Why English Football Fans Are The WORST
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Germans are middle class folk festival fans that steal Italian support culture lol
Our 5th division has higher attendances than some of your clubs in your top division that's whats really embarrassing.......
German middle class folk festival fans copying Italian support culture..not impressive and never will be
As a Dutchman been to many European games, last year at City a few times, including the championship game. Fantastic atmosphere, nothing wrong with that, but no hysteria or exaggerated hassle, just as it should be, real football fans, but yes everything is different in the rain, a child understands that. In Holland it is much too aggressive, big tunnels, high nets because the supporters are aggressive towards the players, if that is what you are looking for, stay away from England.
As a dutchman ass well i can say its partially true, they put in a other kind of support as the rest of Europe does with. And i liked how the English did it back in the days just chanting and creating a hype on whats happening on the field. But i think we can both agree it isnt what it was anyomore due to toerist coming from all over the world and ridicules prices so that only the rich cabn come in. Those arent people coming from the same area supporting the local team. And thats deffentaly affecting the atmosphere if you ask me. If i look at a top game its deadly silence all game long. Not the same with smaller clubs in England by the way
when city were crap it was all about the fans and all that now they are good we go for the football
Dutch fans are better tho and the matches are affordable
Leaving early after beating Bayern 3:0 in the Champions League quartefinal is being a real fan? What a dumb statement...
I like the english atmosphere because it's chill and relaxed, and as you said no violence like other parts of europe .
I don't know why people like to glorify ultras and pyros, it's just make everything dangerous
Not a fair comparison. English football culture has never been about ultras, and the officials have done what they can to kill what's left, with increased prices, assigned seats for every ticket, CCTV etc. Not many ordinary citizens can afford a season ticket to Prem these days. The atmosphere gets better in Championship and below.
Germans copied their football culture straight from Italy, so there is not much is original there. And who cares about Bundesliga, it's such a dead league. No wonder supporters need to entertain themselves.
Facts. These guys are just jealous of the premier league
Yeah man! It seems dumb comparing English football fans with the culture of ultras. If this guy want to succeed making his channel at least did some research or learn some history and rules before mocking their fans.
German fan here. First of all, I really like english atmospheres. It differs from us, but that's not automatically a bad thing. Although I find it sad that pricing is so high that some stadiums are filled with plastic fans and consumers rather than the really passionate ones. That's why I love standing in Germany - many more fans can pay these prices.
Yes, ultra culture began in Italy. But it quickly emerged all over Europe for a good reason. Young people love supporting their team this way. If you think that is "copying", so be it. I am sure though that many english football chants are copied from other clubs aswell... Like everyone does.
German ultra scenes are different than italian ones though. They developed an own style. Like ultras in France, Serbia, Bekgium, the Netherlands and so on all did. Might be the same idea behind it, but the differences are there. And I think that is amazing. Even small clubs here in Germany have creative, amazing small ultras scenes, coming up with their own chants, their own flags, their unique little ideas of how they wanna express themselves. And this makes german football unique for me. Also many groups are active against antisemitism, racism and sexism. This has made stadium experiences in Germany much better over the last 20 years. And this plus a relatively strict separation from hooligans makes german ultras unique.
But again, I like english Atmosphäre aswell! I just think it's sad that there is so much hate and mocking instead of just acknowledging the differences
@@9751_ No one in Germany is Jealous of the Premier League hahaha, we have 50+1 Rule, you know?
@@TheTespin 50+1 is the reason your league is uncompetitive and Bayern win every year.
Interesting video, especially as it was filmed from my section in the Etihad. I was there last night and can see myself a few times in the background. This is a section of the ground where the support varies between PL & CL games - it's a cheaper section and whilst I'm fortunate I could go, a lot of season ticket holders will miss out due to prices and affordability. This is sadly due to the sheer cost of attending any game at the moment for most clubs.
I'd argue if you wanted to really feel the atmosphere, the sections behind the goal next to the away fans are better for this.
We've played three German teams this season and each set of fans have brought great numbers, which I respect. However, there are fundamental differences between how British supporters and continental fans generate an atmosphere. We'll always be behind the team, but the atmosphere will ebb and flow more in line with the match.
I'm not so sure on the Bayern style chanting, it can end up feeling a bit detached from the game. My feeling is the players react more if the atmosphere is building in line with attacks etc, rather than a constant chant - it gets a bit repetitive.
Spot on
You clearly have never been to a big game in Germany lol the Stadium plays along with attacks, fouls and goals the same way as you do and goes back to errupting the Stadium in loud chants. I don't even know why you try to excuse it when you already mentioned the reason. Ticket prizes are just insanely expensive for a lot of the true fans in England and i am scared of it happening here too.
Maine road was louder, don’t make excuses for having a crap atmosphere. Newcastle or even tourist filled Old Trafford and Anfield are louder for big European games.
Worry about your 100 charges mate
@@trippinmoonjuice6734 Same with lots of italian games like remember the milan derby where they had to end a champions league game early because the inter flares got on the pitch and started basically settting the grass on fire.
I was in the south stand and we were singing so loud all night, idk this guy was in a pretty bad area tbf. It's also different if you're actually a fan of the team cause of the emotion. regardless city games still great to watch as its the best football in the world
english fans are a joke compared to all other countrys in Europe
Hahahaha ... good joke. Not a single Premiere League Club has fans, that sing all game long... or "loud" XD. You have to go to lower leagues in England or in any othe country in europe to experience fans, who support their team the whole game.
In every Bundesliga game the stands are atleast half full 1 hour before kickoff and only a few leave early or right with the final whistle. The supporters also sing for at least a quarter hour after the game is over (except for Leipzig and Hoffenheim). And that is in every league game and not just the KO stage in Championsleague.
And you have the audacity to talk big about the shitty fans of your plastic club, that deserves to be excluded from every competition. Your so called "fans" were leaving early in a QF CL match. You are part of the problem modern football has. If you have only a little bit of dignity left, you would stop supporting a club, that is owned by a foreign country - only to sportwash their uncivilized actions. Find a lower league team or atleast a team, that doesn't belong to people who only use the sport for their selfish desires.
When you can't attack the club's performance level so you attack the "fans"
Ikr 😂 just venting his frustration
That's literally the point of his channel to rate atmospheres in stadiums
Because everybody can buy a team with oil money.
@@jaaaa9965 O como el Madrid recalificando terrenos…
@@moustachebonjour9050... He clearly "Edits" them to suit his opinion....🙄
I’m a Liverpool fan and also get annoyed by the lack of atmosphere. Having said that I’ve come to realise that the English football is very much a reaction to what is happening on the pitch. The game against Arsenal was also quiet until there was an incident and then the crowd came to life. There is more emotional attachment, having said that I also love the German fans, they’re so organised and full of vibrancy and energy. English fans should try and emulate their Germany counterparts and create a group of supporters who are responsible to keep the atmosphere alive!
Leipzig fans were way worst than any English club at Etihad.
@@seanparker8145 i think any foreign club that has to have 3 leaders at the front of the away end to actually make noise is terrible😂
Fair comment!! Thank you sir❤️
I was thinking the same, so weird only after they come ahead they get activated, kinda lame.
@@seanparker8145 Well, Red Bull is not considered a football club here.
You can't see worse performance of a club and you starts counting their fans only thing you can do😂
If you don't like the atmosphere in England, don't go, like the City fans care what you think. Absolute divvy.
City’s atmosphere is class! Bitter you lad
It’s class for you because you support them. To everybody else it’s subpar.
@@Aisatsana1971 okay fella 😂 keep telling yourself that
@@samshozza1738 it’s the truth. Outside the city fan echochamber you will not hear any praise.
@@Aisatsana1971 that’s a lie people are starting to realise City’s good atmosphere is real not what a load of virgins off Twitter believe
@@Aisatsana1971 oh yeah & that’s at home and away
I think coming to the etihad and just slating us is a bit ridiculous I can’t lie. The atmosphere at the etihad is so hard to generate because we have one singing section. Obviously I wish we could do all the pyro and displays but often ideas just get knocked down by the club for ‘safety reasons’. We had a big tifo planned for this game which would have been amazing. But last minute the club cancelled it from under the 1894 groups feet on the basis ‘it was too windy’. If you want to look at the issue with atmosphere, it’s mainly the league or the clubs that water it down so tourists feel a bit better, look at the difference between ALL premier league teams, it’s not just us, and non league teams where there aren’t such strict regulations, and you’ll see it’s not the fans. It’s the higher ups. I went to dortmund this season and the atmosphere was great, I would say more Constant>loud, but the idea of someone in a balaclava and a megaphone starting the chants in England is laughable, and tbh, that I agree with
Yeah I hope that they turn the extension on the family stand into a large singing end, as are away support it unmatched in the premier league, however our home support can be lacking
agreed
Didn’t really work out that video for you as you planned I guess 😂
Was expecting a summary at the end on the terrible atmosphere you witnessed but didn’t happen.
You compared the bus arriving to a random video of Betis v Sevilla. We can all pull them videos together for every single fierce derby game across Europe.
I have been to Bayern as an away fan and it is what you like really. Bayern fans are a bit robotic so only chant if someone is banging a drum, otherwise just deathly silence.
You said there was no chanting or supporting the team from the fans, literally what game did you go to!? If you are around the away fans it is pretty standard for their to be back and forth between the sets of fans, but mostly it will be singing City or player related songs.
I would agree atmospheres have become not as good over the years mainly due to Vloggers and tourists taking up a lot of the seats pissing about on their camera all game.
Also over priced tickets for games particularly in the Champions League and Premier League which has unfortunately priced out a lot of core City fans who would have supported them in the tougher times.
Maybe come back for City v Fulham and you may get the video you were after mate.
Well you can't switch the atmosphere on like a lightbulb, it's instilled in a clubs dna? I can assure you after visiting multiple grounds in the premier league man City doesn't even rank in the top 5 of the premier league?
@@mymemories925 As a season ticket holder at city, the crowd is a lot different on European nights, as virtually everyone around me who is sat down for premier league games is not there.
@@killiancullen6430 agree mate - I am a ST holder in 326 and it’s exactly the same, it’s only me, my Dad and one other lad who goes to the league games and the CL games, everyone else is day trippers and folks looking for a better view than their usual spot
@@mymemories925 instilled in a clubs DNA 😂😂😂 - Jesus Christ
Bro what the fuck i am Bayern Munich Fan and there is singing all the fucking Time in germany it is normal That we have a guy who Starts the singing and the everyone falls in. The Atmosphere in germany is 1000000000000 times better please inform yourself better
Whatever you said, I am a city fan and proud of our fans
Atmosphere is really bad though. Probably worst in world football
Same bro
@@RMCM1872 what just cuz we don't scream at the top of our lungs every match our atmosphere is bad
@@devangagoswami5278 It's not only the atmosphere. City fans have no dignity. You support a club that is owned by a country with serious human right problems. You help them to sport wash their crimes. The Emirates have more forced labours than Nazi Germany in the 1930s. - yeah, be proud of your club, idiot.
@@Bornevalesh What does that have to do, idiot, so the people who support an English, Spanish or French club have no dignity because the country they belong to committed the worst atrocities with people in Africa and America?
Bro how fast are you
Tf
even in the match city fans were singing the blue moon. They were chanting "COME ON CITY!!!!" SO MANY TIMES. I just stumbled upon your channel. I would like to say this. Each club fans are different. And your video is very biased lol
If you want a good atmosphere in the uk, go into league one or league two. Fratton park has an INCREDIBLE atmosphere. Home park is LOUD. And there are so many clubs below the prem that have a way better atmosphere then the premier league plastics. I would love to see @Groundhopper FC. At a lower league game. Keep up the good work.
Lmao, this video is so selective. I also noticed you turn the volume down after each goal / chance to make it appear the celebrations are muted. Lame. I was there and it was nothing like how you portrayed it.
You might be right but many times during that match, all you could hear was bayern fans. The atmosphere should be much better for the level of football you lot get week in, week out
@@MrSD-YO i agred that Bayern fans are really loudly but i dont like The way They are chanting i love british fans beacause They are chanting at each other
that is because of the microphone on the camera, if you look at his other videos the same happens when a goal is scored
Bayern Munich. The definition of plastic fans.😆😆😁😁😁😁😁
Your stupid
Just discovered you content recently and I’m in love with it, showing others experiences that they wouldn’t otherwise be able to see. Very entertaining videos and always listening to your fans. Would u mind going a Crystal Palace game sometime in the future? Those are where some of the best fans in England are (and we always have ultras as well!)
Appreciate you bro!!! ❤️
Went there with norwich last year and can confirm that your home support is one the best in the prem :)
You're at a match vlogging yourself and making comments about people with their phones out. The irony
Man literally edited the video to make City quieter how pathetic 😂😂
How’s this guy trying too show a clip of no fans near end of the game
When on tv city players did full lap of the pitch after whistle and passing their tops too fans who all stayed as you could clearly see
Lol he’s obviously trying to push some sort of agenda, you can clearly hear he’s muted the volume at parts of the video
He’s such a troll. Fails to mention the weather was horrendous and those like myself sat close around the pitch got SOAKED and moved to stand in the aisle after half time. Probably didn’t notice sat in his cushty free corporate seat. It was completely sold out which is obvious.
He's got a narrative, and he needs to confirm it
A full lap?? Haha. 😭 they hardly came across the pitch. After 5 mins when the end song ended the stadium was empty
@@9751_ English support is sh*t and everybody knows it. its just PL fanboys and Brits who keep making up excuses for it like jealousy or pushing an agenda. living in the past not willing to accept the reality that the support is a joke
😂😂😂😂 nice Thomas tuchel impression bell end
Maybe if we banned kn*bheads filming and vloging the atmosphere would be better? I was at that game and what Groundhopper has failed to mention was that Manchester was being battered by 60 km/h winds and heavy rain...not a great combo for noise in an open area before the ground. It was great to have taken the Bayern drums off them, their organised chanting is embarrasing. True atmosphere is based on what happens on the pitch. And people leave early beciase we have a truly awful transport system here in Manchester. I live 7 miles away and it takes almost 90 mins to get home.
When they were naming names at the bus coming in you said everyone’s quiet when they named perrone who’s played about 10mins since he joined and Sergio who has like 45 mins max game time😂
@James we may not have the best home fans sometimes but he’s tried to make it out like we are all plastics and even when the fans were having a good time he calls it embarrassing 😂
So? Support every player at your club
@George it's not about supporting or not supporting, but rather the reaction certain players generate. It's obvious that the starting 11 and the other top players will get the biggest reactions, especially from the youth who obsessively wear their kits. I'm not sure I've seen more than a couple Perrone and Sergi Gomez jerseys
Right? Dude even edited the sound lower and added another audio over it. Clickbait title
@@JCM718 going to get even more hate this season after winning the treble
Ik sluit mij hier volledig bij aan! De Engelse voetbal cultuur staat bekend om prachtige casual kleding, massaal aanwezig en grappige songs. Verder is het niks vergeleken eigenlijk alle Europese landen. Dat spandoek van Chelsea schijnt ook nog steeds heen en weer te gaan over de supporters achter het doel…… Keep up the good work en ga vooral naar andere landen 😂👌🏻
Copying Italian ultras culture is nothing to be proud of.....tra la la la la la la [insert name] 🤖... embarrassing . Would never want goofy ultras in England
Appreciate this! ❤️
I agree with this too. This is some this is fans in Scotland have noticed too. English fans are vastly overrated.
Stop crying, I know its hard to digest that Man City destroyed your so called best team in a farmer league. EPL > Poopdesliga farmer league💩💩
Next time you need to stand on the other side of the away fans then you will feel more atmosphere, believe me!
Great video! I think something to consider about the English game is the UK government since Margaret Thatcher has done everything in their power to suppress fans. No drinking in football stands but is allowed in every other sport (to curb hooliganism), you can get kicked out of a ground for standing, the police now record everything in the stands so you are treated like a criminal before the ball has been kicked. Sadly these measures have had their intended effect and yet football is still the most passionate sport in the UK. I'm a Leicester fan and our atmosphere has been abysmal all season (but that might have something to do with the lack of results haha). It also helps when fans really have something to go at, LCFC's champions league run was electric and made 32'000 sound like 60'000 (because it was such an event), same goes when I was at Wembley for the FA cup final, covid only allowed 8'000 of each fans and Chelsea had the CL on their minds, we had failed 4 times to win the cup so we made 8K sound like 30'000. It's one of the reasons why supporting smaller clubs has so many benefits, when you dont expect trophies and actually win one it is a feeling like no other.
My German friends tell me the Allianz is gloomier and more boring than an autopsy.
haha, they like entertainment. like the PL no atmosphere
Not true, ive been there twice and the südkurve is very loud. Ive also been to Barcelona and that is very boring. Maybe you are talking about the Allianz Stadium in Torino
@@jakubsedlacek7934 No, in Munich; they live in Bavaria and explicitly said it was at a Bayern game.
@@kodiak64 I was joking. But Bayern have good fans, you cant know, if you havent been there.
Allianz arena is a poor atmosphere unless a big game like most big teams. Just banging the bloody drum.
Bro jou edit skills zijn wel heel goed nog geen 20 klaar man
In England we are not allowed pyros that’s why it’s a rare occasion when they are used, our atmosphere differs from the rest of Europe, you guys all have ultras etc we don’t we just have main stand(s) that sing more than others. Chants are mainly about taking the mick (joking) about other clubs and not everyone jumps up and down etc
Drums and ultra groups are laughed at which I think is wrong and stupid, personally I would love ultras to be introduced into English football
You think in Europe pyro is legal??
Ultras would ruin english fotball not a tradisjon and makes The sound from The fans fake
@Daemon Targaryen Nope, those are hooligans, not ultras
@Daemon Targaryen Not quite, the ultra culture In Europe was created in Italy
How🤦♂️Ur deluded
it doesnt make sense that if the fans dont burn the fucking field there is no atmosphere, clearly the atmosphere is amazing, you just went in with the mentality that it wont be as good which is why you dont like it...
There happenes nothing on the stands
I’m English but our fans don’t even come close to most European supporters. Especially the Germans, they do it best!
On 30.4. in austria there is the biggest game ever. The first time in history in the cup final is rapid vienna playing against sturm graz. These two teams have the best fans in austria and the atmosphere will be unbelievable. Would be nice if you could make a video and visit this game😇
So why would this be the biggest game ever in Austrian football? None of the derbies? But rather a game that is being played for the first time ever at the cup final?
@@turtlewhohatescabbage1157 cause these two have the best fanbases in austria
Hajduk - Dinamo much better game
@@turtlewhohatescabbage1157 because rapid vienna and sturm graz have the best ultras in austria by far and its the most traditional duell in austria
@@PM-mg8eq No Austria - Rapid is the most traditional duel - from a LASK fan
The jealous mob are out in force, this is the real Manchester team.
Would rather the atmosphere at English grounds where fans are actually reacting to what is happening on the pitch. Bayern fans were mindless on Tuesday, completely choreographed, no disappointment at being 3-0 down, what's the point?
Het is fijn en goed dat je hier eerlijk en duidelijk over bent. Ik ben zelf ook naar een paar wedstrijden in Engeland geweest en het valt gewoon tegen. De meeste fans in Engeland zijn helaas best verwaand en pretentieus omtrent voetbalsfeer. Ik vind het prachtig hoe ze soms met duizenden mensen op een woensdagavond naar het uiteinde van een land gaan voor een awayday, en de grootte getalen waarin ze gaan moet je ze ook echt nageven. Maar de sfeer is bizar slecht. Arsenal probeert een soort ultras clubje te maken. Het leeft daar nu veel meer en ik hoor dat de sfeer dat nu een stuk beter is. Aan de andere kant heb je veel Engelsen die vinden dat de Arsenal “ultras” zich moeten schamen. Ik ben heel erg benieuwd hoe het daar is. Zou gaaf zijn als je daar nog een keer heen gaat en een video over maakt. Verder was dit weer een top video!
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denk niet dat er perse ultras hoeven te komen voor een goeie sfeer maar dat er in engeland iets moet veranderen is zeker zo
Je hebt inderdaad op het hoogste niveau alleen clubs als Leeds, Aston Villa, Newcastle en bijvoorbeeld Everton die echt een lekkere sfeer hebben.
Op championship en league one niveau is het nog iets puurder en meer volks en dus ook meer sfeer.
@@pepi1399 Precies, ultras is gewoon een gemaakte sfeer vind ik. Kijk naar Feyenoord, die sfeer moet terugkomen in Engeland. Maarja zo lang de kaarten alleen voor de upper class betaalbaar zijn zal dat hem niet worden..
Cheerleaders are embarrassing half naked men on microphones banging drums and playing with fireworks is seen as goofy....most ultras in central Europe sing generic songs ....ultras is a stolen fan culture from Italy.....that's embarrassing
Quick word about the atmosphere topic: I was always hating on british atmosphere as well. The thought of no organized fans and no ultras was making me think of really dead stadiums. A year ago I went to a premier league game at the Emirates, which I really enjoyed. Although it is something completely different to the organized atmosphere in other parts of Europe or the world, I don’t think that should mean that it’s bad. The fascination of the game in the UK is definitely at least as big as it is in the rest of the world. In the end it is just a question of the football culture in different parts of the world. Just like the atmosphere in South America, Asia or Africa differs as well.
So I think it’s hard to compare these two completely different stadium experiences. And since it’s still the motherland of football, I think we should respect their way of watching the sport.
I would never want goofy ultras culture in England.....in Italy and the Mediterranean countries it works in central Europe it looks and sounds phoney the constant robotic chanting to a drum beat is nothing special
@@RS__7 sitting and doing nothing is more special?
@@QwerAsdf-op2qn German ultras do more synchronization than a boyband....Those city fans were laughing and taking the piss out of those Bayern Munich capo's
We had ultras and all the over the top stuff and the country banned everything and locked loads of people up. I would rather watch good football and listen to funny chants, than a bunch of grown men with sparklers chanting like a pound land Norse long boat.
@@electricirezumi 😂
bro imagine losing 3-0 in the ucl in the worst atmosphere stadium u been in 💀💀💀💀💀💀
Facts bruh even crystal Palace generates more decibels period
Have you ever even visited the stadium
Your insight into fan culture in England is appalling. Have you considered why atmospheres have gone to pot? All seated stadiums mostly.....pricing locals out? Cheesy club matchday "experiences" . Have you seen the cost of attending football compared to overseas clubs or other reasons since the 70's
Vlog has no concern for balance or honesty. He made his mind up on what he was going to say before even going into the match - of course he sat in the stand with OAP’s and turned the noise down and suit his narrative all for followers, views and likes. How can you have any credibility when you can’t even recognise English fans hate the idea of have choreographed singing, cheerleaders in stands and you get a five year ban for carrying pyros with sniffer dogs often outside the stadium. Most real English fans would rather stop going than have to listen to those awful drums and robotic chants week in week out. As for Plastic fans, go and look up MCFC attendances in tier 3 of English football 1999
Because people like you get tickets and the proper fans can’t get them don’t bother coming and let the real fans go👍
M8 their were empty seats, what are you oN?
@@drkjelle4795 were are the empty seats?
It was totally sold out. People moved from the bottom rows into the aisles as they were getting soaked all game. The rain came in sideways it was damn windy. Easy for the armchair footy fans and little boys to throw shade when they never go to games.
@@drkjelle4795 where are empty seats??? do tell me??
Can't buy tickets within hour ( and I am fc member able to buy them before general public sale)
His mate said 'it was amazing' 👌🏼 I can see both sides.
Talking about the level of football 😃😍
From my pov the reason why people outside europe think that the Premier League has the best athmosphere is because they do some good Marketing there and its the only League they got served. Especially in Asia and the US. They eat what they get.
Fantastic vídeo. Great job
Manchester City fans are the same as Torino fans in Italy. in fact the two teams have more support from native people of Manchester and Torino. Meanwhile, Manchester United and Juventus are clubs with more fans from outside the city
You better be at de kuip Thursday !!! See you there sir. Proper atmospher
Feyenoord don't use phoney ultras culture
@@RS__7 yes mate I know we aren’t ultras
@@daveyl6357 Does being led by a half naked male cheerleader on a microphone get you hard ? That's considered goofy behavior here
Your mate looked bored out of his skull 😂
Great video 💯✌🏻
you did a good job of showing the atmposphere but dont bitch about the lack of singing and cut away as the fans are singing
West ham fan here and Its so true, English fans are not great at home but away we usually are quite decent
Thanks for your reply! Subscribers decide if we will visit west ham away😍🫠
Couldn't hear anything from you when you were in Frankfurt. Neither from Spurs, Chelsea or Arsenal...
@@yaneyd93 Frankfurt is different class so no wonder mate, Frankfurt one of the best in Europe but if you go to a lot of games you don’t hear the away fans depends where you sit
@@cabraonropes5622 True, Sporting, Marseille and Napoli weren't loud either. Only European teams I remember making a lot of noise in our stadium were Fenerbahce and to some extent Bröndby. Traditional Bundesliga teams like Stuttgart, Schalke etc are always loud though. Hansa Rostock fans were on another level and most people outside of Germany wouldn't even know that club.
There are a lot more tourists at games like this. To get the full “experience of English fans” probably best if you’re around the away fans in a big premier league game but saying that those tickets will be like golddust
Nice job on the edit 😌😌
I shared your vision about the definition of « atmosphere » ( as a standard de Liège fan). Very good video by the way !! Are you coming for the derby against Charleroi Friday ?
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Talking of Charleroi remember when the Germans got ran all over that city in Euro 2000 .....and fragile Europeans used to call us the English animals 🤣😂🤣🤣🤣🤫
@@RS__7 i have already seen like 4 of your comments here. I think someone got butthurt from simply hearing the truth 😂
Just accept it, yes you have the best league in Europe in terms of the football played, but your atmosphere and fan culture is pathetic. It is what it is
@@sfm9271 It's pathetic because Europeans couldn't handle us...after Euro 2000 our authorities destroyed what was left of our fan culture. But British fans pre 1990's were the best ....it's what Italians copied. At international level English fans are still better than Holland and Germany
@@sfm9271 The original support culture will never be pathetic.... England are the originals and always will be
Better athmosphere than in Munich
oh yeah, arab sluts pay for this?
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Ik hou van jou video's die zijn super top🔥! (Ik kan Nederlands😊.)
Let's be real. The most entertaining thing about the Bundesliga are the fans lol They have to entertain themselves your league is so dead. Same with the Italian league. People actually go to watch top level Football in the Premiere League, not to scream their heads off because they're watching a bunch of farmers kick a ball around.
The title and nature of this video is embarrassing. This was one of the Etihad Stadium’s finest nights.
Ahahaha ! No yous are embarrassing 😢 your fans are shit ! Emptyhad
Watch Pride in Battle MCFC Blog by Dan - more representative of the atmosphere- this guy had already decided on his narrative for his vlog and wasn’t going to change it - the video name “Plastic fans”
is a joke- stay away next time and let real fans get their hands on the tickets instead
Great content!!
Dammn u post fast😮
Being English I don’t think singing the same song at the same volume whether your teams 4-0 up or losing 4-0 counts as passion. Ultras in the U.K. looks like a performance to us not passion. It’s just a cultural difference
couldnt have said it better
Essentially you've come to England with a mega attitude and mega prejudice and gotta say it's boring. It makes the video boring and predictable. Much prefer the foreign fan vloggers who cross the channel with an open mind and fresh attitude. German football is great btw.
The fact that you all automatically assume he's German just shows that you can't take criticism and just assume he must be biased. The man is Dutch!
As an English football fan, the atmosphere comment being embarrassing is wrong on the general level. The article was right, we are the most passionate - teams get 19k on in League 2, with some of the other teams getting around 9k, with teams in the 5th division getting 15k and 10k too on, things you would never see in Europe or the World. In terms of atmosphere, anything under the Premier League tends to be great, with some atmospheres being a lot better than others though, that has to be said. I brought a Polish friend along to a game who said that our (Preston North End) atmosphere was better than at Pogon Szczecins, who is his team and are some of the best ultras in Poland too...and trust me, us PNE fans are certainly not the best fans in England. It's a different culture, sure, the atmosphere goes along with the game and what's going on, but when it's loud, it's loud alright. Proper English fans hate the Premier League, because that isn't proper English football and fans, it's foreign fans or tourist fans, but when you get the proper local fans at the games, which tends to be away games, the fans of Premier League teams are just as good as European ones again. Ive been to many European games and it must be said, the majority of Championship games I've been to have been louder than Mainz V Hannover, that was certainly nothing special, and neither was Valencia or even Benfica. There's a reason why no other national teams fans come close to English fans, both for atmosphere and attendance, because the proper English football fan is passionate and singing all game, and linking back to before, can be highlighted in the times the big teams have come to PNE, you'd expect them to be like at the Etihad, etc, but it isn't the tourist fans attending, it's the proper fans at away games and City, Utd, Spurs are all extremely loud, with this being highlighted when Spurs played Dortmund in Germany and for a good portion of the game, the Spurs fans were the loudest or if not, at least singing and making themselves heard pretty loudly for 90 minutes. I hope this has helped with your understanding of English football, but you have to go to an English derby game such as the Steel Derby or the M55 derby, etc, the proper ones where its all about local community and passion. One last thing, with regard to the chant of what the fucking hell is that, that's just English football banter, fans sing that to us as we have flag displays when the players walk out, Brighton sing that to Palace about their banner as they're rivals, we all think that the displays in Europe and pyros are great, and there's always plenty of displays in England too, but just because we don't call ourselves Ultras as fans, it means it doesn't get recognition.
There are usually a lot more tourists at games in England than in other countries, which is part of the reason why it may seem dull in comparison.
Pretty much agree with everything you say here, from an English person. England football culture has fallen massively behind the rest of Europe. Still think it can be decent on its day, but needs a change for sure. Everyone seems to have a love in with German atmosphere which i think is slightly overrated (all teams have the same boring songs and never get stadium chants going). Italy number one for me!
Continental atmospheres get boring after a few games, it's always the same chants at the same time each game, feels almost scripted imo...
This guy really cut up clips to make us look bad😂 I was at the match and it was absolutely bouncing. Drowning out the Munich fans. Don’t always believe what you see on the internet
Fair enough but still, the etihad should have a better level of atmosphere for the football you get to enjoy
Youre only singing when youre scoring
Well the stadium microphones didnt catch you drowning out munich until 3-0 up and then there was about 5 people doing the poznan
@@samuelpinder1215 Never judge by tv.
It depends where you place mics and their set up
@@samuelpinder1215 i didnt do the poznan because theres a second leg mate
Wow that's fast 🔥
WORST FANS IN THE CHAMPIONS LEAGUE WON IT AND THE TREBLE WITH IT HAHAH COPE MY FRIEND!
Having Better fans won't give Bayern a goal
That's true
They are not better fans just a different fotball culture personaly i dont like german fotball culture They dont chant at each other only chatting alllez allez
@@mathiasdahl992 What are you on about, never seen a German derby I suppose 😂
@@mathiasdahl992 Yours is trash
Thats right oil money does.
There’s a reason why you’ve got less than 50k subscribers
The thing about the etihad is sound doesnt echo for some reason. You can have the loudest away fans and quietest city fans, the sound just dissipates. Only time the etihad was the loudest stadium in the world was the Agueroooo goal.
i don't know much about construction but is it that much different compared to the other stadium?
@@haihao2942 I dont know much about construction either. But I'd say the box stadiums are louder. Was at tottenhams new place a while back, it was also kinda quite. Admittedly, I havent been to the real loud drum stadiums like Camp Nou or the Bernabeu or even Allianz so I can compare outside england. But those are notoriously loud fanbases anyway. City were never notoriously loud even at Maine Road.
Bro deze video's zijn zo goed!!!
english atmosphere is not chorographed like mainland europe. we dont need cheer leaders with drums or mega phones waving their arms conducting the crowd. we dont need big cartoon looking tifos to try and intimidate the opponents. we dont need to be outside the ground hours before because its our culture to drink and meet in pubs in local housing estates before a match. we pay more than other leagues to watch football which is a shame. but our atomosphere is authentic and spontaneous. im not saying european fans are bad, but its just not the same. planned chorographed atmosphere, parades to the stadium is a bit cringey for me. ive been there. the atmosphere isnt better at all, a lot of the fans dont even watch the game or care. they make it all about themselves.
mainland europes obsession with english fans and why they dont do dances and drumming in the stadium is embarrasing. sorry but its how i feel and think
Its a totally dead atmosphere, hoe can you say this stuff
@@breudje. dont cry mate, hes telling the absolute truth, us english fans find that sort of ‘support’ embarrassing
@@stewzs9269 wow you find having a good atmospehere embarassing?
@@breudje. i dont think you understand, using a drum and a megaphone is not good atmosphere
@@stewzs9269 news flits, there are many european clubs without ultras and they still have a much better atmosphere than england
You should feel the athmosphere indonesian rivalry between PERSIB Bandung vs PERSIJA Jakarta In Indonesia. Where the away teams come to stadium with Armored Vehicle 😂
I just think that fans in Germany and Holland make it all seem very focused, unnecessary Pyro and soulless chants on repeat all game.
Schalke use no pyros Rotterdam has no Ultra szene, still loud stadium. Karlsruhe vs Liverpool friendy game KSC fans had no ultras this day, still stadium was loud. Its a myth you only chave loud stadium with ultras you dont.
The most plastic fans I have seen is Bayern. I was at the game on Wednesday. They employ flag wavers who wave their flags all game. Are they even watching the game?
😂
It's different in England,we have no Ultra culture,the lower leagues are better though,no tourists or half and half scarves.Most of the PL grounds are like libraries but the action on the pitch makes up for it whereas in Europe the atmospheres are mostly better than the games.The Munich support wasn't that great last night either,just the bottom tier mainly.
Fair comment👏🏻
Singing the same song at the same volume whether your 5-0 up or down doesn’t really suit English people to be honest
@@tonicdb exactly 😂 we’re 5 nil up, the only reason to sing at this point is to impress these foreign middle class boys😂
Bundesliga has the best of both worlds and don't give me this Bayernliga crap. It isn't only about the title race in football. I just wish Bayern would join that Super League crap, then Bundesliga would be perfect.
Rotterdam also has no ultra culture or fan base still loud and pasionate. You dont need ultras to have a loud stadium thats a myth.
One can buy 11 players, but twelve isn't for sale
Underrated comment
Great video, but horrible representation of atmosphere. The Bayern fans bouncing is called the Poznan and was INVENTED by CITY FANS. You only showed bayerns chants when City had a better atmosphere from the entire time they went 1-0 up, and every game in every league has fans leaving a minute or two early, they have to get to work and the children have to go to school
Manchester city have no fans, we know that. emptihad.
Even after winning the champions League the inter fans made more noise.
I was there and the atmosphere was electric .. best game ever !!!
In comparison to St James ,Leeds and Anfield, City are a notch down tbh
@@mymemories925It is loud in the big games icl
Bundesliga heeft zoveel meer sfeer. Niet te vergelijken
Great video 👍
You have to come and visit San Siro for the derby AC Milan Vs Inter for the semifinal of Champions, you will see what an atmosphere 🤪
Are you going to either PSV-Ajax or the dutch cup final?
Put Ajax in England and they're no bigger than Villa, Everton, West Ham, Leeds, Newcastle, Tottenham....why would anyone want to go to the Ajax training league. One club city lol In a small league with no competition....Notts County in the English 5th division would be getting higher attendances than everyone other than the top 6 in Holland 😂😂😂😂
@@marcK599 okay and why do you use those statements to hate on Ajax or Eredivisie? I don't get it. I salute to every fan going to smaller clubs. Million times better than being a plastic fan of a club just because they had success the last few years.
@@marcK599 why is Feyenoord first then you absolute clown. City has been finishing top 2 for almost a decade consecutively as well! You're just mad because foreign money and tourism has taken over your league. English PL match going experience is basically as sanitized as an American sports experience nowadays. You might have the most money and best teams but absolutely no soul left in the league at all. Your country has ruined football
@@marcK599 0 ball knowledge please go watch cricket mate
@@marcK599 psv (the number 3 of the eredivisie) absolutely dominated arsenal (number 1 pl)…
It is sad that you’re using hater tactics to get CZcams views. Simply painting a bad side of any football club is not class. Grow up kid. Rethinking your tactics because this could’ve been a great video with a different approach.
You are the PRO CZcamsr!
Made fair points about the atmosphere but the reason fans leave early is traffic and transport reasons. But great video mate
Appreciate you ❤️
Fuck traffic, your clubs more important
@@samuelpinder1215 imagine you are going to every game and wants to go home and Sleep because its work The next day then if you leave 1-2 minute early you come home 30 min faster
@@mathiasdahl992 I dont care about work. Football is more important especially a ucl quarter final
@@samuelpinder1215 i agreed i am never leaving before The game is over but for some people its easier that way
I've been to Munich twice in the past to watch City, and i'm still waiting to hear the Bayern fans sing!
Whu fan here and he’s not wrong, England got a shit atmosphere. Leeds and Newcastle are good but that’s about it, we don’t have a ultra culture and most the stadiums are packed with tourists but the main reason is we just have such a huge mix of fans age etc where you don’t see that in Europe where they have a ultra section etc such as Frankfurt which no English team could recreate
Bayern have literally the worst atmosphere in Germany apart from RB Leipzig, Hoffenheim and Wolfsburg (all plastic clubs) and yet it's still better than in any Premier League stadium.
@@Jimbob960 yh but being a library ain’t any better
@JimBob English middle class people can't have a proper Frankfurt atmosphere, tifos, pyroshows, choerographies and all the wild shit, so they get outsung at their own grounds and then cry "whatever fans doing an effort is cringe and choreos are robotic anyway" as if any of them puts down even half as much heart as any of the Frankfurt ultra.
@JimBob I take it you enjoyed their Camp Nou takeover. Dont get such away support in England.
England atmosphere is still 100x better than Germany.
The German ultra’s are weird. Singing practices songs for 90 minutes, zero reaction to what’s on the pitch. Just feels so rehearsed, so detached from the actual game.
I prefer go with my kids to that atmosphere, not full of hooligans throwing things and screaming loud as animals. They are building a good future.
I agree with you. As a Belgian i've been to couple premier league games and europe games with my club Gent. It's just disapointing. Stadiums of 50 000 people and you can hear a needle dropping.
thats not true
Even though city support was bad, bayern also disappointed me
What is away without a megaphon and a drum because this wasnt allowed. And we lost 3-0
HOW UNDERRATED are you... The fact that this Guys also speaks facts and doesn't hold back. Man I Love it.
Means the world, really.❤
@JimBob the only embarrassing thing is city fans not supporting their world class team
@@QwerAsdf-op2qn crawl back under your third world sewerage fly infested slump
@GroundhopperFC your profile pic sums you up really, what a fekking camp
@JimBob You dont have a clue
Safe standing and other measures killed the experience in England, in the 90s the bridge turned into an all seater clean stadium for families and tourists this happened at every club in England, you aren’t allowed to stand or you get kicked out
Englische Stimmung ist einfach so peinlich. Jedes Zweitligaspiel hat in Deutschland mehr Stimmung.
German clubs have the best fanbases, especially Dortmund, their fans are ride or die untill the end
Dortmund is not even Top 5 in Germany anymore. Schalke Frankfurt Rostock Magdeburg Kaiserlautern Dresden are way better.
Denk dat het moeilijk is een vergelijk te maken met andere landen. Fans hebben wel veel passie maar op een andere manier.
In Engeland vind sowieso pre match alles plaats in de tunnels achter de tribune waardoor je niet echt een pre match sfeer hebt en de sfeer zich op kan bouwen.
Leegte en kalmte buiten vandaag zat hem uiteraard ook een groot deel in het weer en het afblazen van alle activiteiten op de City Square om het enigzins te nuanceren. Maar toffe video weer!
Deluded. Those in England don’t know pyro…. Literally shows footage of blue pyro. They have no atmosphere… spends the entire time recording Bayern fans. Well done. And I think you’re mate said it was awesome at the end.
No one in England thinks we have the best atmosphere since the 90’s and Italy took over. Since then we’ve got worse and the continent has got better. English atmosphere is unique tho, much more reactionary compared to our German/Dutch counterparts who bang their shit drums for 90 mins no matter what - I’m glad we’ve not imported that. I think this guy just has the very stereotypical Dutch inferiority complex - they simply wish they were either English or German, but sadly they’re Dutch