Sig P365 380 Shooting Impressions
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- 0:00 Sig P365 380 Shooting Impressions
1:24 Starting Cold
3:15 Full Mag +1
3:58 What’s For Dinner™
12:36 Trigger Control Test
13:59 Practical Accuracy
14:57 After Shots
15:59 Thank YOU Patrons!
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The gunsmith at my local pawn shop( I have known for 20 years) sold me a used but "un-used" DPM recoil spring/guide for my 9mm. 365. He gave gave such a good deal I had to give it a shot.
It transformed the tiny pistol. I am 56yrs. old and I would not endorse this spring/guide if it did not radically reduce recoil.
@almaadams3631 yes, the DPM Systems spring kits can really change a gun.
I’m more impressed with your grouping than the gun . Looks like the P365 in 380 is a winner.
I love it when a reviewer can actually shoot well!
Haha, thank you. Ever wonder why most channel simply shoot at a wall of steel?
For much of the 2 1/2 years, I had my P365 I kept wishing it was in 380 given that it really jumped in my old disabled hands. Yesterday I traded the 9mm model for the 380 one. I was so excited when I knew the 380 was out I called my favorite gun store and reserved one with a safety. Yeah, I really prefer the safety. I am exited to be able to get out and shoot as soon as the weather will allow. I've done lots of research on 380 defensive rounds so I'm confident I can defend myself with it. I also have the EZ380 for those times when my hands are really hurting because I still want something I can defend myself with. Larger 9mm are still doable but not the micro 9s.
How’s it going with the .380? I have a XL that I’m happy with but something is drawing me towards the .380
@@northjerseykevin409 Still enjoying shooting it using Underwood Extreme Defender self-defense loads. Just added the new Ruger ReadyDot but haven't had enough trigger time to see how it works. I alternate carrying the new Equalizer in 9mm and the Sig 365-380. The Sig is so much easier to carry and shoots well. In 380 I prefer a solid copper round like the Underwood, Lehigh, or Ft Scott TUI so I don't have to wonder if the HP opens. I'll use a Federal 70gr non-lead flat nose or other flat-nose FMJ if needed. I have some Underwood 100 gr hard cast flat nose that will certainly penetrate deep enough.
I like the safety too.
I bought the Rose 380 for my wife, as I have the 365 9mm for myself. I carried it appendix with a blazer and slacks on, then in shorts, a couple days ago. Talk about lighter in weight because of the .380 ammo! Man it was super comfortable! I WANT ONE! Hell, I WANT HER’s! But of course, she’s not about to give it back!🤣🤣🤣
Lots of great support out there for the 380 ACP round. Its been around for a long time and has developed great credentials. A viable carry round in MHO.
I shot this gun a second time with some S&B FMJ .380 ammo at a ladies' class last Saturday and it shot great. Very little recoil and it felt wonderful in my hands, too. I think I'm in love, haha. It's definitely on my to-buy list now.
My main warm weather carry for the longest time was a P238, and when Sig offered the P365 in .380 acp I got one as soon as I could and I couldn't be happier.
First, I agree that this is a perfect size pistol for this round. It's actually enjoyable to shoot and I don't dread fighting recoil like I do from a micro-9. I added a Wilson Combat grip module and it feels even better. Second, the mags do get easier to load after a handful of loadings. Great review as always! Thanks for sharing!!
sig p238 is my gym shorts go to. the p238 soaks up any and all 380 recoil.
There are a few people that are using the extended 9mm magazines with great success . Helps with my pinky grip too
What made you go with the 365 .380? I also have a p238 and love it but not a fan of a safety. As much as I practice with it I’m just still not all for having a saftey on a carry pistol
What ammo do u run for self defense?
Wilson grip fit the 380? Is the 380 the same grip frame of the 365 9m? Thank you.
It’s even more fun with a xl grip module, red dot and 12 round mags.
I'm with on that. Would be like the GP P380L!
@@GBGuns it makes it shoot like a 22. Now I just need to find cheaper 380
My setup exactly.
Now with the release of the “macro”, you can even use the 17 round mags.
Is the XL grip better than the 12 round magazine on the regular grip?
I just bought a 12 round mag the grip fits great in my hand now. It fits right in between my LCP2 and my Shield Plus. Thanks for the video.
Thanks, Graham for answering the questions I had. I love your videos, man.
Your crew of 1 made an excellent video!! Gun has a great ejection!!
I love that you show what each type of bullet feels and looks like propelling from the gun! My mom is gonna need a 65 grain for sure.
Thanks for such a good video. You stayed on point the whole time...that is rare with gun videos.
I thought the p365 was really a great gun- and when I finally got the 380 version I was completely blown away- my #1 best shooter ever. That is just about all I carry now. The main thing about it- I was surprised as how easily I stayed on target, even at 30 yards!
That's more like the perfect marriage. Of Gun and Caliber. Great video!
Holy cow that was some great groups!
Really like your review format! Very informative! Thanks!
Thank you and welcome to the channel. I'm glad you like the format because this has been our protocol for hundreds of gun reviews.
GREAT review! I have been looking for one for my wife, who loves to shoot full sized 9mm, but it’s not practical for her to carry. She hasn’t liked the other offerings - even the Walther CCP. The trigger pull made her miss more than she liked.
Thank you, this was very helpful!
This is a terrific video and a great format for testing handguns. You obviously enjoyed shooting the P365 and, in the process, convinced me to purchase one.
Thank you and welcome to the channel! We've covered hundreds of pistols with this same format.
Excellent video. But I still prefer the lighter weight and thinner Glock 42 with the 6+1. I’ll carry two spare magazines, but at least the weight is distributed between two pants pockets (gun in one, spare mags in the other), instead of one pocket for the gun and it’s heavier double stack magazine. For me, the Glock 42 just feels better concealed upon the body. I don’t care about the 6+1 round capacity either, as I prefer the “minimalist’s” carry option and I just train to reload quickly. I’m not chasing down felons, so I just need a “get off me” gun.
Not to be mean but it seems you are just coping.
This for other people who stumble unto this video
Width
Glock 42 - 0.94 inch
P365-380 - 1 inch
Weight
Glock 42 - 13.76 oz
P365-380 - 15.70 oz
@@kevintran2967 Copying what????
With the g42 fully loaded, add another 1.5oz of weight to the gun. With the Sig P365 loaded with a 10+1 magazine, that adds another 2.5oz of weight to the gun. Again, the Glock 42 is a more lighter weight, thinner and comfortable gun while pocket carrying than the Sig 380.
Make a slower, less recoiling, 380 fmj for guns the size of the LCP. The hollow points don't expand with any consistency and end up over penetrating, so why not concede defeat and just go for a round that gives better accuracy with faster follow up shots?
I don’t carry a 380 for EDC, but I do own a few and fun for the range. Good information on this one 🤘
With the 10 rd mags, the P 365 is a great gun but I already own the Ruger LCP Max, Bersa Thunder, and Thunder Plus. When I get an extra $500 to blow I'll add the Sig to my collection. Good review.
Sell the bersas and try the sig 9mm. The you would have a larger 9 w sig quality, and the mico carry w the max.
What great observations! I love my SIG P365 .380, but sometimes the reviews seem not to reflect how easy it is to handle and shoot. Good work explaining the guns characteristics accurately.
Great review - thank you.
What a good review. Comparing different types of ammo is especially helpful. Thanks.
Thank you and welcome to the channel!
Love my .380s. Happy Easter 🐣
I was looking at this gun a couple of days ago. It is in the 3 at the top of my list.
Yes, I think the last time I saw one of your videos was the Walther PPK/S in .380. Very much appreciate the variety of rounds you shot in it. I will be picking up one of the newer "rainbow" titanium models just because it looks cool (and because I expect it to be very concealable for EDC and is in a proven platform with a more powerful round in 9mm). Thanks for your straightforward appraisal of the performance and your impressions. Hope you had a great Christmas and will have a very nice New Year.
Welcome back! We've reviewed a few hundred guns since that Walther video!
I'm looking for a good .380 carry gun and up until now it's been a toss-up between this Sig and a glock 42. I'm definitely leaning towards the Sig now. Thanks for a very well done no bullshit range test. Liked and subscribed.
If you are going to get a gun the size of a 9mm get a 9mm absolutely no reason for a 380 this big less effective ammo cost more. You should look a a ruger lcp max great gun at a pocket size. Glock and sig both to big for good pocket carry and if you are not thinking pocket carry get a 9mm period.
@@memberberry7139 You can't convince me I am wrong because everything I said is true and factual. I will give you that it is personal preference what works for each individual. Been in this game a long time so pretty confident in my opinion. Still would love to hear what you think I said was wrong I am open to alternate view points.
@@memberberry7139 Can sympathize with that. I am now 66 and it doesn't get any better lol. So far I am not having to many issues in that department except on long range days once I get up over 500 in a day I do get some hand pain. But like we said before that is why they make so many flavors so people can find what works for them. Happy shooting and a safe New Year.
I’ve got both the 42 and the 365 380. Love them both. The 42 is more thinner thus I carry it more. I still alternate.
You should try theRuger security 380
I know others have said this, but that was an excellent excellent video. Thank you for making it
Thank you. This is the same protocol we've used to cover hundreds of guns
Thanks for the review. Who knows, we may see 380 slides available from Sig to swap on 9mm frames. Of course they will be out of stock.
Great test sir thanks
Unless your attacker is considerable body armor, 380 should do plenty for self defense if especially if you can keep good control of your shots and where they land.
Yeah but if they are wearing body armor they are either from another country or a active shooter. In that case headshots and nut shots work fine.
@@cryptoalliance9346nut shots 😂
Someone needs to create a 15rd mag for the XL grip module that would be insane.
I love the 365 mine is in 9 mm, but I'm glad SIG made it in 380 for people that can't handle a 9 mm it's the same as with a 357 magnum and the 38 special, it comes down to personal preference.
Well done. Thanks.
I have a P365XL & the 365 380.
One cool thing is my 15 round 9mm mags will work fine in the .380.
As far as loading go, if you aren't using a Lula loader, you aren't doing it right.
With bullet weights, I have weights between 68 grains & 124 grains.
Including Underwood +P ammo.
No issue with any of them.
It's the only .380 I've shot that seems to be as reliable as a Glock 42.
I agree 380 is a fun caliber. 👍
I would love to see some Underwood fired from one of these. Greatly appreciate the review, as I am considering one for a pocket carry backup.
Great review! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼I like the Sig Sauer P320 lineup. I own a P320 X Five, which I love. But, the .380 cal is not for me; 9mm and up.
Graham, thanks for another informative video. I am trying to figure out a pistol my wife would enjoy shooting and eventually carry. We shot the P 365XL together which I own, she had a few "stovepipes" but did very well overall, but getting her to the range is like pulling teeth. (She does like 9mm PCC's) The P365 .380 might be the way to go. I have never shot that caliber before, but I keep hearing good comments about the recoil. For my wife, of the rounds you shot for "What's for dinner" in this video, which one would you recommend to her for range practice and which one for self defense? I greatly value your opinion. That is why I own a Walter PDP 5" and never looked back!
Good work.
Great review!
I just bought one!
Congrats, they're great shooters.
Thanks for this Graham! I'm considering replacing my 9mm P365 with the .380 P365.
I have some worsening medical issues that's making shooting 9mm out of the small package of the P365 pretty difficult.
The 380 version is much softer to shoot.
Congrats on 100k
Thank you! It's been a long road, but I'd rather slow and stable growth than a trendy flash and fade.
You are a good presenter and a great shot
Thank you
I really appreciate this review, my daughter bought a Bersa Thunder. 380. Will have Heather watch this . Maybe upgrade to 365 @ .380. Thanks GB . Missed your partner. The guy over your left shoulder was having an issue range day🤣
This recoils softer than the Bersa Thunder thanks to running from a locked breach
Well done, sir! I know I was talking about waiting for an extended grip model but this review has me re-thinking that idea. This seems incredibly shootable. Maybe it would be a good idea to have both a smaller P365 380 and then someday add in an “X” or “XL” model, much like I now use a P365XL in conjunction with a Kahr CW380 (also wonderfully shootable) for EDC. Heck, I might even keep the CW380 so I have the “full house” of sizes; something for every wardrobe choice!
The extended 9mm magazines are working well in these .
I find myself being a pinky strong grip so the extra 3/4” is very adaptive
Looking into one myself to match a concealed hi-point I have in .380.
@@docfischer7291 But would you trust your life to the 9mm mag? As I keep trying to post, and they keep disappearing, Sig has a new 12 round mag out for the .380. I’d get those.
@@CaveWyatt I actually have the 9mm mags for my 3895ts. No issues except for they ones that were dropped and torn up. Replaced them with new ones, lol
That little CW380 by Kahr is a hand cannon. The trigger is nice on it, but it will leap from you if your not careful lol. It conceals invisibly and is very under rated imo
@@mi777ke777 That’s not my experience and I’ve had it at least 6 years. The recoil part, I mean.
I picked mine up on Wednesday and took it for a range test yesterday. I agree, it is a delight to shoot, is accurate, and will probably replace my LCP Max as my EDC. Your reviews assisted in my buying decision.
Great job! I’m tired if the unboxing reviews, what a waste. You put the little gun to the test and wow. Nice going….
We have videos of 400+ guns tested in this same format.
Great review. Maybe 1 day Sig will offer a 380 upper. I'd buy 1 just for fun
I hope they do. Upper kit with a mag would make this a fun and easy conversion for 365 owners
Even in 9mm it's pretty soft shooting. Sig hit it out of the park with this one
When did you hit 100k subs?! Congratulations man!
Thanks, about a week ago
👏👏👏 congratulations! That’s a big deal!
Great info. I live 380 s
Nice test! Would have really liked to see the sig v crowns and underwood xtreme defender in this test too
Thank you, we only have room for 11 loads in these videos.
I'd be interested in an XL version (little longer barrel and grip) of the P365-380 for further reduced recoil, easier draw from concealment, and easier concealment appendix (yes, longer guns conceal easier).
Longer guns conceal easier ?
@@GunsWithDrum69 Short guns like G26 with extended mags are top heavy, making it lean out and requiring more care/effort/wedge to conceal. I know from experience.
@@tonyl3762 interesting 🤔
I've had some issues with Hornady Critical Defense in this gun. I think the angle of the bullet is too sharp and/or it's too short for the feed ramps and it doesn't always feed which is a shame because that's what I was planning to use and I had no issues with it in the LCP or LCP MAX.
Who are these supermen that 380 can't kill them?
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Interesting
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Thanks for the information. Would like to request a comparison between the p365 380 and the S&W 380 ez. Would be nice if the p365 had the Xgrip module and 12 380 mags. Never ending hunt for a low recoil option for my wife with neck problems. Thanks.
Might I suggest the Wilson Combat grip module with tungsten weights also? I have the XL version of this grip module for my 9mm 365x and it really helps mitigate recoil/ muzzle flip as it adds the weight to the back of the grip. It’s the best $60 (grip module) and ($20) tungsten weights I’ve spent on functional upgrades.
Very informative video. Is the slide easier to rack than the 9mm model? In other words, would it be a good alternative for someone weaker grip strength?
Yes
I finally got the chance to shoot the P365-380 alongside its 9mm counterpart yesterday. While the 9mm ran flawlessly, the .380 had several malfunctions (FTFs and FTEs, IIRC) using Ammo Incorporated 100 gr TMC. I also had problems with the .380 Shield EZ with the same ammunition. Is it true that .380 pistols tend to be more ammo-sensitive? If so, what brands/types of ammo should I look for to shoot in these guns for both practice and self-defense loads?
I think you may have a bad lot of ammo. The lore that 380s can be more sensitive might come from many 380s being direct blowback and so more sensitive to limp wristing.
how do you like it compared to the Grand Power CP380 ??
How is the size of the 365 380 compared to the Tisas Fatih?
Why not try some 380 underwood +P ? Still quite an extensive eating test, thanks for the effort involved. Liked & subscribed
Thank you and welcome to the channel. No Underwood simply because I don't have any
How does the recoil compare to the Glock 42?
Any chance you might compare it to the LCP Max? I ran a bunch of rounds out of my Max and it is a pretty well-thought-out pistol, aside from it NOT being red dot ready.
No, we don't Ruger on this channel.
@@Pler1978 I agree but it seems to be the next convenient add on to throw onto the market. First sell the base model, then the skeleton version, then one with a red dot.
Does this pistol have a safety? I can't tell.
Great option, but you're better off with 9mm if able to rack it and shoot it. For those who want a full power +P etc etc. Otherwise its an option. Thanks for all you do!🎩♠🏵🎯🏁💙💛🌻🍀
You nee to test the Beretta x80 in 380 against the Sig 365 380 we all know that the BERETTA will come out on top every time !!!!!
If I may ask, what are your favorite 9mm and 45 ACP handguns for carry? No guns built for competition please. Thank you sir. I value your opinion.
I haven't carried a .45 in years, but currently I carry a Grand Power K100 Decocker for most of the year, recently changed my lightweight carry to a modified P365XL.
@@GBGuns Thank you 🙏
.. Good review ...... put a Hogue Handall grip sleeve on it and improve grip about 50% .. .380 is a capable self defense round at self defense distances ,, not ment to be a battlefied gun ...
According to Sig's website it says the FCU of the .380 is shared with the 9mm version. So does this mean I can buy a slide with 9mm barrel, and 9mm mags and convert this to 9mm? If so I would love to buy an XL slide for this
I believe so
I heard you can interchange barrels 9mm-380. maybe the mags
The 380 mags have a space in them to prevent the shorter rounds from getting lost in a 9mm mag, but the bodies are the same.
If Sig chambers the P365 in 30 Express carry pls compare the two. I'm a big 9mm fan. But I've got this one on my radar. Will have one within 60 days. Where was Tia? Would like her thoughts! Regards, Rob, Phx., Az.
She wasn't available the day I filmed that, but gice her own thoughts in another video.
Can this gun handle Buffalo Bore ammo ?
Dislike my P365 9mm. I don't like shooting it, so I don't train with it, and don't carry it. Maybe the .380 is better but I've just decided to carry a compact instead of a sub.
That's exactly where I think Sig was trying to hit with this one.
@@GBGuns FYI, love the videos and standardized testing but still leaving room for personal feedback / opinion.
@@jimstaszko1675 Thanks. That's the goal: standardized format so YOU can judge one gun against another,, and some commentary mixed in from someone who has reviewed hundreds of guns and spent over 1,000 hours in training. Most other channels I see use different formats for each gun and provide commentary as if it is an absolute truth meanwhile having little background to base that commentary off.
@@jimstaszko1675 Like you, I don't like subcompact or micro guns. I prefer compact to medium-size to full size. Or better yet: 4" barrel lenght minimum, 4.5" is the sweet spot, 5" whenever is possible to carry.
@@v.german11b Agree, maybe .380 the sub is a little better, but damn .380 ammo is expensive and hard'ish to find. I'll stick with my Shadow Systems 920 War Poet. Even if it prints a little I'd rather carry a firearm I am proficient with.
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If you have more than 1 handgun ( more 9mm pistols) and you do your own loading you can just load lighter rounds if you are recoil shy and not have to deal with another caliber that in most cases lately is harder to find and cost more.
6:10 - Winchester Silvertip - stove pipe!
good catch!
Hank Williams Jr. has spoken.
if diameter is the same what would happen if you used the 380 mag in the 9 version?
The 380 mag appears tk be a 9mm mag with an inster in it as 380 is 2mm shorter. That means 9mm won't fit
The only thing that keeps me from buying this is the price of 380 ammo
I just learned my local range rents these. I'll suggest my wife & her sister try them. They cannot shoot my micro 9mm or micro 380. Too snappy & lots of limp-wrist failures. They hate those guns & can't rack the slides. They probably can shoot this SIG P365 380 & rack the slide.
I believe 100% that they'll have a better experience with this gun.
Was what's for dinner shot at 18 yards on Langdon targets?
7 yards on Langdon Targets
My wife new 380 in rainbow is slippery and had failure to feed and eject with hollow point every other shots. Wonder if every one experiencing the same? May be it needs breaking periods
Did you try a different kind of hollow points? Could it be that the shooter sin't supporting the gun well enough and it's short-stroking?
Do not get in a gun fight with Graham 😎
Haha, I have had a bit of training.
When brand new it shoots great with FMJ ball ammo but has failure to feed with defense loads. Probably just needs a break in period. Hmmm, didn't have ANY reliability issues with ANY type of ammo with a brand new Glock 42. 🤔 🤷
You saw it. We don't do remakes and don't script. But with the Glock 42 all you have is a Glock...
Mine wont feed hollow points without hanging up every 3 or 4 rounds
Seems to be a little break-in period with this gun
Liberty started making trainer ammo?
They have for years
Bonm yonn
Interesting take on the 365, but to get the .380 to perform, you need the “spicier” loadings. I think the 9mm is the way to go and should be the bare minimum for self defense. I still have a preference for the compact handgun chambered in .40 “strong and wonderful.” 😏
At 6:11 we saw the failure to eject big guy and you tried to hide it and not share it I been seen a lot of videos of this particular gun and it Malfunction like the Fireflie 22lr 🤮and you knew the sig365 380 has a lot of misfiring and that’s why you only did three shots for different ammunition because if you do the 10 you’ll have at least 5 misfiring out 10
At 6:36 I noticed it little man and commented on it. This is an unsposored, unpaid channel. The reason for three rounds is explained at the start of every WFD segment, but additionally is the fact that we can't afford the time or ammo to burn a box of everything, it's a simple test to get a general idea. Pay more attention and you'll embarass yourself less.
@@GBGuns I been working nonstop until I saw ur comment but reading ur comment sounds like ur mad at the world I think is cause u can get it up old man 👴🏻
How i wish it's a double stock
It is, of sorts
3 round per ammo types is not enough to learn anything. I put 75 rounds of hornady critical defense though mine with 3 failure to feeds. Getting ready to test more ammo types to see what will work as a reliable self defense round for me.
We have not the time, funding, or audience for us to run 75 rounds of ten different loads through the hundreds of guns we review. It sounds like you may have a magazine issue.
Calling the .380 "American 9mm" lol This would help the rising poularity of the 380 even more😂
That's essentially what it is, Browning's response to Luger's cartridge.
@@GBGuns No it wasnt a response. Than rather the 9 mm Browning Long.
9mm Luger was created 7 years before 380 ACP
@@GBGuns The 9mm Browning Long also came after 9x19. 380 was designed for pocket guns from the beginning. Not for service size pistols like the 9x19. But the 9mm Browning Long was designed for service size pistols and ist 9x20.
That's also a dead cartridge. 380 has effectively become the American 9mm
There are reasons few shoot .380 much
I have small hands like Tia. Let me know how she likes it.
I think you should run 10 of each round. Dont think you're not getting true results
Maybe someday we'll have the financial support to do that, but that's out of our budget currently.