Frethand Thumb Pain - GL365 Student Spotlight
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In this Student Spotlight lesson, I will try and help William diagnose and fix what could be causing his frethand thumb pain.
From the short playing example he gave, I believe I can see some issues with his wrist angle that can easily be fixed and will put a lot less stress on his thumb and wrist.
If you bow your wrist out, it pulls your palm further out in front of the fretboard. This might feel like an easier way to reach the notes, but moving the hand that far out causes the thumb to apply a lot of extra pressure to the back of the neck in order to not be pulled along with the rest of the hand.
You will need to instead keep your wrist as straight as possible (a slight wrist bow is unavoidable in some playing situations) and adjust how your fingers reach the notes by rotating your forearm both counterclockwise or clockwise depending on the situation.
I hope this helps you play without pain William! Just watch that wrist angle! :)
Thanks! Carl...
Carl, thank you so much for making the video! You're definitely right, I always bend my wrist like that, it never occurred to me that could be the problem. Thank you again
William Jones how have you been playing like that that long?! I tried what you were doing and I couldn’t hold it for even five minutes!
@@j.t.cremeans9384 Probably for years now😅 I've been teaching myself for about 3 years now, so I guess that whole time. I'm excited to get home and try to fix it
I hope it helps William. I am pretty sure it will!
This is like my problem. I'm sure my left hand position is causing issues with my wrist and hand and thumb
@@mattyguitar22 same here, unfortunately, many cords I use and the harmony I play requires some major wrist bending...
I've watched at least five other videos trying to figure out how to play Barre chords without pain. All with good suggestions, but this was the main issue I was having. Thank you so much!
It is a shame that i can like this video only once, thank you so much.
Good kid! Rockin the Iron Maiden poster and wearing a Megadeth shirt.
The only way to go🤘
I've had this problem ever since transitioning from bass to guitar. I've searched around for answers or advice and never found any solid explanations. Thank you Carl!
Why change from bass to guitar?
THANK YOU SO MUCH CARL!!! I LOVE ALL YOUR VIDEOS. GODBLESS YOU!!!
Thank you so much from the future! Watching this in 2022. I am a ukulele player but had similar problems to your student! You fixed it!
I started playing last July during lockdown and play everyday, never had any problems until a few weeks ago, I thought it might be overplaying and my age ~(59) same exactly the issue. After watching this video I realised it coincided with me starting to mix my practice with sitting and standing and boy was my wrist bowed when standing! So thanks ...
Thank you so much Carl, feeling better now.
Thank you so much
Great advice
Wow, thank you. This really helps/makes sense. It's exactly what has been causing my problem.
thanks a lot man! you’re the best.
Worked for me! Cant stay too long playing barre chords because of the pain. The only problem right now is to get used to this new technique!
Thanks, man!
Thankyou!!!
Thanks sooo much for this video. I've been having quite bad thumb pain for a month now, and a week off and then after just light practice hasn't really helped. But I also play bass and hardly have this problem at all when I play bass. I've just grabbed my guitar and bass and looked at where my left hand is, when I play. Sure enough with the bass my wrist/palm is pretty much straight but with guitar my wrist has almost a 90 degree angle. My long arms and fingers mean that the "natural way" for me to finger notes without damping the neighbouring strings is to have the fingers and wrist way forward. I guess I'll have to go back a few stages and practice those chords with my elbow as far back as it will go.
... thank you so much !
Thank you! I think my mistake is the same. It seems that this will help me too!
You are the first person I've come across that said to pull back your elbow. My problem was solved. Maybe other guitarists just assume your already doing that. Thank you!
Ive had problems with thumb pain when I used to play powerchords with my pinkie (baring with the pinkie) once I started to play powerchords like billy corgan my thumb went automaticly to the back from the neck and I have no pain anymore when playing powerchords! :D
I am a physician. He is probably developing a mild sprain there. An ice wrap around that area for twenty minutes after playing will be beneficial.
Thank you
this man has fixed my entire worldview
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I cant move my wrist back without loosing the chord shape, its a stretch from 3 to 7 from the e to d string and when i move my wrist straight I cant stretch far enough for the chord
Same. Maybe my hands are too small
Hi ,
I was wondering do you have a video on Developing a LIGHT TOUCH on guitar with the right hand finger style ?
I think I was making the same mistake when I played but I didn't know any other way to reach upper strings and to stay on my finger tips because I have small hands/short fingers. My pain came in on the outside thumb tendon at the wrist/base of the thumb.
Ok Dr.Carl 😄
Actually it suits you alot!
I'm really hoping this is the answer I'm looking for. A quick play on the guitar suggests it could be. Thank you. I've been so frustrated by this problem. It only occurred when I started standing to play after only sitting to play for a while. I can see the change in guitar position lead to the problem you identify.
Do you have a lesson on Who Do You Love?
Hey Carl , how did you heal/fix the tendinitis in your picking hand thumb ? Mine has been feeling weird lately I may have the same problem
That boy be flexing
Hi Carl, how i reduce my shoulder pain? i have my picking hand pretty relaxed i would say, but it hurts when i am sitting. In standing it is ok even when i am playing faster riffs. Do you have some tips?
I reckon you have highlighted why my thumb hurts! Trouble is I seem to have to crook my wrist to reach the strings and play them cleanly. If I straighten my wrist I just can't play those chords (well not at the moment anyway).
The muscle between my index and thumb hurts when doing barre chords. Does this fix that as well?
I have the same problem. The issue is, if i straighten out my wrist, my fingers aren't long enough to avoid muting strings they shouldn't.
Does applying some local anaesthetic ointment helps? Hve you ever tried that???
For me, I’ve been getting thumb pain when I’m doing bar chords. At first I was pressing super hard on the neck. I’ve adjusted but the pain is still there.
same 😔
Liked and subbed! Currently fixing my own technique, this video is great!
One more question: what pickups do you have in the Strat? Sounds fat :)
I have a similar problem but this doesn't seem to be the solution.
I have pain in the muscle before the thumb, even if I play with the correct position you show in the video. However it only hurts when playing barre chords or scales on the lower strings. Even with my wrist straight (which is very uncomfortable/impossible, maybe it's because i'm very small but i've seen other small people dealing with this without any problem), I can't get rid of this pain.
If you or anyone would have any tips, it would be great. I don't think it is a medical condition either because that's the only time my thumb hurts.
where is fight fire with fire Carl!
Yes
it's here
Damn, I literally just done a gig and I had that thumb pain too. What are the odds lol
Do you have a video on barre chords? More pressure sounds good but hurts, little pressure feels good but does not sound good.
Then try twisting index finger a little bit, to press the strings with its side as well, rather than bottom only.
My thumb cramps up hard playing Lightning Crashes by Live... nearly all barre chords and it destroys my thumb from pushing down
Try a partial chord instead! Sounds great! =)
So I have small hands and it's currently hard for me to reach the lower strings without bending my hand like that. Is there a better way to do it if you've got stubby fingers?
Great question.
Mine hurts when i play bar chords. Full string bar chords. I'm trying to use my thumb less in my playing so I started practicing using my picking hand middle finger to anchor and use my thumb way less for tension on my fret hand.
That wrist down technique is actually considered proper on bass. Provides way more flexibility. Problem for me is when I'm playing a song that leaves bass players board to death, holding whole notes, my thumb starts to hurt as well. We're told not to press with our thumbs but then the neck stars going back. I cant win.
Use your forearm and hold the guitar body against your body so u don't need as much thumb pressure to stop the neck going towards you.
And what do I do If I got small hands and I have to arch my wrist like that?
How did you prevent tendonitis on the picking hand? I've been deal with that for 5 months now. Not playing the guitar for that long has put me into a mental funk.
If the pain is at the base of your thumb, you are probably just holding the pick to tight. Try to keep the amount of pressure used to a minimum. With proper picking techniques, it should take very little pressure to hold it in place.
@@GuitarLessons365 Thank you Carl! Ya it starts at the base and runs up the thumb along the outer side. I definitely have a kung fu grip on the pick since the pick usually ends up warping after a couple of weeks. I guess more rest and ice for me!
Still having problems? I wrote some posts on how I overcome severe tendinitis if you need it anymore. John Petrucci also had tendinitis in the same place as you much earlier in his playing.
Awesome, Carl!
After I'd been playing for a couple years, I started training myself to play with my left thumb on top (whenever humanly possible) for the same reason cited by Steve Vai. It looks cooler. But I noticed it made me a lot stronger and also mostly solved the sore thumb problem.
But the thumb ALWAYS comes down for barre chords. And Crazy On You pretty much kills me. Is there a solution for barre chords?
I used to get serious wankers cramp in my fretboard hand for the first twenty minutes at every gig. I started taking a magnesium tablet before gigs and never had a problem since.
I wish I could have watched this before I gave myself carpal tunnel!!!
I always have that hurt in my hand
I just saw yesterday that this channel hasn't uploaded in a few months and i seriously thought you died. 😓
You must not follow my song lesson channel 🤔
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I thought this was gonna be about hitchhikers thumb. 25% of humans have hitchhikers thumb. Why is there over 100 videos on exactly what your talking about, but nothing on most of the problems. There 3 different thumb types, and every thumb type plays differently. Why can’t we highlight these issues. I have hitchhikers thumb, but I don’t have pains in my hand, but one of my students has a ton of pain and I can’t figure out what’s going on. It’s not wrist positioning, it’s definitely a thumb problem. Thanks for nothing tho.
You must have missed the bit where he said he's not a doctor and this isn't a diagnosis.
Fucking tool.