Turbocharged Jimny v 1980s legend: DRAG RACE
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- čas přidán 9. 10. 2023
- Thanks to everyone who lent us their cars for this race:
- Twisted Jimny: / twisted_automotive
- 205 GTI: / dneventsofficial
It’s time to see if a Suzuki Jimny can take down an 80s legend - the Peugeot 205 GTI!
However, this isn’t just a simple Jimny v 205 GTI drag race. You see, along with Mat’s own Jimny, we have also been lent Twisted Automotive’s turbocharged Jimny!
So let’s see how the three compare. Starting with the regular Jimny, it’s powered by a 1.5-litre 4-cylinder engine that can produce 101hp and 130Nm of torque. It weighs in at 1,035kg, it’s equipped with a 5-speed manual gearbox, and when new it costs around £20,000. In this instance, we’ll be using rear-wheel drive only.
Alongside it, we have the Twisted Jimny. It has the same 1.5-litre 4-cylinder as the stock Jimny, but thanks to the addition of the turbo, it can produce 165hp and 195Nm! However that’s not all that’s changed - there are a number of other upgrades including a lift kit, uprated suspension and uprated dampers. What’s more, the interior now comes plastered in leather and Alcantara to make it feel like a mini G63! But all of these upgrades come at a cost, with this particular Jimny rolling up with a £60,000 price tag!!
Then finally we have the mini hot hatch hero, the Peugeot 205 GTI. It packs a 1.9-litre turbo that can deliver 122hp and 161Nm. Power is sent to the front wheels via a 5-speed manual gearbox, and it tips the scales at just 860kg. In 2023, this car's valued at around £25,000.
So will the turbocharged Jimny snatch the win? Or could the '80s legend clinch it? There’s only one way to find out… LET’S RACE!
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205gti is only 7.1s slower than chiron. Amazing car
When you put it like that it's great value for money
@@shanginadildoNo it's not
@@caidee Oooh you're hard
@@caidee It is for sure...
@@shanginadildo Always 😏
Matt nearly money shifted on the first run 😂 Did you notice the reverse light flicker 😮
Bounced off reverse 😂😂😂
😂Dude
@@paulchambers6657Hahaha!😅
😂Hes gone and double clutched it after the initial 'Gate refusal' and the gearbox has just about stayed out of reverse even with the Reverse light switch activated at a decent old speed hahaha. Thus is proof Matt hasnt got a clue how to drive a manual. Its a good job Suzuki have done their R&D on that drivetrain becuase i recently saw two vids of someone finding reverse in a newer porsche 911 with the manual and BMW with a manual managing to blow the entire gearbag clean out the things with high speed reverse money shift. BTW i know exactly what hes did done i know that gearbox and its bigger brother thats the old proper 5 speed Grand Vitara and Toyota LC and Isuzu 4x4s. It doesnt like being pushed sideways to find a gear, its a stirry box so if you are quick shifting in it you need to go diagonal direction and not force it sideways then up or down like a forced shift that you rely on the gate to snick the gear home. Hes been ramming it the wrong way and its locked him out.
@7:42 Well spotted!
16:50 that 205 downshift engine brake was awsome
Yep. Kinda reminded me a lot to 205 T16 Evo2.
"You'll always win, if you race yourself won't cha" is quote of the decade.
It's a profound statement!😅
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 i died
The question in the 70's was'do you race it'?
The answer was 'yes and I beat it too'!!!! Lol.
Sam is absolutely amazing with manual cars his gear shifting is so smooth🥵
Sam always nailed those.
Racing driver sam
Sam is the star in this show.
He probably has exprience with shafts
For real, the editors are the MVPs, they deliver each upload 😂
The editors received a big MVP for that.
@UCKydJIsV5EobL9FfkwZdV-g NO you bastard😁 you don't have any surprise packages but a lie
Rented a 1.9 205 GTi for a weekend in the late 80s and drove it some distance including a stretch of very winding road, what a blast. Will never forget that experience.
205 GTi 1.9L has 165bhp.
@@purwantiallan5089and probably weighs less then a ton? I'd say that's a proper go kart. It's something like the GR Yaris of the 80s.
@@purwantiallan5089 nope 130
@@purwantiallan5089no it doent. Why do you spam this channel with wrong info? the 205 never came with a 16v engine it was a 1.6 or 1.9 8v at very most 130bhp, even if you swapped them to carbs the twin webbers they got about 144bhp. The 16v engine that had 155-160bhp was from the 405 it was called the Mi16 engine and a lot of people grabbed them out of bashed and scrap 405s and put them in the 205s as they slotted right in minimal fuss next to no welding all aftermarket engine mounts etc so became a popular upgrade on them. Not one 1.6 or 1.9 variant of 205 was ever fitted with the Mi16 160bhp lump so quit talking tripe man.
@@joshuaminke6629if you were lucky the 1.9 done 128 on a dyno. Was 123-125 usually. These kids on here talking tripe quoting the Mi16 or 2.0 Gti6 16v engine bhp figures. Even the Mi16 i had in my 205 (originaly from a crashed 405 Mi16) was 150bhp on the dyno back then i remeber it because it was barely more than my Astra GTE 16v which was showing 140bhp.
Sam was certainly giving the engine braking a work out when he did the brake test.👍
He always wins the brake test in a manual car, he abuses the engine braking haha
You should do a drag race with all GTI's Peugeot has ever produced, such as 205 GTI, 206 GTI/RC, 306 GTI, 309 GTI and maybe also the 208 and 308 GTI but it would be lovely to see the GTI of the 80's and 90's race together
Don't forget the 106 GTi
Throw in the CTI for good measure too...
1.9 GTI was always 8 valves, never 16 valves. Many dropped in the engine from the 309 GTI 16V, or 405MI16
100% older non CAT 1.9,s where 130 BHP newer versions strangled somewhat
Many 405Mi16 and BX GTI 16v had their engines removed to put in 205 rally cars
@@chrisattwood8701 I have 7 mi16 engines in my shed, with ecu's and looms haha. I'm a hoarder :D
Exactly, I still got the non Cat Version which was beefier then the 122 BHP Version. An Quaife Torsen Diff does also avoid the unnecessary wheel spin.
The did a 16v 309 just wasn't available in the uk@@baldrick1905
a 205 gti never fails to look good 👏
@@FYMASMD look at your face.
Peugeot 205 GTi imo only have 200bhp.
That's ugly! How do you see it looking good, are you its mother?
True. Looks very good.
Looks trash
Race we didn't know we wanted ,but we all enjoy 😊
Hell yes. But it should've been a drag race between Nissan 300ZX, Peugeot 206, and Toyota GR86 RACING 2013.
200 Kg is a *lot* in those power ranges.
Also, regarding that last activity, Matt seems to have forgotten what the 205 was actually famous for. :)
Yes, but 40hp difference is a lot too.
you mean, running out of talent and blatting across a field?
Sam himself is such a gem for the channel, but so is Nick. Never stop being awesome guys (Mat is quite acceptable yes indeed as well)
:)
The manual gearbox destroyers need to find another job. Not in the car industry.
Those 205 wheels are still gorgeous !
This is slowly turning into a comedy show , I love it
Me too. This is absolutely insane.
Hahaha. It is insane.😅
Always has been
£60,000 for a Jimny is insane. Think of the old school Defender you could have for that money.
Could have a brand new defender
@@shanginadildo very true
could buy a f150 raptor even
I can’t believe anyone would spend £60k on one. A fool and their money are easily split and all that but you’d have to have negative IQ to buy that.
@@yoshi555kingnot in the UK
The 16valve engine wasn't actually available in the 205, it was in the 405 mi16, of which sadly many were pillaged for the engine and then scrapped to put the engine into a 205. The 405mi16 is a much rarer car than the 205 gti because of that.
Love to see a Peugeot 205 GTI, Ford MR2, and Renault 5 GT Turbo race... Thing of my childhood dreams...
Ford MR2?? Do you mean Toyota MR2.
Polo G40, Fiat Uno Turbo ie etc...! 😁😍
@@MIK23458 Ford XR2
@@rickster9065 ah right. 👍
Opel Kadett GSi
Did Matt go into reverse for a second at 7:48?
😂tried too. Double clutched it too, near abouts overuled the original "gate refusal" and got far enough into the reverse lockout that the reverse light came on hahaha. Its a good job Suzuki made a proper drivetrain as ive seen a lot of modern cars money shift a reverse and just ring the teeth clean out the thing before finding a false nuteral or blowing the entire gearbox and flywheel and crank apart like i seen in two recent vids of newer but manual BMW and Porker 911. Can name the worst offender of that but so i dont get my comment taken down its the a certain diesel manual gearbox used for GOLF-ing it found its way into various other VAJ or maybe the J in that abbreviation was a G who knows.. they then fitted it to their GTI and 'R' models etc and it had a wee yellow star thing as a bypass valve in it that everyone took out. Can you tell what it is yet😂
Yeah, very close to a money shift. Would have been brutal doing that to someone else's car!
2:59 Mat should've done the sell your car through carwow segment here,it would have been a good transition😂😂
Mat should've sold those cars for reduced price count.
That 205 GTi is still a beast, love the design of that era! Amazing to see how much faster the Twisted Jimny is. Mat should have removed the spare wheel off the back to make it lighter 😂
The 205 gti, 1.6 and 1.9 is a 8 valves, (XU9JA); the 16v version of the 1.9 was released in the 309 gti 16 & 405 mi16 (XU9J*4*) but not in the 205 gti
Came here to say this! UK got the 405 Mi16 but not the 309 GTI 16.
I remember driving a friends 405 MI16 and thinking it was fast as hell 🤣 And the Opel Kadett GSI 16v... don't know the name for it in other countries...
@@brendanfleming6584 oh ? Why ? So only the 309 gti 8v 130hp?
Sam wanted to go off road so badly but obviously didn't out of respect to the car's owner 😂😂
I thought they would joke about matt putting it into reverse while trying to get into 4th😂😂
Did it a couple of times. They need a new presenter
@@shanginadildoyep. Shu Uchida should be the one to become Carwow's new presenter.
I miss my 1.9 GTI. First proper hot hatch I owned. Not particularly fast but it didn't need to be. Could put a smile on your face on any B road without breaking the speed limit.
the 1.9 with the webber carb swap was fast dude so was my Mi16 swapped one. Took a tuned Sierra/Escort cosworth to beat my mi16 swapped 205. It wasted all the usual 2.0 16v stuff like Astra GTE like they were nothing and was beating Cavy and Calibra Turbos. Tell you what the mi16 205 could hang with neck and neck if you remember the rover 400 and 600s with the T series engine. Yeah that was about the same. They were fast cars dude like i said it took a cossie to take down a well tuned golf mk2 gti or 205Gti even on carb swap
Peugeot 205 GTI is such a legend! I really like this car
Who would have thought that this would turn out to be one of the funniest drag races on the channel!? God, I wish Mat and his team did Top Gear!!!
What a good timing Mat. I'm so bored scrolling on CZcams and got this notification
Sam did justice to the shifting.. amazing power shifts…
Amazing amazing old school racer ♠️♥️😎
“You’ll always win, if you race yourself, won’t cha.” that goes on my IG bio, thanks racing driver Sam 😂😂
One of your most entertaining videos yet, Mat. Kudos!
You can see sam’s real racing driver skills when it comes to brake test with manual cars
He using engine breaking to slow the car along with the breaks
205 was never 16 valve. However people did a mi16 conversion from the 405
205 T16 200 units of street car built for the purpose of homologation. The engine was a twin-cam 16-valve turbo four.
yeah i suspect they know now. Good call though mate i was suprised they got that wrong tbh
@@philgabriel5264yeah we know. That was a T16 homologation pal not a 205 GTi.
@@philgabriel5264dude that is no 205, it’s a completely different car that looks like one. 😅😅😅
@@fabioribeiro5071IKR by his logic any Sierra i bought from a showroom was automatically an RS500 😂 I'd have loved to got my 205GTi from the dealer on his world were if i wanted a 16v version the salesman got me in a T16 Rally car with a straight-cut gearbox and cone type torsen diffs and m turbo lag for weeks 😂
We need a drag race between 205 gti, vw G40, renault 5 gt turbo phase 2 and more 80s legends
I absolutely love how we went from faceless racing driver Sam, to "One of the boys, Sam" 😂
7:12 is the start of the drag race
Thank you, legend.
All good bro@@gwajimzana3209
205 looks awesome still!
These drag races are just getting funnier and better, love it!!
Races between these three are getting more and more unhinged, I love it.
"Unhinged" perfectly describes these races.😅
boy in the stock Jimny is a wet flannel. Sams the man though i didnt even like him at first back years ago when i first heard or seen his face but he's the man hes a grower.
Amazing dedication...that 1980s legend was a goat at its era
Matt never dissapoints
Yep. Coco Hayashi also a big fan of these 1980s WRC cars.
@@purwantiallan5089 agree with you strongly
Mat just knows how to get under Sam's skin . . . That ending was priceless (Jimnies in the field - Sam wants to but can't follow) . . .
Advantage of longer gears in the GTi🔥🔥
Most exciting races in a while!
I see Sam I smile. He's hilarious. Loved when he shown up in drag races. 😂
Ich möchte dir danken Matt. Du bist der einziger CZcamsr, der fast jeden Tag intressante Videos für uns raushaut. Mein ganzes Leben besteht nur aus Langeweile und du bist die einzige Ablenkung...thanks man
I swear, carwow never fails to entertain me. Well done, such an amazing race.
Please do more of these older cars! It was something nice and relaxing to watch compared to other hypercars.
Could feel it comin good early upload Matt using his own car is gold 💯
Well definitely.
matt should sell his car through carwow
We love Jimmys!! How wonderful to be here in Japan you are doing drag race at Suzuka circuit 🤩
I’d choose the GTI all day….and I did as I have a 1990 phase 2 version…just for info you couldn’t get a 16v version of the 205…some people have converted them by using the 16v engine from the 406 Mi 16. The 1993 205 1.9 GTI had catalytic converters so reduced power from 130bhp down to 123bhp which was only 8 bhp more than the 1.6 had in its updated power state (early versions only had 105bhp and shared the engine with the Citroen Visa GTI
The look on Mat's face when he nearly money shifted it (twice) made me panic 😆😱
Looks like he went into reverse from 3rd at 7:48
That modified Suzuki Jimny looks sick. It looks good and is actually fast.
Agree. It has 200bhp when tuned.
jimny is not made for speed kids. Suzuki have motorbikes for that that can blow the doors off your favourite "performance car" If you buy a jimny to drag race on the road you are a toolbag end of
Love the 205 GTi! Still such a good looking car 3 decades on! Great video!
Props to leaving everything in this video. I loved that ot was so natural
Nice one guys, Sam is soooo funny with his need to win :)
I had 2 205 GTI 1.9, a G and H reg both in Cherry Red. They were 8v not 16v 👍
The 16v was in the 405 mi16 or the 309 GTi 16 if I remember correctly. Although I think some people have put 16v into the 205
Thanks this video was amzing and very intresting like every other one you make thanks for the entetanment
I had the diesel 205, 1.7. Awesome little car. The light weight and diesel torque made it a delight on roundabouts and twisty stuff, even at sensible speeds.
I'm 20 seconds in, and so have no idea of the result, but the fact is - I actually own a Peugeot 205 1.9GTi, and it will always be the winner to me - no matter the outcome!!!! (Though I don't think I've ever been more excited about a potential result!! Haha!!).
Well definitely. The car itself is cool tho.
Same here. Had mine since 1998.
7:39 that's one hell of an incredible gearshift
Well yes it has 20000rpm before shifting up.
@purwantiallan5089 excuse me I count 4 wheels and not 2 :P
Was referring to the mastery/swiftness of manual gear shifting haha
Race more Peugeots please ❤
loved everything about this. the quote was on point 😅
What a strange concept, we love to see it. I want a jimny so bad 🥺
Jimny Tuned has $100.000 price tag. On par with Cappucino HP Tuned.
The 4 door version of jimney is just 13k in india
you want the older Grand Vitara a great one waa the latter proper 4x4 one in UK was sold 06 till 09. The ones after looked simmilar but became more SUV than 4x4. The best offroad Suzuki Vehicle there is is 06 GV it decimates Jimnys but needs bigger tyres and 50mm lift kit for £450-800 for the best lift kits including new shocks. The older GV is much more refined than Jimny it does 100mph motorway no sweat even on big offroad tyres and has massively more towing capability so 2.2-2.5ton compared to a ton.
@@purwantiallan5089?? 100k? mate here in the UK can get a Jimny commercial for £18k vat free and put a buolt 2JZ engine and £10 of suspension and Brake mods for £50k. Even this twisted thing is a rip of for 60k theyre trippin. Folk fitting rotary and alsorts to them for under £30k for the full build from a Jimny commercial aka £18k vat free.
@@purwantiallan5089do you just go about talking 90% garabage every vid?
Mat jumped the start on the first pull!!!
Well on the second pull, Matt and Shu Uchida jumped the start.
Mats a notorious start jumper im suprised he only did it once here
Love this more "down to earth" drag races!!
Love when talking about the cars no spare wheel on the 205 then he takes it out after the first run lol Another great video love this channel
The best hot hatch ever is the Delta Integrale. No question!
I got to drive one once... but only up onto the back of a mate's trailer. 😞
Yep loved my Evo
lived in the Sierra cosworths shadow a 2wd saph could spank even the special editions
Edit: i know the cossie wasnt a hatch but my point was hot hatches days were over the cossie 3 door and RS500 ended everything nobody cared about catagorising at that point it was a family car that with some minor mods utterly starched anything short of an F40😂
@@karlx19what Evo? 😂 I detect a non-owner
@@bigduphusaj162 eh? I owned a1992 Madras Blue Evo 1 from 2003 to 2017 so I pretty much know everything there is to know about grales
Correction, there is no 16v version of any 205 Gti, that's for the 309 Mi16 or 405 only
16v mi16 engine was available in France. For both 309 and 205. But not in the UK.
@@skylined5534306 and 405 had a GTI 6 engine. Not Mi16.
2 of my favourite cars, lovely conditions, flat out, 80s noise
is this heaven?
“Youll always win if you race yourself won’t cha”had me creesin😂🤣
They did not doa 205 gti 16v, some people put the 16v engine from the 405 m16 in them.
Imagine if Matt got his own Netflix show
My first car was a 205 XS was such a fun car. Would love to find a clean Gti
One of the best episodes I Loved it 😂♥️The trio so funny
Peugeot 205😍
That poor 205's spare wheel holder Shaved down and Dragged to an inch of its Life🤣🤣🤣
Peugeot 205 1.9 (16v version) was my first new car in 1990 and still one of the most memorable! Great video - would have been interesting to put it up against the equivalent Golf GTI (1.8) from that period - I also owned a MkI Golf GTI 1.6 Mki (the original GTi) but preferred the 205!
Mat, Sam, Nick and Rory should and must be the four presenters of CarWow. These guys are absolutely hilarious and I love watching them. 😅😅
Excellent job braking that 205. There's no way that had ABS yet he didn't lock up at all. Well done bud.
To racecardriver sam!!! Love you in the videos man. Chase is a race you should have said! Kudos for staying hahaha. Great videos guys
Great race!😸
@matwatsoncars you need to come down the gears on the brake test like the other two, engine braking will always slow you down faster
205 GTI, Renault 5 GT Turbo and the Fiesta RS Turbo. They were the OGs while I was growing up.
Fantastic video to wake up to. Hilarious how much impact a spare tire has
Big impact.
Gotta love this squad 🙌🏼
Would love to see bunch of old Peugeot cars drag race, such as 106 ralleye-gti, 206 rc, 207 rc, 307xsi. Would be fun to watch!
Man i finished a bowl a cereal before the race even started...😭😂 not hating haha i love the vids but it something i noticed hahaha
Sam gearing down for the brake test is so legendary👏🏼💪🏼
been waiting for 3 days for a new upload just to watch a jimny against a peugeot 😂
Beautiful shot with the Peugeot and the rainbow in the background
The original 205 GTI was 130BHP The reason this later one is listed as 8bhp down is because they had to fit catalytic converters from 1992.
😳😁.. Reminds me back of 90's era.. my car jimny 1990.. I did some change for ignition like coil, spark plug & cable, exhaust.. It was quite work for street drag at that time..ahh what a wonderful time
The 205 originally had the 1.6L 8V. The Rallye version had the 1.8L 16V Turbo engine. The 1.9L was seen with 8V but came with 16V on the Peugeot 309/405. In 1993, the 205 received a cat converter and lost power. The original rating for the 1.9L 205 was 130 HP.
Civic Type R, Golf GTI, Golf R, Focus RS, GR Corolla all have something to say about that “best hot hatch ever” statement.
"It's gripped."
"It's sorted!"
"LET'S OFF-ROAD!"
[Credit: 'The Fast Show'.]
Iam.sure revser lights are not working but the ending was great😊
Sam engine braking, dropping down the gears in the brake test, love it, good old fashioned 90’s right there. 😊
that was so cool!