Is The Fiat Coupe 20v Turbo The Best 90s Bargain Modern Classic You Can Buy?
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- Is The Fiat Coupe 20v Turbo The Best Bargain Modern Classic You Can Buy?
The Fiat Coupe 20v Turbo is pure 90s heaven, from the way it drives to its controversial styling. I hadn’t given the Fiat Coupe too much consideration, but when the opportunity rose to enjoy it for a weekend, I couldn’t say no.
I’m happy to report that that Fiat has been my biggest surprise of 2022 so far. I was so impressed by its handling and performance, and that engine is a dream. This car has got all the potential to be the best bargain modern classic on the market with a great entry-level price into enjoying classic cars.
From its controversial design history to its performance on the road, watch the video to see why it’s the biggest driving surprise of 2022. - Auta a dopravní prostředky
Just caned mine down to Dublin and back after over wintering. My fifth model of these cars. First job always, disconnect the radio. The engine sound is all ya need.
Oh yes! That engine is an absolute delight. I genuinely loved driving the Fiat and if I had space in the garage, I would have one. Hope you continue to enjoy yours for many years to come.
I own a 20vt coupe, amazing car with fantastic performance and unique styling.from a design point of view its literally a piece of art! No other car is like it in fact in my opinion id say its up there with the most beautiful cars of all time! Had mine sprayed lime green for max appeal haha
Its around 2500 when the turbo kicks in not 3500!
it's certainly beautiful and that engine is an absolute dream. Hope you continue to enjoy yours.
Excellent review Sir in all aspects....You uncovered all the little surprises from a great car....I have this model and aside from the speed , the real joy is the noise with a stainless steel exhaust and just how nice it is to be in , live with , lookafter. The practically is a sweet bonus....They need proper maintenance mind. But even in 2022 - standard is quick but a tuned 20VT is a whole different story. And tuned goes from : 300 , 400 , 500 and one 612bhp machine.
Great review of an awesome 90's Italian. Really enjoyed watching that, far better than the bigger channels that have reviewed this car.
Having owned mine for nearly 10 years, i wouldn't change it for anything.
Thank you 😊 great to hear that you enjoyed the video and I hope you continue to enjoy your Fiat Coupe.
I also own one of these 20 valve turbos. I absolutely agree with you.
Great review 👍
I got the 1.8 16v absolutely love it,got it a month ago,loved it on first sight,and i thought…this is it.Never disappoints.Antique car with a lot of life and style in it,got some great ideas for it.
Enjoy it
That's the one I have as well. It's not fast by any means but you can still enjoy the beautiful design and the views you get from other folks for a way lower fare.
Good work, most enjoyable. Thanks.
Glad you enjoyed it
Amazing video!!! Everything well explained!!! 👏👏👏
Glad you liked it!
I own non turbo model..goes well..but this is turbo turbo going machine..
Lots od friends have 16v turbo and 20v turbo..another level..pocket rocket
Awesome car!
3k to 8k? In what world u live in? 10 years ago they were that price and I was seriously thinking of buying one, either the Limited Edition or Plus versions. Now they go between 15k to 30k depending on the mileage. I should have trusted my instincts, this beauty is a future classic.
There are loads for sale between £5-£10k here in the UK… projects start at around £1,500. In fact this very one is for sale for £8,995. Absolutely no need to pay anywhere near £30,000 for one!
In Spain I saw a great one 3 years ago for 5k. I'm still biting my ass that I haven't bought it. Now it's 8- 10k.
Left hand ones are more expensive, its always been like that with cars, UK gets to enjoy a lot of rare cars for cheaper. In the Europa countries that are left hand drive, they start from 5-6000 Euro for a bad shape 20 VT. and if you want a good one its 10000 euro or above today.
I’ve got a 20v turbo with 76k on the clock new clutch and cam belt. Been up for sale for over a year for 3.5k…… not a single offer
@@JasonHoney-du5fy3.5k what? Euro?
Absolutely gorgeous unique sports car. The 16 valve 4 cylinder turbo shared the same engine as the legendary Lancia Delta Integrale
Just my car’s spec that.. mine was a ’98. Best Car I’ve Ever Had. Hands down
Hi!
Beautiful review, and beautiful specimen! .. 👍🏻
I would like to add and talk about a detail that has not been mentioned in the video review at all, that is the traction, as it is considered (the 20V Turbo) one of the best front traction in the world, due to some technical details not just, that is :
THE FRAME: "Type 2", this is the evolution of that of the Lancia Delta, more rigid and robust, as well as the body.
THE TRANSMISSION: A sophisticated (especially for the 90's era) electronically controlled transmission through turbocharging management (Garrett TB28) invented by Fiat / Bosch, on the first two "EBL" (Electtronic Boost Limiter) gears, of this what few are aware of, even if it has been mentioned several times by various Italian magazines such as: Auto del 1997, Quattroruote 1999, and also by international magazines, as well as a mechanical self-locking device called (ViscoDrive).
I think it is right to say a few words about the sophisticated electronic control of the transmission on the traction, and on its operation.
There are 2 sensors / switches inside the gearbox, which are connected to a first satellite control unit, this is connected to the mother control unit (Bosch Motronic 1.1.2) which in turn is connected to a second satellite control unit which is connected to an electronic valve called "Pierburg" which always in turn controls the WestGate valve of the Turbo, opening and closing it according to the wheel spin by means of the ABS sensors.
The beauty of this sophisticated electronic system lies in the fact that it does not INTERRUPT the wheel spin, like a common "ETC" (Electtronic Traction Control), where it cuts the current to the engine, making you feel the classic serration and kickback, but REDUCES the wheel spin. of the wheels, precisely by decreasing the supercharging pressure, so as to maintain a fluidity and driving pleasure while driving, without losing performance.
The system automatically excludes itself once the third gear has been engaged, included onwards, to reactivate automatically once returned to 2nd and 1st gear respectively.
The control system, if necessary, can be excluded with special "Computer Examiner", and not by the Driver in the passenger compartment.
The beauty of this sophisticated system lies in the fact that if you want to elaborate the Coupé, even in an extreme way, to increase power and torque, and therefore performance in general, with more extreme trim, etc .... With this electronic system (with ECU reprogramming) you can choose the boost pressure according to the gear engaged so as to always have a smooth and pleasant drive, without excessive skidding and loss of control of the car!
ES: If original, the pressure expressed by the Turbo is: 1st gear 0.8Bar, 2nd gear 1.0Bar, from 3rd gear included 1.2Bar (therefore the maximum boost pressure).
By carrying out the processing you can do:
E.g. 1st gear 1.0Bar, 2nd gear 1.2, Bar, 3rd gear included onwards 1.5 / 1.8 / 2.2, and beyond, so as to never have the classic explosion of power with relative wheel spin in the first 2 gears, which takes away the pleasure of driving.
A truly brilliant and unique system in the 90s sports!
We remind you that the "normal" Fiat Coupé 20V Turbo and special editions (Limited Edition, [numbered and certified] Plus Edition, and MY99 'Edition) is the only 90' front-wheel drive sports car to have a controlled transmission and mixed management, (Electronics + Mechanics), the latter cohesive in unison, in the name of mimesis, although these are not physically connected to each other in a single piece, like a classic "VDC."
In practice, the mechanical self-locking (ViscoDrive) acts as a "TC" (Torque transfer) and the "EBL" (Electtronic Boost Limiter) electronics as a skid control.
SORRY IF IT'S LITTLE !!!!!
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P.s: Some models (more than a few) of original "Limited Edition", new, and of only one owner, rolled on the test bench, have all registered powers of over 230hp, in spite of the 220 declared by Fiat.
This indisputably explains the greater performance in terms of maximum speed and acceleration scored by the various magazines, in spite of the "normal" 5-speed versions, that is: (252.23 Km / h, LE, against 248Km / h Normal .), and acceleration, (6.1 / 3 Sec.LE, against 6.5 Sec.Normal) all electronically "limited" in the first 2 steps, as stated above.
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Bye!
That's an excellent example that 👍 I myself am on my Third :)
Love your videos!
Waiting for a Mercedes w123 coupe review!
Thank you! I like your thinking, i've made a note and if a W123 Coupe comes my way, I will certainly do a video on it.
I have the base model in Ferrari Red. It's slow as dirt but still delivers the feelings. And it's very reliable too.
Swap a 20v turbo engine in it.
Still love these from gran turismo
Great review , love my 20vt , bought 7 years ago for 1000 pounds , the most reliable car I've ever owned !
Thank you. Great to hear you enjoyed the video.
Paid just a grand for my mint 20vt coupe, absolute bargin! spend £4500 on it inc outside respray to lime green, going up in value big time!
The most reliable ? Were you previously a bmw enthusiast ??
@dietznutz1 I've had bmws too yip , take it you drive an audi 😬
@@number001 fiat 😂 I've heard the coupes are actually quite good. Was more of a joke
That’s a really lovely 20VT . I had a S reg one for two years.
Never really jelled with the styling ( I think the car looks too small and is dainty looking ) but the engine is to die for. Even tootling along.
ohh yes! That engine is an absolute joy.
What s reg/r reg means i am interested in buying one with only 115k km and its in a very good condition (the owner takes care of it but doesn't use it). Unfortunately it needs a good service but that's it. Also its a 1999 20vt edition with sunroof. Any idea what i should pay attention to? Is it as slippery as they say in general? What about her cornering ability?
@@nakoskalmoukis1469r reg is the letter designed to the decade I believe
Have two of them 16VT and 20VT . On my ninth Coupe
Which one you prefer? Always thought the 16vt plus was best, although the 20vt plus looks better
@@Scirokko 20vt is a better car more like a GT tourer and the engine is more reliable . My 16VT is a road car but used as a track car
Having two of these I think I am qualified to speak of the fun factor of these, and that sound, I think in sports cars the sound can make or break the whole experience. I have owned mine for quite some time, never had any issues, wouldn't recommend them as a daily driver now, as parts will be harder to find. Thanks for the review, sadly most people now days just don't care. P.S, I just brought a slk55 r171 amg, I will again be having the time of my life, like with the Fiats, and I will be invisible...........
Absolutely! The noise can really heighten the driving experience. Hope you enjoy the SLK55, they really are such a fun car with a mighty engine and soundtrack.
My top 3 is
Smart Roadster Brabus Exclusive
Toyota MR2
Fiat Coupé 20V Turbo
I will try to have all 3
Im gonna start with the Smart 👌
All great fun choices :) I hope to get a Smart Roadster on the channel in the future.
I’m on my 2nd one
I have three of these models and they are fantastic looking well built and exillerating to drive compared to a lot of other coups makers of the nineties and one day they will be very valuable.I always feel good after I have been driving them and that says a lot about these cars.
They certainly offer a lot of driving fun for not a huge amount of money 😊
Big performance and savage looks. But no, driving dynamics are not top class. Nissan 200sx drove better but I love most things about them
I'm on my 5th one❤
I salute you! They're fantastic cars.
@fuelupclassic7003 Hi, i am interested in buying one with only 115k km and its in a very good condition (the owner takes care of it but doesn't use it). Unfortunately it needs a good service but that's it. Also its a 1999 20vt edition with sunroof. Any idea what i should pay attention to? Is it as slippery as they say in general? What about her cornering ability and in what speed does she feel uncomfortable?
Make sure the cambelts have been changed recently, and if they haven't then budget to replace them as soon as possible. Also, if the car hasn't been used much recently I would be checking all the electrics work as they should. As long as it has been well looked after with regular specialist maintenance, they are a great drive and lots of fun. Good luck with your purchase :)
The 90s was in general a better time for cars. It all went downhill from there
It certainly was a great decade for cars.
I wanted one....got to drive one,but....at 6 ft 5....I couldn't even get my head to sit straight for headroom,awful driving position.... anybody find similar???
No squeaks or rattles?I beg to differ😊
I got to ruin this a little bit. I heard there are some serius trouble with electric installations in this classic car. Is that true? Also an adult can't really sit on the back, is it?
You could fit two adults in the back for short journeys quite comfortably. I'm not aware of any serious electrical issues with them but it is a fairly old Italian car, so the occasional issue may well arise. Lack of use and lots of sitting around, is often the biggest cause of electrical gremlins.
Adults can sit behind but the leg space is quite short indeed. I have mine now since 2008 and never had electronic problems, even though it stands for the whole winter without running and it starts without problems! You just need to keep maintenance seriously and then you will have a lot of fun! People still look back to your car when you pass by because they don't know what exactly they see and they also give you thumbs up! The boot behind is also really big for a coupe, travel with girlfriend or wife is perfect
Agree with above, rear vg for kids too…and any probs come up with lack of maintenance in my decade plus experience of owning several and currently only an LE and a Plus…😂❤
Oh and both have quaif diffs that are essential if power is ‘slightly enhanced’ shall we say and if suspension sorted they go like go karts…brakes never great and changed front lights to LEDs is a huge difference as otherwise they’re like “candles in jam jars”!😂
in my country less then 10k you will not get it one , i rebuilded one this year and i see that the cost was massive , if i will sell it will be 20k for sure
Here in the UK, we haven't quite woken up yet to just how good these cars are!