Cycling to America is now a lot safer!

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  • čas přidán 16. 10. 2023
  • [Ep. 1009] The cycle route to America from the station Horst-Sevenum has become a lot safer now the main cycle route from Venlo called Greenport Bikeway has been extended all the way to that village of America. See a before and after comparison. More information in the blog post: bicycledutch.wordpress.com/?p...

Komentáře • 103

  • @FrietjeOorlog
    @FrietjeOorlog Před 7 měsíci +194

    Cycling to America was still safer than cycling in America.

    • @Distress.
      @Distress. Před 7 měsíci +3

      I thought this was the US border crossing or something 😭

    • @SSGoatanks
      @SSGoatanks Před 7 měsíci +6

      Really wish North America had safe bicycle infrastructure - car ownership keeps most Americans poor :(

    • @arnomrnym6329
      @arnomrnym6329 Před 7 měsíci

      👍🏾😂u nailed it

  • @tubularap
    @tubularap Před 7 měsíci +72

    This is a well deserved "click-bait" title ! :-)

    • @DemPilafian
      @DemPilafian Před 7 měsíci +5

      It's the new Rickroll. The video gave me a chuckle and I learn something new.

  • @LeafHuntress
    @LeafHuntress Před 7 měsíci +113

    For those wondering, besides cycling to America, in the Netherlands you can also cycle to de Krim,(Crimea) Frankrijk,(France) several Engelands,(duh) Zurich,(on one side of the Afsluitdijk!) Austerlitz(with the famous pyramid!) & speaking of pyramids there's also several Egyptes. This is just a short selection, there are _loads_ more names.
    Also funny are place names like de Hulk, Urk, Sexbierum & Monster.
    And then you have the following trio close to each other; Rectum & Enter, with Goor(dirty) watching on.

    • @paolagrando5079
      @paolagrando5079 Před 7 měsíci +1

      😸

    • @dammitdan106
      @dammitdan106 Před 7 měsíci

      What are streets in Amsterdam?

    • @Allan_son
      @Allan_son Před 7 měsíci +5

      We could reverse the exercise. For example near where I grew up in Canada Zeeland was a super dangerous place to cycle. I am pretty sure there are several Utrechts and Delfts that are terrible places to cycle.

    • @erik5374
      @erik5374 Před 7 měsíci +5

      Californië, Siberië, ...

    • @ovidiu_nl
      @ovidiu_nl Před 7 měsíci +6

      There's also a village called Nederland. In Overijssel.

  • @driewiel
    @driewiel Před 7 měsíci +55

    They really made America great again.

  • @shadbeard3275
    @shadbeard3275 Před 7 měsíci +31

    Lol. I love this title. Of course, to find good bike infrastructure in America, you still have to go to the Netherlands!

  • @CuoreGR
    @CuoreGR Před 7 měsíci +23

    As a Belgian, I can only be jealous of improvements like these. Well done, Netherlands!

  • @buddy1155
    @buddy1155 Před 7 měsíci +8

    Best clickbait ever! Well done. 👍

  • @mikhaildavidenko3841
    @mikhaildavidenko3841 Před 7 měsíci +16

    Can we apply the same to America on the other side of the Atlantic, pls?

  • @rodrigosouto9502
    @rodrigosouto9502 Před 7 měsíci +9

    Maybe few people noticed, but there were even more lights along 2023, enhancing night cycling.

  • @KaushikNSanji
    @KaushikNSanji Před 7 měsíci +4

    So many changes done beautifully within a span of three years! You have made America great again! Feeling jealous now..

  • @symonlibera7011
    @symonlibera7011 Před 7 měsíci +26

    That's a beautifull cycleway, i really wish UK would make those in my area, real progress i see across those 3 years.

  • @Bitrey
    @Bitrey Před 7 měsíci +5

    Even the old ones would be seen as revolutionary here in Italy. Here in Bologna they made the "bicipolitana", the cyclepolitan, an impressive 1 meter wide bidirectional cycleway literally in the middle of the ring road (in the lane divider). With the terribly dangerous left turn for bikes, that cross the right turn lane for cars with a totally blind spot, now in the official "cycling manual" of Bologna.
    Oh, and our prime minister Salvini just decided that it's illegal for bikes to go into bus lanes and that electric scooters should have insurance and a license plate.
    There is absolutely no hope, here we are going backwards instead of forward.

  • @Lolwutfordawin
    @Lolwutfordawin Před 7 měsíci +4

    That transition at the end is so beautiful, clearly gives bikes heading onto the cycle path from America priority over cars in the same direction, would feel absolutely natural and effortless to use. Here in Germany the cycle path would end at a sharp 90° turn onto the road, with an island in a best case scenario, usually without, with the requirement to give way to cars in both directions when entering and leaving the path.

  • @chrislaarman7532
    @chrislaarman7532 Před 7 měsíci +5

    1) Me too: great video with great title! :-)
    2) To those not seeing the difference that this reconstruction makes:
    Imagine this same stretch with wind of 7 Beaufort (not exceptional!) or with a thin layer of snow frozen after a day (with meandering and slippery tracks of previous cyclists), with cyclists struggling and motor traffic trying to keep the "time tables" one is used to, including trucks fetching milk and bringing fuel. Then this reconstruction is a great relief for all!
    EDIT: No, imagine cyclists (like children going to school) having to deal with the additional draught of trucks passing at minimal distance, and with cyclists slipping just in front of a truck. (In these circumstances.)

  • @ActiveTowns
    @ActiveTowns Před 7 měsíci +6

    Wow! Yes, quite an improvement. 😀

  • @Michael._The_Storyteller
    @Michael._The_Storyteller Před 7 měsíci +5

    lovely city,
    Thank You for the look at a beautiful country, and the cycle roads.
    People over Autos, what a choice.

  • @paolagrando5079
    @paolagrando5079 Před 7 měsíci +10

    Thanks to the student who let you have the 🚲
    If you are curious about it check the blog in the description box. It gives you more details about this video 😊

  • @Doodloper
    @Doodloper Před 7 měsíci +2

    Shocking bicycle path improvements --->
    - Thank you, America
    - Thank you, Limburg
    - Thank you, Netherlands
    - Thank you, BicycleDutch

  • @markifi
    @markifi Před 7 měsíci +7

    you realize the 2020 version would be the most pleasant and safe to cycle road in any other country, right?

    • @xaviwarrior1
      @xaviwarrior1 Před 7 měsíci

      Other countries like Perú, Bolivia, México, Colombia...

  • @christill
    @christill Před 7 měsíci +19

    The only way anything like the 2023 version would get built in the UK would be if our government paid the Dutch government and whoever builds the actual infrastructure to design and build it for us. In my town, they just announced they’re going to do a bike lane near the main train station. It’s just paint. In 2023. It’s insane. Basically a box ticking exercise and nothing more. They haven’t thought for a single second about whether or not it will actually significantly increase cycling rates (it obviously won’t), but that’s irrelevant. They’ve ticked the box.

    • @dammitdan106
      @dammitdan106 Před 7 měsíci +4

      We have 3/4 ton pickup trucks modified to roll coal that ride with us on a painted shoulder full of sharps. Of course they are polite and never throw beer bottles or try to hit us. There's a big yellow bicycle sign that says "Share The Road." That's as good as it gets.

    • @erik5374
      @erik5374 Před 7 měsíci

      And what would the tabloid press write when your government paid our government to suit those damn cyclists?

    • @Huntracony
      @Huntracony Před 7 měsíci +4

      Potentially the most frustrating part is that it's also mostly just ticking boxes in the Netherlands, it just has better boxes. If it was just good traffic engineers working without guidance, it would be extremely fragile and inconsistent. That said, you need the good traffic engineers to make the good guidelines in the first place.
      That also said, the good guidelines exist now. Stick them in google translate, mirror the images, make the bike paths green, and convert to miles and you have good British guidelines. But instead the prime minister wants to ban the concept of 15 minute cities, somehow.

    • @christill
      @christill Před 7 měsíci

      @@Huntracony I think the latest UK road design guidelines are decent. They just don’t follow them…
      And of course Sunak and co. are focused on 15 minute city conspiracies, LTNs, Ultra-Low Emission Zones etc. Who else are they going to get to vote for them other than uneducated people who love their cars way too much and will believe anything you tell them?

    • @rodrigosouto9502
      @rodrigosouto9502 Před 7 měsíci +4

      I live in Rio de Janeiro - Brazil. Our mayor promised doing almost 1.000 km of cyclepaths until 2030. In 2022 he did only 30 km of cycle lanes. Yes, only painted streets and roads. Infuriating I know.

  • @amcaesar
    @amcaesar Před 7 měsíci +5

    I’m glad this version of America doesn’t have a series of KFCs and TGIFriday’s every mile.

  • @norcobf
    @norcobf Před 7 měsíci +8

    I'm from Canada. My wife and I are cycling from Frankfurt to Amsterdam in the summer of 2024. Day 11 we will be cycling from Venio to Deurne, passing through America. Any recommendations for a place for lunch in America 😂?
    FYI we cycled from Amsterdam to Groningen and back in the spring of 2023, so we know how great your cycling infrastructure is.😊. Thanks for your amazing videos.

    • @p.m.8316
      @p.m.8316 Před 7 měsíci

      lock your bike or it will get stolen.

  • @SledgeOfHouseHammer
    @SledgeOfHouseHammer Před 7 měsíci +9

    You got my hopes up for nothing. Bah! 😊

  • @Sivah_Akash
    @Sivah_Akash Před 7 měsíci +3

    Lol I envy even the 2020 route!

  • @steemlenn8797
    @steemlenn8797 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Horst-Severum! That's where I first touched Dutch soil! 😂
    And the new path is really wide for such a low traffic area! In other countries (if they would build one that is) it would be only half as wide. Or even less.

  • @judebrown4103
    @judebrown4103 Před 7 měsíci +1

    How did you cycle that without singing the song from West Side Story?!😂 "🎶I want to bee een Amereeca🎶"
    It was fascinating to see how the new path meandered each side of the ditch. It made a much more interesting ride than cycling in a straight line next to the traffic.😅 Looks like they put up a sturdy fence where the bike track got close to people's property too... I'm guessing that's the case because there was a lot of identical fencing along the route...
    Loved the split screen view, amazing how you even synched the sound tracks, great job Mark.👍

  • @ItsKeyzro
    @ItsKeyzro Před 7 měsíci +2

    “Wait what the hell this guy… oh you got me there.”

  • @StefanVeenstra
    @StefanVeenstra Před 7 měsíci

    Yes, from America to Amerika just got a little more comfortable. Think through Canada and Willemstad might be shortest. Can go by Moskou and Petersburg, but then I'd probably have to through Frankrijk and Egypte too and that is om.

  • @pimnijsten9007
    @pimnijsten9007 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Looks like the trees at 4 mins were cleaned up as well.

  • @e-BikeLife
    @e-BikeLife Před 7 měsíci +2

    What a remarkable improvement! But, how did they do that? Did they take some of the farm land? It didn't look like there was enough room in the earlier video to expand the infrastructure.

    • @RealConstructor
      @RealConstructor Před 7 měsíci +4

      They first try to buy the farmland or property, and if that doesn’t work they expropriate the land for public interest. But mostly the people selling the land get something in exchange besides money, like better acces to their property or an entrance at a different location. Sometimes there is a different option, in Dutch it’s called ‘verkavelen’ which means the farmer gets his farmland somewhere else, often merged with a small plot the farmer already had at a different location. So instead of having two plots of land on different locations, the farmer now got one big plot of land, which is easier to manage.

    • @lws7394
      @lws7394 Před 7 měsíci +1

      They used part of the side berm. At places they placed the path on the spot of the ditch and dug a ditch between the road and path .. see 6:35 and 7:50
      The nearly 3km project aparently budgeted at €1.5 mln . Amazing, these days, with all the redigging of ditches, laying tarmac, positioning lamp posts etc , I would have expected a higher price tag .

    • @lws7394
      @lws7394 Před 7 měsíci

      @@RealConstructor expropariation or exchange is not really a nice experience. Years ago the parents of a friend of my brother had to 'sell farmland' , for a highway, which meant they got out of business. With this you usually don't get maximum price for the land (compared to selling to private parties) ..
      Recently I know of a farmer who had to give in land for a river meanderization project with bike path ( 'verkaveling'/land swap). They lost some of their best soil and got inferior soil land back ....

  • @shckg
    @shckg Před 7 měsíci +2

    Understatement of the year🤣

  • @RAWDernison1
    @RAWDernison1 Před 7 měsíci +3

    ??? Next stop: the "village" of Nederland, Overijssel. (it's near Muggenbeet, Overijssel)).

  • @matteograssadonia7536
    @matteograssadonia7536 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Thank you for your amazing video.
    I have few questions about the bike lane material. Why did the administration chose to use bricks instead beton? How comfortable is to ride a bike over a bikelane made of bricks?

    • @petersteinmeijer519
      @petersteinmeijer519 Před 7 měsíci +1

      I think I saw both. Bricks ( I think there's a specific word for these bricks ). Asphalt must be, and stay, a lot smoother.

    • @BicycleDutch
      @BicycleDutch  Před 7 měsíci +6

      They're tiles. A type of concrete slabs. I also don't know why they used them. They weren't mentioned in the plans but they seem to have been used near homes and at locations where the authorities may expect to have to open the path up again for underground pipes and cables. The tiles can be reused and set anew without damage to the path. But I'm also just guessing here.

  • @laurentitolledo1838
    @laurentitolledo1838 Před 7 měsíci

    wish we had that sort of infra where I am residing...

  • @photoo848
    @photoo848 Před 7 měsíci +2

    11:13 think this may be the first time I see someone parked (partly) on a Dutch bike path. How do people handle those situations in the Netherlands?

    • @roozish
      @roozish Před 7 měsíci +5

      You just cycle around it. Usually if someone parks their car on a bike path they leave enough space for one or two bikes to pass them.

  • @ce17ec
    @ce17ec Před 7 měsíci +1

    A very well choosen clickbait title! Should have known better before clicking ... But as always worth watching!

    • @ce17ec
      @ce17ec Před 7 měsíci

      New situation is much safer, but so close to the road that it is still not a perfect solution imo. Cars are very nearby. Loud and the separation is very small. They had to chop quit a number of large trees for this. Hope they will plant new ones along the road and in those gardens (if there is some space left for that ...).
      I could imagine that when you make a complete new fietspad, you could choose a route farther away from the existing road, more in the middle of "nowhere". And yes that will cost more but would be much nicer and more comfortable and it would be a long lasting solution. I expect the present situation will be changed again within one or two decades ... ..

  • @donaldjmccann
    @donaldjmccann Před 7 měsíci +12

    I cycled across America in 2003...very dangerous but I made it!

    • @RAWDernison1
      @RAWDernison1 Před 7 měsíci +2

      From Canada to Chili ?

    • @04smallmj
      @04smallmj Před 7 měsíci

      @@RAWDernison1Depends how many continents you think there are

  • @ethant9113
    @ethant9113 Před 7 měsíci +1

    What's the rule regarding slow-moving vehicles using the bike lane as in 11:05? Is it only allowed for certain types of vehicles/max speed? Does it result in higher specs to support the weight?

    • @sergeleon1163
      @sergeleon1163 Před 7 měsíci +1

      The only ones that would be allowed are the people who use it to local access their property (building or field), for example it can be that some farmers have a few plots of land just separated by one or multiple neighbors so they can take a tractor from their garage and use the bike path for the short section at low speed to pass their neighbor and get acces to their field. Also people who do construction/infrastructure/maintenance on/next to the path would be allowed at such conditions as well as emergency services. The bike roads will be specked to handle the heavier load at low volume, as these examples won't be a frequent occurrence/high volume.

  • @ukrytykrytyk8477
    @ukrytykrytyk8477 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Hahaha XD. You also got me with the title!

    • @steemlenn8797
      @steemlenn8797 Před 7 měsíci

      Well, lern how to read. It's "to" not "in", though it's probably also safer to ride in Mexico to the US border than on the other side.

    • @ukrytykrytyk8477
      @ukrytykrytyk8477 Před 7 měsíci

      @@steemlenn8797 is Mexico not in America then, smart-ass?

  • @ronaldderooij1774
    @ronaldderooij1774 Před 7 měsíci

    Good work. Pity they used tiles instead of asphalt on some places. The vibrations from tiles on your hands/wrists is not nice in the long run. And cudo's for cycling the exact same distance in exactly the same speed.

  • @Traveltoppereu
    @Traveltoppereu Před 7 měsíci

    Lang geleden ben ik tijdens een weekendje uit in America geweest. Tot dan had ik geen idee dat dit bestond in Nederland of moet ik Holland schrijven ? Mooie fietsweg. Groetjes Eddy (Mechelen/België)

    • @Keikdv
      @Keikdv Před 7 měsíci +2

      America ligt in Noord Brabant, zeker niet in (noord of zuid) Holland...

    • @peterslegers6121
      @peterslegers6121 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Dit is Limburg, geen Holland of Noord-Brabant. Na de opstand in 1830 nog 9 jaar deel van België geweest. Rowwen Hèze is van America.

  • @infj4w511
    @infj4w511 Před 7 měsíci

    12:12 In the video from 2020, there's a white, crooked line on the road. What does it mean?

    • @collectioneur
      @collectioneur Před 7 měsíci

      It is an incentive to slow down because the speed limit is lowering

  • @zukzworld
    @zukzworld Před 7 měsíci

  • @anrmlumlwundlistr7620
    @anrmlumlwundlistr7620 Před 6 měsíci

    4:42 was not nice to be cycling there lol.

  • @VacuousCat
    @VacuousCat Před 7 měsíci +1

    BicycleDutch has a click bait XD

  • @ironqueen_osrs
    @ironqueen_osrs Před 7 měsíci

    They cut down many old trees for this, i hope those get replanted close-by at least!

    • @sergeleon1163
      @sergeleon1163 Před 7 měsíci

      In my area (also in the Netherlands) they also adjusted the infrastructure in regard to roads and bike paths which also had some old trees in the way of the new path/road, the trees where not cut down but they used a specialized truck with a machine that digs out a good chunk of earth/soil with the trees roots and all taking the complete tree out and replant it in a new location.

    • @ironqueen_osrs
      @ironqueen_osrs Před 7 měsíci

      ooooh, that is pretty cool!! @@sergeleon1163

  • @micosstar
    @micosstar Před 7 měsíci

    no way

  • @baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714
    @baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 Před 7 měsíci +3

    The lack of wilderness makes me feel uneasy. Between towns there should be forrests.

  • @deinemudda1049
    @deinemudda1049 Před 7 měsíci

    Noooooooooo, I wanted to make the joke before you, aw, nneeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee😢

  • @Allan_son
    @Allan_son Před 7 měsíci +4

    Please report when there is a safer way to cycle out of Hell.

    • @Allan_son
      @Allan_son Před 7 měsíci +1

      Norway

    • @erik5374
      @erik5374 Před 7 měsíci +1

      I cycled through Hell, on my way to the airport Vaernes. It wasn’t that bad.
      Hell would be a good name for any airport. I hate those places.

  • @allanegleston4931
    @allanegleston4931 Před 7 měsíci

    not where i live , in traffic, right on the fog line where motorists dont care , pretend not to see u. hem

  • @CenarosNL
    @CenarosNL Před 7 měsíci +1

    Although this is definitely preferable and safe. 1 thing I always hate about my country: It looks too slick and new! Everything looks the same. And kinda as if it's made in Cities Skylines if you get what I mean. The old roads had more character, so to say. Everything in the country gets to look like this video and it gets rather boring after 32 years. Missing some old buildings too, that had to make way for roads like these or ugly box buildings.
    I like your channel but... it always paints such a pretty picture "The Netherlands is soo good".. which not everyone here agrees with.
    It almost starts to become annoying honestly. Videos about how good The Netherlands are, from the perspective of expats, immigrants, etc. Dutchies gloating in the comments about small facts. Like.. I get it, I really do. Especially compared to other places in the world. But it's far from perfect over here. One could even say it's boring and stale.

    • @KESipples
      @KESipples Před 7 měsíci

      Go live abroad for some time if you can. At least six months or a year. Maybe in more than one place. It’s a wonderful way to see your home country with fresh eyes-for better or worse.