*Christians! Join and Teach me about Jesus!* - _03 July 2024 ; Wednesday_ 0:00:00 Stream begins with Wesam, and Farid, followed by discussion 0:24:37 Christian # 1 : Kenny 0:45:01 Christian # 2 : ExB 1:34:33 Christian # 3 : Jack Bull 2:11:17 Christian # 4 : br 2:33:31 Christian # 5 : Cyril The Great 2:42:51 Christian # 6 : moses 3:14:41 Concluding remarks
This argument utterly annihilates Christianity: Christians believe that God is all-loving and all-knowing. And that Jesus died for their sins and that he is God. In the bible, it says that Jesus asked the Father to save him from crucifixion, meaning that Jesus, who knew that his crucifixion would forgive the sins of people, didn’t want people’s sins to be forgiven. Rather, he preferred for himself to be saved. So, how can Jesus be all-loving when he didn’t want to die for your sins? And how could he be all-knowing? Didn’t Jesus pre-incarnate know that he didn’t want to die and that he would die? Psalm 91:9-16 (which Jesus affirms is about him in Matthew 4:6) If you say, “The Lord is my refuge,” and you make the Most High your dwelling, no harm will overtake you, no disaster will come near your tent. For he will command his angels concerning you to guard you in all your ways; they will lift you up in their hands so that you will not strike your foot against a stone. You will tread on the lion and the cobra; you will trample the great lion and the serpent. Because he loves me,” says the Lord, “I will rescue him; I will protect him, for he acknowledges my name. He will call on me, and I will answer him; I will be with him in trouble. I will deliver him and honour him. With long life, I will satisfy him and show him my salvation.” So, the crucifixion should not have even happened because Jesus asked God to save him, and he was promised to be saved from literally anything. That’s why Jesus cried out, “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?” Christians believe that God lied-which the bible says God can’t do. There is nothing that a Christian can bring up to debunk this. If they bring up anything like saying the crucifixion is prophesied in the Old Testament-it isn’t-you could say one of two things. “Okay, that contradicts Psalms 91, meaning the bible has a contradiction.” Or you could argue it isn't about the crucifixion. Even if they bring up the New Testament for rebuttal instead, their arguments can still be debunked. They could say Jesus preached about the crucifixion, and he accepted it. Then, why did Jesus express the desire not to be crucified? It seems as if Jesus has conflicts within himself. Moreover, on the cross, he expressed his hatred for the crucifixion when he shouted, “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?” Why the inner conflicts within Jesus? To end, I could expand this by saying that if the crucifixion was needed, why was Jesus, the all-knowing, all-wise, reluctant to it? He should have known its significance and should have accepted it. The Bible is filled with contradictions and conflicting theologies, which is why Islam is superior; the Quran and Sunnah are simple in teaching who God is. There are many other arguments against Christianity, which, if used as a uniting force, could completely destroy Christianity.
1. Jesus did pray to the father to take away his “cup” and thats because of his human nature which reflects his human nature experiencing the fear of suffering on the cross BUT at the end of his prayer he tells the father “yet not as I will, but as You will”, ultimately he still submits to the father and he still knows his mission and what he came here for. 2. Firstly psalms 91 is about David not Jesus but lets say theoretically its about Jesus, Jesus was protected his entire life. whether it was in the wilderness or even on the cross, read matthew 26:53.
Great stream machallah. Please Farid make more streams like these and bring Wesam of course. I learned a lot of things Al Hamdulillah 😊 Jazakom allahou khayran
Farid, please keep bringing Wesam to these live streams. I saw some comments in another video criticizing Wesam for his 'harshness' with the guests. Wesam is simply doing his job, conversing with the guest, making sure they don't avoid certain questions, holding them to their standard, etc. Being all sweet and letting the guest get away with their double standard and certain claims won't get anywhere.
السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته جزاكما الله خيرا الحمد الله. Amazing brother Farid and Wesam 👍. Just seeing you guyz together has made my day. I need to get my times in order I need to pick brother wesams brain. Shiekh Farid I need to start with you also with some hadiths in shaa ALLAH 🤗🤗🤗. Love you guyz for ALLAH may ALLAH bring you guyz again and again to help us learn both sides of our Deen and dawah to Christians from their own sources.
On Dots Connected 2 Islam, we did a whole stream on the interpretation of the dream of the King as well as Daniel's dream and why it can only be Islam and Muslims.
Daniel prophecy about Jesus. In his vision. "One like a Son of Man coming with the clouds of heaven. He approached the ancient of days. Every people worshiped him and he had everlasting dominion and kingdom. This is far from islam Daniel 7:13-14 13 “In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was one like a son of man,[a] coming with the clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence. 14 He was given authority, glory and sovereign power; all nations and peoples of every language worshiped him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion that will not pass away, and his kingdom is one that will never be destroyed.
اللَّهُمَّ أَعِنِّيْ عَلَى ذِكْرِكَ وَشُكْرِكَ وَحُسْنِ عِبَادَتِكَ Allahumma a inni Ala Zikrik Wa Shukrika Wa Husni Ibadatika O Allah, help me remember You, to be grateful to You, and to worship You,
Ya Muqallib al-quloob thabbit qalbi 'ala deenik يَا مُقَلِّبَ الْقُلُوبِ ثَبِّتْ قَلْبِى عَلَى دِينِكَ “O Controller of hearts, make my heart firm in Your religion.”
Dua to Protect Us from Shirk الَّلهُمَّ إِنِّي أَعُوذُ بِكَ أَنْ أُشْرِكَ بِكَ وأَنا َعلَمُ وأَستَغفِرُكَ لما لا أَعلَمُ Allahumma inni a`udhu bika an ushrika bika wa ana a`lamu wa astaghfiruka lima la a`lamu ‘ O Allah I seek refuge in You from knowingly associating partners with You, and I seek Your forgiveness for that which I do not know.’
Whoever asks Allah (s.w.t) Paradise three times, Paradise says: 'O Allah, admit him into Paradise', and whoever seeks refuge from the Fire three times, the Fire says: 'O Allah, save him from the Fire.'" اللَّهُمَّ إِنِّي أَسْأَلُكَ الْجَنَّةَ وَأَعُوذُ بِكَ مِنَ النَّارِ
Sayyidul Istighfar اَللَّهُمَّ أَنْتَ رَبِّىْ لآ إِلهَ إلاَّ أَنْتَ Allahumma anta Rabbi la ilaha illa anta, خَلَقْتَنِىْ وَأَنَا عَبْدُكَ Khalaqtani wa ana Abduka وَأَنَا عَلى عَهْدِكَ wa ana ala ahdika وَوَعْدِكَ مَا اسْتَطَعْتُ wa wadika mastatatu أَعُوْذُبِكَ مِنْ شَرِّمَا صَنَعْتُ Audhu bika min Sharri ma sanatu أبُوْءُ لَكَ بِنِعْمَتِكَ عَلَىَّ abu’u Laka binimatika `alaiya وَأَبُوءُ لَكَ بِذَنْبِي wa abu’u laka bizanbi فَاغْفِرْ لِي faghfir lee فَإِنَّهُ لَا يَغْفِرُ الذُّنُوبَ إِلَّا أَنْتَ fa innahu laa yaghfirudz dzubuuba illa anta The Prophet (pbuh) added. “If somebody recites it during the day with firm faith in it, and dies on the same day before the evening, he will be from the people of Paradise; and if somebody recites it at night with firm faith in it, and dies before the morning, he will be from the people of Paradise.”
Praise Allah With the Most Virtuous Dhikr Abu Umaamah Al-Baheli رضي الله عنه says that the Messenger ﷺ passed by him while he was moving his lips, so he asked: “What are you saying O Abu Umaamah?” He replied: “I am remembering my Lord.” He ﷺ said: “Shall I not inform you of the most virtuous dhikr for the night and day? It is that you say: اَلْحَمْدُ لِلّٰهِ عَدَدَ مَا خَلَقَ al-ḥamdu lillāhi ʿadada mā khalaq, All praise is for Allah as much as what He has created. وَالْحَمْدُ لِلّٰهِ مِلْءَ مَا خَلَقَ wal-ḥamdu lillāhi mil’a mā khalaq, All praise is for Allah as much as what can fill His creation. وَالْحَمْدُ لِلّٰهِ عَدَدَ مَا فِي الْأَرْضِ وَالسَّمَاءِ wal-ḥamdu lillāhi ʿadada mā fil-arḍi wa-s-samā’, All praise is for Allah as much as what is in the earth and the sky. وَالْحَمْدُ لِلّٰهِ مِلْءَ مَا فِي الْأَرْضِ وَالسَّمَاءِ wal-ḥamdu lillāhi mil’a mā fil-arḍi wa-s-samā’, All praise is for Allah as much as what can fill up the earth and the sky. وَالْحَمْدُ لِلّٰهِ عَدَدَ مَا أَحْصَىٰ كِتَابُهُ wal-ḥamdu lillāhi ʿadada mā aḥṣā kitābuh, All praise is for Allah as much as what His Book has recorded. وَالْحَمْدُ لِلّٰهِ مِلْءَ مَا أَحْصَىٰ كِتَابُهُ wal-ḥamdu lillāhi mil’a mā aḥṣā kitābuh, All praise is for Allah as much as what fills His Book. وَالْحَمْدُ لِلّٰهِ عَدَدَ كُلِّ شَيْءٍ wal-ḥamdu lillāhi ʿadada kulli shay’, All praise is for Allah as much as everything. وَالْحَمْدُ لِلّٰهِ مِلْءَ كُلِّ شَيْءٍ wal-ḥamdu lillāhi mil’a kulli shay’. All praise is for Allah as much as what fills everything. (Source: Ahmad: 22198 and Ibn Hibaan: 830)
hey this is great farid I'm the one who first commentted for you to make a christian chanal about errors in the bible, we need to invite christian prince
Farid last guy was prima he is troll y u saying him comeback he is been destroyed by dr imran from ef dawah he changed his name now plz dont bring trolls he is same as mesihi muslim that wesam said about 😂
As Salaam Alaikum Farid can we have a talk about Islam because there are certain things that I just can’t seem to find an answer to and since ur quite knowledgeable about Hadith and Quran would u please help me as it is affecting my faith I have tried asking Dr Zakir Naik but he didn’t respond me …. As I have seen ur videos I am new to the channel but there are still certain questions that I have and would love to ask you
The Cyril dude knew he was in trouble so he started trolling, intresting way to run Lol. These xtians have taken their scholars as gods besides Allah like the quran says in 9:31
This isn't related to the topic, I do have a off hand question about something being Haram or Halal Is listening to music something which if someone reverted to Islam is explicity Haram, or is it something that is in only certain circumstances? An example being hanging out listening to music vs. Having it in the beginning of ur videos.
@ShahzadAhmad-nb6si is it a Sunnah from a Hadith or where is this from?, I'm not educated in Hadith or know the whole Quran (I don't know much Arabic so I have to use English translations to understand it.)
If @FaridResponds or someone else can answer this I would greatly appreciate it :) I have been watching Dawah videos sometimes and other Muslim Content Creators. I noticed one person when they bring up what Christians call the Holy Spirit. This person tells them in Islam that they have the Angel Gabriel. Is this correct?, sorry I don't know too many people that speak English well to understand me is why I come to ask some questions off topic 😅
@@richy11ifyHey bro, there are different opinions regarding music, but the majority forbids it because of certain hadiths and storys that the devil used music to stop people from worshipping Narrated Abu 'Amir or Abu Malik Al-Ash'ari: that he heard the Prophet (ﷺ) saying, "From among my followers there will be some people who will consider illegal sexual intercourse, the wearing of silk, the drinking of alcoholic drinks and the use of musical instruments, as lawful.
1.The Holy Trinity= the Father is the only source and cause for the existence of the Son and of the Spirit from eternity. The three are different but never separate in any sense, and they all share one and same all-powerful nature. 2. Christ= the Son dressed the human nature on Himself in the incarnation and became also a Son of man. 3. As saint apostle Paul explained in one of his letters the OT is simply the shadow of the Body that is Christ. There is difference in essence between the two but the shadow can also give a lot of information on the "shape" of the Body before we can finally recognize the same!
It is illogical and this was not preached by the prophets, peace be upon them, in the Old Testament, nor even in the New Testament. The Trinity is a heresy that was invented later.
"the Father is the only source and cause for the existence of the Son and of the Spirit from eternity" If someone's existence has a cause, then that existence is an intrinsically possible one. Having a cause for your existence, after all, means having a beginning. This contradicts with your other description; of them existing since past eternity. You can't have it both ways. It also means that you depend on an external cause for your existence. So your existence is contingent. Hence, the statement of yours makes no logical sense. It's actually a repurposed Platonic idea. Plato believed the universe to be beginninglessly eternal. The reasoning was that since God exists without a beginning, and because God is "The Maker", i.e. Creator, then there has to be a perpetually existent creation. So they said that the universe as a whole was unique in that sense: having existed since beginningless eternity alongside its Maker. They called it the monogenes ouranos; "the only begotten Heaven", referring to the beginningless existence of the created universe. The Creator preceded the created universe, not in the sense of time, but like how you precede your shadow. Meaning that you don't depend on the existence of your shadow, but your shadow does depend on yours, while you and your shadow exist simultaneously. Funnily enough, you yourself use "shadow" in your arguments, just like how the pre-Christian Greek philosophers/theologians did. These ideas were thoroughly refuted by imam Al Ghazali, over a thousand years ago, and so by extension, the same refutation applies to the Christian 'version' thereof. It's only in John's Gospel where Jesus is called "only begotten Son", and the Greek uses the same Platonic nomenclature. "Only begotten son" was also used in Greek to describe the anthropomorph offspring of deities, aside from simply describing a (literal) only child. The Yuhanan evangelist is clearly engaging with those prevalent ideas, and he just substitutes the eternal universe with the eternal existence of the Son. But it's the same basic idea. Even the reasoning remains similar. Christians always argue that because God is Love, there must've been an eternal object of affection, which would be the Son, according to them. This logic is flawed, obviously, since God is also attributed with Wrath, and you wouldn't conclude that therefor there must've also existed a beginninglessly eternal sinner. "The three are different but never separate in any sense" I disagree. It's logically incoherent to say that. Distinction between beings, after all, is only ever possible when plurality is already a fact. Distinction between beings necessitates multiplicity. You can't distinguish between an absolute oneness. "Between" literally means "by two each", and is defined as the place or space that separates two or more beings or concepts. Hence, the terms "between" and "oneness" are mutually contradictory. If you truly believed in the absolute oneness of God, you wouldn't be talking about differences and you'd never have to mention "three". It's actually incumbent upon you, as a Christian, to distinguish between these three. You don't believe that Maryam gave birth to the Holy Spirit. You can't claim that Jesus uttered the words; "This is My beloved son, with whom I am well-pleased." And it's blasphemous for you to say that the Father died on the cross. That suffices. That proves distinction and therefor separation. Your claim, then, is rejected. These three monikers cannot be used interchangeably. You do, and you have to, distinguish between them, and therefor, they are three distinct beings, and not one and the same, and certainly not inseparable in every possible sense. This last bit is complete nonsense, with all due respect. Either there exists one God, or there exist two (or more). If there exist two gods, then they're either 100% identical to one another in all possible regards, or (they're) not. If they're 100% identical, then they're indistinguishable. If the two are entirely indistinguishable, then they're not more than one to begin with. Therefor it follows that if there exist two gods, that they can't be 100% identical to one another. This would be part of our argument against polytheism, and while it isn't completed, the above is enough to prove the point. Two or three beings have to be distinguishable, and are therefor by definition separated. This is where Christians point out (to me) that the term "being" shouldn't be used. But by "being" I mean anything that or anyone who exists. That's actually the most important name of God according to you; the "I Am". And Jesus certainly was 'a human being'. To reject this term, is to effectively call each third non-existent, which you cannot do, and so you have to accept its usage and meaning. The Church was well-aware of how problematic this description was, and so it went out of its way to hide this simple truth behind confusing nomenclature, bogus terminology, and illogical similitudes. Hypostasis, triunion, essence, nature, persona, substance, etc. From my personal discussions with Christians, I've concluded that many of them use the word "God" as a genus designation, which is very peculiar. In other words, they reduce "God" to a genus, and there's a Father species, a Son species, and a Spirit species. Like, the Father is God and the Son is God and the Spirit is God, but they are not three gods, but One (and the same) God, like how Timmy, Jane and Abdul are all Homo sapiens, or how Spot, Scratchy and Milo are all Canis familiaris. This allows you to avoid describing "God" as an actual being. After all, 'man', or 'the human being' is merely descriptive; it doesn't specify an actual individual. And 'a dog' isn't a specific individual, but can refer to any particular dog. They do this subconsciously and not intentional, but that's often what follows when engaging with them and hearing how they respond to my argument. What's a real existent being, to them, is "the Father", for example, and that's then labled as "God", and so they have three individual beings who are one and the same "God". This itself is highly problematic, but also; it doesn't solve the issue. You still have three distinct beings, and therefor, three distinct gods. Milo, Scratchy and Spot, while sharing the same binomen, are actually three distinct individual existences. You have to count them as three, by adding 1+1+1, since each 1 here represents its own unique existence. Besides, what's to prevent one from introducing additional members of this "God genus"? Why three? Why not four, or four thousand? Three is very arbitrary now.
@@XaeeD yep lol, they can’t answer, ask them of the statement ‘the father is God’ is an is of identity or predication. If they answer identity then they fall into Modalism as you said, and if they say predication, then they admit to tritheism, also if they reject the law of identity as understood to be one of the three laws of logic, then they reject classical logic and your discussion with them should end there as I don’t really see the point in trying to reason with someone who rejects one of the three most fundamental logic principles we use to rationalise and reason. And don’t even get me started on the incarnation, that’s a whole can of worms that I can’t be bothered to get into
This stream gave me some things to think about. I'm sorry I was being a little facetious to you in the previous comment section. Hopefully you'll find the way the truth and the life sooner rather than later. God bless.
He already has what is your proof for the resurrection? Doesn't the bible say if jesus as never resurrected your faith is meaningless? What's your proof for it? Pls give me that
To learn about Christianity and be genuine about it, I would go to scholars for/against the theology. In addition, check historical evidence and significance. Asking a layman is insufficient, misleading, and a trainwreck of confusion. Unfortunately, this is true for any religion. Most people don't really understand their religion. Farid, I am very surprised you have not read the Bible... I challenge you to do it and give your own personal take. It would make for very interesting commentary and content. I love your content. Yes, I am a Christian, but that does not mean I don't appreciate intellect and other worldviews. God bless
Respect. Open to learning. Every Christian that joined seemed more familiar with the Bible that I was. Unfortunately, most didn't want to talk about Jesus.
Later Additions dont Negate, its Validity, id have to Really Disagree with Jack on Son Of Man in Mark.. even if it was Added in as a Later Work, its Still Very Valid because All Gospels Seems to consistently Use it to Identify it to Jesus, and His Divinty. and The Old Testiment, and Since He Cant Argue Against the Dead Sea scholers, Id Have to Say Jack is Over stepping, and His Opinion is Invalid on Atleast the Son Of Man part and Anybody else with that Opinion.. and also hard to Argue it was a Later addition to All Gospels, especally if it Perfectly fits the Old Testiment Narritive, Which we Know Couldnt have Been Fabricated.. Also Jack Quotes Book of Enoch which most scholers Dont consider Scripture..
The prophets of the old point to Jesus. When Jesus spoke to the Jews he use there scripture concerning him. But muslim do not care about prophecy, scripture or anything. Like a lost kid in the desert without path. Isaiah Virgin will concieve, Child is born, Son is given , He will be called mighty God. Isaiah 9:6 For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
@@Yousef-em8og Because Jesus is one with the Father. When you see Jesus you see the Father. Everything father does the son also do. Everything father have created is trough the Son and the Son does nothing without the Father. God is a spirit. Father and Son is in that spirit.
@@enockt6218the apostles were also one with the father so when are we going to add them to the trinity? Also if this was a prophecy about Jesus then it wouldn’t add the main attribute of a different person of the trinity
It's about King Hezekiah not Jesus There are plenty of videos and articles on this. Furthermore Nowhere in the NT Jesus is called Everlasting Father, Wonderful Councellor , El Gibbor (Mighty God)!!
2:08:00 Faird tell wesam to stop validating this Christian’s falsehood. He had no right or authority to justify or legitimise his shirk. This is the brain rot I see from people who get too close to the misguided. His little speech to console his Christian buddy here is unacceptable to any Sunni
What the heck are you talking about? What about having personal experiences from Allaah invalidates any Sunni position? The books of the Salaf are FILLED with their narrations about signs they witnessed or miraculous events that happened to them. I never validated anything, which is why I said those experiences can't supercede logic or evidence.
@@BeyondDoubtTheology And you chose to say this (validate personal experience) off the back of the Christian’s [brief] mention of his personal experience that led him to Christianity, one can reasonably assume you doing this to be a form of defence/acceptance of his personal experience. In reality, his experience is not from Allah or the truth since it led him to polytheism and man worship. This is unacceptable to any Sunni Muslim. Caveat; I’m not discounting the reality of personal experiences, but not all of claimants of them are real or legit
@@idrea43 How about this, the next time I'm live, come to the panel and bring up this contention. And I will see exactly how much you know about the principles of the Sunnah or if you're just yapping in order to find something to criticize. My words were clear, no one with an ounce of husnul dhunn or charitability would ever interpret my words as me condoning the usage of dreams and experiences to justify being a Christian. I was speaking as a matter of principle and methodology that we shouldn't belittle people's experiences because it's something that we also have in our tradition. Have a good day.
@@BeyondDoubtTheology This isn’t about criticising for criticism’s sake but your timing to endorse personal experience looked sus (right after the Christian’s) and with this new trend of Muslims justifying disbelief, it was important to guarantee someone as crucial as Farid wasn’t associated with it. And this isn’t a contention since you’ve already set the record straight, I have no problem admitting my error
*Christians! Join and Teach me about Jesus!* - _03 July 2024 ; Wednesday_
0:00:00 Stream begins with Wesam, and Farid, followed by discussion
0:24:37 Christian # 1 : Kenny
0:45:01 Christian # 2 : ExB
1:34:33 Christian # 3 : Jack Bull
2:11:17 Christian # 4 : br
2:33:31 Christian # 5 : Cyril The Great
2:42:51 Christian # 6 : moses
3:14:41 Concluding remarks
Shukran
Great stream 👍 May Allah bless you both ❤ جزاك الله خيرا
This argument utterly annihilates Christianity:
Christians believe that God is all-loving and all-knowing. And that Jesus died for their sins and that he is God. In the bible, it says that Jesus asked the Father to save him from crucifixion, meaning that Jesus, who knew that his crucifixion would forgive the sins of people, didn’t want people’s sins to be forgiven. Rather, he preferred for himself to be saved. So, how can Jesus be all-loving when he didn’t want to die for your sins? And how could he be all-knowing? Didn’t Jesus pre-incarnate know that he didn’t want to die and that he would die?
Psalm 91:9-16 (which Jesus affirms is about him in Matthew 4:6)
If you say, “The Lord is my refuge,” and you make the Most High your dwelling, no harm will overtake you, no disaster will come near your tent. For he will command his angels concerning you to guard you in all your ways; they will lift you up in their hands so that you will not strike your foot against a stone. You will tread on the lion and the cobra; you will trample the great lion and the serpent. Because he loves me,” says the Lord, “I will rescue him; I will protect him, for he acknowledges my name. He will call on me, and I will answer him; I will be with him in trouble. I will deliver him and honour him. With long life, I will satisfy him and show him my salvation.”
So, the crucifixion should not have even happened because Jesus asked God to save him, and he was promised to be saved from literally anything. That’s why Jesus cried out, “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?” Christians believe that God lied-which the bible says God can’t do.
There is nothing that a Christian can bring up to debunk this. If they bring up anything like saying the crucifixion is prophesied in the Old Testament-it isn’t-you could say one of two things. “Okay, that contradicts Psalms 91, meaning the bible has a contradiction.” Or you could argue it isn't about the crucifixion. Even if they bring up the New Testament for rebuttal instead, their arguments can still be debunked. They could say Jesus preached about the crucifixion, and he accepted it. Then, why did Jesus express the desire not to be crucified? It seems as if Jesus has conflicts within himself. Moreover, on the cross, he expressed his hatred for the crucifixion when he shouted, “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?” Why the inner conflicts within Jesus?
To end, I could expand this by saying that if the crucifixion was needed, why was Jesus, the all-knowing, all-wise, reluctant to it? He should have known its significance and should have accepted it. The Bible is filled with contradictions and conflicting theologies, which is why Islam is superior; the Quran and Sunnah are simple in teaching who God is. There are many other arguments against Christianity, which, if used as a uniting force, could completely destroy Christianity.
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1. Jesus did pray to the father to take away his “cup” and thats because of his human nature which reflects his human nature experiencing the fear of suffering on the cross BUT at the end of his prayer he tells the father “yet not as I will, but as You will”, ultimately he still submits to the father and he still knows his mission and what he came here for.
2. Firstly psalms 91 is about David not Jesus but lets say theoretically its about Jesus, Jesus was protected his entire life. whether it was in the wilderness or even on the cross, read matthew 26:53.
@@franklinclinton_1988FC Jesus was not protected on the cross he died. You should reread what I wrote.
@@franklinclinton_1988FC Psalm 91 is about Jesus. Jesus says it is about him in Matthew 4:6. Stop with the dishonesty. It’s not about David.
@@franklinclinton_1988FC Regarding your first point, how do you explain, “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?”
Great stream machallah. Please Farid make more streams like these and bring Wesam of course. I learned a lot of things Al Hamdulillah 😊 Jazakom allahou khayran
Hey Farid can you link wesams Chanel if he has one. I really enjoyed listening to him. Thanks
Nvm you plugged him at the end
wow how awesome for Dr Jack Bull to just jump on.
Farid, please keep bringing Wesam to these live streams. I saw some comments in another video criticizing Wesam for his 'harshness' with the guests. Wesam is simply doing his job, conversing with the guest, making sure they don't avoid certain questions, holding them to their standard, etc. Being all sweet and letting the guest get away with their double standard and certain claims won't get anywhere.
Keep having Wesam may Allah bless you both ❤
What is his channel name?
Great stream, Do more streams like this with Wesam please, or bring Zakir Hussain
السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته
جزاكما الله خيرا الحمد الله.
Amazing brother Farid and Wesam 👍. Just seeing you guyz together has made my day. I need to get my times in order I need to pick brother wesams brain. Shiekh Farid I need to start with you also with some hadiths in shaa ALLAH 🤗🤗🤗. Love you guyz for ALLAH may ALLAH bring you guyz again and again to help us learn both sides of our Deen and dawah to Christians from their own sources.
Good analogy to make him understand.
On Dots Connected 2 Islam, we did a whole stream on the interpretation of the dream of the King as well as Daniel's dream and why it can only be Islam and Muslims.
That was a great stream.
Hell yeah Muslims love shirk.
Daniel prophecy about Jesus. In his vision. "One like a Son of Man coming with the clouds of heaven. He approached the ancient of days. Every people worshiped him and he had everlasting dominion and kingdom.
This is far from islam
Daniel 7:13-14
13 “In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was one like a son of man,[a] coming with the clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence. 14 He was given authority, glory and sovereign power; all nations and peoples of every language worshiped him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion that will not pass away, and his kingdom is one that will never be destroyed.
@Jesusandmohammedarebrothers
According to the quran he was allahs eternal word and spirit
@Jesusandmohammedarebrothers oh. Allah's words are not eternal?
Allahumma barik. thank you brothers
Jack Bull is the personification of “Allah guides whom he wills” may Allah guide him to Islam to the absolute truth
Earliest Pauline christians were binatarians
*_Masha'Allah, Wesam is a force to reckon._*
THE ONLY WAY CHRISTIANS WILL COME TO THE STREAM ALL OF THEM IS FOR BOTHER FARID TO SHOW UP ONLY THEY CANNOT JOIN WHEN BROTHER WESAM IS THERE
Such an underrated duo and video ❤
Justin Martyr never uses prologue of John to put forward his logos theology.
Back again with another wesam banger ❤❤
اللَّهُمَّ أَعِنِّيْ عَلَى ذِكْرِكَ وَشُكْرِكَ وَحُسْنِ عِبَادَتِكَ
Allahumma a inni Ala Zikrik Wa Shukrika Wa Husni Ibadatika
O Allah, help me remember You, to be grateful to You, and to worship You,
Ya Muqallib al-quloob thabbit qalbi 'ala deenik
يَا مُقَلِّبَ الْقُلُوبِ ثَبِّتْ قَلْبِى عَلَى دِينِكَ
“O Controller of hearts, make my heart firm in Your religion.”
Dua to Protect Us from Shirk
الَّلهُمَّ إِنِّي أَعُوذُ بِكَ أَنْ أُشْرِكَ بِكَ وأَنا َعلَمُ وأَستَغفِرُكَ لما لا أَعلَمُ
Allahumma inni a`udhu bika an ushrika bika wa ana a`lamu wa astaghfiruka lima la a`lamu ‘
O Allah I seek refuge in You from knowingly associating partners with You, and I seek Your forgiveness for that which I do not know.’
Whoever asks Allah (s.w.t) Paradise three times, Paradise says: 'O Allah, admit him into Paradise', and whoever seeks refuge from the Fire three times, the Fire says: 'O Allah, save him from the Fire.'"
اللَّهُمَّ إِنِّي أَسْأَلُكَ الْجَنَّةَ وَأَعُوذُ بِكَ مِنَ النَّارِ
Sayyidul Istighfar
اَللَّهُمَّ أَنْتَ رَبِّىْ لآ إِلهَ إلاَّ أَنْتَ
Allahumma anta Rabbi la ilaha illa anta,
خَلَقْتَنِىْ وَأَنَا عَبْدُكَ
Khalaqtani wa ana Abduka
وَأَنَا عَلى عَهْدِكَ
wa ana ala ahdika
وَوَعْدِكَ مَا اسْتَطَعْتُ
wa wadika mastatatu
أَعُوْذُبِكَ مِنْ شَرِّمَا صَنَعْتُ
Audhu bika min Sharri ma sanatu
أبُوْءُ لَكَ بِنِعْمَتِكَ عَلَىَّ
abu’u Laka binimatika `alaiya
وَأَبُوءُ لَكَ بِذَنْبِي
wa abu’u laka bizanbi
فَاغْفِرْ لِي
faghfir lee
فَإِنَّهُ لَا يَغْفِرُ الذُّنُوبَ إِلَّا أَنْتَ
fa innahu laa yaghfirudz dzubuuba illa anta
The Prophet (pbuh) added. “If somebody recites it during the day with firm faith in it, and dies on the same day before the evening, he will be from the people of Paradise; and if somebody recites it at night with firm faith in it, and dies before the morning, he will be from the people of Paradise.”
Praise Allah With the Most Virtuous Dhikr
Abu Umaamah Al-Baheli رضي الله عنه says that the Messenger ﷺ passed by him while he was moving his lips, so he asked: “What are you saying O Abu Umaamah?” He replied: “I am remembering my Lord.”
He ﷺ said: “Shall I not inform you of the most virtuous dhikr for the night and day? It is that you say:
اَلْحَمْدُ لِلّٰهِ عَدَدَ مَا خَلَقَ
al-ḥamdu lillāhi ʿadada mā khalaq,
All praise is for Allah as much as what He has created.
وَالْحَمْدُ لِلّٰهِ مِلْءَ مَا خَلَقَ
wal-ḥamdu lillāhi mil’a mā khalaq,
All praise is for Allah as much as what can fill His creation.
وَالْحَمْدُ لِلّٰهِ عَدَدَ مَا فِي الْأَرْضِ وَالسَّمَاءِ
wal-ḥamdu lillāhi ʿadada mā fil-arḍi wa-s-samā’,
All praise is for Allah as much as what is in the earth and the sky.
وَالْحَمْدُ لِلّٰهِ مِلْءَ مَا فِي الْأَرْضِ وَالسَّمَاءِ
wal-ḥamdu lillāhi mil’a mā fil-arḍi wa-s-samā’,
All praise is for Allah as much as what can fill up the earth and the sky.
وَالْحَمْدُ لِلّٰهِ عَدَدَ مَا أَحْصَىٰ كِتَابُهُ
wal-ḥamdu lillāhi ʿadada mā aḥṣā kitābuh,
All praise is for Allah as much as what His Book has recorded.
وَالْحَمْدُ لِلّٰهِ مِلْءَ مَا أَحْصَىٰ كِتَابُهُ
wal-ḥamdu lillāhi mil’a mā aḥṣā kitābuh,
All praise is for Allah as much as what fills His Book.
وَالْحَمْدُ لِلّٰهِ عَدَدَ كُلِّ شَيْءٍ
wal-ḥamdu lillāhi ʿadada kulli shay’,
All praise is for Allah as much as everything.
وَالْحَمْدُ لِلّٰهِ مِلْءَ كُلِّ شَيْءٍ
wal-ḥamdu lillāhi mil’a kulli shay’.
All praise is for Allah as much as what fills everything.
(Source: Ahmad: 22198 and Ibn Hibaan: 830)
Do more of these
May Allah swt bless you brother's 🤲 keep up the good work you doing jazakal Allah hairan.watching from the Gambia 🇬🇲🇬🇲
Even amongst the ebonites/nazarenes did differ amongst each other too
3:21 my lineage goes back to one of the greatest prophets of Allah. It goes back to Adam (as) 😂
😂😂 facts! I should've said that haha
hey this is great farid I'm the one who first commentted for you to make a christian chanal about errors in the bible, we need to invite christian prince
Farid last guy was prima he is troll y u saying him comeback he is been destroyed by dr imran from ef dawah he changed his name now plz dont bring trolls he is same as mesihi muslim that wesam said about 😂
oh wow I saw Patristica in the chat!
Where's Sheldon Cooper??
We need him as a guest!
I offered him money to go on Hamza’s Den when he was in the comment section and he refused lol
@@NoMan-pp1jq Let him contemplate. He's a good dude
Even with lies Paul cult dies
Which platronics model???
Assalamualaikum id like to contact Wessam. Anyway to get a hold of him?
Nice
Wesam blew it off the park.
The word of Allah is equivalent to the Greek word kraymar(that's obviously not how you spell it) is any word too hard for the Lord, not the Logos
As Salaam Alaikum Farid can we have a talk about Islam because there are certain things that I just can’t seem to find an answer to and since ur quite knowledgeable about Hadith and Quran would u please help me as it is affecting my faith I have tried asking Dr Zakir Naik but he didn’t respond me …. As I have seen ur videos I am new to the channel but there are still certain questions that I have and would love to ask you
Try contacting him on Twitter and tell him you have some shubuhat and in sha'a Allah he'll help
@@assassinwithalqalam Jazak Allah
Just thpe questions here
Jesus is Lord
Jesus is a Prophet
No he isn't
@mrsaluyt that's not what He said
Does he look like the guy in your profile pic?
@@nick-apologetics He didn't say he is God 🙂
The Cyril dude knew he was in trouble so he started trolling, intresting way to run Lol. These xtians have taken their scholars as gods besides Allah like the quran says in 9:31
This isn't related to the topic, I do have a off hand question about something being Haram or Halal
Is listening to music something which if someone reverted to Islam is explicity Haram, or is it something that is in only certain circumstances? An example being hanging out listening to music vs. Having it in the beginning of ur videos.
Musical instruments are haram except duff for little children on occasions like Eid, wedding.
@ShahzadAhmad-nb6si is it a Sunnah from a Hadith or where is this from?, I'm not educated in Hadith or know the whole Quran (I don't know much Arabic so I have to use English translations to understand it.)
If @FaridResponds or someone else can answer this I would greatly appreciate it :) I have been watching Dawah videos sometimes and other Muslim Content Creators. I noticed one person when they bring up what Christians call the Holy Spirit. This person tells them in Islam that they have the Angel Gabriel. Is this correct?, sorry I don't know too many people that speak English well to understand me is why I come to ask some questions off topic 😅
@@richy11ifyHey bro, there are different opinions regarding music, but the majority forbids it because of certain hadiths and storys that the devil used music to stop people from worshipping
Narrated Abu 'Amir or Abu Malik Al-Ash'ari:
that he heard the Prophet (ﷺ) saying, "From among my followers there will be some people who will consider illegal sexual intercourse, the wearing of silk, the drinking of alcoholic drinks and the use of musical instruments, as lawful.
1.The Holy Trinity= the Father is the only source and cause for the existence of the Son and of the Spirit from eternity. The three are different but never separate in any sense, and they all share one and same all-powerful nature.
2. Christ= the Son dressed the human nature on Himself in the incarnation and became also a Son of man.
3. As saint apostle Paul explained in one of his letters the OT is simply the shadow of the Body that is Christ. There is difference in essence between the two but the shadow can also give a lot of information on the "shape" of the Body before we can finally recognize the same!
It is illogical and this was not preached by the prophets, peace be upon them, in the Old Testament, nor even in the New Testament. The Trinity is a heresy that was invented later.
Not a logical doctrine, you haven’t solved the issue l9l
"the Father is the only source and cause for the existence of the Son and of the Spirit from eternity"
If someone's existence has a cause, then that existence is an intrinsically possible one. Having a cause for your existence, after all, means having a beginning. This contradicts with your other description; of them existing since past eternity. You can't have it both ways. It also means that you depend on an external cause for your existence. So your existence is contingent. Hence, the statement of yours makes no logical sense.
It's actually a repurposed Platonic idea. Plato believed the universe to be beginninglessly eternal. The reasoning was that since God exists without a beginning, and because God is "The Maker", i.e. Creator, then there has to be a perpetually existent creation. So they said that the universe as a whole was unique in that sense: having existed since beginningless eternity alongside its Maker. They called it the monogenes ouranos; "the only begotten Heaven", referring to the beginningless existence of the created universe. The Creator preceded the created universe, not in the sense of time, but like how you precede your shadow. Meaning that you don't depend on the existence of your shadow, but your shadow does depend on yours, while you and your shadow exist simultaneously. Funnily enough, you yourself use "shadow" in your arguments, just like how the pre-Christian Greek philosophers/theologians did. These ideas were thoroughly refuted by imam Al Ghazali, over a thousand years ago, and so by extension, the same refutation applies to the Christian 'version' thereof. It's only in John's Gospel where Jesus is called "only begotten Son", and the Greek uses the same Platonic nomenclature. "Only begotten son" was also used in Greek to describe the anthropomorph offspring of deities, aside from simply describing a (literal) only child. The Yuhanan evangelist is clearly engaging with those prevalent ideas, and he just substitutes the eternal universe with the eternal existence of the Son. But it's the same basic idea. Even the reasoning remains similar. Christians always argue that because God is Love, there must've been an eternal object of affection, which would be the Son, according to them. This logic is flawed, obviously, since God is also attributed with Wrath, and you wouldn't conclude that therefor there must've also existed a beginninglessly eternal sinner.
"The three are different but never separate in any sense"
I disagree. It's logically incoherent to say that. Distinction between beings, after all, is only ever possible when plurality is already a fact. Distinction between beings necessitates multiplicity. You can't distinguish between an absolute oneness. "Between" literally means "by two each", and is defined as the place or space that separates two or more beings or concepts. Hence, the terms "between" and "oneness" are mutually contradictory. If you truly believed in the absolute oneness of God, you wouldn't be talking about differences and you'd never have to mention "three". It's actually incumbent upon you, as a Christian, to distinguish between these three.
You don't believe that Maryam gave birth to the Holy Spirit.
You can't claim that Jesus uttered the words; "This is My beloved son, with whom I am well-pleased."
And it's blasphemous for you to say that the Father died on the cross.
That suffices. That proves distinction and therefor separation. Your claim, then, is rejected. These three monikers cannot be used interchangeably. You do, and you have to, distinguish between them, and therefor, they are three distinct beings, and not one and the same, and certainly not inseparable in every possible sense. This last bit is complete nonsense, with all due respect.
Either there exists one God, or there exist two (or more).
If there exist two gods, then they're either 100% identical to one another in all possible regards, or (they're) not.
If they're 100% identical, then they're indistinguishable.
If the two are entirely indistinguishable, then they're not more than one to begin with.
Therefor it follows that if there exist two gods, that they can't be 100% identical to one another.
This would be part of our argument against polytheism, and while it isn't completed, the above is enough to prove the point. Two or three beings have to be distinguishable, and are therefor by definition separated. This is where Christians point out (to me) that the term "being" shouldn't be used. But by "being" I mean anything that or anyone who exists. That's actually the most important name of God according to you; the "I Am". And Jesus certainly was 'a human being'. To reject this term, is to effectively call each third non-existent, which you cannot do, and so you have to accept its usage and meaning. The Church was well-aware of how problematic this description was, and so it went out of its way to hide this simple truth behind confusing nomenclature, bogus terminology, and illogical similitudes. Hypostasis, triunion, essence, nature, persona, substance, etc.
From my personal discussions with Christians, I've concluded that many of them use the word "God" as a genus designation, which is very peculiar. In other words, they reduce "God" to a genus, and there's a Father species, a Son species, and a Spirit species. Like, the Father is God and the Son is God and the Spirit is God, but they are not three gods, but One (and the same) God, like how Timmy, Jane and Abdul are all Homo sapiens, or how Spot, Scratchy and Milo are all Canis familiaris. This allows you to avoid describing "God" as an actual being. After all, 'man', or 'the human being' is merely descriptive; it doesn't specify an actual individual. And 'a dog' isn't a specific individual, but can refer to any particular dog. They do this subconsciously and not intentional, but that's often what follows when engaging with them and hearing how they respond to my argument. What's a real existent being, to them, is "the Father", for example, and that's then labled as "God", and so they have three individual beings who are one and the same "God". This itself is highly problematic, but also; it doesn't solve the issue. You still have three distinct beings, and therefor, three distinct gods. Milo, Scratchy and Spot, while sharing the same binomen, are actually three distinct individual existences. You have to count them as three, by adding 1+1+1, since each 1 here represents its own unique existence. Besides, what's to prevent one from introducing additional members of this "God genus"? Why three? Why not four, or four thousand? Three is very arbitrary now.
@@XaeeD yep lol, they can’t answer, ask them of the statement ‘the father is God’ is an is of identity or predication. If they answer identity then they fall into Modalism as you said, and if they say predication, then they admit to tritheism, also if they reject the law of identity as understood to be one of the three laws of logic, then they reject classical logic and your discussion with them should end there as I don’t really see the point in trying to reason with someone who rejects one of the three most fundamental logic principles we use to rationalise and reason. And don’t even get me started on the incarnation, that’s a whole can of worms that I can’t be bothered to get into
This stream gave me some things to think about. I'm sorry I was being a little facetious to you in the previous comment section. Hopefully you'll find the way the truth and the life sooner rather than later. God bless.
He already has what is your proof for the resurrection? Doesn't the bible say if jesus as never resurrected your faith is meaningless? What's your proof for it? Pls give me that
To learn about Christianity and be genuine about it, I would go to scholars for/against the theology. In addition, check historical evidence and significance. Asking a layman is insufficient, misleading, and a trainwreck of confusion. Unfortunately, this is true for any religion. Most people don't really understand their religion.
Farid, I am very surprised you have not read the Bible... I challenge you to do it and give your own personal take. It would make for very interesting commentary and content. I love your content. Yes, I am a Christian, but that does not mean I don't appreciate intellect and other worldviews. God bless
Respect. Open to learning. Every Christian that joined seemed more familiar with the Bible that I was. Unfortunately, most didn't want to talk about Jesus.
Later Additions dont Negate, its Validity, id have to Really Disagree with Jack on Son Of Man in Mark.. even if it was Added in as a Later Work, its Still Very Valid because All Gospels Seems to consistently Use it to Identify it to Jesus, and His Divinty. and The Old Testiment, and Since He Cant Argue Against the Dead Sea scholers, Id Have to Say Jack is Over stepping, and His Opinion is Invalid on Atleast the Son Of Man part and Anybody else with that Opinion.. and also hard to Argue it was a Later addition to All Gospels, especally if it Perfectly fits the Old Testiment Narritive, Which we Know Couldnt have Been Fabricated..
Also Jack Quotes Book of Enoch which most scholers Dont consider Scripture..
The prophets of the old point to Jesus. When Jesus spoke to the Jews he use there scripture concerning him. But muslim do not care about prophecy, scripture or anything. Like a lost kid in the desert without path.
Isaiah
Virgin will concieve, Child is born, Son is given , He will be called mighty God.
Isaiah 9:6
For to us a child is born,
to us a son is given,
and the government will be on his shoulders.
And he will be called
Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
How is Jesus called the everlasting father, if according to the trinity the son is not the father, and the father is not the son?
@@Yousef-em8og
Because Jesus is one with the Father. When you see Jesus you see the Father.
Everything father does the son also do.
Everything father have created is trough the Son and the Son does nothing without the Father.
God is a spirit. Father and Son is in that spirit.
@@enockt6218the apostles were also one with the father so when are we going to add them to the trinity? Also if this was a prophecy about Jesus then it wouldn’t add the main attribute of a different person of the trinity
Deliberate mistranslation lol
It's about King Hezekiah not Jesus
There are plenty of videos and articles on this.
Furthermore Nowhere in the NT Jesus is called Everlasting Father, Wonderful Councellor , El Gibbor (Mighty God)!!
why worship God in human form???
Read the Holy Bible
Unholy Bible 😂😂
More like "Pauly Bible"
We are praying for you Farid to come to the light of the world. The one and Holy Son of God, Jesus Christ.
He doesn’t need it, alhamdullilah
No thank you, even after he refuted your religion your preaching.
@@ahmedd408
Well then he reject his only salvation he have.
Its sad that some bosnians choose idolatry
@@enockt6218Nor according to Ezekiel!
2:08:00
Faird tell wesam to stop validating this Christian’s falsehood. He had no right or authority to justify or legitimise his shirk. This is the brain rot I see from people who get too close to the misguided. His little speech to console his Christian buddy here is unacceptable to any Sunni
What the heck are you talking about? What about having personal experiences from Allaah invalidates any Sunni position? The books of the Salaf are FILLED with their narrations about signs they witnessed or miraculous events that happened to them. I never validated anything, which is why I said those experiences can't supercede logic or evidence.
@@BeyondDoubtTheology And you chose to say this (validate personal experience) off the back of the Christian’s [brief] mention of his personal experience that led him to Christianity, one can reasonably assume you doing this to be a form of defence/acceptance of his personal experience.
In reality, his experience is not from Allah or the truth since it led him to polytheism and man worship. This is unacceptable to any Sunni Muslim.
Caveat; I’m not discounting the reality of personal experiences, but not all of claimants of them are real or legit
@@idrea43 How about this, the next time I'm live, come to the panel and bring up this contention. And I will see exactly how much you know about the principles of the Sunnah or if you're just yapping in order to find something to criticize. My words were clear, no one with an ounce of husnul dhunn or charitability would ever interpret my words as me condoning the usage of dreams and experiences to justify being a Christian. I was speaking as a matter of principle and methodology that we shouldn't belittle people's experiences because it's something that we also have in our tradition. Have a good day.
@@BeyondDoubtTheology This isn’t about criticising for criticism’s sake but your timing to endorse personal experience looked sus (right after the Christian’s) and with this new trend of Muslims justifying disbelief, it was important to guarantee someone as crucial as Farid wasn’t associated with it. And this isn’t a contention since you’ve already set the record straight, I have no problem admitting my error