Reminds me of a quote I saw once: "If you spend your time chasing butterflies, they'll fly away. But if you spend your time building a beautiful garden, the butterflies will come. And if they don't, you still have your beautiful garden."
Sitting alone in that beautiful garden doesn't seem nice to me. Actually, not 'seem', but 'is'. I háve a beautiful garden. It attracts butterflies, but no girls.
@@JohnPickup-CDHS-ze6qd Pepperidge farms ain’t gonna keep it to Pepperidge farms self free of charge. Maybe you buy some of our cookies and this whole this just disappears.
Given Derek, an average looking guy, said he got 7 to 12 matches per day... that's hardly evidence of the black pill. Had Derek got zero to 5 matches in three months...that's proof of a black pill reality. This video is the complete opposite of black pill.
@@YTguySmithy-lk6goI just started the video, I dont know what pictures he put up or what country he is from. First: He is definitely above average, definitely Second: He probably had good pictures, okay bio Third: I dont know the country he is from yet, but the country where I am, the average and even above average guys get 1 match a month.
yea, I checked out of dating. maybe if I meet someone in person, but nah, I aint doing any online shiiiiit. dating to marry in this culture sucks man. i really like your last point about stopping the chase and taking time to think about the kinda woman you wanna marry, and becoming the kind of man that SHE would want
I met a girl like this, she was talking to multiple other guys and kept making it seem like she was interested. In my experience, most women my age act high schooly. That said I still hear rumors that she never did get over it as we had a one-night stand.
Rather talk to women in real life buddy and hit the gym get ur style up ur money up ur confidence. It's an actual date that u on . U will see they won't reject u
@@jaundremarais8787 They might "reject" you in that you think it's a rejection, but they're actually just testing you. It's immature, but it happens, see above.
@KRYMauL bro I said when u talk to a women in real life it's an actual date coz u like what u see . U can go interact and make new friends all that she can say is she does have a bf. But this will boost ur communication skills !!! Or u can just stay on dating apps and wish or hope for match from a fat overweight ugly single mom who is playing games with u . In real life a women will never b rude with u .she will still tell u politely she does have sum1 . Unless she's a total bitter asshole
Bro, hostess at a restaurant asked me to take her number, we grabbed coffee the next day. The following day this b said she needed a new winter coat and asked if I wanted to buy it for her 😂
The biggest problem is that a lot of low value women now believe they deserve a high value man due to all this attention. I've seen women with 3+ kids, no degree, low income job talking about wanting a 1% man.
Yeah dating apps have made some women very entitled.. Because they get so many matches and men outnumber women by a significant margin in almost all of them. It makes sense to be picky of course, but within your means.
A woman that was about 40 years old, “Indian” but looked Italian. Location “Orlando, Florida” said she earns a lot of money, business owner, and is looking for a Multimillionaire to marry to “split the bills” 😂. Explicitly stated “no offense” to other men but it is what it is. The confidence on that woman was BIZARRE. Conservation went like: Me: The odds of getting a rich man is very low. Her: You never now Me: It’s too late now, you should have gotten that rich dude in your 20’s! Her: 🤬🤬😡😡😡😡 She was angry
Yeah, exactly right man. Low value women looking for something they don't deserve, and 99% of them on dating apps are a real life mess. Social media has destroyed everything.
The best is when you're messaging a girl on a dating app and she asks for your instagram, sees that you don't have a lot of followers and then ghosts you.
@@Dereksilver0 Happens to me a lot. I think it's because they either think we're losers with no friends, or they think that we are cheating on our gfs and that's why we won't give out the IG.
@@Dereksilver0 there was a time 10 years when having IG was a red flag cuz the guy would be following other girls. If he didn’t have IG, that meant he wasn’t looking at girls on there 😅
I don't have any accounts in dating apps or social media at all, but this stuff unfortunately leaks into real life as well, because so many people use this trash.
A lot of these problems are actually because of men. Women desire attention. Men these days throw it out non-stop (Social media, simping, OF, etc). Stop giving attention to people who don't deserve it and learn to walk away the second you're disrespected.
This will never happen as sex is wanted by every man and they're always ready to do anything possible just to get sex! This is why men rape and pay for onlyfans as they want sex but they're unable to get attention and this market is never going to die. You can just remove these guys from being called men but they're still men in the eyes of the world
Kinda betmale white knight comment though. Although you're partially right even the guy who said "I dont' blame them" is a being a white knight cuck because in the end women need to take accountability for their actions too and with this mindset, how will they ever do that if men are saying it's okay or ultimately that it's our fault? lol If I had 100 options, I'd def go with the one who with the best personality but that's just me.
If men were being chased like the majority of women are, there wouldn't be a problem. The men are not asking for ridiculous expectations like 6 ft, six figures and a six pack. Men are more family driven, that's why when we make more money we say now I can start a family. "Women:" Now I have to find someone that makes more money than me. Men don't care if the woman comes from nothing. It's clear 70 to 80 percent of divorces are initiated by women. This is why only 6 out of 1000 men are getting married these days.
Dating apps don't work anymore you have to pay for everything, and I personally can't meet any in person because I'm not outgoing and confident enough.
@@Someguy0525 Confidence comes from getting rejected over and over funny enough. Fear of rejection is much greater than the rejection itself. And alcohol always works.
I think that something that is overlooked a lot by us men is realizing when it's time to put yourself in situations where you'll be able to meet girls that have similar interests as yourself. I'm a 26yo with 2 jobs with a great income, athletic, with friends, savings, mature, outgoing and easygoing but I've been so focused on bettering myself that I didn't even look for dating opportunities because I thought the "right one" would just fall in my arms. Like everything in life, if you want it, go and get it. So this year I'm getting into dance and cooking classes, boxing gym, going on trips, maybe a running group...and yeah some dating apps here and there but put yourself in situations where you'll have the opportunity to meet someone that has similar interests as you, this makes the approach much more natural.
Just a heads up, all those classes and activities you are planning on joining are going to have signs up and maybe even make you sign something that says you understand this is not the place to try to meet women and get dates.
@@Jeremy-ql1or well the same can be said about dating apps in terms of sign-up fees if you really want them to "work" and at the end of the day you're really just throwing money at the wall and seeing if it sticks. Yeah I might pay 100$ for dance classes and I might not meet a girl but at least I still get a return on my investment because I'll know how to dance and that could give me more opportunities. As for the waiver, I mean you shouldn't go do an activity with the soul purpose of approaching woman, you should have an actual interest in the activity, you'll come out more genuine and in the example of dance classes, physical contact is kind of mandatory so might as well start talking with who you're dancing with. My point is just to put yourself in the right environment to meet the type of person you want.
Out of all videos based on this topic, this is the best. You've covered nearly everything and made it so well said. I think another video idea would be visually showcasing the results girls get on these apps, like what sort of dudes are matching them, etc, like the things you mentioned in this video that you saw in the experiment. Also maybe another video discussing some solutions we can do to better navigate this modern online dating world, if any.
Tbh he's very average. I'm actually very surprised he had matches. I'm Asian and average like him, no matches, maybe 1 from a bot. Yet this guy got a boat load of matches. He must live in some very liberal place like Canada.
they will choose a 9/10 chad out of their 200 daily matches, get railed and dumped then complain on reddit how all the men just want sex and abuse them. LMAO
What shocks me everytime, is that there still are more men than women on dating apps. Speaking about guys checking out. Not really. Simping should be considered a crime
5’9” and girls ask me out in real life. It got me thinking I was good-looking. In reality, I’m like a 6/10. Zero matches. I got 2 likes from one trashy looking girl and one super ugly girl.
Love this video mate. So I also conducted a similar experiment with a 9/10 white male model and a 9/10 white female model. The female model got 100 likes a day for 5 days straight The male model averaged 2-5 likes a day. The crazier part was that the white male model did very similar to me, which was actually a massive confidence boost. That being said, I’ve still struggled to find anything meaningful on the apps x
Woman that are looking for meaningful relationships have just as hard a time as men finding them. I've always heard that more men than women go on the dating sites, and that's part of the reason that women get so much more attention. Plus, like the guy acknowledged, it's part of male nature to pursue. I was a young looking, slim and a bit above average mid 40's women when I last was online. I got lots of mail and clicks and all that, but a heck of a lot was younger men looking for a cougar hookup. So many guys would send likes instead of message, or attempt to chat. Then there was lots of creepy guys just looking to get laid and wanting video hookups and sexting kind of correspondence. Lots of players, lots of too bold and no sense w/ women. It wasn't about money or the best looking or best resources. I wanted an average guy who had a healthy idea about women, dating and relationships. That was still pretty hard to find. I made a few friends that would ask my advice and help, and was ready to just delete my account in defeat, when a sweet, awkward and shy man, that still had confidence and knew that he wanted to settle down came along and was persistent and consistent enough to get me to date him.
@@saintejeannedarc9460 Women who look for meaningful relationships on OLD also fish for the best value man. I very recently went out with someone who wanted to take it slow and build a relationship, which I was 100% on board with as I'm not the type to take pleasure in chasing. The date went extremely well, our lifestyles were very similar, our passions were 1:1. We even set up a second date afterwards. Not even a week later (3-4 days after the date), she sends a message telling me she found someone better. Capitalism and internet technology has corrupted the concept of love and courtship, both of which require time. Everything is taken as face value. Nobody has the patience to know a person properly. They look at the appearances (looks, hobbies, lifestyle) and make their judgement after the first 3-5 hours of knowing the person.
I got ghosted for 4 years. Never even got a coffee date. I got muscular and had 8 dates scheduled within a week of updating my photos. People like to then say that the apps are a looks contest. That didn't stop the executive HR lead at the billion dollar company I work for touch me in the elevator. She broke all the rules - an executive, the lead HR person for 20+ years. Been at the company since it was 4 people. Women will treat you like a king if you are attractive. Only men who have known the opposite and got there will understand. If you aren't attractive you get treated like garbage, like you don't exist or that your existence is an inconvenience.
Correct. I've always been told I'm attractive by women but I recently got in the best shape of my life. I'm 45. I'm getting more stares, smiles and attention from random women (especially young women) than I did in my 20s and 30s.
@@PB22559Great that you can see a difference even in your experience. Just imagine how life changing it is for a man who has known nothing but body language signs of disgust, discomfort, etc just at your presence. Not only body language but little to no communication, and low quality communication if there is any at all. Its just how the world works.
@@PB22559And people in the West _hoo_ and _haw_ and wonder why ultra-patriarchal cultures exist. Many times you really can't take the average woman seriously
People too afraid to get rejected in person nowadays, sadly 🙃 I blame social media for changing that mindset of online presence vs going outside and talking to someone. 🙃
Great discussion big dawg. As an average man in the USA, I will give 0 attention/validation to these modern women. Whether its online or in person they just don't deserve my money, time, or personal feelings. I found a passion in traveling the world, pretty soon I will be in country # 20( not a passport bro!). In addition I focus on growing my business, reading, hitting the gym, being healthy, becoming the best version of myself. Whether or not women show interest, I am happy being single and accomplishing my personal goals!
You telling the truth man these women in America aitn shit it's time to move on get a woman that not only looks good but has the drive to build with you, good personality and loves you for you unlike these American women.
there's also a phenomena where the more options you're given the more you regret the decision you made -- with the grape jam example, with only 2 options you would feel confident in your choice -- with 200 options, once you finally make your decision, after a while you will begin to regret it and think the grass is greener with one of the other options you didn't pick
Women can get 12 messages per day from different guys and one can be more richer, prettier, older or younger than the other one. There is literally no reason for them to ever stop this train until looks will fade
Totally agree with all your points. The only way to solve this dating market in balance is wait for realistic AI female robots to come out, so they all the men who cannot s3x/intimacy will be able to, and women will not be given all this free attention/validation/money and will actually lower their standards and have to put in effort to compete for men.
The reason why that is such a stupid idea is because its a band aid cure for a problem thats *a gaping wound!* which is the lack of genuine, real, human companionship. No AI sex bot will ever be able to recreate that. Wishing for robots is just a losers way to cope. Its basement dweller mentality. The real solution to the dating problem is societal. Bring back two parent homes, that wont leave children traumatized leading them to be promiscuous as adults. Champion modesty morals & values again as a society and shame & destroy any kind of sexual degenerate media/ideologies. This is a good start. Remember, women werent naturally like this. They were brainwashed into being like this through media indoctrination. Brainwashing that became twice as strong because they already came from traumatized childhoods in single mother households where those single mothers were also traumatized and brainwashed themselves (Which is often the reason they pushed the father out of the home in the first place) Address those two things and we’re well on our way to being back on track. Sadly though, thats not the agendas plans. So its only going to get worse. But sex bots wont solve shit, as We cant undo our biology and every human being wants true genuine love & companionship.
The whole idea behind PUA is that you start focusing on yourself, the problem is most dating advice comes down to not talking to the other sex just focusing on yourself. Also, dating apps want you to be single, so you can keep using them.
Idk, my viewpoint is a little different. I mostly ONLY date women who message me first or show very high interest, but most women I’ve met in dating apps have problems, low self esteem, BPD, baby daddies that make so they have to sneak talk to me, that’s why I don’t reccomend it. Luckily I happened to find a regular women on there, her only baggage is she’s been cheated on but it’s starting to come together now, hopefully
What I've learned throughout my life is that the current dating culture can be compared to the chicken or the egg analogy. Most men learn simping from how they grew up, usually by a single mother. And we base our dating choices (subconsciously) from our mother. Because she was your blueprint on how you love because she loves you. So you look for your mother in your partner. Most guys nowadays had no father, no one to model masculinity and therefore adopt a feminine approach when it comes to mate selection. Your mother and most influences in your younger years are FEMALE, so they tell you how to woo a girl based on how THEY would've wanted the men they were attracted to (bad boys), to woo them (tell her she's beautiful, buy roses, etc). Problem is, the bad boys pumped and dumped and they ended up a single mother, now she raises you to be what he was never for her.... chicken or the egg. Then the cycle continues to where now society is so flipped, generations of boys grew up with no father... Add in the advent of technology and now you have the perfect storm.
females with no father want someone cold, abusive and pretending like he doesn't want her, once he changes his behavior her dopamine rush ends and she hops on another one
I know that this isn't going to happen, but I wish dating apps would be 100% banned in the United States. They are causing people's self image to be vastly overinflated, and the worst part is that it translates into the real world.
Yes, I agree. 14-year relationship, 8 year marriage ended in part because of the attention my ex-wife was getting just on IG. Between that, the highest dose of SSRIs, and constant reality TV, her sense of self went to the moon, and then she filed like 2 months ago. We are in our mid 30s and just got a 500k house and pool a couple of years ago. It's bullshit man. Poisoned society. I'm higher status too, just not high enough...and I'm only 5'10 and really good looking, instead of 6'2" and extremely good looking lmao. "I'm never dating someone under 6' again," said the girl that is 5'2". Fml
You're absolutely right, although i live in Russia i am currently facing exactly the same situation as you and i came to the same conclusions as you: 1) stop chasing 2) self improvement (nowadays I'm working on my physic in the gym + growing beard with your American minoxidil + mewing etc.) I think the main point is to never give up so that one day you can see the results of hard work.
Never improve yourself to get or impress women. Do It for yourself. If your going out of your way for a woman you won't find the right one. And dating apps just go on looks nothing else anyway.
The height thing is a weird modern issue. I’m not even short but it’s so off putting. You will be talking with a girl for days and right before the date 50% of them will ask me how tall I am. I know if I was short they would just cancel the date, and these are girls who have invested time talking to me not girls I just opened.
You hit it out of the park with your description and prescription of/for dating apps and women. Every average dude needs to watch this and need the advice you give
Good video! Made me finally realise that these apps are a waste of my time. I got convinced I should join and I was very active for a while, and I did get a handful of matches but all went nowhere. So from now on I'll just put all the eggs into approaches and going to fun events to meet potential women, I'm done with these apps, and not just dating apps, I mean it's all just pixles on a screen, not real life.
Thank you so much for making this video. I had the same experience on those apps, and really felt terrible not only about myself but also about women in general. Only after quitting those apps I realized, neither I am so bad nor are women in general. Its just the nature of the beast that those apps create in the heads of both and women. The longer that beast has lived in someone's head, the more hard it would do to that person. Another thing I can relate with you was the short attention span of women on those apps. A person like me who takes one or two days to respond to text messages anyway can never survive in such an environment. Those apps are good only for those top 10% men, but for the rest of us mere mortals its terrible !
As a 28 year old average-slightly above average guy I agree with you. What women will have pain realizing in the next 10-15 years is that looks fade and a hookup and a man wanting to invest in you long term are twl different things...
Dude I was a serial dater in apps. I had dozens of matches in a short time span. With that being said. 0 matches is a blessing it saved you from head ache and heartache and and possibly an std or an unwanted pregnancy.
Idk what to think of the modern dating scene. There’s too much conflicting info coming from all sorts of different angles and our individual experiences either validate or discredit whatever discourse
That's good to be dubious about what you're being told online. Watch out for the supposed red pill sites, because they are really black pill. You're going to hear the worst of the worst about women, and these are jaded and bitter men. Of course we're all sick of feminism, but try to balance your views by looking at the other side and listening to women and what they are looking for and their issues too. It's always best to get a balance. The truth is somewhere in between. I found the worst first date story clips had interesting stories. Most the really bad stories were from women and it reminds you of what women truly are dealing w/, which is definitely not what the red pill guys are mostly saying.
@@128scalps Im photogenic & I have a good body physique since I been hitting the gym for 3 years. My face is very average. Im above average height. Hispanic male. Some woman who are interested will be down too hook up.
Thanks for speaking up for men and viewing society through an honest lens! First video I'm seeing of yours, but your content is very much needed 🙏🏽 Men and women need to open their eyes to the truth of dating
Wow, I agree with your video so much! I also think if you have to entertain women on apps and pull levers in a particular way just to keep their attention, you were never compatible to begin with, especially if they always have other options available. I don’t even think it’s worth trying to “game” the system to get more matches - you’re probably going to be wasting your time anyway. Too many options = inflated sense of their own self-importance. I believe it comes down to these exploitative dating app companies - they’re the problem.
Basically all you said I figured out a fewe months back. Especially the competition I think is the root of the problem. Right now you easily compete against thousands of people in you live in a city.
I'd say I'm definitely average. 5 foot 7, no abs, 165lbs, round face, exercise regularly in spring/summer but go into a laze/hibernation for fall/winter. Ended up joining the army, and I'd say that was very likely the only reason I got an uptick in matches from maybe one or two to at most 5 to a dozen on any given dating app, and still being only average looking. You hit the nail on the head with this vid - from the double standards to the lying about how much looks genuinely matter and subsequent overinflated emphasis people put on looks, whether men or women. *Everyone* seems to want the 9 or 10/10 matches in looks, and no one seems happy/content with the simply average demographic, which is a huge part of the problem. Doesn't help that *every* dating nowadays is pretty much tailored to keeping people lonely with their algorithms purposely keeping all the eye-candy profiles at the forefront while Joe/Jane Schmo is left to wither. Nor does it help that people purposely self sabotage themselves by staying unhealthy whether physically or mentally, surround themselves with yes-men/women and then wonder why others don't like them. Dating would be far, far simpler if PC culture didn't go overboard by invading personal lives to the point where we all now live in HR world. Can't ask a woman out in public anywhere anymore because it's now an "over-stepping of boundaries" which leaves it all up to the women, who by sheer numbers/statistics aren't going to ask men out. Whether its asking out a co-worker, approaching someone at bars/clubs or even walking dogs. Then again the kind of people trying to find love at bars/clubs highly likely aren't the kind of people to find solace in long-term relationships with in the first place, but that's neither here nor there. Dating apps became the norm, and it shouldn't be that way. Thanks, PC culture and SJW's. Real bang-up job. And thx Silver for this vid.
Dating apps are not the wave. Originally for hookups taken over by desperate women seeking relationships and then demonized it. Live in the physical world, work on yourself, enjoy your peace. Because even if you do get a match and go on a date they might not be it. Expanding your circle is a great way to find someone.
Silverwolf to be honest I've given up with dating I can't pretend to be a guy I am not to entertain a girl with an ego issue who doesn't even know what her true value is I do want a girlfriend but at this point I accepted I can't comepete with a tall dark and handsome guy who can just hit her up anytkme of the day I have no idea how people are insecure 24/7 when it comes to their relationships even can cheat thanks to online dating
The best ‘luck’ I had on dating apps was when I was mean to a girl because I didn’t like her and thought she was an arrogant prick. She talked to me more than anyone. Makes no sense. Literally the girl I didn’t like that I treated like crap liked me.
They are being turn on by abusing behavior because of the experience in the past with father or other boys, then they will ask to do non consensual stuff roleplay
I am on a huge grind. End goal is to bench 265lbs at 165lbs bodyweight. As Derek says... the less you care the better it is. Focus on your goals and magic will happen.
Don't relate to this at all. To me it's not worth it. If you're not happy, just don't date. I gave up on finding anyone with similar core values more than a decade ago. Tried going on dates exactly 3 times before that, then quit. If you keep failing, but repeat the same motions regardless, well, you know how it goes, insanity and all that.
@@gregkareem9824 It's that important? The comment wouldn't have made much sense if I was in my teens or twenties after all. I'm 36 now. Stopped dating around 23 or 24 I think.
@@ryancarrel5191 If anything it's intended to be liberating. I have absolutely no regrets. Sorry if you didn't get that, but that's you reading into it.
Everything you say is so true. But damn. As a 38 yo guy who is starting over dating, going back on the online dating apps and dealing with all of this makes me want to vomit
I'm so sick of hearing from the passport bros. They think all the women in their country are trash, but that's because they have impossibly high standards. They complain about women just being after money. What do they think they are getting when they go to a third world country, where a woman is willing to date outside her race and culture (which is frowned upon over there)? It used to be pathetic to get a mail order bride, which is pretty much what they are doing.
Stumbled onto this video… I met my girl at a party 14 years ago. Still together today. For the most part we are happy together, yes we have arguments, and disagreements, but we are able to “talk” to each other, and work out our differences. We don’t even share a lot of interests, and are very much opposites of each other, and I think that’s partly why it works..Hopefully we are together forever. Get out there and find your match IRL. Your chances are much higher. No confidence? Find some! If you have no confidence, you will NEVER get her. Good luck.
Not completely screwed, just significantly more challenging especially on dating apps. Within your local communities probably a bit better depending where you live but still more challenging lol, dont give up
@@kendralhunt4296 becoming handsome is impossible if you weren't born with good enough (note: good enough =/= good looking) starting facial features. plastic surgery ain't magic, yo.
@@mssn3166 "But it matters for us ladies cos we want our kids to be tall. 6 ft ++ is perfect." Then a lot of you are going to be in harems with an average of six other women because only 1 in 7 guys are 6' or taller.
@@Jeremy-ql1or my minimum is 5.10 though. If past a certain age, 5.9 but I’m aiming for 5.10, 6 and + is perfect. I’ve met guys who have the height I like
What you say about most matches not leading to anything is so true and kills my motivation to use the apps every time. For a guy I have an okay match rate but 99% of my matches don't message me first and if they do it's just a 'hey' so I have to figure out how to carry a conversation with all of them and then like 90% of the girls I message stop replying :D. Think I need to do what you do and not take it too seriously because right now I have 16 matches I haven't messaged and 46 potential matches on Hinge because I worry too much that if my messages aren't perfect they'll stop replying. :(
a female friend of mine made the offer a while ago to make a tinder account at the same time and leave it over night. The next morning she had 1400 likes against my 50 as a man.
Im indian too. I got about 50 matches in the first month on tinder when I moved to a new city just outside of Houston, TX in the beginning of December. If you would have told me I would get this, I would have said thats awesome! A few girls even opened. What came out of it? All ghosted after a while or when I suggested a date. 0 dates as of March 2024. Im 6'1'' and used a shirtless pic for the first pic (im in good shape with a six pack). Now the matches are slowing down and its pretty much over. Ive given up. Unless a girl messages/opens first in person or online with high enthusiasm, Im done pursuing. Im focusing on intimidation maxxing now for life in general and trying to get as jacked as possible to at least be physically dominating in public to show all the people that think indians are weak and feeble that if they fuck with me, they'll get beat up. It is what it is and life goes on...
@@VR-oy3fu how a currycel like you gets matches in the first place, except for with your own race, is beyond my understanding. I'm saying this as a brown rice-cel
I am a 6' 2" white male that was making over 100k and I had to take a project in Mexico to find a wife. They cheated on me constantly. They were boring, dull, with a really low IQ. Meanwhile, they all thought they were straight 10s. This was nearly 2 decades ago... I feel bad for guys now. Holy crap.
Online dating brutal. I know my worth, I know my preference, Im not gonna going on dates with girls im not interested in and Im not going to pursue girls who dont appreciate my attention. I didnt consider myself average buuut after a month on the app..thats what I am. I havent used dating apps for 8 years and I felt a significant drop in mood after I got on, I never imagined it would be this bad.
online dating is fkd up, better to approach in real life that is what i learned. Most guys don't approach girls in public anymore so you got a big advantage over guys on dating apps and social media
thats actually true; with the rise of social media and technology, people would much rather dm or message from the comfort behind a screen than actually go up to a girl
As a girl on dating apps I am tired of the amount of time being asked if I want to hookup. My likes might be alot but most of them do not want to date me or get to know me as a person.They're making feel like I am a protistute and unworthy of love. But yeah I agree when a guy show off a bit too strong especially when we only chatted for a few hours, I would be turn off as well.I have a guy who said he wanted to marry me although we never met...
I think that's because of redpill content. According to redpill content creators, going on dates is for "betas" and that women only want free meals and free attention on dates. They also teach that women don't need to go on dates for the men they're truly attracted to. She'll come over to your place if she wants you, no need for dating. Some of this is kind of true, as I've experience this myself. But I know not all women behave like this.
@@ramalellison9205 it’s called not being a 10 and my best conversation I’ve had have been by being mean then nice then mean somehow that gets numbers and snaps and IG
Reminds me of a quote I saw once:
"If you spend your time chasing butterflies, they'll fly away.
But if you spend your time building a beautiful garden, the butterflies will come.
And if they don't, you still have your beautiful garden."
thats actually a really beautiful quote, definitely gonna remeber that one
Sitting alone in that beautiful garden doesn't seem nice to me. Actually, not 'seem', but 'is'. I háve a beautiful garden. It attracts butterflies, but no girls.
@@athgowla687a garden for girls is a ferrari and a diamond chain
@@athgowla687 idk if you already did but try to pray about it.
@@user-eh7fb5yo9fThoughts and prayers. If it works equally as it doesn't for victims of mass shootings...
100% of women today want the same men. Top 1%.
Soon it will be .00001
@@KyxLimitlessSoon? It already is mate.
read my comment! yup agreed.
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And they cry to be cheated by the top1%... 😂
hey, remember when dating someone online was considered weird and creepy? Pepperidge farmer remembers.
I think mainstream feminism thinks dating apps are safer for women somehow.
@noobsmoke79 It's not that it's safe. It gives women more control over men.
Okcupid in 2015 was the shit. Was getting tons of dates easily
😂😂 Pepperridge farm
Remember when you hit that guy in your car and just drove off?
@@JohnPickup-CDHS-ze6qd Pepperidge farms ain’t gonna keep it to Pepperidge farms self free of charge. Maybe you buy some of our cookies and this whole this just disappears.
This has a very comfy vibe for what is essentially a black pill video lmao
lmao actually i can see that
Given Derek, an average looking guy, said he got 7 to 12 matches per day... that's hardly evidence of the black pill.
Had Derek got zero to 5 matches in three months...that's proof of a black pill reality. This video is the complete opposite of black pill.
@@YTguySmithy-lk6go how many of those matches led to dates?
And how many of those dates were marriage material?@@EpicMinecraftFail
@@YTguySmithy-lk6goI just started the video, I dont know what pictures he put up or what country he is from.
First: He is definitely above average, definitely
Second: He probably had good pictures, okay bio
Third: I dont know the country he is from yet, but the country where I am, the average and even above average guys get 1 match a month.
2 years straight dating apps all closed. Say goodbye.
Dang how much did it cost yoh im curious
@@brandonsupreme8380 I hardly spent over 100 for 3 years before I closed. Most I join are free.
@@brandonsupreme8380 I didn't spend too much because none of them reply back.
if relationships cant be formed from dating apps how are we supposed to find a gf
@brandonsupreme8380 don't remember. I didn't spend much due to most don't match with me.
yea, I checked out of dating. maybe if I meet someone in person, but nah, I aint doing any online shiiiiit. dating to marry in this culture sucks man. i really like your last point about stopping the chase and taking time to think about the kinda woman you wanna marry, and becoming the kind of man that SHE would want
yeah its kind of like im good off the modern dating scene but still idealistic about love through building myself up
I met a girl like this, she was talking to multiple other guys and kept making it seem like she was interested. In my experience, most women my age act high schooly. That said I still hear rumors that she never did get over it as we had a one-night stand.
Rather talk to women in real life buddy and hit the gym get ur style up ur money up ur confidence. It's an actual date that u on . U will see they won't reject u
@@jaundremarais8787 They might "reject" you in that you think it's a rejection, but they're actually just testing you. It's immature, but it happens, see above.
@KRYMauL bro I said when u talk to a women in real life it's an actual date coz u like what u see . U can go interact and make new friends all that she can say is she does have a bf. But this will boost ur communication skills !!! Or u can just stay on dating apps and wish or hope for match from a fat overweight ugly single mom who is playing games with u .
In real life a women will never b rude with u .she will still tell u politely she does have sum1 . Unless she's a total bitter asshole
Pornography is "free", but you pay with your soul.
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So corny 😂😂😂
@@jonathanjohnson9611 okay gooner
@@jonathanjohnson9611beat your meat lose your vitality
You actually pay with money.
Bro, hostess at a restaurant asked me to take her number, we grabbed coffee the next day. The following day this b said she needed a new winter coat and asked if I wanted to buy it for her 😂
💀how bad was she 👀
@@Dereksilver0 Not bad enough 😎
Bruh
Women love to do this mess. Lmfao it’s like naw? Who do you think I am? 😂
Tell her after 6 hours of bedroom fun.
The biggest problem is that a lot of low value women now believe they deserve a high value man due to all this attention. I've seen women with 3+ kids, no degree, low income job talking about wanting a 1% man.
Yeah dating apps have made some women very entitled.. Because they get so many matches and men outnumber women by a significant margin in almost all of them. It makes sense to be picky of course, but within your means.
A woman that was about 40 years old, “Indian” but looked Italian. Location “Orlando, Florida” said she earns a lot of money, business owner, and is looking for a Multimillionaire to marry to “split the bills” 😂. Explicitly stated “no offense” to other men but it is what it is. The confidence on that woman was BIZARRE.
Conservation went like:
Me: The odds of getting a rich man is very low.
Her: You never now
Me: It’s too late now, you should have gotten that rich dude in your 20’s!
Her: 🤬🤬😡😡😡😡
She was angry
Yeah, exactly right man. Low value women looking for something they don't deserve, and 99% of them on dating apps are a real life mess. Social media has destroyed everything.
@@sselemaNrM they have always been entitled they are now just more open about it
@@lionedheart hence why most men are retreating to video games and masturbation
The best is when you're messaging a girl on a dating app and she asks for your instagram, sees that you don't have a lot of followers and then ghosts you.
broo i literally talk about the same thing in my video about loneliness; ive had girls ghost when i tell them i dont have ig 💀
@@Dereksilver0 Happens to me a lot. I think it's because they either think we're losers with no friends, or they think that we are cheating on our gfs and that's why we won't give out the IG.
Had a date with a girl and she said she almost didnt meet me because she thought it was creepy that I only had 25 followers.
Bruuuutal
@@Dereksilver0 there was a time 10 years when having IG was a red flag cuz the guy would be following other girls. If he didn’t have IG, that meant he wasn’t looking at girls on there 😅
Get off of social media and dating apps immediately. Go outside and do what you love. Social media and dating apps can be toxic.
I don't have any accounts in dating apps or social media at all, but this stuff unfortunately leaks into real life as well, because so many people use this trash.
A lot of these problems are actually because of men.
Women desire attention. Men these days throw it out non-stop (Social media, simping, OF, etc). Stop giving attention to people who don't deserve it and learn to walk away the second you're disrespected.
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This will never happen as sex is wanted by every man and they're always ready to do anything possible just to get sex! This is why men rape and pay for onlyfans as they want sex but they're unable to get attention and this market is never going to die. You can just remove these guys from being called men but they're still men in the eyes of the world
Kinda betmale white knight comment though. Although you're partially right even the guy who said "I dont' blame them" is a being a white knight cuck because in the end women need to take accountability for their actions too and with this mindset, how will they ever do that if men are saying it's okay or ultimately that it's our fault? lol If I had 100 options, I'd def go with the one who with the best personality but that's just me.
100%
If men were being chased like the majority of women are, there wouldn't be a problem. The men are not asking for ridiculous expectations like 6 ft, six figures and a six pack. Men are more family driven, that's why when we make more money we say now I can start a family. "Women:" Now I have to find someone that makes more money than me. Men don't care if the woman comes from nothing. It's clear 70 to 80 percent of divorces are initiated by women. This is why only 6 out of 1000 men are getting married these days.
online dating scene now is not real.
IRL dating is a scam too
I completely gave up and officially retired from dating. It’s such a bunch of bullshit
fax 💯‼️‼️‼️
What exactly have you tried that hasn’t worked?
Dating apps don't work anymore you have to pay for everything, and I personally can't meet any in person because I'm not outgoing and confident enough.
@@Someguy0525 Confidence comes from getting rejected over and over funny enough. Fear of rejection is much greater than the rejection itself. And alcohol always works.
@@zuesjackrussell9675 Rejection is the worst thing when you have low self esteem lol.
I think that something that is overlooked a lot by us men is realizing when it's time to put yourself in situations where you'll be able to meet girls that have similar interests as yourself.
I'm a 26yo with 2 jobs with a great income, athletic, with friends, savings, mature, outgoing and easygoing but I've been so focused on bettering myself that I didn't even look for dating opportunities because I thought the "right one" would just fall in my arms. Like everything in life, if you want it, go and get it. So this year I'm getting into dance and cooking classes, boxing gym, going on trips, maybe a running group...and yeah some dating apps here and there but put yourself in situations where you'll have the opportunity to meet someone that has similar interests as you, this makes the approach much more natural.
Great point 💯 and an underrated approach that isnt really heard as much
Just a heads up, all those classes and activities you are planning on joining are going to have signs up and maybe even make you sign something that says you understand this is not the place to try to meet women and get dates.
@@Jeremy-ql1or well the same can be said about dating apps in terms of sign-up fees if you really want them to "work" and at the end of the day you're really just throwing money at the wall and seeing if it sticks. Yeah I might pay 100$ for dance classes and I might not meet a girl but at least I still get a return on my investment because I'll know how to dance and that could give me more opportunities. As for the waiver, I mean you shouldn't go do an activity with the soul purpose of approaching woman, you should have an actual interest in the activity, you'll come out more genuine and in the example of dance classes, physical contact is kind of mandatory so might as well start talking with who you're dancing with.
My point is just to put yourself in the right environment to meet the type of person you want.
Out of all videos based on this topic, this is the best. You've covered nearly everything and made it so well said.
I think another video idea would be visually showcasing the results girls get on these apps, like what sort of dudes are matching them, etc, like the things you mentioned in this video that you saw in the experiment.
Also maybe another video discussing some solutions we can do to better navigate this modern online dating world, if any.
He is actually quite good looking
you a guy?
@@fantasy8833 Yes
Tbh he's very average. I'm actually very surprised he had matches. I'm Asian and average like him, no matches, maybe 1 from a bot. Yet this guy got a boat load of matches. He must live in some very liberal place like Canada.
@@Kai_Stone
No the harsh truth is he looks just better than you.
@@Kai_Stone”the only way this guy had a chance was because of the liberals” 😂 people will inject politics into anything.
Women who get all that attention but still complain about their dating woes should be shamed
"women should be shamed" - average modern male wondering why noone wants him
they will choose a 9/10 chad out of their 200 daily matches, get railed and dumped then complain on reddit how all the men just want sex and abuse them. LMAO
What shocks me everytime, is that there still are more men than women on dating apps. Speaking about guys checking out. Not really. Simping should be considered a crime
There’s more women then men on dating apps and it’s proven
At least talk to them irl. giving compliments to women online is for cornballs
Im average also and have been on dating apps for 4 years.
Zero matches and zero dates
yeah im 5,7, it was a dead end
i’m 6’2” n still can’t get women they ALL WANT THE SAME THING
5’9” and girls ask me out in real life. It got me thinking I was good-looking. In reality, I’m like a 6/10. Zero matches. I got 2 likes from one trashy looking girl and one super ugly girl.
are you white@@SVAgxlxxi
The 80/20 rule still applies in real life simply because most men won’t approach, on the apps it’s like 98/2 at the minimum.
Simps really screwed this dating game
Not simps, human biology.
Love this video mate.
So I also conducted a similar experiment with a 9/10 white male model and a 9/10 white female model.
The female model got 100 likes a day for 5 days straight
The male model averaged 2-5 likes a day.
The crazier part was that the white male model did very similar to me, which was actually a massive confidence boost.
That being said, I’ve still struggled to find anything meaningful on the apps x
Women can usually tell when a profile is fake vs men
Woman that are looking for meaningful relationships have just as hard a time as men finding them. I've always heard that more men than women go on the dating sites, and that's part of the reason that women get so much more attention. Plus, like the guy acknowledged, it's part of male nature to pursue. I was a young looking, slim and a bit above average mid 40's women when I last was online. I got lots of mail and clicks and all that, but a heck of a lot was younger men looking for a cougar hookup. So many guys would send likes instead of message, or attempt to chat. Then there was lots of creepy guys just looking to get laid and wanting video hookups and sexting kind of correspondence. Lots of players, lots of too bold and no sense w/ women. It wasn't about money or the best looking or best resources. I wanted an average guy who had a healthy idea about women, dating and relationships. That was still pretty hard to find. I made a few friends that would ask my advice and help, and was ready to just delete my account in defeat, when a sweet, awkward and shy man, that still had confidence and knew that he wanted to settle down came along and was persistent and consistent enough to get me to date him.
@@saintejeannedarc9460 better be seen as sexually attractive than as a cockroach when you're a man below 4 on the looks scale
@@saintejeannedarc9460proof ?
@@saintejeannedarc9460 Women who look for meaningful relationships on OLD also fish for the best value man. I very recently went out with someone who wanted to take it slow and build a relationship, which I was 100% on board with as I'm not the type to take pleasure in chasing. The date went extremely well, our lifestyles were very similar, our passions were 1:1. We even set up a second date afterwards. Not even a week later (3-4 days after the date), she sends a message telling me she found someone better. Capitalism and internet technology has corrupted the concept of love and courtship, both of which require time. Everything is taken as face value. Nobody has the patience to know a person properly. They look at the appearances (looks, hobbies, lifestyle) and make their judgement after the first 3-5 hours of knowing the person.
I got ghosted for 4 years. Never even got a coffee date. I got muscular and had 8 dates scheduled within a week of updating my photos.
People like to then say that the apps are a looks contest.
That didn't stop the executive HR lead at the billion dollar company I work for touch me in the elevator. She broke all the rules - an executive, the lead HR person for 20+ years. Been at the company since it was 4 people.
Women will treat you like a king if you are attractive. Only men who have known the opposite and got there will understand. If you aren't attractive you get treated like garbage, like you don't exist or that your existence is an inconvenience.
Correct. I've always been told I'm attractive by women but I recently got in the best shape of my life. I'm 45. I'm getting more stares, smiles and attention from random women (especially young women) than I did in my 20s and 30s.
@@PB22559 insane how look matter so much...
@@PB22559Great that you can see a difference even in your experience. Just imagine how life changing it is for a man who has known nothing but body language signs of disgust, discomfort, etc just at your presence. Not only body language but little to no communication, and low quality communication if there is any at all.
Its just how the world works.
@@PB2255945… dude theye re just being polite
@@PB22559And people in the West _hoo_ and _haw_ and wonder why ultra-patriarchal cultures exist. Many times you really can't take the average woman seriously
The dating apps are full of busted people. Imagine the women you can meet who are outside and NOT on social media.
Even the ones outside are busted. Just focus on you and enjoy the decline.
@@Rn-pp9et Agreed, focusing on self health, both physically and mentally is the top priority.
People too afraid to get rejected in person nowadays, sadly 🙃
I blame social media for changing that mindset of online presence vs going outside and talking to someone. 🙃
Trust me there are plenty psycho chicks outside too
Lmao
Great discussion big dawg.
As an average man in the USA, I will give 0 attention/validation to these modern women. Whether its online or in person they just don't deserve my money, time, or personal feelings.
I found a passion in traveling the world, pretty soon I will be in country # 20( not a passport bro!).
In addition I focus on growing my business, reading, hitting the gym, being healthy, becoming the best version of myself. Whether or not women show interest, I am happy being single and accomplishing my personal goals!
keep goin up bro🚀🙏🏽
That's the goal
You telling the truth man these women in America aitn shit it's time to move on get a woman that not only looks good but has the drive to build with you, good personality and loves you for you unlike these American women.
there's also a phenomena where the more options you're given the more you regret the decision you made -- with the grape jam example, with only 2 options you would feel confident in your choice -- with 200 options, once you finally make your decision, after a while you will begin to regret it and think the grass is greener with one of the other options you didn't pick
thats a good point, i actually havent thought of that before 🤔
@@Dereksilver0 it's called Overchoice or choice overload
Paradox of choice. There's an actual book on it.
Women can get 12 messages per day from different guys and one can be more richer, prettier, older or younger than the other one. There is literally no reason for them to ever stop this train until looks will fade
@@nickem6556ur everywhere
Totally agree with all your points. The only way to solve this dating market in balance is wait for realistic AI female robots to come out, so they all the men who cannot s3x/intimacy will be able to, and women will not be given all this free attention/validation/money and will actually lower their standards and have to put in effort to compete for men.
The reason why that is such a stupid idea is because its a band aid cure for a problem thats *a gaping wound!* which is the lack of genuine, real, human companionship. No AI sex bot will ever be able to recreate that.
Wishing for robots is just a losers way to cope. Its basement dweller mentality.
The real solution to the dating problem is societal. Bring back two parent homes, that wont leave children traumatized leading them to be promiscuous as adults.
Champion modesty morals & values again as a society and shame & destroy any kind of sexual degenerate media/ideologies. This is a good start. Remember, women werent naturally like this. They were brainwashed into being like this through media indoctrination. Brainwashing that became twice as strong because they already came from traumatized childhoods in single mother households where those single mothers were also traumatized and brainwashed themselves (Which is often the reason they pushed the father out of the home in the first place) Address those two things and we’re well on our way to being back on track. Sadly though, thats not the agendas plans. So its only going to get worse. But sex bots wont solve shit, as We cant undo our biology and every human being wants true genuine love & companionship.
The dating market, just like any market, is always in balance. Equilibrium, economics 101.
We will be dead soon before that happens, and even if we werent, how much will it cost?
@@2Gales I love economics
Dang ok, this made me feel better 😂. The real thing is to not even care. Swipe only when u just bored fr
The whole idea behind PUA is that you start focusing on yourself, the problem is most dating advice comes down to not talking to the other sex just focusing on yourself. Also, dating apps want you to be single, so you can keep using them.
Idk, my viewpoint is a little different. I mostly ONLY date women who message me first or show very high interest, but most women I’ve met in dating apps have problems, low self esteem, BPD, baby daddies that make so they have to sneak talk to me, that’s why I don’t reccomend it. Luckily I happened to find a regular women on there, her only baggage is she’s been cheated on but it’s starting to come together now, hopefully
love hearing success stories, best of luck bro
quality content bro, subbed
IT NEVER GETS BETTER
Never
What I've learned throughout my life is that the current dating culture can be compared to the chicken or the egg analogy. Most men learn simping from how they grew up, usually by a single mother. And we base our dating choices (subconsciously) from our mother. Because she was your blueprint on how you love because she loves you. So you look for your mother in your partner. Most guys nowadays had no father, no one to model masculinity and therefore adopt a feminine approach when it comes to mate selection. Your mother and most influences in your younger years are FEMALE, so they tell you how to woo a girl based on how THEY would've wanted the men they were attracted to (bad boys), to woo them (tell her she's beautiful, buy roses, etc). Problem is, the bad boys pumped and dumped and they ended up a single mother, now she raises you to be what he was never for her.... chicken or the egg. Then the cycle continues to where now society is so flipped, generations of boys grew up with no father... Add in the advent of technology and now you have the perfect storm.
females with no father want someone cold, abusive and pretending like he doesn't want her, once he changes his behavior her dopamine rush ends and she hops on another one
My plan is to Get my fishing license and learn to swim this summer. Oh DATING? yeah idk about that one dog
You are on point man, keep up the good work 💪
I know that this isn't going to happen, but I wish dating apps would be 100% banned in the United States. They are causing people's self image to be vastly overinflated, and the worst part is that it translates into the real world.
Yes, I agree. 14-year relationship, 8 year marriage ended in part because of the attention my ex-wife was getting just on IG. Between that, the highest dose of SSRIs, and constant reality TV, her sense of self went to the moon, and then she filed like 2 months ago. We are in our mid 30s and just got a 500k house and pool a couple of years ago. It's bullshit man. Poisoned society. I'm higher status too, just not high enough...and I'm only 5'10 and really good looking, instead of 6'2" and extremely good looking lmao. "I'm never dating someone under 6' again," said the girl that is 5'2". Fml
You're absolutely right, although i live in Russia i am currently facing exactly the same situation as you and i came to the same conclusions as you:
1) stop chasing
2) self improvement (nowadays I'm working on my physic in the gym + growing beard with your American minoxidil + mewing etc.)
I think the main point is to never give up so that one day you can see the results of hard work.
Все кончено чувак
stop chasing but never give up?
Never improve yourself to get or impress women. Do It for yourself. If your going out of your way for a woman you won't find the right one. And dating apps just go on looks nothing else anyway.
@@coryleblanc Stop chasing women, but never give up on self improvement.
Yknow the whole beautiful garden phrase.
The height thing is a weird modern issue. I’m not even short but it’s so off putting. You will be talking with a girl for days and right before the date 50% of them will ask me how tall I am. I know if I was short they would just cancel the date, and these are girls who have invested time talking to me not girls I just opened.
You hit it out of the park with your description and prescription of/for dating apps and women. Every average dude needs to watch this and need the advice you give
This video is so comforting! Thanks, man.
I love your content it is pure wisdom, real-life experiences and profound knowledge.
tryin my best haha i appreciate it
Good video! Made me finally realise that these apps are a waste of my time. I got convinced I should join and I was very active for a while, and I did get a handful of matches but all went nowhere. So from now on I'll just put all the eggs into approaches and going to fun events to meet potential women, I'm done with these apps, and not just dating apps, I mean it's all just pixles on a screen, not real life.
Thank you so much for making this video. I had the same experience on those apps, and really felt terrible not only about myself but also about women in general. Only after quitting those apps I realized, neither I am so bad nor are women in general. Its just the nature of the beast that those apps create in the heads of both and women. The longer that beast has lived in someone's head, the more hard it would do to that person. Another thing I can relate with you was the short attention span of women on those apps. A person like me who takes one or two days to respond to text messages anyway can never survive in such an environment. Those apps are good only for those top 10% men, but for the rest of us mere mortals its terrible !
Those prompts you were quoting from girls profiles had me DYING, gotta look outside the U.S now
As a 28 year old average-slightly above average guy I agree with you. What women will have pain realizing in the next 10-15 years is that looks fade and a hookup and a man wanting to invest in you long term are twl different things...
Thats ur problem u believe ur above average lol
@@nt3353 I'm not obese. I have a six pack. I made over $50k last year. I sleep with women. The average guy gets no pussy. You are a troll. Haha.
@@nt3353 said the coward hiding behind a false profile. Incel
@@nt3353cope look at your pfp
@@nt3353 average 28 year old American man is fat so if you are close to being a fit you are above avarge
Maybe I was thinking we could save the expensive restaurant for like the 10th or 12th date.
That sounds perfectly sensible.
@@saintejeannedarc9460it’s sensible but wont get you anywhere with all these other simps out here giving her 10000% up front just cause he met her
Ay bro ,
Straight Facts . Preach brotha . Realest smartest shit I’ve heard in awhile . Got my subscription and I hope these mofo’s listening
Dude I was a serial dater in apps. I had dozens of matches in a short time span. With that being said. 0 matches is a blessing it saved you from head ache and heartache and and possibly an std or an unwanted pregnancy.
Idk what to think of the modern dating scene. There’s too much conflicting info coming from all sorts of different angles and our individual experiences either validate or discredit whatever discourse
That's good to be dubious about what you're being told online. Watch out for the supposed red pill sites, because they are really black pill. You're going to hear the worst of the worst about women, and these are jaded and bitter men. Of course we're all sick of feminism, but try to balance your views by looking at the other side and listening to women and what they are looking for and their issues too. It's always best to get a balance. The truth is somewhere in between. I found the worst first date story clips had interesting stories. Most the really bad stories were from women and it reminds you of what women truly are dealing w/, which is definitely not what the red pill guys are mostly saying.
A dating app match isn't a match until you met in person and smashed.
I smashed over 8 woman using online dating apps in a period of 10 months
@@cripbk2147me when I lie
@@cripbk2147how’d you pull that off?
@@128scalps Im photogenic & I have a good body physique since I been hitting the gym for 3 years. My face is very average. Im above average height. Hispanic male. Some woman who are interested will be down too hook up.
@@cripbk2147I’m 5’8 im cooked
Good video bro big facts when I swiped on everything I hit hella matches 😂
Thanks for speaking up for men and viewing society through an honest lens! First video I'm seeing of yours, but your content is very much needed 🙏🏽 Men and women need to open their eyes to the truth of dating
35m here. I gave up a long time ago. felt burned out from all the rejections and jestering
Wow, I agree with your video so much! I also think if you have to entertain women on apps and pull levers in a particular way just to keep their attention, you were never compatible to begin with, especially if they always have other options available.
I don’t even think it’s worth trying to “game” the system to get more matches - you’re probably going to be wasting your time anyway.
Too many options = inflated sense of their own self-importance.
I believe it comes down to these exploitative dating app companies - they’re the problem.
Basically all you said I figured out a fewe months back. Especially the competition I think is the root of the problem. Right now you easily compete against thousands of people in you live in a city.
I'd say I'm definitely average. 5 foot 7, no abs, 165lbs, round face, exercise regularly in spring/summer but go into a laze/hibernation for fall/winter. Ended up joining the army, and I'd say that was very likely the only reason I got an uptick in matches from maybe one or two to at most 5 to a dozen on any given dating app, and still being only average looking. You hit the nail on the head with this vid - from the double standards to the lying about how much looks genuinely matter and subsequent overinflated emphasis people put on looks, whether men or women. *Everyone* seems to want the 9 or 10/10 matches in looks, and no one seems happy/content with the simply average demographic, which is a huge part of the problem. Doesn't help that *every* dating nowadays is pretty much tailored to keeping people lonely with their algorithms purposely keeping all the eye-candy profiles at the forefront while Joe/Jane Schmo is left to wither. Nor does it help that people purposely self sabotage themselves by staying unhealthy whether physically or mentally, surround themselves with yes-men/women and then wonder why others don't like them. Dating would be far, far simpler if PC culture didn't go overboard by invading personal lives to the point where we all now live in HR world. Can't ask a woman out in public anywhere anymore because it's now an "over-stepping of boundaries" which leaves it all up to the women, who by sheer numbers/statistics aren't going to ask men out. Whether its asking out a co-worker, approaching someone at bars/clubs or even walking dogs. Then again the kind of people trying to find love at bars/clubs highly likely aren't the kind of people to find solace in long-term relationships with in the first place, but that's neither here nor there. Dating apps became the norm, and it shouldn't be that way. Thanks, PC culture and SJW's. Real bang-up job. And thx Silver for this vid.
Dating apps are not the wave. Originally for hookups taken over by desperate women seeking relationships and then demonized it. Live in the physical world, work on yourself, enjoy your peace. Because even if you do get a match and go on a date they might not be it. Expanding your circle is a great way to find someone.
Silverwolf to be honest I've given up with dating I can't pretend to be a guy I am not to entertain a girl with an ego issue who doesn't even know what her true value is
I do want a girlfriend but at this point I accepted I can't comepete with a tall dark and handsome guy who can just hit her up anytkme of the day
I have no idea how people are insecure 24/7 when it comes to their relationships even can cheat thanks to online dating
The best ‘luck’ I had on dating apps was when I was mean to a girl because I didn’t like her and thought she was an arrogant prick. She talked to me more than anyone. Makes no sense. Literally the girl I didn’t like that I treated like crap liked me.
They are being turn on by abusing behavior because of the experience in the past with father or other boys, then they will ask to do non consensual stuff roleplay
Ha welcome to female psychology
You are one eloquent dude. Sub earned. 👊
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I'm leaving dating apps alone. Meeting other single people at events is where its at.
You have a great attitude. I also love how you say, "single people", instead of women, which to the red pill crowd, is generally a slur now.
@saintejeannedarc9460 Well, I'm technically bi😅, hence the "people".🤭
I am on a huge grind.
End goal is to bench 265lbs at 165lbs bodyweight.
As Derek says... the less you care the better it is.
Focus on your goals and magic will happen.
Great video bro moral of the story just don’t care you’ll be much better off
As someone who has stopped chasing for a while now, I've been the best person that I've ever been. Self reflecting and improving is key.
cope
Cope Harder. You are simply trying to deal with the fact you will never be able to propagate your genes.
Sound like u gave up
Don't relate to this at all. To me it's not worth it. If you're not happy, just don't date. I gave up on finding anyone with similar core values more than a decade ago. Tried going on dates exactly 3 times before that, then quit. If you keep failing, but repeat the same motions regardless, well, you know how it goes, insanity and all that.
How old are you now ?
U didn't answer the question
@@gregkareem9824 It's that important? The comment wouldn't have made much sense if I was in my teens or twenties after all. I'm 36 now. Stopped dating around 23 or 24 I think.
lol wtf I dont need to hear this pessimistic attitude. Cant believe I stumbled upon this bs. Foh
@@ryancarrel5191 If anything it's intended to be liberating. I have absolutely no regrets. Sorry if you didn't get that, but that's you reading into it.
Moving to the US 9 years ago has made my chances of dating much slimmer.
The job I’m perusing will allow me to travel so that’s a plus.
Everything you say is so true. But damn. As a 38 yo guy who is starting over dating, going back on the online dating apps and dealing with all of this makes me want to vomit
its not impossible though; but you definitely gotta maneuver through some bs lol
You just walk up to them on the street and say hi.
I genuinely liked this video. Good content bro. Funny mentioning passport bros 😂
I'm so sick of hearing from the passport bros. They think all the women in their country are trash, but that's because they have impossibly high standards. They complain about women just being after money. What do they think they are getting when they go to a third world country, where a woman is willing to date outside her race and culture (which is frowned upon over there)? It used to be pathetic to get a mail order bride, which is pretty much what they are doing.
The worst part is that dating apps give you limited likes unless you buy premium. So it limits your potential matches, if any at all.
Great job ladies. Your gold digging is literally unraveling society. Well done.
some, not all; we love women
They don't care. They have their Chads for an evening and money from ordinary men thanks to government redistribution...
Good advice 💪
What mic are you using❓
at2020 usb
Stumbled onto this video… I met my girl at a party 14 years ago. Still together today. For the most part we are happy together, yes we have arguments, and disagreements, but we are able to “talk” to each other, and work out our differences. We don’t even share a lot of interests, and are very much opposites of each other, and I think that’s partly why it works..Hopefully we are together forever. Get out there and find your match IRL. Your chances are much higher. No confidence? Find some! If you have no confidence, you will NEVER get her. Good luck.
Well articulated facts Wolf.
Free dinner? Only simps lead w their wallet!
I'm so happy im gay during these times. Ya'll seem to have to hella ruff nowadays
Nothing new here, but still a good video. I liked how you structured it.
You nailed it. I’ve been around for longer, before the apps, & it’s not like online dating’s ever been amazing per se, but nowadays? Holy hell…
So if you are average guy, you are basically screwed.
Not completely screwed, just significantly more challenging especially on dating apps. Within your local communities probably a bit better depending where you live but still more challenging lol, dont give up
@@Dereksilver0 there is hope then, we just have to be realistic
Simple .. be handsome and dont be ugly .. how hard is that
Very hard if you already ugly or got bad genetics then you have to accept being ugly unless you got hundreds of thousands for facial surgery
@@kendralhunt4296 becoming handsome is impossible if you weren't born with good enough (note: good enough =/= good looking) starting facial features. plastic surgery ain't magic, yo.
I remeber talking to this 1 girl and 3 days into talking to her she asked if I could help her pay for her cosmetology equipment lol
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Bro what. Lol.
Completely agree with you bro
In Washington DC I've had ladies reject me for being too short. I'm 5'11. Does not matter in the chick is only 4'8.
5.11 is fine, don't worry. But it matters for us ladies cos we want our kids to be tall. 6 ft ++ is perfect.
@@mssn3166 I don't want kids and have been very open about that for years.
@@mssn3166 you are stuрid if it's matters to you
@@mssn3166
"But it matters for us ladies cos we want our kids to be tall. 6 ft ++ is perfect."
Then a lot of you are going to be in harems with an average of six other women because only 1 in 7 guys are 6' or taller.
@@Jeremy-ql1or my minimum is 5.10 though. If past a certain age, 5.9 but I’m aiming for 5.10, 6 and + is perfect. I’ve met guys who have the height I like
After years in dating apps with absolutely nothing. I'm finally accepting that I'm meant to be alone
nah dont say that lol you wont be alone
think of this period of your life as a character development arc in ur favourite anime
What you say about most matches not leading to anything is so true and kills my motivation to use the apps every time. For a guy I have an okay match rate but 99% of my matches don't message me first and if they do it's just a 'hey' so I have to figure out how to carry a conversation with all of them and then like 90% of the girls I message stop replying :D. Think I need to do what you do and not take it too seriously because right now I have 16 matches I haven't messaged and 46 potential matches on Hinge because I worry too much that if my messages aren't perfect they'll stop replying. :(
a female friend of mine made the offer a while ago to make a tinder account at the same time and leave it over night.
The next morning she had 1400 likes against my 50 as a man.
It’s even worse as an Indian. We are at the bottom of the dating pool.
😂 dont worry brother. We're all getting a raw deal.
Bro we're all in the same sinking boat lol
Im indian too. I got about 50 matches in the first month on tinder when I moved to a new city just outside of Houston, TX in the beginning of December. If you would have told me I would get this, I would have said thats awesome! A few girls even opened. What came out of it? All ghosted after a while or when I suggested a date. 0 dates as of March 2024. Im 6'1'' and used a shirtless pic for the first pic (im in good shape with a six pack). Now the matches are slowing down and its pretty much over. Ive given up. Unless a girl messages/opens first in person or online with high enthusiasm, Im done pursuing. Im focusing on intimidation maxxing now for life in general and trying to get as jacked as possible to at least be physically dominating in public to show all the people that think indians are weak and feeble that if they fuck with me, they'll get beat up. It is what it is and life goes on...
@@VR-oy3fu how a currycel like you gets matches in the first place, except for with your own race, is beyond my understanding. I'm saying this as a brown rice-cel
Asians n blacks are at the bottom of dating pool
I am a 6' 2" white male that was making over 100k and I had to take a project in Mexico to find a wife. They cheated on me constantly. They were boring, dull, with a really low IQ. Meanwhile, they all thought they were straight 10s. This was nearly 2 decades ago... I feel bad for guys now. Holy crap.
Online dating brutal. I know my worth, I know my preference, Im not gonna going on dates with girls im not interested in and Im not going to pursue girls who dont appreciate my attention. I didnt consider myself average buuut after a month on the app..thats what I am. I havent used dating apps for 8 years and I felt a significant drop in mood after I got on, I never imagined it would be this bad.
men are not the one who choose, either you are down bad or being 60yo virgin
so how many matches did u yet?
Dating apps should be deleted off the internet.
if this dude is average im fucked
nah bro, give yourself more credit, or the future you more credit
I appreciate this 🙏
This video is hilarious. Thank you!
online dating is fkd up, better to approach in real life that is what i learned. Most guys don't approach girls in public anymore so you got a big advantage over guys on dating apps and social media
thats actually true; with the rise of social media and technology, people would much rather dm or message from the comfort behind a screen than actually go up to a girl
As a girl on dating apps I am tired of the amount of time being asked if I want to hookup. My likes might be alot but most of them do not want to date me or get to know me as a person.They're making feel like I am a protistute and unworthy of love.
But yeah I agree when a guy show off a bit too strong especially when we only chatted for a few hours, I would be turn off as well.I have a guy who said he wanted to marry me although we never met...
I think that's because of redpill content. According to redpill content creators, going on dates is for "betas" and that women only want free meals and free attention on dates. They also teach that women don't need to go on dates for the men they're truly attracted to. She'll come over to your place if she wants you, no need for dating.
Some of this is kind of true, as I've experience this myself. But I know not all women behave like this.
@@KandaEzana Women do want free meals n free attention tho.
Honestly every time I’ve ask a girl hay can I get to know you they ghost after two texts mind you I’m 6ft2 180lb I’m shape so idk 🤷♂️
@jeremybeaverson7167 I'm sorry but if this happening "everytime", you doing something wrong.
@@ramalellison9205 it’s called not being a 10 and my best conversation I’ve had have been by being mean then nice then mean somehow that gets numbers and snaps and IG
Come to think of it, "If you can't handle perfection" would be a pretty funny thing to say on a dude's profile.
I might use that
Very insightful, thanks!
If you're average , then I'm finna retire.
He hsn't seen the stats on how undesirable Asain men are on the dating apps. 😂😂😂
yeah he actually is good looking
I think I'm gonna die alone
Better than being with someone who cheats on you