Why Apple updated their charger: 67W versus 70W
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- Why Apple updated their charger: 67W versus 70W
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00:00 Introduction
00:50 Apple
04:12 Data
06:20 Final Comments - Věda a technologie
For me, the killer feature for Apple chargers is their compatibility with the international duck heads in the World Traveler Adapter Kit. But in that scenario I want more than one port, especially at these prices. The 35W dual port charger is underpowered and the 70W charger is … under-ported.
i suppose their thinking is, youll charge your phone using the ports on your laptop so as long as the laptop is getting enough juice then one port is enough. cant say i agree but it would explain
I agree. That Apple international adapter interface is both standards compatible (it’s just a plain old C7 jack) and it adds a ground pin and support of on-adapter international plugs. It’s one of the few Apple parts that’s the opposite of proprietary lock-in.
I am curious about what the next update will bring.
@@oggilein1yes that’s what I usually do. I plug in my laptop, and then I plug in my phone and headphones to the laptop
@@AllThingsOnePlace a 73 watt charger /s
What about the stuff you usually cover like thermals and voltage stability?
Yeah, just tried to keep the video shorter. It is good I just didn’t grab any footage of the thermals this time around. The voltage is in the data in the video.
I have the 96W and it’s massive. Nice to see they are improving the size without losing on performance and security. Thanks for the video!
Yeah, they're trying. This still isn't the one but Apple will sell these by the millions so making them last is important.
Apple adapters never die my original ipod touch adapter from 2009 still works ❤
my firewire charge brick from 2003 is still kickin, i use it for fast charging on all my ipod classics and it does the job as well as it did 20 years ago. back when 2.5w charging was the best you could hope for with usb, firewire doing 12w was quite the upgrade!
However, Apple cables die often.
For example, a 3-foot or 6-foot _USB to Lightning cable._
Careful, if you're european or have european type plugs, some models of 5W adapters sold these years (2008 or so) can be dangerous and have been recalled
Uhh... Power adapters in general never die, unless they're extremely cheaply made.
I don't have a single device, be it apple or anything else, where the power adapter died on me. If you ignore cable damage that is, where it was already noted that Apple is actually worse.
Saying that I do wonder why that is. They do actually contain electrolyte capacitors which should eventually fail.
Power adapters do fail, the electrolytic capacitors are often the culprits, which may cascade to further failures. It all depends on use. It is often why a home router might say it needs 12V and 2A but in reality it needs 0.8A, this makes sure the power supply is generally under a light load and will last longer. Same goes for laptops and USB bricks. The more you stress them the hotter they get and the shorter the lifespan.
I got the 70W one with my M3 MBA. Glad to know you approve, overall.
Thanks for watching!
The 20.6 volt is definitely a wise idea - Apple knew that the cable will cause voltage loss to some degree, so Apple was intending the actual power at the device end to feed into the device at as close to 20.00 volts as possible.
Also if you look at their products, they charge with more amps at 20.6V compared to 20.0
The power adapter protects at less current than other adapters. It is actually more power efficient for transfer of energy, but 20 v 20.6 is a very small difference. Going up to 28V can make some real gains but they reserve that for the highest end machines.
@@AllThingsOnePlace right but I am talking about the MacBook itself will allow 3A at specifically 20.6V vs 1.5A at 20.0V. That’s what the back of a MacBook Air states at least
@@chadkrause6574Yeah they probably do that cause their cables suck. I recently tested one of the 100W 2M cables, it dropped 1.5V (18.5V) at 55W charging my HP laptop. The cable would even start to get very slightly warm as well.
I recently discovered your channel it really helped me improve my buying decisions thanks to your hard work! and btw there are various Thunderbolt 4 cables which claim 100W or 240W of power delivery in the market can you review them as well? Thank you so much.
Yeah, I have lots of cables to test and add to the list.
Thanks for the analysis.
You're welcome.
THX to the Video, you are best in this!
Wow, thanks!
I been watching your video. Really love it. Can you recommend me adapter for 15 pro max ? I can’t decide. What watt and adapter to use. Thank
Yeah, really anything 30 watts and down. The phone itself decides how much power to use so even this 70 watt will work but it's overkill for that job. The tiny chargers tend to get hot but there are many options, the Google 30W charger, Anker has the subcompact 30 watt charger, nano iii or something, the ugreen nexode 30w is a good budget option, belkins 30w charger is good.
I would love to see you review the Aohi Starship 40,000 mah 140 watt power bank. I just bought one. Thanks for all the great reviews !
Thanks, yeah that one is on the list. No idea when it'll make it. I have so many others. I might have to do a mega power bank video or something to catch up.
I have only had one issue with an Apple power adapter. It was a 30w one from around when the 12" Macbook first came out. For some reason on my 2020 MBA it will make it do the power chime every 5-10sec when the laptop is closed and just charging. Works flawlessly when the laptop is open and in use also works fine on my iPad pro or other non Apple devices. And other 30w ones (including the one that came with the MBA) all work flawlessly while closed. Just seems to be that, that charger and laptop dont like each other in certain conditions.
Other than that, the only time i have had one fail is due to external abuse, left in the rain, run over by a car to name a few. In fact i still have the adapter that came with my first iPhone (3GS) that works great.
In all honesty, Apple making the cable and adapter separate has def been a plus. I would always have issues with the Magsafe 1 and 2 cables fraying (and i honestly thing everyone did) and back then you had to replace the whole thing. Now can just get a nice braided USB C C cable for 1/3rd the cost of the Apple cable
Thanks for sharing! Yeah, I don't think any of these would survive the rain for long or a road, ha. The newer macbook pros can also charge with 140W via USB C to C so you don't have to get a magsafe cable if you don't want for maximum speed charging and operation.
First of all, thanks for your videos and the detailed analysis!
There is something I want to share with you and I would like to take your attention in the next videos: the long term charging process. My experience with such multiport chargers is really bad: I had tow of them, Baseus 100 W, 4 ports, GaN II, and Oraimo 120 W, 4 Ports.
The problem that when I keep my devices ( like a smartphone and a laptop ) connected and idle, where the devices are utilizing a really minimal current, the charger stops the current for a millisecond and negotiate with them, I have noticed that when the displays dimm and they give a chime sound.
In case of Baseus happens in regular intervals, which are longer if tow smartphones are connected instead of a smartphone and a laptop.
In case of Oraimo happens less frequently but each time consists of fast sequence from disconnecting und reconnecting.
If that happens when the devices are using a little current, what would happen when the devices really need charging and a lot of watt? I do not think such a behavior is really healthy for the battery or the electrical devices?
I think this technology is not mature enough, or I got really bad units.
Best regards
Thanks, yeah, it does happen. I demonstrate the behavior in a video using USB to power lights. It happens with all chargers and adapters to some degree. It is stated as a feature in many cases. The GaN2 from Baseus is certainly getting on in age at this point so it is not as fast or as consistent as modern devices. It's also less expensive and that cost is put somewhere. I use the Satechi 165W, and the port order matters, once you get it right it doesn't do any flashing or chiming in my case. Is this the case with your set of devices I'm not sure.
But it is true and you are correct that there is still some room to go on USB negotiation and device stability between charging and non-charging states and just in general. Of course a few high quality single port chargers eliminates this problem entirely.
Excellent work... Thank you...
Thanks for watching!
As undergrad EE who is interested in power electronics your channel is unfound gem. Any change to check out high power asus power adapters? Im thinking to get new one for my asus laptop and im curious about the how the stock one performs
Good to hear! Yeah, not sure on Acers adapters. I have a lower power one, the connector is a really tiny barrel plug. I'd imagine they'd change that out for the high power adapters. But yeah, haven't done anything with Lenovo laptops either.
Nice video. Do you think at some point you could review some ALOGIC bricks? I personally daily-drive a Rapid Power 2X68 right now, but I'm also curious about the mini 1X30 and 1X65. Nice video.
Thanks, I added those to the list.
No problem, I'm interested to see how they stack up with your tests.
Hi, I just discovered your channel and I have a question: Do you measure noise that chargers produce?
I literally had to return an Anker charger long time ago because it was making that annoying high frequency squeaky or buzzing kinda noise.
I’ve had the same problem with some Samsung charger, and some low level Voltcraft charger.
The only charger I’ve never had this issue is the original from Apple, no matter what it is: old 5W iPhone brick, 12W iPad charger, or MacBook bricks - none produces that annoying high frequency buzz, not under load, not at idle.
Since my devices are usually charging literally like 20-50cm max away from my ear this parameter alone is a HUGE dealbreaker.
If you haven’t tested for such noise before, maybe you could start doing that in the future? That would be tremendously helpful for people who are really sensitive to that noise.
Thank you for a very informative video!
Yeah, it is something to add for sure. I don't explicitly measure the noise as of now. I do mention it in the video if the noise is obvious or loud, but in the 'lab' area the equipment tends to make more noise than the adapter, fans in everything, also the power supply in the power analyzer squeals like an old TV so tends to mask the power adapter. But yeah, if the channel eventually takes off I will make a sound test room, amongst other things...
Heya hope your well. Is it worth buying the anker 325 at 29$? or are there any better options. I just need something to charge my phone in an emergency. or should i check the ugreen or iniu
Yeah, for a backup charger the Anker is a safe bet.
Hello. Could you review new Samsung 20.000 mah 45w Powerbank EB-P4520. Which is support PPS, fast charge etc.
Thanks for the suggestion!
Hi I like your reviews on chargers. If you don't mind could you please review the LDNIO A6140C 140W desktop charger. I already have it but it causes some touch screen issues on some phones. I would be pleased if you want to review it, I'd like to hear your opinion of this charger. Thanks.
Thanks, yeah, that is on the list, I'll need to do another 140W round since there have been a lot of chargers in that arena that have come out.
would you be able to do a review on theaukey pab6s? it's a 2c1a 90w wall charger. it's a bit on the older side and the power split is odd. maybe it's not worth it but I would like to see your thoughts on it even if you don't purchase it.
i do daily drive it and i love it, but i'm sure there's better alternatives now.
Never heard of that one, added it to the list at least. I might have one here that is the same as that from another company.
Hi I’m looking for a replacement for the dual usb-c Apple power adaptor of 35w. I need something portable, that can be used worldwide and that can charge simultaneously a switch or something else like an iPad Pro, and be hiked to the new Anker maggo 3 in 1 with MagSafe and QI2 for AirPods and Apple Watch. Thanks for your help 🙏🏻
Thanks for watching. You probably would have to go with something like an Anker to get compatibility with more devices. But this Apple adapter will work for all the Apple things even if a bit oversized for charging a watch.
plz try the ugreen nexode pro 100w plz
65w would also be okay cause i want a good travel charger with fast charging for all my devices
Yeah, I have it, I've been deadlocked on which video to make next so I keep making none.
Great video ! Can I request for the review of CMF by nothing 65W GaN Charger please?
Added to the list.
@@AllThingsOnePlace Thanks 😃
Do you test how the chargers perform when the source is delivering less watts? Like if I plug a 200w satechi into a plug that's delivering 230v/90w and actually try to usb out more than 90w.
In that case the source will go into protect mode before the adapter. So, my lab power supply will shut off if I power limit it to 90W, at 90.1W off. It has no wiggle room above the set point, but the set point is also VA based not watts, since AC.
Can you include data for Belkin chargers? Apple sells them in their Apple Stores, you’d think they’d be the same quality as Apple.
I haven't tested the belkins yet. I have them here though.
Is it normal for gan chargers to have a low around 50hz buzzing sound vs more traditional chargers?
No. If it's doing that you need to replace it ASAP. I had a cheap 100W charger a while ago, it would buzz when connected to my laptop and I opened a game or something. The laptop never drew more than 60W. Got rid of it ASAP
Yeah, a mains buzz from one of these adapters is not normal.
My laptop needs 20v 3.25A (that's what's listed on its power adapter) can I use a type C adapter cable rated for 20v/3A for it? Any way of knowing it'll charge before buying?
Yeah, it's odd that the trip point is 60 watts when most of the devices are 65 watts. I've found that in testing 60 watt cables will often run up to 65 watts but technically are operating in overload territory. An emarked cable would make sure you don't run into any negotiation issues.
@@AllThingsOnePlace I'm talking about an adapter cable to those round plugs. They're definitely emarked because they have to ask for a specific wattage. My laptop is one of the weird ones having usb c, even 3.1 spec, but not for charging. I just want to know if an emarker cable asking for 20v 3A would work here when the original power supply is rated for 20v 3.24A
Hi, will you do a review of the Nintendo Switch charger? Because it also has certain features combined with the dock.
If it uses a custom protocol I can't check that but I can check the USB Power Delivery performance, as I do for all of these.
@@AllThingsOnePlace That would be splendid. The thing that I want to know if it is a good charger for the road and thus for phones en laptop in the 30W range. And how it compares to others like Green, Apple, Baseus etc. Once charger to rule them all. Thanks in advance
Would it be possible for you to test USB rechargeable AA batteries? These are the kind that each battery is connected to a USB cable instead of using a normal charger they sit in. It would be good to know if they are faster or more efficient, or if they are just a sales gimmick.
Thanks for the suggestion!
I opted for the 67W brick with my M2 MacBook Air, they had just updated that brick from 67W. M2 specs say fast charging at 67W. However, when I check System Information, it only says it is charging at 65W despite being a 67W adapter. Where did the 2W go?
Haha, yeah, I think it's a marketing stunt and they're all 60W adapters, which became 65W, then 66, 67 and now 70W!!
I would love to see your research on Klaruslight K5 Waterproof Powerbank if you happen to get your hands on.
Thanks for the suggestion.
@@AllThingsOnePlace, thank you for what you are doing
got the 70w with my air and dont use it 😅. I use the 20w folding power adapter as even during my most strenuous use cases it makes do. Been doing photo editing why on a 20w charger and gained charge why working across 3-4 hours
Nice. Yeah, the lower power chips are incredible. I know someone who has a 'max' chip and that rips through the battery pretty fast during video editing.
I am buying MacBook Pro M3 Pro and totally confused between 70 watt and 96 watt power adapter.
Can anyone just simply explain which should I go for??
The 96W.
I have a question on cables. Who do you believe makes the highest quality cables? Usb C to lightning? Usb C to Usb C? Also the latest Thunderbolt? Hoping it’s a single brand but understand it may not be. Please help.
It depends on what you need. Lightning is worse, I've tested lots of them they always test worse than any good USB C to C cable so these can't be the best quality. C to C and Thunderbolt can be one in the same but it all comes down to high speed data or no high speed data. Quality depends on needs and two basic needs for USB cables exist. Basic USB C to C cables operate at USB 2 speeds still but can offer the full speed charging. With the thinner data wires they have more room for power wires so can be more performant in the power space. Thunderbolt or USB 4 cables sacrifice some power capability to offer incredibly high data rates. They also tend to be thicker and more stiff cables. I really should just start making shorts to answer these comments.
In terms of brand loyalty on cables I have none. I use the the way off brand ZEEXUS cable for high data needs and reasonable charging speed. I obviously use the Satechi short cables constantly, in the video production. Those don't leave the bench though. Cable creations for my USB A to C. The amazon basics ones aren't bad for the money. In the end it's what you need, charging 'efficiency' or low resistance, data requirements, then resilience of the cable.
@@AllThingsOnePlace that helps some. I found your data sheet after sending that message. Appreciate all the detail and time on your channel. I will be following you closely.
Nice vid mate
Thanks!
can you make a video with chargers that can substitute the bad quality in box chargers from Redmi. I have bought a few chargers but they just charge at 12-20w even if my in box charger charge at 120w or 67w...
mostly the cable i don't like it breaks all the time and is hard short and stiff plastici
Its likely that ur phone throttles the wattage to 12-20w. the 120w can only happen when the device allows it, such as a computer or a laptop. i charge my airpods and it automatically throttles to 5w due to its small battery
@@joshau2346 yeah but it charges at 120w with the original charger so it is possible.
Redmi/Xiaomi 120w chargers and cables use a proprietary charging specification (not USB-PD). So you're not going to find many alternative chargers.
Also, 120W charging is marketing. It's the PMPO of power amplifiers.
@@AllThingsOnePlace thanks for taking your time to explain to a caveman like me.. I think I'm just gonna have to use the inbox chargers it sounds like. possibly the cuktech charger/powerbank I will try I've seen a video where that cuktech powerbank charges a phone at 120w. I believe they are under the same umbrella corporation as Xiaomi. 👊🏽
I use the original 5 w adapter for my Apple Watch and iPhone - no reason to burn up the batteries as I charge overnight.
It is functional. It is very inefficient. 70odd percent.
Yo, is there any chance you could make a review for AOHI 40,000mAh powerbank?
Yes ! I just asked for that one because I just bought one.
haha, it's on the list, I don't have one yet though.
Could you do a video explaining leakage current? I’ve felt it but never found anyone state what that is until I came across your videos. Is this current dangerous in any way? Is there anything that can be done to prevent it? Also is the presence of it a sign of anything bad or potentially going bad?
Also would love to hear about that 230 volt thing.
Not familiar with the technicalities of electronics and electrical stuff. Look forward to the possibility of learning more through the vids. Thank you!
So leakage current is when some voltage escapes the packaging and circulates around the power adapter (from my understanding). As to what it feels like, I had a Lenovo laptop paired with 45 Watt Lenovo charger. Whenever I wrapped my hand around the charging brick to move it around, I would feel a tingling sensation in my hand.
Leakage current can be dangerous if it is too high, but it mostly comes down to that tingling when you touch your metal device.
230v is used mostly in Europe and switching power supplies are more efficient on it
I am well acquainted with this concept from my old Titanium PowerBook and ungrounded outlets 😅
So, the current around the adapter is a different thing but also a thing. The leakage to the output is the concept in this video, this is caused by the components inside the adapter, there is a small amount of coupling between the AC mains side and the DC output side. This varies adapter to adapter and causes the output tingling. The case of the adapter should be very isolated, if the body of the adapter leaks that much that's concerning.
In general the rule is that an adapter will consume more idle power but be more efficient on 230V due to current being lower, but in this case the current demand is so high from the Apple adapter, it hurts the efficiency on 230V. It's still excellent but it's lower than when operated on 120V.
Thanks that was interesting
Glad you enjoyed it
Can you test the SlimQ 150w USB-C charger?
Yeah, I need to get my hands on the newer ones, the older ones are on the channel already. They reach out through odd ball 3rd parties, it all looks like a scam. They'll be back on at some point though.
@@AllThingsOnePlace thanks... looking forward to it. I have the 150w USB-C charger, and while the build quality does not hold a candle (not even close) to my Anker bricks, I have been happy with it thus far. I am especially interested to see if the bigger brick renegotiates when load is added/removed... If memory serves the smaller 100w did not.
Please begin evaluating the RF noise level generated by these products. I’ve noticed FCC logos on some of the products you review, but you don’t seem to address this issue
I can't do that, do I want to, sure, because yes, some of these are lying... but that's big business, about $10k per day to rent one of those labs. Lets do some scamonomics, LTT has 15 million subs, I have 0.2% of that, they make 1.5 million (just ad sense) a year, that means I make $3000 a year, yeah, some people think that's too much, should be zero... Room for improvement, check that on the audit box.
@@AllThingsOnePlace a faraday box is about $3k. Hobbyists SDRs are about $2k.
Does it works well for M1 Pro Macbook 14?
It should be a good match for that machine.
Mine came with a 140W charger. Huge overkill but at the same time it's a super fast charge
Yeah, I'd pick the 96W plus chargers anytime.
Hello new subscriber here can you debunk the multi charger, I mean is it good enough? if its good I hope you notice me i"ll put the link came from amazon
It depends on your needs. I use a 4 port charger, the Satechi 165W, it isn't for everyone, it has quirks for sure, but I'm able to charge all my devices and don't have interruptions on charge finished, etc. The single port charger of course is always going to be a bit more stable. If your device is battery powered though the multiport charger is generally a good solution to multiple adapters.
Hi. I’m planning to buy a new M3 MacBook Air 13” next week. I’m in an enigmatic situation whether to choose the 35W or 70W charger. I don’t need a dual compact charger at all but I have read in some places that fast charging (70W) causes quicker battery degradation than when using standard charging (35W). What is your opinion regarding this? Please advise me what to choose. Thank you in advance.
Well I missed the return comment speed, ha, what did you end up going with? I would've picked the 70W, laptop batteries are fairly large and well managed so I wouldn't expect degradation at the pace that happens on things like phones between 35 and 70 watt speeds.
@@AllThingsOnePlacethank you I’m gonna buy with the 70W one then
I’d love to see the best travel adapter with a detachable cord video. I am still using the Anker 65W slim, but the 2 USB-A ports are slowly becoming a limitation.
I use Belkin 108W, solid charger I can recommend :)
Yeah, not a bad upgrade.
No power factor correction if I'm reading your equipment right.
Yeah, this is actually one of the worst for power factor and distortion. It makes sense though, like the framework 60W, oversize other components to make it last longer, this does marginally improve real power performance as that is all the standards ask for. I have obviously heavily shifted to standards based reactions, which is a narrow picture, but the standards are the published guidelines we have to work with, also written by the manufacturers. When analyzed on a one device basis, which is all anyone ever does, it's fine.
I think I saw an open box one of those for like, $20, I wish I bought it tbh.
Can't beat that.
Did they have to summon Jony Ive to design rounded corners, as on a candy-bar phone? Maybe that was the extra cost.
theyve been using this shape of charger for over 20 years, my 2003 apple firewire charger is the exact same shape, the price really is the apple tax in full swing
The shape maintains compatibilities with the extension cables from many years ago also. The value is still better than what they charge for storage. New iPads with 128GB.
Hola, le informo que los listados de seguridad bajo las etiquetas N, NOM y NYCE, obedecen a las normativas mexicanas. Lo anterior lo sé ya que estos símbolos se incluyen en los adaptadores de Samsung distribuidos en México.
Thanks!
I miss the 2000-era winding cables, though I also want USB-C
Yeah, haven't seen those in a long time.
Apple would have added 2w but that would not be a good name so added extra 1w to make it round value 70W. BTW which is the Amazon basics 65W?
B087MD5MYH search for that on Amazon.
Just checked the one that came with my MacBookAir and it's only 30W?
I can charge my MacBook Pro M1 Max off the 18W USB charger for the iPhones, trust me you are okay 👍
@@NikolaiCherepanov Yea it charges just fine, just surprised they have more than doubled the wattage.
Yeah, just a bit faster charging.
Why do you think Apple doesn’t use GaN? Do you think it’s a “we don’t care” thing due to volume, or something about producing GaN at scale, whether the expense or marginal safety difference or something else?
They use GaN in the 140W adapter. I'm not sure if this one does or not, I think they choose not to advertise it like everyone else. The marketing materials are interesting though.
I'm wondering if you would be interested in testing the Nekteck GaN Charger 100W USB C Charger (2C1A ASIN B0BPM9W1VF). Although it looks like a cheap adapter on first look, it actually possesses TüV c/US and DOE VI labels, and the review of a similar adapter marketed only in China (also made by Stiger) showed it reasonable efficiency and idle power consumption, but I wonder whether they might have cut corners elsewhere (no PFC, safety issues etc.)
That's the same charger as the minix and invzi.
@@AllThingsOnePlace The two 100w adapters you were referring each have 3 USB-c ports, this one only has 2 USB-c ports. The 66w Minix adapter you reviewed has the same port configuration, but this one is an 100w adapter.
please compare 87 and 96 wattt
Yeah, I’ve only been doing the newer ones.
Overall PQS seems quite low (58).. Would you consider this product inferior to Amazon Basics 65W or Belkin 108W which both have much higher overall PQS? Great testing as always, keep up the great work! :)
You are the only one to notice or comment on that. But yes, it is very low. Essentially, it will end up being on par with the Amazon Basics for household energy use even though it should be more efficient. Assuming you only have one of them, and no other non-PFC switching power supplies in your residence.
I won't be buying this adapter as I have the 67W one from my MBP, and I have the Anker 3-port adapters for travel, but it's good to hear that Apple has improved upon the 67W adapter with this one.
Yeah, there's no reason to upgrade, really just comparing what they ship with the newest laptops.
Where is the THD thats the main information you missed out where can I get it?
In an effort to make the videos more user friendly and more in line with government regulations that data is no longer included.
This the side of CZcams I’m happy to be on
Thanks!
Support ipad pro m4 ?
I don't see why not.
@@AllThingsOnePlace I can't see the ipad pro in the Compatibility list on the website.
My 60watt adapter with mb pro 16inch m1 pro died in a month. Apple service center replace it with new one.
Yeah, there are always going to be some failures, thanks for sharing, also glad to hear they replaced it.
You should check out the Baseus Blade 2 next, it's super thin and I'm curious if it have the same problems as the previous.
Thanks, yeah it is on the list. No idea when.
I’m still on my 61w charger
Nice!
A quality 65 watt GaN charger only costs 35 USD on Amazon.
Apple 70 watt charger is about 60 bucks.
In terms of build quality and efficiency Apple may pull ahead, but I’ve got a UGREEN 100w charger (think it was around $60) with 3 USB C ports and one USB A port - which has been great!
After having a bad experience with third-party products like Anker, I mainly go for Apple now unless I don't have a choice. You're paying a premium for a reason, don't cheap out if possible.
@@Ben21756 what is the reason?
@@DerekDavis213 To give some context, I first tried charging my Sony XM5 with the Apple as I normally do, but it wouldn't charge, aside from that nothing else happened. I then tried it with Anker and it completely fried the charging port of my XM5, would've caused a fire if I hadn't noticed the overheating. So from what I understand, Apple has an extra layer of safety protection that Anker doesn't have, as it detected an unsafe charging environment and refused to initiate charging, Anker didn't, creating a fire hazard.
hmm. That sounds dangerous, curious what happened to the sony to make it act that way.
Do you know HOTA H24 245W GaN Gallium Nitride AC Adapter which can be also used to power any laptops?
There is the main module, the HOTA H24 and it's PD3.1 module P24.
Should be very nice to test this cheap power supply with that PD 3.1 module to see what this time the chines has cooked for us again.
yeah that's something to check out, I also have a subcompact 300w one I got on ebay.
Quietly updated?
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Haha. True.
Aohi - no , The Starship and 100 watt 30000 mah power banks are the worst I've ever used. I don't do laptops , just my LG V60. Starship took over 5 hours to charge it. The other one took a half hour longer than usual. Maybe they only do those super fast Samsung and Xiomi phones. Maybe they work great with laptops but not my V60. Customer service is the worst .
Yeah, Aohi is an often requested brand. I'm sure I will check that power bank out eventually, sounds like it is missing some modes of operation.
In reality this adapter just like the 140W one is probably no different than an OEM barrel jack you get with your old PC laptop. It's a pack-in product, not something to be sold besides replacements
ok.
The real story is Apple adapters last where others don’t.
I’ll leave the following comment here because CZcams won’t let me post it to the original thread on the Framework adapter review:
On each amazon product page there is a box that allows you to search reviews on that product. I recommend searching “fail”, “d*ad”, and “di*d” (replace the * with e) on each of the products you are considering. I did so on each of the products reviewed by this channel in the 140W class as well as some others. That confirmed to me that the failures I saw weren’t anomalous.
The Framework power supply is obviously too new to have much of a review history so it might be better to stick with those with a longer track record. I just did that search on a few of the most recent vintage of ~140W adapters. The recent negative reviews suggest that problem remains.
Thanks! Yeah, I think apple or their OEM at apples request, spends more time analyzing thermals and MTBF, and also makes sure the adapter doesn't spend too much time at heavy loads by software limiting or thermal throttling the computers. Those cheap as chips 140W adapters I don't think get that same treatment.
So Iniu has released a new 25W power adapter. Im guessing in response to Samsung's new 25W charger.😂
Not sure in reaction to, but yeah, I'm sure I'll look at it. I did a short on one of the Iniu chargers, it was okay.
@@AllThingsOnePlace seems to be available only on their aliexpress store front. Not on their website or Amazon store front 🤔
I'm probably going to pick up one of the Samsung new efficient chargers and use the iniu 65W charger for on the go charging. Going to be a while before Samsung releases an efficient model for the 65W class
Maybe other companies should practice what Apple does as far as manufacturing standards go. 🤔
It's more expensive.
If people was so religious they would not have a apple correct
Not sure.
3 extra watts. Tim Cook is a genius!
Wait until next year. 70 wait for it.. plus 1 watt!
@@AllThingsOnePlace still waiting for my extra watt charging brick. Apple slacking. Tsk.
Isn’t it all nominal anyway?
The average of the average.
@@AllThingsOnePlace pretty much me
C O U R A G E ?
haha, I wrote it in and then I was like nah, too easy.
Just found you - great vids, subbed! I was on travel a year ago and needed a charger, found this target house-branded jobby for ~35 and did a double-take: target 68w-gan-charger-heyday-8482-stone-white #A-84145751. Seemed like a little gem in a sea of garbage so I bought it and it's been my EDC ever since, takes whatever I throw at it. Despite that, I still have my doubts to its quality so I'm curious what your thoughts are.
I figure we're all looking for good options so maybe this one is decent but overlooked because it's a budget big-box house brand. or I should throw mine away immediately? ^_^
I used to recommend these Apple chargers to everyone in the early days of USB charging, but like you mention here, I feel like Apple is more catering to what they need from a charger these days rather than being compatible with everything.
haha, if it's held up this long it's probably in it for the long haul. I did add it to the list though. I've tried a few branded chargers like walmart, monoprice, Ikea, Best Buy (insignia) but yeah haven't tried target. I need to go on a drive around and pick up a bunch of random bits and pieces from the various chains. Yeah, this apple charger is good but it really is for apple devices.