing in miles for first class. Considering cashing in miles is basically a free ticket I don't see why it's such a bad idea.
@@cokecansandwinglets5783 paying customers bring in monetary value. miles upgrade brings in potential money (as they will not have them for future flights.) complimentary upgrades brings in potential value as well (from happy but paying customers.) Meanwhile the only thing you get from a lifetime flier is extra luggage and weight that's just going to cost more and more fuel each time they fly. It's even worse when they bring a companion each time.
You cant know that if the airline had to cover taxes you are way off. If you ever booked even a business class with award miles you would know that.
I'm going to say "Eat your fingers off" every time I have fried chicken from now on.
That's not exactly true translation though. 吮指原味鸡means sucking thumb original chicken.
@@Mike34543 thanks for the translation. It's now getting worse.
@@Mike34543 wrong this CZcamsr does much research I'm sure he knows exactly what it was that happened baring in mind all information is readily available on the internet
Mark Cuban gifted his pass to a relative and now flies in a private jet. Takes off when he wants at any time.
In today’s world, driving to the airport, going through security, waiting to board, landing then paying for an Uber, driving to a deli to order a sandwich, then doing everything in reverse just seems like you want a story to tell someone that you did once. Logistically, I couldn’t see myself doing this regularly.
If it costs $2305 to fly first class to Hawaii and it cost me $1.2 million for the pass, I’d have to fly there every week for 10 years to break even.
“...some start a semi-satirical educational CZcams channel.” Lmao
Imagine being a regular to an airport XD
Eagle Eye 2113 the cbp agent must be like “ah, just come here”
Every businessman or popstar
My dad flies at least once a week with delta tho
Mood
"i'll have the usual"
No one:
Half as interesting: *Boofay*
It's like how Angry Joe says Saanyi when pronouncing Sony.
Wait, how is it actually pronounced?
@@SacredDaturana buh-fay.
As in Phoebe?
@@SacredDaturana both are correct.
This somewhat overstates the cost of these passes to American. The basic cost to the airline is the price of tickets for flights the pass holder •would• have taken anyhow, even if he had not held a prepaid pass, and for which he would have bought tickets ad hoc, as he needed to travel (wherever).
As for all the •extra• flying the pass holder does, those are flights the airline had scheduled anyhow, so it’s not like American is having to charter a flight for him alone. The cost to the airline turns, instead, on the question of whether first class was booked full on a particular flight: did seating the pass holder mean the airline couldn’t put a (newly) paying passenger in a seat on that flight? Sometimes yes, of course. But first class isn’t always booked full.
So, if a pass holder’s presence on a flight isn’t keeping another passenger off the plane, and this is not a flight the holder would have taken without the pass, then the marginal cost to airline is much less than the price of a first class ticket. The added weight of that passenger and his baggage requires the plane to use a little more fuel. He eats some food and drinks some wine. But those costs alone are inconsequential for an airline the size of American.
Bear in mind, too, that the money the holders paid up front for the lifetime pass isn’t the airline’s complete compensation for the service (the flights) it will render. It may take decades for a holder to go on enough flights to recover the face-value cost of the pass. But the airline has all that money as soon as the purchase is made. That means the airline gets the use of that money for a long time before the holder’s demand for flights will approach the value of what he paid. If the airline has been smart in how it used that money, and invested it, it will have increased the value it realized from that cash infusion well beyond the cost of the services it ultimately rendered to the holder.
Longtime subscriber. Thanks :) I read about that in passing. Thanks for the detailed research/ inside scoop 👍🥰