PoE Necropolis Might Break Me
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- čas přidán 26. 03. 2024
- So Path of Exile Necropolis is just around the corner and it's a great opportunity for us to go over what I'm excited about the game and what scares me ... like a LOT!
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you dont need to catch up, you just need to have fun
exactly this, took me 3-4 leagues to "catch up" but it came naturally, there is no need to force learn the whole game at once
@@spitfire3949 Same for me. After few leagues I started messing with essences and fossils and so on. Tho I still craft only simple stuff myself and rest buy from others.
Yep. This.
I'd put forth the argument that perseverance and effort are rewarded in this game, so you definitely want to know that it pays off to keep on reading and digesting the game at your own pace. You have to look at what's on the other side of the wall to know you even want to climb in the first place.
This is because "fun" can mean a lot of different things, including (but not limited to) mastering and taking on difficult challenges.
6,000 hours in and I learned 3 new things about crafting this last league. It never ceases to amaze me.
Yea im at 5k and I just started making my own builds without following guides in ancestor league and its really opened my mind to what is really possible in this game
@@yimwee2401same. Once you discover the "pattern" to placing points in the tree, it gets much easier to at least not brick your build.
@@yimwee2401 i broke 5k hours this league and learned so much this league. i've been playing since prophecy and i still have so much to learn. sadly i'm not making my own builds yet cause it scares me and i still don't have crafting down as well as i'd like before that
That's exactly why i love this game. I've been playing continuously since december 2012 and I still learn new things all the time.
No idea about the hours sunk in PoE though, maybe for the better, because I always played on the standalone client.
You’re not too late at all. My advice is lean into the stuff you know while leveling and when you’re ready to mess with the league mechanic really embrace grinding it because we are all going to be learning about THIS crafting method at the same time.
This is a voice we need in PoE. I started many years ago and I wish there were channels this back then. New players need to see that it is ok to learn as they go.
Everyone is welcome!
Love GGGs communication with the players.. Zizaran interviewed Mark Roberts last night and it was so chill. Mark was just talking from his heart.. didnt feel like pr speak at all. Explained his thoughts really well
This is why I think we all love this game. Great communication from a team that loves their game. Even when they screw up, we don't really seem too bothered as a community. They just try to fix it instead of making excuses.
As long as it lasts. Hopefully they won't hire any HR cretins that force them to hire people on criteria other than competence, or has them fire competent people due to nonsense.
mark is a just a god and similar to most if not all the ggg employees and its a shame that chris has had to be the only figure head infront of the camera for so long because chris got all the love but he got all the hate too. this decision to bring more heads infront of the camera is wonderful.
the new T17 map Bosses are "reused" but not rly, they are old league bosses that you can still fight right now but are now uber with upgraded and new mechanics and attacks so its gonne be realy fun trying them out.
Crafting is easier than what it seems. The iceberg is not that deep but it is wide. There are a lot of options, there are a lot of rule to know, but once your settled on those crafting is actually easy.
Now Necropolis crafting will be another beast. It will allow to craft complete item from the corpses but also base for normal crafting. It does add complexity but don't be affraid, everyone will have to learn the new system.
Also some quite good ressource to craft:
- craft of exile
- poedb (top learn and check the different mod, their family and at what level and odd they spawn)
- any crafting guide for any item, it allows you to learn method and ways of crafting
just here to push the algorithm. good luck in the next league.
i second this, deserved.
Even veteran players can feel overwhelmed by the volume of content in the game. You're not too late at all
I started playing PoE really late into Affliction so I'm excited to start in a fresh league. I managed to complete the Atlas and get 2 voidstones before I ran out of time. I'm looking forward to pushing a build into the end game and better utilizing the crafting knowledge that I learned in my first league. Appreciate the videos. Thanks Nyx!
Go for it bud. Dont stop now. Love your videos and would like to keep watching them as you progress on your goals.
Love your videos! It's been so much fun to watch you learn these systems and have fun in the game
Looking forward to seeing your videos / progression and evolving as a PoE enjoyer during 3.24!
I learned a bit of crafting by looking at the various options of craft of exile. In general it boils down to there are lots of ways to craft an item and you want to find the most efficient one by mixing different available options:
- fossil crafting combines different items that alter the chances of different mod tags. For example if you wanted to target an item with multiple affixes with the "chaos" tag fossils would likely be a good option. They are also usually good to hit very rare affixes by eliminating everything else. There is a calculator on craft of exile to optimize the choice of fossils given the targeted affixes.
- beast crafting: beside some options for mirror tier craft you only have to remember that there is a craft that removes a prefix to add a suffix and viceversa
- essence crafting: guarantees a particular affix based on the chosen essence. In general great for mid tier crafts where you want a particular essence affix.
- harvest crafting: most valuable craft removes affix to add an another affix with a chosen tag. Used to target affixes after blocking other possible options to increase the chances of hitting them.
- betrayal crafting: remove random affix and replace it with veiled one. Similar to harvest crafting but instead of using a tagged affix you get a veiled one.
- eldrich crafting: very powerful and cheap but only available for body armour, boots and helmet. Adds eldrich implicits to an item and allows you to manipulate either prefixes or suffixes independently.
- influence crafting: influenced items have additional affixes that can roll. You can have up to two influences on an item. Influences and eldrich are exclusive.
- metacrafting: applies modifiers to items that alter the way crafts work on them with the bench. To put it briefly you can benchcraft a prefix that fixes the suffixes of the item or a suffix that fixes the prefixes. There is also the option to preserve affixes with the caster and attack tag. That's pretty much it.
- regular crafting: you mostly wanna remember that you can cheaply roll affixes on a magic item with alterations, add affixes with exalted and remove single affixes with annul or roll everything with chaos
About crafting: I'm currently at 1.300+ hrs and I also never bothered too much about crafting. Whenever I need an item, I buy it 🤷
If I were you, I would treat the necropolis crafting as its own thing. We do not know how it interacts with any of the other crafting systems, but it looks separate. Think of it like Rog 2.0
I think what you will do for the most part is:
- collect monsters
- bury corpses that kinda fit together ( this is what you will have to learn)
- create the item
And that item should be basically done at this point (maybe you add a bench craft).
You do not have to understand, meta crafting, fossils, harvest, beast crafting, expedition crafting to learn and use Necropolis crafting.
995.7 hrs in! I am seriously with you here but hopefully we'll figure it out
You had me at setting goals 💙, that's what I did when I started playing, I didn't finish most of the content on my first league and now I able to defeat ubers, I still cannot make my own builds thou, only modify existing ones :(
Just learn two crafting systems/league. Learn the new league first (Necropolis) and then add one more later in the league (Example: Harvest). Don't need to catch up in one league.
Every time I play a new build I try to craft as much of the gear as I reasonably can and over the years this has led to a lot of accumulated knowledge. Trying to learn everything at once is daunting and even I dont know nearly everything.
The Tier 17 map bosses are only reused in the sense that attacks maybe similar. As shown in the trailers the bosses have new or changed mechanics from their base game counterparts. These fights will largely be new even for veteran players!
Looking forward to watching you play Necropolis :)
Thank you!
I was in a similar situation as you i remember, one of the first leagues i played was not only a crafting league but THE crafting league, Harvest. i remember thinking the same thing about learning crafting this league, though i quickly got overwhelmed and more tried to learn crafting through osmosis where i would watch content to learn about the game and crafting was one of the many things I would look for to learn about. For me at least i think unless i devoted everything i did with the game back then to learn crafting i dont think i could have done it in a 3 month time frame.
Pretty good takes , nice to see yet another good level headed creator covering my favorite game.
I 100% agree that setting your own goals in PoE is the best way to enjoy it. It lets you play at your own pace, and achieve what you can do while having fun. My first league the goal was reaching t16 maps. Next league was completing the atlas. Then beat Sirus.
At that time, Sirus was the hardest boss, so the next league my goal was to farm a mirror and thanks to the old Betrayal Research strategy farm, it was easily done. Then it was beating all the uber bosses, probably the most fun goal.
This league I want to fight this t17 maps and maybe craft something cool in the graveyard.
Great Video. Thanks for that!
Thanks for the video. And the delay onto POE2 we really dont mind cause we know it will be great ! :D
Marks story is so inspiring starting off in q/a then rising through the ranks to become a game director
The beauty of Poe's stratification of knowledge resides in the way these different layers of players with different levels ingame knowledge interact
GL for everyone in the league start! 😃👍
id recommend looking at the blink arrow/mirror arrow builds for next league. kinda minion. kinda bow. very strong
Halloween came early this year! It's gonna be dope digging graves
In terms of goals, PoE's league challenges are pretty nice-beyond providing achievements to work towards, they often teach/notion towards exploring new forms of content, crafting, or recipes. I've learned a ton from just figuring out how to approach them in SSF each league, even if some are grindfests. I highly recommend poking around at them.
GGG constantly changes how crafting functions in the game, someone who didn't play for the last 2 years is probably in very similar shoes as you are right now going into the next league. It's daunting but they are passionate. Most things in trade leagues cost way more if you buy it outright as a final item. Getting into endgame gear crafting may sound harder than ubers but it isn't that bad, and once you learn how to craft you can join us in SSF >:).
just have fun with the game and don't worry about catching up mate
My advice:
Just have fun and learn bit by bit. You don't have to dive to all crafting depths just to have more money. Fun is the first. And you can earn "money" ny doing whatever you like. Bossing, just t14+ mapping with guard map drops, double corrupt incursions, MF, beasts, bulk selling essences , etc, etc.
Second advice: don't get yourself bored by doing something so called "effective" or "profitable".
For instance, i like when i find 1 abyss in 3-4 maps i run. If i find an abyss like in every map - i quickly become annoyed by backtracking of these cracks and that's about everything. I like harvest, but doing it every map kinda annoys me with waiting for monsters to pop up. Incursions - BaCk iN tIMe and you wait for like 3 or 4 seconds why why :d i love it when it's rare, it's cool even to have these breaks, but every map.. dude, I'd drop poe in a few evenings 😅
dont worry too much about learning everything all together, u will come across some crafting questions, specially if u are doing a new build, and little by little u will find ur answers, while still having fun and adding to ur knowledge about the game
there is this beautiful thing with poe witch is called carelessly blasting maps and that involve just blasting maps while rly caring about one or two league mechanics and you ll naturally get other resources from other mechanics so lets say I focus for a week on expedition and not rly cared about anything else at the end of the week i ll still have a thousand corpse to craft with from the new league mechanics and that's the beauty of poe to not rly be punished for disregarding certain things
so just try to experience evry league mechanics and things in the game like crafting or trading and when you've pretty much done all just choose one or two things you rly like to do and enjoy them as much as you want and learn the game little by little and that's were poe is so good bc if you are ready to put the time you ll never be punished or will forced to do something you can just chilling and do whatever you feel like and if what you feel like is to go play another game bc you don't enjoy the league anymore you can just do that and you can comeback next league or the league after that and have as much if not more fun as the the previous league
Maybe you could do a co-lab with another content creator. I saw a video awhile back where Darth Microtransaction got a crafting tutorial from GhazzyTV, it was fun. I'd suggest a specific project like upgrading your boots or weapon. When you have a morgue full of bodies and a pile of currency reach out to Zizaran, ZiggyD or Ghazzy i bet they would love to show you the ropes.
I think that if you have Craft of exile open in a tab, you can create good items with the new mechanic, as you will know the weights etc. it will not need to know the intrinsic parts of the current crafting strategies
Played for 10,000 hours and I can say that as long as you’re having fun, it’s more fun to learn new things. There were leagues where I didn’t have a clear goal in mind and just have fun at my own pace. Other leagues where I would be at endgame farming pinnacle bosses 2-3 days into league start. My point is, don’t worry about what everyone else’s doing, prioritize having fun and you’ll feel like login in more often than playing catch up with others. Keep up the good work.
Great Video!
Your not too late, when I first got back into it I didn’t even look at the season mechanics for like 2 seasons haha
your never too late. that's the beauty of seasonal content. it's a reset. souls crafting items? HOW DO? well... no one knows. your right there with everyone else.
For me I just need to set some goals every league. It might not about crafting or some old mechanics I don't understand but probably related to the build I'm making. I may or may not try to kill all the bosses and choose just some of them. I guess I cannot control how much I do not know/understand about the game, but I can control what mechanics I want to learn and enjoy
I wouldn't worry too much about it. The league itself is a good way to learn the mechanic; screw around with it during the Campaign, then try getting more serious with it during maps. You know the basics of what modifiers are 'good' and not, so you should be able to pick up on the new mechanics pretty fast.
From my perspective Nyx, learning new stuff every league is what PoE is all about. You are never too late, you just experienced and learn different things compare to anyone, but with thousands of hours into this game, I still learn stuff and that's what excite me every league. the new 5% of knowledge you will learn next league will be what this game is all about imho. Maybe you will be try to set a goal of crafting an item and do a collab with a content creator to learn what are the steps to do so. Most people in PoE love to work towards an item goal aswell.
This crafting system is entirely standalone so you don't need to catch up at all, we'll all be jumping in fresh together!
Crafting is pretty insane at this point and there are a ton of guides for how to make specific items but getting a feel for the entirety of it is definitely daunting, but as long as you're in trade it's not necessarily vital at least.
The trick with staying up to date is to simply not worry about it. Odds are, someone else is doing a similar craft and you can look at discussions and tutorials to find the optimal way of doing that particular craft. Eventually you start to come up with your approach based on trends and past experiences. You start forming habits like checking for the possibility of blocking mods with ilvl, or if it is cheaper to buy a fractured base that eliminates the need to roll the most difficult mod. Most leagues I feel a degree of FOMO with crafting and mapping beforehand, but it always works out and it's more about how you adapt throughout the league that affects the result.
In it's core Path of Exile is like a Single Player game with online Economy. You are never too late to start learning it as there is little to no incentive to be amongst the first. Crafting is something that many people are not familiar with even with thousands of hours because the option to just buy the item off the market exists with the currency farmed by doing what you enjoy the most in the game.
This league exactly what you need because you will learn crafting way easier and faster due to: 1) a lot of practice - you gonna craft craft craft using league mechanic 2) everyone will craft and talk about craft on CZcams and Twitch so it’s easy to learn time. So good luck and have a nice league start!
For understanding this crafting league you dont need to look at the other methods like expedition and just concentrate on the Grave crafting itself and you'll be fine.
im more or less new to i dont follow any build guids or somethink and im happy for the new season we dont need to know all shit u will learn more and more just have fun
GGG fully embraced their content creators over the years, knowing that's one of their best links directly to the playerbase. Look back at Exilecon this year or last year and the whole thing is MC'd by the sort of "Core" team of PoE content creators. It's so unusual that this is unusual, it makes so much sense to be interacting directly with the most popular members of your community, people whose livelihoods depend on your game not being shit.
On the crafting, I've been playing since beta and I don't really "Get" crafting. Essences are about as far as I'll go. Necropolis so far looks closer to Delve's crafting mechanic with deterministic "Suggestions" through the corpses and even though I've never bothered much with fossils, this could be a very good place to get started with crafting. I'm planning to play semi-ssf myself to try and encourage myself to craft more of my own gear, hoping this will give me a bit of a better understanding of it.
Ive been playing this game for 11 years now, still have trouble with high end crafting, as long as you have fun you're doing it right
As someone who has only really started the game in Affliction, this league sounds amazing to me. I might finally have decent gear for once, instead of the usual "pick off the ground, craft life/res, done" which I have been doing the entire time so far.
when i started playing i never felt like i had to catch up so i think getting some taste tests of the leagues you havent done yet is all you need. im 1.6k hours in and pretty much only know how or care to know about crafting is just what im playing that league or set of chars. and thats pretty much how to craft trinity ele gear lol
I think its a Great possibility to learn more about craftong because the crafting with the new League should not be that complicated
You didn't arrive too late. You arrived just at the right time to enjoy
Welcome to community 😊
My issue, as with every league, is picking a starter without knowing whether i'll get stuck as usual
When it comes to crafting, I still have no idea what to do. So I just play the content I like and save whatever mats drop. When I'm ready to do the crafting, I'll have resources built up waiting for me.
hyped for friday
@Nyx goodluck in the mext league. i suggest plan your own build before going to
campaign haha
My recommendation is: use Essences and Necropolis while in the campaign and as you progress through maps, lean more into Necropolis since the top end gear you can make from it seems very high. If you're feeling adventurous during the league, then you can explore Delve Fossils, Einhar Beast crafts, Expedition Rog crafting, meta shenanigans, etc. but again Necropolis seems like a great semi-deterministic crafting system that could *potentially* outperform some older systems!
I Play since ultimatum 3.14 and still feel like a baby exile. My objective every league is to find a build that is cool (fleshy and fast in my case) and feel rewarding to upgrade. Nothing is better for me than tweak something in the build and thinking to myself "NOW we are doing business", and I love how PoE gives you the freedom to do the tinkering needed.
Good luck everyone for the new league !
It took me 15 different characters to at least lvl 40 and one character to end game. Then another two league characters up to lvl 60 to finally kind of understand gear,talent tree, and so on. Probably about 200-300hrs in but I still don't get crafting 😂
solo self found softcore all bosses / invitations down is a good challenge which you cannot trivialize with trading because of ssf, i highly suggest that
No better place to learn than when every one in the community also has to learn with you, even if they have some knowledge about the typical systems already. You might not know how to go for a +2 amulet or how to craft a good trigger wand, but you know (presumably) that an armor piece with high life, res, and spell suppress is a good item. Plus I'm sure someone will happily teach or link you a video of how to do some of these things.
P.S. the +2 amulet craft I learned from a ziz video :p game is too big for one person to know it all, but a community can get close enough
Don't worry about catching up, just have fun.
Don't worry about the crafting aspects too much. Even though I love POE I don't really like crafting too much in this game, and I frequently opt to 'craft' my items using Rog. This league seems to be similar in nature (more like a combination of Rog plus delve fossils).
And that's the real thing with POE. You don't actually have to do all the content. Probably 99% of the players can't actually do all the content with any one build. You pick the mechanics you like and/or are good at, and do those, and sell the extra stuff you don't need for currency to buy the stuff to complete your build.
4500 hours in and I Crafted endgame gear but always by following guided steps. I always forget the possibilities and steps of the high end. It's very complicated to remember. I always call myself still noob in certain aspects even after playing for so long, but I'm always having fun thats for sure.
You should try SSF. With your current knowledge you will be able to craft good enough gear to beat non-ubers. It's a bit more challenging, but you will enjoy much more the "crafting/gambling" aspects of PoE.
A league like necropolis in my opinion is the best time to learn crafting. This league mechanic is new to everyone, so no matter what player you are (from fresh install to mirror crafter), there's something new to learn about crafting.
Nyx saying upper dark stuff about being a Gravedigger and his avatar being super cute is so funny
I really hope you play the league start in a guild. It makes it sooo much better.
This will be my fourth league and honestly, I've spent very little time with any of current content in the previous three (Crucible, ToTA and Affliction). I've explored them enough to get a basic understanding of what they're all about, but I've been spending most of my time each league trying to understand core systems and just get better in general. I was only able to obtain 2 voidstones in my first league and then 4 in my second, while in Affliction I focused on trying to complete those bosses without dying (or dying as little as possible). Ultimately, my goals are to be able to kill the ubers, become proficient enough to play SSF more regularly (I've made a few HCSSF characters so far), make a build on my own that's good enough to kill the pinnacles and have a much deeper understanding of all the core league content and crafting options.
Essentially, I never feel pressured to "keep up" or participate heavily in the most current content because the base game alone is so good and there's still much to learn there. I think your viewers will be happy to see you continue learning, even if that means you aren't engaging much with "grave crafting." :)
This league is a good chance to really try the league content out in full, since its the first league since I think betrayal where your going to be forced to interact in every single map.
When setting goals for the next League I think it's important to not overload yourself with them. Understanding the crafting system is one of the goals that are way way way too big. Over the course of the last two leagues I learned how to craft basic gear for myself that will take me to 4 voidstones. I now also know how mirror crafts are made and some tricks that are very powerful but situational (by watching spicysushi and empyrian). Still I feel like I'm just getting started. If you want advise on wether you should look into necropolis crafting or not- I think for this league you can just decide between necropolis crafting and core crafting because the two are rather disconnected. In necropolis you can appearently get multiple fractures so if you want to get into that, don't worry about the rest of crafting. If you want to go into next league with more knowledge than in this one, you can largely ignore necropolis crafting and either sell corpses or dump them into random crafts and maybe you will get something usable.
I think you can try the league mechanics (because you can't avoid it, every area has it regardless if you interact with the lantern or not) and if it doesn't click to you, there's a huge amount of content that you may have felt that 'fun' from your last playthrough like Incursion, Blight, etc. You can focus on that instead and just ignore the Necropolis. Some leagues do that to you where you feel everyone is so excited except you.
Hey Nyx ! Looking forward to your journey in necropolis , have you decided what build you gonna run ? After looking for (and failing) a reaper build (proper leveling and not just endgame variant with all the unique items) , would love to see you try minion build :)
Dont feel bad.. Ive been playing this since it was on a browser and every league i still dont know anything
I recomendo trying minions they are getting alot of love
the monsters arent knew on tier 17 , but they have new and enhanced mechanics , se they will be like new bosses for all of us
Personally, I think Ill focus on upgrading my character and getting through the atlas and voidstones without worrying too much about the new crafting league mechanic. It would probably be too much to handle for me as this is going to be my 3rd league.
Necropolis crafting looks cool
"I love the idea of becoming a grave digger burying bodies in a cemetery" 👀👀
new season, definitely not late :) i play since beta and every season fells like new game, as others said, it about having fun
somewhat scared is right where you wanna be brother lets gooo
I don't think there's much to catch up to. Because this mechanic is new to everyone, and most likely you'll craft full items with it.
Actual advanced crafting that comes to mind is to craft an item with open suffix/prefix and use tainted currency for example, but that's already for fewer people, than most of us.
You couldn't have started POE at a better time in its history. And this being your proper first league start, oh boy, enjoy it. For most of us launch day and the lead up to it feel like Christmas and our birthday combined, that childish sense of anticipation and wonder that very rarely you get to experience as an adult.
the crafting mechanic is not really a new layer of crafting but alternative way to craft so knowledge of other crafting systems are irrelevant (unless you are a crafting pro and you know how to use them to push the item even further with old crafting systems). It will be a fun way for people that don't normally craft to try and craft something without needing the knowledge of previous systems.
I haven't been over 18 challenges in like 4 years, I haven't killed a single uberboss since they were released, I just play the league untill I don't have fun. My only goal this league is to make somewhat working golemancer elementalist in ssf which is something I wanted to do for a few leagues now and also try the new transfigured tornado gem because it seems cool. PoE really isn't a game I would ever try to go for 40/40 challenges anymore because it just takes too much time. My atlas this league start will be just unwavering vision rush and then all the master nodes because I find it funny to have all four masters in every map (don't do this you will hate yourself people).
Goodluck on the league folks
my goal is to go as deep as i can into delve and also do as much from the new Necopolis mechanics
It's true what they say about crafting :P I got 10k hours in the game, and even I don't know everything. Definitely use craft of exile to figure out what the best options are to craft the affixes you want. If you don't know how it works, you can for example select 3 affixes you want, then you can select fossils or essence, etc. Then it will tell you the best combination of fossils and the average attempts and cost. I have watched big crafting streamers and even they will ask chat what the best options are some times.
Imo, the poe community has fully embraced the scientific method. We don't try to reinvent the wheel, we build on top of the effort of giants. We learn from our elders and peers and move forward, accepting change (albeit not without ruckus in many occasions). This I believe is the most fun community to be a part of in the gaming sphere. As for content creators, there's a flavour for every taste, and I'm really happy you managed to develop yours and entice that large a number. Push forward always!
It's never to late to get into crafting and it's complexity. I have over 2,000 hours into poe and I didn't even learn crafting till about 800 hours in.
Playing since 2013..I'm scared too
I'm in this game 4000h and 3.23 i finished first time all content, with all bosses and ueber bosses and I do not crafting, never, I do not like crafting. But... I never done delve 1000 or 5000 😅 so there is more to explore every single league
That's awesome haha