Honda EPS SAS Torque Sensor Relearn: DANGEROUS Steering Fix! | Fit, Civic, CR-V... RESET/RELEARN
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- EPS module relearn procedure in many modern and dated Honda vehicles including Fit, City, Civic, Accord, CR-V, S2000 and more. Great knowledge for rack replacements, after alignments etc. These Honda EPS systems are known to be hazardous often failing intermittently or all together on the roadway other times beginning to pull left/right with extreme momentum on it's own. At this point i'm surprised Honda has not recalled these racks in their entirety before things become much worse as a whole after catching up once the NHTSA gets involved considering their recent blunders including park brake failures causing high speed freeway multi car pile ups and other accidents.
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Literally life saver thanks for this video!!
Great video! Thanks for sharing this information. Do you think this will also work on a honda jazz III (2012)?
Thank you so much for this tip! I actually found I had to hold the wheel at 45 degrees while turning the key to get the procedure to start. I'm pretty sure it worked as I got two quick flashes of the EPS light on completion, and the steering feels better now (a little lighter and more responsive).
Anytime, always happy to help im glad it corrected the issue you were having.
45 degrees to the left?
Wow thank you so much for making this video! You saved me hundreds maybe thousands of dollars. I have a 2009 Honda civic dxg and it worked great, the only thing I had to do differently was turn the steering wheel left at 45 degrees before I turned the key to the on position. I hope this helps someone else. Thanks again, God bless
Glad to hear I could be of assistance! I hope others with the same vehicle see your comment for reference ending up with the same outcome.
Thanks for watching!
I got so excited with your comment...I just tried it on mine, I didn't work, still pulls strongly to the left, thanks for sharing though ..is helping others
@@luciaguilera7068 my car was a 2009 Honda civic 2 door coup manual transmission. Don't feel too bad my car just got smashed by a garbage truck, total wright off! It could always be worse. 😂 God bless and good luck
I have a 03 civic si with the k20a3 will this work for me
Worked on a 2006 civic si coupe.. cel flashed twice instead of the power steering light but worked for me. ( i replaced the eps module with a working one didn’t work until i did this procedure first tho ! Checked the fuse and grounds before I pulled eps unit.
Can someone assist honda fit shuttle torque sensor socket did cut the three wires and am confused how to arrange the wires
2008 Honda Fit. I attempted the torque sensor relearn procedure, with the front wheels on the ground. After jumping the OBD #4 and #9 pins, then turning the key to the "on position", the dash EPS light did not light continuously as described / shown in the video. Instead, the light flashed once, followed by two flashes (all three flashes were the same duration), then repeated this flash-sequence continuously. As a result, the balance of the relearn procedure could not be executed. Can anyone provide insight or otherwise advise me on this ? Thank you.
Is it work on honda city 2011?
Great video. Same issue with my 07 fit. Steering wheel turns left with no driver input. I noticed that my steering wheel needs to be turned a few degrees right when driving straight with the under-hood 60A # 2 fuse pulled.. Would this screw up the relearn process when centering the wheel during relearn?
It shouldn’t since the SAS (steering angle sensor) is inside the steering wheel itself. The fact your wheel is off some while driving is an alignment issue no doubt. Definitely worth getting checked out since this can cause excessive uneven tire wear often times quite quickly. It could be the result of meeting a few to many large potholes on the roadway or even worn suspension components and bushings which should definitely be checked for prior to having the vehicle aligned.
@@combustiontherapy2222 Unfortunately my 07 fit could not relearn the torque sensor.. When I jumpered 4 to 9 and powered up, the torque sensor relearn light flashed three short flash's followed by a longer forth flash over and over.
So I removed the 60A EPS fuse and all is good. No need for a gym membership either..
I assume my torque sensor relearn lights will stay lit until I replace the fuse, which will never happen because new struts , rack and install cost more than the 1800 I paid for it.
Mine doesnt let me do the relearn as the light as soon as i hit acc turn on doesnt blink or anything it just stays on
I have replace a steering wheel sensor toqrue /angle but after that as soon i start the car steering wheel go to the left by himself i drive the car like that in the left side is pretty easy but on the right is very hard to pull when i stop the engine shut down steering wheel returns in some position is this method you performed can help to set steering wheel in zero position toq and angl position thanks
Did the procedure in the video fix your issue?
It worked bro
Sweet happy to help!
Worked on my 2012 Honda civic lx didn’t do the pin hot wire just the recalibration with the light on and went away
Will this jumperless method also work on civic FB 2.0 2014? (Asian model)
Will this jumperless method also work on civic FB 2.0 2014? (Asian model)
In my case I have 2023 Toyota Camry when you turn the key on yellow steering wheel with exclamation point comes on and then when you start the engine it disappears is that normal.
Yes this is a bulb check that you’ll see most vehicles complete it shows if a bulb such as the check engine light has failed.
I need help with my 2005 honda civic eps system i change the rack and steering still hard and eps light still on
Same here I put a new eps motor from bronx Honda and same issue I’m having, locks up while driving. 😢
The vehicle requires the new rack be programmed.
Do the wheels need to be in the air to perform this? Or can leave them on the ground?
Kinda late but imma do mine in the air. I'll let you know if it worked
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@@katdaddy469 better to do them on the ground
@@philipeon2831still waiting
Will this work for 2009 Honda civic si?
This is what I was looking for, my 2007 civic si eps comes and goes. Help
Will this same procedure work for the 8th Gen Civic Si model?
Yes the 8th gen Si uses an electric rack, this relearn might remedy your issue if you're lucky
How did it go on ur car?
I’m gonna try this tomorrow on my 2007 civic so hopefully it fixes my issue.
Did anyone try this with the Civic SI 8TH Gen successfully?
Hi, is the pin position the same as the right-hand drive jazz fit?
Yes, To knowledge the OBD2 pinout is the same.
Thank you, sir! Works like magic. It was not bad as what you had on video, mine was a bit heavy to turn. Like and subsribe for sure! Greetings from Indonesia.
@@tivanolebang Halo om, apakah masalah ini bikin stir sprti agak narik ke satu sisi pas jalan padahal spooring lurus smua?
Hey first off thanks. I had absolutely no issues with my 2013 accord and was having my tires rotated and an alignment performed. I left the mechanic and noticed my steering felt stiff, just ignored it and chalked it up to tire wear. Then while stopping and parked it began the steering wheel began to turn hard to the right. Took to same mechanic and they're now quoting me $2k+ for a rack repair. Wouldn't they have attempted a torque sensor relearn right away? Or is that not common practice. Thanks a lot
Most places will suggest a new rack right away since that is likely the long term solution.
My wife bought a cvr 2017 in Honduras to Excel Automotriz
After only 45k kilometers the steering rack has failed and it has to be replaced for an aproximate cost of 6500 dollars
Verry disapointed with the brand, and now that i have investigated i found out that there is a lot of people having problems with Honda steering racks both hydraulic and electric
I will stay away from Honda
How did you end up fixing the issue? I have a civic 2008 that has the exact same issue, the pull to left is so hard that it takes so much force to bring it back in the middle. Also, as the vehicle speeds up, the steering wheel starts to feel lighter (left pull force reduces and steering can be controlled with one hand but still goes to left if let go). I'm not sure if I need to replace the rack and pinion or if this is an eps module issue.
A temporary solution is to pull the EPS fuse which alleviates the safety concern of the vehicle leaving the road if your hands left the steering wheel for any reason. This however doesn’t actually fix the issue of course, it is worth attempting a SAS relearn however the EPS module generally doesn’t lose its calibration for no reason and is generally the result of damage to the rack itself wether self inflicted or not. Unfortunately a rack replacement is usually in order at which time the SAS relearn will be completed regardless. You’re likely to find a good rack in a wrecking yard if you have time and don’t mind turning a wrench or even try scouring for a vehicle being parted out. You might come across someone plucking parts themselves for sale. Cheers
@@combustiontherapy2222 Thanks for the heads up. I will try removing the fuse to see what it does. My only concern is that if the EPS module itself is faulty then even replacing the rack will be useless. Hence, I'll probably need to make sure eps module is good. Btw, I sill couldn't find the exact location for the eps module, I think it is on the passenger side pillar but not sure. It is a dx-g model. Do you think if I find an eps replacement module that would be a good candidate for resolving this issue?
@@haseebtehsin9923 Personally I would find it hard to point to the module but it is possible, in my experience it’s been the rack every time
@@combustiontherapy2222 sounds good, I'll get a quote for changing the rack as well after I try some of the tricks. Thanks so much.
@@haseebtehsin9923 Hey, I have this same issue on my 2007 honda civic hybrid. Pulls super hard left and hard to turn right. Any update on the issue? would love to know if you fixed it or found a solution.
Has anyone done this on a CR-Z?
Can the same procedure use for a 2009 honda civic fd2
Yes this can be used to calibrate the steering angle sensor
Shorting these pins at the OBD connector should enter service mode, the process itself however varies slightly from vehicle to vehicle... The flashing following the correct procedure will indicate a successful calibration.
Will this work on my civic 2007 i dont get any codes my problem is i have hard steerring when turning right only.
In your case if the vehicle has EPS it may help however the problem is likely within the steering rack itself and should be diagnosed professionally.