BMW EWS II security bypass on 1995 M3 by froggy

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  • čas přidán 26. 08. 2024
  • I show how to bypass the EWS II security system on a 1995 BMW M3. I did this because the EWS II failed and it would have been very expensive to have a BMW dealer fix the problem. $500 to $2000. dollars US depending on the dealer. This was a no crank problem started as intermittant and went to permanent. The system matches a code on a chip in the key to a code in the DME (engine control unit). by froggy
    Here are some still photos of the EWS II
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Komentáře • 676

  • @k-bear7707
    @k-bear7707 Před 8 lety +2

    Froggy, you are a life saver! The transponder chip fell out of my only key when the BMW logo popped out, and I couldn't find it. My e36 325i convertible is also production date 7/1995, so I looked at the DME and sure enough, it's a silver label Bosch 413 just like yours. I jumped the green and black wires on the EWS II like you did and voila! I don't have to pay a penny to the stealership for a new transponder key, and now my car starts up like a champ! Also, I can get new keys cut from Ace Hardware or Home Despot and they will work too because the EWS II is totally bypassed! Please keep posting videos when you do work on your M3 so people like me can save a ton of money and headache! Thanks again!

    • @1947froggy
      @1947froggy  Před 8 lety

      +K Bear So glad this helped & thanks for the feedback. I hope other people who use my videos to get their car running and/or save money will post back, as you did.
      :)

    • @wettsoggynoodles
      @wettsoggynoodles Před rokem

      did this really work for you? i'm in the same predicament where i lost the chip out of my key and couldn't find it, and currently waiting on a new fuel pump before I can try and start it again new with the wire jumped.

    • @k-bear7707
      @k-bear7707 Před rokem

      @@wettsoggynoodles Yes, when I did have that 325i years ago I jumped those wires and was able to bypass the EWS II, energize the fuel pump, and start the car without the chip. That was years ago and I no longer have the car, but as long as your E36 matches what froggy said then it should work.
      Make sure to follow up let us know here in the comments how it went for you after you try it.

  • @archnemesis4216
    @archnemesis4216 Před 11 lety +9

    Dear 1947froggy, I just want to say you are my hero!, this worked perfectly on my 97' BMW 3.18is. The video can be shorted to 30 seconds where you explain which cables needs to be cut & combined. It took me 3 minutes to fix a 6 month problem. Thank You!

  • @1947froggy
    @1947froggy  Před 11 lety +2

    Thanks for the kind words, I do sometimes "over explain" stuff, but my viewers include folks that are really new to auto repair up to technicians that do it for a living, so I am always balancing being brief with verbose. And I do like to throw in little tidbits that may be slightly off topic.
    Cheers!

    • @mikebaker4934
      @mikebaker4934 Před 6 lety

      froggy yes I have a BMW I8 when I tried to start it it won't start but the alarm is going off when I say when I try to start it it won't turn over or make any kind of noise just alarm go off if anybody have any ideas let me know please thank you

  • @agent1174
    @agent1174 Před 11 lety +4

    Just wanted to clarify something. Your wiring modification jumps the starter relay which is located inside the ews module. This however does not disable the EWS system. if you tried to start the car with a chipless key it would crank but not start because the ews still inhibits spark/fuel. Similarly if a different component of the EWS was to fail this bypass would not fix the problem.

    • @hakimyusuf5370
      @hakimyusuf5370 Před 8 měsíci

      This is right. My e36 1996 can crank with no start
      Can any body help me to start?

  • @DisgruntledCornGuy
    @DisgruntledCornGuy Před 9 lety +1

    1997 328i - Works!!
    I missed work today because of this. But thanks to you I'll be there tomorrow. Can't thank you enough!

    • @1947froggy
      @1947froggy  Před 9 lety

      hi Brian that's great I'm so glad my video helped you

  • @1947froggy
    @1947froggy  Před 11 lety +2

    The ews bypass is used when you have diagnosed that the ews circuit board is broken. ALL other components of the starting system including the chip in the key and the antenna around the key, must still function. All I did was bypass the ews circuit board & it started & ran as new.

  • @Antreges
    @Antreges Před 9 lety +4

    Thank you sir! You are a gentleman, a scholar, and a fine judge of liquor.

  • @Mr3erCabrio
    @Mr3erCabrio Před 6 lety +17

    You didn't have bypassed the EWS2. I try to explain why this "trick" does the job on your car. When you turn your key, the EWS2 check if you have a good key (password check). If the check is successful it switches a relay inside of the EWS2 unit. This relay simply connects the two wires you have connected manually together. These two wires are only for the starter. BUT, the EWS2 does more. It sends a coded signal to your ECU on another wire that the ECU should allow the following start. So, whats happend in your car, is simply that the relay inside the EWS2 has failed. This means, that you just have bridged the relay, and forced the starter to turn, but you cannot prevent the EWS to send signals to the DME and check if the DME and EWS2 are aligned. If the start was successful your EWS2 sends a new "password" to your key for the next start via the ring antenna and only this password will "unlock" the EWS2 for the next start after the ignition was shut down for 10 seconds at last. I bet, if you remove the chip of your key, the car won't start. The car will crank, because you connected the to starter wires together, but it will not start. You can not disable the EWS2 with cutting and connecting wires. If you will fix the failed relay inside of your EWS2 and reconnect the two wires back to the ESW2 your car and start immobilizer will work as designed.

    • @1947froggy
      @1947froggy  Před 6 lety +4

      You are probably correct, this "tricks" the ews2. I don't have the time/tools/parts to fix it as you describe. Mine works.
      Thanks for the thoughtful comment.
      :)

    • @hurtdatown
      @hurtdatown Před 6 lety

      Which relay is it?? You sound like a bmw mechanic!! We DIYers are doing this ourselves....with no help. And we sure in the hell are not coming to your stealership!!! Because honestly that all what these relays and modules are about!!! They go bad so people can come to the service department and you the advisor tell us its a head gasket blown....overly charge us.....change the relays or module....and the car works fine... While we pay thousands... Hell no!!! Thanks froggy

    • @josepeixoto3384
      @josepeixoto3384 Před 6 lety +3

      Mr3, THANKS for a very clear explanation: this is the ONLY way one can do repairs,by KNOWING; thanks

    • @godjhaka7376
      @godjhaka7376 Před 6 lety +1

      thanks for the thoughtful insight and time to type all that. That is great insight so we others can innerstand the system and what's happening.. people who are thinkers will use this to investigate the bigger picture and see it.
      thanks

  • @ryanroper628
    @ryanroper628 Před 10 lety +1

    Good bypass, for others that cant do all that. You can get a DME, key w/ tumbler, and EWS from a downer car (bout $250 for set / ebay). Install ignition (key), EWS module, and DME in about half hour. The car will never know the difference, no programming (plug and play).
    Thanks for the bypass tip, sure I can use in the future.

  • @ATCRyderX
    @ATCRyderX Před 9 lety +2

    I'll be giving this whole thing a whirl on my 95 325i Convertible tomorrow. I *think* I've narrowed my problems down to this EWS nonsense. Great tutorial, froggy. Thanks so much!

    • @1947froggy
      @1947froggy  Před 9 lety +1

      Please comment back how it goes.
      :)

    • @ATCRyderX
      @ATCRyderX Před 9 lety

      froggy Well. I did it. Key works every single time now. Come to find out though I had my main relay swapped with my Fuel Pump Relay. I still can't get the fuel pump to turn on. Only when I manually force it to turn on via 12V. Any suggestions? Anyone? =\

    • @1947froggy
      @1947froggy  Před 9 lety

      Well a relay is sort of like a switch, if you swap one for the other it doesn't matter, just a switch, so long as the "rating" is sufficient. Coul be a BAD relay, they were out.

    • @garyvanhoozer895
      @garyvanhoozer895 Před 9 lety

      ATCRyderX© did you find the answer to your problem got same issue after bypass ?

    • @ATCRyderX
      @ATCRyderX Před 9 lety

      Gary Van Hoozer After bypass, I can crank all the time but still no fuel pump or start.

  • @1947froggy
    @1947froggy  Před 11 lety

    Good info. On my 1995 this is NO clutch pedal switch. So this shows how each model year can be VERY different, which I have mentioned many times. Thanks for the comment.
    :)

  • @deathbysr20
    @deathbysr20 Před 10 lety +2

    Great video. Bypass worked for me. Fired up first try. I didn't even bother messing with the key antenna. Mine is a 01/95. For those people saying it doesn't work for them, I believe is because this is for obd1 with ews2. The later models had a fuel and spark cut along with the ignition. Thanks froggy.

    • @paulneufeld9703
      @paulneufeld9703 Před 10 lety

      I have a e36 318is from I think January or February 1995 with OBD1 will it work ?

    • @Primtym
      @Primtym Před 6 lety

      Do you know how to do it the the fuel and spark ? I have a 99 M3 auto and I need to do something similar but would like a more confident plan

    • @Primtym
      @Primtym Před 6 lety

      death by sr20 do you know how to do it with the fuel and spark cut out ? I have a 99 M3 auto . Thanks in advance

  • @sanchezesteban603
    @sanchezesteban603 Před 9 lety

    FYI! I JUST BYPASSED 2000 X5 E53 4.4i EWS AND IT WORKED FOR THIS MODEL TOO ! THANKS A MILLION FROGGY!!!!

    • @1947froggy
      @1947froggy  Před 9 lety

      Wow, I am glad it worked, but also surprised. I only documented it to show how it works on my 1995 M3.
      So that is great to know, thanks a LOT for the post.
      :)

    • @sanchezesteban603
      @sanchezesteban603 Před 9 lety

      AFTER MANY HOURS OF BIMMER FORUMS AND CZcams DIY VIDEO I QUICKLY LEARNED THAT YOUR REMEDY WAS THE MOST EFFECTIVE AND MORE LIKELY TO WORK (SO WHY NOT TRY IT IN SAME STEPS YOU TOOK BUT ON MY E53 4.4Ii X5). EVERYTHING ELSE JUST DIDN'T MAKE SENSE BASED ON EVENTS LEADING ME HERE. REPLACED BATTERY, REPLACED FUEL FILTER THEN NO CRANK NO START. SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN THE EWS AND DME ACTIVATED THE ANTI- THEFT SYSTEM NOT AUTHORIZING IGNITION TO START ENGINE. I WAS TOLD I NEEDED A STARTER OR BANG ON IT TO UNFREEZE IT BUT AFTER BY PASSING IGNITION STARTING X5 FROM STARTER I KNEW MY STARTER WAS FINE. SO THEN I DECIDED TO TRY "THE FROGGY METHOD" AND WITHOUT A HITCH THE X5 STARTED ON FIRST TRY. THANKS AGAIN FROGGY
      AND THANK YOU CZcams!

    • @1947froggy
      @1947froggy  Před 9 lety

      Glad that it helped & thanks for posting the comment.
      :)

  • @1947froggy
    @1947froggy  Před 11 lety +1

    It's common for some oil to be in the wells where the plugs are. Valve cover gasket kit includes new gaskets to fix that. Would not affect starting. You may have a bad solenoid/bad starter, but I can't be sure.
    Back in the day one guy would turn the key and one would take a long tool and bang on the starter, be careful. You could short out the wires there.
    Can you take a reader & get some codes?

  • @tafarimarsh9975
    @tafarimarsh9975 Před rokem +1

    I've got the same issue my key ring antenna is damaged vehicle will not start I did the bypass it cranks but I'm getting no fuel at injectors was there another wire cut at the DME

  • @1947froggy
    @1947froggy  Před 11 lety

    Correct, if I was not clear on this, sorry. I think I did say you still need the chip/key. It's a very "insidious" security system, for better or worse.

  • @MrDriftshop
    @MrDriftshop Před 11 lety

    Cheers for showing the bypass. I used this mod on my 95 E38 750IL and I got the engine turning over, but no start.
    It uses the same EWS II system, but the difference is the DMEs ( Engine ECUs) have a rolling code that comes from the EWS to enable the fuel and ignition circuit.
    Therefore, without the EWS working - the DMEs won't wake up to RUN the engine.
    What I have confirmed, is that the EWS is cactus. The BMW INPA software shows that it's not getting the signal from the keys either.

  • @racrx7
    @racrx7 Před rokem +1

    Jumping those two wires takes ignition switch cranking voltage strait to the starter solenoid. It just bypasses the internal relay of the EWS2 module that closes the crank circuit when proper conditions are met. After the key, antenna ring, transmitter, EWS2 module, and DME all shake hands meeting starting requirement, the car will start. The DME also controls fuel injection and igniter packs. The rest of your EWS2 module must have been ok. 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @scottmcneal6218
    @scottmcneal6218 Před 9 lety

    I have the same problem dude! I had to query so many different ways to see if anyone else had my problem. Lights are on, but no one is home!
    I will be checking this out tomorrow, I am glad I will not having to be taking off the undersides of the drivers side dash, I read about the jumper issue but your video makes it pretty clear! THANK YOU!

    • @1947froggy
      @1947froggy  Před 9 lety

      Scott McNeal I will be away for about 10 days, but feel free to post questions & I'll catch up when I'm back. Good luck.
      :)

  • @SuicidalSlider
    @SuicidalSlider Před 8 lety

    just done an M50 engine conversion on my buds compact with ews2 and have come to the no start problem, will try this at the weekend and hopfully it works.
    thnx for the simplicity of the vid :) this stuff gets overcomplicated very easy

    • @1947froggy
      @1947froggy  Před 8 lety

      +SuicidalSlider Good luck & post back how it goes.
      :)

  • @damienrodriguez3288
    @damienrodriguez3288 Před 4 lety +1

    Very clear and understandable video. I am mechanically inclined, but I have a 99 323is and I am going to investigate this scenario. I was lead to believe that I have a bad DME, but it could be a bad EWS I suppose. the car turns over but no start no fuel pump no power to DME. If it is the security module, I wonder if this will work on mine. I’ll try hopefully in a week and post. Also my son found a 96 318 in really good condition. Only the owner says it has “a bad security module” so that would be a win for that too. Thanks

    • @1947froggy
      @1947froggy  Před 4 lety

      Good luck, post on your progress, thanks!

    • @wettsoggynoodles
      @wettsoggynoodles Před rokem

      hey, i have same symptoms as you. my issue on top of the crank no start is i think i accidentally opened my key and lost my chip in it without realizing because i checked mine just now and it's not there. did the bypass work for you?

  • @user-rz6su7rn3w
    @user-rz6su7rn3w Před 7 měsíci +1

    Will this work on e36 m43 engine

  • @frankfast4700
    @frankfast4700 Před 5 lety

    Thank you so much for this. This fixed our problem exactly. We just did a manual swap on a 96 e36. Worked perfect untill we drove it home, all lights on and no crank. Replaced the starter, changed nothing. Cut the same two wires and spliced them together and presto!

    • @1947froggy
      @1947froggy  Před 5 lety

      Great that this old video is still helping, have fun with the car!
      :)

  • @1947froggy
    @1947froggy  Před 11 lety +1

    Continue, the fuel pump must be good, the starter must be good, the DME must be good. The bypass I showed does not fix all that other "stuff".

  • @NeonNerd87
    @NeonNerd87 Před 12 lety

    Greetings Froggy I followed this procedure on my 97 (10/96) 528i with an EWS 2 system, it was located in the same place yours was with a few differences, I to had the no crank problem and after splicing the two thickest wires on the EWS connector I finally got it to...crank! .....

  • @redrock1963
    @redrock1963 Před 8 lety +1

    I have just done this to my 95 328 and it worked well. Considering I did the full replacement of ecu, ews just two years ago at the cost of $300 I was skeptical but sure enough...........it did it again. So thank you Froggy for your efforts and your posting.

    • @1947froggy
      @1947froggy  Před 8 lety

      Thanks for taking the time to post up your success!
      :)

  • @relyiain
    @relyiain Před 8 lety +1

    not too clear which two wires you jumped/connected Froggy . I got the two you cut.

  • @MrRoyalbeers
    @MrRoyalbeers Před 8 lety

    I've seen many videos about bypass. Most of them are extremely complicated and require more than basic skills with a solder iron. I will try this method on my car if and when I install remote start and start button. If it works it will save me a 100 hours of problems. Thank you very much for the video :)

    • @1947froggy
      @1947froggy  Před 8 lety

      +MrRoyalbeers Hope it helps, it fixed MY SPECIFIC problem 100%. Trouble is some people have a different issue and think THIS will fix it, not so much.
      :)

  • @1947froggy
    @1947froggy  Před 11 lety

    Hi Gene,
    Thanks for checking back. I found a few of the emulators, it seems some (all?) need a diagnostic tool to program the emulator to the car. The difference, it seems, is my procedure does not require these emulators and does not need to be programmed to the car with a diagnostic tool.
    Other than those points it seems they accomplish the same thing, get the darn car running!
    Thanks!

  • @1947froggy
    @1947froggy  Před 11 lety

    Old school way was if the starter clicks but no spin, bang on the relay if you can reach it, it's on the starter. If that spins it you have a bad starter/relay. Always be looking at your elec. wire connections for short/fray/break.
    :)

  • @donaldroberts4207
    @donaldroberts4207 Před 7 lety +1

    FYI, very important, there is also another wire to cut so that your DME is not looking for the signal, I would recommend doing both this procedure and the other ..
    both together.

    • @1947froggy
      @1947froggy  Před 7 lety

      Thanks, for MY CAR this was all I needed to do.
      :)

    • @jadenrichmond9993
      @jadenrichmond9993 Před 7 lety

      So which is the extra wire to cut? E39 528i cranks no start

    • @alanekland4886
      @alanekland4886 Před 7 lety

      Could we know please which wire to cut if the car now cranks, but is a no start after splicing the two thickest wires. I've read pin 4, which should be green, but mine is black :( Or if there is any other alternative.

  • @1947froggy
    @1947froggy  Před 11 lety +1

    You need to test if you have voltage AT the starter when you twist the key.

  • @1947froggy
    @1947froggy  Před 12 lety

    As I worked thru mine, I did find a guy in CA (I believe) who had a web site & rebuilds the ews circuit board, but he only does certain ones (as they are different year to year). He could not do mine but maybe do yours, cheaper than new ones from dealer. Sorry I do not have contact info, but if you google enough you should find him.

  • @1947froggy
    @1947froggy  Před 11 lety

    On my 95 ews killed the fuel pump and the starter, not sure if it also killed spark. Once I did my bypass it just fired up & ran. German anti theft laws required car makers to up the security in later years, so you may have an additional level of security to bypass. Post a comment if/when you crack it. Wish I had more.
    :)

  • @jackkapple8600
    @jackkapple8600 Před 11 lety +1

    Do you know anything about EWS 3.3? Will I be able to cut and fuse the wires together like you did in the video?

  • @1947froggy
    @1947froggy  Před 11 lety

    As I understand it, and I don't claim to be "expert" in this, the bypass "allows" the use of the red label dme, but does not "require" it, I just kept the original dme & it worked.

  • @1947froggy
    @1947froggy  Před 12 lety

    Hi Chris,
    With the bypass I did I still have a key with a chip. Not sure why but that's what worked. Go figure.

  • @DrewDizzy42OH
    @DrewDizzy42OH Před 11 lety

    i didnt put a pressure gauge but i did test the fuel injectors and the hose that its connected to and no gas goes through the injectors and no gas goes through the hose. so im guessing its a fuel pump or fuel filter problem. what now

  • @johnwieboldt1969
    @johnwieboldt1969 Před 4 lety +1

    Thanks, found this old video and helping me a lot on what wires to head for.

  • @archnemesis4216
    @archnemesis4216 Před 11 lety

    Hi, a pro mechanic fixed the issue on my car, 318is 97 Manual, this info may be useful to someone else here.
    The no crank issue was located on the clutch pedal. The EWS does not affect the starter, it locks the engine only (at least on my model)
    When you push it, the clutch pedal makes a bridge connection that allows your car starter to crank, if you have a no crank issue, you should check the clutch pedal connection first, a slack cable on this connection was the issue for me.
    Cheers!

  • @philipblick8887
    @philipblick8887 Před 5 lety

    Hi Froogy l have recently recently purchased a RHD 96 E36. My car is automatic and l wondered why it was able to be started in gear instead of only in park or neutral, after taking out the glovebox l noticed the two heavy wires you refer to had been disconnected from the ECU (somebody has discarded the device) (gone) and joined these two wires together. The plug is just hanging there now and doing nothing. Initially I assumed the starting fault was caused by a faulty inhibiter switch on the gear change, after watching your video and reading other comments. I am reluctant to replace the inhibitor switch if that's not at fault and I've gone to all the effort and expense to renew it to then find out it's not the problem
    If anybody can offer me any assistance and advice l would appreciate it very much.R.
    Kind regards from New Zealand.

    • @1947froggy
      @1947froggy  Před 5 lety

      Not at all sure on that, immobilizer is for security/stolen car, nothing to do with starting in gear that I know. Good luck.

  • @1947froggy
    @1947froggy  Před 11 lety +1

    Does it spin over or just give a weak try to spin over?

  • @1947froggy
    @1947froggy  Před 11 lety

    Yes, if it ran it's not security system, time to put a starter in. Keep me posted. Sorry no video on that.
    :)

  • @HtwnFishMane
    @HtwnFishMane Před 11 lety

    I have a 95' 325i that has no crank issues. Ok, so I've done exactly what you did. I have not yet put evwrything back together (manifold, bc I thought it was starter), but after bridging the two wires it cranked after not doing that before. I'm reading about this stuff online and everyone is saying that bridging the two wires will indeed make it crank, but NOT turnover. But in your case, that is all you have done, correct? Just want to make sure, I'm hoping I'm having the exact problem you had

  • @anthonyanderson8227
    @anthonyanderson8227 Před 8 lety

    froggy, thanks for the response. I've read that in the event the air bags are deployed there is a wire that connects to the battery not sure where it goes but goes bad. what happens is car won't start all doors unlock and 4way flashers come on. one very strange thing that also happens to me is the 4way flashers came on when I reconnected battery.

    • @1947froggy
      @1947froggy  Před 8 lety

      +Anthony Anderson I think that you may want to proceed with a connection between the airbag & the issues. Please post some comments as you go, it will make the video & the subsequent comments more useful to others. THANKS!
      :)

  • @1947froggy
    @1947froggy  Před 9 lety +1

    For Jason, I'm glad it helped you.
    :)

    • @putrireina5215
      @putrireina5215 Před 9 lety

      saya telah melihat vidio anda ini. saya tertarik, dan punya masalah yang sama seperti dlm vidio anda ini. mbl saya BMW 5210i. apa blh di jumper jg? gmn detailnya.....

    • @1947froggy
      @1947froggy  Před 9 lety

      I translated comment, but do not understand question. Sorry.
      :)

    • @putrireina5215
      @putrireina5215 Před 9 lety

      Terima kasih. ?...

    • @Primtym
      @Primtym Před 6 lety

      froggy hi froggy great video . Would you have an idea on how to do it with 99 M3 that I think has the fuel and spark cut off . This is really a pain in the ass

  • @1947froggy
    @1947froggy  Před 12 lety +1

    Glad it helped, fwiw I think the little circuit board just fails (or some tiny part on it fails) after xxx years/miles. It's too bad the manufacturers have to keep putting more and more complicated anti theft systems in, but the consumers & the governments demand it & it's tough nuts to the second/third/forth owner when it fails. Locked out of your own car now that sucks.
    :)

    • @blackfrost273industries4
      @blackfrost273industries4 Před 4 lety

      The links in your description did expire. May you have backups or a way to locate those again? I'm running into the same issue.

  • @relyiain
    @relyiain Před 8 lety

    this is smashing Froggy. I wish I'd seen this before I got ripped off. I have exactly the same problem and they still cant fix it. bless you sir,!!!!!

  • @frankrivera8772
    @frankrivera8772 Před 10 lety +1

    Thank you so much froggy!! I have the same problem with a 2001 525i. You gave me some great direction. Now I just have to figure out which wires will bypass my ews... Thanks again for the great video!!!!

    • @1947froggy
      @1947froggy  Před 10 lety

      Thanks for watching, be advised, there are changes from year to year, a copy of what I did on my 1995 may not work, just sayin.
      Good luck.

    • @fationismaili9847
      @fationismaili9847 Před 10 lety

      froggy brother my car is 1995

    • @1947froggy
      @1947froggy  Před 10 lety

      fation ismaili should work

  • @DrewDizzy42OH
    @DrewDizzy42OH Před 11 lety

    well i already bought a chiltons manual so i guess ill look at that. i hope its the filter. i dont want to mess with the fuel pump. the back seat comes off really easy so i guess ill start there. thanks for all your help. i can give you updates of my progress if youd like

  • @stevethomson7145
    @stevethomson7145 Před 10 lety +1

    Now I can get to work tomorrow morning!!
    You the man Froggy!
    Many Thanks

  • @1947froggy
    @1947froggy  Před 11 lety

    The problem was ONLY the ews circuit board was fried. The bypass takes it "out of the loop". Nothing else was wrong with the car, still running fine.
    :)

  • @wizardsfury857
    @wizardsfury857 Před 5 lety +1

    Where did you get the i formation on location the schematics you showed where the ews is and goes to

  • @1947froggy
    @1947froggy  Před 11 lety

    Thanks for the post. On mine 95 m3 ews2 there does not appear to be a rolling code. Once the bypass was in, it started & ran like a champ.
    Having said that, there are clearly differences from year to year and model to model.
    You really need to research what you are dealing with in each case & not just try the bypass and cross your fingers.
    :)

  • @xDeaver
    @xDeaver Před 3 lety

    This video solved my no crank! Great information thank you.
    My car is a 1996 ews2 318ti with a swapped m50 vanos with a red label 413 dme.

    • @1947froggy
      @1947froggy  Před 3 lety

      Excellent my friend, glad to help!

  • @04snopro
    @04snopro Před 11 lety

    I did the old take the coil out of the hole and put a spark plug in the coil ( with ground strap bolted up to the coil and the plug pressed firmly into the coil) then grounded the threads of the plug to the head with a jumper. then i was able to sit in the passenger seat and look at the plug while turning the engine over. no spark.

  • @mrknowitallyah6058
    @mrknowitallyah6058 Před 7 lety +1

    Froggy. thanks for this great video man. i have a simple question. Do you need to plug the EWS back in for the car top start? I removed my ews and the car turns over but no start.

  • @1947froggy
    @1947froggy  Před 12 lety

    Could be the case, these are quite different year to year, mine I did not need to touch the DME (1995) but later years got more complex. Worth a try if you can get the parts. I don't know if there is a SEPARATE chip for ews in your DME.

  • @iamurnamann8662
    @iamurnamann8662 Před 5 lety

    I have a 1995 525i E34. My car won't start/crank. I have the same EWS 2 version but, I noticed there are two black wires on the yellow connector that about the same size and I'm not sure which one to cut. I'm trying to see the close up angle on the connector in your video but, it's too difficult to tell. Can you let me know the location of the black wire? Thanks!

  • @04snopro
    @04snopro Před 11 lety

    and if there is not what is my next step? im very mechanical but this harness is pretty crazy. I am thankful for any help!

  • @1947froggy
    @1947froggy  Před 11 lety

    Hmmm. The history of BMW EWS security is that they added stuff every year. In 1995 it killed fuel & starter. In later years it "could be" more was disabled. You need to see if power is getting to the coils. How did you diagnose "no spark" What specifically did you test?

  • @gears4brains118
    @gears4brains118 Před 6 lety

    will this not crank but also kill the fuel pump? I had this issue but at first I could push start it, but then It stopped push starting too, but after a couple days would work normal again?!?!??

    • @1947froggy
      @1947froggy  Před 6 lety

      Not sure I understand, but the fuel pump itself should be ok, you are just getting (or not getting) power to it. None of this will kill the pump.
      :)

  • @1947froggy
    @1947froggy  Před 11 lety

    I don't know for sure. The ews system was changed VERY OFTEN on the e36. Sorry.

  • @1947froggy
    @1947froggy  Před 11 lety

    Check the spark at each one of the 6 coils, one at a time. They all need good spark to fire it up. How good/old are each of the injectors?

  • @niteshnand2586
    @niteshnand2586 Před 10 lety

    Do I put back the yellow plug back after bypassing those wires. I bypasses the wires and I haven't put back the plug. There is no spark and fuel at the moment.

  • @danielwebb2014
    @danielwebb2014 Před 11 lety

    someone please help i have a 97 bmw 3 series 1.8 i had a similer problem to yourself froggy i broke to green wire on the ews ring so re connected it and worked fine at the same time this happened the starter packed up obv i thought was the ews ring i put a new starter on but noting wont start from the key. i do have power to the starter but would it stil have power if the secure system was ingaged ?

  • @jcrc9051
    @jcrc9051 Před 8 lety

    Very informative If you still can't fix on your own, there are auto locksmiths that can fix these . MUCH cheaper than dealer. They have a tool to test the antenna and diagnose. I had E 46 issue with the key , the locksmith cut a new key and matched to my EWS.

    • @1947froggy
      @1947froggy  Před 8 lety

      +traxxas man Good point on locksmiths, I have a Lexus IS300 that goes thru keys like I change my sox. Found a local locksmith that makes me one for about $25 vs. $100+ at a dealer. However, I know they do not get involved with ews2 circuit boards.
      :)

  • @neonpiglet76
    @neonpiglet76 Před 8 lety

    The key is chipped but we are using a plastic wallet key to start the car which h worked for the past few years. The battery was disconnected and that is where all the problems have originated from.

    • @1947froggy
      @1947froggy  Před 8 lety

      A simple battery disconnect should not cause problems so far as I know. Unless that causes some kind of "reset" of the security system that was previously "bypassed" somehow. Any way to get the correct chipped key or is it lost?

  • @I_am_kenneth
    @I_am_kenneth Před 3 lety

    I did that it cranks but no fuel cut out any help

  • @felipebojorquez2237
    @felipebojorquez2237 Před rokem +1

    Thanks FROGGYYY!!

  • @jacobjose2539
    @jacobjose2539 Před 3 lety +1

    I have a 2004 BMW 525i Touring...... It some time starts and some time do not. I suspect the key is not talking to the receiver assembly. To get one new key here (Norway) costs 550 USD :( and then also I am not sure whether it will fix the problem and work. Any possibility to bypass all these "great" features and at start my car and keep going.... The car sometime do not start (After few days it will start and work smoothly like nothing happened. I think the transponder on the key does not talk to the receiver on the steering assembly (When the car do not start, Dashboard do not start or light up - No Crank - No Start - Power seat adjustment, power windows, steering level adjustment, central locking etc all work - Battery Good). Private mechanic could not find the problem after troubleshooting for 5 hrs (120 USD $/per hour). They say they do not get any error code and they are not able to find the problem. BMW say they cannot assure to find the problem and it could take 1 hr or even 20 hr ( x 150 USD $/per hour) to troubleshoot and identify the problem, and also they do not commit they can identify. Repair cost will be extra. on top of this. I am in a dead end situation. Any help is very much appreciated. jcbjse@gmail.com

    • @1947froggy
      @1947froggy  Před 3 lety +1

      Unfortunately the start "security" systems change a bit year to year. So what worked on mine might not on yours. Try to find an INDEPENDENT BMW mechanic with GOOD REFERENCES and let him try. That's crazy money for a key, try amazon/ebay? Has to be exact key for your car/ignition system I had a spare key for one of my Vettes & no wear on it, so when my "main" key went bad, just switched. Always have 2 working keys any car. Thanks!

    • @jacobjose2539
      @jacobjose2539 Před 3 lety +1

      @@1947froggy Thank you very much. I will try to find a independent mechanic.

  • @1947froggy
    @1947froggy  Před 11 lety

    Andrew, did you confirm that the fuel pressure is within the proper spec before you crank?
    From what I see it's NOT ews, a bad ews would not let you spin it over.

  • @1947froggy
    @1947froggy  Před 11 lety

    What year is your car and what month was it built? It seems that BMW changed this system almost every year.
    My solution is for 1995 M3 only.

  • @1947froggy
    @1947froggy  Před 11 lety

    On my 95 ews killed the starter AND the fuel so bump start was a no go. I am not sure if it'll fix your 96 since it runs once you bump start it. Sounds more like you have a plain starter issue, good luck.
    :)

  • @leriwradek3959
    @leriwradek3959 Před 11 lety

    Hi Please could you describe to me how to remove immobilizer zprávy.já can not English and it's a total problem I 328 and has the same unit as the ews I can start I lost my chip please you describe in the report so I could translate

  • @1947froggy
    @1947froggy  Před 12 lety

    Did you plug the ews back in after the wires were jumped?

  • @niteshnand2586
    @niteshnand2586 Před 10 lety

    We cut the two wires and connected the EWS. Now the starter is cranking but still no spark and no fuel.

  • @DrewDizzy42OH
    @DrewDizzy42OH Před 11 lety

    i put up a new video to help better explain whats happening. it gets so close to starting but it doesnt kick over. when i turn the key most of the time i get a loud drill sound which is the starter. ive already pulled the starter off and tested it and its good. any suggestion?? thank you

  • @Chris151ish
    @Chris151ish Před 11 lety

    Did some digging around, got the car to tumble, got the fuel pumping to the engine. Just one little thing I'm missing. Seems I'm not getting any spark. But everything else seems to be functioning. What can be done to the DME? Any helpful websites?

  • @dm330ci
    @dm330ci Před 11 lety

    It is a loud click that's distinct. I tried jump starting it and nothing. I can try to see if it's a bad battery. But sounds starter or ews related, any ideas? Will oil in spark plugs cause the car not to start?

  • @ernestoduarte1748
    @ernestoduarte1748 Před 8 lety +2

    hola soy de panama podrias mandarme la traduccion de este video tengo un bmw 318is del 97 automatico y la llave con chip no arranca de pronto la antena esta rota donde va la llave en el cilindro ..esto me podria solucionar el problema que tengo ..que tendria que haser por fabor ..gracias

    • @joeespinoza3981
      @joeespinoza3981 Před 8 lety +1

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    • @msinclaircorp4571
      @msinclaircorp4571 Před 6 lety

      hola Ernesto yo también soy de Panama y tengo el mismo carro y el mismo problema y adoro mi carro por cierto, te puedo ayudar con la traduccion si todavia tienes el problema, mi correo es msinclaircorp@gmail.com escribeme y nos ponemos en contacto.

  • @MaxRix325
    @MaxRix325 Před 7 lety +1

    Thanks! Really saved a lot of my time and money. Do more videos like this, really appreciate this!!!!!!

  • @scottdean8253
    @scottdean8253 Před 9 lety

    will this work on a 1997 BMW 328i convertible? keys were stolen antenna ring wires are twisted off thank you so far

  • @alekxxgoran49
    @alekxxgoran49 Před 10 lety

    i just done a conversyion used all the rite ste stuff and im still havin probss with starting no igition ay all execept reds on dasdh
    my car 1995 emws i wanna get rid of the w sysyem but if u can find way to crank car i need help

  • @ardianrama1166
    @ardianrama1166 Před 7 lety

    hello did you change the ring antenna ore dosent matter if thring antenna is bad ? thanks

  • @AkYo2121
    @AkYo2121 Před 8 lety

    I'm fairly certain my 95 M3 e36 is having this issue right now.. the symptoms are that it works after several turns of the key and it is only getting worse as days go by. I might have to just snip snip !

    • @1947froggy
      @1947froggy  Před 8 lety

      It is reversible if you do a neat job of it.
      :)

  • @1947froggy
    @1947froggy  Před 11 lety

    Well the filter is easy & not too expensive, I guess I'd do that first. I have not replaced a fuel pump on mine so no help there. I believe it's in the tank & some folks will pull the back seat & get access there, but you will need to find a diy fuel pump instruction for that or the factory service manual.
    :)

  • @RallyRogue
    @RallyRogue Před 6 měsíci

    Now what if its already disabled the fuel pump. Will this work? Or is that for the starter only

    • @1947froggy
      @1947froggy  Před 6 měsíci

      Sorry car long gone, not sure. :)

  • @dm330ci
    @dm330ci Před 11 lety

    I tried the stomp test and didn't get any code other than 1444 which read there are no codes stored. I'm really thinking it might be the starter, but this was sudden and not intermittent which makes it even harder to diagnose. I had Jo previous symptoms, the only thing that would happen occasionally was my flashers would come on and then I had to push the hazard light and it would turn off. Any idea what that might be? I thought it might relate to ews.

  • @HtwnFishMane
    @HtwnFishMane Před 11 lety

    I have a 95' 325i that was not cranking. I thought it was the starter, so I replaced it and it still no crank. So I went ahead and did what you did and bridged the two wires and it cranked up. Now, I haven't tried to fully start it yet bc I forgot to put on an important hose so had to take manifold again but am doing that after work. I've been reading that this will only make it crank and not start, and im worried mine will do the same. So ALL you did here was bridge the two wires. Right??

  • @NeonNerd87
    @NeonNerd87 Před 12 lety

    Greetings Froggy I followed this procedure on my 97 (10/96) 528i with an EWS 2 system, it was located in the same place yours was with a few differences, I to had the no crank problem and after splicing the two thickest wires on the EWS connector I finally got it to...crank! Lol but still no start, I feel like I made progress but I may be missing ONE LITTLE thing to make it fully start. Any input would greatly be appreciated for there are ALOT of people with e39s who are in the same predicament

  • @DrewDizzy42OH
    @DrewDizzy42OH Před 11 lety

    i have the same year and model of car, how did you fix your no crank problem. i connected the two big wires like the video says and it cranks but doesnt kick over. is it the coils??

  • @04snopro
    @04snopro Před 11 lety

    hey froggy... i have a 98 e36 my fuel pump turns on. but i still have a no crank issue. new battery and the dash lights turn on when the key is turned on. but nothing happens. no clicks or anything. any ideas?

  • @valeri8585
    @valeri8585 Před 12 lety

    I do have the same problem with my BMW 320d E46 2001,do you think that if I do the same thing to mine it will work?Thanks

  • @devin876
    @devin876 Před 12 lety

    same problem man, no fuel and no spark, no sure how to bypass thought id see if you found something i didn't. lmk thanks

  • @1947froggy
    @1947froggy  Před 11 lety

    Not silly, yes that is all I did. Good luck. Something on the ews circuit board goes bad & this will bypass it.
    :)

  • @Chris151ish
    @Chris151ish Před 12 lety

    Greetings Froggy. I followed this procedure on my 97' 318is. The key was broken and I now have a key without any chip. Before I followed your video my dash would light up as normal and then nothing. Now I hear that clicking sound when i bounce the starter but no tumble. Any suggestions as to what it may be?

  • @1947froggy
    @1947froggy  Před 11 lety

    Not really, only the model year I did. They changed it a LOT year to year.

  • @1947froggy
    @1947froggy  Před 11 lety

    Not sure what more I can do, the vid describes all that I did to remove EWS2 from the security system.

  • @Gatoguapo26
    @Gatoguapo26 Před 11 lety

    you right bro i did the ews by pass and still the same issue let me explain the problem that i just saw so at cranking there is no spark but if we press the gas pedal like three times eventually it wil fire up and give out spark weird right any way ill post more results latter and thanks for t quick response froggy