What to Look for When Buying a Porsche CAYMAN! - Everything you need to Know about Porsche Caymans!
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- čas přidán 15. 06. 2024
- In this video cousin Rob walks us through what to look for when buying a Porsche Cayman.
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Three words that were not mentioned in this 30 minute buyers guide, pre purchase inspection. A pre purchase inspection from a certified Porsche mechanic/dealer will provide all of the details, good or bad, that you need to know about the car you're about to spend your hard earned money on. Before I bought my 981 Cayman S, I took it on a test drive over to the local Porsche dealer for a pre purchase inspection. It helped make my decision to buy the car.
Rob realized that after we wrapped - we are actually going to make a video that shows you what a good PPI entails
987.1 - I think bigger issue is potential bore scoring. That seems to be a bigger risk than IMS.
Yes, but apparently the base 2.7l doesn't suffer from that problem. The smaller engine gets a 5spd with different gear ratios and it's a lot of fun since you get to use 2nd and 3rd, 4th occasionally. The 987's had water based glue on the headliners and in hot climates were prone to sagging. I love my little 987.1 base, it's great!
@@TexasRiverRat31254agree. From what I hear the .1’s are mostly free of the issue. Sweet car!
I just drove my first 981 Boxster S manual last week. That flat 6 😍
@TexasRiverRat31254
That's correct. It's because the material used on the piston skirts of the 2.7 is different than the material used for the 3.4 piston skirts. The material eventually wears off the piston, and bore scoring begins.
I own a high mileage (75000 miles) 981 GTS with the manual and sports suspension. I drive it a lot but I don’t abuse nor track it. It’s been a wonderful car with hardly any issues. Build-quality is fantastic. I am a smaller guy and I agree the cabin is on the cozy side.
Take it to the track for an HPDE with your local PCA. You won't regret it!
I bought my 981 Cayman S with 60k miles and 2.5 years later it now has 95k miles as it's my daily driver. No mechanical issues whatsoever. I've replaced the headliner that was falling down. Unfortunately both interior door panels are coming up at the top where the glue is wearing out. I'm just driving it as is for now.
Nice video, thank you
Nice video. I owned a 2009 Cayman and a 2014 Cayman S. Both were excellent, problem free cars. Definitely a good buy today, especially the ones with the 4 cylinder turbo engine.
So in the 987.1 was the M97 motor, different IMS more resilient but as someone else mentioned cylinder slap can be an issue on some cars.
Great vid! Curious - are those wheels on your GTS 4.0 Silver or Satin Platinum?
Great video hitting on the greatest value in the Porsche lineup. Truth at 11:30!! We have solutions for that issue on all of the Cayman/718 vehicles!
Another issue related to the water based glue with the 981 is the headliner falling as well. Replaced the headliner and the door panels under warranty luckily.
Love my 2007 Cayman S (987.1) in Guards Red, the boxster engine howl inside the cabin above 4000 rpms is glorious! I don't really worry about IMS, as for bore scoring, look for the PCA 4-part youtube video series on it, has really great tips on how to prevent it (how to warm up the car, oil selection, fuel selection, etc).
Same situation with my former used 981S (manual all drivers options). Sold it at a slight gain and got into a new CGTS (also a manual). I’d say that the 981S feels and sounds a lot less refined than the 718 CGTS and that’s a good thing.
Thanks for an informative video! When I got out of the army in 1974, I lusted for a 914-2.0 that was supposedly a VW engine massaged by Porsche
I think they only made 3000 of the 914-6
Like the Cayman they deliberately kept the engine under powered so it wouldn't blow off the 911
I thought on and off of getting a Cayman and when you hear of IMS bearings and scored cylinder walls and $25,000 engine replacement cost kind of makes you gun shy.
So I guess my search would be limited to a 987.2
What I'd like to know is what that engine is capable of long-term? I have three old Mercedes - one of which has 230,000 miles and uses virtually no oil.
My 2000 E430 has 160,000 miles with no problems. Of course maintenance is the key and I've always used synthetic oil and changed it on time.
And when I look on the net about "high mileage" Caymans they speak of numbers like 120,000.
So you're getting a 10-year-old car or more which will probably have 80,000 to 100,000 miles
Anyway thank you for the nice video - it was informative
Great video ! Can experienced Porsche lovers also state the common errors/ cost to main the cayman ? For the new comers
That yellow 981 has a story of its own according to jack. Awesome cars.
It’s a fun story, for sure!
In the US, 987.2 era starts in 2009 and runs to 2012. .2s have the new Direct Injection engine, and the PDK transmission(and not the old Tiptronic) was an option.
987.1 2.7 never had the ims and bore score issues, only the 3.2s and 987.2, resesion came so not many were sold.
There is no difference in cabin room between 911 and 981/982. The front half of the unit body is the same. I’m 6’ 220 lbs and I find there is plenty of room for me and I’ve gone on 6-7 hour drives. It’s very comfortable albeit the suspension is a bit firm
Had a 2007 987 and loved it. Probably better than the 911 but not as iconic.
2009 was first year of 9A1 engine in the 987.2, later put in the 981 Boxster/Cayman.
9A1 has no IMS and has direct injection.
Fun fact, most of the parts from the 911 are shared with the 986/987/981/982.
9A1 is not direct injection. Or rather, not all 9A1 are direct injection. The 2.9 in the base 987.2 is port injection. The rest are DI.
Should have mentioned the original 718 from the late 50s to early 60s where Porsche brought the nameplate back. This was probably the first mid-engine Porsche before the 914/916.
914 also sold in the Uk at least as a Porsche
987.1 received the 3rd Gen IMS. It’s a large diameter and located inside the shaft. Do not Touch. The failure rate is probably the same as if you were to replace non OEM IMS in a 986. Bore scoring is prevalient in all 987.1 and .2 S. 2.7l is known to not have bore scoring. 981 PDK failure likely due to lack of maintenance. PDK needs fluid change every 2 years.
Pdk is solid, change the oil every 6 years. Same pdk that has been in every porsche over the last 12 years or so.
Bore scoring is not prevalent in the .2 S. This is a myth currently gaining traction, but a myth all the same. A small proportion of 9A1 engines have suffered from seizing related to different expansion rates as a consequence of the engine being pushed too hard from cold. It's not the same thing as scoring in the M96/7 engine. Also, PDK does not need fluid changes every two years. There are thousands upon thousands of PDK cars that have never had their fluid changed and work fine.
@@Jay-xr3sb PDK fluid (not oil) should be changed every 2 years (not 6).
@@flat6croc I known several 987.2 that has bore score. Dealer technician confirms, even all the way up to early 981 bore scoring. The reason why you think it’s a myth is 987.2 are rarer than 987.1 and are garage queens for that same reason. Eventually, over time and milage will build up and bore scoring happens.
@@josephlim8941 Nope, it's a myth. Go back to those technicians and ask if the cylinder damage is both sides or just the thrust side. It'll be both sides, which is seizing, rather than just the thrust side, which is scoring. Moreover, it's now 16 years since the first 9A1 cars came out (the first 997.2 were mid 2008) and 13 years since the first 991.1 cars came out, all with pretty much the same 9A1 engine as the 987.2 engine. The 991.1 and 981 sold in big numbers, but the combined examples of 9x7.2 and 9x1.1 9A1 cars with seizing adds up to very, very few cars. With the M97 3.4+ cars, they were failing with scoring at scale within a few years of launch and a decade after launch the failures were everywhere - to be really really clear, at the same point in the 9x7.1's life as we are with the 9x1.1 cars, failure with scoring was already at epidemic levels. So, yes it's true that 9x7.2 cars are relatively rare, but people forget just who long the 9x1.1 cars have been out. So, yes, the whole scoring thing on the 9A1 is a myth based on misunderstanding and the conflation of a completely different seizing issue into "scoring". Long story short, a very small number of 9A1 engines across 9x7.2 and 9x1.1 cars have suffered from differential expansion-related seizing and because of the scoring epidemic in M97 engines, people including some in the trade have jumped to entirely the wrong conclusions and misinformation is being spread at scale, including your post.
I love the 987’s in yellow!! And the 987.2’s are so pricy here in CA. I saw one posted the other day for $40kUSD, mint condition. Not sure if that price is normal but can’t seem to find many .2’s for sale. I’d love a 987 but at those prices I’d probably go for a 981
Why is that GTS dirty?
If you're going to do a video like this, surely you need to be well informed? All 987.1 Caymans have the final big IMS bearing which hardly ever fails. Meanwhile, scoring on the 987.1 3.4 is a much bigger risk than IMSB failure ever was on any M96 engine.
Contact Pedro’s garage for the door card repair!
Swear if someone buys the cayman I’m saving up for ima tweak out bruh
Get it while it’s hot!!
-AA
Nobody wants the electric junk in the Cayman or the Boxster. So sit back, watch their sales plummet, and watch them revert back to a gas motor. Btw the 2025 cayman confirmed gas, but now that’s supposed to be the LAST year.
Porche is Losing their bet on Electric Taycan. The secondary market is in the dumpster. If they change other models to EV.......Good Luck!