TOP 5 NEW COFFEE PRODUCTS AT HOST MILANO 2023: Exploring the Showfloor with Lance
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I hope you enjoyed the video! Please let me know below what you are most excited about. I carefully selected these three as the best mixture of what I thought were most hyped and what I personally was most excited about.
Mazzer- www.mazzer.com/en/product/phi...
Mahlkonig- www.mahlkoenig.com/products/e...
Tone- tone-swiss.com/tone-presents-...
Maro- maro.coffee/
ACS- www.elcor.it/en/home-en/
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TIME CUES:
0:00- Introduction to Host
0:38- Mazzer Philos
4:58- Squarespace
5:58- Mahlkonig EK43 Omnia
11:53- Tone Touch
15:12- Maro Espresso
20:40- ACS Falcon 1 - Zábava
What were you most impressed with? To be honest, I was super impressed by Maro. Taking into account the thought behind the machine, the UI, the build quality, and the fact the two people running it are actual KIDS, was incredible. What are your thoughts on the five I hit? And don't forget to like and subscribe if you haven't! Helps the channel loads and allows travel like this (which I paid for- zero company assistance getting out there.Thanks to you!)
yeah i love that maro machine a lot. i remember watching a video on yt last year or something about it and loved everything they're doing
really cool guys. excited for their next steps. I think it is like for preorders on kickstarter or something.
Honestly, I was stoked about the Tone. The “sustainability” factor it addresses is a welcomed highlight. I really hope that this leads to an eventual reaction by the industry at large. It was a super cool thing to see.
Definitely! I am excited about it but the fact that tech isn't really new (same exact unit inside manument) makes it not as impressive to me personally. But an absolutely NECESSARY addition to commercial equipment.
It seems that the future of espresso machines is the addition of computers. The Italians need to realize this and get on board that train.
Great video Lance! Just a couple of adjustments. The EK43 has alway had cast burrs as standard. We have greatly improved our casting process to eliminate warping in recent years to ensure higher quality, what you were referring to.
The Omnia comes with the standard EK burrs, as in the current EK43. These burrs have been incredibly popular and have been designed to cover a wide range of coffees from amazing espresso to filter.
The pre 2015 burr was a filter only burr that was also cast. There is many baristas out there who request we re-release this burr quite often. In fact, many have not actually tried it but the online community have created quite a buzz around it making it legendary… Some have even attempted to replicate it.
Back then we reacted to the fact that the 2015 burrs were great for filter coffee but not a great all rounder due to its narrow application window and therefore did not cover the wider demands of our customers brewing espresso.
If there is enough demand we could consider remaking the pre 2015 burr. Perhaps we should put it to a public vote to gauge interest? If we get enough demand we could open a preorder and remake it.
Again great video and was a pleasure to meet you and Hugo at the booth ❤️
I definitely didn't get that with our conversation! I was under the impression all the burrs were largely tool steel and cast were relegated to lab sweet burrs (which are very well known to be warped often)
I vote you bring back the pre2015.
To be sure, I did not the burrs in the machine were standard but thought you were bring back the cast burrs as an option. (As in pre 2015)
Bring bring the pre 2015 filters 🤘🏼
We had an online signing petition going for this actually a few years ago, I think there’s market for the A Coffee burrs, open up those preorders!
I'd buy some if you put a pre-order up!
Such exciting times here in the world of coffee! Thanks for always being our tour guide in this wonderful rabbit hole
Thank you for following along! Only way I can make this happen.
You're on a roll...Nicely done please keep it up!🎉 Solid presentation and great delivery.👍
great video as always. you’re one of the few creators who actually gets inside the machines at the expo rather than just talking about them. makes such a difference in video quality!
Waiting for him to get excorted out of a convention by security for fully disassembling a grinder😂
okay, ill watch another video about HOST..
I know I know. I had no idea everyone else would be there! I did one on world of coffee in Milan last year and already planned on HOST this year. I did hit some different products, though.
@@LanceHedrick I hope you all, at least, ran into each other so you could have a Coffee themed Avengers Assemble moment.
I did not go to host personnaly, so I'm really happy to have watched 5 video of host.
Because they all have a different enough point of view, and so I feel like I didn't missed much from host
ya, exactly the same! Lance's video had some nice features i didn't see anywhere else. And hey, it's Lance :)
@@SomeRandomBarista
Coming from the IT industry, I will get over 20 videos of the same tech event/conference per day of the event. So, only getting about 5 or 6 is crazy to me 😂
That mazzer is fire
beautiful, for sure.
@@LanceHedrick By chance do you know if non-Mazzer 64mm burrs will fit in the Philos like SSP? Thank you
@@LanceHedrickreview date? 🤔🙂
Exciting stuff! Thanks for sharing! I think I am most interested in seeing out the boilerless espresso machine pans out and if the tech will make machines smaller and more affordable to more people
Thank you for making a video about the actual innovations presented here rather than only focusing on the hyped up products like I’ve seen in so many videos already
wow! all the nice fresh Italian food you can get in Milan.
enjoy your trip!!
Hi there! I was really surprise with the Ascaso boilerless machines, very quick heating and very stable output. Also their new H64 grinder, very simple but surprisingly efficient, and now it really match their machines!
Excellent production value!
Thank you for sharing!
thank you for watching!!
There's really a lot of interesting changes happening in the coffee industry these years. Very exciting!
Perfect timing while I make my new favorite the Nomacono.
heck yes! so glad you're enjoying that!
Thank you Professor 🥰
thank YOU for the support!
Thought this was one of the better videos that a coffee CZcamsr has put out about their time at HOST. Thanks Lance
Very interesting video. I enjoy those types of videos.
Love that Tone setup. A high end Bambino with hot water when needed!!!
Haha! For sure. It's about time that tech enters the forray of cafes!
Tone Touch is incredible, hope they make a range of products for different scales of business.
definitely! It's about time!
100% agree!! I'm on the market for a home espresso machine and if they are coming out with a 1-group home version - I'm all in for saving energy.. Especially living in the countryside :) ALso that Mahlkönig Omnia... Seriously good machinery there!
Great video! Thank you for sharing
Did you get a chance to see the Strada x1?
The Maro is really cool! I can’t wait for it to be released!
I agree! Really neat addition to the market
The MaRo is VERY interesting. And I also like the Mahlkönig EK43 Omnia.
The new EK I want on my bar! Solves a lot of problems. The Tone looked pretty epic too. Thanks Lance for showing us around.
What kind of problems will solve?
@@kalintodorov3062 specific grind from one brew method to another, quieter, less chaff, better alignment, faster workflow, easier access to the burrs
Professor Hedrick is BACK! 👨🏻🏫🔥
back, baby!
Great production
The way you pronounce host milan makes it sound like this is a Post Malone coffee show, which is def more fun :) This equipment looks badass, thanks for sharing
I'm amused by the Mazzer grinder having its adjustment dial on the back, since I leave my Fellow Ode grinder facing sideways due to limited counter space anyway. The big numbers on that dial would really be more visible to me.
Love the boilerless approach, another company worth looking at is heylo.
I love that this wasn't only a video brochure of the products, but you actually show how they are designed
Love you mate
Tone and the Maro are both gorgeous machines.
That Maro looks amazing.
Thank you! Will the mazzer burrs be sold as spare parts for those who already own a Mazzer SJ?
lance delivers. lance delivers. like!
If the mara MSRP is lower than the decent I expect that to make some big waves. Looks like a great machine
That early morning Hendy video to watch while I brew my kalita wave pour over
ohhhhhhh yeah. coffee and youtube. combo for a fire day
Like the Philos, ok with the rear adjustments just wish the burrs were blind aka screw-less burrs.
I'm dying waiting for your review of the Londinum (I'm pretty sure that was the other lever I saw in the background of your Nurri video)
Maro Model 1 - Nice design! I can’t wait to see the Eureka espresso machines tho…
Looking to buy the Niche grinder, using it for espresso. Is the duo with flat burr set worth paying extra $100 instead of the zero with conical burr set?
very cool!
Finally someone talking about Maro Model 1 and the new ACS Falcon which i am really interested since i don‘t have a space for the Vostok. This looks awesome. And if you say that the price of the Faclcon will be around 2000€… i‘ll drop some money on that
He told me 2000 would be highest. I asked if it'd be under 2k and he said "oh yes"
Crazy!
Man, the Tone is so slick
Did you say Philos has a pre-breaking auger? How does that work?
Nice job Lance 💪🏻
thank you!
can you give us some experience using cafesing orca because im so interested with new hand grinder with 2 burr option in 1 package
I really like the new eureka grinders
to be honest, I was not impressed. I thought the dial was quite ugly, though functionally it is a slight improvement.
Duball is calling dibs on all of this already
I don’t care about the adjustment dial - I’m thrilled to see a company like Mazzer in the prosumer single-dose market. So many of the options are coming from completely new companies like Zerno, or their companies (Timemore, MHW-3Bomber) that don’t have experience manufacturing robust electric grinders.
To be fair, the fact that burrs from the big manufacturers need aligned by the buyer isn't confidence inspiring. Happy to see new gear, but the QC is continually disappointing with few exceptions.
You should though. An adjustment dial so far away from the burrs means lots of distance which would mean more play overtime which means subtle changes overtime which has the potential to be awful.
Dope
I have a Mazzer mini for espresso and another Mazzer mini for filter coffee at home. With the new omnia is no more need for two grinders right. ?
That boilerless machine is quite smart. I imagine you can 'easily' reverse the idea behind pc watercoolers.
Yep! Some cool tech they have and they are still working on
The Maro is nice! And definitely feels more expensive than it looks.
Lance please can you review the Unica Pro. To me it is the most energy efficient flow / pressure profile machine on the market.
Love your stuff Lance but you can't have "550 Watts an hour". Think of Watts as a flow of energy analogous to litres per second, but in this case Joules per second or energy per second. If you meant it would use 550 Watts continuously for an hour ie use 0.55 kWhrs of energy, that would make sense. Apologies if you already know all this and just misspoke.
yes. a slight misspeaking. it consumes 550 watts continuously for an hour to maintain stability. my brain said "550 watts an hour"
Hey, great video! Isn't the heating mechanism of the Tone Touch similar to the Breville Machines with Thermojet?
similar! What Breville has in new machines is called Pharros tech. That's why I said in the video "pharro like tech"
They didn't have a name for it, but it is the same exact tech that the Manument has that Daddy Hoff recently reviewed.
@@LanceHedrick I think it's "Ferro", from the manufacturer "Ferro Techniek BV", but I could be wrong of course.
Awesome video Lance! The music is maybe just a touch too loud at times.
heard! will pass on to Hugo
Lance is the HOST, son of HOFF.
not to be confused with a parasitic host.
Any new thoughts on the Meticulous?
Model 1 looks technologically incredible and I love the customization, reminds me of a Tesla, but call me old fashioned but sometimes you need a physical button. That's actually something that bothers me with the Tesla, not enough physical buttons. I would have liked a mix of the 2 or at least a physical button or lever to start/stop coffee and steam.
Do a review on varia vs3 gen 2
I understand that you may not see this, but with respect to the tone I was wondering why there is such excitement about these new fast heating (on/off) espresso machines, like the one James Hoffmann reviewed a few weeks ago. I understand the practicality of being able to heat up water in a instant for a shot and the economic benefits this would have in saving energy but surely this technology already has existed with thermoblocks and thermocoils. I was wondering what the big difference is between this new technology that is being developed and the technology that already existed in machines like the BDB (is it the accuracy and PID control??)
Sounds like a similar idea, the Thermocoils are just getting bigger or more sophisticated if it can be used commercially!
I'm most excited about the Mazzer grinder, that thing looks really cool. The Maro is also awesome, making a Decent that's also noob friendly is a great idea. Btw, I love your "back in COVID times" phrasing, makes it sound very old timey 🤣
Honestly though, I think the Tone machine might be the most exciting innovation to me, even though I'm sure I'll never buy that machine. If they can truly go no-boiler, and pull a new type of cold esprsso, that's really exciting for not just the industry, but home barista, too! Hopefully that kind of tech will make it's way into more machines if it's successful
Yeah! I'd so I'm most excited about the tone, but it's not most exciting. I say this because that tech has been around for a while. It's about time someone implemented it into a commercial machine!
@@LanceHedrick that makes sense
I was always a bit turned off by the decent just because of the UI. I didn’t want to be looking at graphs at 7am to get a decent shot. That model 1 has a lovely UI and probs gets 80% of the way there for most people (inc me!). I’m just not sure about having a screen like that on my machine at all. I don’t know, but I feel it might take away from the tactile experience of pulling a shot? What are peoples experience of owning smthn like that over, say, a BDB or Linea?
amazing how many machines are built. what volume before a manufacturer breaks even? i think meticulous said 1000.
it's crazy! So many new players in the game, too
Great video, the Maro seems like a strange value proposition since it's targeted at people who don't know how to make espresso, yet are willing to spend $4500 on an espresso machine but I hope for them those are out there since it seems very well built and thought out. For the mazzer, any idea what the (EU) retail price will be? If the price is right it could be interesting to have a grinder from a company that has EU distributors avoiding the high import taxes (e.g. on Zerno Z1 or Lagom P64)
To be fair, it isn't targeted at that demographic. They just wanted to ensure and include it. You'd be surprised how many people start espresso and immediately buy a decent or LM mini. It is geared towards any level with the promised potential of infinite upward mobility.
As for mazzer, they said 1000 euro in europe so likely 1400 or so in US
@@LanceHedrick Thanks for the response and fair enough, it definitely is a lot more accessible than something like the decent and there are plenty of people out there to whom $4500 isn't that much money. At the €1000 price point I'm very curious how the mazzer will perform, especially in terms of the flavor profile of the burrs and whether it will turn out to be similar to the SSP MP burrs. Any plans on doing a review when they're released? (Also any idea when that will be?)
Weird coffee person - just like Dr. James Hoffmann. Love them. :)
Damn that new EK 43 is sexy
Definitely a looker
😘
Can you single dose with omnia
Are they re-releasing the mythical pre-2015 cast geometry then. 100% confirmed? 🤞🙏
nice shirt:)
Love the tech in all these machines, but I wish there were more physical buttons instead of touch targets, the last thing I want when I'm groggy and trying to get caffeine in me is to tap at the front of the machine five times because I missed by a millimeter or my hand was wet
Tbf the Maro side buttons are very easy to actuate even with wet fingers. I always try this lol
Have you seen the Heylo boilerless espresso machine? They actually pioneered the technology!
Boilerless tech has been around since the 40s lol
@@LanceHedrick oh right of course, but as far as I know they were the first to go boilerless in a fully functional commercial machine. I think their machine is induction only, which is very interesting.
I'm looking for a good single dose, so far the only one i see that firs my need is the PK100
Did you get a chance to see the Synchronika V4? I haven’t seen any press on the features or announcement on ECM’s website.
They made a nicer looking PID screen I think, any other new features?
@@BensCoffeeRants thought there was something about shorter heat up time / group head temperature stability but wondering if that’s beneficial enough to warrant waiting to buy one
@@austinbrowning1022Cool I haven't heard anything about it yet. The old Synchronika seemed like it had great temp stability to me, I thought despite people talking about e61 temp stability being poor (probably applies more to hx machines).
do you have any link regarding the updated model V4 ? can't seem to find anything about the V4 over the internet..
One day soon, some company will name one of their espresso machines the “Hedrick”.
haha how wild would that be! lol
HDB by Sage
Was really excited about the MARO until you mentioned the price 🧐
I think I'll be sticking with my modded GCP until something with MARO/Decent features hit more mainstream/consumer tech prices.
a big part of their price is quality of parts and the fact all are sourced and built in Germany.
Sooo no new breakthrough with cost reduction of good entry level stuff the (300-500 normal recommendations) just more pro and commercial items?
All cool to see new high end stuff just wish I could buy it too 😂
Mazzer is an example of the engineer to consumer disconnect. You won't be seeing that dial if it's under a cupboard.
Who is the 'he' at ACS?
'high quality luxury bathroom material'? Come on! The TONE looks really interesting. Thank you.
Why "come on"? Odd remark
Did Lelit bring out an updated version on the Bianca? Let’s say the v4? Hopefully they will build a better display to work with. Next year I am in for a new setup. So, grinder and dual boiler espresso machine!! Also, do you think that the new EMC will be a good alternative? Keep up the good work on the channel!!👌
Luxury bath material = CORIAN for all of us freaks of materials.
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Speedy!
@@LanceHedrick 😊
brb pulling shot
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I still don’t understand the design choice of putting the grind adjustment on the back of Mazzer. Whether you are a home barista or in a shop, you adjust the grind size more often than you clean the grinder. Definite deal breaker for me.
I completely understand that. I wasn't a big fan.
@@LanceHedrick 👍thanks for a great review. As always!
appreciate you!
Mazzer new grinder Philos , i thought it was a new Zerno. It may pose a challenge to Zerno as Mazzer is a well established brand.
Having spoken with the engineer and seen the philos, I still take zerno 10/10
Let's get rid of them boilers!
Get em outta here!
Maro looks like Tesla in coffee machines world
Ohh man I hate that dial on the back. That’s just asking for wiggle overtime.
That last machine is definitely not going to be anything close to $2000. lol maybe I just heard that wrong
The Philos really resembles the Zerno.
The mic tho
Host to coffee people is more exciting than disney to children.
Id love to have $50,000 to blow on coffee gear and just buy some toys
Haha same here!
Where’s the giant burrs in the thumbnail?
They didn't have the grinder there lol.
music is way too loud :(
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That mazzer design is absolutely terrible. A user adjusts the beans much more than it does taking the machine apart. Also 64mm burrs in that behemoth?
I had the same thoughts. I first thought it was like 80mm burrs haaha!
@@LanceHedrick definitely a ‘lateral move’ for mazzer. At first it looks like they’re trying to compete with the EK, or maybe even a fancier competitor to the Timemore sculptor. But given the price (allegedly 1.000€), it seems like a specialty version of the Mazzer mini. A lot of cafes already use Minis for decaf etc, and this would be a more versatile alternative to fill that space.
First haha
Close!
lotsa cool new engineering for sure
i wish the coffee industry stopped using, imo, super yucky spouted portafilters. i can't get over having an espresso made with a spouted portafilter that hasn't been rinsed out under the basket and the spouts. it makes my heart so so sad for all the baked on syrupy coffee under the baskets and in the spouts just having new espresso running over it. not to mention the objectively substantial amount more material and manufacturing costs making spouted portafilters
I agree re: cleanliness! it does seem to be a relic of the past, though many are die hard lovers of it. I doubt it will be going anywhere anytime soon. maybe just easier to clean iterations, i'd imagine.