Can Former NAVY SEALS Convince a Former GREEN BERET to Switch to Sig Sauer - PART 1

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  • Find out what happens when Navy Seals train a Green Beret. Fieldcraft Survival CEO and Former Green Beret, Mike Glover is joined by Former Navy Seals and Founders of GBRS Group, Cole Fackler and DJ Shipley, to learn another perspective on the transition from a Glock pistol to a Sig Sauer pistol. DJ and Cole discuss differences in the trigger reset, weight considerations when driving the gun out, and visual attraction that made them choose that specific gun.
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  • @blakeheiss4017
    @blakeheiss4017 Před 2 lety +970

    DJ has such a good way of explaining everything this dude embodies professionalism

    • @anthonyj5298
      @anthonyj5298 Před 2 lety +16

      and weird to see his face haha

    • @barrysmith916
      @barrysmith916 Před 2 lety +11

      Common sense plus experience , and the drive to teach others. We get the benefit of top tier training. Thanks guys . Respect.

    • @longshanks5531
      @longshanks5531 Před 2 lety +5

      DJ and bob keller are my heroes

    • @matth22
      @matth22 Před 2 lety +32

      his podcast w Shawn Ryan is absolutely amazing. highly recommend if you haven't seen/listened already. Really raw stuff

    • @empunk
      @empunk Před 2 lety +9

      @@matth22 Shawn's podcasts are hands down the best around right now!

  • @bigd2829
    @bigd2829 Před rokem +89

    If a tier one guy is out because they’re medically retired, you know they’ve done a few things and are serious business. Words cannot describe how thankful I am for guys like these, thank you.

    • @nickgomez6272
      @nickgomez6272 Před 11 měsíci +9

      Yup , met a 100 % disabled vet, you couldn't tell by looking at him, but he was one of a few survivors of a huge ied blast that had hit his humvee. Totally destroyed his back and mind.

    • @peroz007
      @peroz007 Před 5 měsíci

      😅😂

    • @mattcam200577
      @mattcam200577 Před měsícem

      The height of professionalism DJ and Cole.

  • @kurtco.397
    @kurtco.397 Před 2 lety +155

    Cole stands there like the office supervisor trying to get his team back to work when lunch was over five minutes ago and everyone's still standing there smoking and joking... love it!

    • @MM-qi5mk
      @MM-qi5mk Před 11 měsíci +3

      Hahahaha that is a perfect explanation

  • @binko969
    @binko969 Před 2 lety +439

    Just got done watching DJ’s interview with Shawn Ryan. Wow unbelievable. To lay everything out on the table & be 100% open and honest and put it out there for everyone to see/judge takes huge balls. Thanks guys!

    • @Donlewis4683
      @Donlewis4683 Před 2 lety +6

      I also just got done watching the interview. 4 hours went by like nothing

    • @fotulj
      @fotulj Před 2 lety +9

      My god yes, that was some heavy shit. Such a fucking legend

    • @sleepincoyote9602
      @sleepincoyote9602 Před 2 lety +2

      That interview was 🔥🔥🔥. DJ kept it 💯

    • @doriannoonan584
      @doriannoonan584 Před 2 lety +5

      I watched all 4 hours of it. Shawn Ryan let's people talk. Heroes!!

    • @onefodderunit
      @onefodderunit Před rokem

      All that sacrifice for the Zionist entity.

  • @dodsonarmsco
    @dodsonarmsco Před 2 lety +204

    Pick the gun that fits you, is reliable, and do not listen to all the people pushing a specific gun. Most people pushing a specific gun have a financial reason to do so.

    • @lisaclark6977
      @lisaclark6977 Před 2 lety +11

      100% correct

    • @glennr8787
      @glennr8787 Před 2 lety +9

      @@lisaclark6977 Agreed

    • @Repomam2000
      @Repomam2000 Před 2 lety +9

      Arguably true.

    • @leokelly359
      @leokelly359 Před 2 lety +9

      you are 100% correct this past summer I chose a conceal carry gun. laid 3 out and I chose one by feel from my wheelchair. due to being a functional quad, weight played a big part in what I chose. I was looking for a semi auto to compliment my EDC 38 snub

    • @mrwoody1413
      @mrwoody1413 Před 10 měsíci +1

      I am 5’6” with pretty small hands about 7 inches from the base of my palm to the end of my middle finger.. idk if you know anything about this but what handgun do you think would work good for me. I’d like to be able to conceal carry it and keep in mind that I’m a very thin body type

  • @JayDubb3BCT
    @JayDubb3BCT Před 2 lety +730

    Mike, DJ & Cole together in one room is a priceless treasure trove of knowledge! Be a sponge ladies & gentleman!

    • @jakem4579
      @jakem4579 Před 2 lety +7

      🧽 🧠

    • @bon-a-petite9224
      @bon-a-petite9224 Před 2 lety +4

      You could also tell they didn't like each other in the beginning of the video lol

    • @peady64
      @peady64 Před 2 lety +1

      Amen Brother.

    • @justinm.791
      @justinm.791 Před 2 lety +4

      @Jay Dubb Agreed. @Bartman Disregard the troll.

    • @hoot1141
      @hoot1141 Před 2 lety +10

      Think about the capability in that room as well. Kit these three out with gear and weapons and put them on a target and it’s target secure in minutes. The average person has no idea the skill level of these three men. I personally served with Mike and I know where DJ has been and these guys are the tip of the spear.

  • @nohemitoobad
    @nohemitoobad Před 2 lety +2

    I have discussed this but I have never taught it this way...it definitely happens and have never been able to communicate it like y’all have. Thank y’all, you have saved more lives than you can ever know.

  • @wadewilson8011
    @wadewilson8011 Před rokem +15

    THANK YOU! I've had this argument SO MANY times. When you're compromised in a real world situation, you're gonna have to sometimes resort to instinctive aiming patterns. You're not going to have time or always remember to front sight your targets. Sometimes you gotta get shots off down range ASAP. However, there are SEVERAL outer factors that apply when in an actual gunfight. And they can be terrifying.

  • @timhahne3894
    @timhahne3894 Před 2 lety +267

    I'm former Army MP. Retired Civilian LEO, Training Officer. Damn good conversation about real world shit. Almost 40 years of carrying a gun in my profession and still learning. Thank you all for your service and expertise.

    • @bryanlloyd9916
      @bryanlloyd9916 Před 2 lety +12

      Thank you for your service brother

    • @m4rvinmartian
      @m4rvinmartian Před 2 lety +4

      I agree, but this should have been done in a living room with cigars with all the damn talking.

    • @timhahne3894
      @timhahne3894 Před 2 lety +8

      @@m4rvinmartian They get down to business in the next video. Can't go wrong with cigars and a good bourbon or scotch though. LOL

    • @m4rvinmartian
      @m4rvinmartian Před 2 lety +2

      @@timhahne3894 Haha, I'll have to check it out later.

    • @walterknight1550
      @walterknight1550 Před 2 lety +5

      Thank you for your service. God bless all retired LEO’s.

  • @secone4938
    @secone4938 Před 2 lety +262

    As an Deputy in Albuquerque NM who has experienced a “reactive shoot”, without using my sights; You are speaking truth. I cannot express the importance of the thousands of rounds down range and training.

    • @BiblePatriot
      @BiblePatriot Před 2 lety +14

      That’s cool to see someone from my city watching this as well. Stay safe man.

    • @wtfmrkratos
      @wtfmrkratos Před 2 lety +11

      Same. It’s rough here in abq. Stay safe

    • @johnshaft5613
      @johnshaft5613 Před 2 lety +14

      It kills me how most defensive firearms trainers constantly stress acquiring the sights/sight picture/etc. True, close range, defensive shooting (pretty much all non-military defensive shooting is close range) is point and shoot. Sights are not used. Anyone who has ever been in such a shooting will back this up. Practice for defensive shooting should be at least 80% rapid point-shoot done without sights.

    • @jona5517
      @jona5517 Před 2 lety +3

      @@johnshaft5613 What's confusing is that most "experts" and that includes many Ex SF guys, not to name names...still stress front sight focus NO MATTER WHAT..... yet even training from the 1940s never mention that for close range pistol combat .

    • @johnshaft5613
      @johnshaft5613 Před 2 lety +5

      @Waya Wolf shooting sports First of all, it was on-the-job training and didn't cost me a penny. Secondly, effective training costs the same as ineffective training. It would be less a waste of money than practicing aimed/sighted shooting which (alone) will not adequately prepare you for a self-defense situation. No one wants to believe this, but you will not use your sights. You won't. Not at least in 99% of defensive shooting using a handgun. You will point the gun and dump lead at the target as rapidly as possible.

  • @jimwilberforce2612
    @jimwilberforce2612 Před 2 lety +4

    Thank you guys for taking so much time to talk about this subject. Much more informative then 20 mins of watching you pull a trigger.

  • @kmtphx
    @kmtphx Před 2 lety +79

    There are times when you realize that information is being passed that deserves your undivided attention. This is one of those times.
    I usually blow by the 'hardware' videos because I'm looking for software. Thank you for sharing, I'm awestruck by the what I gained and I'm going to the range to apply what I learned.

  • @racerdude888
    @racerdude888 Před 2 lety +177

    This is great for new shooters. As a trainer, I find that most people have no knowledge of their trigger reset. When I go through it with new to seasoned shooters it makes them better in just a few minutes.

    • @futuremarineBRIT
      @futuremarineBRIT Před 2 lety

      Oftentimes scrubs shoot from the reset point. Know your trigger. Feel the wall.

    • @boomee78
      @boomee78 Před 2 lety

      Differnet philosophies there isnt the way there are mutiple ways to get solve problems with shooters depending on experience and application

    • @boomee78
      @boomee78 Před 2 lety

      @@futuremarineBRIT not scrubs many people are taught different things

    • @boomee78
      @boomee78 Před 2 lety

      @@futuremarineBRIT not scrubs many people are taught different things

    • @andrewheydon9792
      @andrewheydon9792 Před 2 lety

      Find the wall should be one of those first fundamental pieces. I love hearing people talk about trigger knowledge right off the bat. 🤙🏼

  • @machstem6390
    @machstem6390 Před 2 lety +53

    Give these dudes more of a spotlight. They are literate modern day vikings. But philosophers also. Mastering every aspect. The attention to detail

    • @andrewd8420
      @andrewd8420 Před 2 lety +6

      Shawn Ryan, Vigilance Elite had him on his podcast a week ago, it's spectacular.

    • @replynotificationsdisabled
      @replynotificationsdisabled Před 2 lety

      They have tactical skills, but Vikings were hand to hand, and very strong.. MMA fighter would be closer to a viking. For your usage of "literal," it's far off. Maybe moreso modern day samurai.

  • @tpr299
    @tpr299 Před rokem +21

    As a trooper I was trained in the Pete Soulis technique. Instinctive point shooting at close range (10 yards, or less) using no sights. It works, and it’s fast. I enjoyed this video. I couldn’t have more respect for you guys than I do. Watching part 2 now.

    • @Accurize2
      @Accurize2 Před rokem +2

      Local cop here, former amateur IPSC shooter. I’m the same. Point shooting is my go to for short range also. I can point at things naturally, so it’s completely instinctive for me.

  • @seancrocker1222
    @seancrocker1222 Před 2 lety +2

    The way you three explain the fundamentals and describe instinctive shooting is exceptional! Than you for passing on this valuable knowledge. 👍🏻

  • @jaydubs6354
    @jaydubs6354 Před 2 lety +117

    Took a fieldcraft pistol class (Mike was not an instructor of this course but his company, his instructors, and his curriculum) I really liked the instructors explanation and real world implementation of this type of reactive and instinctive shooting. I learned a lot from them and it’s still something I practice all the time using them drills they demo’d and showed us. The lead instructor of the course was a former leo with a lot of experience especially with pistols so for this course he was a great teacher he had the real world defensive knowledge behind the tactics and drills he was teaching. It wasn’t a competition prep class about how to do the fastest bill drill it was a no bs defensive pistol class and it was spot on imo. Same with the gbrs group guys. So many people think you’re nuts for taking sights off a pistol, but you can be very accurate with a pistol just based off of instinctive/reactive or “hard target focused” shooting methods. If your grip is solid and your stance is set you can punch a zones at distance without sights and do it very repeatable it just takes practice reps. Something that was actually brought up in the fieldcraft class was a uspsa shooter (forgot his name) who’s instructor removed their sights until they achieved the rank of either master or grand master so yeah it’s absolutely possible and I tend to agree with them it’s about training for reality, you likely won’t have the time or maybe even the ability to get that good sight picture, both hands and a firm grip on your pistol, in the time needed to take that life saving shot.

    • @pitbull82
      @pitbull82 Před 2 lety

      What did it cost you?

    • @warriorofgod8188
      @warriorofgod8188 Před 2 lety

      @@pitbull82 🤫

    • @corey0863
      @corey0863 Před 2 lety +3

      @@pitbull82 more like what's the price you're willing to pay to ensure you win a deadly altercation should you ever end up there?

    • @teacherrobin3192
      @teacherrobin3192 Před 2 lety +1

      That was a great idea ... that no sight training ....

    • @jaydubs6354
      @jaydubs6354 Před 2 lety +1

      @@teacherrobin3192 yeah it’s good to have that confidence in your pistol shooting. If you train grip and have a good stance that bullets going where you point the pistol regardless if the optics dead, lens is cracked, irons are busted etc

  • @bearpaw9204
    @bearpaw9204 Před 2 lety +20

    Knowing these guys are willing to pass their knowledge on is amazing. I had the opportunity to support the Seals on Kodiak with some comms stuff, couldn't have met nicer guys. Thank you for what you do.

  • @chadb8168
    @chadb8168 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I appreciate you guys for all you do.. specifically for addressing the real world in action “instinctive” shooting. The fear, the pressure, the feeling when you have to send rounds down range at an enemy.
    Thanks again.

  • @superfisher4379
    @superfisher4379 Před 2 lety +1

    I have to say that the GBRS guys have some of the most simplistic but informative videos I've ever seen. The way they explain everything just makes sense.

  • @Bttl71958
    @Bttl71958 Před 2 lety +88

    It’s mind blowing at the amount of detail they put in all this information. It just shows how good those tier one guys are, and their putting all of this out for free. Shoutout to these three badasses.🤙🏽

  • @justinhaase8825
    @justinhaase8825 Před 2 lety +17

    I spent 20 years as a news videographer and had a variety of cameras on the shoulder…from anything of way too light to way too heavy. I had one favorite that was well balanced and weighed enough to be stable against wind and also “gyroscopically” stable to where it felt like I the camera was part of me and I wasn’t fighting it one way or the other…
    There is def something to be said for the feel of a tool that meets an deeper set of expectations and understanding that make you feel truly comfortable.

  • @BuckingFastard
    @BuckingFastard Před rokem +7

    This guy nailed what it’s like to shoot “something” … it’s literally a reaction and all the years of your life with hand and eye coordination. Like a pitcher catching a ball hit back to him at 100+ mph while completely off guard and off balance. It’s just instinct and knowledge of exactly the circumstances at hand.

  • @KevPaulCOG
    @KevPaulCOG Před rokem +8

    Love this conversation! Professionals breaking down reality for us, keep training brother's and sisters!

  • @Jabronis
    @Jabronis Před 2 lety +16

    Lot of experience and badassery in this room.

    • @johnqpublic2718
      @johnqpublic2718 Před 2 lety +1

      We can’t say the same for complete sentences in your comment. 😉

    • @HaloDude557
      @HaloDude557 Před 2 lety +3

      Luke B this is CZcams not NCBI. Nice emoji too.

  • @17874
    @17874 Před 2 lety +68

    Finally, trainers are telling it like it is in the real world of close up gunfights. My shooting was one second from start to finish on the footage. I never saw my sights and I always trained to use my sights prior to that in my USMC training, LE training and all my competition shooting. I did get all my hits though using this exact technique without even knowing it. I have also yet to talk to another person in a gunfight inside 10 yards who did see their sights. Thank you for doing this. Mike, I remember when you came by our Academy to work with us trainers and you immediately picked me and the other guy out as the ones who had been in shootings.

    • @joeschmo5403
      @joeschmo5403 Před 2 lety +5

      Been in a few always saw my sights but i know im an outlier

    • @bobv2930
      @bobv2930 Před 2 lety +7

      Perhaps all that training with your sights allowed you to develop a solid index so you could point the gun where you want it in the moment. Kinda like Jeff Cooper’s saying the body aims the gun and the sights verify. Scotty Reitz from LAPD was in 5 shootings and I believe he saw his sights in each one.

    • @joeschmo5403
      @joeschmo5403 Před 2 lety +1

      @@bobv2930 this was exactly my guess its not like I was slowing down to look for them or anything it just happened

    • @Petolean
      @Petolean Před 2 lety +5

      @@joeschmo5403 Your body aligns your point of aim,your eyes do see the sights but adrenaline warps time perception and you don't hyper focus/remember it.

    • @brentonusa4887
      @brentonusa4887 Před 2 lety +2

      @@bobv2930 I trained with Jim Cirillo (look him up if you don't know who he was) a couple of times and he was in 19 gunfights as part of the NYPD stakeout squad in the late 1960's. If I recall correctly, Jim stated that he saw his sights in every shootout, but the difference was that Jim was a bullseye shooter as well as a handgun hunter and as part of stakeout, the good guys had an edge in surprising the bad guys... I learned a lot of Jim, and I had already had 20 years shooting handguns at that point and 10 years shooting IPSC/USPSA. For me, there is a transition point of "instinctive/point shooting' from about 15 yards and in and sights further out unless a VERY precise shot needs to be taken. One of the things that Jim had people do was to tape over their sights and surprisingly, many shooters shot BETTER using the handgun profile or instinctive/point shooting vs their use of sights. The reason for this is that most people don't understand a couple of things. The concept of a wobble zone (comes from a bullseye or archery background) shows that for most people, they will NEVER be able to hold rock steady, so as soon as that magical 'PERFECT" NRA diagramed out sight picture DOES happen (for a fraction of an instant), they yank the trigger to get the shot off. Their trigger control goes to shit because they know that they only have .005 secs to break it before they no longer have the NRA poster child of perfect sight alignment. With no sights to make people anticipate such a short window of opportunity to be "perfect", their trigger control was much better and fewer yanked on the trigger. Just something to think about... OH, and practice! When I was competing, I was shooting 4-500 rds during the week in practice plus 120-200 in a match. Now, that's almost impossible to do, but dry fire is still a good means to get trigger time in when you can't afford or can't find ammo or can't find components for reloading...

  • @EdResleff
    @EdResleff Před 2 lety +5

    Damn... just listening to these guys makes me feel like I never learned anything in my 10 years AF. It's amazing to just to understand the enormity of situational dynamics that goes into their level of training. I'm in AWE...!

  • @samenella2979
    @samenella2979 Před 2 lety +1

    love DJ's approach to the whole fundamentals and basics. great training

  • @muriloninja
    @muriloninja Před 2 lety +147

    Mike is the epitome of a good Green Beret...humble and ALWAYS willing to learn! Stay Alert Stay Alive! Awesome video but again, someone tell DJ to take the hat off and show off the inherited hairline of glory. lol

    • @bunzinod1964
      @bunzinod1964 Před 2 lety +3

      I think he's 1st SFOD- D ie. Delta Force which is classified that's why he doesn't acknowledge it

    • @coreyroberts2831
      @coreyroberts2831 Před 2 lety +7

      @@bunzinod1964 Mike mentions it all the time, have you never heard him say "CAG" or "The Unit"... that's what he's talking about. D-Boys dont say Delta.

    • @TheSeanBampton
      @TheSeanBampton Před 2 lety

      @@bunzinod1964 Mike *was* Delta but ran into a little trouble and left. He's pretty vocal about his past if you watch other podcasts, like Mike Ritland's or Andy Stumpf's. Great stuff.

    • @Arm-Your-Friends
      @Arm-Your-Friends Před 2 lety +2

      @@TheSeanBampton what trouble?

    • @bryanluntz1603
      @bryanluntz1603 Před 2 lety

      It won't let me

  • @soft_butter4629
    @soft_butter4629 Před 2 lety +6

    The amount of diverse knowledge and experience in this room is outstanding and the willingness to continue learning no matter the experience you have is inspiring. Great work guys

  • @illinoiswildz5049
    @illinoiswildz5049 Před rokem

    This may be the first video I watched 100% of the way through, without interruption. Thank you for the fantastic content. I am sharing it now with my range buddies. Gives us a opportunity to train a whole new way.

  • @thealize808
    @thealize808 Před 2 lety +2

    Mike is very knowledgeable. Well spoken. And a good person. I was very fortunate to attend two fieldcraft classes. Peoria and LV. Good people. Thank you

  • @stayinfrosty6460
    @stayinfrosty6460 Před 2 lety +3

    Always an information rich show, flooded with real life experience, and woven all together with friendly debate/postulating on what’s the best approach to take, in a variety of rapidly evolving, potential situations. It’s like you guys kept repeating, reality based training, which can only come from folks like yourselves who’ve proven this exact concept countless times, Whether that be in training or in the shit, learning as you go. We’ll done y’all. Always great stuff. Thanks for all your help, and willingness to pass what you’ve learned onto me, and others like me. DJ I caught your interview with Shawn, and I gotta say man, props, and respect to you for the humility you showed by throwing down your hand, showing your cards, and admitting you’ve made some mistakes. Can’t thank you enough for being a real dude, and being as transparent as you were. Mike I love your content, been a fan for long time. Y’all keep up the good work. I think this country is going to need this information in dire ways very soon. Cole, don’t know too much about you man. But I’m sure you’re a badass just the same. Thanks again guys.

  • @palakpaneer1430
    @palakpaneer1430 Před 2 lety +4

    Ive shot with Mike a couple times now over a few years and he is one of if not the best out there. I have a lot of respect for him because he puts himself out there and is open to any criticism that comes his way. He is also a pretty humble guy given that he was a tier 1 operator and GRS contractor with many gunfights under his belt. The GBRS guys are solid in their profession as well and it goes without saying that whomever is fortunate enough to train and learn from these guys will be taking leaps in competency if they pay attention.

  • @joshualt1775
    @joshualt1775 Před 2 lety +1

    Damn its comforting knowing we had/have guys like this out there on the line fighting for us.

  • @franc587
    @franc587 Před rokem

    I really love these veterans as a fellow veteran with combat experience and weapons training experience. Love what you great men do !!

  • @ronwoods1834
    @ronwoods1834 Před 2 lety +87

    I’m not telling my wife that Mike gave me blue balls. I feel like that conversation could have gone on for hours and I would still be asking for more. The way that Mike talks and explains himself has really resonated with me and DJ and Cole have that same quality. No bullshit. Just clear and to the point.

  • @michaellopez8498
    @michaellopez8498 Před 2 lety +3

    Thank you gentleman for confirming something that has gone totally against a large majority of firearm instructors who preach on picking up your sights. In CQB, it’s about survival and being the fastest with rounds on target. For so many years I felt inferior because I never found my my sights in training scenarios and shot instinctively, but was still able to eliminate the threat. Thanks again for sharing your real world experiences with everyone.

  • @tonymoore5568
    @tonymoore5568 Před 2 lety

    Absolutely the best training film made. I have been through the Navy and the Fl certification firearms course and never have I had such a good training course. Thanks fellows.

  • @connorbaz5980
    @connorbaz5980 Před 2 lety +7

    This is one of the most enjoyable/educational (2 part) videos I've watched in a while. Just saying "thank you" sounds so lame here. The amount of knowledge in that room has got to be mind-blowing, and the fact that y'all are sharing some of it with us FOR FREE is just...incredible.
    That said, it would be incredible if you could do a video (or maybe even a dedicated series...?) with recent GWOT "Tier 1" guys like DJ and Cole here, meeting and cross-pollinating (for lack of a better word) with older Legends from a different era like Pat McNamara, who still keeps the edge sharp and ready for any situation.
    Again...you guys do an incredible job, and please keep it up - it's very much appreciated and used.

  • @terrybaird9532
    @terrybaird9532 Před 2 lety +19

    Great job. Love to hear professionals like you three talk about this.
    My father, the greatest shooter i ever met, stressed point shooting constantly to us. He fought on some of the ugliest islands in the pacific in WWII and I can still hear the words, son there may come a day you will not have time to aim. That was 50 years ago.
    Can’t wait for more videos like this.

  • @luggnutz
    @luggnutz Před 2 lety +3

    30 sum odd years ago, there were a few proponents of "instinctive" shooting. If you align yourself properly it is very doable. I for one am glad that top recent top tier guys are discussing this. Always be open to learning something new, things are continuously evolving, that is the one constant.

  • @calenholt5045
    @calenholt5045 Před rokem +1

    Best conversation I have heard of about instinctive shooting at close range room clearance.

  • @cliftonlloyd8395
    @cliftonlloyd8395 Před 2 lety +3

    These videos are absolutely invaluable to the people who are dedicated to learning without much formal training. People give me shit when I mention that I practice reloading from slide lock to dummy round/target acquisition just because, and I always reply "I bet I'm faster"....

  • @normwilson117
    @normwilson117 Před 2 lety +5

    First time DJ’s face isn’t digitized; if you can’t be open to learning from guys who’ve been there and done that, you have bigger problems; the skills discussed are not for beginners, like Cole said, but methods that have been vetted..always a student; grateful for men like this, willing to pay forward from their experiences

  • @user-mj1vb8jr6j
    @user-mj1vb8jr6j Před 2 lety +6

    Dude freak yeah, I dig all the points in this video. Started ccw with all kinds of small guns. After 8 years of it I now rock a g34 with an rmr and tlr1 in an armadillo lux holster. I’m not a big guy either. 180lbs and 510. I’ve found a difference between comfortable and comforting. I choose comforting now.

  • @stevemikos5199
    @stevemikos5199 Před rokem +1

    Thank you for your service gentlemen. Truly appreciate all you do!!

  • @zacharyoehrke5940
    @zacharyoehrke5940 Před rokem

    I love that as knowledgeable as Mike is he had no problem being taught and learning things. Solid dude

  • @ThorsMjollnir0341
    @ThorsMjollnir0341 Před 2 lety +14

    It's an interesting concept. It's like a golf swing. The key is consistent mechanics so that you don't have to think. It become purely mechanical. That split second you have to think about your optic or sight is a spit second too long, but if you have the same mechanical presentation that you've made 1,000 times, you will hit what your body is aiming at.

  • @JustDefense
    @JustDefense Před 2 lety +7

    I’m also on board with the P320 full size/M17. User friendly and *extremely* accurate. Low recoil impulse and flip.

  • @marknato5569
    @marknato5569 Před 2 lety +8

    I love how Mike asks questions and still wants to learn even though the guy is retired special forces. He doesnt have that arrogant ego like alot of guys do. Humble and professional, hard to find guys like that anymore.

    • @louiswolff9382
      @louiswolff9382 Před 4 měsíci

      Yep, but not to nit pick he was Tier 2 and these guys are Tier 1, while the tier 2 guys are awesome and professional in their own rights for the missions they were given the tier 1 guys are literally the next level that have super honed their skills and techniques on a deeper level, tier 2 teams tend to rotate their operators faster so they aren’t getting the amount of time with the same guys/team for years upon years potentially on end, it’s one of the more common complaints I hear from the tier 2 guys, I think also the tier 1 guys have a smaller number of mission sets compared to tier 2 having let’s say 15 potential areas to practice for while tier 1 it might be 5 or 7 so they can spend more time on each individual mission set, as well as have bigger budgets to be the first to get the cool new toys and become proficient and develop TTP’s for their uses, like Dev Gru for instance if I’m not mistaken they are allocated and use more ammo in training per year then the entire Marine Corp combined, Delta or CAG or the Unit whatever you want to call them is on par with that as well, they can spend 8-10 hours in a pit practicing the same drill over and over and over with 1,000’s of rounds of ammo, they don’t just practice till they get it right, they practice until they can’t get it wrong.

  • @WADYNASTY77
    @WADYNASTY77 Před rokem +2

    I am just extremely appreciative of all of you taking the time with explaining this. I want to become more proficient with my fire arms. In a deteriorating world I’m the I’m the only line of defense that I can control to protect my family

  • @KanoDailyThePhilippinesandMore

    Great video! It's amazing how many people can stand in the outfield and, upon seeing and hearing how the ball comes off the bat, turn and run to a certain spot and stick out their glove to let the ball drop into it, but they think it's some kind of voodoo to point a pistol at somebody's chest six feet away and get a hit without first acquiring a perfect sight picture with those little things on top of the slide.

  • @ThunderDog
    @ThunderDog Před 2 lety +5

    It's awesome to see the community put a blitz of content out there for DJ and Cole. (Shawn Ryan's interview and now Fieldcraft Survival putting him in the spotlight).

    • @smallfry0764
      @smallfry0764 Před 2 lety

      That Shawn Ryan interview with DJ was awesome.

  • @chiphungerford
    @chiphungerford Před 2 lety

    Thanks to you all for your service. This was great, keep the content coming.

  • @kennethpassanisi8139
    @kennethpassanisi8139 Před 2 lety

    Everything these men are speaking of concerning real life situations are true. My best friend and distant cousin from Kentucky tought me all these foundations when it comes to instinctively shooting a pistol. He tought me how to reload many different calibers, the difference ballistically, and the importance of knowing your gun and ability. He came from the WWII Era. And was very helpful in training me. I'm absolutely confident that I could learn from these men and their experiences. Wish I had the time and resources to meet up with them. At 60 years old, I still feel like there's so much to learn.

  • @kinch613
    @kinch613 Před 2 lety +4

    As a retired cop/detective I found that I too initially and instinctively shot Glocks a bit high. Once I found to roll my support thumbs forward( parallel), that dropped the muzzle naturally! From there it was all presentation and practice! Good stuff fellas!

  • @Richyw0278
    @Richyw0278 Před 2 lety +5

    DJ is the most calming but badass guy. Listening to his interview with Shawn Ryan was great to just listen and learn

  • @GentlemanEDC
    @GentlemanEDC Před 2 lety

    Aiming with the back plate is something I started doing early in training. Nobody told me to or influenced, I just figured mechanically that round is linear to the plate, in emergency cases why wouldn’t this be a backup way to aim. So glad to see it validated in this video

  • @Terron35
    @Terron35 Před 2 lety +3

    The backplate shooting just blew mind. My first pistol was an old H&R sidekick missing it's rear sight so I got used to instinctive shooting as a kid. I'd go hunt bullfrogs with it. Definitely adding backplate shooting to my training

  • @thelegendarycamel
    @thelegendarycamel Před 2 lety +110

    3 legends man. I aspire to be like these men, can't wait to start my journey starting with basic and selection later this year. Shout out to fng academy helping get us ready! Keep up the content Mike, love this stuff

  • @pd2210
    @pd2210 Před 2 lety +5

    Just an outstanding episode. Looking forward to part 2. Just saw DJ on Sean Ryans podcast last week. Great dude and patriot. Cole great dude too. I love GBRS videos awesome content. Thanks guys.

  • @user-df2lq3hr1i
    @user-df2lq3hr1i Před rokem

    I love everything that was talked about on this video. You all do a great job of relaying information.

  • @anthonycalderon208
    @anthonycalderon208 Před 2 lety +3

    Man!! These new soldiers now a days are SO LUCKY to be able to listen to these guys any day, time of the week!!!! That trigger finger detail is so good. This is high level teaching. Straight from the University of spec ops professor! Lol Big Army training NCO's should watch these videos for certifications. This shit is fkn gold!!!

  • @rudrashakti108
    @rudrashakti108 Před 2 lety +4

    I love mike, discovered him on vigilance elite. Was impressed too when he himself then interviewed that Apache helicopter pilot. Then just the other day was the interview on VE with Shipley. And now here he is, in his own element. Just amazing.

  • @jareddonaldson9249
    @jareddonaldson9249 Před 2 lety +8

    Seeing this after watching DJ's episode on the Shawn Ryan show just makes this that much better.

  • @ajjefferson8233
    @ajjefferson8233 Před 2 lety +1

    Kudos guys! I’ve had the pleasure of working with some stellar dudes down range and one of the things they all have in common is their willingness to learn.

  • @velvetjones1856
    @velvetjones1856 Před 2 lety +1

    I loved the discussion about target acquisition and not using sights. it becomes point and shoot for the most part. You discussed the grip angle of Glock and switching to other guns with "normal" grip angles and the challenge that presents. I tried shooting my 1911 in IDPA and did ok but when I switched to 9mm Glock 34, my scored dropped off a lot. SO now I have standardized on Sigs first with 226 and not with 320X5 and 365. Lately I have tried some H&K VP9 and I like a lot too.

  • @HunterAlexanderJohnson
    @HunterAlexanderJohnson Před 2 lety +5

    Mike, I really appreciate the videos you put out and the training you provide. As someone who lives in southern California, it definitely makes training hard when everything is more expensive, gun laws are shitty, and its hard to find places where you can actually do real world training. Its great that we can still learn fundamentals and basics through you, and I hope to learn from you in person some day. keep up the awesome work and the videos and knowledge coming man

  • @chaunceychappelle2173
    @chaunceychappelle2173 Před 2 lety +6

    As a "Sig Guy" I often found myself having keep quiet around the glock guys. Get's in the way of training some conversations. Definitely good to hear both sides of the elite perspective in this platform.

    • @lunam7249
      @lunam7249 Před rokem

      90% of good shooting is the trigger ....light pull, quick reset....9.9% is low recoil...the goal of killing the bad guy is dumping high numbers as quick as posible...first to hit is the one going home...

  • @freddyvicaire6777
    @freddyvicaire6777 Před 2 lety

    Amazing video! Thsnk you all for your service!

  • @paddyirish7102
    @paddyirish7102 Před 4 měsíci

    I'm glad these men on our side ,thank you for service and great videos

  • @xbunnythiefx
    @xbunnythiefx Před 2 lety +3

    Every time I hear guys like these talk, it feels like I’m learning the most obvious things that haven’t been taught. Some guys will try to play to that “do this bc it’s obvious” but in my mind it’s only obviously stupid. When you listen to guys that do it for real, it’s pretty clear. Love the idea of knowledge transfer

  • @Austin_P
    @Austin_P Před 2 lety +144

    I don’t understand why people don’t agree with “instinctive” shooting. We throw a ball or shoot a basket without “aiming”, most of the time there is no sights with traditional archery. We drive and keep a moving vehicle between lines. We throw knives and tomahawks. There are numerous examples of how we as humans will put something exactly were we need it without sights. It’s repetition and practice and “muscle memory” to become proficient at all of these tasks. Shooting is the same.

    • @jasonpittman7470
      @jasonpittman7470 Před 2 lety +8

      Well put.

    • @jareddonaldson9249
      @jareddonaldson9249 Před 2 lety +5

      Perfect explanation

    • @lnaesll
      @lnaesll Před 2 lety +10

      The problem you find these days is people don’t want to do the work. If you have bad instincts your instinctive shooting is going to be bad. People need to MASTER the fundamentals well before they start instinctive shooting.

    • @adamc2378
      @adamc2378 Před 2 lety +17

      Because a arrow or a ball won't go through several layers of sheetrock and cement board, into your children's rooms or your neighbor's house. Most trainers do not advise the average shooter to do instinctive point shooting because the average shooter doesn't have the hours and round count to have developed the "correct" instinct.

    • @lnaesll
      @lnaesll Před 2 lety +9

      @@adamc2378 exactly. These people get on these videos and watch guys that have tens of thousands of hours behind these weapons systems and think their once a month flat range trip will equate to mastering point shooting.

  • @zl1_special272
    @zl1_special272 Před 2 lety

    DJ is amazing , his experience is nuts ... anything these guys say is something for the toolbox take it all in learn and use..

  • @blaircavscout
    @blaircavscout Před 2 lety

    This is all spot on, great real world knowledge. Years ago I learned that mastering the basics and fundamentals is the foundation that all others are built on. Reminds me of Paul Howe with CSAT.

  • @DonSean
    @DonSean Před 2 lety +30

    Man Mike wasn't kidding when he spoke about almost having to use his low capacity EDC in a not so ideal situation. I been in that same boat during a road rage incident and couldn't agree more. After my experience I switched my PPS to a 365, but now appendix a FS Beretta APX or Beretta PX4C Storm. Rather have it and not need it then need it then not have it, not to mention there are many added benefits if your willing to pack a little more weight but that's another discussion.

    • @KillerBudda1418
      @KillerBudda1418 Před 2 lety

      365 is not high capacity its ten rounds get a compact or full size i used to carry a 365 i carry a 19 now and its upgraded i dont have the shit trigger

    • @fireandiron4181
      @fireandiron4181 Před rokem +1

      @@KillerBudda1418 365x with extended mag is 15(+1) while being the same general size as the regular 365.

    • @SoulEternalPeaceWarrior77
      @SoulEternalPeaceWarrior77 Před rokem

      PLEASE can everyone here petition Mike to recount this story 8:52, we need a full video on it haha.

  • @John-kc8ln
    @John-kc8ln Před 2 lety +3

    The level of knowledge on that range… God Bless America 🇺🇸

  • @TheAustinjohnson23
    @TheAustinjohnson23 Před rokem

    As a LEO something that is refreshing to me is these guys talking about stuff I was trained. I’m specifically talking about the instinctive shoot. I know there are a lot of training tactics in the LEO profession that are just incorrect. I love watching these guys to either reinforce or change my mind set about different training applications. Great content guys keep it up!

  • @bigrahz-bingegaming5578
    @bigrahz-bingegaming5578 Před 4 měsíci

    I love my fullsize P320 for the past 8 years. Appreciate this video

  • @discordye4825
    @discordye4825 Před 2 lety +6

    I'm a small guy, I edc a p365x. I have a mag guts kit on my mags, increasing the capacity by 2. So I carry 14+1, in an incredibly dependable, extremely comfortable, and crazy accurate micro compact...it feels like it's an extension of my hand, it fits so perfectly. The confidence I have carrying this pistol is astronomical...

    • @frenchbulldoglife
      @frenchbulldoglife Před 6 měsíci

      MY BABY AS WELL, my brother loves the big duffy handguns we go back and forth all the time.

  • @woodsman12345
    @woodsman12345 Před 2 lety +3

    Great segment on switching to a Sig Sauer. Totally agree with Mike and Cole about the grip and feel of a Sig 320 vs. a Glock. When I was shopping for a new EDC gun last year, I tried Glock 19's (Gen III's and Gen IV's) and they just didn't feel right in my hand. Then I picked up my first Sig 320 XCarry (customized by Zev), and I swear I heard an angelic choir singing in the background -- it just felt good in my hand.
    Also highly recommend the Gunfighter Pistol and Gunfighter Carbine courses taught by Fieldcraft Survival, too. Took the level I versions of both down in Spanish Fork, UT last year, and it was worth every penny. Looking forward to taking level II for both in the near future.

    • @aztronomy7457
      @aztronomy7457 Před 2 lety

      Try a p10c. IMO it basically took all the great things about Glock, and fixed them. I can't even figure out what I would want to upgrade on it because everything is honestly perfect. Trigger is great, tritium night sights are great, grip texture is fine.

  • @michaelgutschow5994
    @michaelgutschow5994 Před 2 lety

    Dj is a serious dude man. You can really tell. Like down to his everything, oozes professionalism.

  • @fettiwillfredo2724
    @fettiwillfredo2724 Před 2 lety

    Everything i know about shooting has just gone out the window. relearning and retraining is where you realize what you do wrong. please keep these coming. This is a serious need for the gun community.

  • @jakeford1570
    @jakeford1570 Před 2 lety +4

    I love this stuff and respect the hell out of these guys. I’m sticking with my Gen 3 19, it works and I’m just used to it.

  • @c.r.chandler5905
    @c.r.chandler5905 Před 2 lety +3

    I remember my first OIS and from the start of the pursuit to the end of the gunfight was less than 30 seconds. I love these guys because they are telling it how it is. To this date I don't remember drawing my gun (SIG P-229 in .40), I remember a slight push into my hand (the recoil) and I don't remember seeing my sights and I don't remember hearing any of my shots or the shots of the officer beside me.

    • @silvermediastudio
      @silvermediastudio Před 2 lety +1

      How much force on force training had you participated in prior?

  • @jdwar11
    @jdwar11 Před 4 měsíci

    I’m super glad you guys spoke on instinctive firing. I thought I have been an odd ball the past 20+ years. Whether overseas or shooting competition I don’t ever remember seeing my front sight with a pistol. It was either the second or third shot when I finally picked it up. I always felt it was muscle memory learned from the hundreds and thousands of draws and engagements.

  • @DeeKay617
    @DeeKay617 Před rokem

    DJ is a absolute Monster ! Anyway 3 of this planets tier 1 elite warriors , complete soldiers and humble dudes . These are the heroes I teach my son about !

  • @PinstripeJim
    @PinstripeJim Před 2 lety +5

    Kick a$$ seabass!! This is good stuff. Would like to a see a special maybe "Part 3" for the Fieldcraft subscribers. Basics are where we start for a reason and when we deviate from that, all the mistakes bring you right back to the basics.

  • @cerebrum
    @cerebrum Před 2 lety +45

    Never was a fan of glock. It’s why I carry an M&P M2.0 compact. The ergonomics are freaking perfect, which makes the recoil nonexistent, and the gun looks great too.

    • @dougmorisoli6482
      @dougmorisoli6482 Před 2 lety +7

      Same. For me, the M&P has much better grip angle for natural point of aim than my G19. That said, P365x (no optic) gets most of the actual carry time.

    • @josh48315
      @josh48315 Před 2 lety +7

      Yeah the M&P is such a sweet platform. Now that they’re moving all to a bladed trigger and away from the hinged trigger it’s even better.

    • @DH-cm3et
      @DH-cm3et Před 2 lety +5

      Helped a girlfriend buy her first gun, we shot all the regular full-size guns, from Glocks to Sigs, H&K, Beretta; I was really surprised when her favorite and the best fit for her hands/grip was the M&P M2.0. I'm a Sig guy myself, but it definitely felt good shooting the M&P. Granted I may have also steered her away from Glocks because of my innate dislike for them...

    • @bradleycarrier4820
      @bradleycarrier4820 Před 2 lety +1

      I guess you’ve never used a USP. Change your life. Maybe. If you’re into being a snob like me. I also own an E46. So, being an elitist is in my blood, apparently. But, USPs changed my life.

    • @spirit8144
      @spirit8144 Před 2 lety +1

      @@bradleycarrier4820 ended up choosing a USP for my first firearm, picking it up next week

  • @Kevo_1634
    @Kevo_1634 Před 2 lety +1

    I was just a M1 Tanker but SALUTE to you three gentlemen, God Bless you and thank you for this. I miss my brothers. No lie I actually prefer my p-st-l over my subcom mostly due to hand fit thing. My subcom was my first buy, my revolver was a “let me hold this thing” buy.

  • @Yetified_Mayhem
    @Yetified_Mayhem Před 2 lety

    This made more sense than the last 100 or so pistol vids I've watched. True professionals.

  • @305dadecounty_grabberbluem5

    Amazing to have the opportunity to learn from not only America's best but the best on the planet! - - - How fortunate are we to be able to have access to this information from these guys.

  • @dustinpribble1546
    @dustinpribble1546 Před 2 lety +16

    X5 legion is definitely nice but the AXG (AXG pro with the x series trigger) ergonomics imo is even more on point although it's slightly lighter... Both r amazing and top of the line. Can't wait to try the new 226 pro that just came out this year too

  • @DeltaThreeOne
    @DeltaThreeOne Před 8 měsíci

    I value this episode so much because of the sheer knowledge speaking from experience. My entire life I was told I was wrong about everything u guys r saying. The reflexive shooting especially. I’ll snap on a target at 50m without looking at sights and destroy the target.

  • @BPeterson730
    @BPeterson730 Před 2 lety

    Thanks for the video Mike. It’s really cool seeing and listening to DJ since seeing him on the Shawn Ryan Show.

  • @user-oy9zy4ds9m
    @user-oy9zy4ds9m Před 2 lety +4

    Excellent knowledge. I’ve heard from special forces guys that in real CQB gunfights you tend to shoot pretty low, because instinctively you’re trying to keep as much of the threat / target in your field of vision as possible and so your gun just goes down and down to the point you’re rounds are going into the guys belly button or lower

    • @GraphixHurricane
      @GraphixHurricane Před 2 lety

      Which is very effective. A person can't do anything without their hips

    • @planetcaravan2925
      @planetcaravan2925 Před 7 měsíci

      ​@@GraphixHurricaneor lungs or brains

  • @zeitgeist888
    @zeitgeist888 Před 2 lety +3

    I haven't heard the backplate aiming used before but in 1996 I trained with Jim Cirillo and he taught a similar technique of Silhouette point using the outline of the slide or cylinder and centering it on the target. It was fast and plenty accurate. Another trainer called the same technique Metal and Meat.

  • @JG54206
    @JG54206 Před 2 lety

    This video is a goldmine of knowledge from people who are worth listening to. I thought it was particularly interesting to hear him say that aesthetics matter even if you think they don’t. I thought that was just me and I have actively tried to slap myself out of that habit. I figured I would either grow out of it; which I may because I’m still young and relatively inexperienced, or that I was just being stupid. Im also surprised to find out that they recommend staging the trigger on the punch out. I recently got my first pistol and holster and practicing with a dry gun I was naturally doing this. I thought it was a bad habit I would need to deal with. Thankfully now I can instead just practice it to become better.

  • @anthnxy
    @anthnxy Před 2 lety

    Wow can't wait for PT. 2, love these guy's from GBRS. The knowledge coming from these 3 together is mind blowing