Why Qatar Airways Flies An Almost-Empty Flight to Adelaide

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  • @bm7500
    @bm7500 Před 7 měsíci +3073

    My Mum booked this flight all the way through to Adelaide, knowing full well there was a 5+ hour layover in Melbourne Airport. You can't leave the terminal and there were no major shops open. There was a total of 24 people who caught the MEL to ADL leg of the flight. She said the experience of having a 777-300ER virtually to yourself was very surreal and made the layover worth it.

    • @ianfox6106
      @ianfox6106 Před 7 měsíci +100

      My wife and her sister did the flight the other way, going to Doha the layover in Melbourne isn't that long

    • @ajaybhatia1998
      @ajaybhatia1998 Před 7 měsíci +57

      Was the extra cost also worth it? Seems to be 30-35% higher

    • @KurtRichterCISSP
      @KurtRichterCISSP Před 7 měsíci +33

      Do they shoot you if you try to leave?

    • @ianfox6106
      @ianfox6106 Před 7 měsíci +97

      No and no. The normal price might be 30 to 35% higher but there are a lot of specials. And if you try and leave they won't shoot you but will not let you back onto the flight. And that might mean flying back to Adelaide on Jetstar, an low cost airline set up by Qantas just to make Qantas the parent look good. Jetstar would make 5 hours in Melbourne terminal appealing.

    • @davidthegreen
      @davidthegreen Před 7 měsíci +57

      It's worth the extra cost and 5+ hour layover just to have a 777 to yourself for a 50 minute flight?

  • @TheNovaChronicles
    @TheNovaChronicles Před 7 měsíci +3082

    The first time an airline actually encourages hidden city ticketing rather than trying to sue people for it 😂

    • @FalconX88
      @FalconX88 Před 7 měsíci

      Except they don't. they simply sell tickets to Melbourne. Quite common to allow people to book only one leg of a flight with a layover. Check out EVA62 (VIE-BKK-TPE) or SQ 25 (JFK- FRA- SIN)

    • @jplayzow
      @jplayzow Před 7 měsíci +37

      Probably because they can't resell the seats

    • @roccosemler228
      @roccosemler228 Před 7 měsíci +102

      It's not hidden city ticketing though, Qatar is selling tickets for Melbourne, not Adelaide. For passengers going to Melbourne this flight is no different from the normal direct one.

    • @jplayzow
      @jplayzow Před 7 měsíci +47

      @@roccosemler228 It is /hidden/ from australia in plain sight

    • @browneyes142a
      @browneyes142a Před 7 měsíci +71

      ​@@roccosemler228officially, they are selling tickets to Adelaide.

  • @keaton_m
    @keaton_m Před 7 měsíci +1045

    Mad respect for being the first north American CZcamsr to pronounce every Australian city mentioned correctly

    • @stereowall
      @stereowall Před 7 měsíci +49

      this is BS, Melbourne is def not pronounced like that

    • @keaton_m
      @keaton_m Před 7 měsíci +63

      ​@@stereowallI mean, it's not exactly pronounced like that, but that can mostly be attributed to his accent

    • @biosparkles9442
      @biosparkles9442 Před 7 měsíci +44

      @@stereowall I prefer Americans pronounce it the way they do in this video, it sounds forced and weird if they say Mel-bin

    • @TrebleSketch
      @TrebleSketch Před 7 měsíci +26

      Yeah, especially Adelaide. It's rare enough to have someone make a video mentioning Adelaide and even rarer for it to be the FOCUS of the video and spoken that many times xD

    • @Sagittarius-A-Star
      @Sagittarius-A-Star Před 7 měsíci +6

      If they can't even pronounce the names of the cities of an English speaking country correctly I'm not surprised any more that they not even remotely can pronounce anything non-English 😅

  • @Docwilson91
    @Docwilson91 Před 7 měsíci +2131

    Imagine if we could get a bunch people just to book this flight for one day

    • @Joe-Nuts
      @Joe-Nuts Před 7 měsíci +112

      Bro didn’t watch the video

    • @TojiFushigoroWasTaken
      @TojiFushigoroWasTaken Před 7 měsíci +166

      ​@@Joe-Nutshe did....he hypothesized what would happen if people booked flights to from qatar to adelaide via melbourne even though its expensive. U high bu?

    • @Prounounced
      @Prounounced Před 7 měsíci +59

      @@TojiFushigoroWasTakenyeah but what’s the point of the hypothesis?
      It’s a flight that’s going to happen either way. The result is obvious: people will get to Adelaide from Doha lol.

    • @dominick6131
      @dominick6131 Před 7 měsíci +57

      ​@@Prounouncedit would surprise the crew.

    • @thegamingteen44mc5
      @thegamingteen44mc5 Před 7 měsíci +11

      I am in Melbourne and have cousins near Adelaide so why not

  • @magical_catgirl
    @magical_catgirl Před 7 měsíci +1155

    Qatar has unlimited flight rights to any Australian international airport, except the 4 major ports where they can currently only fly 28 times per week (this was expanded from 21 in early 2022).
    They are allowed to fly another 7 times to the limited ports, provided that flight is to or via a smaller port. This is what they are using for the DOH-MEL-ADL flight.
    Prior to the pandemic, they used that allowance to fly to Canberra via Sydney. They were all set to resume that route when Australia reopened the borders, then kept delaying it before changing to the current route.

    • @theosteven3362
      @theosteven3362 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Yeah, how is your comment different from the video. Redundant info sht.

    • @WhyT74
      @WhyT74 Před 7 měsíci +116

      I learned more from your comment than the entire video. Thank you.

    • @dhruvtotre5975
      @dhruvtotre5975 Před 7 měsíci +31

      ​@@WhyT74lol, the video didn't specify the reason for the flight clearly

    • @joermnyc
      @joermnyc Před 7 měsíci +8

      Yes, I was trying to remember who had that weird little add-on flight to Canberra (Paul Lucas flew on it.)

    • @jacktattersall9457
      @jacktattersall9457 Před 7 měsíci +12

      I was surprised they would get away with that loophole. Like QR988 is still taking up precious international landing slots at MEL (at least they seem precious if Australia is so tight with them). I wonder if Australia will change the agreement to prevent this extra flight to Melbourne getting a free pass because it flies empty to Adelaide hours later.

  • @Cooldude-ko7ps
    @Cooldude-ko7ps Před 7 měsíci +902

    Finally a Australian city other than Sydney, Melbourne or Canberra is mentioned

    • @dreadhead5719
      @dreadhead5719 Před 7 měsíci +82

      sometimes perth

    • @jackgibsxxx0750
      @jackgibsxxx0750 Před 7 měsíci +34

      Only in conjunction with Melbourne

    • @devonalbatross
      @devonalbatross Před 7 měsíci +19

      Ah, of course! Like the city of... ... um. ... ... The uh... ... Aw crap.

    • @Croz89
      @Croz89 Před 7 měsíci +38

      No love for Brisbane!

    • @jakenh8264
      @jakenh8264 Před 7 měsíci +65

      ADELAIDE MENTIONED 💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯

  • @Rubrickety
    @Rubrickety Před 7 měsíci +343

    Wouldn't it be easier for Qatar to just extend the stroke on the "r", shift it to the left a couple places, then slap an "s" at the end, thus turning itself into a totally legit Qantas flight?

    • @Ruddpocalypse
      @Ruddpocalypse Před 7 měsíci +40

      Qatas

    • @alexj1650
      @alexj1650 Před 7 měsíci +2

      where n

    • @sanuthweerasinghe7825
      @sanuthweerasinghe7825 Před 7 měsíci +17

      @@alexj1650add a stroke to the r then shift it to the left a couple places. learn to read dawg.

    • @karmatraining
      @karmatraining Před 7 měsíci +14

      If they can avoid highly traumatising invasive cavity searches of dozens of women on their flights for truly stupid reasons then I think you're onto a winner mate

    • @KuK137
      @KuK137 Před 7 měsíci +2

      @@karmatraining Still less racist and arbitrary, drunken with power user of fascist police brutality than australian thugs (google raptor squads)...

  • @danielstrandby3678
    @danielstrandby3678 Před 7 měsíci +120

    Huge shoutout to Ben for making a meme that made me laugh more than any other meme in recent years 2:08

  • @jbird4478
    @jbird4478 Před 7 měsíci +127

    They found a loophole big enough for airplanes to fly through.

  • @was1768
    @was1768 Před 7 měsíci +625

    I love it when politicians says that climate change is due to the individual people when each of these flights have a higher impact on the planet than an entire family household in a year...

    • @hughquigley5337
      @hughquigley5337 Před 7 měsíci +27

      True and very important

    • @yasminbarry7941
      @yasminbarry7941 Před 7 měsíci +6

      Hence my comment above: So much pollution generated for money 😡

    • @cuppacoffee1572
      @cuppacoffee1572 Před 7 měsíci +18

      Enjoy your dissolving paper straw

    • @yasminbarry7941
      @yasminbarry7941 Před 7 měsíci

      @@teamgeist3328 😆 Thanks anyway.

    • @SgtSupaman
      @SgtSupaman Před 7 měsíci

      @@teamgeist3328 , with an estimated 100,000 flights every day worldwide, it probably doesn't take long for them to surpass households regarding output.

  • @Mat-xe8pt
    @Mat-xe8pt Před 7 měsíci +119

    I am from Adelaide, I remember seeing this plane while waiting to depart a direct flight to Kuala Lumpur. the malaysia airlines air hostess explained it to me qatars loopholes. She called them very cheeky.

    • @daffers2345
      @daffers2345 Před 2 měsíci

      Go Crows! 😊

    • @Mat-xe8pt
      @Mat-xe8pt Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@daffers2345 boo 👎 Go the Power!!

  • @Darcy_prince
    @Darcy_prince Před 7 měsíci +103

    I live in Adelaide, and Recently flew on this flight (Both Ways) to get to Europe. For my family, this was actually the cheapest option, which was weird, and annoying for us, but it was certainly a very cool experience to be on such a quiet 777, with it being full a few hours before. The layover is not fun at all though. 🤣

    • @leorione
      @leorione Před 4 měsíci

      It's unfortunate because Qantas wants to keep its monopoly to charge people way more.

  • @pollyjackson-dzacchaeus1342
    @pollyjackson-dzacchaeus1342 Před 7 měsíci +115

    railways have a similar thing they run trains on less used lines and unused stations as its cheaper to do this incase the line becomes like there's a football event or something than having to reopen the line from scratch

    • @Croz89
      @Croz89 Před 7 měsíci +19

      Are you talking about parliamentary trains? If so it's not quite like that, many operators would be happy to stop these routes for good. The real reason is because it's so expensive to actually close the route, operators have to go through consultations and lots of paperwork, so it's cheaper to run a minimum service, which they are required to by law.

    • @pollyjackson-dzacchaeus1342
      @pollyjackson-dzacchaeus1342 Před 7 měsíci +4

      @@Croz89 yeah i think its something like that plus the added bonus of a faster reopening time if needed

  • @thegamingteen44mc5
    @thegamingteen44mc5 Před 7 měsíci +155

    As a melbournian i think the arrows at 4:40 make a fair bit of sense, i have actually been to most of the spots being pointed, but the most famous thing the city has is literally north of the bridge you pointed to

    • @hahaboy211
      @hahaboy211 Před 7 měsíci +21

      Isn't it a flat white?

    • @tacet3045
      @tacet3045 Před 7 měsíci +59

      @@hahaboy211 It's Melbourne. It's a deconstructed flat white served in lab equipment while the barista tells you why the graffiti outside is amazing.
      Also it's raining.

    • @BlackGateofMordor
      @BlackGateofMordor Před 7 měsíci +21

      ​@@tacet3045Don't worry, it'll be hot and sunny in three minutes. Then a cold breeze in another ten.

    • @tacet3045
      @tacet3045 Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@BlackGateofMordor True.

    • @soundscape26
      @soundscape26 Před 7 měsíci +2

      As an F1 fan my reference can only be Albert Park.

  • @grogery1570
    @grogery1570 Před 7 měsíci +132

    This goes some way to explaining why Adelaide airport always seems to have flights coming in and out but the terminal never seems to be over worked.

    • @cameront6330
      @cameront6330 Před 7 měsíci +4

      Except, it doesn't. This is one flight per day.

    • @adamriach6554
      @adamriach6554 Před 7 měsíci +2

      It will likely have almost 9 million passengers through it this financial year. I doubt one B737 load of people a week on a flight to Melbourne, would make much of an impact.

  • @GreenJelly_64
    @GreenJelly_64 Před 7 měsíci +172

    Being from Adelaide myself, hearing that most people “don’t even know what Adelaide is” kinda hurts. We’re cool too I swear 💔

    • @chatthew
      @chatthew Před 6 měsíci +3

      Don't worry, he doesn't pronounce Qatar correctly either

    • @shramanadasdutta3006
      @shramanadasdutta3006 Před 6 měsíci +11

      Dont worry mate. Most of India knows about Adelaide and/or South Australia now. Thats where that bad man with a mustache Travis Head is from. 😢 😡 😭

    • @LachieJohnson
      @LachieJohnson Před 5 měsíci +2

      That’s sad for you but apparently Sam cant figure out what my city is known for after googling it

    • @Bobbo69
      @Bobbo69 Před 5 měsíci

      I only know about it from Tim from the unmade podcast

    • @ebrown210
      @ebrown210 Před 5 měsíci +3

      Well I’d like you to know then that my favourite band has a song named Adelaide and it’s the reason I moved to Australia. ❤️

  • @EpicgamerwinXD6669
    @EpicgamerwinXD6669 Před 7 měsíci +66

    Was anyone else waiting for inevitable call back to the episode on the corrupt New Jersey flight?

    • @soundscape26
      @soundscape26 Před 7 měsíci

      Not that one but I remember an old video about Heathrow where he talked about the ghost routes.

  • @agoatmannameddesire8856
    @agoatmannameddesire8856 Před 7 měsíci +139

    "An airline is only worth as much as the routes it can fly"
    I thought someone told us that airlines were only worth as much as their frequent flier customer base!

    • @gorak9000
      @gorak9000 Před 7 měsíci +11

      Their credit cards - remember, they're banks now, that also fly some planes sometimes

    • @jpaugh64
      @jpaugh64 Před 7 měsíci

      😅 No, you're talking about the airline rewards companies, remember? Those things are worth more than the airlines.

    • @andrewjgrimm
      @andrewjgrimm Před 2 měsíci

      Probably that Wendover Productions guy, not the guy who does this channel.

    • @adeejinnz
      @adeejinnz Před měsícem

      Tell that to Bonza!

  • @comicus01
    @comicus01 Před 7 měsíci +156

    Qantas themselves used to fly to JFK in New York via LAX, but had the similar restriction (from the US government) of not being able to sell tickets for the LAX to JFK leg. It only lasted a few years before they dropped it.

    • @tfinkens
      @tfinkens Před 7 měsíci +7

      this is also because AU wouldn't allow direct to melbourne flights from the US and had to have a stop in Sydney... back in the day

    • @cwstead
      @cwstead Před 7 měsíci +5

      there were other reasons why. Prior to the AA-QF JV, QF would route NYC passengers on AA or someone else, and operating their own metal allowed them to collect additional revenue from passengers and cargo that was otherwise being shared. In addition, parking fees at LAX are substantial and their fleet sits at LAX for the day (they actually perform maintenance at LAX but not everyday on every aircraft). If they could generate revenue that offset parking fees, the flight came out ahead. Furthermore, when they rotate smaller aircraft into LAX (like AKL-LAX on an A332 for a while) they have a more efficient aircraft than an 744 or A388 to fly the LAX-JFK-LAX roundtrip.

    • @magical_catgirl
      @magical_catgirl Před 7 měsíci +6

      Qantas operated the LAX-JFK flight for more then "a few years".
      It was sold as SYD-JFK (via LAX). They changed which inbound aircraft was used for the US transcon a few times. 747 from SYD, A330 from AKL, 747 then 787 from BNE after the SYD flight went to A380.

    • @magical_catgirl
      @magical_catgirl Před 7 měsíci +7

      @@tfinkens AU did allow such flights. United stopped in SYD because they didn't have an aircraft that could get to MEL nonstop with the needed payload

    • @NewYorkAviation
      @NewYorkAviation Před 7 měsíci +6

      Incorrect. This flight operated from 1999-2020. I've flown it many times and it actually did quite well for them.

  • @jameschan7893
    @jameschan7893 Před 7 měsíci +9

    As someone who lives in Adelaide I have always wondered this seeing this plane every time I go there

  • @christopherg2347
    @christopherg2347 Před 7 měsíci +52

    If passengers do that, it is called "Skiplagging". You book a long distance flight, when your intention is to only actually use a part of the route. Because it is cheaper, somehow.

    • @wilsonli5642
      @wilsonli5642 Před 7 měsíci +21

      It's cheaper if the ticketed destination is a place that isn't a popular destination.

    • @Nalehw
      @Nalehw Před 7 měsíci +8

      If you compare two flights to the same destination, but one is direct and the other is indirect, the indirect one will sometimes be cheaper. But this makes no sense, right? The indirect one flew further, so their operating costs should be higher! The trick is, your ticket price isn't really based on the operating costs at all. Your price is based on what the market is willing to pay, and people are willing to pay more for direct flights because they're more convenient.
      Similarly, if you compare two flights to different destinations that are the exact same distance and use the exact same plane type, but one of the destinations is more popular, then the more popular one will cost more. Because the ticket price isn't really about the operating cost, it's just about what customers are willing to pay.
      Now, just apply this same phenomenon to long-distance flights, where the final destination is unpopular (and so won't sell for much) but because it's so far away the plane has to stop over in a major hub on the way (which would normally sell for a lot). The airline is selling you the ticket based on the final destination, so they sell it for cheap, even though the plane had to go further.

    • @Default78334
      @Default78334 Před 7 měsíci +2

      ​@@wilsonli5642it's not about popularity, it's about competition at the nominal vs the real destination. Typically the real destination is a fortress hub where one airline holds disproportionate market control, while the nominal destination doesn't.

    • @vbscript2
      @vbscript2 Před měsícem

      I'm going to start calling this flight "hidden-city network planning" now. :)

  • @Merennulli
    @Merennulli Před 7 měsíci +15

    I'm shocked at the lack of Simpsons jokes at the DOH airport.

  • @snowyalice
    @snowyalice Před 7 měsíci +53

    There is a similar one which goes to Sydney then Canberra. My parents have seriously considered using it as it’s so much more convenient than driving to Sydney.

    • @kurthalbauer7676
      @kurthalbauer7676 Před 7 měsíci +8

      *there was a similar one. It's gone now...

    • @benjaminfranklin329
      @benjaminfranklin329 Před 7 měsíci +6

      Yes flying Sydney to Canberra is definitely convenient 😂. But seriously the coaches are basically as fast because you don't have the boarding/waiting times, and cheaper.

    • @biosparkles9442
      @biosparkles9442 Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@benjaminfranklin329 the train is also a pretty pleasant trip if the time lines up

    • @frodo322
      @frodo322 Před 2 měsíci

      @@biosparkles9442it’s a four hour ride inside a train from the 1970s. I’d rather take the bus which ironically takes less time.

    • @biosparkles9442
      @biosparkles9442 Před 2 měsíci

      @@frodo322 I get travel sick on buses, I prefer the train

  • @MomoZeEvil
    @MomoZeEvil Před 7 měsíci +29

    It’s so cool seeing a video about a flight I coordinate often! Waking up at 2am to turnaround a flight with only 10-15 pax is definitely interesting though but I love doing this flight because the crew give me free sandwiches!! 😂😂

  • @sheridanbartlett4182
    @sheridanbartlett4182 Před 7 měsíci +8

    Adelaidean here who literally had a conversation two days ago about this exact thing, as we watched a Qatar plane take off from ADL going to MEL. Thanks for the interesting (and quite timely) video

  • @johnhamilton6003
    @johnhamilton6003 Před 7 měsíci +18

    Priot to COVID, Qatar did the same thing except flew to Canberra, Australia via Sydney. Plus the layover time in Sydney was only 2 hours or so and there were no other flights direct to Canberra from overseas (except NZ) so the Sydney-Canberra leg actually got a few dozen passengers instead of single digit

  • @corndog-1
    @corndog-1 Před 7 měsíci +54

    As a Melbourne resident I can confirm there is absolutely nothing to do in our international airport terminal

    • @bugsygoo
      @bugsygoo Před 7 měsíci +14

      But still more to do there than in Adelaide. 🤣

    • @AustralianConsultancy
      @AustralianConsultancy Před 7 měsíci +1

      We've got a shitload of lounges. Being P1 and Swiss HON Circle you can use any *A or OWE lounge.

    • @drift7rs
      @drift7rs Před 7 měsíci

      yeah, it is.. quite boring here.

    • @karmatraining
      @karmatraining Před 7 měsíci

      If you like to eat, it's not bad. But that will only occupy you for an hour or two, tops.

  • @thermitebanana
    @thermitebanana Před 7 měsíci +45

    Damn - that video perfectly captured the Australia-Qatar-Qantas dynamic.
    Sweet sponsor too

    • @szhou2513
      @szhou2513 Před 7 měsíci

      Yeah good on HAI for supporting local Aussie business.

  • @quasinfinity
    @quasinfinity Před 7 měsíci +9

    The waste makes me sad. Inefficient bureaucracy sucks, but this exceeds in anti-efficiency

  • @ianfox6106
    @ianfox6106 Před 7 měsíci +8

    My wife actually did take this flight from Adelaide to Doha, though going to Doha the stop over in Melbourne wasn't that long and I think she got a good price on the flight

  • @_baert
    @_baert Před 7 měsíci +9

    my guess before watching is to keep the slot available for future possible usage.

  • @itsorcacraft9037
    @itsorcacraft9037 Před 7 měsíci +88

    You must have your PhD in airline business and science by now

    • @erkinalp
      @erkinalp Před 7 měsíci +3

      Or, even further, DSc (higher doctorate)

    • @GrumpyIan
      @GrumpyIan Před 7 měsíci +3

      And don't forget bricks

    • @andrewjgrimm
      @andrewjgrimm Před 7 měsíci

      They ought to spin off a channel about flights.

  • @scottbrick9918
    @scottbrick9918 Před 7 měsíci +10

    My step family when they went to Australia for holiday got this flight lol

  • @cypher686
    @cypher686 Před 7 měsíci +40

    So I actually fly this route quite regularly. It’s quite nice having a plane to myself

  • @jimivel604
    @jimivel604 Před 7 měsíci +13

    I hope those single digit passengers on that 777 on this daily 1 hour flight are using paper straws, because every little bit helps 😂

  • @22OS89
    @22OS89 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Thanks for doing a video about Adelaide!

  • @AgentAileron
    @AgentAileron Před 7 měsíci +11

    I took this flight to get home from South Africa back to Melbourne via Qatar!
    Searching up my flight code on the airline page during my layover in Qatar it always showed two entries: one to MEL, and one to Adelaide, and in that timeless, sleepless mirror dimension that is long international layovers, I was really paranoid I'd end up in Adelaide accidentally 😅
    It worked out fine out course, and everyone without exception did indeed disembark at MEL.
    Did not make sense to me why the flight continued on to Adelaide at all to me then. Now with the context of this vid, what does not make sense to me at all is why the Aussie government prefers letting Qatar airways do this legal loophole stuff over, y'know, /not/ burning up a buncha airliner fuel pointlessly l? :/

  • @adamriach6554
    @adamriach6554 Před 7 měsíci +3

    @halfasinteresting this flight was originally planned to be a Canberra destined flight. However a week before flights started, it was switched to Adelaide as I guess Canberra didn't have enough passengers. People I have spoken to who have used it, say there is 20-30 passengers on board. I guess it helps with over spill from the Direct Adelaide flight, which has been upgraded from an A350 to a B777 this week.

  • @jackgibsxxx0750
    @jackgibsxxx0750 Před 7 měsíci +20

    That NJPA chairman is never going to live that down. 😂😂😂😂😂

    • @dx-ek4vr
      @dx-ek4vr Před 7 měsíci +3

      In his defense though, how else was he supposed to get home faster so he could spend more of his entire vacation doing nothing but staring at horses?

    • @jaysmith1408
      @jaysmith1408 Před 7 měsíci

      @@dx-ek4vroh, I don’t know, his plane?

    • @vbscript2
      @vbscript2 Před měsícem

      Nor should he.

  • @theovineydibbydoda3150
    @theovineydibbydoda3150 Před 7 měsíci +6

    Its worth noting here this is NOT skiplagging. Skiplagging is booking a route with multiple flights but stopping at a transit airport. This is just one flight number, and the passengers are able to book it to either Melbourne or Adelaide. If it was skiplagging then the passengers disembarking at Melbourne would not be able to collect their baggage.

    • @user-jk2zm7uq5s
      @user-jk2zm7uq5s Před 7 měsíci

      If a passenger does it it's skiplagging. If an airline does it it's not. ("Do as I say, not as I do")

  • @AlonsoRules
    @AlonsoRules Před 7 měsíci +3

    Another thing about this flight is that the connection between Melbourne and Adelaide inbound is something like 7 hours and you cannot leave the airport and the terminal is closed. Even Business Class passengers cannot use the lounges.

  • @kineticdeath
    @kineticdeath Před 7 měsíci +11

    5:17 the Adelaide to Melbourne return leg is flown by Qatar's sister airline Rataq

  • @user-ft2os3ho2q
    @user-ft2os3ho2q Před 7 měsíci +5

    Mate I took this flight last year in November ( probably when they came up with this route) not knowing about the layover, i remember staying at Melbourne airport which was almost empty, freezing and with 1 shop open. Safe to say it was a terrible experience.

  • @isitlunchtimeyettttt
    @isitlunchtimeyettttt Před 6 měsíci +4

    i live in Adelaide. i remember a while ago me and my father headed down to the runway to watch the planes land and take of (we love planes) and then we saw this Qatar airways plane land and we were so confused why a 777 was landing in a tiny city like Adelaide

  • @plane_nerd
    @plane_nerd Před 7 měsíci +4

    Wow, HIA made a video on the same topic I did a couple months ago, that's pretty amazing!

  • @HugoWiffen
    @HugoWiffen Před 7 měsíci +6

    Our transport minister and Qantas are currently in a lot of trouble over this. Qantas provides access to an exclusive lounge to all members of parliament which many consider a bribe/form of coercion.

  • @stepstr
    @stepstr Před 7 měsíci

    Thanks Ben, much appreciated!

  • @johgwynn17
    @johgwynn17 Před 4 měsíci

    I wondered about this flight. Few flights fly above my city, but this Doha - Adelaide one is fairly common. Makes a lot more sense now!

  • @Nobi36
    @Nobi36 Před 7 měsíci +5

    Emirates Cebu to Angeles City is also a domestic flight in the Philippines

  • @stvdagger8074
    @stvdagger8074 Před 7 měsíci +6

    Actually it is not more expensive to fly through Melbourne. I just looked up Doha to Adelaide flights on December 13th on expedia and the flight through Melbourne is $4.00 cheaper $3,622 vs. $3,626. So you might get some people on the flight who consider $4to be worth 9 hours of time (or who just miss the duration of the flight and the stop-over listed - of course those are also the kind of people going to Sydney Australia who book a flight to YQY and are surprised to find themselves in Sydney, Nova Scotia ).

    • @biosparkles9442
      @biosparkles9442 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Does that really happen? People think they're going to Australia but end up in CYQY? Gosh

  • @Firedogies
    @Firedogies Před 5 měsíci +2

    A lot of cargo does go on this flight as it’s coming from Europe. Most of the cargo going to the Air Force base in Adelaide comes on this flight.

  • @GerardiAviation
    @GerardiAviation Před 3 měsíci

    Love your aviation videos ✈️

  • @alecjahn
    @alecjahn Před 7 měsíci +6

    They should hand out a cool sticker if you make it to the end.

  • @fredrikkirderf2907
    @fredrikkirderf2907 Před 7 měsíci +4

    You should do a Jetlag season going on as many ghost flights as possible

  • @frodo322
    @frodo322 Před 2 měsíci

    They used to do this with Canberra too, it was a Canberra Doha flight but it actually stopped over in Sydney which is where the majority of the passengers would get on. It stopped after the pandemic because Canberra is not a hot destination.

  • @antonh1709
    @antonh1709 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Yes, I flew this route as part of my trip from Singapore to Melbourne. Since I like freebies and traveling on miles, I found the availability Singapore - Doha - Melbourne - Adelaide. The booking systems did not show availability on the leg Doha - Melbourne, but did so on the flight Doha - Melbourne - Adelaide. Hence I booked a seat on this flight to Adelaide but got off in Melbourne.

    • @williamrech8062
      @williamrech8062 Před 6 měsíci

      Did you have checked baggage or just hand luggage? No questions asked at immigration in Melbourne?

    • @antonh1709
      @antonh1709 Před 6 měsíci

      @@williamrech8062 I did not check luggage - checked baggage could have traveled only to Adelaide. So if you intend to pull such trick - don't check bags. As for immigration - no issues, they don't care. I am Canadian so I used automated customs clearance lanes and don't remember talking to any official even. All pax clear customs in Melbourne anyway.
      In addition - upon exit the aircraft there was a lady asking disembarking people as to who travels onwards to Adelaide and who doesn't.

  • @stephaniet9875
    @stephaniet9875 Před 7 měsíci +31

    Im glad you mentioned the forced illegal strip search of those women, we are not happy with a particular airline over here.

    • @carlosquinto1383
      @carlosquinto1383 Před 7 měsíci

      That was forgotten about and only dug out as an excuse a few weeks into the questioning on the favoritism. If that was the real reason they would have said it from the start, it was so telling that that excuse was thought up after a while by some political spin doctor.
      Sure that was bad a few years ago but that wasn't the real reason for restricting competition with Qantas come on.

    • @stephaniet9875
      @stephaniet9875 Před 7 měsíci

      ​@@carlosquinto1383i only first read about it a few weeks ago

  • @kikeb1534
    @kikeb1534 Před 7 měsíci +3

    I fly from doha to sydney and then to canberra, i guess that was the same idea.
    In this case 20 people where on a big A380 it was amaizing how fast take off.

  • @karlpark8575
    @karlpark8575 Před 7 měsíci +1

    This happens all the time. Many flights from Asia used to stop at Vancouver then onto Toronto in Canada. Because of restrictions on selling Vancouver to Toronto route to the domestic customers, it stopped doing that. Which is shame.

  • @sgbuses
    @sgbuses Před 7 měsíci +2

    When can they offer this to Canberra as well?

  • @CigaretteSmokingGuy
    @CigaretteSmokingGuy Před 7 měsíci +11

    Awkward note: Sam doesn't know what Melbourne is known for...sponsor is a Melbourne based company!

  • @ErnestJay88
    @ErnestJay88 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Just like many flight from "London (Heathrow) - Edinburgh" which is empty, but Airline keep operating it so they didn't lose Heathrow landing slots which is more expensive to get than operate an empty flight.

  • @mjblack2020
    @mjblack2020 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I am very glad Ben's consent meme made it into the video, it made the video vastly more enjoyable to me! Thanks Ben.

  • @wisdomy736
    @wisdomy736 Před 7 měsíci +6

    No way someone actually mentioned Adelaide and they’re not Aussie

    • @kaan-kaant
      @kaan-kaant Před 7 měsíci +6

      It's already surprising enough if Adelaide gets mentioned by Aussies

  • @lauscho
    @lauscho Před 7 měsíci +6

    "This is going to be a long four-and-a-half minutes"
    Things you can say to your audience in an edutainment video that you can't say to your intimate partner!

  • @apache1234657
    @apache1234657 Před 7 měsíci +1

    2:32 that was surprisingly spicey

  • @nekajuii
    @nekajuii Před 7 měsíci

    2:08 lmao it's the first time this channel uses a good meme. very nice Sam from Wendover Productions.

  • @jasminepumpkin8091
    @jasminepumpkin8091 Před 7 měsíci +3

    Not entirely sure if I'm awake or dreaming still while I get up at a stupid time to get a Qantas flight from Melbourne to Adelaide. Yes I'm regretting booking a Qantas flight

  • @Goatcha_M
    @Goatcha_M Před 7 měsíci +13

    They could fly to Avalon International Airport.
    Its only 20 minutes further from Melbourne than Tullamarine but at the same time is very much a regional airport.

    • @magical_catgirl
      @magical_catgirl Před 7 měsíci +2

      Yes, they could. Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane all have nearby international airports which are not capped which they could fly to.

    • @yangliu128
      @yangliu128 Před 7 měsíci +11

      No, I don’t think Qatar wants to associate themselves with Jetstar, Bonza and AirAsia yet

    • @johnhamilton6003
      @johnhamilton6003 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Does Avalon take international flights? I thought it was domestic only

    • @Goatcha_M
      @Goatcha_M Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@johnhamilton6003They opened the international terminal in December 2018 with Air Asia X flights to Kuala Lumpur twice a day. They'd added other companies and were about to open Vietnam flights when Covid hit and shut everything down.
      At present the International terminal is sitting empty afaik until either Air Asia comes back or some other company wants to take advantage of not having to deal with Tulla.
      Avalon's runway is big enough for A-380s, but the lounges can only really hold one flight at a time.
      I assume its cheaper for the airlines than Tulla, but I really don't know.
      I hope it re-opens international again. I used to work there and I miss it.

    • @magical_catgirl
      @magical_catgirl Před 7 měsíci +4

      @@johnhamilton6003 Avalon is able to take international flights. Thus far it has only been used by low cost carriers from SE Asia

  • @christopherchapman9505
    @christopherchapman9505 Před 7 měsíci

    Lol awesomely interesting video.. thanks.
    Your voice sounds like a channel I used to watch
    “Coby eXplanes”

  • @NBAreelsZz
    @NBAreelsZz Před 4 měsíci

    I flew from Doha in Qatar to Melbourne about a month ago, on flight QR988, and there was only like 2 families out of the 100 or so people on the plane who were going to Adelaide from there.

  • @notmenotme614
    @notmenotme614 Před 7 měsíci +5

    Basically Qatar airways couldn’t get permission for another flight to Melbourne. So Qatar airways fly to “Adelaide” 😉 it just happens to be via Melbourne first.

  • @bucket6386
    @bucket6386 Před 7 měsíci +3

    i think this is the first foreinger ever to pronounce Perth, Adelaide, Melbourne, Sydney and brisbane correctly, good job man, idc about the video you earned a sub just for that

  • @gnittegdellort
    @gnittegdellort Před 7 měsíci +2

    Melbourne has the F1, Australian Open, MotoGP down the road, the Boing Day test, Melbourne Cup, known as the sporting capital of the world, and voted most livable city a bunch of times... it's fucking great here

  • @rickybobbyjr1581
    @rickybobbyjr1581 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Was just in Adelaide, beautiful city.

  • @abhishekrao1525
    @abhishekrao1525 Před 7 měsíci +3

    And here I am re-using straws and turning the heat down in the winter like a moron.

  • @danielsimons5706
    @danielsimons5706 Před 7 měsíci +8

    I believe there is another tweak... Melbourne airport has no curfew... I think this flight is at a time when it has to land in Melbourne since everyone else is closed.. that is also why id waits more than 90-120 minutes to continue to Adelaide

  • @macrusdidsmth
    @macrusdidsmth Před 6 měsíci +1

    Pls come visit in Adelaide!! From Adelaide Australia 🇦🇺

  • @taukid421
    @taukid421 Před 7 měsíci

    Lol, love the random Cutthroat Kitchen reference!

  • @Aresenal1739
    @Aresenal1739 Před 7 měsíci +9

    I’m Australian and I’m going to be honest, I don’t even know what the hell goes in Adelaide

    • @ashleymalamute
      @ashleymalamute Před 7 měsíci +4

      I live in Australia and only just heard about this Adelaide thingy.

    • @Bob-Jenkins
      @Bob-Jenkins Před 7 měsíci +3

      I bloody well live in the rAdelaide and I only just found out about it.
      What goes in Adelaide - race cars do, I mean I wouldn't think many people would have known there's a city, if you can see over the concrete barriers that separate the racing from the other side of the barriers I'm pretty sure it's like the German one. Tickets please, no soup for you, and behave otherwise there's going to be a definite case of getting poked with a stick, like the cops and school children carry. A school had a mass poking just the other day… the horror

    • @eris9062
      @eris9062 Před 7 měsíci +3

      One time I checked a tourist guide for Adelaide, and it was literally just wine and beaches, it was an incredibly sad experience.

    • @bugsygoo
      @bugsygoo Před 7 měsíci +3

      I'm originally from Adelaide. I still don't know what goes on there. We used to be good at serial killing, but it seems they don't even do that anymore. As Paul Kelly sang, "The streets are so wide, everybody's inside, In A-del-aide."

    • @Bob-Jenkins
      @Bob-Jenkins Před 7 měsíci +2

      @@bugsygoo
      Well it's one more boring Thursday night in Adelaide
      Where it looks like everybody must have died
      There's no one on the streets and nothing on TV
      Down on Anzac Highway in my rusty old FV
      And I'm looking for some food to take away
      Finger licking kitten and a double fisted bun
      Well I've chewed and spewed and so I'm here to say
      Orange laminex Pizza bars get you down
      Yes we know it was the festival of art and all that stuff
      And the culture vultures still sat on a the fence
      Before you put your bum on those plush red seats take we look in your backyard
      Don't we need some changes to this town?
      Arty farty cities bring you down
      Don't we need some changes to this town?

  • @RollcageTV
    @RollcageTV Před 7 měsíci +4

    #pronunciation With already two "accepted" pronunciations for Qatar, how is it that Sam managed to make up his own third unique way? 😂

    • @DannysGarage
      @DannysGarage Před 7 měsíci

      And then switches the pronunciation halfway through. Mind-boggling.

  • @MeaHeaR
    @MeaHeaR Před 6 měsíci

    It's sitting currently under rego QTR-54Y "Adelaide to N/A" (6:31 am)

  • @granthugo856
    @granthugo856 Před 7 měsíci

    You probably need to check your details before sprouting off. Qatar have flown DIRECT Doha to Adelaide QR914 and return QR915 a few hours later, most days since about 2016. You can also choose to fly via Melbourne to Doha.

  • @monikarani4471
    @monikarani4471 Před 7 měsíci +3

    Please do not waste fuel

  • @JoshuaC923
    @JoshuaC923 Před 7 měsíci +4

    Ah yes the Boeing 777-A320

  • @TS_Mind_Swept
    @TS_Mind_Swept Před 7 měsíci

    It's funny you mentioned the whole ghost flights to keep the time slot thing, cause that's what I was initially thinking wouldthe answer SuperVinlin

  • @gregiles908
    @gregiles908 Před 2 měsíci

    Growing up in Adelaide we were told that there's only 2 places in the world that international shipping refuses to take water on. The water is better now. Melb to Adelaide only has 20 mins of "flight", the rest is ascending or descending

  • @ATIMELINEOFAVIATION
    @ATIMELINEOFAVIATION Před 7 měsíci +3

    0:10 It’s a 777 but he shows an a320 💀

  • @janmuller6546
    @janmuller6546 Před 7 měsíci +66

    No, in fact, buying something from bellroy is not great for the environment. Buying something from bellroy might just be less harmful than buying from other brands, but definitely worse than buying nothing at all. And it might actually be bad, if it encourages more consuming with this excuse. I think you taught us that yourself when you were talking about greenwashing.

    • @May-gr8bp
      @May-gr8bp Před 7 měsíci +12

      on the one hand, sponsorships earn this channel money
      on the other hand, you have a good point about environmental ethics
      Who is right?

    • @ultradude5410
      @ultradude5410 Před 7 měsíci +8

      If you *are* going to buy something though, I think it does make sense to buy from a company that does less environmental damage.

    • @thermitebanana
      @thermitebanana Před 7 měsíci

      You're angry because people on this as supported platform are advertising... ..Things.
      If you go to a shop you are absolutely going to lose it because the whole place is full of objects for sale

    • @paulebroderick
      @paulebroderick Před 7 měsíci +1

      I have a nice key cover from Bellroy - very happy with it. I’m allergic to nickel so need to keep my keys away from my skin and it’s a neat and good quality solution!

  • @Isaac8243
    @Isaac8243 Před 6 dny

    While it costs more to travel from DOH to ADL via MEL, it’s cheaper flying that route in reverse rather than taking the direct ADL to DOH service. Total flight time is longer with the MEL stopover but it’s under 2 hours returning to DOH. As you leave earlier in the morning from ADL you land in DOH the same day.

  • @fearlessjoe44
    @fearlessjoe44 Před 7 měsíci

    That’s some next level Skiplagging ✈️

  • @Turdfergusen382
    @Turdfergusen382 Před 7 měsíci +4

    Hundred of flights a day are this way. There should be a minimum passenger limit for jumbo jets; or you have to board a smaller plane.

    • @carlosquinto1383
      @carlosquinto1383 Před 7 měsíci

      The government made the problem so more government ain't going to fix it.
      The fix would be to remove the anti competition law

    • @asdfssdfghgdfy5940
      @asdfssdfghgdfy5940 Před 7 měsíci +3

      Its a good idea but logistically impossible. Especially for international airlines. It would probably totally backfire as well because they would have to keep smaller planes around which then have to be ferried with no passengers so they can get back to where they need it.

  • @Ghiaman1334
    @Ghiaman1334 Před 7 měsíci +10

    Can we get governments to ban airlines from flying routes that have less than a certain percentage capacity onboard, like maybe 5 or even 10%?

  • @SandyCrack69
    @SandyCrack69 Před 7 měsíci

    Something that if find half as interesting that you missed was that your sponsor Bellroy was partly created in the Melbourne suburb of fitzroy with the other place been Bells Beach which is a world famous place to surf which is an hour or so drive from melbourne

  • @wildlifeshutterbug1719
    @wildlifeshutterbug1719 Před 6 měsíci

    I love the commentary. 👏👏👏🤣😂 Well done 👍

  • @BrettTomlinson
    @BrettTomlinson Před 7 měsíci +21

    The real question is, after forcibly strip-searching all of those Australian female passengers at gunpoint, why is Qatar allowed to fly to Australia at all?

    • @ButzPunk
      @ButzPunk Před 7 měsíci +1

      💰

    • @FrozenDung
      @FrozenDung Před 7 měsíci

      Because Qatar airways shits on cuntas

    • @autograndeunlimited
      @autograndeunlimited Před 7 měsíci +7

      They weren't held at gunpoint. They were just investigated because there was a newborn left abandoned

    • @magical_catgirl
      @magical_catgirl Před 7 měsíci +4

      @@autograndeunlimited It wasn't on board, it was found in the airport terminal. They held all flights and pulled off all females of child baring age for examinations, trying to find the mother of the abandoned baby. Armed airport security boarded the aircraft and pulled the women off the flights.

    • @autograndeunlimited
      @autograndeunlimited Před 7 měsíci

      @@magical_catgirl *correct it was at the airport

  • @johnsmith-le3le
    @johnsmith-le3le Před 7 měsíci +4

    As a sydney goer I can't understand what Melbourne is known for.

  • @notthatgay
    @notthatgay Před 7 měsíci

    Watched this is in Melbourne international airport. Good timing Sam

  • @nddragoon
    @nddragoon Před 7 měsíci +6

    why did the amazon crypto scam spambots decide to pick this specific video to flood

    • @D0cSwiss
      @D0cSwiss Před 7 měsíci +1

      It's not just this video, it's all the recent videos on this channel. As for why, I assume it's because the videos are popular enough to get attention towards their scam but not enough that they get caught super quickly.

  • @tomboard1
    @tomboard1 Před 7 měsíci +3

    I'm in Hicksville Ohio USA and I know what and where Adelaide is. So does my phone dictionary. It's only a city of 1.3 million people. That's hardly in the sticks.