Hydraulic Steer Monster Chopper Build!

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  • čas přidán 11. 01. 2024
  • The Monster Chopper get's hydraulic steering! Check out our favorite Everlast tools here bit.ly/47uIHgv Will custom hydraulic steering work on the custom chopper?
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  • @GrindHardPlumbingCo
    @GrindHardPlumbingCo  Před 6 měsíci +259

    If you haven’t seen our last wild motorcycle run and drive! czcams.com/video/4BTDQrcxCNw/video.htmlsi=T1_uUxxGOuM3kgiA gotta let the new people know that we at Grind Hard Plumbing Co finish and send our projects!

    • @MrGreenAKAguci00
      @MrGreenAKAguci00 Před 6 měsíci +7

      There are hydraulic steering rams for boats. Maybe you guys can do something with that info. Also, the eclectic amalgamation of music in these videos is so damn good every time.

    • @michaelphilpott2837
      @michaelphilpott2837 Před 6 měsíci +4

      I work in the hydraulic dock industry 5056 hydraulic oil is dramatically thinner / will flow easily. Also most bikes have 1/1 but also have 27x4 tires…

    • @bigajoo
      @bigajoo Před 6 měsíci +2

      Have you considered a power assisted steering, like I'm a car?

    • @sheldonsshed6335
      @sheldonsshed6335 Před 6 měsíci +2

      Boat electric actuator. Should do the job!

    • @tarunsingh7608
      @tarunsingh7608 Před 6 měsíci +1

      I have seen Engineers working with MNCs and NASA, but to work with you Guys would be the COOLEST JOB in the World, now I wish I was an mechanical Engineer instead of IT..
      You must Approach Big Studios for Designing Working Cars for Movies like James Bond, Fast n Furious etc..
      😀👏👏👏👏👍👍🧠🎉🎉🎊🎊🥂🥃🥃

  • @colinfurze
    @colinfurze Před 5 měsíci +1567

    It's looking fantastic, i tried exactly the same steering setup on a tall bicycle years ago and very same issues lol

    • @t1nt3d94
      @t1nt3d94 Před 5 měsíci +70

      @colinfurze you legend

    • @theAquillo
      @theAquillo Před 5 měsíci +45

      oi oi i love when creators interact

    • @DR0THE
      @DR0THE Před 5 měsíci +16

      What the bliddy hell you doing here?!

    • @miguelleitao6770
      @miguelleitao6770 Před 5 měsíci +21

      THEY NEED A PUMP Colin

    • @rotzloffel
      @rotzloffel Před 5 měsíci +1

      hi colin

  • @GrindHardPlumbingCo
    @GrindHardPlumbingCo  Před 6 měsíci +2654

    Longest video in the Monster Chopper series yet! Do you like the longer format?

    • @grantstevinson7087
      @grantstevinson7087 Před 6 měsíci +165

      Yes! Totally more enjoyable to watch the longer videos

    • @realville4042
      @realville4042 Před 6 měsíci +107

      I’ve been waiting for this video like a fat kid waits on cake!! Couldn’t be too long!!

    • @michaelbohanon8137
      @michaelbohanon8137 Před 6 měsíci +27

      Yes

    • @kadecampbell8098
      @kadecampbell8098 Před 6 měsíci +34

      Yes. There's something oddly soothing about watching it all come together.

    • @faisalshibah2869
      @faisalshibah2869 Před 6 měsíci +6

      Give me a motorcycle i am following you from Kuwait

  • @recyclops4872
    @recyclops4872 Před 5 měsíci +28

    I've never seen a group of people so happy to be at work. This is honestly calming to me to watch you guys doing what you genuinely love and have a passion for. Love you guys stuff, please keep 'em coming!

    • @Darthdoodoo
      @Darthdoodoo Před 5 měsíci +1

      Watch a good arborist in the tree its awesome. I saw it and had to become an arborist and I smile every single day 😂

    • @Jonathan-L
      @Jonathan-L Před 4 měsíci

      Yeah, totally agree ... a happy attitude and laughter really makes the difference. I think we should all laugh more.

  • @christhesmith
    @christhesmith Před 5 měsíci +44

    Getting sucked into the tiny space between the frame and the rear wheel looks like fun!

    • @danielhall-wl4ql
      @danielhall-wl4ql Před 5 měsíci +6

      they put a "do not enter " sticker there

    • @chaindog82
      @chaindog82 Před 5 měsíci +4

      literally the only thing I could think of while watching that test drive!

  • @GrindHardPlumbingCo
    @GrindHardPlumbingCo  Před 6 měsíci +399

    Sorry for the late upload we were having content ID issues 😮‍💨 I think we need to go back to using Edwin's music💯

    • @aserta
      @aserta Před 6 měsíci +14

      You guys should invest some money and time to make music. I mean, look at MCM - Moog and Marty have their own music. I'm not saying to go to that level, but doing some plays in house would ease your headaches. Their formula works, has worked for 15 years now.
      Also, you could make into a GHPco special episode. The quest for the perfect music. :))
      Sidenote: you should also look into using the AI programs. If you keep one of those programs into a loop of your own music, you'd be safe as far as content matches. Just a thought.

    • @kasnitch
      @kasnitch Před 6 měsíci +4

      I like his music . Impressive build . Love this chan .

    • @cconnon1912
      @cconnon1912 Před 6 měsíci +3

      You owe us nothing. 😇

    • @jackrat8873
      @jackrat8873 Před 6 měsíci +13

      Edwin's music was actually really good, I would occasionally find it in my Spotify playlists

    • @nonesocruel
      @nonesocruel Před 6 měsíci +1

      Monster cat has a content music sub plan for like 10 a month?

  • @KJMTurbo
    @KJMTurbo Před 6 měsíci +276

    One note of a few RE: steering…
    For a gyroscopic system, it’s counterintuitive, as in motion you actually want to counter steer, this will induce a lean of the opposite direction. So when you were turning right and leaning right it was actually standing the bike up and leaning left. This is more noticeable on a street/sports bike at speed and is easily overlooked unless you’ve spent time trying to improve track times.
    Secondly for a hydraulic system, the fluid needs to be pressurised in the desired direction to flow with less resistance. For anyone that has tried to steer a car with hydraulic power steering with the engine off, you’ll notice just how stiff the steering is. This isn’t just the lack of assistance, you’re fighting the fluid in a restricted space, and the harder you push the more resistance you notice, exactly like a suspension damper.
    They make electronic power assisted steering pumps. Common and cheap in small GM hatchbacks in Europe. I’m sure you could find something similar in North America. The ones here can be adjusted how much assistance the pumps create with a potentiometer.

    • @mckrackin5324
      @mckrackin5324 Před 6 měsíci +9

      Something like Volvo assisted steering or maybe Mazda Miata. I was thinking more along the lines of ATV electric power steering. It's designed for 1:1 steering ratio.

    • @socks2441
      @socks2441 Před 6 měsíci +17

      he knows how to ride motorcycles, but i see what you mean. its massively exagerrated here, making it very hard to get the lean going.

    • @socks2441
      @socks2441 Před 6 měsíci

      yeah, atv electric power steering seems like a good way to go.@@mckrackin5324

    • @jessepitt
      @jessepitt Před 6 měsíci +6

      I was thinking ATV electric power assist.

    • @williambrodmanvi5944
      @williambrodmanvi5944 Před 6 měsíci +6

      I 2nd the ATV electric powersteering unit! As you should be able to set it up so that the not a tripple clamp tripple clamp drives its input and then an actuator at the spindle does the output! They are actually pretty good little units that can actually counter react some tire deflection from terrain on like side by sides and whatnot how well it may integrate into this project is yet to be seen. As they are an assist to a manual steering system and not exactly a remote set up. That said sticking with a hydrauluc system may still be prefferd. Either way I think it would be wiser that not to get it sorted out prior to riding of it much more! Kuddos to you for keeping it as light as possible, as I pictured of it going clean thru the fence post and the finally being you baloon mudder tire induced launching off of the car trailer in of the direct distance with out of a real practicail way to bail off even if you wanted too! I'm glad that wasnt the case but ya the steering is pretty important as is probably decent foot pegs should you ever choose to be able to self launch out of harms way! I would think it would be at least a tad bit sketchy knowing that you've got another 46" mudder seeing to follow your every move. That being so staying commited to where ever one sends this monster mudder motorcycle may indeed be a key factor which has me think until possibly you have proven otherwise perhaps keeping of any and all available traction in tact may at some point prove benificial! Or at least I would hold off on shaving the tires until i had determined how robust my final steering is to become as robust enough and it may no longer be an issue! If you do choose to stay hydraulic ya might consider going hydrostatic 2x2 just a thought tho it is your baby and I am very much enjoying watching your build. I hope it turns out to be your best grind hard yet! The barbi boat and dream camper 4x4 tracks where both epic INHO! Grind Hard... & Ride On! The lot of you are the most inspiring thing young america has going for it along with Ambition Strikes. All of you should be proud of what your doing you are certainly earning of it! Great team and great job to all!

  • @gussowsclassicbluesharmoni2726
    @gussowsclassicbluesharmoni2726 Před 5 měsíci +6

    Awesome project! Many years ago, my brother, Seth Gussow, built a recumbent motorcycle in a shop at MIT, where he was a 16-year-old freshman. It was insane, dangerous, and marvelous: exactly what you'd hope for in a truly innovative build. This project has a lot of that same gonzo spirit. More of it, actually. You gents are crazy--and I mean that in a good way. I'm hearing some Wright Brothers vibe. Kitty Hawk here you come. Next summer, I hope.....

  • @HagsRideOrDie
    @HagsRideOrDie Před 5 měsíci +7

    In my 20's I had a 73 Super Glide chopper with no front fender. The amount of road grime, rain and slush I caught in my face was nothing compared to what this thing is going to kick up, ha ha! Love the build, keep going!

    • @BarbershopReviews
      @BarbershopReviews Před 5 měsíci

      Oh man, I didnt even think of that!!! They are gonna be COVERED!!

  • @mountainman1796
    @mountainman1796 Před 6 měsíci +142

    Dropping hour long bangers like this on Friday evenings, right when everyone is getting home, sitting down to relax is genius. Would love to see that become a regular thing... but What a build! This is really awesome guys! Keep it up and can't wait to see the end product!

    • @StanleyKubick1
      @StanleyKubick1 Před 6 měsíci +3

      tell me youre middle aged without telling me youre middle aged

    • @shawnkiller90
      @shawnkiller90 Před 6 měsíci +3

      @@StanleyKubick1 Tell me your a young buck without saying you're a young buck.

    • @JeffRiggz
      @JeffRiggz Před 6 měsíci

      Literally same💯

    • @PushingDownDaisys
      @PushingDownDaisys Před 6 měsíci +1

      Hard part to regular uploads is it becomes less fun/creative when its so time restrictive. I agree, but what's best for them to keep pumping out quality is what's best for us.

  • @sparkygames3968
    @sparkygames3968 Před 6 měsíci +205

    By far one of the coolest builds you guys have done, and Ethan's wife can be happy It's not a Hayabusa

  • @ShenanigansWrenchRepeat
    @ShenanigansWrenchRepeat Před 5 měsíci +3

    I'm excited to see how you remedy the steering cause I'm sure it will be nothing shy of impressive. Thank you guys for the rad content and inspiration! 🤘🤘🤘

  • @Conservativegamingplus
    @Conservativegamingplus Před 5 měsíci +2

    I love all the engineering that goes into these projects you guys do! always something interesting on your channel!

  • @brandonabbott7574
    @brandonabbott7574 Před 6 měsíci +102

    Love the longer format. There are so many adults that are missing out. This is the best channel and build series.

    • @dylanlarabie5945
      @dylanlarabie5945 Před 5 měsíci

      stop forcing your religion on everyone mad corny
      @RepentandbelieveinJesusChrist-

    • @casefc3s
      @casefc3s Před 5 měsíci

      Erm... why are adults missing out?

  • @pokechopachunky2905
    @pokechopachunky2905 Před 6 měsíci +77

    That steering might work with a small power steering pump, or power assist. Hydraulic fluid is very hard to push without some mechanical force, especially in cold weather. You still might have to make a power assisted drag link for easier steering. Great build

    • @jaredlancaster4137
      @jaredlancaster4137 Před 6 měsíci +2

      Can always use thinner fluid or big ol hoses

    • @leftaroundabout
      @leftaroundabout Před 6 měsíci +2

      Power steering might bring its own problems though. Bike steering needs to respond much more accurately than car steering, because stability depends fundamentally on the steering action. With passive steering, the bike will stay upright by itself at speed, but if there's a glitch in an active system then it can just spontaneously throw you off for no apparent reason.

    • @deadslow201
      @deadslow201 Před 6 měsíci +2

      It will not work anyway because of motorcycle steering dynamics.

    • @mikl911
      @mikl911 Před 6 měsíci

      He had the the hydraulic lines hooked up correctly the first time.@@deadslow201

    • @TheShift1313
      @TheShift1313 Před 6 měsíci +1

      ​@@deadslow201what do you mean? This is by no means the first hub steer bike. I dont know if the spindle is tilted at an angle but hub steer bikes still have designed in rake and trail but the benefit is either the rake doesnt change under compression or you can increase rake for more stability.

  • @tootallzz
    @tootallzz Před 5 měsíci +1

    Very cool project build! That plasma cutter is so cool! I am very impressed with this video❤Thank you for sharing!

  • @JohnDoe-fg1di
    @JohnDoe-fg1di Před 5 měsíci +1

    Definitely an absolutely beautiful creation! And! You're also going in a super sweet direction with this style of build! This thing should climb small cliffs!!!!

  • @firstarmyspider
    @firstarmyspider Před 6 měsíci +126

    out of literal hundreds of thousands of bikes I watch ppl build, this one is by far the most anticipated finish I believe. love you guys, keep it up.

    • @casonlane9504
      @casonlane9504 Před 6 měsíci +2

      Hundreds of thousands? Really?

    • @nickg6312
      @nickg6312 Před 6 měsíci

      @@casonlane9504 hyperbole

    • @Hard_Right
      @Hard_Right Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@nickg6312what ??? nooooo!! NEVER!!!!

  • @mikel.6126
    @mikel.6126 Před 5 měsíci +228

    Design tip: keep in mind the torque the cylinder exerts on the wheel is the force times the PERPENDICULAR distance from the centerline of the cylinder to the pivot center of the steering knuckle king pin. Make the mount where the rod end of the cylinder attaches taller, this will make the cylinder more parallel to the length of the bike, making the perp distance larger and giving you more torque

    • @KafeMann
      @KafeMann Před 5 měsíci +29

      As I read this, all I can hear is that one kid in math class saying, "when will I actually use this in real life?"

    • @Darthdoodoo
      @Darthdoodoo Před 5 měsíci +5

      Did i just catch you being all smart n shit😂😂😂😂

    • @whiskeyminer1073
      @whiskeyminer1073 Před 5 měsíci

      I was thinking the same, that the force he's feeling is because the angle of the front cylinder in relation to the way he's using the cylinder to turn the hub. Maybe a different steering linkage to multiple his steering force or booster? or change the the front cylinder angle to gain more torque?

    • @biggestcomplainer
      @biggestcomplainer Před 5 měsíci

      Smart

    • @playingscales84
      @playingscales84 Před 5 měsíci +1

      You can see the master piston flexing up and down creating steering lag. You can also hear the fluid struggling to transfer. The orifices or lines could stand to be opened up, a thinner fluid would help also. Another big tip, the amount of trail the front end has determines how well the bike will steer. However, the width and curvature of the front tire is pivotal to the handling as well. You will never get the bike to steer properly with that wide and square of a profile due to its counter active motion to the increased castor angle. This bike will never handle safely until the front tire profile is either narrowed greatly or rounded substantially as in it's current form the relation of center of mass vs contact patch is opposite of what is required for safe and intuitive operation. At best, this will handle similar to the batman motorcycle, like a missile that doesn't turn until a lean angle of 40 degrees. That being said, it looks awesome and is one hell of an undertaking. Very impressive.

  • @zachb541
    @zachb541 Před 5 měsíci +2

    I love how precise you are with everything, oh that sticker is holding it up 😂

  • @settytb1
    @settytb1 Před 5 měsíci +1

    It's cool to see the evolution of you guys. Initially it was kind of cobbling things together, but this is like a work of art. The brackets with the cut outs, are beautiful the flowing designs. This is a gorgeous machine with lots of thought but also just art that went into it. Well done guys.

  • @christopherthompson4359
    @christopherthompson4359 Před 6 měsíci +35

    Love the fact that you show when things don't work and doesn't magically just work the first time. Your creativity is off the charts.

  • @_Jake_Elkins
    @_Jake_Elkins Před 6 měsíci +46

    I’m super impressed with Ethan’s commitment to stick to pure premiumness with this build. I’m sure it’s frustrating to design and build such complex pieces of this bike to find out it doesn’t work. But us viewers definitely notice and appreciate how you are going all out and leaving no stone unturned! Best build series ever. Keep at it man

  • @highvoltagefeathers
    @highvoltagefeathers Před 5 měsíci +20

    Been following this for a bit, and it's amazing. I don't know if it's been mentioned before, but I'm worried about steering as a function of the center of gravity. In order to lean the bike, you need to countersteer which puts the bike out from under the center of gravity (usually above the axles) and allows you to keep the bike upright and turn. It looks like the CG of the motorcycle could be so close to, or even below the center of the wheels that this isn't possible. It might need a lift to more of a dark knight "batpod" geometry to be rideable.
    Keep on!

    • @Jeremy.Bearemy
      @Jeremy.Bearemy Před 5 měsíci +3

      Yeah this thing definitely isn't going to be rideable at any appreciable speed 😂
      But definitely looks cool and will be great for a parade

    • @TunaIRL
      @TunaIRL Před 29 dny

      ​@@Jeremy.Bearemy Definitely?

  • @UnmaskedMike
    @UnmaskedMike Před 5 měsíci +3

    Ethan wearing a ring is mind blowing to me. This man is a fabrication genius. Please keep your digits safe, they make you money and keep us entertained!

  • @the.unhappy.mechanic
    @the.unhappy.mechanic Před 6 měsíci +55

    You might need an electronic hydraulic steering pump to make the steering more responsive and quicker. It might also help out turning left. It looks like it doesn't want to turn left.

    • @charlesking1421
      @charlesking1421 Před 6 měsíci +2

      I was gunna say the same thing

    • @McLivin
      @McLivin Před 6 měsíci +2

      My thoughts exactly you are just using a fulcrum to try and push and pull out a manual line. Its just like using your hands to manually pull out the cylinder. If the cylinder is worth anything it will be hard to push or pull. So long story short you should use some sort of pump to push the fluid in or better yet just use some smaller cylinders that mover freely to force the liquid into the larger system.

    • @deadslow201
      @deadslow201 Před 6 měsíci

      It will not work anyway because of motorcycle steering dynamics.

    • @the.unhappy.mechanic
      @the.unhappy.mechanic Před 6 měsíci

      @deadslow201 it may need linear actuators and an electronic steering and over inflating those flat top tires to round them, but that would be extremely dangerous. The old k5 Blazer had trouble steering left, and it was solved with hydraulic steering or crossover steering. Not that crossover steering would or could work. I've seen an electronic hydraulic steering pump before, not that I can remember what it was on.

    • @deadslow201
      @deadslow201 Před 6 měsíci +2

      @@the.unhappy.mechanic Steering dynamics are totally different in two wheels vs four wheels.

  • @kmunga89
    @kmunga89 Před 6 měsíci +85

    Love these builds.
    The air steering actuators will eventually leak when used with hydraulic fluid because the fluid will react and eat out the internal seals in the actuators.
    The steering will work if you find a way of incorporating a pump to put the system under constant pressure, make it an assited steering system. You'll probably need some valves too, I.e. shuttle valves, check valves etc.

    • @Turd_Runner
      @Turd_Runner Před 6 měsíci +2

      @RepentandbelieveinJesusChrist- Well, maybe if he had a useful name like enerpac or power team maybe thy shale be more relevant to the tube of you video. ​@RepentandbelieveinJesusChrist-

    • @jesseerickson662
      @jesseerickson662 Před 5 měsíci +4

      ​@@Turd_Runner
      I think what he's saying is to ask Jesus for help with the steering issues 🤔 😅

    • @Turd_Runner
      @Turd_Runner Před 5 měsíci

      @jesseerickson662 naa man, he is just a NPC droning about...

    • @bobmahnamahknob
      @bobmahnamahknob Před 5 měsíci +1

      Is that like jeebus take the wheel?

    • @skin2117
      @skin2117 Před 5 měsíci

      When we gonna see some rooster tails

  • @smidtyautosports7158
    @smidtyautosports7158 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Cannot wait to see you riding that piece of Art!

  • @madlad0548
    @madlad0548 Před 5 měsíci

    One of the coolest looking projects ever,😍 just badass, cant wait to see it run👍

  • @batman3698
    @batman3698 Před 5 měsíci +145

    I am abit concerned about the safety of that rear tire against the seat. Looks like it could pinch you pretty bad and cause some serious injury, so maybe do a back rest / mud guard type thing would be my recommendation.

    • @mkzhero
      @mkzhero Před 5 měsíci +10

      I'm sure, or at least hope they'll do that later on... I mean, yeah, it'd be bad, but having no breaks is about as dangerous, so, its anything but finished at this point... There's a lot of other things wrong with it right now that i do NOT think they can fix tho, like the weight being offset to the side, which i don't get, they could make it an S shape chassis and fix it easily, etc. Also those honeycomb load bearing structures and some other stuff on it looks super finnicky, it makes no sense too because those parts hardly save any weight but take a lot of extra work...

    • @pablosatchmo3062
      @pablosatchmo3062 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Exactly what I was thinking hit a bump n land on the back wheel

    • @MrDrunkenMoose
      @MrDrunkenMoose Před 5 měsíci +21

      Yeah look at 54:05, that already was close. That shit could literally kill you if it drags you down and pinches you between the seat and the rear suspesion with enough momentum or torque. I'm all for DIY but they need some sort auf fender seat combo asap, to get rid of this insane safety hazard.

    • @mkzhero
      @mkzhero Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@MrDrunkenMoose yep, but don't forget the stupid honeycomb load bearing structures, if they snap all sorts of bad stuff can happen too... And well, they did snap even in this vid lol

    • @ryanlarsen3266
      @ryanlarsen3266 Před 5 měsíci +4

      @@mkzhero he would become the brake if he slid back into that wheel. definitely needs some kind of guard back there, good call. all good points bro

  • @erikochmyself
    @erikochmyself Před 6 měsíci +28

    This is incredibly impressive, the amount of engineering needed to make this is superb

  • @phillipmuriithi94
    @phillipmuriithi94 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Been waiting on this update alone very...passionately
    More please! 🙃

  • @ChristopherLaHaise
    @ChristopherLaHaise Před 5 měsíci +1

    I want to see more of this. :) It looks cool!

  • @killkrazy9913
    @killkrazy9913 Před 5 měsíci +81

    imagine slipping back and that rear tire eats you up lol. cannot wait to see this thing functioning. Absolute beast.

    • @isaacserbin8763
      @isaacserbin8763 Před 5 měsíci

      They are going to need fenders on it

    • @ShaunHensley
      @ShaunHensley Před 5 měsíci +5

      That's all I have been thinking about every time I see this

    • @moldynugget8290
      @moldynugget8290 Před 5 měsíci +1

      😂I’ve done that kinda with a 3 wheeler

    • @Bluuplanet
      @Bluuplanet Před 4 měsíci

      It would turn a lot easier with 1" hoses and big fittings.

    • @Bluuplanet
      @Bluuplanet Před 4 měsíci +1

      Maybe fasten a sheet of that black UHMW to the back of your hoodie when riding that thing.

  • @neonnerd1364
    @neonnerd1364 Před 6 měsíci +25

    I absolutely love the length of the videos you guys put out lately. I can't get enough grindhard. Between new videos I go back and re-watch the older builds. I still have a special place in my heart for the barbie mustang since that's what got me onto you guys. Keep up the premium work! Can't wait to see this bike finished. If will rides it just makes sure he has on 4 hoodies.

  • @jimmykoran7805
    @jimmykoran7805 Před 5 měsíci +2

    I like that you show your whole process even if it doesnt work out. Thats how projects like these go! There is so much unknown since you dont have anything to base it off of really. That system would work great with hydraulic rams and a tiny steering pump of sorts.

  • @625098evan
    @625098evan Před 5 měsíci +2

    it goes without saying that workmenship on this and other builds on this channel are outstanding. but, I am also endlessly impressed the the cinemetrgraphy. very fun to watch.

  • @adamcochran6323
    @adamcochran6323 Před 6 měsíci +21

    So much anticipation for this video! When I saw 50+ minutes I was amped! And you guys didn't disappoint either! Great coverage of the real complexity of motorcycle design, especially ridiculously cool unique bikes. I had a list of concerns when this project got started, and the steering was most of it, and balance. Thanks for sharing the success and failure along the way. Such a cool machine, and my favorite one of your creations to date. Ethan, make some grind hard hex wrenches for your merch page, and Edwin, once again man, beautiful edit and compilation. Your music picks are spot on. Need to make some feature music vids of your drone flights, it would be popular for sure... Can't wait till the next video! Monster chopper rules!

  • @somagraphics
    @somagraphics Před 6 měsíci +16

    This build is so incredible. I absolutely love your friend dynamic and it's incredible to watch your genius and artistry.

  • @aminehayto7028
    @aminehayto7028 Před 5 měsíci +1

    This is one of my favorites projects I ever watched

  • @gregburgess6884
    @gregburgess6884 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Absolutely can not wait for the finished product

  • @user-ho7ld6ch8q
    @user-ho7ld6ch8q Před 6 měsíci +15

    The level of detail on this build is absolutely wild! Killing it!!

  • @SlickPlayss
    @SlickPlayss Před 6 měsíci +16

    The engineering genius of grind hard is unbelievable! I get mind blown every time you guys drop a video! Great work!

    • @PhuckitFuk
      @PhuckitFuk Před 6 měsíci +1

      I don’t think that word means what you think it means!

  • @spicersgarage6470
    @spicersgarage6470 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I got a good laugh out of the end ! 🤣 keep up the builds !

  • @pj7362
    @pj7362 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Hats off to the footage and the editing.

  • @noobFab
    @noobFab Před 6 měsíci +22

    Steven has become a top notch cameraman. Little details such as pans from one area of focus to another and steadiness of hand all go with basic framing and focus pulls to make grind hard one of the best looking channels on CZcams. Edwin’s editing has also advanced a long way since the early days, but he’s been at an elevated level for a while now. Combine that with Ethan’s status as a mad automotive scientist and you have super-satisfying content!!!

    • @parphi3051
      @parphi3051 Před 5 měsíci

      Funny…I was thinking the same thing. Great vid production. Must doing story boards, post production film editing and the whole enchilada.

  • @Nick1one_
    @Nick1one_ Před 6 měsíci +11

    Defiantly put a fender between that rear tire and the seat lol, I had mad anxiety watching how close Ethan got to getting sucked into the tire at the back! Anyway you could try using a steer-by-wire setup?

    • @boondock54x4
      @boondock54x4 Před 6 měsíci

      There are several vehicles out nowadays that have "electric power steering" it would solve many of the steering issues. I'm not
      being critical at all.
      This build is the best thing out right now. I'm just offering my $00.02
      Great channel, awesome build.
      Love the long format video on a Friday evening!❤

  • @LegoLover69
    @LegoLover69 Před 5 měsíci

    you guys are so talented. this is so cool to watch.

  • @totenfurwotan4478
    @totenfurwotan4478 Před 5 měsíci

    This is incredible content. I wish i had the tools you have. Really lucky to get to do this everyday

  • @gulledgeadamful
    @gulledgeadamful Před 6 měsíci +16

    Ethan is like a mad scientist in the shop. And he's got the hair to go with it.

  • @dloneyv8
    @dloneyv8 Před 6 měsíci +7

    The builds have progressed in a major way. Bravo you guys! This thing is art!

  • @mynamedontfi
    @mynamedontfi Před 5 měsíci +1

    Jeez what a dream set up, the garage the mountains, the tools You guys know how to live.

  • @marinomusico5768
    @marinomusico5768 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Simply AMAZING ❤ Can't wait to see more ❤❤❤

  • @manks5491
    @manks5491 Před 6 měsíci +7

    So badass. Love the longer format, and the clarity on the b-roll is gorgeous. You guys have perfected your formula with the videos, I can hardly wait for the next one. Beautiful work, fellas

  • @Catiadr
    @Catiadr Před 6 měsíci +50

    I'm sure you have had a lot of feedback on the fluidic questions, but just keep in mind that the diameter of the input cylinder needs to be doubled or tripled to amplify the output downstream. That is the simplified math of it. Adding a towpoint and a winch would be sweet!

    • @chrisparti
      @chrisparti Před 5 měsíci +2

      If the input cylinder diameter is doubled then the handlebars would move half the angle that the front wheel has turned, it would also reduce the mechanical advantage and require more human force to turn. If you doubled the diameter of the cylinder attached to the front wheel, then it would improve the mechanical advantage, making it easier to move the handlebars, but require the handle bars to turn double the angle of the front wheel. I think the restriction is in the fittings and hoses, they are designed for high-pressure low-flow. If he used larger high-flow hoses (similar to those found on hydraulic injection moulding machines) that should improve it, but the actual port threads into the cylinders may be too small for that approach.

    • @legros731
      @legros731 Před 5 měsíci +2

      Won't change the fact it need to pass through the small fittings so it act like a syringe will always be really hard to move
      The only way this work is to use a small hydraulic pump with a orbitrol steering valve and a steering cylinder could be salvaged from a small front Kubota or John Deere front mount mower or other small tractor
      Problem will be powering the hydraulic pump
      Or a Volvo electric power steering pump could be used but the bike electrical system is probably not up to the task

  • @LynnLight
    @LynnLight Před 5 měsíci +1

    I love your creative mind...so much fun.

  • @NWO-Off-Road
    @NWO-Off-Road Před 5 měsíci

    Congrats on 2m subscribers! Well deserved!

  • @drakeenglish1683
    @drakeenglish1683 Před 6 měsíci +5

    This think never disappoints. This is such an amazing build and your truly killing it on the design side of things. I can't wait to see it finished and I'm excited to see what you do to fix the steering side of things. It looks so bad ass rolling. It truly is rolling art man.

  • @mmmax2g
    @mmmax2g Před 6 měsíci +4

    There is something to be said about creating a concept and THEN making it a reality; OUTSTANDING job fellas! Going thru the motions to make it work is truly unique and special... Look forward to the next video :)

  • @yoy4629
    @yoy4629 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Excellent workmanship.

  • @bosswinrwin
    @bosswinrwin Před 5 měsíci +1

    Great work of a great man! Salute brother! ❤🫡

  • @benrozema8007
    @benrozema8007 Před 6 měsíci +6

    Its here its finally here... the big one.

  • @jesseshort8
    @jesseshort8 Před 6 měsíci +15

    Pneumatic cylinders don't really double as hydraulic cylinders. Getting the right cylinders and lines might make the whole work a lot better. Awesome build though, as always.🤙

    • @parkouratheight
      @parkouratheight Před 6 měsíci +3

      I've seen guys convert pneumatic to hydraulic and it took quite a bit of machining and adding numerous seals to the system. It definitely wasn't plug and play.

  • @Chris-cq5dy
    @Chris-cq5dy Před 5 měsíci

    What an awesome build. Can't wait to see it move on its own

  • @sherwoodgoodenough2823
    @sherwoodgoodenough2823 Před 5 měsíci

    This is amazing!

  • @astonmoore6126
    @astonmoore6126 Před 6 měsíci +7

    Yes, absolutely love the LOOOONG format GHPC videos. At 3 seconds in I already know this is going too be the best 57 mins of the morning!!!!

  • @ozbitme
    @ozbitme Před 6 měsíci +9

    i built a cargo bike and used pneumatic cylinders like you have. it didn't ever work i replaced it with 2 push pull cables it worked so much better. Boat steering push pull cables worked really well.

    • @Fix_It_Again_Tony
      @Fix_It_Again_Tony Před 6 měsíci +1

      Cables seem really practical here.

    • @Backwoodbuilds
      @Backwoodbuilds Před 6 měsíci

      Use a Morse push pull cable from a commercial boat for the steering. You can order them in exact lengths from fisheries supply in Seattle Washington. They are big and beefy low friction but can't make tight turns, but the Arc of your front arm is probably just fine.

  • @jasonlightfoot4145
    @jasonlightfoot4145 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Love the lathe footage 🤩

  • @franker1111
    @franker1111 Před 5 měsíci

    What a awesome build 👏

  • @brianmathews8649
    @brianmathews8649 Před 6 měsíci +5

    As someone who has a problem with saving all his scrap wood, I appreciate Ethan's ability to use all the scrap metal.

  • @leonardochristophe29
    @leonardochristophe29 Před 6 měsíci +5

    Love your build can’t wait to see it in further action

  • @yattaran1484
    @yattaran1484 Před 5 měsíci +2

    So happy to see you not becoming the first rider to get hurt from riding this monster !. 😄

  • @yashparbat_
    @yashparbat_ Před 5 měsíci

    very exciting ❤
    can't wait to see proper monster machine

  • @xK0Mx
    @xK0Mx Před 6 měsíci +51

    Great build man, truly unique and a great level of functionality.
    **Have you considered the consequences of sliding rearward into the tire? Seems like a taint splitter 😖
    Maybe I missed a the rear fender plans

    • @badhabit6140
      @badhabit6140 Před 6 měsíci +8

      This. That will kill him even at lower speeds. Please please add some fender, rail just up to your lower back at the very least please

    • @KevinTaNet
      @KevinTaNet Před 6 měsíci +3

      He's sitting on bare steal bars at the moment. There's gotta be plans to add a proper seat and hopefully high seat back or fender.

    • @jasonlt1982
      @jasonlt1982 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Taint splitter 2000

  • @colo_laser
    @colo_laser Před 6 měsíci +15

    Counter steering and hard leaning is going to be an important technique to master piloting this beast...

  • @timberlineoffroad
    @timberlineoffroad Před 5 měsíci +3

    I watched the whole thing great video! You could go full hydro with an orbital and use an electric power steering pump from a volvo and mount it anywhere you want! Cant wait for the next episode!👌

  • @handynothandsome261
    @handynothandsome261 Před 5 měsíci

    *I’m jealous, gentlemen! Nice work!*

  • @Dezmage
    @Dezmage Před 6 měsíci +29

    I always knew these guys were precise in their fab work but when Ethan said ‘perfect fit except it’s getting held up by the sticker’ that’s when I realized it’s damn near perfection

  • @dwightmcintosh8511
    @dwightmcintosh8511 Před 5 měsíci +26

    Very cool and excellent workmanship. Couple small thoughts to keep in mind, first is that as those big wheels begin to move you will find a dramatic increase in the gyroscopic effect which will make steering, leaning, and turning increasingly difficult as speed increases, second is you should look up a quick primer on the application of hydraulic force that will show you how to arrange a small diameter piston to exert great force on a large diameter one.

  • @piyushpundir7973
    @piyushpundir7973 Před 5 měsíci

    Can't wait to see this fully functional

  • @gregholmes3661
    @gregholmes3661 Před 6 měsíci +6

    This is not just a build…it’s geniuses with art work.

  • @wyattwilson9312
    @wyattwilson9312 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Been waiting a minute for this! I’ve never clicked so fast for one of your videos! Always impressed every time I tune in!

  • @TkTalko
    @TkTalko Před 5 měsíci

    Too cool. Really enjoy the long video's

  • @stevethomas6994
    @stevethomas6994 Před 4 měsíci

    Something satisfying about watching gearheads nerding out on badass projects.

  • @passismyname
    @passismyname Před 5 měsíci +3

    As a metal fabricator that generally only does TIG, its nice seeing a youtuber fabricating and using TIG, and being pretty decent at it. Everyone else I see on the site does MIG because they're bad at welding, and it always looks sloppy. So this is a nice change of pace for me, you've gained a follower for life. Keep up the good work.

    • @mcpudd1540
      @mcpudd1540 Před 5 měsíci

      Go see Tye’s work for Cletus McFarland. Beautiful stuff.

  • @amhicks21
    @amhicks21 Před 6 měsíci +7

    I've driven quite a few tractors with hydraulic steering and they all have quite a bit of internal leakage right from new. Its only a little annoying with a steering wheel because your steering knob is never in the same place but its definitely more of a challenge to find a solution with handle bars.

  • @slim_pickins6393
    @slim_pickins6393 Před 5 měsíci +1

    You guys definitely need to bring that to Sturgis this year. Bad ass!

  • @daynmarshall7262
    @daynmarshall7262 Před 5 měsíci

    Can't wait to see that run

  • @skeeterbuildsit6016
    @skeeterbuildsit6016 Před 6 měsíci +16

    Love it! I’m sure you could use PSC full hydro steering with some sort of battery powered small pump. Just mount the steering mechanism in your front fork on the bottom of your steering column

    • @FrodeAltink
      @FrodeAltink Před 6 měsíci

      I don’t really understand why you (Ethan) didn’t start with hydraulic rams? Like, there are brands (like PSC) that make hydro steering. Why not start with that when you have to order stuff anyway.
      I don’t know that much about hydraulics. But isn’t it quite obvious that an air ram isn’t going to work with hydraulic fluid?
      Don’t mean to be rude. Just a bit surprised since you have so much experience building stuff and I who have a lot less experience building stuff called it out as soon as I realized that it was air rams.

    • @AdamsWorld84
      @AdamsWorld84 Před 6 měsíci +3

      ​@@FrodeAltinkit'll work lol. These guys obviously know what they're doing!! 😂 It's not like they're slow. They're all very well qualified. It it doesn't work as they intended they'll know another route

    • @deadslow201
      @deadslow201 Před 6 měsíci +1

      It will not work anyway because of motorcycle steering dynamics.

    • @AdamsWorld84
      @AdamsWorld84 Před 6 měsíci +1

      ​​​@@deadslow201yea it does seem a bit of a weak point. But I'm sure they'll work around the issue. It's an absolute BEAST of a bike and will need some heavy duty style steering for accuracy and safety. But for testing purposes it gives them a starting point and to show the weakness points.

    • @datadavis
      @datadavis Před 6 měsíci

      @@AdamsWorld84 What are these qualifications exactly?

  • @wmden1
    @wmden1 Před 5 měsíci +10

    Your air cylinders might have smaller passage holes than a hydraulic cylinder would have, either in the pipe threaded ports of the cylinder, or the line fittings. You might drill out those passages. There also might be an adjustable speed control valve in your line fittings. There is a restriction somewhere.

    • @KingCovfefe
      @KingCovfefe Před 5 měsíci

      My thoughts as well: pneumatic components often use dramatically smaller passages.

  • @TJBRUTALCUSTOMS
    @TJBRUTALCUSTOMS Před 5 měsíci +1

    man i am amazed your pants didn't get pulled into the chain from the jackshaft!! had me puckered for a second there! good show dudes!!

  • @tomaszmasowski5056
    @tomaszmasowski5056 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Witam serdecznie
    Dopiero dziś trafiłem na wasz kanał, obejrzałem odcinek i nie mogę doczekać się kiedy ten projekt będzie skończony. Trzymam kciuki żeby wszystko się powiodło dobrze
    Pozdrawiam Tomek

  • @tonylindsay5001
    @tonylindsay5001 Před 5 měsíci +11

    I've been a commercial diver, boat captain, ran many different vehicles in my life. My uncle was the Dean of Engineering at McGill for decades (William Bruce).
    I got to see your channel-thru other searches.. Am VERY happy to see a channel that shows lathes, tooling, CAD, design..
    EVERYBODY needs to realize, if you can dream it, you can FABRICATE it.
    THANK YOU for finally showing the process,

    • @floyd.pepper
      @floyd.pepper Před 5 měsíci

      amen!

    • @tonylindsay5001
      @tonylindsay5001 Před 5 měsíci

      I should mention i was on the Nancy Green team back in the '80s.. downhill racer, mogul.. got a cameo in a Warren Miller Film, was a jr Instructor by 11yrs old.. Spent my fair share of time on a monkeyboard in -60 "throwing pipe".. LOVE your "northern Idaho" snow.. you should come play in my backyard.. (British Columbia)..

    • @tonylindsay5001
      @tonylindsay5001 Před 5 měsíci

      In 1945, my uncle and a team of engineering students (war rations-no gas) built a wood burning car, and drove across Canada.. your on the same wavelength as us crazy people that put chainsaw motors on mountain bikes..

  • @barabolak
    @barabolak Před 6 měsíci +5

    Time to learn how power steering works! Great video guys! I really enjoyed watching it! Can't wait to see it run!

  • @Jaguartmb
    @Jaguartmb Před 5 měsíci +1

    Guys guys, we need to see this project completed, its amazing!

  • @MyStrawberry-ee4qb
    @MyStrawberry-ee4qb Před 5 měsíci +4

    With these tires, either you have to use a sensor and a decent servo motor+generator combo. Or you use an electro-hydraulic system, but in the winter you have to wait for the fluid to warm up and when it’s at a higher temp you have to cool it down and that takes up a lot of space and adds weight to your already heavy bike.

  • @dalemiley3713
    @dalemiley3713 Před 6 měsíci +14

    Great stuff! I'm not sure if it's been mentioned, but maybe an outboard hydraulic helm could work for the steering?

  • @MegaLuek
    @MegaLuek Před 5 měsíci +1

    Put Will on lunchtime cooking duties if he has his phone is his back pocket. The amount of times this guy forgets, you guys will be eating a cooked free lunch everyday. Love the channel. You guys must be doing so much more walking with the new big shed. Keep bringing all the cool content. You guys rock and this is a PREMIUM channel. Absolutely EPIC build. Never seen anything like it in my life. Much respect!

  • @GrindHardPlumbingCo
    @GrindHardPlumbingCo  Před 6 měsíci +94

    26:06 Want to hear more about Will's viral Chang Li Reel? Check out the last podcast episode here czcams.com/video/HYEiObxR6aQ/video.htmlsi=MSaz38uLMJvAGbre

    • @SentAndBent
      @SentAndBent Před 6 měsíci +1

      #20 is our best podcast so far!

    • @Ruckusracing-777
      @Ruckusracing-777 Před 6 měsíci +2

      Chhaaang li

    • @TylersHomeDesign
      @TylersHomeDesign Před 6 měsíci +3

      To fix the steering you need to add a hydraulic pump into the system with actual hydraulic rams and hook heavy equipment controls into the handle bars. The bike looks a lot like the one in batman first knight.

    • @hill-gilliegarage4633
      @hill-gilliegarage4633 Před 6 měsíci

      Hk4200a-3 Hydraulic Outboard Steering System Kit Hose Kit Helm 20ft
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    • @chopperwhitewolf7050
      @chopperwhitewolf7050 Před 6 měsíci +2

      Dude, we gotta have a serious conversation. You built an entire new building to play mad scientist (Which is much appreciated) but Still haven't put a single piece of siding, or any other form of exterior cladding of any kind whatsoever on the house!
      We watched the shop build, we'd watch a "So it's about damned time we finished the house" video

  • @nateback796
    @nateback796 Před 5 měsíci +5

    Hey guys absolutely love the build! The steering is a great concept once you iron out the forces, But there is one BIG concern I have about speed wobble once it's driving under its own power. I can see the slop amplifying a wobble. Just something to test thoroughly as you start adding more speed.

    • @maukaman
      @maukaman Před 5 měsíci

      Interesting point. Speed wobbles are terrifying on any wheeled vehicle but wobbles on a wheel that you’re straddling that weighs more than you do sounds like a nightmare