Why Does the Apostles' Creed Say that Jesus Descended into Hell?
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Hank Hanegraaff, the host of the 𝘉𝘪𝘣𝘭𝘦 𝘈𝘯𝘴𝘸𝘦𝘳 𝘔𝘢𝘯 broadcast and the 𝘏𝘢𝘯𝘬 𝘜𝘯𝘱𝘭𝘶𝘨𝘨𝘦𝘥 podcast, explains that before he answers the question, he has a confession to make. For most of his public ministry, he wrongly communicated that the clause, "he descended into hell" which was a misinterpretation of 1 Peter 3: 19-20. Hank contended that just as the Spirit of Jesus preached through Noah to the people of his day-who were then in the flesh, but at the writing of Peter’s epistles were disembodied spirits incarcerated in the prison house of hades-so, too, in the days preceding the fall of Jerusalem, the Spirit of Jesus preached through Peter to pagans drowning in dissipation. Moreover, Hank asserted that because this phrase did not surface until the fourth century, it could not be credibly argued that it was the profession of the early church fathers, much less the apostles. Regrettably, he was wrong!
Furthermore, Hank now acknowledges that Christ’s descent into hell was clearly the consensus patrum (consensus of the Fathers). Fathers who faithfully transmitted the teachings of the apostles. Fathers without whom we would not so much as have our treasured Bibles. Fathers like Irenaeus who in his youth listened to and learned from the teachings of Polycarp. Polycarp who in turn sat at the feet of the beloved apostle John. Ignatius, friend of Polycarp and a disciple of Peter and John who upon approaching his own martyrdom surrendered his body as “the wheat of Christ, ground by the teeth of beasts to become pure bread.” And this but scratches the surface. To this list could be added Justin Martyr, Cyril of Jerusalem, Gregory Nazianzus, and a host of others. In the words of the polymath John Damascene, “Through his descent into hell, Christ opened the way of paradise for all and calls all to salvation. For some Christ’s preaching led to salvation while for others it only exposed their unbelief.” And said the venerable John Chrysostom, “this call is not coercive or forcible. Everyone is called, but not all follow the call.” For in the mercy of God there are no obstacles other than free will.
Finally, the “harrowing of hell” has been historically authenticated through the liturgies, hymnography, and iconography of the church. The Vesperal Liturgy of Holy Saturday says in part, “Today Hades cries out groaning: I should not have accepted the Man born of Mary. He came and destroyed my power. He shattered the gates of brass.” Likewise, the church proclaimed Christ’s victory over hades in robust song. “Christ is risen from the dead, trampling down death by death, and upon those in the tombs bestowing life!” And the traditional icon of Holy Saturday portrays Christ, radiant in hues of blue and white, standing on the devastated gates of Hades. With one arm he unfetters Adam; with the other He liberates the Old Testament righteous. Not until the sixteenth century did innovative interpretations of the harrowing of hell begin spreading through the church...
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The teacher is a life long student. Hank is one of those teachers. Thanks for this!
Joyce Myers et al believe the false gospel that Jesus became sin and went into hell to fight and finish the plan of redemption, whereas Christians believe it was finished on the cross. according to what I have just heard Hank say, “Through his descent into hell, Christ opened the way of paradise for all and calls all to salvation..." this is a very different message to the WOF false gospel. Now I am left with more questions than answers
Define "Christians." Also, are you saying that Christ's resurrection wasn't a part of the plan of redemption?
@@ericlammerman2777 A Christian is a follower of Christ and his teachings. yes of course the resurrection and ascension are a part of the plan, I was however referring to 1st Peter 2:24 in contrast to WOF teachers saying he bore our sins in hell
@@Pete_KPJ Had to look up WOF teachers. Not familiar with their teachings, beyond the general "prosperity gospel" thing (which is rubbish); but I reckon they have some truth mixed in with their false doctrines. At any rate...
Are you questioning the idea that Christ descended into Hell because it is something WOF teachers assert, is it something in the metaphysics of the idea or...?
@Pete_KPJ Hank shares more on the Christian teaching of Jesus' descent into Hades in this video ! czcams.com/video/Kyf4U2_v-Js/video.html
Thank you for your truth!!! I believe God's love is always wanting to be in a sacred relationship if we only will truly be in a loving relationship with Him!!!
Thanks!
If you have begun to value the teaching of the church fathers, then you might examine your beliefs in mandatory tithing "or else" in the light of this.
@maleccnurse1 - Where can we find the purported "mandatory tithing 'or else'" teachings from the church fathers? Who of them ever taught that?
I don't listen to any man on this Earth who claims to preach the word of God that calls themselves Father.
So, what do you call your biological Father?
"Father" is a term for those who teach the biblical teachings, handed down in Apostolic succession. Led by the Holy Spirit with humility.
In the first Orthodox Christian Church Divine Liturgy I attended the Church Father said "I'm just a man, don't believe in me, but believe in Jesus Christ Son of God.".
We call each other"Brothers and Sisters in Christ ".
Does that help explain the use of "Father" or "Father figure"?
I thought something was up since i havent heard a word about Joyce Meyer's lately.
"He descended into hell", "He descended to the dead", same, same.
Wow this is so confusing Hank. So what about the thief on the cross.
He calls Jesus a liar. Please see my comment under this video.
St. Dismas. He's with Christ.
T-H-I-E-F. 😊 Jesus descended to Hades, & Paradise (Abraham's bosom) is a region of Hades. There, He preached to the angels that sinned in Noe's time when the sons of God took wives from the daughters of mankind.
@@medicalmisinformationwhere does it say that in the Bible?
@@medicalmisinformation who is N-O-E-S? 😂
Ephesians 4:9-10 says it pretty plainly.
To preach to those that had went there before Jesus came to save humanity of their sins, & to get the keys from the pit of hell.
So it wasn't finished on the cross?
So let me get this right. This is something Joyce Meyers preaches that Jesus went to hell for 3 days.
Now this is true?
Even if HH said that was true I would reject it outright. but its not what he is saying at all, I had to listen twice to understand what he is saying and now I'm just going to turn it off and continue on with my day as it all gets rather tiresome , God bless
Even a broken clock is right twice a day;-)
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Should those going to hell expect to see Adam there aswell?
@deanfloyd8931 What brings you to the conclusion that Adam will be cast into hell?
Christ had to descend into hell so that God could legally raise Him from the dead. It is how he, and we conquer death.
Christ was a perfect soul, he had no sin. So when God the Father looked down and saw Jesus in hell, he legally raised the perfect soul from the dead. Now, all of us who put our trust and faith in Christ, are covered by his blood. We have a "perfect soul" through propitiation. That is how we defeat death.
So Joyce Meyer's was correct??
@vann342011 No. Hank still considers the teaching of Joyce Meyer that Jesus had to finish the work of atonement in Hell to be a gross perversion of the truth.
Thanks Hank. The ONE Holy Church is apostolic and the teachings of those selected by Christ. The bible is a part of the fulfilment of those teachings but not all, and is certainly NOT open for one’s self interpretation as many have done - hence the thousands of deviated so called churches today. The one true CHURCH who affirmed and put the bible together according to what was already taught by the apostles and passed down to the early fathers, and the BIBLE is the only Truth in Christ.
Any church who calls somebody other than God father is not a true church.
@@bobbyhempel1513 That's what people who aren't in The Church sometimes say.
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Hank, you have abandoned Scripture for tradition. You no longer deserve to wear the title of "The Bible Answer Man". I loved your prior ministry, and even enjoyed the picture that I have of me sitting at your desk at the old studio. That picture no longer brings a smile to my face, but sadness at a defender of the Faith, who has left it to promote incense, robes, and icons. You have reminded me to never place your faith in men, but in God and the Bible alone. A reminder that you would be well to also remember.
But dear friend the perspectives on Jesus’ descent into Hades are developed from various Christian traditions drawn from the biblical text. You have the Reformed, Lutheran, Roman Catholic, and Eastern Orthodox understandings of Jesus’ descent.
Many evangelicals buy into a novel though heretical tradition that Jesus had to suffer in hell to complete the atonement, become “born again” and then battled Satan in the underworld, which gain popularity through Word of Faith teachers like Kenneth Copeland, Joel Olsteen, and Joyce Meyer. See www.equip.org/articles/the-atonement-of-christ-and-the-faith-message/ www.equip.org/articles/whats-wrong-with-the-word-faith-movement-part-two-/ www.equip.org/articles/christianity-still-in-crisis-/ and www.equip.org/articles/joyce-meyer-in-the-twenty-first-century/
Yes, narratives about Jesus descent into Hades draw upon various traditions, but the question is which upholds what is being communicated by God through the Scriptures. Obviously, the Copeland view is ridiculously wrong. Yet the main point is to rejoice of Christ victory over death. Pease see “He Descended to Hell” by Melanie Nassif: An Investigation of the Harrowing of Hell in the Apostles’ Creed,” from v. 44 n. 4 of the Christian Research Journal. Copies of this issue are available for purchase through equip.org. www.equip.org/christian-research-journal/he-descended-to-hell-an-investigation-of-the-harrowing-of-hell-in-the-apostles-creed-bitoc/
What Hank shares on Jesus’ descent into Hades offers is nothing contrary to the Scriptures per se.
Jesus descended to Hades, & Paradise (Abraham's bosom) is a region of Hades. A place of torment or Tartarus is another. There, He preached His triumph to the angels that sinned in Noe's time when the sons of God took wives from the daughters of mankind. It was a victory sermon with His foot on the necks of those angels, not a repentance message. That people in Paradise can speak with people in Tartarus is proven by His account of the leper Lazarus and the rich man.
Where does it say that in the Bible?
@@bobbyhempel1513 Peter's epistles & the Pentateuch.
Is the Apostle Creed a Catholic thing?
Catholic and Calvinist. No difference.
Apparently since they keep referring to church fathers even though Jesus said to call no man on this Earth father because there is only one father and that is God in heaven.
@vann342011 No. The Apostle’s Creed was never just a Roman Catholic thing.
@@MissMaskless Not even in close and totally inaccurate.
@@PhotographyByDerek Oh yeah?
It is not the apostle creed that said this but scriptures themselves, most people do not know what happened at Jesus death an just before Jesus death. Here is what happened, Jesus had to hang on the cross until all sins or the world were pour into it, the hrs of darkness, once that was done and before His body died Jesus by His will and power separated His Spirit from His body and rose up above His body. When His body died it put to death the entire sin of the world. When Jesus body was taken down and washed and placed in the tomb and the tomb was sealed He immediately went into the tomb and re-entered His body by His Spirit and by his Spirit He made His body alive again, being flesh and bone but not kept alive the heart pumping blood because we know that the Spirit give life and the flesh profits nothing. Then after He entered His body He descended into hell, the bowels of the earth where He spoke to the old testament saints who were being held in captivity, but in a different place than the place of torment. Because when He rose from the dead, He led captivity captive, meaning these saints rose up to heaven with Him when He arose to the Father. So Jesus never spent 3 days in a tomb, He spent very little time in that tomb. And this very same Spirit of Christ that gave His body eternal life is the same Spirit that will give our bodies eternal life when we receive Christ today and die we rise up to be with Him in Spirit, but our bodies will be reunited with our Spirit and will live eternally by this Spirit of Jesus and we shall be as He is. This is why eternal life is in Jesus alone, even if the Father want someone saved He sends them to His Son for that salvation otherwise He would be making the cross void. And if we could enter into heaven by another way then Jesus , then Jesus would no longer be, "the way, the truth, and the life, no one come to the Father but by Me" Jesus paid our dept and the price for our souls and is the reason eternal life is in Him alone. God Bless !!!
Where does it say that in the Bible?
Thanks for sharing. Hank gives further details on Jesus descent into Hades in this video: czcams.com/video/Kyf4U2_v-Js/video.html 🙏
Why don't Calvinist believe this and why don't they believe in free will and that God loves the world like John 3:16
We do.
@andrettanylund830 - Good question.
I've been a protestant since I excepted Jesus as my saviour but in just discovering things about Calvinism I never new. My church is a good church and not Calvinists but I don't understand why Christians that aren't Calvinist say that they are still in the pale of Orthodoxy since they make God the Author of evil and they are the only chosen few. I know that they interpret the Bible differently but so do the Jehovah's witnesses and the Mormans. And to tell you the truth even though I know they are way off, i can't see much difference except Calvinist uphold the Trinity, and other basic truths but the other things they do are just as problematic ti me as the cults. It has devistated me to know that what they have made my loving God into. I know God is the judge and not the big Santa in the sky but He definitely isn't what Calvinist have made him. Sorry to harp on this but it has really caused me to think. I guess that's a good thing. Lol thanks for your ministry. I've listened to you for years and have contributed to your ministry. I admit I have problems with the Orthodox church but know that they believe much closer to what I believe than Calvinists.
Accepted
@@andrettanylund830That’s quite a statement I work for people that are Calvinist I want to say this they are really nice people
But sometimes tuning into their sermons makes me
cringe
Babies getting baptized is something I can’t see eye to eye But I do think they are true Christians just some wrong doctrines But again no church is perfect
So Jesus lied to the thief on the cross when he told him he would be with him in paradise?
Luke 23:43-44
43 And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom.
43 And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.
Further, David was not dead when he said the following. Compare to 1 Peter 3:19.
Psalm 142:7
➡️Bring my soul out of prison⬅️, that I may praise thy name: the righteous shall compass me about; for thou shalt deal bountifully with me.
The beloved "church fathers" certainly meant to convey the message that Jesus went to hell. They were liars. This is symbolic language, not literal!
@ericlammerman2777 You think that Jesus "literally" went to hell, or to "Hades"🤓, when there is zero scriptural evidence to support such. Just assertations and impositions. Yet, you have the nerve to tell me not to take the word "today" literally??? I guess he should have told the thief, "welllll, today doesn't actually mean today, lol." I smell a Calvinist🤣
Jesus was full of the Holy Ghost (Luke 4:1), to assert that anyone with the Holy Spirit can go to hell is utterly blasphemous and demonic.
The scriptures are clear that the redemptive work of Christ was finished from the foundation of the world regardless of the point in time that he was manifested. This why the gospel was preached unto Abraham
Hebrews 4:3
For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: ➡️although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.⬅️
1 Peter 1:20
Who verily was ➡️foreordained before the foundation of the world,⬅️ but was manifest in these last times for you,
Galatians 3:8
And the scripture, ➡️ foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham,⬅️ saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.
@ericlammerman2777 The word Hades does not appear in the King James Bible. It DOES appear in the NIV. Example:
Luke 16:30
➡️In Hades, where he was in torment⬅️, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side.
The above verse states that Hades is a place of torment.
In your reply, you stated that paradise is not heaven, but part of Sheol (the realm of death, Hades or Hell.) You honestly think that PARADISE is a place of torment? Sickening!
@@MissMaskless Not a Calvinist. And I didn't TELL you not to take the word "today" literally, I suggested it as one way your understanding of scriptures might be skewed. One way you could understand this, for example, is that when the thief (St. Dismas) confessed Christ as God, he secured his salvation.
You called the Church fathers, people who knew Christ and/or His disciples, people who died for the faith, liars. And then you add that their teaching is blasphemous. And you say that I have nerve.
The Church fathers, confessors, martyrs...these people spread the faith, kept it alive through millennia...but you know better than them, eh?
@ericlammerman2777 Your response is void of scriptural support. I'm noticing a trend here. Just like "Bible Answers" who had to rely on extrabiblical text to explain the position.
The REAL "Church Fathers " were the disciples and aspostles. You are conflating them with the counterfeit "church fathers" such as the ones responsible for concocting the "Apostles" Creed.
God could and did use many of these men to disseminate truth. However, many of them are rank heretics responsible for this type of garbage.
Stop veneratng them over the word.
@@ericlammerman2777Jesus Christ himself said not to call any man of this Earth father because our God in heaven is the only father so why would you listen to men that call themselves Father?
Man's free will can confound God? Oh come on.
@daelinproudmore5068 God does endow human creatures with freewill and human creatures still retain freewill despite the fall. See www.equip.org/articles/how-does-free-will-affect-faith/
Gotta SELECTIVE Hermeneutics, lol! I remember when this guy was on the radio preaching the same superficial theology. Bart Ehrman would have a field day with this guy! 😆
In Heaven they have no beer 🍻. That's why we drink it here. 😂
Funny. Just a few days ago, I stumbled across a clip of Hank asserting a complete lack of scriptural evidence for the Harrowing of Hades. I then wondered when the Bible Answer Man might get around to disavowing this assertion, which contradicts Orthodox theology (including the NT).
Quick payoff. Good job, Mr. Hanegraaff!
@ericlammerman2777 Hank's already explained his reassessment on the Jesus descent into Hades in this video: czcams.com/video/Kyf4U2_v-Js/video.html
What? What was this bull. It disgusts me to listen to a message that purports to answer a question posed and does anything but. Waste of time. If I ever need platitudes, I'll visit your channel again.
He did answer the question, though. The Apostle's Creed says that Christ descended into hell because...Christ descended into hell.
If you don't LIKE the answer, that's your problem.
@@ericlammerman2777 Of course you feel more intelligent for such an answer? Don't be so thick. It's definitely not my problem. That's all YOURS. I had well already accepted the creed. Christ came to fulfill ALL Scripture, such as Psalm 16:10-11 KJV.. He is truly propitiation for our iniquity and worthy of our praise, our very utmost for His highest. Have a blessed day...
"For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; Neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption. Thou wilt shew me the path of life: In thy presence is fulness of joy; At thy right hand there are pleasures for evermore."
@@ericlammerman2777show me where in the Bible it says that Jesus Christ descended into hell after crucifixion.
@@sexyeur Please forgive me. What is it that you don't like about Hank's answer, then? Do you feel he should have been more thorough, provided more scriptural support rather than leaning into the teachings of the Church fathers?
I don't understand why you expressed anger at Mr. Hanegraaff for not answering the question, when he did answer it succinctly and directly.
@@bobbyhempel1513 Here you go:
Matthew 12:40: "For just as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the sea monster, so for three days and three nights the Son of Man will be in the heart of the earth."
Acts 2:24: "But God raised him up, having freed him from death, because it was impossible for him to be held in its power."
Acts 2:31: "Foreseeing this, David spoke of the resurrection of the Messiah, saying, 'He was not abandoned to Hades, nor did his flesh experience corruption'."
Ephesians 4:9: "In saying, 'he ascended', what does it mean but that he had also descended into the lower regions, the earth?"
Colossians 1:18: "He is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, so that he might come to have first place in everything."
1 Peter 3:18-19: "For Christ also suffered for sins once for all, the righteous for the unrighteous, in order to bring you to God. He was put to death in the flesh, but made alive in the spirit, in which also he went and made a proclamation to the spirits in prison, ..."
1 Peter 4:6: "For this is the reason the gospel was proclaimed even to the dead, so that, though they had been judged in the flesh as everyone is judged, they might live in the spirit as God does."