Mojang Is About To RUIN Copper Bulbs (And Crafters)

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  • @randomgaming6354
    @randomgaming6354 Před 6 měsíci +9881

    Mojang: adds a redstone component
    Everyone: really likes it
    Mojang: Thats not right

    • @TammonOG
      @TammonOG Před 6 měsíci +431

      They really said "we didn't get enough hate this time around, so let's change that"

    • @CheeseMiser
      @CheeseMiser Před 6 měsíci +1

      No

    • @Jen-hen
      @Jen-hen Před 6 měsíci

      my content reigns supreme on all of youtube

    • @cherricake1796
      @cherricake1796 Před 6 měsíci +7

      ​@@cjdook2ndaccountLMAO

    • @gamernerd1992
      @gamernerd1992 Před 6 měsíci +9

      Mojang in a nutshell

  • @hilariousskullnamedcatzo647
    @hilariousskullnamedcatzo647 Před 6 měsíci +5807

    Thankfully this is a snapshot, meaning if the Redstone community makes a huge uproar, we can revert the changes before the bulb becomes useless, and the crafter is dead from a false report before the update is out, SO GET SCREAMING EVERYONE

    • @hilariousskullnamedcatzo647
      @hilariousskullnamedcatzo647 Před 6 měsíci +414

      @@OFFICERJIMMYUTTP this isn't an animation bro

    • @destinywhatley7691
      @destinywhatley7691 Před 6 měsíci

      REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

    • @Boiled_Pizza
      @Boiled_Pizza Před 6 měsíci +306

      @@hilariousskullnamedcatzo647 it's those uttp dogs, they spam nonsense everywhere they go. best to ignore them and move on

    • @Calbjrd
      @Calbjrd Před 6 měsíci +7

      ​@@OFFICERJIMMYUTTPwhy

    • @kuronya3582
      @kuronya3582 Před 6 měsíci +19

      But main usage of bulb is flip flop, not 1 tick activation

  • @mistahmatrix
    @mistahmatrix Před 6 měsíci +2256

    I love it when mojang picks the absolute worst things to fix, instead of doing anything else, they just pick the easiest.

    • @IneptOrange
      @IneptOrange Před 6 měsíci +63

      Mojang moment

    • @e33manguy
      @e33manguy Před 6 měsíci +56

      You can still die for being in a specific spot in bedrock

    • @LsdRaccoon
      @LsdRaccoon Před 6 měsíci +12

      @@e33manguywait really?

    • @e33manguy
      @e33manguy Před 6 měsíci +15

      @@LsdRaccoon yeah lol, I think they said they won't fix it

    • @the_slasher_pl1830
      @the_slasher_pl1830 Před 6 měsíci +27

      "Easiest" huh? Tell that to the scuffed outposts that can be fixed in literal seconds...

  • @jamiew9289
    @jamiew9289 Před 6 měsíci +903

    I feel like unique things that don't fall in line with the rest of the game is exactly what minecraft needs

    • @junktruck
      @junktruck Před 6 měsíci +37

      But then you get the people who whine about how "it feels modded"

    • @fernyyyyyyy
      @fernyyyyyyy Před 6 měsíci +17

      @@junktruckFr. People should stop complaining about minecraft updates and just mod minecraft themselves🤦🏽‍♂️ but nah they expect too much from a 30$ game as if their life revolves around it.

    • @higueraft571
      @higueraft571 Před 6 měsíci +40

      @@junktruck They should shut up, because Minecraft became Modded the moment b1.8 dropped :V

    • @StarFried
      @StarFried Před 6 měsíci +21

      ​@@junktruckimo mojang shouldn't have those people in mind, most of them play on 1.8 anyways and they will whine no matter what mojang adds

    • @blazen123
      @blazen123 Před 6 měsíci +26

      ​@@junktruck"it feels modded" is a good thing anyway. why the hell would you want less things to do and less functionality

  • @Groxcima
    @Groxcima Před 6 měsíci +1835

    Mojang: We want players to use redstone features in ways that we didn't even intend.
    Also Mojang:

    • @Jen-hen
      @Jen-hen Před 6 měsíci +1

      my content reigns supreme on all of youtube

    • @BioTechproject27
      @BioTechproject27 Před 6 měsíci +48

      Players:
      \*use redstone features in ways that Mojang didn't even intend*
      Mojang:
      :^I -> >:^(

    • @Calbjrd
      @Calbjrd Před 6 měsíci +5

      ​@Jen-hen вот why are you doing this you piece of salt water

    • @Calbjrd
      @Calbjrd Před 6 měsíci +10

      ​@@OFFICERJIMMYUTTPThis video isn't about animation

    • @chloeholmes4641
      @chloeholmes4641 Před 6 měsíci +11

      ​@@Calbjrdit's a bot! Like those mlm groomers talking about finances a while back! 🤮🤮

  • @Corruptick
    @Corruptick Před 6 měsíci +1466

    Whoever made that bug report is definitely going to be getting a knock on their door from every redstone engineer sometime soon.

    • @quettaronnayotta
      @quettaronnayotta Před 6 měsíci +210

      I just checked and the report is no longer even uploaded on the official article or the bug tracker lol

    • @SupersuMC
      @SupersuMC Před 6 měsíci +271

      @@quettaronnayotta The coward deleted it. XD

    • @rezonantsarachnids5351
      @rezonantsarachnids5351 Před 6 měsíci +143

      I've already set an automatic tunnel bore on it's way to their house

    • @tzabarpho.
      @tzabarpho. Před 6 měsíci +84

      ​​@@rezonantsarachnids5351did you make a piston bolt? they might be very fast with the new 1 tick delay of the copper bulb.. oh.. right

    • @rezonantsarachnids5351
      @rezonantsarachnids5351 Před 6 měsíci +53

      @@tzabarpho. had to make it the old fashioned way! If only there was some way to make it faster and more size efficient..

  • @username5155
    @username5155 Před 6 měsíci +934

    Mojang: Hey, look at this cool new block!
    Community: Wow, it’s so unique!
    Mojang: Wait, it’s unique? ThAt’S a PrObLeM!

    • @Froxmog
      @Froxmog Před 6 měsíci +32

      Mojang is slowly becoming a 1.8 kid I see. Wanting 0 fucking changes to the game.

    • @cytroy
      @cytroy Před 6 měsíci +8

      Community: Wait no i take it back!
      Mojang: *releases update to patch the unique feature*

    • @_KingMe
      @_KingMe Před 6 měsíci

      yeah

    • @happysongs4kyrone
      @happysongs4kyrone Před 6 měsíci +12

      if it ain't broke, fix it
      if it broke, dont fix it
      - mojang

    • @namerandom9274
      @namerandom9274 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Wait please I can make it worst I swear

  • @Parallax3599
    @Parallax3599 Před 6 měsíci +450

    The devs seem to have forgotten that part of Minecraft's soul came from unintended features, ala a buggy pig model eventually becoming what we know as the creeper. I hope they learn from this and stop assuming everything unplanned for must be inherently "wrong".

    • @nowhed
      @nowhed Před 6 měsíci +38

      If the creeper wasn’t such a big part of the Minecraft culture, they would have removed it a long time ago.

    • @brokemono
      @brokemono Před 6 měsíci +12

      Maybe these devs are new hires. They might not know anything but to just program what is required.

    • @timohara7717
      @timohara7717 Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@nowhednotch included he would be racist

    • @hardVatsuki
      @hardVatsuki Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@timohara7717 based notch

  • @mathgeniuszach
    @mathgeniuszach Před 6 měsíci +2302

    Mojang: we have decided to make the blocks more inline with other redstone components.
    Also Mojang: pretends quasi-connectivity doesn't exist

    • @robuxyyyyyyyyyy4708
      @robuxyyyyyyyyyy4708 Před 6 měsíci +23

      Why is the tick rate thing even a thing?

    • @peachypet808
      @peachypet808 Před 6 měsíci +167

      @@robuxyyyyyyyyyy4708 Because that's how the game is simply running. Otherwise you'd have to bind the game speed to the framerate at this point and do you really wanna bind redstone to the framerate?

    • @user-qf2di6wy2d
      @user-qf2di6wy2d Před 6 měsíci +10

      So
      you want them to remove QC?
      As you wish.

    • @Goomba456
      @Goomba456 Před 6 měsíci +46

      ​@@robuxyyyyyyyyyy4708I'm not familiar with the Minecraft codebase but I believe it is designed that way because the alternative is it runs on individual frames. This could mean that redstone would cause inconsistencies in the event the game lags. I imagine this also helps when connecting 2 players with different frame rates.

    • @recycledwaste8737
      @recycledwaste8737 Před 6 měsíci +3

      Considering Mojang removed QC in the main version of the game, yeah I'd say that's accurate.

  • @terrariaskeletonpre1.0.39
    @terrariaskeletonpre1.0.39 Před 6 měsíci +671

    mojang seems to consistently listen to a single player that has the absolute worst suggestions (toxic fireflies, for example) which leave the other 99.9% of players scratching their heads, wondering why they listened to that one suggestion or bug report

    • @LOL-gn5oh
      @LOL-gn5oh Před 6 měsíci +209

      Man, the firefly situation has really pissed me off... I live in a tropical country in the southern hemisphere, my house is near lakes with frogs and it's not uncommon to see them eating fireflies. The poisonous ones are the ones that produce a high concentration of lucibufagin, which is more common in countries in the northern hemisphere.
      It's so infuriating to see how one-sided their reason was in removing the fireflies.

    • @GalacticSpike
      @GalacticSpike Před 6 měsíci +100

      mojang's a lost cause at this point, they keep ruining good features for the sake of consistency or enviromentalism, a side from the fireflies remember why they said they don't add hostile mobs that resemble real life animals, or why sharks weren't added, or even why you can't ride dolphins, so many examples of mojang not listening to the larger player base that just wants fun gameplay features

    • @sylv256
      @sylv256 Před 6 měsíci +84

      @@GalacticSpike it's not about that; it's about how b-ass-ackwards their reasoning is. if they did more research, they would've just made frogs avoid eating fireflies.

    • @MidnightDoom777
      @MidnightDoom777 Před 6 měsíci

      @@LOL-gn5ohit has come to our attention some fireflies are poisonous to frogs, so instead of just ignoring it (note: you can kill parrots with cookies) or making them just be ambiance and not eaten by frogs, we are removing them. Don’t worry, frogs won’t go hungry. Now they can eat slime and literal magma.

    • @holdengohs6997
      @holdengohs6997 Před 6 měsíci +35

      I think that Mojang is searching for "we helped this one person and they loved it moments" that sometimes endear the whole community (I think there was something with a rabbit variant related to this, and I believe turtles were initially designed by a fan). Moments like those get them a ton of good PR, and I think "Company helps kid teach people about the danger of feeding fireflies to frogs" is what they were going for. Unfortunately, it did not work.

  • @nekoman8560
    @nekoman8560 Před 6 měsíci +134

    Just double back on them and report the bad changes as a bug. While you’re at it, report all oxidation states of the copper bulb giving the same comparator output as a bug too

    • @cowserthekhelinace
      @cowserthekhelinace Před 6 měsíci +14

      People have been trying.
      WORKS AS INTENDED.

    • @Jerry_QY
      @Jerry_QY Před 6 měsíci

      truth

    • @timohara7717
      @timohara7717 Před 5 měsíci

      Report the fact that I can place twisted on stone that's the biggest issue

    • @Akhimed
      @Akhimed Před 4 měsíci +2

      And report the existence of the glow squid

  • @cheddarsunchipsyes8144
    @cheddarsunchipsyes8144 Před 6 měsíci +95

    Mojang never fails to hyper focus on things that don’t need changing while simultaneously ignoring community uproar when it comes to stuff like fireflies or chat reporting or mob votes…

    • @SnoFitzroy
      @SnoFitzroy Před 5 měsíci +1

      they literally listened about the chat reporting though. They nerfed it to the ground and added lots of limitations to it. Oh, and, it was never going to be automated. They have an entire team dedicated to moderating reports and they do throw out ones that are false reports, as reporting chat messages ALWAYS sends context, and you cannot prevent that - so the team they trained specifically for this feature alone isn't gonna ban anyone willy nilly. I was on the side of the outrage at first but Mojang has clarified so much to the point it's clearly not a problem. They literally listened, get over it.
      I don't understand the firefly outrage though. It's two pixels that float around, get over it.
      Mob votes are fucked though, and need to stop (that said I like the phantom).

    • @pixelgaming7261
      @pixelgaming7261 Před 4 měsíci +3

      @@SnoFitzroyYou are probably one of the only souls on this planet that actually like the phantom.

    • @jimmyg3835
      @jimmyg3835 Před 4 měsíci

      @@pixelgaming7261 i like it for lore reasons it is a pain to dill with but ether thin that i thank its a cool mob and it looks cool

  • @birchfieldeffect
    @birchfieldeffect Před 6 měsíci +323

    The Redstone community should submit another bug report saying that the Crafter functions similarly to Dispensers and Droppers and it's not supposed to😅

    • @bleh1818
      @bleh1818 Před 6 měsíci +14

      Underrated comment

    • @birchfieldeffect
      @birchfieldeffect Před 6 měsíci +7

      @@bleh1818 Thanks 😅 luckily it's new so hopefully it blows up

    • @bleh1818
      @bleh1818 Před 6 měsíci +11

      @@birchfieldeffect Honestly I'd make that report myself if not for the fact I'm not a redstoner nor have I played around with the snapshots, so my experience and knowledge in these items is limited
      But hey maybe someone even more spiteful than me will make that report >:D

    • @vaelegoro7782
      @vaelegoro7782 Před 6 měsíci +5

      Then it gets a Working as intended slapped over it and forgotten about

    • @birchfieldeffect
      @birchfieldeffect Před 6 měsíci

      @@vaelegoro7782 I can see you're quite the optimist...

  • @Fishysalmon02
    @Fishysalmon02 Před 6 měsíci +1113

    The crafter nerf doesn't bother me, but the copper bulbs definitely need to be reverted

    • @noahmeier1696
      @noahmeier1696 Před 6 měsíci +49

      no i like fast
      crafters but i agre on the bulbs

    • @tovarishcheleonora8542
      @tovarishcheleonora8542 Před 6 měsíci +46

      Yeah, an autocrafter not needs to be instant. And in fact, the original spead did look like as a very good material for lag machines if you stack up enough of them in the same place.
      And for the copper bulb thing: you already have a block that can make timing. It's called "a repeater".

    • @raymondan4701
      @raymondan4701 Před 6 měsíci

      @@tovarishcheleonora8542 Repeaters can't make odd game ticks, while copper buibs can :)

    • @ratlinggull2223
      @ratlinggull2223 Před 6 měsíci

      ​@@tovarishcheleonora8542not 1-tick timings, though. A repeater is either 2, 4, 6 or 8.

    • @genio2509
      @genio2509 Před 6 měsíci +154

      ​@@tovarishcheleonora8542A repeater is not a bulb
      The bulb had a 1 game tick delay, while repeaters have 2 game ticks.
      The importance of this 1 game tick, is that All redstone components work on multiples of 2, so entering these odd ticks is very important for precise timing.
      You have one movable block that did that (bulb), while all other options are not movable or too big. That's the problem.

  • @plasmeticsondai7851
    @plasmeticsondai7851 Před 6 měsíci +100

    this is so true, even though i am not a redstoner myself i was really excited for the crafter and how fast it could make items, but now it has unnecacary restrictions that i don't understand why. mojang, i would really love it if you reverted all of these changes

    • @ExeEspe-by2ct
      @ExeEspe-by2ct Před 6 měsíci +6

      Even with the change from 1 tick to 4 tick, the crafter seems pretty fast still, I understand that having it’s efficiency quartered is annoying, but it’s still automatic crafting is it not?

    • @hefdef9961
      @hefdef9961 Před 6 měsíci +7

      @@ExeEspe-by2ct yeah lets get rid of a quarter of the blocks too! thats annoying, but its still minecraft, right? make movement speed super slow... but it still there at least!!

    • @ExeEspe-by2ct
      @ExeEspe-by2ct Před 6 měsíci +5

      @@hefdef9961 good job, you’ve defeated a strawman. But seriously, what is so wrong about the 4 tick speed? Minecraft runs at 20 ticks/second meaning you can craft 5 items/second or 300 items/minute, what about that says useless block to you?
      If you’re interested the 1 tick can spit out 1200 items/minute, pretty impressive, but could you imagine any more than two of those running at a time on a server? Thousands of entities being created in seconds? Trust me, the Crafter is gonna be gamebreaking enough as is

    • @hefdef9961
      @hefdef9961 Před 6 měsíci +7

      @@ExeEspe-by2ct there are enough ways to make lag as is i don't see why adding another is suddenly the devil

    • @ExeEspe-by2ct
      @ExeEspe-by2ct Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@hefdef9961 it’s not just the lag though? Even with the 4 tick speed you can pump out insane amounts of items with very minimal effort, combine that with some of the automated farms that have been made possible in previous updates and I can guarantee that the crafter is going to irrevocably change Minecraft as we know it almost in spite of the fact that it’s got a prerequisite degree in redstoning before you can use it effectively

  • @steam-powereddolphin5449
    @steam-powereddolphin5449 Před 6 měsíci +109

    If this goes through, I wouldn't be surprised if somebody attempts to make a mod solely to undo the unfavorable changes and encourages a lot of players to use it...

    • @transexualattentionseeking7509
      @transexualattentionseeking7509 Před 3 měsíci

      Already happened.
      However I'm surprised about the whining about the autocrafter.
      It's way to powerfull as it was, and it is yet another recipe wasting a oppurtunity to give the absolutely useless new metal a reason to exist.
      My new recipe that reflects it's power:
      | C | R | C |
      |IB |CB|IB|
      |RB| D |RB|
      C= Copper Ingot
      R= Repeater
      IB = Iron Block
      CB = Crafting Bench.
      RB = Redstone Block.
      D = Dropper.
      That's far more appropiate for how broken this block is going to be.
      And add a setting for speed in ticks for the Autocrafter, default 4. Min 1, max 72000

  • @nutsi3
    @nutsi3 Před 6 měsíci +613

    Next they will make it so copper bulbs are solid blocks and need to be constantly powered to be consistent with red stone lamps

    • @egbert5871
      @egbert5871 Před 6 měsíci +71

      Good idea ill make a bug report kek

    • @L3thalBones
      @L3thalBones Před 6 měsíci +13

      Stop giving them ideas

    • @georgeofhamilton
      @georgeofhamilton Před 6 měsíci +11

      Might as well make all the blocks completely consistent with each other.

    • @smolwhiteboi486
      @smolwhiteboi486 Před 6 měsíci +19

      @@georgeofhamiltonremove red stone completely for the sake of consistency. Also now all blocks drop dirt and have the dirt texture and just are dirt. Ya know, for consistency.

    • @nutsi3
      @nutsi3 Před 6 měsíci +3

      @@smolwhiteboi486 also who needs a player character, the player is now just staring at a black screen for consistency because blocks can’t see so why should you

  • @Gurkewasser22
    @Gurkewasser22 Před 6 měsíci +391

    If they want to create a delay on copper bulbs, they should add different delay for different stages of copper weathering

    • @Samstercraft77
      @Samstercraft77 Před 6 měsíci +42

      this

    • @rubixtheslime
      @rubixtheslime Před 6 měsíci +21

      i could back this one. i'm in the minority of people that was glad to hear they changed the delay, but both is better

    • @nintySW
      @nintySW Před 6 měsíci +32

      @@rubixtheslime Why? I have seen a few people who i can only assume are trolling argue for it, so im curious as to some actual reasons you could prefer the delay to be longer.

    • @rubixtheslime
      @rubixtheslime Před 6 měsíci +30

      @@nintySW this ended up being pretty long, sorry about that. just trying to get my thoughts down.
      i prefer the instant behavior, while most people prefer the delay. when i first saw the bulb, i figured it was supposed to be a simple t flip flop first and foremost, without other behavior that could hamper that ability. so when i found out it has a delay, i felt like it kinda ruined it, as that directly means the signal would get misaligned the moment it passes through a bulb. many of the ideas i originally had became simply worse with the delay. to clarify, this is counter to most people's opinions.
      main reason i like the instant behavior really just comes down to, it's faster and simpler. and it's not like having it instant is useless for observer tech anyways, we finally have a block that changes state when receiving power but not when losing power, which is something i remember needing multiple times in the past (unless i'm reading things wrong, as i haven't spent the spoons to mess around with the bulbs myself yet). i really like the idea of a bulb being a nice beginner friendly t flip flop, no strings attached. and i'd have to mess around with it first to verify (mainly to confirm it doesn't use a block event or something), but it looks like it could be very helpful for instant comparator logic, which is something i've been working a lot with lately.
      in my own experience, i've found that whenever i do need an odd tick delay, scaffolding, leaves, pistons, water, player inputs, etc. have always been enough for me personally, at least to the extent that i don't think the delay is warranted enough when it will inherently impact the bulb's main feature. plus, if we ever get a different block that has a 1gt delay after being powered, that would easily make the delayed bulb worse than an instant one.
      i will admit that this video did present something i hadn't actually considered before: bulbs being the only movable odd delay generators other than pistons. but again, if we were to have a block that creates an odd delay when powered, i'd much rather it be separate from the bulb.
      there's also the part where, i've seen this exact situation go down so many times before. people say that Mojang is about to "ruin" a feature, without even taking the time to see if other new things are possible with the so-called "ruined" behavior. and with few exceptions, people have always found other amazing new stuff that was only possible with the "ruined" behavior. so i'm a bit opposed to the mindset of taking weeks of work (the stuff found with the delayed bulbs) and comparing it to zero days of work (stuff found with the instant bulbs) and saying "all is lost! Mojang has ruined the feature! clearly this is a terrible change!" before actually giving the new tech a chance, no matter how "obvious" it may seem that one side is better. the mentality of not checking because i think it's obvious is what kept me in a cult for so long. it's that blinding and i don't want to risk it taking away any more joy from my life.
      at the end of the day though, i'll be fine either way. these days i try not to invest too much stock into singular new features revolutionizing the game, just enjoy the game, and only ready the pitchforks when it's something i think is truly important to address. (... i say after writing multiple paragraphs about one block getting changed)

    • @Samstercraft77
      @Samstercraft77 Před 6 měsíci +26

      im thinking of submitting a false bug report for this since apparently thats the new suggestions page lmao

  • @macchupicchu3
    @macchupicchu3 Před 6 měsíci +60

    You're channeling the same frustration I felt when they recently removed the word "whilst" from death messages for no reason at all. Hopefully at least the copper bulb behavior gets reverted

  • @SnivyTries
    @SnivyTries Před 6 měsíci +90

    Honestly, I just wish they would release something like Copper Wire. Redstone, but it can go on walls or ceilings, with an expanded conductivity for length compared to redstone dust.

    • @the3dluxe53
      @the3dluxe53 Před 6 měsíci +4

      I’ve said this but for redstone items that contain gold as well. It could be a cheaper alternative with a slight drawback of oxidizing overtime leading to decreased performance but could be preserved in the same way as other copper blocks.

    • @ethan20559
      @ethan20559 Před 6 měsíci +1

      mods exist

    • @MarloTheBlueberry
      @MarloTheBlueberry Před 6 měsíci

      ok.

    • @BlueKirby808
      @BlueKirby808 Před 6 měsíci

      I had the same idea, except I had the idea that redstone and copper wire could be directly next to each other without connecting to one another, so that copper wires could be used like repeaters, but without delays.
      Also came up with its crafting recipe idea:
      1 copper ingot can be crafted into 4 copper wires

    • @frozenover_exe
      @frozenover_exe Před 4 měsíci

      The only problem with that is why would anyone use redstone dust? Copper is infinitely more abundant and there’s seemingly no drawback to the wire, so all use the dust could’ve had in builds is now replaced entirely and it’s left as just a crafting ingredient

  • @mymyrrah
    @mymyrrah Před 6 měsíci +1342

    Mojang will do something extraordinary, then wait a week and totally ruin it for no reason whatsoever.

    • @Felix-tz6hn
      @Felix-tz6hn Před 6 měsíci +41

      That's why I only care about new mods

    • @Jen-hen
      @Jen-hen Před 6 měsíci

      my content reigns supreme on all of youtube

    • @cherricake1796
      @cherricake1796 Před 6 měsíci +23

      ​@@CheeseMisermy previous comment was deleted due to being too rude
      Let that tell you the community's disappointment in you

    • @CheeseMiser
      @CheeseMiser Před 6 měsíci +2

      @@cherricake1796 yall professional complainers.

    • @aoqia
      @aoqia Před 6 měsíci +25

      @@CheeseMiser Professional brain damage is what you have

  • @Boooo
    @Boooo Před 6 měsíci +499

    If they're looking to make things consistent with each other, maybe they should make other horse armours than leather craftable, or let us craft wool back into string, or nether wart blocks into nether wart, or let us attach chests to camels

    • @LibraryofAcousticMagic3240
      @LibraryofAcousticMagic3240 Před 6 měsíci +46

      or you know CAULDRONS

    • @Datsyoashley
      @Datsyoashley Před 6 měsíci +3

      @@LibraryofAcousticMagic3240what do cauldrons have anything to do with this?

    • @LibraryofAcousticMagic3240
      @LibraryofAcousticMagic3240 Před 6 měsíci +59

      @@Datsyoashley so remember how you can't place water in the nether? you can put it in a cauldron either way. Remember how water nullifies your fall damage? Doesn't apply to water that's in cauldrons. I think there's more with lava cauldrons but you get the idea

    • @Datsyoashley
      @Datsyoashley Před 6 měsíci +6

      @@LibraryofAcousticMagic3240 oof completely forgot about that

    • @berkhero3006
      @berkhero3006 Před 6 měsíci +29

      ​@@LibraryofAcousticMagic3240don't forget bedrock players being able to put potions into cauldrons! Make it universal because its both asteticly and functionally apealing

  • @marshallleevalentine
    @marshallleevalentine Před 6 měsíci +67

    I hope they revert back because this update actually felt like an update to be excited about.

    • @graystone2802
      @graystone2802 Před 6 měsíci +3

      I really don't see why it matters whether the autocrafters craft items fast or extremely fast. Having continuity between droppers dispensers and crafters seems reasonable. I cannot imagine that this change would be enough to make the update not exciting

    • @NoahArrondelle
      @NoahArrondelle Před 6 měsíci +5

      ​@@graystone2802what about the copper bulb though?

  • @Why_Not8
    @Why_Not8 Před 6 měsíci +133

    Let's GO MOJANG. You're doing SO GREAT WITH YOUR GAME. I'm so proud of you for taking things that had no problem and changing it. I'm so glad a lot of my favorite parts of the game have been changed.

    • @AxtonTheObstagoon
      @AxtonTheObstagoon Před 6 měsíci +24

      in case anyone comes in here to take this literally, and it will most likely happen, OP is using something we like to call "sarcasm" in which we say the opposite of what we mean in a manner that's supposed to be obvious. and for those who want to call me "captain obvious" i envy you for never encountering simple-minded people with single-digit IQs

    • @timestopgaming2674
      @timestopgaming2674 Před 6 měsíci +2

      lol@@AxtonTheObstagoon

    • @AxtonTheObstagoon
      @AxtonTheObstagoon Před 6 měsíci +5

      @@timestopgaming2674 you have no idea how many times i've seen it happen. Might as well set the precautions to try and help stop some of it from happening here

    • @SomeIceGuy
      @SomeIceGuy Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@AxtonTheObstagoon🫡

    • @aquaknight2269
      @aquaknight2269 Před 6 měsíci

      ​@@AxtonTheObstagoonScrew that, I envy you for not encountering any pea-brained people with an IQ in the negative numbers.

  • @rezonantsarachnids5351
    @rezonantsarachnids5351 Před 6 měsíci +528

    I can cope with the crafter changes but the bulb change is an absolute killer

    • @SuperDZ555
      @SuperDZ555 Před 6 měsíci +57

      @@OFFICERJIMMYUTTPL + dont care + damage free + it's blue

    • @Calbjrd
      @Calbjrd Před 6 měsíci +19

      ​@@OFFICERJIMMYUTTPyou didn't need to put this comment here + this video is about minecraft Redstone not minecraft animation

    • @chloeholmes4641
      @chloeholmes4641 Před 6 měsíci +14

      ​@Calbjrd it's a bot! Look at their comments history!

    • @Calbjrd
      @Calbjrd Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@chloeholmes4641 yeah

    • @minecchannel2006
      @minecchannel2006 Před 6 měsíci

      Same thing.

  • @ThatJay283
    @ThatJay283 Před 6 měsíci +450

    I'm especially disappointed with the copper bulb change. I don't mind if the crafter change stays (it literally has a dropper in its recipe), but the copper bulb change was just extremely disappointing. I was thinking mojang just gave us a more intuitive and more compact way to do 1 tick timing, but clearly someone at mojang had the opinion that it was a bug rather than a feature.

    • @edvinjohansson9625
      @edvinjohansson9625 Před 6 měsíci

      All it takes is one fat guy in a suit that has never played the game to ruin everything for everyone else

    • @gleamingcolt
      @gleamingcolt Před 6 měsíci +10

      But I thought mojang called bugs features?

    • @ThatJay283
      @ThatJay283 Před 6 měsíci +30

      @@gleamingcolt they do both. a thing i found about the copper bulb situation was the feature was not removed because of the reported reasons, but it was actually removed because implementing the same functionality on bedrock would mean fixing bedrock redstone.

    • @EdepolFox
      @EdepolFox Před 6 měsíci +26

      @@ThatJay283 If that's their actual reasoning I'm not surprised but god damn that's so nothing considering bedrock redstone is different from Java redstone anyway. Just kinda self-contradictory.
      Reminds me of the Beat Saber devs stating that the reason you had to buy Beat Saber separately on the Quest from the Rift despite them being on the same store was that they "don't want to alienate vive players" the same day as announcing a timed-exclusive PSVR song pack.

    • @keenico7730
      @keenico7730 Před 6 měsíci +5

      ​@@EdepolFox i dont get why they dont fix bedrock redstone though, all redstoners play java for a reason and if they want people to play bedrock so much why not fix a major issue with bedrock edition

  • @SJrad
    @SJrad Před 6 měsíci +180

    I don’t really mind the crafter change, it still seems quite fast. the bulb change however sucks because it was so unique and opens up a ton of possibilities

    • @HarmlessRealityBreaker
      @HarmlessRealityBreaker Před 6 měsíci +27

      Yea if nothing else is reverted, I hope the bulb gets reverted

    • @fldom4610
      @fldom4610 Před 6 měsíci +1

      dont worry its a snapshot they just want to see the impact on the community iam sure they will change it

    • @hjagu1323
      @hjagu1323 Před 6 měsíci

      Yep, and without the crafter change java auto crafting systems would be *a lot* faster then there bedrock equivalents

    • @steevelapointe1152
      @steevelapointe1152 Před 5 měsíci

      dont forget mojang dont listen to the community, thyey never , and they never will, the change will not be revert, and its not a problem, still have plenty of use of the bulb.... pple over reacting too much, im not even the best redstoner, but the bulb will help me, ive already made ton of logic gate using it, whch was imossible to do without this block. stop over reacting, the bulb is fine like this, and clearly not useless, pple saying this dont know redstone.....stop over reacting@@fldom4610

  • @skaidonC
    @skaidonC Před 6 měsíci +19

    Honestly, as Mojang seems to pay so much attention to bug reports (first 'fixing' horse breeding to be super easy thus invalidating ilmango's work) and now the copper bulb, its given me an idea.... why not fight fire with fire?
    As the 1GT delay for the copper bulb was clearly 'intentional' behaviour given how it was intelligent game design, the change to make it a 2GT delay was clearly an accidental oversight and therefore must be a bug; so write a bug report how the 2GT delay on Bedrock was clearly a parity issue and both bedrock and Java should have 1GT delay AS INTENDED.
    2:
    As Mojang have stated, through official channels, multiple times, how Quasi-Connectivity is a feature, not a bug, the lack of Quasi-Connectivity in Bedrock edition must therefore - clearly, be a bug, and should be be corrected for the sake of parity.
    EDIT: Have opened a bug report about the lack of QC in Bedrock

    • @mini-_
      @mini-_ Před 5 měsíci

      How did the bug report go?

    • @skaidonC
      @skaidonC Před 5 měsíci

      @@mini-_ Not well :(
      The moderators (not even Mojang!) just referenced a previous similar bug report (since closed) that was essentially "The lack of QC in Bedrock is intentional".
      So as other Minecraft content creators have pointed out - it's the technical MC community that has to constantly justify their existence to Mojang.
      My opinion - the only LONG-TERM solution to this problem is to delay a major update and spend the time productively creating 100% parity between Bedrock and Java (essentially making them the same game) and only then move forward with new releases, because then you can balance equally across both platforms - not to mention it would enable crossplay.

    • @mini-_
      @mini-_ Před 5 měsíci

      Aww that's a shame about the bug report, but kinda expected with how Minecraft/Mojang/whoever seems to treat the technical side of Minecraft.

  • @jasperderonde5895
    @jasperderonde5895 Před 6 měsíci +83

    _Exactly._ The initial reception of these 2 blocks was incredible: video after video appeared about how groundbreaking these features were. They *must* have seen them, why undo these positive features??
    In fact, when asked, one of the developers on Twitter even said the Copper Bulb's 1-tick delay was *intentional*. It's not a bug. Don't knock down your reputation again when you were just rebuilding it, Mojang... 😬

  • @ArtsabizabYT
    @ArtsabizabYT Před 6 měsíci +1211

    Mojang never fails to excite and disappoint.

    • @JimmyBoy321
      @JimmyBoy321 Před 6 měsíci +33

      so true, the major redstone update has lost my support.

    • @Nalacat322
      @Nalacat322 Před 6 měsíci +9

      Why Mojang Why!!!

    • @badcropbean
      @badcropbean Před 6 měsíci +5

      @@OFFICERJIMMYUTTPno

    • @badcropbean
      @badcropbean Před 6 měsíci

      @@Nicks-TailholeSniffer first time? 🤔

    • @badcropbean
      @badcropbean Před 6 měsíci

      @@Nicks-TailholeSniffer No I was saying what did you mean when you said first time

  • @Cideorsmth
    @Cideorsmth Před 6 měsíci +5

    The guy who reported it as a bug is probably the same guy who reminds the teacher about the homework

  • @w00tyd00d
    @w00tyd00d Před 6 měsíci +19

    If anything, droppers and dispensers should've had their drop rate _improved_ to match that of the crafters, not the other way around.

  • @iSchmidty13
    @iSchmidty13 Před 6 měsíci +423

    Mojang has proven to be an absolute mess. Every once in a while they do something right. But they act more like a group of random strangers accessing the same google doc than an actual organized company.
    Which is pretty weird for one of the biggest game developers in the world lol

    • @Myne1001
      @Myne1001 Před 6 měsíci +19

      The fact this is still happening after the 2017 glazed_terracotta controversy is still amazing

    • @algotkristoffersson15
      @algotkristoffersson15 Před 6 měsíci +2

      @@Myne1001 ?

    • @HaartieeTRUE
      @HaartieeTRUE Před 6 měsíci +2

      ​@@Myne1001what controversy?

    • @x3no941
      @x3no941 Před 6 měsíci +3

      just looked it up some of the old glazed terracotta textures would make a swastika in a 2x2 lol@@HaartieeTRUE

    • @Myne1001
      @Myne1001 Před 6 měsíci +38

      @@HaartieeTRUE back in 2017, Mojang made it clear they were reworking pistons and fixing "bugs" like quasi-connectivity and fast pulsing sticky pistons dropping blocks. These things were argued to be features by the redstone community as they were critical in many inventions, especially slime block flying machines.
      When this was raised, one of the devs said "If you need a piston to drop a block, just used a glazed_terracotta?" which was immediately meme'd by tons of people in the community.
      The backlash lead to some of the devs joining a huge discord call with many prominent technical Minecraft players (most of them SciCraft) explaining how the complex behaviours of pistons are what makes them good and removing these so called "bugs" would ruin this aspect of the game. Mojang devs agreed and decided they were now features.
      Here we are now 6 years later and its happening again for the crafter and the copper bulb. Hopefully Mojang will listen once again.

  • @raznaak
    @raznaak Před 6 měsíci +231

    The crafter having a cap is understandable at least, it helps with timing the filling of it so you get less half-filled crafters that craft unintended things. Sure it limits its uses, but it is understandable at least and a healthy debate can be had about it, a capped crafter for convenience of use for most people versus an uncapped crafter that is more powerful but a lot more tricky to use (Mumbo had a LOT of troubles to get the timings right, for example, and he's not exactly redstone illiterate...).
    The copper bulb change is absolutely, irrevocably, completely moronic and should immediately be reverted to what it was.

    • @MidnightDoom777
      @MidnightDoom777 Před 6 měsíci +12

      For getting less half filled crates, just don’t use that fast of a clock

    • @atomix314
      @atomix314 Před 6 měsíci +14

      The crafter still has to reverted as well, having no delay can have so many intrusting uses.

    • @buragi5441
      @buragi5441 Před 6 měsíci

      This. Wanna have slower crafter?? Make slower clock. Don't limit the crafter.@@MidnightDoom777

  • @noahblack914
    @noahblack914 Před 6 měsíci +19

    Y'know, every day it gets harder to come to Mojang's defense. They created one of my favorite things ever, and they just make the strangest decisions about how to develop it.

  • @Nyver253
    @Nyver253 Před 6 měsíci +16

    I swear Mojang loves to sit there and look at why or what the community likes with each patch/part of the game them just remove it and never revert it despite all the complaints. 10/10 snapshot Mojang, I would say never change but they’d probably take it seriously.

  • @austinwheeler4328
    @austinwheeler4328 Před 6 měsíci +185

    The way I see it, this is if they added honey blocks, and then after a week, decided made them stick to slime blocks. It feels counterintuitive to make these changes. To limit a block because they provided a redstone purpose they didn't intend would throw things like targets and cauldrons out the window for the sole reason that mojang didn't intend them to work the way they do in common redstone contraptions.

    • @tovarishcheleonora8542
      @tovarishcheleonora8542 Před 6 měsíci

      Tho, you still have repeaters that can be used for the same purpose, and they are easily adjustable to 3 different speed/block. I'm pretty sure that the bulb just meant to be a redstone lamp but with copper theme and not signal timer.

    • @genio2509
      @genio2509 Před 6 měsíci +37

      ​@@tovarishcheleonora8542Not again. Bulbs are not repeaters.
      Bulbs operated on 1 game tick, while repeaters and all other redstone components operate on 2 game ticks. These odd ticks is what made it special, as it allows for very precise timing.

    • @austinwheeler4328
      @austinwheeler4328 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@tovarishcheleonora8542 I think it was also meant to be a t-flip-flop but I could be wrong about that :)

    • @mcswashbuckler3833
      @mcswashbuckler3833 Před 6 měsíci +32

      ​@@tovarishcheleonora8542do you think redstoners all forgot about repeaters, or is it more likely that you don't know what the hell you're talking about?

    • @tovarishcheleonora8542
      @tovarishcheleonora8542 Před 6 měsíci

      @@genio2509 The only thing you can bring up on the side of bulb are the "1 instead 2" and "movable".
      Also the thing you worship that much are very likely was just an error in the code and not intentional. Because it very surely was just a "redstone lamp" witrh copper design for the new challenge dungeons which is mostly made out of copper. And not to be a tick timer.

  • @TwentySeventhLetter
    @TwentySeventhLetter Před 6 měsíci +472

    I don't see the crafter nerf as quite so bad, though I definitely want it reverted, but the bulb nerf feels like it's gutting the one block that finally serves as a sink for copper as a utility. We've been begging for a copper redstone components since it was released, so I really want the first one to make a splash on launch of its debut update.

  • @steampunkWizardStudios
    @steampunkWizardStudios Před 6 měsíci +23

    Even with no official mod API, the community has done so much development, refining and perfecting for the game. They should really take a page out of our book here.

  • @FlintSparkedStudios
    @FlintSparkedStudios Před 6 měsíci +18

    I feel like they should really gear this towards how the redstoners want it, because most other players will hardly use the crafter and copper bulbs

    • @Dumbrarere
      @Dumbrarere Před 6 měsíci +1

      Copper bulbs light up, right? They could be a nicer looking alternative to Redstone Lamps, while having the sane functionality.

    • @Skaffa
      @Skaffa Před 3 měsíci +1

      lol

  • @CraftyMasterman
    @CraftyMasterman Před 6 měsíci +180

    they really just blueballed the entire redstone community with this one lol

    • @Mr.plv767
      @Mr.plv767 Před 6 měsíci +3

      No one cares about Microsoft buying mojang and adding 1.9 and breaking redstone and minecarft

    • @Dragona-
      @Dragona- Před 6 měsíci

      bro let the man comment just because he has a checkmark doesnt mean he's chasing clout by commenting@@Mr.plv767

    • @michael23b
      @michael23b Před 6 měsíci +1

      lmao

    • @mcarctic
      @mcarctic Před 6 měsíci +13

      @@Mr.plv767 I care

    • @duck-that-is-mighty-and-quacky
      @duck-that-is-mighty-and-quacky Před 6 měsíci +7

      @@Mr.plv767 Out of the billions of people on this earth, I shall find one person who cares

  • @hayasakaaaa
    @hayasakaaaa Před 6 měsíci +259

    Clearly Mojang intends you to use logs and leafs, and scaffolding in redstone, it’s just how things are meant to be!

    • @guncolony
      @guncolony Před 6 měsíci +56

      imagine mojang now changing target blocks because it didnt fit their intended redstone behavior

    • @uninable
      @uninable Před 6 měsíci +4

      obviously you’re supposed to use trapdoors, scaffoldings, and observers to create an odd tick delay 🤦🤦🤦

  • @bobmigarski283
    @bobmigarski283 Před 6 měsíci +8

    I love how a game that prides itself on being a "do whatever you want" sandbox makes it so you can't do whatever you want.

  • @NieMamNicku
    @NieMamNicku Před 5 měsíci +4

    Mojang always does this in such situations
    some people don't like the changes = we reverse them
    most people don't like the changes = we leave them

  • @mymyrrah
    @mymyrrah Před 6 měsíci +343

    Mojang’s recent obsession with “consistency” is bordering insanity. There’s no reason for this!

    • @kate_isawesome1207
      @kate_isawesome1207 Před 6 měsíci +27

      Yeah! I don't know why!
      That's one of the reason why Mojang is a terrible company!

    • @4203105
      @4203105 Před 6 měsíci +62

      And they always seem to make it the first version to make it consistent. When is Java finally getting potion cauldrons or moveable tile entities to make it consistent with bedrock?

    • @pug8714
      @pug8714 Před 6 měsíci +1

      ​@@kate_isawesome1207a bit far

    • @kate_isawesome1207
      @kate_isawesome1207 Před 6 měsíci

      They should add them to Java.
      They also needs to add the lead can be use for boats to Java.@@4203105

    • @kate_isawesome1207
      @kate_isawesome1207 Před 6 měsíci

      He makes a lot of mistakes. They even breaks and nerfed features that we like. They also makes things that we hate so strong.(such as creepers, skeletons etc.)@@pug8714

  • @YaPhutYT
    @YaPhutYT Před 6 měsíci +358

    The one time mojang gets it good first try, they revert it.

    • @SomeD00D01
      @SomeD00D01 Před 6 měsíci +5

      One time?

    • @mymyrrah
      @mymyrrah Před 6 měsíci +48

      @@SomeD00D01they’ve been fumbling the bag for 3 years now

    • @_aWiseMan
      @_aWiseMan Před 6 měsíci +11

      Copper goat horns..........
      😢

    • @SomeD00D01
      @SomeD00D01 Před 6 měsíci +2

      @@mymyrrah that's what I'm saying lol

    • @Stab.a_Saurus
      @Stab.a_Saurus Před 6 měsíci

      lol

  • @sebieffer8595
    @sebieffer8595 Před 4 měsíci +4

    Let's all curse the guy who reported the fake bug

  • @Kaze-Kagura
    @Kaze-Kagura Před 6 měsíci +5

    Time for the redstone community to hunt down whoever made that bug report for the crafter block

  • @chillstoneblakeblast3172
    @chillstoneblakeblast3172 Před 6 měsíci +95

    I think this is going to be one of those changes that get reverted quickly. Last time something was deeply requested by the players, it was Honey and slime not sticking and it changed redstone forever

    • @geekie9532
      @geekie9532 Před 6 měsíci +7

      Shoulda hoped about this for the firefly

  • @infinitywarrior4620
    @infinitywarrior4620 Před 6 měsíci +143

    I'm not a Redstone genius myself, but even I understand how revolutionary the copper bulb was, and still learning little bits of interesting facts. I do really hope this change is reverted since I do agree on how it's unfair to match the tick speed, but the 1 tick delay allows for precise measurements and timing. Also the second contraption with consistent piston timing looks very smooth.

  • @enderkatze6129
    @enderkatze6129 Před 6 měsíci +21

    Maybe they should add a way to change the speed of dispensers and droppers instead

    • @digitalmatt1
      @digitalmatt1 Před 6 měsíci

      sounds like yet *another* bug report to file (i'm a broken record here)

  • @VoidedVoidedVoidedVoid
    @VoidedVoidedVoidedVoid Před 6 měsíci +5

    mojang: adds something
    everyone: absolutly loves it
    mojang: just nerfs it
    its as if mojang is doing this on purpose

  • @CATLOAFMAN
    @CATLOAFMAN Před 6 měsíci +344

    I am so hoping this is just another "noteblocks can only be silenced by wool" situation

    • @adumbchicken8022
      @adumbchicken8022 Před 6 měsíci +13

      sorry could you explain what this means? im not familiar with that situation.

    • @moofurg
      @moofurg Před 6 měsíci +76

      Mojang tried to change note blocks but reverted it later

    • @CATLOAFMAN
      @CATLOAFMAN Před 6 měsíci

      @@adumbchicken8022 Purplers actually made a video on this a while back just look through his channel for a video about noteblocks

    • @aguyontheinternet8436
      @aguyontheinternet8436 Před 6 měsíci +85

      @@adumbchicken8022 I think it's about when they changed noteblocks to fit with skulk, putting wool on top of them would be the only way to mute them, making a lot of compact redstone machines suddenly incredibly noisy and annoying

    • @fondbeebboop9705
      @fondbeebboop9705 Před 6 měsíci +21

      @@adumbchicken8022 instead of any block on top of the noteblock they made it only wool nobody like how noisy things became

  • @MonocleMC
    @MonocleMC Před 6 měsíci +26

    Mojang should really listen to the community on this one, I don't even make Redstone videos and I was very excited for the copper bulb, and crafter.

  • @LarryDeskPlant
    @LarryDeskPlant Před měsícem +2

    Looks like Mojang doesn't want us to have fun in their entertainment product.

  • @emmetthomeaccount4637
    @emmetthomeaccount4637 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Whoever gave that bug report is a monster.

  • @Dave-cg9li
    @Dave-cg9li Před 6 měsíci +302

    The crafter and copper bulb are obviously still great, but I really hope these changes get reverted. Mojang likes adding blocks with unique properties, and this is an amazing opportunity

    • @nnnik3595
      @nnnik3595 Před 6 měsíci +9

      nah the copper bulb is lowkey useless now.

    • @KidPrarchord95
      @KidPrarchord95 Před 6 měsíci +17

      ​@@nnnik3595Tell us you don't know much about redstone without telling us you don't know much about redstone.

    • @seard8442
      @seard8442 Před 6 měsíci +8

      To me who doesn’t do redstone but still knows something, copper bulb basically is a t flip flop right?
      So 1 tick makes complete sense because it does extra things, why they would change it to instant?
      Crafter having smaller cool-down is reasonable as well. Crafter works like a player moving cursor and crafting, so small tick should make sense as you move your cursor to output slot.

    • @mickys8065
      @mickys8065 Před 6 měsíci +8

      @@KidPrarchord95 It's a 1 block T Flip Flop, which we've had for as long as redstone has been a thing. A 1-tick T Flip Flop, now that's something we haven't had.
      It's like the observer, its a more accessible BUD Detector, but the reason it's so useful is the fact its the only block with a single output side.
      This change is like Mojang making it so an observer outputs redstone on all sides, "So it's consistent with other redstone blocks."

    • @hizk3004
      @hizk3004 Před 6 měsíci +1

      ​@@mickys8065 it's also a movable tflipflop which makes it still as useful and revolutionary

  • @SamCrafter_
    @SamCrafter_ Před 6 měsíci +107

    Mojang after realizing the community actually likes one of the features they put out (they have to ruin it now):

  • @tim..indeed
    @tim..indeed Před 4 měsíci +4

    Crafter changes seem fine was maybe a bit OP before. The other changes are horrible.

  • @outsidefactor
    @outsidefactor Před 6 měsíci +5

    Congrats Mojang, you've done it again and made something that should be amazing into something really boring and valueless.

  • @mathpuppy314
    @mathpuppy314 Před 6 měsíci +123

    Why the heck does Mojang want to make sure everything is "consistent"?? The SINGLE thing that would revive Minecraft is if Mojang would accept concepts that are NEW and UNIQUE.

    • @TwilightChomperEnthusiast
      @TwilightChomperEnthusiast Před 6 měsíci +38

      Same logic as to why they refuse to add vertical slabs: “It LimItS tHE cREatIviTY oF THe PlAYeRs!1!!”

    • @Laura-hl3hg
      @Laura-hl3hg Před 6 měsíci +21

      All other blocks have a different texture from dirt. We corrected this inconsistency by making everything dirt textured! BIG BRAIN

    • @primbin_
      @primbin_ Před 6 měsíci

      If there was no consistency in the design of minecraft, it would be incredibly beginner unfriendly, so IMO consistency isn't that bad of a goal for them to have.

    • @Laura-hl3hg
      @Laura-hl3hg Před 6 měsíci +23

      @@primbin_ >beginners
      >The crafter, which is extremely difficult to use for beginners
      You really think a beginner is able to understand and use the crafter effectively, but can't understand the fact that it doesn't have a delay?

    • @johncronk8867
      @johncronk8867 Před 6 měsíci +5

      @@primbin_dude, any beginner using the crafter also lost out here. The only thing they’re going to use it for are simple recipes at the end of a simple farm, and now they have to wait longer to get what they want crafted. No beginner is going to think “Oh, this crafter doesn’t match the dispenser and dropper’s item dropping rate! How horribly annoying!”-They’re going to think “Sweet, this works faster than the other stuff!”
      Both the simple, obvious use of the crafter and the complex, less apparent uses of the crafter were harmed by the change.

  • @NightHawk-wj9mz
    @NightHawk-wj9mz Před 6 měsíci +59

    These 2 blocks are the only reason why I am even willing to update past 1.19

    • @Myne1001
      @Myne1001 Před 6 měsíci +9

      they were the only reason I was considering giving modern MC a go after playing Beta 1.7.3 for so long

    • @JAMBUILDER08
      @JAMBUILDER08 Před 6 měsíci +3

      ​@@Myne1001yooooo you play modded beta 1.7.3? Back in the days of deleting metainf?

    • @DigitalWolverine
      @DigitalWolverine Před 6 měsíci

      Beta 1.7.3 was my favorite update for a long time

  • @jadinkllz12
    @jadinkllz12 Před 6 měsíci +5

    Those blocks would’ve made me give red stone a second try

  • @sh1012
    @sh1012 Před 5 měsíci +2

    I am still a beginner at redstone, and in my opinion they got everything right the first time, both in looks and redstone fuctionality.
    As a beginner I do not know much about ticks, but it is far easier to learn that the cubber bulb ofset things, instead of some cheat with scaffolding.

  • @superking100
    @superking100 Před 6 měsíci +14

    I heard about this change, but I didn't know that someone actually suggested it as a BUG REPORT?! Like??? Whoever that was had to have been trolling???

    • @kmb600
      @kmb600 Před 6 měsíci

      The villager curing nerf was also done due to a bug report. Usually unannounced mechanics tend to go on the bug tracker because it is unknown whether they are intentional or not (and anyways Mojang perfectly has the option of marking the report as Won't Fix or Works As Intended instead of fixing it)
      And I don't think the reporter was trolling. They just saw some inconsistency (I know the video mentions the differences between the crafter and the dropper but the focus is on the dropping behavior itself), thought it was a bug, and reported it. Simple as that. They had no control over Mojang seeing it and deciding to fix it.

    • @algotkristoffersson15
      @algotkristoffersson15 Před 6 měsíci

      @@kmb600the villager curing thing makes sense to call a bug, but the solution doesn’t make sense, maybe instead make it so that there is an ai [As in a real AI not this chat GPT stuff but one that passes every turring test thrown at them and is obviously sapient,] who’s job (for which they recive fair compensation) is to essentially DM the game, controlling the mobs to make intelligent decisions, including having the villagers judge if you infected them on purpose in order to cure them or not and raise instead of lowering their prices if so.

  • @Kirokill1
    @Kirokill1 Před 6 měsíci +70

    4:16 I imagine they did not know the weight of the change they did and thought the changes they made are better.
    You did a very good job in this video to demonstrate the differences and I hope they listen and give the redstoners their wish.

  • @_KingMe
    @_KingMe Před 6 měsíci +2

    mojang:i'm going to add a new block
    community(millions of people):It's good!!!
    1 person:mojang,you need to change this!!!
    mojang:i'm going to listen to 1 person instead of a few million people

  • @featherfruit
    @featherfruit Před 6 měsíci

    this needs to spread around more. very important!

  • @findot777
    @findot777 Před 6 měsíci +23

    mojang acting like redstone blocks have any consistency

  • @SirPogsalotCreates
    @SirPogsalotCreates Před 6 měsíci +33

    I think maybe Mojang just had an idea for a change and figured they could put the updated crafter and bulb in a snapshot to get a sense of how people feel about the changes. maybe they were never planning on these changes being permanent unless the community liked them (which obviously didn't happen)?

    • @Koipiok
      @Koipiok Před 6 měsíci +8

      Let’s hope (but knowing mojang…)

    • @SlinxTheFox
      @SlinxTheFox Před 6 měsíci +1

      which means we should keep being publicly angry about it, in case that is the case

    • @SirPogsalotCreates
      @SirPogsalotCreates Před 6 měsíci

      @@SlinxTheFox idk about *angry* necessarily but yes we do need to be communicative

    • @BigMastah79
      @BigMastah79 Před 6 měsíci

      @@Koipiok This is a very small tweak, which Mojang has a history of making when the community asks for it. Like keeping Quasi Connectivity or Swift Sneak on Leggings. It’s not like they hate their playerbase.

  • @daBluechimp
    @daBluechimp Před 6 měsíci +2

    I was actually considering getting back into Minecraft and getting into Redstone again, but if this is the attitude Mojang is gonna have than screw that

  • @bacon_with_brussels_sprout
    @bacon_with_brussels_sprout Před 4 měsíci +1

    Ngl the auto crafter spitting out an outrageous amount of redstone looked like something out of a minecraft blender animation from 2015

  • @glowpon3
    @glowpon3 Před 6 měsíci +31

    We can fix the crafter by making more, I suppose that's fine, but the nerf totally destroys the copper bulb. Even in the uses for memory storage, they just made things more complicated again.

    • @tovarishcheleonora8542
      @tovarishcheleonora8542 Před 6 měsíci

      To be fair, it's actually a good thing that they made the crafter slower. Because it would be problematic on servers pretty quickly (because of lag machine potentials in the old speed).
      And for the bulb, you still can use repeaters, not to mention that the repeaters are adjustable with 3 speed options/repeater.

    • @Aid5Patient
      @Aid5Patient Před 6 měsíci +10

      @@tovarishcheleonora8542 @genio2509 "Not again. Bulbs are not repeaters.
      Bulbs operated on 1 game tick, while repeaters and all other redstone components operate on 2 game ticks. These odd ticks is what made it special, as it allows for very precise timing."

    • @tovarishcheleonora8542
      @tovarishcheleonora8542 Před 6 měsíci

      @@Aid5Patient lol why do you answer me from 3-4 different accounts? XD
      Do you have nothing better to do, Mr bulb worshipper?

    • @Ezoc
      @Ezoc Před 6 měsíci +10

      ​@@tovarishcheleonora8542 bro is malding over being wrong about repeaters and bulbs

    • @tovarishcheleonora8542
      @tovarishcheleonora8542 Před 6 měsíci

      @@Ezoc And there is the 5th account.
      Also i'm not being wrong just because of you decided on that way. 🤣
      Because in fact you still can time the signals with repeaters, even if it's not fast enough for your taste.

  • @S0ulC41ib3r
    @S0ulC41ib3r Před 6 měsíci +47

    I always have been put off by the complexities of redstone but the copper bulb had me excited to get into learning redstone so that I could be able to utilize the simplified designs to achieve cool things. Then Mojang reverts it all? Not cool

    • @BigMastah79
      @BigMastah79 Před 6 měsíci

      Reverts what? A feature that isn’t in the game? You people need to understand this shit is still in development. God, bunch of impatient children

    • @S0ulC41ib3r
      @S0ulC41ib3r Před 6 měsíci +8

      @@BigMastah79 The T flip flop has 2 main designs that are already in the game the copper bulb before the change achieved a T flip flop something that was already in the game in only a single block. Allowing for a 1 game tick pulse meaning we could make faster redstone contraptions ie doors and piston arrays in a more compact design. Also rude of you to insult me for being an impatient child for being excited over a feature to a video game. Grow up

    • @apunishedmannamed2473
      @apunishedmannamed2473 Před 6 měsíci +10

      @@BigMastah79 "God, bunch of impatient children"
      Multi billion dollar backed company can't produce a single full update within a year whilst the original dev was able to make the entirety of the rail system & the nether within a weekend by himself
      Why do you choose to be a bootlicker? I'm curious.

    • @BigMastah79
      @BigMastah79 Před 6 měsíci

      @@apunishedmannamed2473 Okay so yeah that comment came off a bit as bootlicking but I’m not a bootlicker. I am very well reasoned in my defense of Mojang. The vanilla developer have much more work cut out for them than modders or even Notch when adding features. Notch could kinda do whatever the hell he wanted to since the game was a blank slate and no limitations were set by higher-ups or the games direction. That’s not to mention that his code still plagues the game to this day. Minecarts are a good example of why things need to not be rushed, they’re hella jank.
      The game is horribly optimized as well, which is something that should have been done from the start. Coupled with a rocky foundation, Mojang is expected to pump out yearly content updates, which they have been doing. There have been bumps in the road, but I see them as mostly addressed (we do have a feature backlog, but since the game will be update long into the future, it doesn’t bother me).
      So I’m just saying, be a little more patient? We’re getting this content consistently even despite the many extra challenges they face. Be glad we aren’t in a Silksong situation where the devs flat out refuse to communicate with the community despite a five year wait for the game…

    • @3heads0thoughts
      @3heads0thoughts Před 6 měsíci

      ​@@BigMastah79 the entire point of this video is that if you are patient and wait until full release to critique how the bulbs & crafters work, the current changes will be put out as is and then it will be 1000000x more difficult for any kind of change to be implemented
      so "i know it comes off as bootlicking but i'm not a bootlicker" is a useless comment. your goal in this comment sections is "be patient, don't critique, wait for stuff to get fixed" when that is antithetical to the issue.
      basically, idc about your rhetoric, because the things you are saying are in direct opposition to wanting bulbs/crafters to work as a new or unique block, so eat dirt :)

  • @hylobateslar4151
    @hylobateslar4151 Před 6 měsíci +1

    They should perhaps also give different strength of output based on oxidation state. I have a machine concept that would only work if this was implemented

  • @PixelLevis
    @PixelLevis Před 6 měsíci +1

    Mojang: adds some cool things.
    Community: *so happy*
    That one person: "nothing is right change it"
    Mojang: "oki"

  • @tempus_excurrens
    @tempus_excurrens Před 6 měsíci +6

    Hey, if they like consistency so much, maybe make it so that the Copper Bulb is also a Solid Block like the Redstone Lamp so that it would power nearby bulbs as well. Lets ruin the possible future of redstone display screens as well!
    Consistency after all is what only matters!

  • @HDeDeDe
    @HDeDeDe Před 6 měsíci +83

    Haven't played in a while (and haven't done redstone in even longer) but the autocrafter change seems like a change you could justify (server lag, hopper timings, etc.) but I have no idea why they would change the bulb, since that change only takes options away.

    • @vaalalves
      @vaalalves Před 6 měsíci +10

      Easier fix would be to have a gamerule.
      Servers could have a high tick gamerule, while single player could keep the fast ticks.

    • @areadenial2343
      @areadenial2343 Před 6 měsíci +37

      Rather than taking options away, we have an opportunity to give people more options. The copper bulb has four variants, right? Normal, lightly weathered, weathered, and oxidized. Why not give each variant a different delay? As it gets more oxidized, it goes from instant, 1 game tick, 2 game ticks, and 3 game ticks. You can wax the bulb at any stage to lock in the delay. Four times the options!

    • @jkjkrandom
      @jkjkrandom Před 6 měsíci

      ​@@areadenial2343if you haven't already put this in the Minecraft forum so Mojang can see this

    • @HDeDeDe
      @HDeDeDe Před 6 měsíci

      @@vaalalves True!

    • @andrewshiinoki4844
      @andrewshiinoki4844 Před 6 měsíci +3

      @@areadenial2343 I actually like this idea.... MOJANG!!!

  • @ski3r3n
    @ski3r3n Před 6 měsíci +1

    that reporter about to fet cancelled lol

  • @Voron_Aggrav
    @Voron_Aggrav Před 6 měsíci +3

    with the Crafter I see why, the crafting speed was a bit high to me, but Copper Bulbs mate Those where blooming Perfect there was So much we can do with them that wasn't possible Before, and that was the best feature as they had a Unique place to fill that made you want to use them for things instead of others without replacing the others outright

  • @michael23b
    @michael23b Před 6 měsíci +82

    Not only did they ruin the speedy functionality of the bulb and crafter, they also keep making the crafter texture WORSE!!! Seriously they had it perfect the first time. If these changes aren't reverted it's gonna seriously kill most of the excitement for this update as you said.

    • @trevorhaddox6884
      @trevorhaddox6884 Před 6 měsíci +19

      At least textures can be reverted with a simple client side resouce pack. The block mechanics not so much.

    • @risa1467
      @risa1467 Před 6 měsíci +9

      The real reason for the crafter textures being changed is because an orientation pattern can make an accidental... windmill. If you know what I mean.

    • @HellCromeE
      @HellCromeE Před 6 měsíci +19

      ​@@risa1467it's not like you can use literally any block to make a swastika

    • @risa1467
      @risa1467 Před 6 měsíci +3

      @@HellCromeE True, but there is a difference between outright doing that, and having a block's texture accidentally showing an symbol. Obviously, Mojang doesn't want their assets to display unintentional windmills, because they know groups will then wrongly accuse Mojang for subliminal messages.
      No matter how silly they may be; they don't want the liability.

    • @recycledwaste8737
      @recycledwaste8737 Před 6 měsíci +8

      ​@@risa1467You do know there's an entire compilation here on CZcams if people accidentally making that symbol using Mojang's assets, right?
      The changes to the texture are inexcusable.

  • @LuCoolUs
    @LuCoolUs Před 6 měsíci +7

    In a Sandbox game less consistency is more variety so really it's just a good thing.

  • @-Joseph-H-
    @-Joseph-H- Před 6 měsíci +1

    It feels like the moment something good is added, Mojang removes it, on bedrock you used to be able to place buttons and levers on iron bars, fences, and walls, we could make microphone stands, decorated walls, now they removed it, we cant make any of that

  • @DonaldKronos
    @DonaldKronos Před 6 měsíci +2

    Sounds like time to submit a new bug report, explaining how it used to work and is now broken, and suggesting that they can fix it by reverting it back to the way it was when it worked.

  • @MitLimer
    @MitLimer Před 6 měsíci +19

    I feel like the crafter and the copper bolb were the thing I was most exited about because of the opportunitys for the redstone comunity. The crafter would change things that were impossible before but can now be automated. You can craft things at high speed automatic this allows the community to make even bigger projekts. now i feel like they have the intenstion to make the update shit.

  • @Owlzz_
    @Owlzz_ Před 6 měsíci +6

    Nooo mojang please no!!

  • @EEEEEEEEE3
    @EEEEEEEEE3 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Minecraft: doesnt start any controversy with the new update
    Also Minecraft 1 week later:

  • @_IcyCube_
    @_IcyCube_ Před 6 měsíci +1

    I hardly ever use redstone for mechanical builds, but for more artistic builds. Just something to add that extra touch or atmosphere, or making something that looks cool, having easy access to a simple 1tk delay would have been extremely useful for me to enhance some of my current builds or been the main pushing factor for future builds.

  • @Pyrotrainthing
    @Pyrotrainthing Před 6 měsíci +14

    I haven’t touched the snapshots yet I just loved that copper bulbs were making precise redstone machines more compact.

  • @plighting_engineerd
    @plighting_engineerd Před 6 měsíci +5

    Yep, I pretty much predicted the title and thumbnail.
    Edit: after watching, wow. PLEASE MOJANG. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE JUST REVERT THE CHANGES.

  • @szkraft220
    @szkraft220 Před 6 měsíci

    posting this to boost the video!absolutely important for mojang devs to see!

  • @Lamario862
    @Lamario862 Před 3 měsíci +2

    mojang/microsoft, the redstone community is comin for you

    • @Lamario862
      @Lamario862 Před 3 měsíci

      also revert those changed god i tried to build with redstone once and these nerf not existing in the new snapshots would save me hours trying to find out how half the redstone blocks work

  • @gbilo24
    @gbilo24 Před 6 měsíci +16

    I was really excited for the gametick delay of copper bulbs. I hope Mojang will set that delay back.

  • @_nahuel320
    @_nahuel320 Před 6 měsíci +21

    I think what they could do, is maybe add a setting/gamerule to limit the block's update if lag is a concern. That way, if big servers don't want to have to deal with multiple people spamming the 1 tick blocks, they can use a gamerule to set their update rate to 4 instead of 1. Could be a middle ground.

    • @darcsyde345
      @darcsyde345 Před 6 měsíci +6

      Servers having control over this could break a LOT of red stone contraptions, so this might not be the best option imo

    • @vibaj16
      @vibaj16 Před 6 měsíci +5

      that is not the concern, Mojang is just being dumb

    • @blackmage1276
      @blackmage1276 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Lag was never a concern

    • @xadielplasencia3674
      @xadielplasencia3674 Před 6 měsíci

      That is not a concern, it's not simple and it's not a good idea 😂

    • @ffc1a28c7
      @ffc1a28c7 Před 6 měsíci

      Considering you can easily make machines with tens of thousands of block entities while keeping the mspt under 50 on a laptop with decent optimization mods & specs, this is a nothing burger. (also, mods for limiting redstone already exist)

  • @bradyalquist3760
    @bradyalquist3760 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Mojang after realizing they actually developed something new for once

  • @randomperson-qj1oq
    @randomperson-qj1oq Před 2 měsíci +1

    if these changes aren't reverted, my guess is people will start making mods to fix the "fix"

  • @tyronewilson6463
    @tyronewilson6463 Před 6 měsíci +11

    One of the possible reasons for the "consistency" argument with copper blocks might be feature parity with Bedrock edition. Because redstone in bedrock is coded differently it might not have been possible to do the one game tick delay there.

    • @lcc6149
      @lcc6149 Před 6 měsíci +17

      Both version are different for years and they won't equalize them.

    • @dew9103
      @dew9103 Před 6 měsíci +7

      And why would we want it to be consistent with bedrock again, I’m gonna go full slippery slope and remove qc, scaffolding, and leafstone as well

    • @algotkristoffersson15
      @algotkristoffersson15 Před 6 měsíci +8

      Why not just axe bedrock edition and build a Java runtime environment for each console so we can play Java edition on them.

    • @iqwit
      @iqwit Před 6 měsíci

      ​@@algotkristoffersson15Seriously i use pojavlauncher just cause bedrock redstone is so bad and i have like 0 performance issues and thats on something not optimised for a phone, its definitely doable

    • @michaelbowman6684
      @michaelbowman6684 Před 6 měsíci +6

      Bedrock will always be the inferior version in my eyes, like some kind of imperfect clone, everything about it is just ever so slightly "off" and it's different enough for me to not play it over the original. It's not even just Redstone, almost everything about the game feels like some kind of wacky imitation of something that exists in Java. The hand looks weird, mobs don't have the same behavior, there's a microtransaction store... it's just wrong.

  • @clawrolinelore4674
    @clawrolinelore4674 Před 6 měsíci +8

    I remember someone mentioned that trial spawners would have diamonds as one of the rewards, which is true since that was shown in Minecraft live. It makes sense why piglins wouldn't barter diamonds, but this one seemed a lot more realistic for some reason. It would make diamonds renewable, which would probably make people want to explore the structure a lot more. I'm surprised to see no one mentioning this.

    • @blackmage1276
      @blackmage1276 Před 6 měsíci +2

      They also dug up diamonds in archeology while showing that off at Minecraft live. Don't look into it too hard it means nothing.

    • @nintySW
      @nintySW Před 6 měsíci +2

      @@blackmage1276 Archeology was like, the biggest communication mess in minecraft's history, im not sure if we should go off of that lol.

    • @blackmage1276
      @blackmage1276 Před 6 měsíci +2

      @@nintySW Im just saying Mojang seems to use diamonds in mc live as "generic award" and if you're actually expecting the trial chambers to give diamonds as a reward it's (politely said) absolutely moronic

    • @clawrolinelore4674
      @clawrolinelore4674 Před 6 měsíci

      I'd probably go down into a trial chamber more than a couple times if I could get diamonds from it. As it currently stands, the main uses are for early game gear and completionists, or just general fun gameplay.

  • @teddyblue
    @teddyblue Před 3 měsíci +2

    did they revert the chnage in the end?

  • @artysausagedog1588
    @artysausagedog1588 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I cannot fathom the logic behind wanting to make blocks consistent in this manner. Minecraft has always been admired for how much of a sandbox it is, it gives you the tools, you apply them to make *whatever you want*. By having crafters and copper bulbs unique in the ways they were, that gave player more tools to make more, new and interesting creations. But now those unique tools have been taken away.
    How boring would LEGO be if you only had access to 10 different brick types? It's the variety and different shapes and functions of the pieces that makes LEGO such a powerful medium for creating whatever you can dream of. This logic is the same in Minecraft. Why are we limiting the tools we have available to create?