How Gwen Stefani and Courtney Love's Beef Birthed "Hollaback Girl"
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- čas přidán 27. 07. 2022
- How a spat with Courtney Love turned into Gwen Stefani’s career defining hit. As well, as the one-sided tension after the song.
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Looking down a girl for being a cheerleader was Courtney's “not like other girls”︎︎︎︎︎︎ moment. The she (wrongfully) attributed Gwen's success to the men in her life explains why she slept with them, she needed a boost for her lacking career and only being recognizable through her own dead ex. Typical pick me at the end of the day and Gwen proved her wrong.
I didn’t mind her saying gwen was a cheerleader and she wasn’t. She could’ve meant it as shes a rebel rocker chick and Gwen is more polished/popular. But then she kept digging so clearly she was being hateful. Also He’s Kurt Cobain not Courtney’s dead ex 😐
@@casswashwash1070 who cares that you didn’t mind, the comment was aimed at Gwen, not you. And we know his name. You stand are so annoying…
As if Love would have been anything without Kurt though, Hole weren't successful until after poor Kurt was murdered, I mean passed;p
@@gretchengeorge5302 I think she was saying it in a way to respect Kurt. He isn't just someone's 'dead ex'. I also felt that was a rude and unnecessary way to bring him up.
you could've worded that part about Kurt better but yeah, true.
The fact that Gwen won that beef without even trying. Major L for Courtney love.
The fact that Gwen’s biggest hit was about Courtney Love, Major L for Gwen
@@j.c7719 dont speak
@@fredorubeno6547 ‘Hollaback Girl’ is her biggest hit, it sold 7 million copies.
@@fredorubeno6547 don’t speak was a no doubt song and it was not a part Gwen’s solo work. I don’t really think that counts.
@@j.c7719 and Courtney was too scared to fire back. Major L for Courtney Love
I think Mariah Carey’s obsessed was the best diss track haha
Clown was better, she really snapped on that one
Good Mariah Carey
"He's all up in my George Foreman" 😂😂
As much as I love Mariah, I think hollaback girl was a bigger hit. It was everywhere when it first came out, not only in USA but globally since I’m not even from USA.
This Seems Like Courtney Love is Obsessed with Gwen and Would Be Perfect for Her To Cover the Song.
Honestly Courtney's comment abt Gwen was just so unnecessary and stupid 🙄 sure her music is pretty good in my opinion but her reputation and personality has always been horrible. Gwen made hollaback girl an anthem 🙌
Exactly!
I sensed a little jealousy like she was low key hating 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Gwen was that it girl in the nineties and 00s every girl wanted to look like her and dress like her Courtney is just less aesthetically pleasing she just has a rough look to her lol
@@Model_Roe yep she was definitely jealous. Gwen was the breakout star of the 90s girl bands. Explains why she slept with Gavin, she wanted to be Gwen. I find women who are jealous of another try to steal their men so they can try to take them down a notch or feel closer to being them.
@@subwaydaddy exactly!!!!! And Courtney Love is actually talented in my opinion anyway but she relied too much on gimmicks and antics for attention instead of focusing on her music Gwen definitely had pretty privilege but she also consistently put out quality music plus she was likeable in my opinion that's why she got to the top Courtney Love always struck me as bitter
@@Model_Roe courtney is racist too
The fact that people still look down on Cheerleaders when they cheer for basketball and football season, practice eight hours a day, pull difficult and dangerous stunts, tumbling, and make it all look easy. It's also the sport where girls statistically get the most injuries, so I find it a bit misogynistic that people (especially those like Courtney) still look down on cheerleading even though it's changed a lot since its inception.
Gwen is like a cheerleader; hardworking, bubbly, and creative, just like the song! Courtney Love tried to insult her, but accidentally gave her a compliment. I'm just glad we got this iconic song out of it!
It’s so dumb. The majority of the cheerleaders at my school were also involved in school clubs that required high grades to join. Unless the coaches encourage poor ethics towards school, I think a lot of the time student athletes are very good students who contribute a lot to their schools. It’s just an easy to reach for stereotype to say the jocks and cheerleaders are the worthless pretty people or just bullies or whatever. All people are all kinds of things, and being a cheerleader doesn’t take away someone’s value and shouldn’t be an insult.
Well said.
Cheerleading is way more impressive that any sport like football or basketball.
@@iheartdelrey true and cheerleaders don't whine about their injuries
@@molly863 true! neither is being a band geek
Not me just finding out that Holla Back Girl was a diss track to none other than the iconic Courtney Love wow!!!!
Right?
Lmao same lol one rocking as$ disstrack that was my shxt lol
The lyrics to hollaback girl are so elementary but it’s such an iconic bop
I think that's why it worked for the era it's very 2000's highschool movie esque
And appealed to tweens but it's also so extremely catchy that the lyrics stick with everyone.
I definitely agree that only Gwen could have done this song.
It fit her like a glove.
Does that make you feel better about yourself calling out lyrics as elementary?
Courtney Love attributing someone else's success to their husband is just 🤦♀️
🙃 I didn't even think of that
Which is funny because one could easily say her success is due to her ex
@@imxel2193 Yeah that was the point
I did not even catch that but you are so right.
Projection at it’s finest?
Gwen Stefani is the Queen of the Mid 2000s along with Fergie and Nelly Furtado, as well as the most relevant of the 3 since the 90s, and without mentioning that she’s a Fashion Icon who looks even younger now in her 50s.
As for Courtney Love, I only know her for when she accused Olivia Rodrigo for "stealing" the Heartbroken Prom Girl aesthetic.
The Gwen Stefani-Nelly Furtado-Fergie era of pop was truly a time to be alive.
@@jalennelson6821 They need to have their own version of Bang Bang Bang
Followed by Katy Gaga Kesha Era ❤️
No she not. Britney more iconic than her. Avril Lavigne is, Christina Augerila and thats just the white girls 💀
Courtney Love is a legendary riot grrl, please do your research
Naomi Campbell: The ICON, the trendsetter. Love to see it.
Why am I just now finding out Hollaback Girl is a diss track??? I literally grew up with that song and never knew
Courtney Love thinking her acts are edgy when she is in fact all cringy and embarrassing
she acts like a kid.
Courtney Love has been on drugs and out of her mind most of her life. Yet people quote her all the time and give her attention. Figure it out
For the longest time, I didn’t even know Courtney Love was in a band and I only knew her as Kurt Cobain’s problematic widow. But I’ve recently listened to Hole’s Live Through This and it’s been on repeat for a month now. But tbh I feel conflicted about this since Courtney has made many racist and misogynistic comments in the past. Like Kanye, Morrissey, and Azealia Banks, Courtney is a great artist who is also a terrible person.
She’s in no way racist or a terrible person.
@@guineveremoonmist1060 look it up, there’s video evidence of it
she's evil and she has zero talent. she uses black magic to get what she wants and had kurt killed. did i mention zero talent? she's ugly in every sense of the word. she's beyond a mess
@@guineveremoonmist1060 she got an entire crowd of people at what I think was her concert to shout the n word with the hard r incase ur blind courtney love is white she shouldn't be saying that and she shouldn't be getting other people to say that either
@@j.c7719 czcams.com/video/vFpKXRO493c/video.html this is a great video full with evidence of Courtney being a complete jerk, your welcome ^^
Someone couldn’t keep the green eyed monster under control lol. 🙄😹
I’m older so I remember during an MTV award show I think, Madonna was being interviewed and someone kept throwing foundation compacts at her. Guess who it was? Miss Courtney Love trying to interrupt the interview. She JUST CANT STAND other females having the spotlight. She’s just such a jealous envious individual. No wonder she offed her husband. SMH.
Exactly it's obvious she's was jealous and low key hating
Way to transmute a negative into a positive!! This is the second reason why I love Hollaback girl. The first of course being that it is just awesome 🙂
Gwen opens the first verse with “I heard that you were talking shit and you didn’t think that I would hear it” like that’s pure icon behavior😂
Gwen seems so unproblematic. You got to be a special kind of person to beef with her.
Exactly she's always been the sweet girl next door and that's why I think she was more successful Courtney Love is actually talented but she just has a rough image and she's not aesthetically pleasing in the same way Gwen is it low key sounded like she was jealous
Uhhhhh. She's always been a heavy cultural appropriator and went so far with the Harajuku girls. Far from unproblematic
She’s not though. Gwen has her moments to. But it’s nothing compared to what courtney has said and done
@@sarab3417 I thought it was more of cultural appreciation? I’m not Japanese or Asian at all but I kinda saw it as a way of Gwen recognizing Harijuku (sorry if I misspelled it) culture. But that’s just me 🤷🏽♀️
@@sarab3417 How is having backup dancers that are a different race than you bad? Lol, and the act was big in Japan too.
Only person I believe to do Gwen justice is charli xcx they just both have this rare vibe and also they both have a song called hell yeah baby
You’re absolutely right. I saw Charlie xcx at a music festival and my ex said the same thing not knowing who Charlie was. She definitely had that high energy cool girl pop/rock vibe in 2015.
have you listened to hard 2 love by gwen? charli wrote that song for her but it ended up just stayed as a demo
Gwen is an icon. I loved that song so much I had no idea it was a diss!
I was 5 when this song came out and yearly it's still my bop. Last year I try to know the meaning of this song and finally just now learned that this is a baddaasss diss song
Me too.I loved the music video and song but didn't realize it was a diss track.
Listen, I’m not here for a lot Courtney’s shenanigans, but her band Hole was pretty great and imo underrated AF. But Gwen is for sure a legend for making a smash hit song in retaliation to shade and it will never not be iconic.
Released two outstanding rock albums in the 90s
@@tylerkochman1007 yep, Live Through This and Celebrity Skin.
@@illumifarti8052 Pretty On The Inside is also great imo. But yeah, Live Through This and Celebrity Skin are great albums too.
I loved some songs from ‘America’s Sweetheart’ and ‘Nobody’s Daughter’, truly poetic, evocative and gifted lyricist who writes her own songs too on guitar.
@@_sam_ddn I wasn’t into it’s whole noise rock sound, but I’m sure it’s brilliant in that’s genre
Gwen and Courtney are both iconic. I never cared for Nirvana, but Hole was such a great band. It's sad to see Courtney taking all these low blows at Gwen for no reason. A hit came out of it for Gwen, so she came out on top regardless. I'm surprised Hollaback Girl was Gwen's only Number 1.
Nirvana was great. I don't know what that has to do with anything, though. Nirvana was Kurt's band, Hole Courtney's. (also: Kurt had a lot to do with Hole's most successful album.)
@@lisasu7094 obviously because one band mate dated the other. It's not that random of a link lol
Nirvana and Hole are 2 different bands broski.
Honestly the good part is that the song was and still is a bop.
Agree I said the same thing they're both legends I actually like Holes music but Gwen from an aesthetic view point was prettier more marketable and could sell to a mass audience I remember she had a years long contract with Loreal and did movies Courtney Love in my opinion relied too much on gimmicks and antics for attention it looks like Courtney was dry hating lol
Gwen Stefani is relevant even here in Pakistan. Meanwhile no one has even heard of the other one outside the US.
Say what you want about Courtney but she's known worldwide guy, no matter what some random from Pakistan says.
@@toecutterjones okay, random from nowhere.
😂 I love how you refer to her at ‘the other one’
@@natashamartinez7735 haha! ;)
@@toecutterjones seriously. hole is a musical legend. courtney is a through and through mess but her band made a huge impact and it's saddening to see other people try to put courtney down because of a feud that happened years ago.
“Songs Written Due to Being Fed Up with Courtney Love” would make a helluva Spotify playlist.
Hollaback Girl
Stacked Actors
Most of In Utero
Probably a few Pumpkins songs
I’m screeching but true through
Trent Reznor also wrote one about her - It’s called “Starfuckers, Inc.” 😀
And Professional Widow by Tori Amos
Gwen Stefani always been a class act! I love her 💜
When the Pam & Tommy Hulu thing was coming out, Love said “the series is re-traumatizing for Pam.”
It was the one time I couldn’t find fault with something Love said. Then I thought oh man when Love’s the voice of reason you know something’s gone terribly wrong.
she also warned young starlets about Harvey Weinstein on camera years before but was passed off because she’s Courtney Love
She was right about that Tommy and Pamela biopic and Weinstain but when it came to putting down a fellow singer and even an teenage singer (Rodrigo) for just doing a photo similar to her,she can come across as a "not like other girls"but in an adult woman.
@@mirror-images and that Britney was being mistreated by her father
@@mirror-images wasn't she in the black book, too?
@@niccole3542 coming out of the Disney factory I highly doubt what love said is anywhere near the worst that’s been done to her already.
This literally makes me miss the 00s when I was just a little kid
This was one of the last videos I watched before my life changed, packed up and moved away from my family to start a new life. I was on my last days of a job I loved a lot, and miss. But this change is for a bigger goal. I’m leaving this comment to remind myself if I ever see your channel again and run through your videos. Life is great right now and it will keep getting greater
hope you’re doing well 💙💙
@@honestboy thank you for replying back after a few months! It’s been great just as I was hoping for! Hope you are doing great ❤️
why does courtney love have beef with everyone
Giving Courtney Love punk cred?
She's been a leech, a wreck, and a shit talker. Not much beyond that.
She’s just a bitter negative person
Keeps her in the press. Noel Gallagher does the same.
giving azealia banks
@@aaliyahate for real
Growing up Gwen def was (still is) in my playlist lol i remember coming home after school watching her music vids on music choice 😂😂
Lmao literally
I don’t think these young people even understand what she was saying. Gwen is the girl who subscribes to the system and tries to thrive in it, and she is. Courtney is the girl who cuts class, smokes cigarettes out back, and probably gets expelled. I.e., she is more transgressive, more anti-social in behaviour. Only if Gwen clings to an idea of herself as NOT the pretty, popular figure would that in any way bother her. And look what she did anyways: worked with Pharrell, went with the prevailing pop sounds of that time, made a great record… now she is a judge on a major network prime time talent show. She is mainstream. 🤷🏼♂️
Finally a comment that makes sense! Maybe because I'm old, and watched both of their successes play out in real time, and how quickly people forget, that there were a lot of disenchanted No Doubt fans, when Gwen went solo and started being her own brand, and wasn't "Just a Girl" but now was THAT girl; which is apparently what she wanted all along.
All Courtney said was ‘I was more the girl smoking behind the bike sheds, Gwen was more of the cheerleader’ it’s true and not offensive, Gwen took offence to it unnecessarily.
Oh really cause Courtney love was obsessed with the idea of being mainstream after her first major acting gig she even stopped playing music… I think its pretty obvious she made a backhand remark out of jealousy
@@Phoeberuthless No she always wanted to be a rock star and a movie star she said it many, many times and she didn’t quit music, ‘Celebrity Skin’ was released less than two years after Larry Flynt and she has continued to act and make music since. It wasn’t even a jealous comment it was an observation and a pretty accurate one at that.
What was the reason though? Like there's no reason to mention her at all😭😭😭
Had no clue “Hollaback Girl” was a diss song 😂
Gwen Stefani was my everything growing up!!!!!! To this day I'm a huge fan I actually respect Courtney Love as well as she's extremely talented but in my opinion relied too much on controversy and antics for attention trying to be relevant Gwen is extremely talented not to mention beautiful face was always giving plus she was likeable she definitely was more marketable and had more commercial appeal than Courtney Love that doesn't take away from her hard work and drive to get to the top in the way she did that comment is just disrespectful
I didn’t even know it was a diss track. I like both thou.
I love Courtney's music but I don't understand why she's so rude
I think this was over Gavin Rossdale tbh
not an excuse but courtney was crazy on crack when she said that about gwen
Lol i remember courtney stodden mention that courtney love will dm her calling her a sl*t
So I finally know the true meaning behind holla back girl… always enjoyed the song but now I have newfound respect for it. everything feels right.
The album was underrated even Andre 300 Collab
Gwen was THAT girl back in the day 😍😍😍😍
I've always loved Gwen❤❤❤ Her music is 🔥🔥🔥Sounds like Courtney was jealous. Maybe she needed that negative comment to get more publicity 🙄
Kelis could literally do this song lol but I get what you’re saying
Wooooooww. I never knew this. Nowwwww the lyrics make sense cuz even when it came out when I was little I was like “what the heck is she talking bout” but that’s one of my fav songs
How did I never know this!
I don’t have a side in this but it seems like Gwen lives rent free in Courtney’s head and it really shows, especially when she continued to say she slept with Gavin. Courtney, love, you needed to stop. It just became embarrassing at this point lol
I kind of put Courtney Love, Grimes, and Azealia Banks in the same group of influential women who are only remembered for their antics. People try and bring up people like Kanye, but Kanye is still known for other things. It feels like you have to be into grunge, music production, early 2010s pop culture, or incredibly queer to recognize Courtney, Grimes, and Azealia for their impacts on the music industry. You'll be hard pressed to find a queer DJ set list without 212, Anna Wintour or Count Contessa on it. You can't bring up 2010s music without mentioning visions and more specifically oblivion. And you definitely can't talk about grunge without talking about live through this. It's sad to see how these three are reduced to their controversy's, especially when you consider Grimes is no where near as problematic as Azealia or Courtney. Or even some of the pop it girlies. She's just weird as hell.
So it all started from Courtney “not being like other girls”?😑😑😑😑
More like a 'pick me' girl
@@greyLeicester That’s literally what they were trying to say- 🫠🤨
With the Kelis/Pharrell drama recently I'm seeing this song may have been intended for her 👀 there's a milkshake/hollaback girl mashup on here and you can hear her voice in this song. The Neptune's did her first 2 albums and were suppose to do the 3rd but bc of contract drama did not.
Wow I always wondered why she did the cheerleader thing in this video and why she made this song at that time. Had no idea this was a diss track lmaoo
Hole is such a great band but yeah Courtney can be complicated at times...
It is and she's talented to where she never had to rely on all the antics controversy and gimmicks for attention which in my opinion took away from how talented she really is I think she was doing too much for awhile and people got annoyed with her
@@Model_Roe except she did rely on gimmicks. She interrupted Madonna’s interview, she said the n word a bunch of times on stage, she said black people don’t belong in rock. She’s a horrible person
The clips of Of the music video u showed reminds me off Taylor’s shake it off music video and Olivias Good 4 u music video
Remind of other pop dis tracks. I don’t recall any right now
Unfortunately, I knew ppl came across Gwen on airplane and they said she was the RUDEST and the MEANEST woman ever acting like a diva! Her husband then Gavin was there too and he was the opposite he was total sweetheart and lowkey embarrassed by his wife 🤷🏻♀️
Imagine being on a plane and not having enough space to move around. I can understand someone being rude.
Hard to believe they were flying commercial lmfao
Well he's a narc, he's concerned about his image, if course he's going to be nice.
And people tend to exaggerate when they don't get what they want. They'll ask for an autograph in the bathroom and call the celeb rude when they don't get it.
She was in an abusive relationship, give the woman a break.
Not surprised if this is true she's also really freaking racist she's constantly appropriated cultures despite being called out multiple times
I love the Naomi reference at the end
i never knew that naomi campbell fact love it
To add to this video .... The Courtney interview was more than just a cheerleader comment. She said Gwen isn't a real rock star. Also, I firmly believe that when Gwen says "This my sh*t" , she is dissing Courtney for all of the allegations about her stealing music from Kurt Cobain after he died and saying she wrote it.
Honestly Gwen ate Courtney up without making a literal comment. And she deadass taught me how to spell bananas. If I’m ever spelling the word I instantly sing the lyrics to make sure I get it right
I think Courtney's initial comment wasn't that out of line tbh... people would compare the two a lot but it doesn't really make a lot of sense since, even when she was in a band, Gwen has always leaned more into pop whereas Courtney has always made music that's a lot more gritty and less mainstream so I'm sure that was frustrating. I dont agree with the things she said about Gwen later but at the end of the day shes just a person with an opinion and at least shes not hiding behind a keyboard when she shares them... Love them both tho both ICONS
its catchy, its upbeat and popular. I dont even understand the lyrics until now and didnt change the fact that its successful bigger than dont speak.
Justin Tranter of Semi Precious Weapons is a writer for Gwen also.
That's actually really badass. Gwen is awesome.
I had no idea. Beef or not, Gwen made it work
This and obsessed are the best diss tracks
The funny part was that the comment wasn't even that bad. It just meant she was the most popular girl, the cheerleader 📣 in high school
Family Guy's Cleveland perfectly summed up a "Hollaback Girl" in relation to Love. It seems Love has always been Jealous of Gwen, I mean sleeping with Gwen's BF and the 'Clothing Empire' comment, what she says of Gwen is very telling. I bet Love would Love to have a Clothing Label! Though, who wants to dress like a Babydoll that murdered her famous rock Musician partner though, right? 'Allegedly!' haha. I think all the diss Tracks about Love have gone to her head, I guess she's doing something right! I actually Like 'Hole' and one of Loves solo records though.
I didn't even know they had beef until this video
Gwen stefani still looks so amazing the lady doesn’t age
Its called cosmetic treatments & makeup
Never knew this
🤯🤯🤯
“ I ain’t your hollaback girl” as she literally spends the whole song holla-ing back
Courtney love is weird
They both completely rock so just leave it at that
gwen is such a clever artists
I always thought this song was a diss to Nelly Furtado because I thought "Give it To Me" (a song Nelly, Timbaland and Justin Timberlake did) was Nelly's clapback to "Hollaback Girl" lol
Naomi behind many a Legendary inspo!
My favorite Gwen song is a diss track, wow 😂
How did Courtney talk bad about cheerleaders? She literally said she’s not the popular girl, she’s never looked down on the figure of the cheerleader.
I've liked this song since i was 6 years old...and i didn't know it was a diss track lol
I never knew this
I love the song halaback girl!🥰🥰😺💕
And “Hollaback girl” went on to make more money for Gwen than Courtney ever saw.. well, not including what she stole from Kurt’s estate.
I see it now, the music video embodied Courtney's comment, the highschool and cheerleaders, lol 😂 Gwen is funny. Loved the Socal chula and Japanese fashion fusion, loved that Pharrell got involved. The song is catchy, overall total package. Backstory, diss track, fashion, upbeat, iconic.
Gwen has kept custody of her children and didn’t murder her husband 🤷🏼♀️
I think Avril could have done HollaBack girl
Yo, this is wild! We got a banger of a song all because she was insulted by being called a cheerleader! 🤣
Never knew this was a diss track. Wth
Seventeen magazine interview, how ironic
Wait Courtney? Gwen? It’s giving Total Drama don’t you think? 🤔
I had no idea lol!!!
Learned something new lol
I didn’t know Gwen was dyslexic😭 I’m so dead lmfao anytime anyone wants to spell bananas, they think to her😭
Such an unexpected beef. I would think Courtney would be more accepting and happy for Gwen and vice versa.
Damn.... you do your research. I had never even heard about this.
I was today's years old when I found out Holla Back Girl was a diss 😂
Oh wow, I didn't know that
Didn't know they beef
What a hollaback girl means?
At This Point Who Hasn't Steam Rolled Courtney Love At One Point In Their Music Career!? 😂
does anyone remember Gwens perfume? I loved that shit. haha
It’s funny because I never would’ve heard of Gavin if it weren’t for Gwen and I never would’ve heard of Courtney if it weren’t for Kurt.
I fw culture appropriating Gwen heavy tbh lol Hollaback Girl was my shi.. Harajuku Gwen was iconic.
I cant name a single thing courtney love has done...
Please do a video about Jess Glynne