@@blakaxe I've been working on it for 16 months. So the first key has been consistency over a long period of time. I eat better than I did before and cook at home a majority of the time, so quality over quantity there. I also picked up running and have been pushing myself with that since last April. Generally I'm just more active than I was before by choice. I was looking to get more out of life and to do that I needed/wanted to get into better shape. Once the snowball stated rolling down the hill it accelerated and grew from there. I started feeling better and that motivated me to work/push harder. Really its just been about making good choices and holding myself accountable day to day.
@@GarethFoley Holy Moly I was actually thinking y'all got a new guy doing the videos, then I saw this comment and was like WHAT!? No WAY!? Dude, A HUMONGONOUS HIGH FIVE!!! You've been putting in a LOTTA work. I don't know you but I am seriously proud of your effort. Amazing!!!!!!
Glad it helped provide clarity. The worst part about this entire repair in regards to installing the inline fuse is identifying the wire in the splice which varies from chassis to chassis due to the electronics layout. All the wires in the splice are orange so the only thing you have to work off of is the thickness of the wire. Step 1 is finding the splice and step 2 is identifying the correct wire in the splice. It's outline in this document here: static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2022/RCRIT-22V119-8155.pdf
I love this. I've gone through a couple of recalls now with my old E90 and now an E82 but they're often super vague about what they're doing at the dealership and that usually just leaves me wanting to go back in after the work is done to see what happened. Now for this one I don't have to!
That's why we chose to do the video on this recall. I believe it's intentionally vague as to not generate too many questions or provide too much information which could be scary or too intense to the general public. Glad you were able to find the answers in this video.
As always FCP Euro stepping to the plate and informing the bmw community. Thanks!!!!! I just wonder if that fuse blows up how would you know? I am.assume won't trigger any CEL....
It probably would trigger the CEL but if not the worst that would happen would be the heater element won't work anymore, which is only likely to cause clogging of the CCV if the car is driven in cold climate for lots of short journeys. Othewise it will make no difference.
I hesitate to take my favorite car for the dealership I have here in town to do electrical recall stuff. My last vehicle that went in for a recall was my e70 for the fuel pump to prevent a fire. The person didn't do proper soldering. Then a week later, it almost caught on fire. Because of that. So I would much rather do the recall myself on my e82. I know it will be right. Thank you for the info.
Just curious, how long was your Z4 at the dealership to get the recall done? I also have the same 09 Z4 3.0 love the car but until the recall I didn't know I was living life on the edge...
@@jimmyk6336 3 hours. I think they did the wiring. If you read the recall the wiring harness is the issue giving voltage to the valve and causes the problem. I don’t think it’s the part itself just the wiring. I could be wrong…
@@cameronlaurent Thanks for the response. Getting the job done the same day is pretty good timing if you ask me. Hopefully this is the fix to end all fixes, good luck to you sir...
I followed your procedure. I don’t have a mm gauge, but the wire is basically the second largest wire out of the 6 wires. It’s located on the rubber conduit closest to the window because that feeds the driver side of the engine, I.e., angle connector, MAF, etc. thanks for the tutorial. Oh, the 6 wire harness sits inside the rubber conduit. You’ll have to pull the rubber back and find a way to hold it back to get a good cut on the wire. I used a zip tie to keep the rubber conduit back. I have a 2011 328xi auto which has the recall. I did it myself.
Awesome information, Gareth! I had BMW take care of mine recently. 2008 E82. Actually I had my car in for new Bridgestone (NON Runflats! 👌🏻) install & alignment and they did this recall at the same service visit. ?: if the inline fuse blows will it throw a code?
No code is thrown if the inline fuse fails. It shares the same power feed as the O2 sensor heater circuit. For the 7.5 amp fuse to fail the angle connector would need to suffer a failure and that's not a likely scenario. Worth checking periodically I suppose but I think it's relatively fail safe in that regard.
I had this done today on 2006 3 Series, it took under 2 hours. On repair order it said 1- Repair Kit , Wiring Harness. I was curious to see what that entailed and this video explained process very well.
I went in to clean out leaves 🍁 in x5 E70 saw a bunch of wires with connection in back of harness with zip ties! I looked down and saw a plug that looks like it was plugged into? But thanks I do have ecu code now! Same as last year that thought I fixed engine light to pass inspection in Massachusetts great info!
The dealer messed up my sulev last time. I explained to them 4 years ago almost that this was the issue. Called the bmwofNA, for nothing to get resolved, and boom today I find out about this. Guess how long my e92 baby been parked now because of this😢
No fault code is thrown if the inline fuse pops. You can check periodically if you'd like but the fuse is only there as a fail safe. It will only break the circuit if there is a problem with the angle connector itself and that's not a very likely scenario.
I live in the Caribbean and I'm thinking to disconnect the connector, the possibility of freezing is highly unlikely. Considering it's not a module that requires any form of programming I figure it should be OK to do so
This is a surprising design lapse. BMW has mostly used fully protected and diagnosable control circuits since the mid-1990s. The typical one is a low side "smart switch" with short-to-ground, short-to-bat and open detection. As part of that, over-current problems are avoided by nearly instantly shutting off the circuit. That protection is part of the "short-to-battery" detection for a low-side switch (a transistor that connects the component to ground, rather than switching the "high side" to +12V battery).
For sure a major design lapse. I'm assume the thought process was the amp draw was so low (which it is) and the likelihood of a problem ever occurring with the regulating element did not justify this added complexity. I'm pretty sure the N52 engine is the first attempt by BMW to utilize a heated system. I believe on a majority of these cars the angle connector is powered off of the same fuse which provides power to the oxygen sensor heaters.
Got it done and the dealership also broke my disa valve when removing my intake manifold. Disa valve pin got Jammed inside intake valve and needed to resurface head. Sold the car. 07 328i coupe
@@GarethFoley I'm sure that's what happened! I bought a 06 330i and seller said he just had a new starter installed. Broke the hoses and I guess broke the wires that run up one of the hoses because the wires were reconnected with a household wire nuts. Large Disa valve was broken thankfully the parts stayed in the intake. Because of youtube and FCP the car now has 240k miles and runs great. 😄
@@Joeshomegarage Oof. Wire nuts in a house make me cringe. When they're used in a car its a whole other level of bad. Great to hear you got it sorted and the car is working well! That's what it's all about.
@@GarethFoley yeah the whole car was a nightmare and a great learning experience for a Chevy guy! I loved it so much I bought another one 330xi with 158k miles. But I knew what to look for with this one. Next I think is going to be a 335 😁 love these cars!
Bought a 2009 328i Xdrive two weeks ago. On the second drive the car started overheating. The car still had the original thermostat and waterpump. Replaced both of them with OEM parts from FCP Euro. Fast forward to today and on my way home sitting at a stop light I got a wiff of smoke. I pulled over and saw a very small amount of smoke come from under the drivers side hood near the windshield. I opened the hood and didn't see anything. I drove the car home about 11 miles and when I stopped in the driveway I smelled smoke again. This time I saw it was coming from under the intake. I called our local BMW dealership and they informed me there was no fix for 22V-119 PCV Heater Recall. When I explained to them I was looking at the recall and I they list the fix in the recall notice they told me unless I had a second letter from BMW it wasn't covered. I asked her to check with a service manager first and the company attorney second if the wanted to me to continue to operate a car that had a recall that was actually smoking. After checking with the service manager they concluded that there was a fix for the car and I could bring it in the following day. This is the same dealership that told me the Takata air bag recall wasn't covered under warranty on two other of my BMW's because I wasn't the original owner. I honestly don't know if I want these clowns working on my car. I've bought half a dozen older BMW from them that they deemed beyond economical repair the last one being a 2008 760i they said the valley pan was cracked and that it needed a new motor. I bought the car for $1200 it only had 87k miles on it. I spent about $600 replacing all the coolant hoses and the two Y hoses on top the engine that were actually leaking. The car hasn't leaked a drop in two years now. They just don't want to mess with anything 5 years or older. Not to mention there labor rate now is $225 an hour.
How is all the fast forwarding loud music helping anything with the very important details of you taking everything out apart know exactly what it looks like learning how to fix that problem with the PCB heater
I got this done at bmw feb 23, and ever since my car has been making a very obnoxious whistling noise. It’ll do it once in a while once a week, idle will be a rough and rpm will fluctuate (shaking the car) There was a lot of vacuume as well when the oil cap was opened slightly but the whistling noise would then go away. Would this be due to the recall? or can this also be due maybe a broken breather hose during the replacement? also notice a screw wasn’t properly installed it’s sticking half way out too. Taking the car back to bmw tomorrow
Correct. And that is 100% our recommendation. This video is for informational purposes only to explain the nature of the problem and to show what the fix is.
I have it hooked to spades in the inline fuse holder. It's part of the testing procedure to ensure the amp draw is within spec for the angle connector.
My car (2007 X5 E70) started experiencing a misfire at idle one day after the recall repair was done. Can an engine misfire be caused by some fault during this repair? Wouldn't be the first time BMW messed up my car after a recall, in fact it's happed without fail.
I scheduled an appointment to take my 07 z4 to the my local bmw dealership after receiving the recall on the mail. Once I got the dealer they toll me I need to drop my car for 4 to 5 days. Question do they need to provide a rental or i just going to have to deal with uber charges for a week? I decided reschedule it for next week because I didn't plan on not having a car for this week.
This shop completely messed up my X3 . I did research and was saying this why was wrong, 3 years ago. I had radiator, water pump, put on still was going to overheated area. Smh.
BMW has been staggering the repairs by VIN and production code to handle the volume of cars that need to be fixed. You will be notified when your vehicle is in the "window" for the recall to be performed.
I received a letter about this maybe 6 months ago but they said they hadn't yet worked out a solution and said they would notify me when it becomes available. Not surprisingly, this is the first I am hearing that they now have a solution. They still haven't sent me the follow up letter, so should I just roll up to the dealer now? Like I don't need to wait for some letter telling me to come in? Thanks FCP Euro!
That verbiage is sort of misleading. 22V-119 is as outlined in this video which is the replacement of the angle connector from new stock + the inline fuse. Since 917K cars are part of this recall BMW chose to take care of this in stages. At most, 1% of all vehicles are potentially impacted by this. In order to prevent a massive amount of people from flooding the dealers looking to get this recall sorted at the same time BMW has staged it progressively. You will get notified when your vehicle is in the window to get the recall done. All of these cars are falling under the same procedure. The paperwork from BMW doesn't really tell owners all that much and we wanted to provide a little more context as to what the problem is and what the fix is.
@@GarethFoley I appreciate the info! On another note, my 2008 328xi was built a few months before the lifter upgrade thing. So I have the ticking exhaust lifter problem that I want to address. I heard that BMW does the job at a reduced price for the labor, but also saw that you sell the revised lifters/rockers. Do you have any info about that? I mean as far as, would a good indy do it cheaper or am I better off to go to BMW? I heard that early on they were fixing some cars for free but not sure what to believe about all that. If I choose the indy route, what other preventative things should I address? Valve cover doesn't leak but maybe swap that since nearing 100k? Any sensors to change whilst doing that as well? I heard the eccentric shaft sensor should be changed? Car has 93k miles and I am 2nd owner. It's in perfect condition. Already did the entire coolant system, water pump, mickey mouse connector etc.all bought from FCP. I als happen to live in Wallingford, CT. Thanks! So basically, I plan on keeping this car for a long time and want to address all the weak points. I have had the car for 4 years now.
@@saganworshipper6062 When it comes to the liter noise I know BMW was doing good will repairs on some cars but there was never an official recall for it since it's not a safety problem. It's really more of an annoyance. We have not done a video on this problem but it could be worth it for us to look into it. I've heard some people have diminished the noise by using a heavier oil (5W40 vs 5W30/0W30) and others have used an additive like Liqui Moly LM20004 with good effect to help cut down on lifter noise on the N52 engine. When it comes to preventative maintenance I would consider replacing the valve cover even if it's not leaking. A weak PCV diaphragm will cause oil consumption problems and some cold start weirdness from time to time. Since the PCV system is integrated primarily in the valve cove it's worth replacing just for the sanity check. While you're in there it's not a bad idea to replace the eccentric shaft sensor since its right there and there is no better time to take care of it. If you haven't done spark plugs and coils yet I would do those at the same time or close to the same time. On N52's I like to replace spark plugs ever 50K miles (half the life they are rated for) and replace all the coils at 100K miles. In the coil swap I recommend switching to Delphi coils from Bosch.
@@GarethFoleyThanks for the info! I have tried every additive under the sun...to no avail. From what I have read, it is a physical, mechanical problem that no oil will fix, and I have come to believe this is true. A video on that would be great and I could donate my car as a guinea pig since I'm only 20 minutes from you lol. I know I know, you only work on employees cars. Well, mine is available if you change your mind on that haha. I changed the coils and plugs straight away when I got the car along with replacing the manual trans fluid, both diffs, and transfer case with all OE genuine BMW fluids and everything was bought from you guys. I will go ahead and change the valve cover and the shaft sensor when I decide to do the lifter job. Funnily, I received the letter from BMW about the recall just yesterday so either I am one of the early ones or it has been sent to everyone. Either way, thanks!
Does the 1 series have these PCV? Like the 130i... My next door neighbor 120i burst into flames 2 days ago. I think they knew because they parked it a street away from their house lol. Smart i guess.
Great video. Dropped a 2011 328i at bmw on Thursday for this.. They said they did it and then the FRM failed. Vehicle has yet to leave their possession and they are trying to charge me for a new FRM and programming. Dealership in talks with corporate to try and cover expenses. Smh
Quick question my car was one of the ones that had to go into recall I had an appointment one day on a Tuesday and the day before on a Monday my car would not start after it gave out on me at the light could this somehow be related to the recall, the reason why my starter is not holding a starter able to start? I decided to take it to the BMW dealership one day early after it would not start on me. I had it towed there. They are trying to charge me roughly over $2000 for a new starter. Could this somehow be related?
I have the same questions. I had a new starter installed, car ran for about 2mos. Then, starting issues again... battery was low, and I was told it was the alternator. I'm wondering if this faulty valve is draining power from the vehicle. Did you ever find out for sure what your problem was? Afraid to go to the dealer because I'm sure they'll find something to try to rob me on. The last time I went in for a recall, mysteriously, my 02 sensors up and down lines came up reversed, vehicle could barely drive away from that dealership. It was shaking horribly. They wanted me to pay $250 for diagnostic and only God knows what outrageous repair they were going to try to force me to get, but I declined. Granted, it was rough idling some when I took it in, but when I left, it was noticeably worse. I remember the sales guy telling me this vehicle is not safe to be on the road, I can't let you leave without warning you of how dangerous this vehicle is right now. They def tried to scare me, but I was more scared of them than what might have been wrong with my vehicle. So, I took it to another mechanic who has his own BMW shop, used to work for BMW. They discovered the 02 line mixup, switched them back and my vehicle immediately started running like it was brand new. I fear these stealerships.
I have same issue my car would not start again after I drive it only after a good 5 to 8 hours it would start back had starter and the relay replaced it still have that issue
I took my 2007 Z4 in yesterday for the recall but the paperwork doesn't specifically say the heater was replaced. Does the heater device get replaced by the BMW repair?
Just curious is the updated angle connector supposed to be replaced on the same recall as the wiring fuse? I just got this recall done at the dealership and they told me it was just to replace the wiring and nothing was done as far installing an angle connector? Help!!!
I put in the vin at the BMW North America web site and this did not come up as a recall. I called the servicing dealer and asked about the PCV Heater Recall and the valve cover replacement recall and they said it was not applicable for my car. I guess I will have to inspect the wire harness to see if the PCV Heater Recall was completed.
I guess we'll know the fuse is blown when the pcv sys freezes and the engine hydrolocks with oil... seen it a few years ago with a customer car. Of course before the recall.
Ever since I had this done at BMW of Santa Monica, the car has a dip in idle at a stop and it makes a whistle noise when I press the accelerator pedal. They also didn’t put back the air box and air hose back correctly
Anyone know if this could cause a multitude of engine codes? On my 3rd bmw and all had check engine light issues, mostly all around O2, banks running lean, MAS etc. So frustrating
Is this a newer recall in addition to a previous recall because i took my 2010 328i to the dealership back in 2019 or 2020 for a recall that pretend to that element? And I'm wondering if they just changed the element part and not installed the new Wiring. Thanks
Yes. 22V-119 supersedes two previous safety recalls 17V-683 (December 2017) and 19V-273 (April 2019) respectively: 17V-683 (SIB 11 16 17): static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2017/RCRIT-17V683-0566.pdf 19V-273 (SIB 11 06 19): static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2019/RCRIT-19V273-7002.pdf The two previous recalls were limited to certain vehicles and only replaced the angle connector. 22V-119 expanded the scope of the safety recall and also added the inline fuse + replacement of the angle connector.
What if im getting a lean code because of my PCV, ive replaced all four 02 sensors, fuel injectors, done a smoke test for vacume leaks and have led it to the PCV. Will they cover it
Do you know exactly WHAT the "software" update recall is on new 2024 X5 BMWs? I paid for my new car 7/11/23 and 2 days later they called to say they would NOT be releasing my new car until the software has been finalized and released. Kind of funny I buy a luxury new car and can't drive it.
the same in my case, mine e60 almost caught fire because of this! I don't bother to call the dealer as they been useless in the past. Unsure how many cars is fitted with this lovely feature lol
Due to the size of this recall I don't see it being readily available as a retail part in the immediate future. Usually when parts are being used as a part of a massive safety campaign their availability at the retail level is slim to none as the demand is huge and there is only so much supply.
If you neglect having this done because you don't want someone rooting around in your engine bay, possibly breaking other things, wasting your time, will BMW reimburse you in the event your E91 burns to a crisp? Asking for a friend.
Wow Gareth, you've lost a lot of weight - good for you, you must be working really hard at it!
Thank you! Been working on it for almost 16 months at this point.
@@GarethFoley what did you do? Please share with the community
@@blakaxe I've been working on it for 16 months. So the first key has been consistency over a long period of time. I eat better than I did before and cook at home a majority of the time, so quality over quantity there. I also picked up running and have been pushing myself with that since last April. Generally I'm just more active than I was before by choice. I was looking to get more out of life and to do that I needed/wanted to get into better shape. Once the snowball stated rolling down the hill it accelerated and grew from there. I started feeling better and that motivated me to work/push harder. Really its just been about making good choices and holding myself accountable day to day.
@@GarethFoley Holy Moly I was actually thinking y'all got a new guy doing the videos, then I saw this comment and was like WHAT!? No WAY!?
Dude, A HUMONGONOUS HIGH FIVE!!! You've been putting in a LOTTA work. I don't know you but I am seriously proud of your effort.
Amazing!!!!!!
@@GarethFoley gully do look good...in a manly sorta way. Glad that's what you were doing. I was afraid you might be ill. Glad that's not the case.
Thank you immensely, there was so much confusion on what was exactly done, especially where the fuse was being placed.
Glad it helped provide clarity. The worst part about this entire repair in regards to installing the inline fuse is identifying the wire in the splice which varies from chassis to chassis due to the electronics layout. All the wires in the splice are orange so the only thing you have to work off of is the thickness of the wire. Step 1 is finding the splice and step 2 is identifying the correct wire in the splice. It's outline in this document here:
static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2022/RCRIT-22V119-8155.pdf
I love this. I've gone through a couple of recalls now with my old E90 and now an E82 but they're often super vague about what they're doing at the dealership and that usually just leaves me wanting to go back in after the work is done to see what happened. Now for this one I don't have to!
That's why we chose to do the video on this recall. I believe it's intentionally vague as to not generate too many questions or provide too much information which could be scary or too intense to the general public. Glad you were able to find the answers in this video.
As always FCP Euro stepping to the plate and informing the bmw community. Thanks!!!!!
I just wonder if that fuse blows up how would you know? I am.assume won't trigger any CEL....
It probably would trigger the CEL but if not the worst that would happen would be the heater element won't work anymore, which is only likely to cause clogging of the CCV if the car is driven in cold climate for lots of short journeys. Othewise it will make no difference.
I hesitate to take my favorite car for the dealership I have here in town to do electrical recall stuff. My last vehicle that went in for a recall was my e70 for the fuel pump to prevent a fire. The person didn't do proper soldering. Then a week later, it almost caught on fire. Because of that. So I would much rather do the recall myself on my e82. I know it will be right. Thank you for the info.
I agree, everytime I ever took my car to a mechanic, they always cause a problem, I don't trust mechanics at all, I trust myself.
I took my 2009 Z4 with the N52 into BMW today to get the recall done. Great video to see what they are doing to it!
Had my 2007 Z4 repaired yesterday at BMW. On yours did they replace the heater device itself or just the wiring fix?
Just curious, how long was your Z4 at the dealership to get the recall done?
I also have the same 09 Z4 3.0 love the car but until the recall I didn't know I was living life on the edge...
@@CrazyOneToo I think they just did the wiring harness from what I get from the invoice.
@@jimmyk6336 3 hours. I think they did the wiring. If you read the recall the wiring harness is the issue giving voltage to the valve and causes the problem. I don’t think it’s the part itself just the wiring. I could be wrong…
@@cameronlaurent Thanks for the response. Getting the job done the same day is pretty good timing if you ask me. Hopefully this is the fix to end all fixes, good luck to you sir...
I bought a e91 with an n52 engine last year and it didn't have this recall service done. I had it done as soon as possible. Glad I did!
Excellent. Glad to hear you got it sorted.
I followed your procedure. I don’t have a mm gauge, but the wire is basically the second largest wire out of the 6 wires. It’s located on the rubber conduit closest to the window because that feeds the driver side of the engine, I.e., angle connector, MAF, etc.
thanks for the tutorial. Oh, the 6 wire harness sits inside the rubber conduit. You’ll have to pull the rubber back and find a way to hold it back to get a good cut on the wire. I used a zip tie to keep the rubber conduit back. I have a 2011 328xi auto which has the recall. I did it myself.
You've lost a lot of weight..you look great my man
Thank you! Feeling great.
Holy shit Gareth I couldn’t believe it was even you. That threw me off for a second. Looking great man keep it up!
Awesome information, Gareth!
I had BMW take care of mine recently. 2008 E82.
Actually I had my car in for new Bridgestone (NON Runflats! 👌🏻) install & alignment and they did this recall at the same service visit.
?: if the inline fuse blows will it throw a code?
No code is thrown if the inline fuse fails. It shares the same power feed as the O2 sensor heater circuit. For the 7.5 amp fuse to fail the angle connector would need to suffer a failure and that's not a likely scenario. Worth checking periodically I suppose but I think it's relatively fail safe in that regard.
Even though I don't have a BMW, I still enjoyed this
I had this done today on 2006 3 Series, it took under 2 hours. On repair order it said 1- Repair Kit , Wiring Harness. I was curious to see what that entailed and this video explained process very well.
Happy to be able to shed some light on that. Glad you got it done!
Thank you so so much. I’m calling the dealer tomorrow for this recall re my e89. You guys are the best.
I went in to clean out leaves 🍁 in x5 E70 saw a bunch of wires with connection in back of harness with zip ties! I looked down and saw a plug that looks like it was plugged into? But thanks I do have ecu code now! Same as last year that thought I fixed engine light to pass inspection in Massachusetts great info!
Great video! Very professional work! After I saw what kind of work is involved I don't think I let anybody touch my electrical stuff. 😮😮
great video....thank you. I'm taking my 2011 E92 to the dealer on Thur to get it done.
The dealer messed up my sulev last time. I explained to them 4 years ago almost that this was the issue. Called the bmwofNA, for nothing to get resolved, and boom today I find out about this. Guess how long my e92 baby been parked now because of this😢
This is a great video. There is a somewhat recent N57 recall for the EGR system, would love to see a video on that one.
That's a big one. Could be a possibility.
Thanks. Didn’t know the additional fuse was part of the recall. Getting it done next week.
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You have the exact same car as me ! 328! 2011 coupe ! Beautiful car im glad im getting this recall done , i had no idea
Just had this done. I see the inline fuse that they added. Thanks for the info!
Should I ckeck periodically if the fuse is blown or it will show a ckeck eng light on the dashboard?
As always, great work and thanks for sharing.
No fault code is thrown if the inline fuse pops. You can check periodically if you'd like but the fuse is only there as a fail safe. It will only break the circuit if there is a problem with the angle connector itself and that's not a very likely scenario.
@@GarethFoley Thanks mate, very appreciated
Epic weight loss Gareth!! Hell yeah!
Thank you! 💪
i called up my dealership about this after owning the car for 1 week and they took it in no questions.
Awesome. Glad to hear you got it sorted.
I live in the Caribbean and I'm thinking to disconnect the connector, the possibility of freezing is highly unlikely. Considering it's not a module that requires any form of programming I figure it should be OK to do so
This is a surprising design lapse. BMW has mostly used fully protected and diagnosable control circuits since the mid-1990s. The typical one is a low side "smart switch" with short-to-ground, short-to-bat and open detection. As part of that, over-current problems are avoided by nearly instantly shutting off the circuit. That protection is part of the "short-to-battery" detection for a low-side switch (a transistor that connects the component to ground, rather than switching the "high side" to +12V battery).
For sure a major design lapse. I'm assume the thought process was the amp draw was so low (which it is) and the likelihood of a problem ever occurring with the regulating element did not justify this added complexity. I'm pretty sure the N52 engine is the first attempt by BMW to utilize a heated system. I believe on a majority of these cars the angle connector is powered off of the same fuse which provides power to the oxygen sensor heaters.
@GarethFoley any way to bypass it and put a catch can? Oil getting to the Disa valves which makes them fail is another design flaw.
Got it done and the dealership also broke my disa valve when removing my intake manifold. Disa valve pin got Jammed inside intake valve and needed to resurface head. Sold the car. 07 328i coupe
Strange. There is no need to remove the intake manifold to do this (unless they broke the vent hose taking it off the angle connector).
@@GarethFoley I'm sure that's what happened! I bought a 06 330i and seller said he just had a new starter installed. Broke the hoses and I guess broke the wires that run up one of the hoses because the wires were reconnected with a household wire nuts. Large Disa valve was broken thankfully the parts stayed in the intake. Because of youtube and FCP the car now has 240k miles and runs great. 😄
@@Joeshomegarage Oof. Wire nuts in a house make me cringe. When they're used in a car its a whole other level of bad. Great to hear you got it sorted and the car is working well! That's what it's all about.
@@GarethFoley yeah the whole car was a nightmare and a great learning experience for a Chevy guy! I loved it so much I bought another one 330xi with 158k miles. But I knew what to look for with this one. Next I think is going to be a 335 😁 love these cars!
In that case do they have to pay for what they broke, or shouldn't they have to at least fix it for free because that's literally their fault
Can i just install it next to the connector near the manifold?
LOL I just had this done yesterday...for the second time!
Fortunately, you're all set now. The inline fuse should have been part of the original fix.
Bought a 2009 328i Xdrive two weeks ago. On the second drive the car started overheating. The car still had the original thermostat and waterpump. Replaced both of them with OEM parts from FCP Euro. Fast forward to today and on my way home sitting at a stop light I got a wiff of smoke. I pulled over and saw a very small amount of smoke come from under the drivers side hood near the windshield. I opened the hood and didn't see anything. I drove the car home about 11 miles and when I stopped in the driveway I smelled smoke again. This time I saw it was coming from under the intake. I called our local BMW dealership and they informed me there was no fix for 22V-119 PCV Heater Recall. When I explained to them I was looking at the recall and I they list the fix in the recall notice they told me unless I had a second letter from BMW it wasn't covered. I asked her to check with a service manager first and the company attorney second if the wanted to me to continue to operate a car that had a recall that was actually smoking. After checking with the service manager they concluded that there was a fix for the car and I could bring it in the following day. This is the same dealership that told me the Takata air bag recall wasn't covered under warranty on two other of my BMW's because I wasn't the original owner. I honestly don't know if I want these clowns working on my car. I've bought half a dozen older BMW from them that they deemed beyond economical repair the last one being a 2008 760i they said the valley pan was cracked and that it needed a new motor. I bought the car for $1200 it only had 87k miles on it. I spent about $600 replacing all the coolant hoses and the two Y hoses on top the engine that were actually leaking. The car hasn't leaked a drop in two years now. They just don't want to mess with anything 5 years or older. Not to mention there labor rate now is $225 an hour.
They have a recall for the recall now. Do we need to do that again?
How is all the fast forwarding loud music helping anything with the very important details of you taking everything out apart know exactly what it looks like learning how to fix that problem with the PCB heater
Thank you !!
You're welcome!
I got this done at bmw feb 23, and ever since my car has been making a very obnoxious whistling noise. It’ll do it once in a while once a week, idle will be a rough and rpm will fluctuate (shaking the car) There was a lot of vacuume as well when the oil cap was opened slightly but the whistling noise would then go away. Would this be due to the recall? or can this also be due maybe a broken breather hose during the replacement? also notice a screw wasn’t properly installed it’s sticking half way out too. Taking the car back to bmw tomorrow
Broken breather hose, right? Bmw has some micky mouse technicians.
Taking my e90 for this next week
Very awesome video! Thank you!
If it's a recall, it has to be repaired by a dealer,as this is the only way to have it officially recorded by the relevant agency
Correct. And that is 100% our recommendation. This video is for informational purposes only to explain the nature of the problem and to show what the fix is.
Can this cause ridiculous amount of white smoke to exit out of exhaust
Thanks for the video. Question. Where is the multimeter hooked to for the current draw test?
I have it hooked to spades in the inline fuse holder. It's part of the testing procedure to ensure the amp draw is within spec for the angle connector.
My car (2007 X5 E70) started experiencing a misfire at idle one day after the recall repair was done. Can an engine misfire be caused by some fault during this repair? Wouldn't be the first time BMW messed up my car after a recall, in fact it's happed without fail.
I scheduled an appointment to take my 07 z4 to the my local bmw dealership after receiving the recall on the mail.
Once I got the dealer they toll me I need to drop my car for 4 to 5 days.
Question do they need to provide a rental or i just going to have to deal with uber charges for a week?
I decided reschedule it for next week because I didn't plan on not having a car for this week.
Any updates? Did they supply you with a rental car till your car was ready?
Mines booked in for next week.
I've had a DPF removal and remap.
Take it this is just a manual replacement of parts, nothing else will.be changed?
This shop completely messed up my X3 . I did research and was saying this why was wrong, 3 years ago. I had radiator, water pump, put on still was going to overheated area. Smh.
Just had the dealer do this on my 2010 528i. They did not mention the spliced in harness and fuse to me? I need to see if the harness was installed. 🤞
Thanks ! I wanna do this to my N52 now 😂🔥🔥🔥
I have x5 3.0 and started smoking. Can I disconnect wire(power to the elbow) and drive it as is for few km to the shop?
Great video thanks for this
Will BMW still take my car in for the recall even if I have LCI halogens on my pre LCI e90??
I know they can be weird about those things sometimes
Anytime I’ve gone to BMW they’ve said the part isn’t available. So how do I get it fixed?
BMW has been staggering the repairs by VIN and production code to handle the volume of cars that need to be fixed. You will be notified when your vehicle is in the "window" for the recall to be performed.
Great video 👍🏻
I received a letter about this maybe 6 months ago but they said they hadn't yet worked out a solution and said they would notify me when it becomes available. Not surprisingly, this is the first I am hearing that they now have a solution. They still haven't sent me the follow up letter, so should I just roll up to the dealer now? Like I don't need to wait for some letter telling me to come in?
Thanks FCP Euro!
That verbiage is sort of misleading. 22V-119 is as outlined in this video which is the replacement of the angle connector from new stock + the inline fuse. Since 917K cars are part of this recall BMW chose to take care of this in stages. At most, 1% of all vehicles are potentially impacted by this. In order to prevent a massive amount of people from flooding the dealers looking to get this recall sorted at the same time BMW has staged it progressively.
You will get notified when your vehicle is in the window to get the recall done. All of these cars are falling under the same procedure. The paperwork from BMW doesn't really tell owners all that much and we wanted to provide a little more context as to what the problem is and what the fix is.
@@GarethFoley I appreciate the info! On another note, my 2008 328xi was built a few months before the lifter upgrade thing. So I have the ticking exhaust lifter problem that I want to address. I heard that BMW does the job at a reduced price for the labor, but also saw that you sell the revised lifters/rockers. Do you have any info about that? I mean as far as, would a good indy do it cheaper or am I better off to go to BMW? I heard that early on they were fixing some cars for free but not sure what to believe about all that. If I choose the indy route, what other preventative things should I address? Valve cover doesn't leak but maybe swap that since nearing 100k? Any sensors to change whilst doing that as well? I heard the eccentric shaft sensor should be changed? Car has 93k miles and I am 2nd owner. It's in perfect condition. Already did the entire coolant system, water pump, mickey mouse connector etc.all bought from FCP. I als happen to live in Wallingford, CT. Thanks! So basically, I plan on keeping this car for a long time and want to address all the weak points. I have had the car for 4 years now.
@@saganworshipper6062 When it comes to the liter noise I know BMW was doing good will repairs on some cars but there was never an official recall for it since it's not a safety problem. It's really more of an annoyance. We have not done a video on this problem but it could be worth it for us to look into it. I've heard some people have diminished the noise by using a heavier oil (5W40 vs 5W30/0W30) and others have used an additive like Liqui Moly LM20004 with good effect to help cut down on lifter noise on the N52 engine.
When it comes to preventative maintenance I would consider replacing the valve cover even if it's not leaking. A weak PCV diaphragm will cause oil consumption problems and some cold start weirdness from time to time. Since the PCV system is integrated primarily in the valve cove it's worth replacing just for the sanity check. While you're in there it's not a bad idea to replace the eccentric shaft sensor since its right there and there is no better time to take care of it.
If you haven't done spark plugs and coils yet I would do those at the same time or close to the same time. On N52's I like to replace spark plugs ever 50K miles (half the life they are rated for) and replace all the coils at 100K miles. In the coil swap I recommend switching to Delphi coils from Bosch.
@@GarethFoleyThanks for the info! I have tried every additive under the sun...to no avail. From what I have read, it is a physical, mechanical problem that no oil will fix, and I have come to believe this is true. A video on that would be great and I could donate my car as a guinea pig since I'm only 20 minutes from you lol. I know I know, you only work on employees cars. Well, mine is available if you change your mind on that haha. I changed the coils and plugs straight away when I got the car along with replacing the manual trans fluid, both diffs, and transfer case with all OE genuine BMW fluids and everything was bought from you guys. I will go ahead and change the valve cover and the shaft sensor when I decide to do the lifter job. Funnily, I received the letter from BMW about the recall just yesterday so either I am one of the early ones or it has been sent to everyone. Either way, thanks!
Does the 1 series have these PCV? Like the 130i... My next door neighbor 120i burst into flames 2 days ago. I think they knew because they parked it a street away from their house lol. Smart i guess.
Great video. Dropped a 2011 328i at bmw on Thursday for this.. They said they did it and then the FRM failed. Vehicle has yet to leave their possession and they are trying to charge me for a new FRM and programming. Dealership in talks with corporate to try and cover expenses. Smh
Dude awful. Any resolution?
Is the angle connector included in the recall? They never replaced mine and its blown. The fuse they installed was blown by the time I checked,
Quick question my car was one of the ones that had to go into recall I had an appointment one day on a Tuesday and the day before on a Monday my car would not start after it gave out on me at the light could this somehow be related to the recall, the reason why my starter is not holding a starter able to start? I decided to take it to the BMW dealership one day early after it would not start on me. I had it towed there. They are trying to charge me roughly over $2000 for a new starter. Could this somehow be related?
I have the same questions. I had a new starter installed, car ran for about 2mos. Then, starting issues again... battery was low, and I was told it was the alternator. I'm wondering if this faulty valve is draining power from the vehicle. Did you ever find out for sure what your problem was? Afraid to go to the dealer because I'm sure they'll find something to try to rob me on. The last time I went in for a recall, mysteriously, my 02 sensors up and down lines came up reversed, vehicle could barely drive away from that dealership. It was shaking horribly. They wanted me to pay $250 for diagnostic and only God knows what outrageous repair they were going to try to force me to get, but I declined. Granted, it was rough idling some when I took it in, but when I left, it was noticeably worse. I remember the sales guy telling me this vehicle is not safe to be on the road, I can't let you leave without warning you of how dangerous this vehicle is right now. They def tried to scare me, but I was more scared of them than what might have been wrong with my vehicle. So, I took it to another mechanic who has his own BMW shop, used to work for BMW. They discovered the 02 line mixup, switched them back and my vehicle immediately started running like it was brand new. I fear these stealerships.
I have same issue my car would not start again after I drive it only after a good 5 to 8 hours it would start back had starter and the relay replaced it still have that issue
I took my 2007 Z4 in yesterday for the recall but the paperwork doesn't specifically say the heater was replaced. Does the heater device get replaced by the BMW repair?
How long does this recall repair take at dealership?
If the tell is done, will pcv system still smell like burning plastic? Mine does
Just curious is the updated angle connector supposed to be replaced on the same recall as the wiring fuse? I just got this recall done at the dealership and they told me it was just to replace the wiring and nothing was done as far installing an angle connector? Help!!!
How could I determine if the recall has been completed? I bought a used BMW 2011 328i X drive with the N52 motor, it's a sedan model.
I put in the vin at the BMW North America web site and this did not come up as a recall. I called the servicing dealer and asked about the PCV Heater Recall and the valve cover replacement recall and they said it was not applicable for my car. I guess I will have to inspect the wire harness to see if the PCV Heater Recall was completed.
I had this done and afterward my exhaust started to smell like gas or starter fluid? Anyone know what coulr they have done wrong?
My dealer says that the PCV valve heater will be replaced only if it has been damaged. Is it right?
No
Damaged or not they have to replace it
Can I replace my ccv by taking off just the alternator instead of the manifold
I worked on vehicles for 32 years but I chose to have my 2010 328i XDrive BMW towed to a BMW dealer to fix the recall themselves.
how long would you say it takes?
I guess we'll know the fuse is blown when the pcv sys freezes and the engine hydrolocks with oil... seen it a few years ago with a customer car. Of course before the recall.
That's a crazy cascade effect. How was power originally cut to the angle connector where it wasn't heating?
Ever since I had this done at BMW of Santa Monica, the car has a dip in idle at a stop and it makes a whistle noise when I press the accelerator pedal. They also didn’t put back the air box and air hose back correctly
they broke breather hose when replacing
Like the videos but please change the music. It’s that annoying music during the speed-ups. Thanks.
Are the N53's safe from this?
Does this include the X3 F25 N52?
My 2007 e92 335i caught fire in my driveway Lucky I was home total loss of the car tho mine was the blower motor wiring
Sorry to hear that 😢
Anyone know if this could cause a multitude of engine codes? On my 3rd bmw and all had check engine light issues, mostly all around O2, banks running lean, MAS etc. So frustrating
Got my letter today
Is this a newer recall in addition to a previous recall because i took my 2010 328i to the dealership back in 2019 or 2020 for a recall that pretend to that element? And I'm wondering if they just changed the element part and not installed the new Wiring. Thanks
Yes. 22V-119 supersedes two previous safety recalls 17V-683 (December 2017) and 19V-273 (April 2019) respectively:
17V-683 (SIB 11 16 17):
static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2017/RCRIT-17V683-0566.pdf
19V-273 (SIB 11 06 19):
static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2019/RCRIT-19V273-7002.pdf
The two previous recalls were limited to certain vehicles and only replaced the angle connector. 22V-119 expanded the scope of the safety recall and also added the inline fuse + replacement of the angle connector.
What if we are outside the US?
Not sure how this is being handled outside of the United States.
What if im getting a lean code because of my PCV, ive replaced all four 02 sensors, fuel injectors, done a smoke test for vacume leaks and have led it to the PCV. Will they cover it
Did you ever find out if they covered for the PCV valve repair?
Do you know exactly WHAT the "software" update recall is on new 2024 X5 BMWs? I paid for my new car 7/11/23 and 2 days later they called to say they would NOT be releasing my new car until the software has been finalized and released. Kind of funny I buy a luxury new car and can't drive it.
Curious to know if this was also applicable to UK as I checked my 2009 e60 on the Government website, which stated all recalls had been done!
the same in my case, mine e60 almost caught fire because of this! I don't bother to call the dealer as they been useless in the past. Unsure how many cars is fitted with this lovely feature lol
Any idea on when the angle connector will have any(better?) availability?
Due to the size of this recall I don't see it being readily available as a retail part in the immediate future. Usually when parts are being used as a part of a massive safety campaign their availability at the retail level is slim to none as the demand is huge and there is only so much supply.
I was told about this recall last March & when I checked in Nov parts still weren’t available
Is this also for the N54 engines?
No
14:17 & 14:54 **installed correctly** sounds like you’re saying incorrectly.
Thank you kindly for the note, we will let Gareth know.
Holy crap did this guy lose wieght ? He looks so different !!!! :O
Just a little bit 🤏😂
Feeling great and that's what it's all about.
bro you doing alright?
Doing awesome.
❤️👍
My dealer states a 6 hour job for this recall.
If you neglect having this done because you don't want someone rooting around in your engine bay, possibly breaking other things, wasting your time, will BMW reimburse you in the event your E91 burns to a crisp? Asking for a friend.
Same 😅
e83 is the worst recsll to do.
What makes is the worst? Location of the splice you have to tap into for the retrofit harness?
Move your hands out the way!!!! Dude sitting here with his hands up all in the way can’t see anything and the cameraman falling asleep !!!
I'm happy to see my e90 burn to an unrecognizable crisp.
Thank you!!!