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- čas přidán 19. 08. 2024
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I saw this guy's videos before my surgery and thank god I recognized him as a quack. Had my disc replacement, and I left the hospital in less pain than I entered. Best decision of my life. I am already better than I have been in years and back to doing contact martial arts at month 5
Yes, we should all listen to you and get artificial discs.. The neurosurgeon is the quack but you are 100% believable and giving all of us great surgical advice based on your experience of '1' whole patient (debatable) an entire 5 months post op. I am sure the 1,000's of patients with artificial discs that have come out complaining about how much pain they are in or how they have surgical complications or even how they are needing revision surgery, those patients are quacks too.
@@aradeukmedjian5957 I consulted with two of the top spine surgeons who are fellowship trained and at teaching hospitals in two of the top 5 spine centers in the US. I am going with the opinions of some of the top surgeons in the world along with all the peer-reviewed evidence. Not the guy pushing his own procedures
@@Andre-tl7gyHaving a warning to try and help patients but then advertise/self-promote his own stuff is certainly a red flag. Objectively speaking; a disc replacement is replacing the diseased bodypart with an artificial replacement that can't become diseased, so it makes sense that it would be a better option. I'm sure it has downsides like different range/type of motion, but imo that is well worth it if the other option is potential adjacent segment disease.
@@Andre-tl7gy Do you have a suggestion where to get the best info ? Also was this back or neck , I am hear cuz Eddie Bravo having good results and thinking if one of the top BJJ guys who torques his neck and spine constantly and doing stuff KNOWN to ruin your spine is doing well it seemed promising . I am missing L5 s1 and the idea of no bone on bone is enticing , but hearing they go through your gut seems rough as well, but I dont know if thats always the case. IM JUST STARTING my research. Any advice or tips much appreciated . If you dont mind what injury / level / and age if your OK to share . Lastly how deep of a dive did you do before deciding and was it mostly based on the docs and reputation of their education etc? I have had issues with docs with pedigrees who are considered the best and maybe they are but they still did stuff that shouldnt have been done, meaning on right patient they ARE excellent but take bad candidates as well without warning they are not the bestt candidates . I also know there is little pre warning to many procedures that somewhat commonly goes wrong in some way. My dad had a catheter for something and his dick is fucked up from it and got a UTI for the first time in his life and they were like , oh yeah its very common , like DUh. Same with hysterectomys , know few women who have numb clits and complete sexual dysfunction and not aware its somewhat common to differing degres but possible that your box is out of order for life and the button dont work, which is something you would mention . More recently somebody else had one and I asked and she said she was at least told a little something . Ive seen a mess of shit with different stuff . Ive also had surgeons who way under promise and over deliver , but its scary fucking with your back cuz I have met TONS OF PEOPLE who regret it , more then who got help . Thanks if you respond.
@@Andre-tl7gy Wow imagine that top 5 spine centers that made $$$ exactly with an artificial disks companies...Dude this Doctor He is helping people and share the info, i don't think there is nothing wrong to go to his click for an minimal invasive OP plus He already educate people here.Also even he told that he ''imported'' approach from Germany and korea i think and change it a bit and improve it so in start He gave an option to people to search and check the infos. He is telling the TRUTH! I know people who had issues with dicks and after OP and my doctor told me '' If you are brave enough you can try but with a lot of people in end up worse then it was before the operation'' , some other doctors told me that as well. Anyhow you could easily be some owner of the clinkck that use dicks or a patient payed to promets those discks.
I hope those dicks will serve you well but pls stop attacking a brave doctor who is helping people. Do you at all understand what it means to use less invasive technique? once you cut flash + bones and the more invasion you do the worse it will get as you get older no matter how good those surgenes of yours were in those ''top 5 spine...'' clinics. That is the problem with invasive aprch and for years surgeons are find ways to use less invasive approaches for other operations as well, to cut as less as possible.
This guy IS AWESOME 😎 He's clapping back at all of the neurosurgeons who made people's pain WORSE. 💯
thank you
So what this doctor is doing is canning one technique and pushing his.
My thoughts on this is, if his procedure can be done safely, without hospitalization and fix the patient’s condition i think he has a right to promote his procedure and point out real problems with the other one. If it benefits the patient I’m fine with it
This doctor performs all types of spine surgery including artificial discs, fusion, endoscopic. He is sharing his opinion as an expert doing all kinds of spine surgery. Fact is artificial discs don’t work well, they fail and cause many problems for people that get them. Many times artificial discs have to be removed. This never happens with Deuk laser disc repair
@@Seer-cw9luor he would tell you that while putting down a superior technology. Micro discectomy is the dumbest surgery you could get
@@aradeukmedjian5957he’s not an expert in ADR. There’s only a few and this guy is not one.
@@lhbeese
I was one of the first spine surgeons to perform ADR in the USA as part of the original FDA trials. We saw so many ADR failures and patients injured severely and permanently by ADR surgery all around the country and world. The ADR manufacturers were hiding the bad results from the public and still are.
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Damned if you do damned if you don’t.
There are nightmares on both methods. I don’t know what to do. Terrifying
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While I'm sure this is valid commentary, you have to see the humor in him talking about the financial incentive for the disc replacement companies... and a minute later he's advertising his own technique and responding to comments with links to his website. :)
When you can perform all spine surgery types, you tend to chose the best. Why settle for spine surgery with complications, metal implants or even fusion when you can have the best, deuk laser disc repair.
I would much rather have an artificial disc with different range/type of motion than get adjacent segment disease from a fusion. That and advertisements tend to be a red flag of something being nonsense (like this doctor's claims).
My DDD is progressing to where I need to start looking into these options to decide what to advocate for and I am definitely not choosing a procedure that is likely to disease progression. ASD may not be guaranteed, but if I'm unlucky enough to get DDD in the first place, I'm not chancing it.
Artificial discs cause adjacent segment disease as often as fusion.@@jilliancrawford7577
Yeah, when the rest of the disc degenerates and your vertebrae are bone on bone, that fricking laser wont do jack!
Thanks for commenting. The laser cures back pain even when bone on bone. We have successfully cured the painful bone on bone every time we tried it in over 1,000 patients
I’ve had two artificial disks in my neck since 2019 and they’re great. Had an accident in 2021 resulting in double level lumbar fusion done without my full and prior consent. I wish I’d have had other options. If people knew what recovering from fusions is really like, they’d never have them.
Thanks for commenting
I'm coming to realize you don't ever really recover. I had an L5 S1 fusion at the end of 2021. It is still affecting me and always will. I had no choice. I was taking serious nerve damage and in an unimaginable lever of pain, as well as losing control of my bowls and bladder. I was also partially paralyzed in my right leg. That's the kind of condition you need to be in for a fusion. It won't fix your back pain. Now I'm staring down the barrel of a disk replacement in my neck. I hope it goes better than the fusion.
@@sasquatchycowboy5585 please look into less invasive and less traumatic deuk laser disc repair first. It is much better for you than the alternatives
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You can get artificial disk replacement in your lumbar too.. I read
@@DeukSpineInstitute if you lost 84% of the disc it is impossible to make room there the joints will suffer as a mini arthrodesis you can not fix it with a laser
I had 3 disk replaced and fused in 2017 Now I have a bad disk above those three and a bad disk below those three. There is also something wrong with the replaced disk in the middle. I have constant pain in neck and shoulders. Every dr I’ve seen said nothing can be done because I will have less neck movement than I do now. Living with pain.
Look into deuk spine institute. They can help you get out of pain.
Looking at these artificial discs: they aren't designed to move in the same motion as a natural disc . Natural is more like a bushing/cushion. Artificial moves in a arc , this changes the center of gravity and range of motion causing faccet joint to get sick .
well said. They do not behave like the real discs, they supply a different motion. You are totally right.
Totally any jarring motion and you can feel the metal hit. There is zero cushioning.
Activ-L discs try to address this issue by having a mobile disc, but they're not perfect. You're right that there is higher risk of facet joint issues with artificial discs, but there is higher risk of adjacent disc disease with fusions. Even better than Activ-L is the LP-ESP which very closely simulates the cushioning, motion, and restriction of a real disc. It has been in use since 2004 internationally, but the FDA hasn't approved it in the US.
l-esp mimics the movements of a natural disc. Sana in Germany does them. I have 3 lumbar discs and they are great.
@@InsatiableMonkeytoo bad ESP has unacceptable high rates of Osteolysis in male patients putting the patient in a nightmare situation 💀
Never let this doc do ADR on you because he doesn't know how.
Agree, no ADR at all. ADR is dangerous
On L5 and S1 I was virtually bone on bone. Had a disk fitted in Germany . They got me up to walk the next day. 4 yrs ago and all good. Am now 67.
Deuk laser disc repair you would be walking 1 hour post op and no metal in your spine
I am from India with L5 S1 disc herniation and tailbone pain. Which Doctor and Hospital in Germany did you visit?
@arup5343 Dr V. Anand Naik already in India, very experienced..
I went to Germany in 2015 n am 67 too.
How much did it cost?
Everyone is selling the owe product. They want to charge the insurance Ask many procedures they can
Yup
I have 3 l-esp discs from Sana in Germany and can now squat and deadlift with no pain.
yes, but you did not need them. That is the point.
google deuk laser disc repair.
No one cares. ESP patients eventually develop Oestolysis.
I have had an article disc in my neck since 2017. Mobi-C between C4-5. Best choice I ever made.
Thanks for sharing. Make sure to check out the deuk laser disc repair for your next neck surgery
Totally designed wrong .
I am a 6'8" 340 ex pro athlete. I have had seven surgeries in my lumbar spine: my first six were laminectomy . First surgery: woke with burning in my thighs and partially numb feet . Thighs are a honest 7-8 out of ten. I need to add i am gifted with mechanical things and engineering,visualization of work parts. At the beginning of every relationship with these surgeons I would say this surgery sounds like cleaning up debris from a crumbling foundation and not doing anything to add the support lost. Each surgeon really didn't have a strong answer for this. The mouth full of marbles sentence. And they all failed. Each creating excessive scar tissue. I find this surgeon that specializes in fixing others mistakes. We hit it off discussing how bad artificial discs are . Built a friendship. So we are talking complete lumbar fusion. Crazy amount of scar tissue. I find out in recovery. And he has tears in his eyes and said there was 30% i couldn't work on without paralysis. He said I tried for 13 hours . Tears coming strong. Said I have never seen someone walk in a hospital with a spine this ruined. He said in no uncertain terms if this surgery were done first you would be living a normal life taking advil .
Any place to go from here?
look into deuk laser disc repair
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An option is to send your MRI to Sana in Germany. Dr. Desai did my surgery and did an awesome job.
Sir you have saved me, i mean your videos. Due to was thinking to do some op on my buding dicks and my doctor told ''well only do it if you are brave due to a lot of people end up with worse results'' but He isn't a surgeon. So since you are top of the line surgeon and you are brave enough t o say the truth you have helped me with information.Thank you and i wish you all the best, friendly regards from Europe.
You are welcome friend.
@@DeukSpineInstitute Thank you for your reply. For me For me, you are the real doctor and a true surgeon who has not forgotten the meaning of the Hippocratic Oath.
I had surgery 14 years ago after severely fracturing my arm and damaging the nerve, and they put in a titanium rod with screws from the elbow to the shoulder that is nailed to the bone. It took me years of rehabilitation to come to a level where I could live with that pain, because implants made any artificial material, are problematic. So i can only imagine How hard is for those who have implants in the spine.
In the same accident, I injured the spinal discs (6, 7, 8), but after the ugly experience with the implants in my up arm, I always postponed the operation. I started thinking about surgery last time when the contents of one of the discs pressed against the nerves and caused severe pain. Luckily, the neurologist explained to me that the risks are high, and it's even luckier that I saw your video.
I am very glad to know that there is this procedure that you are using. So i can't thank you enough for saving me with valuable information.
When I wanted to remove the implant from my arm a 2 surgeons also told me that the same thing as you say in a video - it's hard to cut through scars and the risk is even higher then it is during the 1st operation. just like you were talking about how difficult it is to remove the artificial disc that caused the problem. You educate people, thank you for that.
It's always hard when good people try to help others and some companies don't like it, so I really admire your efforts.
God bless the US and you and all good people on that side of Atlantic. i wish you all the best from the hart!
I appreciate you saying it like it is... at least, and not being overly polite when such important topics are being discussed.
thank you
Dear Doctor~ God bless you for doing this ❣️❣️❣️ My life is ruined due to this. they told me I was a drug seeker. 😭😭😭 but the entire time I had BIA ALCL. or LCL.. a lot of excellent Doctors in Florida.
welcome. Feel better
I clicked the video just to read the comments.
Thank you for commenting
There is a forum for this and this doctor can talk to doctors that have different opinions. He provides no data. No data, no legitimate conclusions.
Pull your head out of your @$$
After you Alfonzo. Who is flippin this guys bill? The whole system is driven by $$$. Factor that out as a differential difference before you engage your vulgar defense mechanisms. He didn’t talk about spinal fusions that lead to more spinal fusions because they put higher bending stresses and strains on other parts of the spine not intended to carry the load. These guys are not engineers and they can prove it. The first artificial heart was a pump designed by GM in the early 60s by their research group. It was a squash pump similar to power steering pumps of the day.
@@yelyab1 ok thanks
Everyone saying disk implant is the best and only option , now I hear it’s the worst , this is an absolute nightmare is there not any standard procedure that is safe ?
That's why medicine is called a practice.
It's not the worst. This guy is fearmongering to push his own procedure. Even in the way he paraphrases the testimonies to make them sound worse, you can tell what his intentions are. Do your own research.
I'm not saying his procedure is bad, but you shouldn't be afraid to look for alternatives
I had my done back in 2017. Was one of the best decisions and I've lost no range of motion nor had any complications or relapses.
@@allencribb4944ADR or fusion?
@@allencribb4944 IME DUE NEXT WEEK, ARE YOU ATHLETIC AND IF SO HOW WAS YOUR EXPERIENCE WITH BODY MOVEMENT AFTER THE PROCEDURE
These are all anectodal the studies show high satisfaction rates especially for cervical and is highly contingent on the skill of the surgeon. And I'm a chiropractor so I'm very conservative in approach. I agree comprehensive assessment and diagnosis, and lesser invasive spprosxjes critical prior to surgery.
Thank you so much for posting, I have my surgery consultation tomorrow morning & this is golden.
Welcome. Look into deuk laser disc repair. Unlike other procedures that dont work, dldr does.
I'm 31/2 yrs out of ACD&F ON CERVICAL I'm in so much pain I'm now unable to move arms not much my whole limbs are all numb pins/needles while the operation I had my spinal cord damaged stayed in hospital for a month. Now I need 2 operations on my back 2023
I am so sorry you are suffering. Deuk Spine Institute can help you. Avoid more open surgery with deuk laser disc repair.
Dear Sir,
Thank you for exposing these fraudsters, May God bless you & your family.
As a herniated disc patient I know the pain we go through & these multinational companies taking advantage of the same is worst to humanity.
Please keep up the good work sir...❣️🙏
thank you friend
I had lumbar laser disc removal. The disc herniated again and the surgery repeated. Disc herniated again and I had bone on bone. I got a Maverick disc replacement in 2004 in a study which I had to pay for and it was a bad decision. I have been in constant pain since. It was a failure for me. 😢
So you perform debridement, but disk material that you remove does not grow back, afaik, so the patient is left with vertebrae with no disc between them. Similar to meniscal debridement of the knee. The knee after debridement is technically ‘bone on bone’ post op. The patient will then require total knee replacement, depending upon his level of post-op activity. If I’m wrong, please tell me.
The Deuk laser disc repair patients do not need any additional treatment on the disc. The disc remains asymptomatic.
Thanks for this information
welcome
What do you do when the disc is gone....they waited to long on my husband just giving him injections. He had a disc put in with a fusion and it took over a year for bone to start to grow back. 12 years later back to same old pain
It’s gone. Period. Nobody will do surgery without a trial of conservative treatments. If there is no disc and pain is confirmed it’s due disc degeneration, then surgery is an option understanding that only 60-70% of people with axial pain will improve. Not all improve. This guy make his technique sound like it is a panacea. That’s not ethical and his words should be taken with a grain of salt.
I had a fusion many years ago that did nothing. *No relief what-so-ever!* In fact 2 screws broke (within 6 months) and the Dr. that did the surgery said nothing can be done about it. About 2 years later 2 more discs are pinching due to pressure caused by the fusion. Can this procedure possibly fix all issues???
I have surgery 3 years ago and I don’t have is much pain in my nerves. I have better mobility and it’s understandable that you won’t lift anything big anymore. It’s just commend sense.
It's not just heavy lifting, it's running for the bus, it's bending over to tie your shoe, it's sneezing and coughing, it's jumping on the trampoline with your kids, it's being pregnant or adjusting the seat in your car etc. Literally all these simple things lead to reherniation hence why replacing the disc entirely is best. A fake disc cannot re herniate. "Common sense"
I need disability so bad, I’m still trying to work but I’m in misery
I have 2 in low back.. 30 years ago i was 1 off the first. I,m pain free a can do everything. This disk is the only way to have normal live with out pain.
Sadly dokter Zeegers died 2 years ago.
2 weeks after the operation you can't expect everything is OK.
thanks for sharing. Not all ADRs are a failure but many are.
What ADR did you get?
Hello
I had an adr in my c5-6. Instant pain relief. I was back at work in 4 days. Best medical decision i ever made.
Some people get lucky. Many ADR patients have serious complications or adjacent segment disease
@@aradeukmedjian5957 not that i've see. All the ones I know haven't had a complication
I had lumbar disc replacement and left the hospital in less pain than I entered. I was working out and lifting weights fine by month 3. I am at month 5 and I am back to doing Muay Thai. This guy is trying to make money for his business by badmouthing legitimate surgical options.
@@Andre-tl7gy Great. Lets see how long till you need another surgery or pain management visit...
@@aradeukmedjian5957 maybe I do. it would still be worth it. The whole procedure was relatively painless and I have had the most pain-free 5 months I've had in 7 years I haven't been this athletically capable in as much time as well. My surgeon does routine imaging and I have zero device migration.
is his procedure covered by insurance? NO! i spoke with one spine surgeon about it as i had 3 herniated lumbar discs. he told me the failure rate on these procedures was 50% so insurance companies stopped paying for them. i am 3 weeks out from an L3,L4,L5 laminectomy and microdiscectomy. i was walking the next day with out pain for the first time in 5 years. i had knee pain and right leg pain. i have to learn how to walk properly again, but damn me it was worth it! God bless all that read this and i pray you find you answer!
Wait until your laminectomy fails. Its called "failed back syndrome". It happens after laminectomy or discectomy. There is a reason the laser is far better, no bone or ligament removal. Guess money was more important to you than your health. You should learn the truth and not buy into some BS lies your surgeon told you to get you under his knife. Next your surgeon will be recommending spinal fusion for you $$$$$$$
@@DeukSpineInstitute completely covered by insurance
@@DeukSpineInstitute i bet laser couldn't take care of the arthritis in the forimina of l4-l5
Deuk laser disc repair can treat arthritis in the neuroforamen
@@aradeukmedjian5957 RIGHT! LOL!
You say anterior approach is bad, but with posterior, you end up cutting through a lot of muscles, there are plenty of people that have had good success with ADR
the posterior approach is not supposed to cut muscle, it gets peeled off the spine and put back. anterior approach actually cuts abdominal muscles
Nice information sir❤❤
thank you
Please help me, with advice but I am in South Africa.
Here where I live, instead of curing myself, they have made me semi-paralyzed, I need help
I had m6-l in London. Still hike few times a week and gym 5 days a week. (No deadlifts or squats ect but that’s just my choice…). BMW’s can fail in one week, rockets can blow up on take off. Shit happens. More implants more failures hence m6 bad reputation. It can take 3 times torque of human disc, 2400kg downward and 1200kg sideways pressure.
Do you have this in India?
No sorry only Florida now
Here's what I know from doing a modicum of research: 1) Only 2% of artificial discs pop out. I don't know what the stats are on misalignment, either an AD that has been put in wrong or has shifted over time. Then there is the issue of size mismatch. The size of an AD is not custom made pursuant to patient size requirements. 2) This from Dr. Richard Guyer (Texas Spine Institute), the surgeon who fused Tiger Woods: only 40% of patients who have received an artificial spinal disc are pain free post-surgery. He used a baseball analogy: "They hit a home run." So, that leaves 60% who remain in pain after a major surgery where complications can and do occur. Then there are post-surgical issues that can arise years later. Two such complications come to mind but there are plenty more: metallosis and spinal arthritis. 3) Only two LUMBAR artificial disc devices are FDA approved, the ProDisc-L and Active L. Both are ball and socket type devices. There is nothing in the human spine resembling a ball and socket joint, so why use this type of construction for an artificial disc? It makes no sense. The best ADR device is the European LP-ESP device, in my opinion, and it is not a ball and socket device but a visco-elastic device not available in the US. Many Americans, who prefer an AD over a fusion will, after doing their homework, choose the LP-ESP device. But since it is not available in the US they go there. I would too.
Thanks John but there is no need for artificial discs at all anymore. They are old technology and harmful and unnecessary. Endoscopic Deuk laser disc repair is now the best treatment available.
@@aradeukmedjian5957 Tony Mork MD, in Newport Beach, CA., is an endoscopic laser neurosurgeon who does the same procedure, or is it the same procedure? I'm confused. Is what you do replicated by others in the US? Is the Deuk endoscopic laser procedure for herniated discs the same as what other neuro and ortho surgeons perform, or is yours a protected intellectual property that only you and your team perform? What I'm getting at is travel time and distance. You're in Florida. He's 90 minutes away from where I live. But if he's not performing the same Deuk endoscopic laser procedure, then Florida is where I need to be. Isn't it the same debridement procedure for a herniated disc that gets performed regardless of the neurosurgeon who uses an endoscopic laser?
@@KingAeetes Dr. Mork performs a different kind of endoscopic surgery. His results are not the same. Deuk Laser Disc Repair has the best results that last and it is very safe.
2 level lp-esp here, best disc in the world! A laser isn't going to fix a destroyed disc, I can't believe people still listen to this stuff!
@@brians2328 czcams.com/video/sDWm9ksx3hc/video.html
M6-C has better success than fusion, over 100,000 in the study. M6-C roughly 87% and fusion only 64% success rate. I work with someone who has the MOBI and it worked great for him. My gf got fusion and she doesnt have same range of motion and has residual pain.
Well said Dr
Inversion therapy, chiro, electroacupuncture, ginger snake moxa, blood cupping are safe and best without no adverse reactions
Not anatomically correct poor design. Problem with fusion is it has to be spot on. Repair if possible. Where are located will refer
thanks we are in melbourne fl
I dont know anybody personally . The only person I know of is a man named Eddie Bravo who is a super athlette top Ju Jitsu competitor who I believ had a desicated disc , not herniated and supposedly it worked AND his sport puts insane pressure of spine , neck and body in general . I have bone on bone L5- S1 abd seruioulsy disbaled . I also have ruptures and 6 bulging discs from serious rear end in a still car by truck. NEVER FELT PAIN despite having the bottom disc bone on bone. I wonder if its better or worse out come when their is no disc , completely dessicated and bone on bone and if its something not just the tech but you need a super surgeon .
I am here because It sounded too good to be true . I seruoulsy dont think Eddie is lying as he has no reason too and he would be fucked considering his life revolves around his neck and spine not only working but working extremely well to do a sport that is all about choking and apply pressure to joints and body . Some articial disc sounds better then just bolting shit together or cuting up the bone and moving it around and doing grafting plus a bunch of hardware , but apparently not .
IS THERE ANY SCENARIO where they are or can be good or better then other options . ALL BACK SURGERURIES when I speak with people who have had them it is around 70-80% of people who tell me it was a major thing and either didnt help , made things worse and or that it created new problems on discs above that then needed operation and they ended up in perpetual operations to fix the one the fix applied pressure to or messed up aligment or WHATEVER seems to happen . I have had back surgeons I am friendly with tell me avoid it , I have had a few surgical assistants say the same thing . Back surgeries dont have the best reputation . NOT !! Like hip replacement whic EVERYBODY I HAVE EVER SPOKEN to who had one is SUPER HAPPY!!! Many were walking nearly right away and I met a guiy HIKING on like ADVANCED TRAIL that was steep , long and terrain , randomly bullshitting and he had his hip done less the 2 weeks eaarlier , he wasnt running up it but NO WAY I COULD TELL and most folk would struggle to do this trail . THEN he says its his second one in not that long.
I see people get then who are REALLY MESSED UP , terrible pain and its like magic and the rehab is hardly anything . Some people fell better then when their hip was good , supposedly they actually get the legs closer in length and balanced then how your born if one leg is shorter or body symmetry is off and it feels and performas great . I know SO MANY HIP REPLACEMENT PEOPLE and apparently lots of good surgeons , the more surgeries done the better a surgeon gets generally ,up to a point Im sure and natural talent , love of the job /ego in wanting to be the best , youngish with good hands and crisp brain but the surgeopn who has done more procedures usually works out to do them best or at least its a good sign before you look into other metrics .
But BACK , good lord its a scary thing trying to get educated and NOBODY , at least me wants to go litely into something , particularly something new and innovated which means no tons of long term data on the different proprietary hardware that supposedly evolevs quicik as well as a long enough period time and sample group. The first hip replacement I heard about was like 45 years ago on another kid who had one small short leg birth defect that wore it out and Im sure it wasnt new. He said it was kinda new and they didnt last that long and would have to get new ones as he aged but he didnt have to wear an erector set on his leg anymore or a frankenstien shoe and had a limp but not the worst and did home iprovements and construction so Ive always been HIP to them . Knee replacements I have see people struggle with with rehab and end results , albeit in their 60s . But I have had pectoral muscle complete tear with are tendons and ligaments re attached and that is brutal to rehab and takes a year before yopu know if it relly worked , hurts like hell for a long while in sling, sleeping in chairs and then slow application of resistance training that hurts and your weak . I was able eventually to do 100 consecutive push ups in a row deep into my 40s that I never had done when younger with all the rehab jso a major success but KNEE REPLACEMENT is similar in that theyt cut all the connective tissue as though you had a major injury that tore then and re attcahe them which is a serious thing , my mom had then and she was fit but it wasnt awesome but I dont know that her surgeon was the shit of which I always wonder , everybody wants the best but everybody cant get him or her or dont know .
I am almost afraid to do all the research , including this to find out something I thought was cutting edge and possibly less horrific then surgeries for my particular thing I had watched be done , saw the graphics and explanations as well as followed some people who had them , and now it seems complete BS of which is also not helpful because it makes you lose faith in surgeons , medical profession and medical tech companies . FUCKING UP SOMEBODIES SPINE FOR MONEY IF YOU KNOW STTS ARE NOT GOOD AND EXPERIENCE TELLS YOU SO ,, you need to be by definition EVIL , maybe you werent and corrupted but still somewhere you have to have greater potential for evil if thats your way to get richer . Spme , neck and back pain is something you woukld only wish on the most awful people , its a proper MF when bad and nearly ruins hyour life or severly changes it and chronic bad pain , leg muscle pain, wasting and cramping etc is constant and TIRING and DEFEATING and to cause or add to that your crossing into mengele territory .
Hearing this is a bummer . Im gonna check other sources but my gut tells me this is true or lots of truth to it. Only a surgeon who lacked skills to do a procedure that makes money would talk it down so much and I dont know this surgeopn but benefit of doubt he has been around and apparently has done them. He does say they are more difficult along more insult to the body but I still wonder if there is different outcome from different paractioners as wellas the different hardware and if one is better for different situations or people and surgeons get married to a brand for money reasons and just use them when another one might work .
Also not much explanation on why they fail so bad in regards to the concept , procedure and how the physica works or doesnt work , how they shift or move and why etc. Something about using them for just a rupture seem over kill and I still wonder if you have no disc let if thst would be different for any reason or the work on some levels of spine or particular veterbra and not others . More detail beyond I just feel worse and had then out etc wold be nice. At what point does the AMA , NIH , and mediacla associations and govt say NO DEAL if they are so bad?
Thank you for sharing your concerns. My advice, look into a procedure called deuk laser disc repair. It works and lasts.
Interesting you say no complications with lazer surgery that's nit true there's complications with all complications & how does the disc get its high back after lazer surgery ?
Reply please.
In concurrence
Some artificial discs work with a nuylon ball
Insert. Are people cheep old barby dolls or exercyst dolls.
There is no natural movement restrictiion in its desighn
Its crazy! Do humans turn their head 360 degrees??
Dr. I was thinking on disk replacement but thanks God I found you video 😃.
My problem is Disc Desiccation L4 L5, any advise for this problem?
Blessings
Hmm, no response. Interesting.
Can hardly wait, to be relieved of my pain I'm a longshore women, injured on the job 3 years ago, my pain is never ending, no matter what treatments I've done I'm exhausted from the pain! There is No one out here in California, or anywhere that does surgery not using rods plates cages screws, it seems all they been taught! So sad ! Your name is spreading like wild fire, down at the Port,of LA/LB im sharing with as many people as I can, being I just found out, about you already 4 of us want to fly back east, to have our issues resolved, by Deuk Spine Laser! Ty for your honesty a rare gift these days!
thank you. We are very excited to share our advanced pain treatments with everyone so they can get out of back or neck pain.
Do you have branch in Dubai my brother is suffering from L5s1 ruptured disc , can it be removed by laser ,does it have any sid effect ,will he be back to normal I am curious
No side effects or complications with laser. Normal in 1 day. no branch in Dubai only Orlando
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I have migraines too. This was done 2016 7 years oh pain
Hi doc how can I call or communicate with you?
Thanks for commenting. What would you like to discuss.
@@aradeukmedjian5957 Hi Doc, I have herniated disc’s c5-6-7, I have numbness and weakness and ears nose and now I have thighs pain and weakness. Is that operation will solve the problem?
CHIROPRACTOR MESSED ME UP BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD
How much?. I need one, in the middle.. I'm soo weakness.. I need help
I’ve had 3 neck surgeries. I have 2 rods and 2 plates. I’m in a lot of pain. And surgeon cut my veritable artery. And nerve damage where my feet burn so bad. I have to take 5 20 mg oxicondone and 3400 mg gabenpentine. Daily. I need help
OMG. 😢 I hope others will read your post and consider laser before anything more invasive. That can always be Plan B.
Lpesp and its cervical counterpart
I really need your take on my serious case!!
I’ve had 10 outpatient surgeries
3 major neck surgeries
C2,3,4,5,6 fusion & Mobi c
With severe suprascapular pain no use of left arm
It hurts to bad to even talk!!
Vocal cord damage
High pressure in my head!!
I need help!!
I’m hurting so bad for 2!years! I have failed neck surgery!
I’m ready to go to sleep and not wake!
I’m living on hydrocodone 325-10
I can’t walk around im suffering!
I'm so sorry to hear. Thank you for sharing. I hope you've been helped
I pray that your pain and discomfort be relieved. I can hear it in your words. All the very best to you.
Why Dr Duke is silent to this agony?
Um, the data does not favor this quack.
Hi, I live in Orlando and had a microdiscectomy at L4/5 back in March 2022. Unfortunately, I had another injury at the same disc back in October. Tore a pice off that is impinging on nerves in my back. Have numbness in both feet and sciatic nerve pain on my right leg. Saw my original surgeon and a second surgeon and both recommended a fusion. Scares the hell out of me. Laser surgery could be an option? Thanks
Research disk replacement in Germany with lp-esp disc.. Best in the world, 2 levels speaking here first hand!
ESP, is a superior implant . I stayed in the US, and had an activL implanted. My Insurance covered all but 2k of the cost. US insurance is slowly approving ADR. Just make sure you find an excellent surgeon.
How to contact you please
What would be the options for lower back spondylolisthesis?
It is the laser surgery. The pain from spondylolisthesis is due to the annular tear and it gets repaired with the laser. Leg symptoms come from stenosis and this is also treated with laser. No need for fusion.
Question if you’re back requires surgery on lower spine 4 levels and laser surgery would not work. Fusion surgery was the only option all the hardware to stabilize due to deterioration. This surgery was performed 10 years ago. Today laser surgery would work because of the advancements.
@@CharlesAho-ht2cjyou are talking about which laser surgery
hi is their anyone in Australia who has this method please let me know
Only in Florida. Spine Surgeons are brainwashed to do metal based surgery and it pays them too well. This is better for the patient
Dr what do you think about tarlov cyst
TC dont cause any symptoms. Leave them alone
I had surgery on my tarlov cyst my pain went away .
You right most don’t cause pain . Less then 1% of all tarlov cyst cause pain .
@@joellabrie-ki9bk Not from treating the tarlov cyst.Probably they burned the medial branck of the dorsal ramus
They open the cyst drain it . Then put Fibrin glue in it. Some dr put your owe fat. They also have to wrap the cyst . There only 3 or 4 dr In the US will do surgery on them .
Hi you can do something for Ankylosis spondylitis with surgery.Thanks.
Hello, only if there is a fracture
How about when you have spine rubbing each other like the L5/S1 and have no cushion?
Deuk laser disc repair is still the best treatment
@@aradeukmedjian5957 Even when the disc is not present? What takes place of the disc in this case?
@@arielrodriguez6980
Pain doesn’t come from “no disc” left. It always comes from annular tear
@@aradeukmedjian5957 do you have a video specifically on how the Deuk surgery is performed?
@@arielrodriguez6980 see link below
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Cherry-picking comments from one online post to make a point in your favor, presenting your opinion as fact without any proof, and denigrating one particular procedure while pushing your services as superior is the real scam here…
Tears are coming to my eyes as you slander my apocalyptic message.😂
Hello, I really enjoy your videos. I injured my L5/S1 disc roughly 10 years ago and after different treatments and PT ended up having a microdiscectomy and microlaminectomy. I felt great for a decade. A few months ago, I reinjured it and scans show that I have less than 50% of my disc remaining and it is herniated (sciatica and all that pain). Are there any treatments that can increase my disc height to a healthy size (on top of fixing the herniation)?
The disc height is not important and loss of height doesn’t cause any symptoms. The only way to increase height is an implant and they are unnecessary and don’t help
Look into Deuk laser disc repair
Lp esp trust no other
This type of denigration of one approach, over a preferred one - by the surgeon, does not pass my smell test, for very obvious reasons.
I doubt that I will see a reply, but if I do, please answer these questions. What if ADR is the only alternative to a 4 level fusion, which was clearly stated as undesirable? Lastly, I am hearing nothing about cleaning up the boney tissue around the joints. Does laser handle that as well? I'll wait. Thank you.
ADR and fusion are outdated, dangerous and unnecessary procedures that help enrich the implant industry, hospitals and spine surgeons recommending these invasive procedures. Deuk Laser Disc Repair is the future of all degenerative spine procedures for symptomatic disc injuries. Lasers can melt steel and they remove boney tissue just fine.
Maybe you should do a more thorough investigation before you formulate a "half-baked" misguided stance on something new to you.
Funny enough, i had this surgery 21 days ago. I felt tightness in my shoulders but all of my previous pain was gone. By week two I was walking 3 miles a day and felt incredible. I have worked in the Medical Device business for years. The manufacturers cannot create deals with surgeons. The amount of oversight between manufacturers and Doctors is incredible nowadays.
With all due respect, this Doctor is sharing a strongly biased opinion about a procedure that he would rather get you to do. He is focusing on the pain and fear parts rather than sharing the patient anatomy or information that he has no clear way of providing an accurate perspective on. Imagine a Doctor who does an exam but doesn’t have any patient information beyond an opinion that is posted on Facebook. You wouldn’t want that Doctor to treat you with limited information. That is the same behavior he is presenting here. Limited information and fear tactics.
Funny how this post provides “limited information” and tries to get the reader to “fear” the doctor in the video. This is a great example of what we call hypocrisy and narcissism. A narcissist doesn’t even know how hypocritical they are being and tend to “put themselves above others”. Thanks @devinS4VOY for teaching our viewers about hypocrisy and narcissism with your post.
Is there anyone else doing this surgery as I live in Washington state ?
Only in Melbourne, FL
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Such an informative video. 👍👌😃
Why don't they do this worldwide?
Why don't you expand into Australia?
He mentioned he bought it over from Korea and Germany do they do this in those countries? Or is Melbourne Florida the only place in the world this is done as that is a great shame if true for the wider community.
Why not worldwide franchise if.thats the case and start training thounds more surgeons worldwide in how to do this awesome procedure you do.
@@Frankincense_ This "laser disc repair" is available in most countries, its commonly called "laser discectomy". Check with any orthopedic/spine specialist in your country.
@@premiersolutions2820 there is only one place for deuk laser disc repair and it is not a discectomy
7:19 awesome reaction 😂😂😂
i'm getting a mass effect from my disc between c3-c4 pushing into my spinal cord. From what I've researched this WOULD be a good option using a mobie C disc. Thoughts? My doctor was against fusing and lapriscopy due to the disc bulging into my spinal cord.
Why settle for bad spine surgery when you can get the best surgery available, Deuk laser disc repair?
@@aradeukmedjian5957 I called today and they said you guys still do artificial discs for special situations. Is this not true anymore. And thank you for getting back
@@christianoliver2949 Artificial discs are Unnatural, dangerous, unnecessary and have poor results with high complication rates. Deuk Laser Disc Repair is the safest and least invasive surgery in the world to fix a herniated disc. I would not recommend an artificial disc.
Artificial disc is superior but you have to actually have a skilled surgeon to do it. You can’t just go to any surgeon. Fusions are easy. ADR is not, placement, size, patient selection is crucial. This guy isn’t skilled enough to do so. Not to mention, ADR is an easier recovery than fusion. This guy probably tells patients micro discectomy’s last a lifetime
You are welcome to your own opinion. Clearly you didn’t understand the video.
@@aradeukmedjian5957 I understand that he’s bashing a superior technology that he’s not skilled enough to master to try to sell more micro discectomy’s with a laser. Literally the highest rate of failure operation wise. Go for it. Look at all the horror stories with this guy
Ciarlatan dipende da chi neochirurgo effettua l intervento e come viene posizionato il disco
I am two weeks out exactly from ACDR at C5-6 & C6-7 and my surgeon told me I would have up and down days for the next few weeks. This was my seventh overall spine procedure since 1997. Your banging on against disc replacement and fusion as you referred to a cage in addition to artificial discs saying the surgeons are in bed with the medical companies selling the hardware. Understandable because your trying to sell your laser surgery which doesn't open up the disc space which in all likelihood caused the ruptured disc. Your selling a treatment that will eventually either need to be performed again or a discectomy and fusion or artificial disc to widen the disc space. We as back pain/degenerate disc disease patients for the most part know what the deal is and nothing is guaranteed especially in spine surgery!! My first three spine surgeries happened in the late nineties when I was nineteen & twenty years old. I didn't have another for seventeen years and the way they do things nowadays compared to the late nineties the latter is now considered archaic!. I didn't know really what to expect as my cervical disc arthroplasty two weeks ago was an absolute godsend. I've only known archaic surgical methods that are not used anymore and spinal fusions. My normal orthopedic surgeon wasn't able to get me in in the time frame necessary and there was only one other option where I live that my regular orthopedic surgeon and my pain specialist were ok with. It turned out that the orthopedic surgeon they sent me to moved mountains and schedules to get me into the last surgical slot of the year. Within twelve hours of waking up from surgery I was 85% pain free in the neck and left arm and shoulder. In addition some weakness in my legs that I thought was due to failed lumbar surgery was really in my neck and that cleared up too. I would be 100% off of narcotic pain medication if it were not for the archaic three failed surgeries in 1997 & 1998. The fill in orthopedic surgeon did his fellowship at Harvard and gave me what no other surgeon has been able to do and that was to perform a surgery where the results were immediate and the most painful thing of any of it was the bloody foley catheter. Just because you cherry picked some failures on Facebook doesn't make the whole industry a scam. Pretty irresponsible if you ask me but it makes sense I get it your selling a different method is all. One that is a quick fix and doesn't offer any longevity now does it?
Deuk Laser Disc Repair uses no metal, no bleeding, no postoperative pain meds, no hospitalization, is a 1 hour outpatient surgery that naturally repairs the damaged disc. It has been performed for 16 years and NONE of the patients need another surgery. Sorry you have had SEVEN spine surgeries but that is what happens when you get the wrong surgery done. Very common problem I see all the time. The patients at Deuk Spine Institute have only one surgery done because we perform the surgery the right way the first time. I am so sorry to disappoint you.
@@aradeukmedjian5957 You didn't disappoint me doctor I was dealt a bad hand genetically having Ehlers Danlos. My L5-S1 exploded quite literally. I was nineteen years old and the year was 1997. I find your laser surgery treatment quite fascinating my question about it though is how do you treat the disc space if there is narrowing that caused the ruptured? As in my first comment I am new to neck surgery everything has been lower lumbar for me. My surgeon who did my two level cervical disc arthroplasty did an amazing job I'm 100% pain free in regards to the arm, hand, and horrific shoulder pain I was having it's completely gone. Fernando Villamil MD who practices half of his time in Tulsa, Oklahoma and his native Puerto Rico where he's actually on the Puerto Rican version of "The Doctors" there. I'll never be fixed or pain free due to the archaic work that was done on my L5-S1 in 1997 & 1998. I remember they wanted me to be a guinea pig for the ALIF back then and I was a young terrified teenager who had no guidance. The smartest thing I have done was have a spinal cord stimulator implanted. That was a game changer I actually just had my IPG replaced with Abbott's new Proclaim Plus which is an amazing upgrade.
@@nuttyirishman
It turns out we dont need to "refill" the disc space, ever. Thousands of discs I have treated with the DLDR over the last 16 years with the "no jelly left", "bone-on-bone" situation before and after the laser surgery. All of the discs were pain free after DLDR, none have been refilled. Lessons in life. If it makes you feel better, I was taught the same thing that a new spacer was needed. I found this to be blatantly untrue and unnecessary.
@@aradeukmedjian5957 that is absolutely amazing Doctor make no mistake this is your domain/wheelhouse and I do find this very fascinating. It is also something that I would very much be interested in. I of course have degenerative disc disease and have fusions at L5-S1 and L4-L5. My last lumbar fusion was done in 2018 and L3-L4 is bound to go tits up eventually. I am extremely passionate and interested in this subject because it has consumed my life and I have lived in pain from the archaic surgical methods done on L5-S1 in 1997 & 1998 that involved three seperate and failed surgeries. I was age 19 & 20 and am about to turn 46. I only found out the reason behind my body having such major issues at such a young age about five years ago when I was Dx'd with Ehlers-Danlos. Strange as it sounds but it was a comfort to find out after twenty-one years of wondering. I am beyond blessed to have a first rate team of doctors from my PCP who actually is an Ehlers Danlos specialist, a pain doctor who's has the most insanely impressive resume and treats Ehlers-Danlos, and two first rate orthopedic surgeons. My biggest thing about the artificial disc replacement was something I've never known upon waking up in the PACU. I woke up and all of the symptoms related to the c-spine were poof gone. I had the natural pain in my neck for thirty or so hours and the extra narcotic pain meds given for the surgery were dc'd and I only needed my prn pain meds and ER meds (Belbuca which is astonishingly fantastic) for my low back pain. I know a great many orthopedic surgeons where I live and I play golf with my lumbar orthopedic surgeon. I am going to ring him up tomorrow to inquire about what he knows about your laser procedure. I'm not aware of any orthopedic surgeons in Tulsa that do it. Lol I don't know em all but I find your video and your explanations and education you've given me on it fascinating. I just know that waking up from a fusion blows bigstyle and waking up from artificial disc replacement was the easiest and most pain free.
@@aradeukmedjian5957 what do you do when there is both loss of disk height and facet hypertrophy causing stenosis of the neural canal (both in AP and cranio caudal dimensions)? Can you decompress the canal and remove bone spurs, going right through the disk as shown on the video?
Artificial disc replacement is for degenerative disc disease, where the only other option is disc fusion, which is much worse. The pain after getting artificial discs is from the tendons being stretched. From almost no disc left to a full disc it’s essentially getting a sprain. Physical Therapy after the surgery is normal for this reason. You are using people who got the surgery unnecessarily for reasons other than degenerative disc disease and not explaining why the normal pain is there after is misleading.
I guess you know more than an experienced neurosurgeon
I have friends who had disk replacement surgery and are doing well without pain.
My L5-S1 is collapsed and will had disk replacement surgery. The artifice disk works well on the right patient
@@mikeflanders2173 I dont disagree that an artificial disc may give pain relief in some instances but why have a metal disc when you dont need any metal at all?
First of all, doctor you're very irritating to me.
As person that has one artificial disk and one fusion.
That was done 8 years ago after 10 years of migraines and none functional arms. People in our position are depressed in pain and have hard lives. We don't need you to pile on making us feel even worse for the decisions we made. Which were the best or possibly the only for us at the time. Every person's case is different with different needs. Your not the fix all believe that!
Liar. "Annoying" pain is not "horrible" pain. I am blocking you.
Funny how they had numerous lawsuits while claiming scam
I missed the lawsuit part. Who had the lawsuits?
@@aradeukmedjian5957 Google it
2 level lp-esp in the house! When a disc is finished no "lasers" are going to fix it! 🤣🤣 if you people believe this, I feel sorry for you.
Laser can reduce the bulge
We have 1,600 patients cured of their back pain or neck pain that would disagree with you
@@jpk2400 czcams.com/video/sDWm9ksx3hc/video.html
ESP has high rates of Osteolysis
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From his content alone....this doc isnt ethically sound. The kind of doctor you shouldnt see. Flawed character.
From your content alone we now know you are dishonest, unintelligent, judgmental, narcissistic, uneducated, opinionated, deceitful, jealous and just plain an a$$hole. Oh and triggered LOL
Well you reached your goal to make people feel bad about themselves for making the decisions in the past that they thought we're the best for them at the time. Now you're making them have depression.on top of their physical pains and pain killer addictions. All cases have unique needs and your method may work for one person but believe it or not some are better served by other procedures or a combination of techniques. Stop beating your solo drum!
Our techniques work for back pain or sciatica. Sorry you have such deep regrets for what you have done in the past. Our goal is to make people aware there are better options now available for their pain.
@DeukSpineInstitute You absolutely missed the point again. By the way myself I feel better than I have in 20 years, never depressed and never had I needed pain pills.. I went to Germany and had artificial disk and a cage fusion. Best thing I ever did. Rid myself of migraines, got my strength back in my arms. There is no denying that your methods are self-serving. So obvious!
We have see HUNDREDS of patients at Deuk Spine Institute that went to Germany and had artificial disc or cage fusion surgery and they are in horrific pain every day of their lives, they have failed surgeries, adjacent segment disease, the discs above or below are now degenerating. These Germany fusion and artificial disc patients require opioid painkillers, injections, unending therapy and mostly need more spine surgery. So many of these post artificial disc or fusion patients from Germany tell us they regret going to Germany for these highly invasive surgeries.
I think Bill Zeitzmann, you are not even a real patient. I think you are here marketing for perhaps a German surgical tourism company trying to get people to go to Germany to get unnecessary and invasive spine procedures. I dont think you are a real patient. You are a fraud. @@billzeitzmann1585
I am about 7 weeks out from a 3 stage acdf. At this point I regret having the surgery. I was in mild to moderate pain before and now I am in severe pain and I can't sleep. My legs are swollen. I am not doing well.
Please let your surgeon know asap as you may be having a serious complication. If you still have neck pain, get a new mri scan and use the link below. It is free and virtual consultation.
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