Hey I'm up in Canada. Just wanted to say your common honest approach on your videos and information provided is spot on. People need to watch these and more to make the process easier and better. Cheers!
I'm pretty sure they come up to 12 pounds. I just got a 2020 catalog from Ford in the mail and their kit says up to 12 pounds for about 700hp and 650tq or so. That would be my guess anyway
Exactly. You explained that correctly. Often somebody does a build and another says why would you do that? If you love your car you love car. Build it the way you want it!
@@BrenspeedEngineering yea id rather have an s197 with a gen 3 motor and t56 magnum than a brand new gt with a gen 3 motor and a shitty 18 up mt82 (dont give me that 10 speed crap some people like manuals and there is ALWAYS somebody faster so getting one only because its a few tenths faster than the other stock vs stock is pretty dumb imo)
I wouldn’t buy a S550 mustang if someone give me $1 million hands-down the best looking mustang is the S197 05-09 I wish i had the money to do this coyote swap because the 3V was trash that is True
@@rockodashpr the 3v isn't "trash" it's a pretty good engine especially for a nearly 20 year old sohc 4.6. People compare it to newer coyotes and shit on it because it isn't as good but it's much older, lower compression, lower rpm, less displacement, sohc vs dohc, less tech overall, trans isn't as good etc. Why do you think it's "trash" because that's what the internet says? Lol. Not everyone can afford 10k dollars for a coyote swap and 20k dollars for a blown coyote swap and t56 magnum. You could have a 3v doing 500 wheel for 5-6k all in reliably its all relative. You could have the engine and trans built and still have a decent amount less money in it. 3v cost alot less. The cars that have them cost less and the engine itself costs less. You cannot compare it to a newer more tech heavy and more expensive. I just get tired or people dogging on 3v. They're good engines and held their own in their day. I have an 07 gt500 with a gen3r doing 750 rwhp w stock headers on a stock fuel system with 95# injectors and twin pump boosters. I'm a 4v guy but people shit on the 3v too much imo. It's much more affordable it's all relative.
Do you have a vid on the gauge installation? Or, perhaps a tutorial on it? Definitely, part numbers and parts list on the gauges. Thanks for such awesome vids!
@@miguelcavillo437 reading comprehension? Read what he said couple times THEN respond lol. Basic reading skills are underrated lol. He was saying everyone always says 3v sounds better (than coyote) but this car (with its coyote swap) sounds pretty mean to be the "not as good a sounding engine" lol. I was paraphrasing in case you were wondering not direct quoting the op. Carry on
Ive read and heard that the t56 magnum is more like a tr6060 than it is the t56 in the 03-04 cobra and other older t56 models. The 6060 is also a badass trans and one of the big reasons i wanted a gt500 vs a coyote car (also prefer the sound and character of it...its just different lol). I think it is remote too but the aftermarket mgw shifter my car has in it was designed to make it feel like a "top loader" style like what youre talking about in the video. It must work because this is the only mustang ive had out of 8 total that had a remote mounted shifter the rest were 04 and back top loader style and i cant really tell any difference in the shift feel its very solid direct and notchy just like the t45 and tr3650 and older t5 trans i drove in my past mustangs. Never drove my gt500 with stock shifter it already had the mgw and an rst twin disc so shift feel is amazing on it. Only other 05 up car ive driven was an 11 5.0 it was a test drive didn't get to dog it real hard the salseman was with me lol...outside of that i have no experience with the remote shifters so i dont got much to base it on all i can say is the feel feels like my old transmissions i was used to prior to this. Awesome video. A magnum is a good idea in a coyote car. You can also do a built 3650 trans (5 speed) if you wanna save a little cash. Calimer does built mt82s for like 1800 which is also a good deal...but really i beleive id look for a magnum because of the top loader shifter alone not to mention its a beast of a trans. I wonder if it would be possible to swap the entire dash and gauge assembly from an 11-14 car since theyre still the same chassis and came stock with a coyote...then you could have a morw updated look that would be cool.
I would do 4.10 rear even with the blower on it with that long geared t56. That would be similar gearing (in the first 4 gears) to 331 gears on 11-17 mt82 cars.
Great build, great video on the build. Great finished product. As an interested potential customer what would a ballpark build such as this run in a 07 GT/CS. As of now i have a Kenne Bell on mine and love the power i have but want more now and feel a swap would be a better route then a rebuild with internals
Thats a very nice build Bren. My question is how do you mount the 3v power steering pump i tried using a flaming river manual rack and pinion before and i didn't like it and i had front runners on my car and it was still pretty hard to make turns. Thank you for your info.
theres a company called power by the hour that sells all the hardware and everything else needed for the coyote swap, they have the bracket youre looking for
Yes you can install in a normal 3V with a 3V computer. Just use the GPS speedo, and the monster tach which is in the video and you need a tach adapter. Thats it. THANKS
What do you think about the 5.0 aluminator engine and the 5.2l aluminator..the 5.2 has a high compression ratio I know in the old days it was ideal to run low compression high boost but in now days people consider high compression low boost applications, what's your thought for big power, forced induction what would you recommend out of the 5.0l and 5.2l aluminator
You can run 10-11 easy enough on pump gas on high compression. If you are talking high boost as in 17 psi I would do the 9.5 compression 5L aluminator.
It does not matter if the car originally was auto or manual because when we swap them we can put whatever trans in the client wants. Thanks for watching!
Because you would be getting a new control pack (computer) you can go auto or manual on an 06 GT Auto. So you would be using a 6R or 10R auto depending on which engine you get. Or you can go manual. Either way. Thanks for watching!
I have a 06 S197 convertible and did the cobra conversion to the body. Have been researching a gen 3 coyote swap but I would want to keep an automatic transmission. Have you done any with an automatic?
I have a 2007 gt mustang 4.6 with 9,372 miles on it . What would be a ballpark price to get the motor built.I have always wanted a big cam.do you have any thought
We do not rebuild engines but we sell new long blocks that we install. Here is a link to see pricing. www.brenspeed.com/05-08-mustang-engine-engine.html
Of course it can handle that power guys were making this power in early s197s before coyotes even existed. It's no different than later s197 especially once it's upgraded as good as this one is. It's just as structurally sound as a 13-14 gt500 prob way more so than a stock one since it's so nicely modified. Guys were making 800 wheel in 07-09 gt500s back then and even with the 3v platform with built motors and transmissions. You're underestimating what wheels and tires, brakes, suspension mods and chassis mods do for a car. Totally transforms it just as much as the power itself does.
I have a whipple 07, looking to do boosted 10R80 cyote swap but with a whipple or pro charger, roughly how much am I looking at ? I'll have the car shipped to you.
At least 40k - 50K. The 10R80/Gen3 coyote package with control pack are almost 20k alone. Then add fuel system, supercharger, exhaust, clutch, driveshaft, built rear..... every last little thing you need to make it sweet you get up there pretty quick.
Currently prices are up. You will get a feel after just searching your area and seeing what they are going for. Seems they are currently a few thousand more than a couple years ago up here in Indiana.
I am actually doing a swap myself, what kind of drivesshaft did you use? I am doing 015 coyote swap, 05 DS didn't fit, neither the 015 DS, will the 11-14 driveshaft will fit ?
Watch this series on a V6 swap it has around 16 videos building the car. Expect 30k and up using new parts all motor. czcams.com/play/PLyyePPaOSI83NQxEVIxiktsl_pkL_ljFe.html
Here is a link to our coyote swap section. Engine/Trans/computer starts at over 20k then you need cooling, exhaust, driveshaft, gauges, suspension, fuel system, brakes, and so on plus install. Then supercharger if you want it. We only use new not used. Here is that link www.brenspeed.com/coyote-swap.html
The 6R80 6 speed auto if you have a Gen 2 engine. 10 speed auto if you have the Gen 3 as FRPP has a control pack for the Gen 3 that uses the 10 speed auto.
If you mean 5.0 stroker 3 valve engine you can't tell. If you mean 5.0 coyote well that engine is entirely different and would look like a coyote. google some pics. THANKS
@@BrenspeedEngineering hey there thanks. The guy says it is a jdm 5 0 stroker, fully forged. I'd think jdm must have a marking on the engine somewhere ?? I know you are affiliated with jdm a bit and may know this info. Thanks again.
To answer your question we use the original 3V AC system with a bracket from power by the hour. Google them. You can power it with power from the blower motor. It has nothing to do with what control pack you have. Also as a side note dont run the gen 2 control pack with a gen 1 engine unless you install the gen 2 cams and phasers. The reason there are two control packs is mostly because of the cams, not because of the year of the short block. Thanks.
@@BrenspeedEngineering thank you for your response I appreciate the input how would I go upon like the pressure switch I am running my 3v ac compressor sorry for all the questions
Always appreciate the Saleens in the background. I’m gonna own one(hopefully)and bring it here one day 🙏🏽
Besides the GT350's they are my other favorite car.
Hey I'm up in Canada. Just wanted to say your common honest approach on your videos and information provided is spot on. People need to watch these and more to make the process easier and better. Cheers!
I appreciate that! Thanks for watching!
Love your product! That is literally my dream swap for my Black convertible 09 GT/CS!
THANKS for watching!
Same
Brenspeed=the awesomely honest tuner that not enough folks are aware of.
Happy New Year
Hey thanks for the comment!
@@BrenspeedEngineering
You are very welcome
What a awesome build, just badass, sounds so sweet, not a big fan of rag tops, but it is too sweet not to like.
Great job guys.
Thanks a bunch! Will be fun with the top down!
I wish there was more information provided on this gen 3 swap like a/c,if the gas tank was swap,PS and more
Oh man I want that set up so bad!
Man I really appreciate you showing the gauges, very cool! How much boost is that set at?
I'm pretty sure they come up to 12 pounds. I just got a 2020 catalog from Ford in the mail and their kit says up to 12 pounds for about 700hp and 650tq or so. That would be my guess anyway
Hey guys, another jaw dropping build! Amazing ! Where does the donor motor come from? Does the customer provide engines for swaps ?
Link to the engine is in the description. They are from FRPP. It is new. We provide the engines and drivetrain. THANKS
Speaks volumes to how much people love the 05-09 body style that people are willing to put this much love and money into it.
Exactly. You explained that correctly. Often somebody does a build and another says why would you do that? If you love your car you love car. Build it the way you want it!
@@BrenspeedEngineering yea id rather have an s197 with a gen 3 motor and t56 magnum than a brand new gt with a gen 3 motor and a shitty 18 up mt82 (dont give me that 10 speed crap some people like manuals and there is ALWAYS somebody faster so getting one only because its a few tenths faster than the other stock vs stock is pretty dumb imo)
@@midnight347 well said
I wouldn’t buy a S550 mustang if someone give me $1 million hands-down the best looking mustang is the S197 05-09 I wish i had the money to do this coyote swap because the 3V was trash that is True
@@rockodashpr the 3v isn't "trash" it's a pretty good engine especially for a nearly 20 year old sohc 4.6. People compare it to newer coyotes and shit on it because it isn't as good but it's much older, lower compression, lower rpm, less displacement, sohc vs dohc, less tech overall, trans isn't as good etc. Why do you think it's "trash" because that's what the internet says? Lol. Not everyone can afford 10k dollars for a coyote swap and 20k dollars for a blown coyote swap and t56 magnum. You could have a 3v doing 500 wheel for 5-6k all in reliably its all relative. You could have the engine and trans built and still have a decent amount less money in it. 3v cost alot less. The cars that have them cost less and the engine itself costs less. You cannot compare it to a newer more tech heavy and more expensive. I just get tired or people dogging on 3v. They're good engines and held their own in their day. I have an 07 gt500 with a gen3r doing 750 rwhp w stock headers on a stock fuel system with 95# injectors and twin pump boosters. I'm a 4v guy but people shit on the 3v too much imo. It's much more affordable it's all relative.
Badass build. Only downside it is a convertible but thats just me. Needs a rollback to run at a proper track.
Thanks for watching!
Do you have a vid on the gauge installation? Or, perhaps a tutorial on it? Definitely, part numbers and parts list on the gauges.
Thanks for such awesome vids!
Your content is very thorough! I’m going to be emailing you about a 07 gt coyote swap today ! Thanks man for your videos good stuff !
Thank u just don’t know how much ur appreciated.
Thanks for watching!
Great looking ride!!! Seems like it will be an amazing car!!!
I think so too!
Awesome work done by ur shop im up in Toronto Canada thinking of driving down to get some work done on an 08 roush.great video
Thanks! Bring it!
Everybody says the 3valve sounds better but this one sounded awful sweet when you laid the rubber down.
It's wasnt a 3v ita a gen 3
@@miguelcavillo437 reading comprehension? Read what he said couple times THEN respond lol. Basic reading skills are underrated lol. He was saying everyone always says 3v sounds better (than coyote) but this car (with its coyote swap) sounds pretty mean to be the "not as good a sounding engine" lol. I was paraphrasing in case you were wondering not direct quoting the op. Carry on
@@midnight347 I could also tell you to lay off the cookies and doughnut
Ive read and heard that the t56 magnum is more like a tr6060 than it is the t56 in the 03-04 cobra and other older t56 models. The 6060 is also a badass trans and one of the big reasons i wanted a gt500 vs a coyote car (also prefer the sound and character of it...its just different lol). I think it is remote too but the aftermarket mgw shifter my car has in it was designed to make it feel like a "top loader" style like what youre talking about in the video. It must work because this is the only mustang ive had out of 8 total that had a remote mounted shifter the rest were 04 and back top loader style and i cant really tell any difference in the shift feel its very solid direct and notchy just like the t45 and tr3650 and older t5 trans i drove in my past mustangs. Never drove my gt500 with stock shifter it already had the mgw and an rst twin disc so shift feel is amazing on it. Only other 05 up car ive driven was an 11 5.0 it was a test drive didn't get to dog it real hard the salseman was with me lol...outside of that i have no experience with the remote shifters so i dont got much to base it on all i can say is the feel feels like my old transmissions i was used to prior to this. Awesome video. A magnum is a good idea in a coyote car. You can also do a built 3650 trans (5 speed) if you wanna save a little cash. Calimer does built mt82s for like 1800 which is also a good deal...but really i beleive id look for a magnum because of the top loader shifter alone not to mention its a beast of a trans. I wonder if it would be possible to swap the entire dash and gauge assembly from an 11-14 car since theyre still the same chassis and came stock with a coyote...then you could have a morw updated look that would be cool.
I am in the middle of the same swap, less the super charger!
AWESOME BUILD
I would do 4.10 rear even with the blower on it with that long geared t56. That would be similar gearing (in the first 4 gears) to 331 gears on 11-17 mt82 cars.
Totally badass build . Come on Lotto Max, i want that. ..
Exactly!
Great build, great video on the build. Great finished product. As an interested potential customer what would a ballpark build such as this run in a 07 GT/CS. As of now i have a Kenne Bell on mine and love the power i have but want more now and feel a swap would be a better route then a rebuild with internals
Awesome build I want those gouges In my 09 that I am going to be building
Great thanks!
Awesome swap. I want those gauges for my 05 gt coyote swap ✊
They are cool for sure.
Thats a very nice build Bren. My question is how do you mount the 3v power steering pump i tried using a flaming river manual rack and pinion before and i didn't like it and i had front runners on my car and it was still pretty hard to make turns. Thank you for your info.
theres a company called power by the hour that sells all the hardware and everything else needed for the coyote swap, they have the bracket youre looking for
I have 07 Mustang GT convertible.. want this..
Thanks for watching!
Very nice built, it’s a lot of money invested, probably over $25K
Yep thanks for watching!
still less than an actual gen 3
Man this is awesome I wanna swap 2007 v6 mustang for a v8 4.6 engine are a coyote swap which one cheaper I got my money save up
You may like these videos. 16 of them doing on a coyote swap on a V6. czcams.com/play/PLyyePPaOSI83NQxEVIxiktsl_pkL_ljFe.html
Really like the gauges. Would they be plug and play for stock 3V electronics? Thanks for the video.
Yes you can install in a normal 3V with a 3V computer. Just use the GPS speedo, and the monster tach which is in the video and you need a tach adapter. Thats it. THANKS
@@BrenspeedEngineering Thanks Brent
Nice build! He should consider a real tire on there now
I hear that! Needs it!
Wait till he drives it and finds out he cant even get on it below 3rd gear...itll have a tire on it soon enough lol
What do you think about the 5.0 aluminator engine and the 5.2l aluminator..the 5.2 has a high compression ratio I know in the old days it was ideal to run low compression high boost but in now days people consider high compression low boost applications, what's your thought for big power, forced induction what would you recommend out of the 5.0l and 5.2l aluminator
You can run 10-11 easy enough on pump gas on high compression. If you are talking high boost as in 17 psi I would do the 9.5 compression 5L aluminator.
@@BrenspeedEngineering thanks..looks like the lower compression 5.0l suits my application..hope 2 get with you soon keep up the good work
What heat exchanger did you run?
Can you guys do this same swap but on an auto car like this ?
It does not matter if the car originally was auto or manual because when we swap them we can put whatever trans in the client wants. Thanks for watching!
Can you do a swap with an 2006 Mustang GT Automatic?
Because you would be getting a new control pack (computer) you can go auto or manual on an 06 GT Auto. So you would be using a 6R or 10R auto depending on which engine you get. Or you can go manual. Either way. Thanks for watching!
I have a 06 S197 convertible and did the cobra conversion to the body. Have been researching a gen 3 coyote swap but I would want to keep an automatic transmission. Have you done any with an automatic?
Yes here is a link to the Gen 3 with the 10 speed auto that we use. www.brenspeed.com/m-9000-pmca3.html
I have a 2007 gt mustang 4.6 with 9,372 miles on it . What would be a ballpark price to get the motor built.I have always wanted a big cam.do you have any thought
We do not rebuild engines but we sell new long blocks that we install. Here is a link to see pricing. www.brenspeed.com/05-08-mustang-engine-engine.html
Structurally can the S197 handle that power? I know you mentioned some suspension upgrades but is that enough?
Of course it can handle that power guys were making this power in early s197s before coyotes even existed. It's no different than later s197 especially once it's upgraded as good as this one is. It's just as structurally sound as a 13-14 gt500 prob way more so than a stock one since it's so nicely modified. Guys were making 800 wheel in 07-09 gt500s back then and even with the 3v platform with built motors and transmissions. You're underestimating what wheels and tires, brakes, suspension mods and chassis mods do for a car. Totally transforms it just as much as the power itself does.
I have a whipple 07, looking to do boosted 10R80 cyote swap but with a whipple or pro charger, roughly how much am I looking at ? I'll have the car shipped to you.
At least 40k - 50K. The 10R80/Gen3 coyote package with control pack are almost 20k alone. Then add fuel system, supercharger, exhaust, clutch, driveshaft, built rear..... every last little thing you need to make it sweet you get up there pretty quick.
is that a 3.7 gear ratio or 410
i want to gen3 swap my 2013 5.0
Thanks for watching
What size gauges are those?
I Live in Florida i am looking to buy a 08 mustang gt what is the average price for one of these i dont wanna overpay thanks
Currently prices are up. You will get a feel after just searching your area and seeing what they are going for. Seems they are currently a few thousand more than a couple years ago up here in Indiana.
I am actually doing a swap myself, what kind of drivesshaft did you use? I am doing 015 coyote swap, 05 DS didn't fit, neither the 015 DS, will the 11-14 driveshaft will fit ?
We used a DSS Magnum XL aluminum driveshaft and it fit perfect.
@@BrenspeedEngineering appreciate the quick reply
How much for a coyote swap ? I got a v6 4.0 mustang automatic
Watch this series on a V6 swap it has around 16 videos building the car. Expect 30k and up using new parts all motor. czcams.com/play/PLyyePPaOSI83NQxEVIxiktsl_pkL_ljFe.html
Estimated cost including labor?
Here is a link to our coyote swap section. Engine/Trans/computer starts at over 20k then you need cooling, exhaust, driveshaft, gauges, suspension, fuel system, brakes, and so on plus install. Then supercharger if you want it. We only use new not used. Here is that link www.brenspeed.com/coyote-swap.html
How much spent
Which auto would you suggest for a swap like this?
The 6R80 6 speed auto if you have a Gen 2 engine. 10 speed auto if you have the Gen 3 as FRPP has a control pack for the Gen 3 that uses the 10 speed auto.
I'm looking at a roush 07 that states it is a 5.0 swapped engine. How do I tell if it is a 5.0..? Thanks man.
If you mean 5.0 stroker 3 valve engine you can't tell. If you mean 5.0 coyote well that engine is entirely different and would look like a coyote. google some pics. THANKS
@@BrenspeedEngineering hey there thanks. The guy says it is a jdm 5 0 stroker, fully forged. I'd think jdm must have a marking on the engine somewhere ?? I know you are affiliated with jdm a bit and may know this info. Thanks again.
Hey I have a an 07 with a first gen coyote swap using a 2gen ford controls pack is there anyway you guys can my ac working?
To answer your question we use the original 3V AC system with a bracket from power by the hour. Google them. You can power it with power from the blower motor. It has nothing to do with what control pack you have. Also as a side note dont run the gen 2 control pack with a gen 1 engine unless you install the gen 2 cams and phasers. The reason there are two control packs is mostly because of the cams, not because of the year of the short block. Thanks.
@@BrenspeedEngineering thank you for your response I appreciate the input how would I go upon like the pressure switch I am running my 3v ac compressor sorry for all the questions
Where are you located? Can anybody bring thier mustang to your shop ?
Indiana and yes we build vehicles from all over the United States. quote@brenspeed.com for installation pricing. www.brenspeed.com
THANKS
Can u put that 6 speed in a 07 manual 3 v ?
Yes you can put a 6R80 in it and use this controller.
www.brenspeed.com/usq6.html
Or if you mean a 6 speed manual yes you can do that also.
Does the AC work? What’d you do to get it to work?
PBH (Power By The Hour) makes a bracket. Then you use the stock AC compressor.
@@BrenspeedEngineering i have that- mine is a gen 2 coyote into a 2008- looks like it will have to be wired direct.
Fkn nice!👊🤘
For sure!
How much did this cost like everything in total?
I have a s550 and want a gen 3 motor how much would that cost to swap them out?
40 grand
I had to guess it would have to be around 30k
Gen 3 aren't as reliable as gen 2
@@just_a5.7 Do you have a way I could contact you I need to discuss buying my next car and was interest in a charger
Sounds mid compared to a 3v though
Thanks for watching!